Finally a young man that has learned how to install cam bearings I'm 70 years young and have been doing this for years and years working in GM dealers generally if you center the bearing in the the journal equal distance from front to back the oil hole will be centered but check it any way also a light shining down the main bearing hole and a mirror in the cam bearing you can see if you are center nice to see that you go from end to end to get the length of the broom stick to help center the bearing using the length of the tool and cone to help you!!! My hat off to you young man yes lock tight help's as the no. 2 bearing has a tendency to back out towards the back of the block on the LS Motors!!! PS turn your hat around and put the cam in right!! Good to see that you can turn the cam by hand good job!!!👍👍👍
Thank you for your comment Jon. Yeah Im learning as I go. Im a DIY guy and have aspirations of going fast and since I don't have the largest budget I have to do things myself to save some cash. I have learned all kinds of stuff along the way.
Wow I had forgotten all about the lock tight trick, the first time I seen it done was around 1971 from an old machinest that built a lot of engines for the local phone company maintenance yard in Irwindale.
Ill be doing this when I LS swap this Jeep. My cam bearings look ok but since the block is going to the machine shop for a cleaning I might as well get change them out. Thanks for sharing how its done!
Been working on GM products for decades. Confirming what your friend said, loc tite on the bearings is a good idea. It's not like your drenching it with the product. A little bit works great. Neat video cam bearings are not shown getting replaced a lot. Hope it fixes your oil pressure issue.
That’s what I use is lock blue on aluminum blocks an if u shine a light in the top main an shut the light off I know that it lined up an I also do the marker trick cool
just so you know if it happens again you can actually get the cam bearings with the larger holes its the upgraded bearing durabond is discontinuing the ch 23 the new part number is ch25
Loctite seems like a great idea man !! Im digging it bro . Definitely dont think it can hurt anything ! Strong work ! Man i like that saying roach the bearings 😂 I usually say the bearings shit the bed 😅 to each is own lmfao
Is there any kind of chamfer on the bore or on the new bearing suggesting that it can only be driven in from one side? I have seen other guys on TH-cam use green loc-tire which they said was supposed to be some permanent type of glue.
They are the same on both sides so you can drive them in form whatever direction you want I would imagine. Good question tho. I had to go look to double check.
I don't have a link but its the gold looking one and I think it was form Ebay Not sure why I picked it but if you get one just get an LS specific tool and you'll be good to go. Take your time and make sure the too is square before you smack it each time. You'll get it.
Well, other than installing the camshaft backwards, the job looked pretty good.. Did you mark your pick wrong or was the bearing not pressed in far enough on #5? It looked shallow and I thought you were going to discuss why it didn't go in to your mark because I could tell in your voice that you were either surprised that it didn't go in to the mark or that you knew why it didn't and was trying to decide if you were going to say why.. And finally, just a tip to add to your arsenal, green loctite is designed for use on pressed sleeves, races, bearings, so if you can find some of that, it's probably technically the correct formula. what you used will work fine..
I marked the pick by putting it in a bearing when it was out of the motor. When I installed the first one I kept checking to see why it didn't go all the way to the mark but I think the opening in the block is not as deep as I thought and the pick I used was big. The pick stoped at the same spot in each hole so the mark I made on the pick was just deeper than what it ended up being when installed if that makes sense. If one was wrong it would have only gone in the thickness of the bearing itself witch would have been evident. You were really paying attention man. Thanks for watching and for the good question. Ill look for the green. I bet I can get some at Mc Fad and Dales.
I just got some cam bearings from Texas speed and performance. Was supposed to be CH-23 but they sent me CH-25 an on the invoice it said durabond no longer makes the CH-23 SO idk man . If texas speed says so I'm going to go with it cause I'm really green to ls
The whole ‘install cam bearings dry’ thing may be good advice when dealing with cast iron blocks. But on an aluminum block, this is a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD IDEA!!!! The aluminum is VERY soft, and will gall and build up on the back side of the bearing while it is being driven in. This will cause the bearing to go in crooked as well as potentially pinch the bearing down, either of which will cause cam binding. Worse yet, it will gouge the living crap out of the cam bearing bores, which will require line boring and oversized bearings. Save the dry installation for iron blocks.
