Hey everyone! This ECM rush certainly feels quite different depending on what your task is for the heist. In my case, I was in charge of pushing the guards (as the host), but the other heisters are doing completely unrelated things. If you would like to see the perspective of other players in this rush, here's Twits' PoV! th-cam.com/video/bMUb468SMzw/w-d-xo.html Maybe in a few days I'll be able to add links to other PoVs, if someone else got a recording. Stay tuned if you're interested!
Haha true! I've enjoying reading through Garrett's comments on the different heists, but I never actually thought about the fact that Breakin' Feds would technically be typing a comment about himself :D
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed and dislikes the random garage escape costing the stealth bonus! Big Oil day two is guaranteed to sound the alarm at a certain point but still keeps the stealth bonus as I recall. The only part of Breakin' Feds that I can't do reliably is soloing the beginning. If I get one of the downstairs laptops it can be really tricky to get up to the barricade in time given all the guards that can be in the way. After that I find the heist pretty easy, and at worst mildly annoying when the artifact is in evidence instead of the safe.
That's exactly right yup! On Big Oil you get a stealth bonus for DAY2 if you get far enough in stealth (15% total for both days). That's the way it should be for Breakin' Feds, because the current situation is just so sad whenever you get garage! As for the start, personally I think Training Room is quite easy (it's very similar to Server Room, if you think about it), and kitchen is similarly easy if the training room is empty. However, when you get the kitchen laptop, plus the training room full of people, then that can be a nightmare! Since you're fully relying on patrol RNG to make a path for you during that 30s window, which is never guaranteed :(
We’re still not the biggest fans of BF (no friends who play PD2) but seeing it get absolutely slaughtered like this is some nice catharsis for our few hours doing it on DSOD.
Haha glad you liked that! It's the only stealth heist where you can alert such a large number of enemies simultaneously, I wish we had more scenarios like this one :D
@@Marcmb Right? I also am so disappointed on how the ECM feedback no longer alerts the entire map. I'd laugh so hard alerting EVERYONE in a state of panic and confusion with ❗ all over the place before just leaving XD
Oh wow! Just 10 hours after you wrote this message, the devs actually went ahead and reverted the change. Now feedback is back to alerting everyone: you interact with it, and the ❗ icons appear all over the map again haha. Incredible that you called it so close to it happening :D
right off the bat with a hot take that BF is a decent heist... i lost my family to garrett /j no but seriously, ive had the worst experience with this heist when playing blind with my friends and it was torture, but it taught me a lot about stealth since it was one of the first few maps ive done in it! seeing all these ecm rushes really fuels the passion in me to keep trying and improving, it's always all so interesting! thank you for the amazing content (despite the community being on fire since U237 haha), keep it comin! ❤
Haha thanks Nadim! When learning the heist BLINDLY with friends it can be a nightmare that's for sure: it's never intentional, but the crew takes turns making mistakes along the learning process, and it can feel like you're getting nowhere! It can be a very punishing heist :D Glad you liked this rush, and good luck in your journey towards improvement and full mastery :D As for U237, that was indeed quite a literal fire... They're fixing things and moving in the right direction, but I really hope they will iron everything out in U238 :)
Marc spitting facts literally as soon as the video starts, damn. Breakin' Feds is one of my all-time favourite heists - I absolutely love how it tests the player's proficiency at stealth, and it's on the whole a short & fun heist with a nice objective structure. I genuinely can't understand how anyone could hate it. I usually shrug it off as either in-the-moment burst of frustration and that they don't actually mean it, or... I dunno, skill issue 😛 Great video, skillful rushes as always!
I hate to admit it, but I am terrible at stealth, godly terrible at it. It took me several hours to beat it. The even more frustrating thing is, I knew it wasn't too bad, but I just am so bad at stealth. I didn't struggle on any other heist nearly as much as I did that one. It really tested my patience 😂 I will say I believe I have since gotten a little bit better at stealth, but I still am not over how much pain it's caused me yet so I haven't replayed it since. 🤣
@@WildWombats Credit where it's due, Breakin' Feds is super tough. It's got a walking and easily triggerable fail condition, lots of guards in tight spaces that are frequently located right next to the objectives, and you have to carefully navigate there and back again (depending on the escape). But me personally, that's why I love it so much! It's like a rite of passage, the ultimate obstacle course. A frustrating one, but effective nevertheless.
