It's refreshing seeing a laptop review that isn't only "this feels nice and looks ok and gets 100 FPS on R6 Siege". The point about hinges specifically comes to mind.
Sometimes it is so bad when I tell the repairman (under warranty) about the model of 2020 Legion 7 I had repaired, they immediately knows it is the hinge. And have more horror story to share about the cheapest models that schools buy in bulk
@@harrytsang1501are Legions known for this? I got the 2021 Legion 5 Pro last year on sale and I haven't had any issues yet. I actually love the thing and I've never "loved" a laptop - especially after working with MANY low price laptops at work.
100 fps in a laptop maybe with an external graphic card regardless witch you might chose it will be the same laptops with discrete gpu don't run at full blast on each component if you can get more than 70% gpu usage (mostly with a charger inserted and on high performance power plan but the CPU will have just 40% and really intel CPUs will not perform Werry well with underpower
Don't worry bruh... I just got an rtx 4060(8gb) and i7 gf63 follow few tips and tricks about it's temperature. And this works like a charm. Seriously I got it a week ago and every game (AAA) and vid editing softwares like blender, or engines like unreal engine work very smooth when rtx is switched on and many layers are being worked on simultaneously
@@yogapranav5145can you pass me the info? i got the Rtx 4050 I7 version and it always overheats, to the point where i have to put a desk fan on the side
@@nanorl2210 You can lower cpu max heat in BIOS to have it last longer Small Loss in performance in my opinion but worth it There is a fan control system with MSI unleash the dragon thingy For Linux ISW ice sealed wivern does the trick
As a former dead-hinge acer user this might be the best laptop review channel i've seen overall. looking into the build from the inside instead of testing the same cpu and gpu 500 times, i can't believe it! Hope the channel blows up anytime soon
Hinges is something I wish more reviewers looked into. At work I saw way too many laptops with cracked displays or torn LCD flex cables because the hinge got torn out. Great review, I instantly subbed.
I'm going to reinforce the hinges in my GF75 Thin using the super glue and baking soda trick next time I open it for cleaning. If it worked on a polymer handgun frame, it will work on those hinges like a charm. It stays open most of the time and I rarely take it anywhere but there are already clicking sounds and signs the mount point is weakening. It is because the brackets in the body of the laptop are screwed into the lowest grade ABS with 3 or 4 tiny little screws. Over time, the screws work loose and pull free. The attach point at the display doesn't seem to be problematic, probably because it is sandwiched in.
@@Lurch-Bot I riveted mine and friend's laptop because the hinge is failing and the bezel breaks apart. Was it superrisky? Yes indeed. Was it an overkill? Definetly, but it'll definetly last a very long time. This is not only MSI issue, Asus (budget ones at least) also have this issue I hate that new laptops where it physically breaks easily.
Just found you and have to say: awesome. This review is basically just as long as most others but you're able to put MUCH more (often really important) details into it without it feeling cramped. Others often just blindly recommend such a Laptop because "it's cheap and you can't go wrong with that" and many probably then will be extremely disappointed when this thing breaks and they have to spend much more.
I bought a GF75 thin on sale in April 2021. Cost $730 after tax and a second 8GB stick of RAM. Not bad for the height of the mining boom. People were buying these to mine Eth, lol. In fact, all this laptop did for the first 3 months was mine Eth. Then the DAG file went over 4GB and I moved it into my bedroom to replace a Athlon X4/ R9 280 desktop which was really struggling with Cyberpunk. It has held up fine because it lives in my bedroom and hardly ever gets opened or closed. I am going to reinforce the hinge mounts because they are just screwed into the ABS and it is the lowest grade of ABS. I also have it on a stand to help with cooling. It still works great as a bedroom PC/entertainment device and, while I may not play the latest games on it, there are hundreds of games I want to play that will run great on it. I have a theory about the lousy build quality - since I was able to get the #2 score on Time Spy for the specific combo of 10300H/1650Ti just by turning on Game Mode and overclocking in Afterburner, it would seem they cheaped out on anything not directly related to game performance. This is why it has a decent screen (OP has just been using expensive displays too long), performs very well for the hardware inside and has a decent keyboard but everything else sucks. You can fix the hinge problem with the super glue and baking soda trick, which is the only real deal breaker I see at this price point. These laptops are super easy to open and work on.