@@Burndown yes I seen that wen the camera angle changed I realized they had space on each side but the way u did it with the pick to make sure it was centered with the oil galley is the best way forsure
@@melvinrawlings1457 This was the first time I ever put bearings in a motor I think. I start with the middle bearing so if I don’t in this video then I have no idea why not. I have done a few motors since and then loaned out the tool to a guy and it was never returned🤣
@@Burndown I giggled too .😉 My 13 year old said something last week that tickled me. His brother asked if he likes boost and he says, oh the feeling of all of my organs touching my spine 🤣
Sir, two things number one putting Loctite on the back of cam bearings will impede the transfer of heat to the block which is not good number 2 you're not supposed to touch the Babbitt of the bearings with your bare fingers just throwing it out there for you!
Finally a young man that has learned how to install cam bearings I'm 70 years young and have been doing this for years and years working in GM dealers generally if you center the bearing in the the journal equal distance from front to back the oil hole will be centered but check it any way also a light shining down the main bearing hole and a mirror in the cam bearing you can see if you are center nice to see that you go from end to end to get the length of the broom stick to help center the bearing using the length of the tool and cone to help you!!! My hat off to you young man yes lock tight help's as the no. 2 bearing has a tendency to back out towards the back of the block on the LS Motors!!!
PS turn your hat around and put the cam in right!! Good to see that you can turn the cam by hand good job!!!👍👍👍
Thank you for your comment Jon. Yeah Im learning as I go. Im a DIY guy and have aspirations of going fast and since I don't have the largest budget I have to do things myself to save some cash. I have learned all kinds of stuff along the way.
Man finally a video that broke it all the way down!!! Preciate it
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Wow I had forgotten all about the lock tight trick, the first time I seen it done was around 1971 from an old machinest that built a lot of engines for the local phone company maintenance yard in Irwindale.
Yeah well see if they stay put for a wile this time!
Ill be doing this when I LS swap this Jeep. My cam bearings look ok but since the block is going to the machine shop for a cleaning I might as well get change them out. Thanks for sharing how its done!
Thank you for watching. Its not that hard to do if you have the tool and some time.
That clip of your son is an epic gif 😂.... and Also the story of our lives!! 😂 🚗 🔥
All the emotion in a ten second clip. Riding high racing and then sad after his fake pass because he hurt his motor. 😆
Should have put ch25 bearings in it they are wider
"i hurt my motor"
same kid, same
Right in the feels. 🤣
Glad you did this. I’m going to be tackling mine today.
It’s not too bad. Getting it down to a block takes more work really.
Been working on GM products for decades. Confirming what your friend said, loc tite on the bearings is a good idea.
It's not like your drenching it with the product. A little bit works great.
Neat video cam bearings are not shown getting replaced a lot. Hope it fixes your oil pressure issue.
I did these a new oil pump and a new oil galley plug so I threw the kitchen sink at it 😆. I feel pretty good about it this time.
Good video. Thanks for taking the time to share!
Thank you for watching.
We learn something new from you every day 😎👍🏼
Some good and some bad im sure but if you enjoy watching and learn a little something it was worth the video! Thanks for watching!
Good info, thanks for learning us with your mishaps.🙏👍
Thats what im here for. 😆 At least when you do it you'll be like hey that's what happened to Dane.....
Brand Race Engines pins his LS bearings. Has video on his U-Tube channel. I have seen them spin especially in aluminum blocks.
That’s what I use is lock blue on aluminum blocks an if u shine a light in the top main an shut the light off I know that it lined up an I also do the marker trick cool
I used the pic to see if they were lined up properly. Th lock tight made sense and the marker was just so I didn’t get confused
just so you know if it happens again you can actually get the cam bearings with the larger holes its the upgraded bearing durabond is discontinuing the ch 23 the new part number is ch25
Thank you for that. Im sure it won't be my last rodeo with an LS and cam bearings.
Loctite seems like a great idea man !! Im digging it bro . Definitely dont think it can hurt anything ! Strong work ! Man i like that saying roach the bearings 😂 I usually say the bearings shit the bed 😅 to each is own lmfao
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Is there any kind of chamfer on the bore or on the new bearing suggesting that it can only be driven in from one side? I have seen other guys on TH-cam use green loc-tire which they said was supposed to be some permanent type of glue.
They are the same on both sides so you can drive them in form whatever direction you want I would imagine. Good question tho. I had to go look to double check.
Great video! Do you have a link to the tool? I tried installing mine last night with a universal tool and it was not going great
I don't have a link but its the gold looking one and I think it was form Ebay Not sure why I picked it but if you get one just get an LS specific tool and you'll be good to go. Take your time and make sure the too is square before you smack it each time. You'll get it.
U did a great job 👏 thanks for your video!!