Thank you JustAJAG, good to know you agree with me on that one! Absolutely, short and sweet is a perfect description for it. There aren't many stealth heists that fit with this description (plus this one has no need for extra loot either, unless you feel like doing that), so it's like a flawless, perfect heist. So so good, every single time! Glad you liked the rush, thank you very much :)
@@WildWombats The first completion can be quite tough yup, especially without a guide! As you say there's lots of things to learn and improve over time, so I'm sure if you gave it another go and replayed it, it would go much better! :D
The only part I cant do is the part where you cut the security box wires mostly because I either cant find them or that the guards have perfect coordination and always just camp the boxes
Hey Blob! I would say that's the easiest part, actually! I have another video with stealth tips for this heist, where I recommend simply taking out the 4 guards who patrol around those power boxes, on Garrett's side (3 guards + 1 from elevator). In this way, you don't have to worry about anyone, while doing all the objectives on that side :)
Haven't seen the video yet, but I agree with the first statement... also haven't read the title, now I'm hyped, I've been waiting this rush for so long :)
Perhaps perhaps! Back in the day when I did Entrapment (I was a new heister so I just wanted the achievement, not the challenge) I just did it on low difficulty to abuse the low number of guards :p
@@_Salok That's fair! Thinking about it, a safe way to do it regardless of difficulty is probably by abusing the drill exploit (so all vault area guards eventually get stuck if you wait long enough)...
Haha absolutely! Eventually I want to have ECM rushed all heists, even those deemed "impossible"! PAYDAY 3 is gonna be great for challenges too, I'm sure :D
So, while everyone else is agreeing with this map not being the worst stealth heist, what *is* the worst one, then? Are you going off pure stealth or can be stealthed?
Hey Elektross! Excellent question... As far as stealth goes, the worst one is probably one of the beginner ones. Bank Heist comes to mind, because it's just waiting for a 6 minute drill (minus 30% with skills). The simplicity in taking out the 4 guards is somewhat enjoyable though, so the true worst one is probably Nightclub: the server door objective is nice (looking for keycard / skilling into ECM Overdrive / bringing a saw), but then you wait for a 6-minute drill for the money, then wait 5 minutes for the escape to arrive. So bad!
I have an idea for a video and that is can you get away with killing Garret i know it sounds bad but i think its possible by opening the safe but not picking up the box (i dont know if garret notices that) then distracting him again 3 players with yakuza take the box and run to the exit it has to be the one with the c4 one player stays behind tho and as the 3 players get on the exit he kills garret and leaves so the heist ends idk if its possible to get the escape with the box within the time period of garett being distracted but hey thats just a theory a Game theory alright seriously try it
Hey Lukas! There is some people who have done a similar thing in the past yup! If you place a trip mine in Garrett's office while he's gone, and then quickly run to the escape, he will eventually walk into the trip mine and then you can trigger the escape. Kinda cool :D
Hey wolf! This heist is FREE for all players on the PC version. Are you perhaps on console? Unfortunately console heisters never got this heist I think, so it wouldn't be available for you...
Thanks Whatdo, glad you liked the rush! :) As for the shotgun, I recently uploaded my stealth build, with shotgun info. Find it here, timestamped! th-cam.com/video/UsSTQep5erU/w-d-xo.html
Hahah yup, kinda funny! Extremely extremely powerful in loud (especially combined with Bulletstorm just to abuse everything), and also incredibly useful in stealth, for a different (utility-based) reason :D
gonna be honest, 0:28 is exactly WHY it isn't a good stealth heist. if going out of your way to abuse the low number of guards is the first and most obvious solution, instead of just working around them, there's a problem
That's a very good point Sae! At this point it's mostly a matter of playstyle because the ability to invest 4 pagers there is so powerful, that it's almost foolish to not take it. Although, even for pacifist runs, there are still spots to hide, and multiple paths to avoid the guards, which makes it a fun heist still! I will admit however, that the central room on the right side is quite poorly designed: if a new heister makes the mistake of hiding there for even a moment, it's very likely that he will be locked in there for a long time, as the rotating guards make it impossible to leave for quite a while. But if you just avoid that trap spot, it's quite easy and smooth to move around the place! :D
Nuh uh _Captain Pengu_ we said, and only someday! It's gonna be your reward in the far future if you can ever behave like a true exemplary penguin! 🐧🐧🐧
Hey Hung! I do have plans to make a Firestarter guide yup, with tips for taking out gangsters in general, and also specific sections with tips for all hangar combinations. I don't know exactly when because I'm also working on other guides, and solo Infamy Farming, but definitely stay tuned!