It's really nice to see someone pointing out and explaining the hinge issue so well. I had a GE73VR Raider before I got my pc and it had the same exact hinges which failed exactly like shown in the video. The metallic hinges themselves didn't fail but the plastic all around the hinges and the bezels was breaking. It got to the point where closing the laptop lid was impossible because the whole plastic frame threatened to completely break if I force closed it. Ended up heavily loosening the hinges and epoxying the plastic frame which worked as a temporary solution while waiting for a new frame to arrive from Aliexpress. However I had to loosen the hinges so much that the lid couldn't stay up at angles between 0 to 70 ish. Weird thing is that the hinges themselves never broke, they just applied a ridiculous amount of force on the plastic around them. I recommend at least loosening the hinges ASAP if you get one of these laptops.
Newer models, while there's nothing to defend on, only the display cover breaks around screw holes. Older models breaks keyboard deck too around the corners, so now it needs whole body to be replaced. Can say they improved design by 50% lol. IDK why MSI design these terrible hinges, even on 2000+$ laptops. Its ridiculous.
How do you do this? I have a one year warranty and msi offer 3 month extension but beyond that it's very expensive 250 euro for the 2 year extension which is half the cost of the laptop (for me).
Just a small comment as an electrical engineer. @11:17 Those huge LR22 things are not voltage regulators. Those are inductors used for buck regulator. They are pretty much indestructible though, that's why you don't need to cool those. Those small PQ ICs are MOSFETS, plus the Schottky diodes, on the other hand, are temperature sensitive and requires cooling - but that's what those HUGE copper traces are for. Modern board design uses huge copper layers to cool right through the PCB through very large bottom pads, and don't need external radiators that are cumbersome and prone to damage.
My brother and I both had MSI laptops a few years ago. Different models, but after some time they both started to fall apart (after the warranty had expired of course). Mine broke at the screen hinge and my brothers' keyboard started malfunctioning key-by-key.
Mine also broke at the screen hinge! I think it took roughly 3-4 years and I still held onto it. I used it as a movie player for my TV until one day it wouldn't boot up. I proceeded to then gut it for the drives, RAM, and then recycle the rest because nothing was worth fixing on it
I still have mine from 2020, the gf63 with the I7 and 1650. I upgraded it (added another 8gb of ram and a 2.5 inch ssd) , and it still holds up today. Not my main rig but it used to be for about a year while I was at school. Did its job well. Edit : after using mine for well over 2 years I don't have the hinge problem
my girlfriend's too, but hers is the 1050ti version, and its performing better than my Dell G3 that I bought around the same time. im waiting for a MSI Cyborg 15 to arrive and im hoping it is good.
@jaemiura5526 it's not my main rig anymore I only use it for light gaming whenever I don't have access to my room. By "holds up" I meant the whole laptop like it still works and does everything I need to well
I've been running the GF63 for 5 years now and I barely had any issues with it. After watching this video, it's good to know the laptop's shortcomings and what to expect in the future. I'm not gonna replace mine anytime soon, it's still running very well for its age, but now I know what to look for.
seeing the hinge in so much detail was enough to simultaneously write this laptop off and watch the video to the end because of your thorough inspections!
I got the gf63 with an i7 and a gta 1660ti, and its been working great for me as my daily driver for 2 years. I upgraded the ram to 32gb and added a 1tb HDD.
@@theviralstuff4460 I’m not using it for gaming really so have had zero problems. When I did game on it it got very loud though. But for a work laptop this is a great laptop with plenty of power.
I bought this laptop a few months ago and I was honestly impressed by the price and quality (compared to other laptops). I paid around 600€ for it and it came with an rtx 3050, i7, 16gb RAM and a screen refresh rate of 144ghz. The other laptops that were on sale by that time were WAY MORE EXPENSIVE and had LOWER SPECS!! But that's not all, I could not find any other laptop to come in METAL instead of shitty plastic that bends like plasticine... I'm quite happy with it now and I can play very high end games at very good frame rates at max graphics... Idk for somebody whose passion is gaming maybe it's not the best option but since I'm quite new to professional gaming and I don't spend that much time on it I think it was more than perfect
I bought this tonight on sale and it came with a 1TB SSD. I did not buy it for serious gaming but to have something for traveling. And if I get bored well, there's always a little gaming too. It was $599
@@mehshutup3041 i think it's a bit late now lol... when I bought my MSI it was the best offer out there. For the same price I could only get Lenovo Ideapads and HP Pavilions with by far worse specs and build quality. Still, I'm really happy with my MSI and it hasn't given me any problems and runs smoothly and really well for me. It is going to be 1yo soon and I am really satisfied so far!