Thanks for watching
All good brother..nice work
I appreciate it 🙌
Well, other than installing the camshaft backwards, the job looked pretty good.. Did you mark your pick wrong or was the bearing not pressed in far enough on #5? It looked shallow and I thought you were going to discuss why it didn't go in to your mark because I could tell in your voice that you were either surprised that it didn't go in to the mark or that you knew why it didn't and was trying to decide if you were going to say why.. And finally, just a tip to add to your arsenal, green loctite is designed for use on pressed sleeves, races, bearings, so if you can find some of that, it's probably technically the correct formula. what you used will work fine..
I marked the pick by putting it in a bearing when it was out of the motor. When I installed the first one I kept checking to see why it didn't go all the way to the mark but I think the opening in the block is not as deep as I thought and the pick I used was big. The pick stoped at the same spot in each hole so the mark I made on the pick was just deeper than what it ended up being when installed if that makes sense. If one was wrong it would have only gone in the thickness of the bearing itself witch would have been evident. You were really paying attention man. Thanks for watching and for the good question. Ill look for the green. I bet I can get some at Mc Fad and Dales.
On a 6.2 Block aren't you supposed to use the wider CH-25 part number instead of CH-23?
You can use either but I think the 23 is the go to now. Thats what I have been using any way.
I just got some cam bearings from Texas speed and performance. Was supposed to be CH-23 but they sent me CH-25 an on the invoice it said durabond no longer makes the CH-23 SO idk man . If texas speed says so I'm going to go with it cause I'm really green to ls
That first cam bear dosent look like it's all the way in shouldn't it be flush?
It centers on the oil galley opening
Do you have a link to the cam bearing tool? Thanks.
Ebay I don't have a link sorry. Its the gold looking one made in the USA
Thank you for this but I still don't know how to remove them because the video went crazy fast, and a car drove across it.
Removing is the same as installing just in reverse. Take out one of the end ones and work your way through the block knocking the old ones out
loctite has a special cylindrical retaining compound. Some Transmission shops swear by it when installing the bushings. RC/680.
Sounded like a good idea to me. Lube and lock all in one go.
"I hurt my motor" lol 😝
That clip is the best!
The whole ‘install cam bearings dry’ thing may be good advice when dealing with cast iron blocks. But on an aluminum block, this is a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD IDEA!!!! The aluminum is VERY soft, and will gall and build up on the back side of the bearing while it is being driven in. This will cause the bearing to go in crooked as well as potentially pinch the bearing down, either of which will cause cam binding. Worse yet, it will gouge the living crap out of the cam bearing bores, which will require line boring and oversized bearings. Save the dry installation for iron blocks.
Thanks for the tip. Sounds logical to me.
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Well here we are man 🤣
Good info thanks for video 😀
No problem 👍
Hahaha that’s awesome!!
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Oh never mind I see now they sit center and have room on both sides
The number 5 has more space on both sides than number 1. So you need to center them like you said.
@@Burndown yes I seen that wen the camera angle changed I realized they had space on each side but the way u did it with the pick to make sure it was centered with the oil galley is the best way forsure
It was hard as fuck to watch this video😂😂😂.
But did you die?
No I did not but it was just all over the place. And I would of worked inside out not outside in just food for thought
@@melvinrawlings1457 This was the first time I ever put bearings in a motor I think. I start with the middle bearing so if I don’t in this video then I have no idea why not. I have done a few motors since and then loaned out the tool to a guy and it was never returned🤣
Hahaha
I hurt my motor 😁🍺
I have had that on my phone for a long time and it always makes me smile. I figured I would share it here so you guys could laugh at it as well.
@@Burndown I giggled too .😉
My 13 year old said something last week that tickled me. His brother asked if he likes boost and he says, oh the feeling of all of my organs touching my spine 🤣
@@tilt213 Hahahaha thats awesome
Never go in dry boys!
Technically I did the first time but we won’t talk about that
@@Burndown lul heat of the moment haha it happens
Hey u realize that u put the cam in back wards lol
Please elaborate
Don’t give away all my tricks man! 😂
Yo dude. It’s in backwards!!!
Well it’s a speed secret so….
Sir, two things number one putting Loctite on the back of cam bearings will impede the transfer of heat to the block which is not good number 2 you're not supposed to touch the Babbitt of the bearings with your bare fingers just throwing it out there for you!
😬🤣. At least im not trying to get 300k out of it so well see how it goes. Thanks for the tip!
Oil will cool the bearings just fine. Id rather loc tite my bearings rather than have them come out again.