@@fiyahquacker2835 well, i prefer doing on ds, but there're too many gangs, i only managed to steal the first hangar with 4 bags and then i got detected :))
@@Marcmb thank for making a guide on that heist, day 2 of the heist is also pretty hard as well because it has many guards. I will wait for your videos
I always hear people say breakin feds is the worst stealth heist cause you can't hide anywhere which makes it way too difficult... which I find surprising cause you can hide all over the place. I think all stealth only heists are super easy. The only stealth heist I'd consider difficult is big bank XD
That's exactly right Rudi! It has so many spots to hide, and so many options to allow a guard to walk past, while you take a different route. When you understand the heist, it becomes very easy :D
That's great to hear TheJ! Anyone who enjoys BFeds is always a great member of the community. If you haven't played in a while, make sure you stay up to date with the PAYDAY 3 news: currently announced for September 21st!
I would say both are good, personally! Although I don't really enjoy playing Alesso without trip mines: too many risky corners, especially on the top floor!
I actually think its one of the best stealth heists because its slow to play. makes me actually feel like im sneaking around. For farming and efficiency though i def see how it could be hated lol.
Hey Pioter! As *@Alt* has mentioned, Dockyard actually has very simple and predictable guard patrol patterns! My Dockyard guide has a brief 3-minute section explaining that patrolling, if you're interested!
Haha I've heard about that yup! Something about going out of bounds to trigger the garage explosion, which then allows you to kill Garrett without triggering his point of no return, and also I think bugging his hitbox. Very fancy stuff :D
I can respect your opinion on breakin' feds but from personal experience its utterly shit. Regardless of what i do, guards will always reappear and replace the guards I kill through the elevators, making all of that work to safely kill and take a pager useless. Honestly this type of BS in stealth is a "challenge" to some, but also a fucking nuisance and annoyance to casual stealth players just trying to do the career.
Hey Blue! This comes with map knowledge so it's fine, but as *@Idio* said only one backup guard will ever be sent (per side), so there's never a situation of never-ending guards: just 4, and then done! You can also take out cams as *@fiyah* suggests, but then you need to avoid the 1 backup guard, so I don't recommend it personally!
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Hey everyone! This ECM rush certainly feels quite different depending on what your task is for the heist. In my case, I was in charge of pushing the guards (as the host), but the other heisters are doing completely unrelated things. If you would like to see the perspective of other players in this rush, here's Twits' PoV! th-cam.com/video/bMUb468SMzw/w-d-xo.html
Maybe in a few days I'll be able to add links to other PoVs, if someone else got a recording. Stay tuned if you're interested!
hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@twitsTV Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pro! :D
*EDIT:* wait I thought this was your channel but it's mine, BWOAH!
@@Marcmb it can be mine if u want :)
@@twitsTV :shock Hmmm!
Garrett's lack of comment on the FBI file for breakin feds is even more hilarious with this in mind
Haha true! I've enjoying reading through Garrett's comments on the different heists, but I never actually thought about the fact that Breakin' Feds would technically be typing a comment about himself :D
because of helmut, BF is now one of my favorite heists! casual, quick, fun, easily rushable heist that people sleep on
Thanks Pho! Fully agree with every single word yup. Helmut the GOAT! Anyone who helps spread the word about Breakin' Feds is a real stealth heister :p
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed and dislikes the random garage escape costing the stealth bonus! Big Oil day two is guaranteed to sound the alarm at a certain point but still keeps the stealth bonus as I recall.