This is the video I wished I saw 3 years ago when I purchased my first MSI laptop, great review! I had an MSI PS63, which had the hinge break 2 times in the span of 3 years. I hate having to buy something new instead of repairing it, but after 3 years I had to throw the towel with this laptop. I couldn't keep fixing something that was flawed from the beginning, and worse, MSI DENIES ANY WRONG DOING EVEN UNDER WARRANTY. It also throttled every 6 months if you didn't clean up the inside... because having thinness as a selling point only matters when you first buy the laptop... From personal experience, MSI isn't worth the cost savings. Just buy a more premium laptop and the price difference will pay itself in a few years.
HOW HAVE I NOT been served vids from this channel before. That was an amazing video. Thank you so much for putting in the effort, time and all the editing. Subbed.
Honestly. I bought this laptop and it meets my standards. I think its a really good laptop and gets the job done. I dont use it for serious gaming, but it does what I need it to do and thats what matters.
4:10 I've actually replaced one of these riveted keyboards before by ripping off the plastic rivets, removing the metal sheet and replacing the keyboard, then we took a bunch of discarded stems from lollipops we had lying around, cut them into small pieces, and using a soldering iron, I used that to create new rivets. This was like 3 years ago. The keyboard on that laptop's still going strong.
Appreciate this type of review. Please continue making them, wish you luck. There's a lot more scummy engineering and practices out there that you'll uncover doing these reviews. I certainly found plenty.
This may be the only video I have seen of yours thus far, but you deserve a sub. We need more people who are going to tear shitty laptops a new one. Tech companies expect to get more money for less product as time goes on, and we need honest reviewers who will gain a large enough audience that their reviews matter and make an impact. You're the Gamer's Nexus for laptops, and we need more people like you. Thank you. Subbed.
Got the PC and the critique is great, surprised how underrated this channel is with how much quality I have. Though it's an excellent review, one point you're kinda missing is how cheap this is with how great the specs you get, yes the build quality won't be on par to the PC's a few hundred bucks more but that's a comprimise I'm willing to have.
I had the hinge on my MSI GP73 (2018) fixed by a laptop repair man a year ago, unfortunately the hinge started to come apart again a few weeks ago so I attempted a repair it myself by drilling a small hole through the bezel hinge and top panel then I screwed a bolt through the hole and clamped it together with a nut and some washers. Surprisingly it worked lol, hopefully my repair will hold another year.
Wow, I had no idea there was a class action lawsuit over those damned hinges. The ones on my GE62VR broke free from the back panel a couple years ago, causing the thing to split.
This is my first time seeing a very detailed review from hardware specs, software, until the materials used and the structural integrity of the build. Keep up the good work
I have the same sentinent with my GF65 even if it is a 10th Gen i5/RTX 3060, pretty much a "get's the job done" laptop for how it was the cheapest at the time, got for $850 back in late 2021.
Same here, had to upgrade the ram from 8 to 16 and storage but runs fine for the most part. Only thing I would say is that it runs wayyyyyy too hot even with the cooler boost on, hitting 90s.
I have the GF63 Thin 11SC and it works perfectly. Runs most of the titles with ease. I upgraded the RAM and SSD tho and for 500 euros I couldn't ask for a better budget laptop. Let's hope the hinges hold. Last laptop I had cost me 1500 and the hinges broke to the point the metal slabs broke too, dont want to experience that again.
From all 5 of my previous titan laptops....they have been amazingly durable, easy to upgrade and smash tasks because of excellent cooling. It almost feels to me that something is pre meditated on these products.
@@11DowningStreet I guess cooling and the ability to have a fully opened back panel and upgradability are only for the expensive market....and not for people that can't afford them. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce with a Honda...definitely shouldn't be able to repair anything on the Honda then by how you would want the market, it's not been engineered that way.
@@11DowningStreet Just that lower end products would be much more desirable and worth the time and energy that they put into making them so that users are better able to upgrade and clean them. If they are made to be hard to open and clean cooling will be limited, and sure enough if they are harder to upgrade then they don't last as long.
As a MSI GF63 Thin (3050) user, thank you for this. I am already convinced that this laptop was cheap, now, I am double convinced that this laptop is indeed cheap and bulit to fail. Well, I will just take care of it much more now. Using it for more than 2 years now, and so far, no issues, it does its job well.
@@Zerrr0 the hinges have no issues so far, no hardware issue, my only concern is it generates heat fast, as it only has single fan, but I use a cooler to at least keep it from overheating.
Man this channel definitely needs more subs. Durability is a key metric no other channel looks at, and fell a victim to it with the flashy ASUS G14, everyone made it be the best gaming laptop in 2021-2022 but no one even hinted at the durability and QC issues that it had/has. Keep the great work up!
@@mohan2779 it randomly died off and when it was sent to RMA, turns out that machine welding had left debris on the MB that ended up shorting everything 2021 model. Laptop in general is not serviceable as the battery latch is made out of metal and not a plastic latch, in turn ended up shorting the MB on the 2022 model, when I tried to update the SSD. My 2022 model also had major issues of bad wifi and the wifi disconnecting every time I plugged in any usb port (type c or other).
I confirm the hinge situation. I had one of these and the left hinge got smashed in less than a year. I had to replace it via warranty so I didn't pay anything but it was ridiculous it broke so quick. I sold it afterwards. Bless the new owner lol.
How much did you torture your laptop anyway? I always carry them only with one hand, shove them in bag, and rarely ever turn them off and it's still intact like new, albeit slightly dusty.
@@tanjummehejabin4655 I'm using old gf63, so the body has a thin metal layer. Thermal wise, it gets rather hot, but that's because I always set the fan to the lowest setting because of how loud it can get on auto. It doesn't feel premium, but I have been using it for about 3 years, almost always have it plugged, and never really turned it off, I always set it on sleep when I don't use it, and yet it still works. So there's nothing to worry about the reliability imo. It's the very definition of a beater laptop.
Great review, as always. And yes, it'll be great to see the comparison of the durability of hinges of this laptop versus the Dell G15's. Just wish that you could review more laptops. Any chance that we could have one for the 2023 Dell G16 7630 soon?
@@NuclearNotebook Great! Hope that happens soon. I have paused my buying decision unless I see more detailed reviews, like yours. And honestly, you deserve many, many more subs. This channel is one of the hidden gems. There are few other channels out there that put out such honest and in-depth reviews. Most seem to be influenced by the very brands they are reviewing :( Kudos and keep going!
Nice review. Straight to the points, no BS. I wish all big tech channels were like that instead of filling their videos with stupid amounts of unnecessary fillers in every video.
i just came by this channel. LOVE the attention to power phases and hotspots. the 45 watt TGP and it staying there while delivering this performance is... pretty impressive.. yeah the low memory bus sucks but by god it would be nice to be able to buy this chip on a passive desktop card for light GPU accelerated workloads
Buying 'used'. You can buy like 2 year old, higher-end laptops for less than one of these new shitboxes. FB marketplace has good deals come along if you check. If you're gonna buy new, generally I find Acer to have the best laptops for the money with Asus and MSI being the worst, though a lot share a lot of components as they all outsource to the same big companies. Also, get a 17.3 since they're usually the same price and are legit desktop replacements.
I BOUGHT THIS LAPTOP AND IT CAME OUT OF THE BOX WITH A FAULTY MOTHERBOARD THE LAPTOP WOULD JUST NOT WORK ON BATTERY POWER TOOK ME MONTHS TO GET IT FIXED. NEVER GOING TO BUY MSI EVER!!!!
you're seriously good, i've hopped laptop through laptop for school and college and every "good one" (according to other reviewers) always turned out to fail after a few months, and i developed my theory that laptops are made to do well in "looking at it for a day, maybe a week" reviews and not to be reliable. thanks for your service, we needed a real channel like yours. I'd suggest you also tackle the budget thin and light segment so that students etc. can get more information on what they're buying. another thing that I've seen failing is the fan on many laptops so take a look at those next time you need a lot more subscribers, maybe a patreon even :)
Man I was so invested in what you wrote on the notepad but after careful examination "Welcome to nuclear notebook", really let me down. Nevertheless, amazing review, I felt happy with my dell 7577 1050ti laptop I'm currently using! Subbed! Edit: Bro, more I watch this video, more I get captivated with the amount of detail you put into your work. This is awesome, you're like hardware+monitors unboxed, but for laptops. Any one of other mainstream laptop reviewers would have skipped any panel RGB, brightness testing and said "Oh yeah btw the colors are good to my eye" or some other bs that means nothing to the tech savvy buyer. If this is the kind of content you're making I'm just going to binge watch all your stuff just out of entertainment value. Love from Turkey, much respect!