The only part of Breakin' Feds that I can't do reliably is soloing the beginning. If I get one of the downstairs laptops it can be really tricky to get up to the barricade in time given all the guards that can be in the way. After that I find the heist pretty easy, and at worst mildly annoying when the artifact is in evidence instead of the safe.
That's exactly right yup! On Big Oil you get a stealth bonus for DAY2 if you get far enough in stealth (15% total for both days). That's the way it should be for Breakin' Feds, because the current situation is just so sad whenever you get garage!
As for the start, personally I think Training Room is quite easy (it's very similar to Server Room, if you think about it), and kitchen is similarly easy if the training room is empty. However, when you get the kitchen laptop, plus the training room full of people, then that can be a nightmare! Since you're fully relying on patrol RNG to make a path for you during that 30s window, which is never guaranteed :(
We’re still not the biggest fans of BF (no friends who play PD2) but seeing it get absolutely slaughtered like this is some nice catharsis for our few hours doing it on DSOD.
Haha nice! That must've felt very refreshing to watch then, after hours of regular attempts :p Glad you liked it Meadow, thank you!
Ha, 5:45 was perfect. I can just hear the L4D music with you alerting "the horde" of guards and civies.
Great video, learned quite a bit from it too!
Haha glad you liked that! It's the only stealth heist where you can alert such a large number of enemies simultaneously, I wish we had more scenarios like this one :D
@@Marcmb Right? I also am so disappointed on how the ECM feedback no longer alerts the entire map.
I'd laugh so hard alerting EVERYONE in a state of panic and confusion with ❗ all over the place before just leaving XD
Oh wow! Just 10 hours after you wrote this message, the devs actually went ahead and reverted the change. Now feedback is back to alerting everyone: you interact with it, and the ❗ icons appear all over the map again haha. Incredible that you called it so close to it happening :D
@@Marcmb Ha, it's as if the devs were listening in on our conversation here! Now we can "stealth" and alert the hoard at will! :D
Those pager answering transitions are superb, good job on the editing!
Thank you very much Jav! Glad you liked that scene :)
Marc: "We are going to ecm rush breakin' feds!"
The crew: "You absolute madman!!!"
A madman for sure, but a proud one :p
right off the bat with a hot take that BF is a decent heist... i lost my family to garrett /j
no but seriously, ive had the worst experience with this heist when playing blind with my friends and it was torture, but it taught me a lot about stealth since it was one of the first few maps ive done in it! seeing all these ecm rushes really fuels the passion in me to keep trying and improving, it's always all so interesting! thank you for the amazing content (despite the community being on fire since U237 haha), keep it comin! ❤
Haha thanks Nadim! When learning the heist BLINDLY with friends it can be a nightmare that's for sure: it's never intentional, but the crew takes turns making mistakes along the learning process, and it can feel like you're getting nowhere! It can be a very punishing heist :D
Glad you liked this rush, and good luck in your journey towards improvement and full mastery :D As for U237, that was indeed quite a literal fire... They're fixing things and moving in the right direction, but I really hope they will iron everything out in U238 :)
literally cleaned the entire FBI hq💀
That is correct yup! Best heist ever :p
Marc spitting facts literally as soon as the video starts, damn. Breakin' Feds is one of my all-time favourite heists - I absolutely love how it tests the player's proficiency at stealth, and it's on the whole a short & fun heist with a nice objective structure. I genuinely can't understand how anyone could hate it. I usually shrug it off as either in-the-moment burst of frustration and that they don't actually mean it, or... I dunno, skill issue 😛
Great video, skillful rushes as always!
I hate to admit it, but I am terrible at stealth, godly terrible at it. It took me several hours to beat it. The even more frustrating thing is, I knew it wasn't too bad, but I just am so bad at stealth. I didn't struggle on any other heist nearly as much as I did that one. It really tested my patience 😂 I will say I believe I have since gotten a little bit better at stealth, but I still am not over how much pain it's caused me yet so I haven't replayed it since. 🤣
@@WildWombats Credit where it's due, Breakin' Feds is super tough. It's got a walking and easily triggerable fail condition, lots of guards in tight spaces that are frequently located right next to the objectives, and you have to carefully navigate there and back again (depending on the escape). But me personally, that's why I love it so much! It's like a rite of passage, the ultimate obstacle course. A frustrating one, but effective nevertheless.