I don't understand how this is hating, this is a review channel. If you have the money and saved up enough to buy a laptop might as well be well informed.
TH-cam has been trying to spoon-feed me this video for the past week in my recommended. I am not in the market for a laptop nor have I searched for anything particularly laptop related. I finally decided to give this a watch and I am very pleasantly surprised at the quality of this review. You went very in-depth with the build quality, thermals and the performance of this thing. This video was very informative and entertaining. I am surprised your channel is relatively small considering the effort put in to this video. I just want to say keep up the good work. I'm excited to see what else you put out.
I had a GS70 Stealth from 2016 that was about as terrible designed, and it cost $1600 back then. The hinge wasn’t great, the trackpad deteriorated within the first year, and the lid appeared to be made out of stamped aluminum. It’s ultimate demise came when I sent it back for a failed wifi card, and it was destroyed by USPS. I was mad about it then, but honestly they did me a favor…
I've got a Legion 5 2021 version and this thing is indestructible. After 20+ disassembles the only thing that broke was a heatsink thread because of my own stupidity. Also I fell on a concrete floor backpack first with laptop in it, the plastic corner deformed af, a lid had a hairline crack, so I just super glued it together and straightened the corner with heat and sanding. Still holds together like a champ.
I agree with the Problems, i worked in a repair shop and 1 of the most common problems are the hinges, because these device dont have spare parts available for their life span in Germany, we had to glue the hinges with epoxy resin. I hate so many notebooks and their design, Lenovo Yoga for example was not repairable, if it broke, dont repair it was my advice.
I have been putting this video off for a long time now, but even then TH-cam kept shoving it down my throat every single time on the homepage. I'm glad it did.
I bought one in 2023 and love it. No hinge problem whatsoever (they fortified them starting 2022). 11th gen i5, 3050 16gb ram. Ran elden ring at 50, red dead at 60, even badly optimized games like total war.
My first gaming/school laptop was an MSI with an AMD processor and an ATI graphics card back in 2005. It had terrible hinges, and they broke apart in about 2 years. I see things have not changed.
Bloody hell, someone talking about things I actually care about on a laptop: build quality, engineering issues, power delivery, and cooling. Definitely subscribing.
As someone who spent ten years repairing laptops I can truly appreciate this review. The shear disregard for engineering hinges that won't break is astonishing. From asus and hp where the base screw mounts would always disintegrate from normal use. TO msi as well as hp plus others where the lcd back hinge screw mounts were flimsy or even worse the plastic mounting piece only held to the metal back by a single thin line of glue. JB weld become my best friend. Having to reconstruct a mounting point for the hinge since parts were either not available or grossly overpriced. Let alone all these laptop manufacturers deciding that adhesive was a good decision for how to hold a laptop together rather than screws.
My Asus Gen 1 Zephyrus Series laptop (gv501vik) circa 2017 had an unrecalled yet faulty battery, annoying features that used to be controllable by software but were no longer supported, and when I finally opened it up after working at a tech business, one of the adhesive for the fans to connect to the heatsink fins LITERALLY HAD THE CLEAR PLASTIC COVER ON IT STILL. 6 YEARS, NEVER CONNECTED ADHESIVELY FROM THE FACTORY Thank you, Asus
its pretty easy to make a review about the laptop in performance in gaming and just the general fell of it but you went WAY above and beyond going all into the build quality and part numbers and the parts used the bios and firmware and still going into the regular performance well done.
I got one of these for £300, not had a single issue regarding build quality.. I think you may be forgetting that anyone buying one of these is doing so for the incredibly cheap price whilst still having specs that can maintain 60fps in some modern games and aren't necessarily expecting the best build quality that you would get from a £1000 laptop... also mine doesn't have the hinge issue you made a section about... seems pretty solid and had it for a year so far of constant use whilst travelling
I will be honest...I've been daily driving this laptop for more than couple years...i5 10th gen with 1650 max-q, it does have thermal issues...sometimes throttling but I never really had issues with the hinge until now...idk if it's the older build quality or something. My GPU has 4GB vram with 30W power draw...it does thermal throttle in AAA titles but it does run most of them at 60FPS medium - high settings...I will recommend this laptop to anyone who has low money and still want to get good enough performance. But the single fan they include does not provide much cooling...it maxes at 7300RPM which is loud but can be avoided with good headphones. I never had any hardware issues with it even after couple+ years of usage other than thermal throttling after 2 year mark...reapplying thermal paste for CPU and GPU and some thermal pads for vrams is recommended after that mark...Great video...!