Thank you JustAJAG, good to know you agree with me on that one! Absolutely, short and sweet is a perfect description for it. There aren't many stealth heists that fit with this description (plus this one has no need for extra loot either, unless you feel like doing that), so it's like a flawless, perfect heist. So so good, every single time!
Glad you liked the rush, thank you very much :)
@@WildWombats The first completion can be quite tough yup, especially without a guide! As you say there's lots of things to learn and improve over time, so I'm sure if you gave it another go and replayed it, it would go much better! :D
Marc, you're pushing my loyalty saying that Breakin' Feds is anything but the worst stealth heist...
It's so good though!!! Always my go-to when I don't know which heist to pick, while playing random stealth :D
loved figuring out how to stealth feds amazing video
Thanks yerig! Glad you could learn something useful from this :p
The only part I cant do is the part where you cut the security box wires mostly because I either cant find them or that the guards have perfect coordination and always just camp the boxes
Hey Blob! I would say that's the easiest part, actually! I have another video with stealth tips for this heist, where I recommend simply taking out the 4 guards who patrol around those power boxes, on Garrett's side (3 guards + 1 from elevator). In this way, you don't have to worry about anyone, while doing all the objectives on that side :)
Haven't seen the video yet, but I agree with the first statement...
also haven't read the title, now I'm hyped, I've been waiting this rush for so long :)
This rush is finally here, XA_Live! It was requested a few times in the past, and I finally got around to it :D
love how the fbi agents still say things like "there are there are men with guns here, send the police"
even though they are in fbi headquarters
Haha true! A bit out of place but very funny :D
THE worst stealth heist is big bank when trying to do Entrapment
Perhaps perhaps! Back in the day when I did Entrapment (I was a new heister so I just wanted the achievement, not the challenge) I just did it on low difficulty to abuse the low number of guards :p
I guess my mistake was doing it on DS cuz I still wanted some xp out of it, huh :v
@@_Salok That's fair! Thinking about it, a safe way to do it regardless of difficulty is probably by abusing the drill exploit (so all vault area guards eventually get stuck if you wait long enough)...
I still think its odd that the police call the police on this heist
Gotta bring in back up.
Need more police! :D
It was the hardest for me until i beaten it 2 times.
Now its my favorite heist
That's awesome! It's also one of my favorites, so I'm glad to hear that :D
Marc will always find a way to ECM rush
Marc will always try to do the impossible 😂
I wonder what you'll bring for us if payday 3 comes out😂
Haha absolutely! Eventually I want to have ECM rushed all heists, even those deemed "impossible"! PAYDAY 3 is gonna be great for challenges too, I'm sure :D
lmao! The way you hiding corpses is so funny. I can't stop laughing at it.
:D Glad you liked that, thank you! The power of Akimbo SMGs!
So, while everyone else is agreeing with this map not being the worst stealth heist, what *is* the worst one, then?
Are you going off pure stealth or can be stealthed?
Hey Elektross! Excellent question... As far as stealth goes, the worst one is probably one of the beginner ones. Bank Heist comes to mind, because it's just waiting for a 6 minute drill (minus 30% with skills). The simplicity in taking out the 4 guards is somewhat enjoyable though, so the true worst one is probably Nightclub: the server door objective is nice (looking for keycard / skilling into ECM Overdrive / bringing a saw), but then you wait for a 6-minute drill for the money, then wait 5 minutes for the escape to arrive. So bad!
This makes Breakin Feds infinitely better for me
The rush is certainly really fun! Glad you liked this, Killer :D
I have an idea for a video and that is can you get away with killing Garret i know it sounds bad but i think its possible by opening the safe but not picking up the box (i dont know if garret notices that) then distracting him again 3 players with yakuza take the box and run to the exit it has to be the one with the c4 one player stays behind tho and as the 3 players get on the exit he kills garret and leaves so the heist ends idk if its possible to get the escape with the box within the time period of garett being distracted but hey thats just a theory a Game theory alright seriously try it
Hey Lukas! There is some people who have done a similar thing in the past yup! If you place a trip mine in Garrett's office while he's gone, and then quickly run to the escape, he will eventually walk into the trip mine and then you can trigger the escape. Kinda cool :D
Someone made a loud version of breakin feds which if I’m wrong can effect the career mode. Right?
Hey ryan! That's correct yes. There's a heist called "Hoxton Breakout" where you raid the same building (the lower floors) but on loud!
How do I get this heist because I can’t see it
Hey wolf! This heist is FREE for all players on the PC version. Are you perhaps on console? Unfortunately console heisters never got this heist I think, so it wouldn't be available for you...
What are the odds of keycard spawning in the safe? I've played this heist like 20 times and I've never seen a keycard there.
Marc will u move to payday 3 or will keep uploading payday 2 too?
Hey Selphie! I will kinda move to PAYDAY 3, but I'll definitely continue making content for both! :D
Aye rip i cant run payday 3 need to upgrade for that xD
@@selphieb1549 The requirements are a bit high yeah :( After the initial PAYDAY 3 content, I will most likely play both equally!
Another banger Marcmb video!
Thanks so much exfale! Very kind of you :)
this is an amazing rush! could you tell me the shotgun your using an the mods for it. Thanks!
Thanks Whatdo, glad you liked the rush! :)
As for the shotgun, I recently uploaded my stealth build, with shotgun info. Find it here, timestamped! th-cam.com/video/UsSTQep5erU/w-d-xo.html
6:34 wait what???
Oooh haha! The good old "throw loot to the skylight instead of ziplining it" to secure bags faster on Breakin' Feds :D
Marcmb pushing the limits of stealth and deisel engine to check if a heist is ecm rush possible (it is)
Haha thanks Mauricio! You are indeed correct: if you think about it long enough, then anything can be possible :p
Even in stealth akimbo SMGs are strong, lehmao
Hahah yup, kinda funny! Extremely extremely powerful in loud (especially combined with Bulletstorm just to abuse everything), and also incredibly useful in stealth, for a different (utility-based) reason :D
How much XP was it?
Hey Optic! About 1.3M I think? You can see the XP Breakdown right at the end of the video!
gonna be honest, 0:28 is exactly WHY it isn't a good stealth heist. if going out of your way to abuse the low number of guards is the first and most obvious solution, instead of just working around them, there's a problem
That's a very good point Sae! At this point it's mostly a matter of playstyle because the ability to invest 4 pagers there is so powerful, that it's almost foolish to not take it. Although, even for pacifist runs, there are still spots to hide, and multiple paths to avoid the guards, which makes it a fun heist still!
I will admit however, that the central room on the right side is quite poorly designed: if a new heister makes the mistake of hiding there for even a moment, it's very likely that he will be locked in there for a long time, as the rotating guards make it impossible to leave for quite a while. But if you just avoid that trap spot, it's quite easy and smooth to move around the place! :D
penguin role! penguin role! penguin role! 🐧🐧🐧
Nuh uh _Captain Pengu_ we said, and only someday! It's gonna be your reward in the far future if you can ever behave like a true exemplary penguin! 🐧🐧🐧
How do you change the levels of the ECMs?
don't ace ecm specialist for level 2 ace it for level 3
Hey mexhit! It's just as *@Idio* said yup.
In both cases, always get Overdrive BASIC regardless, for the +5s duration.
Can u make a video about firestarter day 1 stealth, it's really a tough one 😅
Do you generally do it on overkill and below or on mayhem and above?
Hey Hung! I do have plans to make a Firestarter guide yup, with tips for taking out gangsters in general, and also specific sections with tips for all hangar combinations. I don't know exactly when because I'm also working on other guides, and solo Infamy Farming, but definitely stay tuned!
@@fiyahquacker2835 well, i prefer doing on ds, but there're too many gangs, i only managed to steal the first hangar with 4 bags and then i got detected :))
@@Marcmb thank for making a guide on that heist, day 2 of the heist is also pretty hard as well because it has many guards. I will wait for your videos
@@HungTran-rc7dh Thank you! DAY2 in my opinion is the highlight of the 3-day heist. It's really cool, and a nice reward after getting through DAY1 :D
Marcmb are u console or pc
he's pc
I am on PC indeed, just like *@Idio* said.
@@Marcmb thank u also can u do a console build
@@Ralez43 No problem!
And unfortunately, I do not own a console myself, so I can't make a build for console players :( sorry about that...
@@Marcmb ok
I always hear people say breakin feds is the worst stealth heist cause you can't hide anywhere which makes it way too difficult... which I find surprising cause you can hide all over the place. I think all stealth only heists are super easy. The only stealth heist I'd consider difficult is big bank XD
That's exactly right Rudi! It has so many spots to hide, and so many options to allow a guard to walk past, while you take a different route. When you understand the heist, it becomes very easy :D
haven’t played in a long time but breakin feds is easily one of my favourite heists to stealth
That's great to hear TheJ! Anyone who enjoys BFeds is always a great member of the community. If you haven't played in a while, make sure you stay up to date with the PAYDAY 3 news: currently announced for September 21st!
Hey marmb can u show me ur stealth build
Hey YEET! Absolutely :) Last week (8 days ago) I uploaded a stealth build video, fully updated to the most recent stuff. That will help!!
@@Marcmb thank u for ur reply I appreciate it
omghi! looks very cool have a nice week!
Hiiiii Agent! You have a nice week as well :) thank you!
lmao, there are two opinionsm marc's opinion and the wrong one.
Hahaha! Thanks Gabriel, glad you agree with that Breakin' Feds is king :p
Breaking feds isn’t bad, it’s a bit hard. Alesso on the other end…
I would say both are good, personally! Although I don't really enjoy playing Alesso without trip mines: too many risky corners, especially on the top floor!
I actually think its one of the best stealth heists because its slow to play. makes me actually feel like im sneaking around. For farming and efficiency though i def see how it could be hated lol.
That is perfect, BLK! Many of us in this community are big fans of this heist, it's just that sadly a large part of the community hates it :(
Easy Ask garret kindly to not snitch not like he works at the fbi or anything and is supposed to bring justice to you guys :)
Haha that would be nice! Maybe he has a price, and in exchange for a hefty cut, he allows us to get away with it :p
My most hated stealth heist since the day ive played it is bomb dockyard
and it has the simplest guard patrols
Hey Pioter! As *@Alt* has mentioned, Dockyard actually has very simple and predictable guard patrol patterns! My Dockyard guide has a brief 3-minute section explaining that patrolling, if you're interested!
@@Marcmb oh, i wasnt aware you have a guide about bomb dockyard. Im going to check it out for sure
@@PioterCygan Hopefully that will help! It's neat how the pathfinding works differently for that heist, compared to other heists :D
we speedrunners just kill Garret ;)
Haha I've heard about that yup! Something about going out of bounds to trigger the garage explosion, which then allows you to kill Garrett without triggering his point of no return, and also I think bugging his hitbox. Very fancy stuff :D
gigachad ecm rush/stealth BF enjoyers VS sad transport heist grinders
:D Happily a member of the former!!
Hello
Hello Carmt!
Fifth
Sixth actually!! But thank you for the very quick comment Simeon :p
I can respect your opinion on breakin' feds but from personal experience its utterly shit.
Regardless of what i do, guards will always reappear and replace the guards I kill through the elevators, making all of that work to safely kill and take a pager useless.
Honestly this type of BS in stealth is a "challenge" to some, but also a fucking nuisance and annoyance to casual stealth players just trying to do the career.
only one guard reappears in the elevators per side
Then be careful, don't get caught and take out the cam guy. It's not really bs when it's fairly easy.
Hey Blue! This comes with map knowledge so it's fine, but as *@Idio* said only one backup guard will ever be sent (per side), so there's never a situation of never-ending guards: just 4, and then done!
You can also take out cams as *@fiyah* suggests, but then you need to avoid the 1 backup guard, so I don't recommend it personally!
penguin role i agree with legendsapeks6168 🐧🐧🐧🐧
Bwoah another penguin! Thanks Pengu! 🐧🐧🐧
@@Marcmb its spreading 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧
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How do I get the right code the first time?
Locke gives you a hint
Anniversary = 1212
obvious = 1234
payday gang = 2015
historical = 1776
The fourth digit in the code doesn't matter so you can just put whatever
Hey gibiglut! Just replying to confirm that it's all about the hint yup, as *@Idio* mentioned.