Update: I have reapplied thermal paste after 2 years and reapplied thermal pads, cleaning everything...the Temps are way lower now...64C - cpu and under 80C - GPU while playing Forza Horizon 5 - All High settings 1080p - 85-90 FPS (if your temps are low enough you can get the boost clock kick in from 990Mhz to around 1750Mhz). I do run games on HDD so we can improve it more but the 10th gen GF63 is performing good enough even it has single fan.
I'm expensive, fat and very offensive.
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*Typical w*man
@@willkelly2387 boomer humour
Sounds like my ex wife.
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Better than zoomer "humor".
@@Bossanova. who said I was a zoomer?
It's refreshing seeing a laptop review that isn't only "this feels nice and looks ok and gets 100 FPS on R6 Siege". The point about hinges specifically comes to mind.
Sometimes it is so bad when I tell the repairman (under warranty) about the model of 2020 Legion 7 I had repaired, they immediately knows it is the hinge. And have more horror story to share about the cheapest models that schools buy in bulk
hey man im currently having that same issue with the hinges on my legion 7, any tips on how to fix it?@@harrytsang1501
Exactly! wonderful review !
@@harrytsang1501are Legions known for this? I got the 2021 Legion 5 Pro last year on sale and I haven't had any issues yet. I actually love the thing and I've never "loved" a laptop - especially after working with MANY low price laptops at work.
100 fps in a laptop maybe with an external graphic card regardless witch you might chose it will be the same laptops with discrete gpu don't run at full blast on each component if you can get more than 70% gpu usage (mostly with a charger inserted and on high performance power plan but the CPU will have just 40% and really intel CPUs will not perform Werry well with underpower
These are the types of videos you get right after you buy a MSI GF63 Thin, bro made me feel like I have been stolen
Don't worry bruh... I just got an rtx 4060(8gb) and i7 gf63 follow few tips and tricks about it's temperature. And this works like a charm. Seriously I got it a week ago and every game (AAA) and vid editing softwares like blender, or engines like unreal engine work very smooth when rtx is switched on and many layers are being worked on simultaneously
@@yogapranav5145can you pass me the info? i got the Rtx 4050 I7 version and it always overheats, to the point where i have to put a desk fan on the side
I think they improved the hinges in newer gf63s, also it's very good for the specs unless the single fan
@@nanorl2210
You can lower cpu max heat in BIOS to have it last longer
Small Loss in performance in my opinion but worth it
There is a fan control system with MSI unleash the dragon thingy
For Linux ISW ice sealed wivern does the trick
@@yogapranav5145u make animation?
this channel is seriously underrated, I was shocked to see only 2k subs after finished the video, the quality is on part with 1m+ ones, great content
Thank you!
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
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The plastic on this laptop is shit it splits when i open my laptop
Agreed, first time here but I was surprised with quality on both the video and information, nice job
A genuine reviewer like this is very rate nowday, and I totally appreciate it.
So true I now on days you can't trust most reviewers as they are sponsored or get paid for ads (their review)
This channel is so so underrated, this is some TOP TOP tier content. Keep it up man, I can see your channel growing a lot in the future.
@@2.6 same, I like yours too
As a former dead-hinge acer user this might be the best laptop review channel i've seen overall. looking into the build from the inside instead of testing the same cpu and gpu 500 times, i can't believe it! Hope the channel blows up anytime soon
So many of the reviews are just click-bait cookie-cutter without actually have much experience of the products they are posting about...
Hinges is something I wish more reviewers looked into. At work I saw way too many laptops with cracked displays or torn LCD flex cables because the hinge got torn out.
Great review, I instantly subbed.
I'm going to reinforce the hinges in my GF75 Thin using the super glue and baking soda trick next time I open it for cleaning. If it worked on a polymer handgun frame, it will work on those hinges like a charm. It stays open most of the time and I rarely take it anywhere but there are already clicking sounds and signs the mount point is weakening. It is because the brackets in the body of the laptop are screwed into the lowest grade ABS with 3 or 4 tiny little screws. Over time, the screws work loose and pull free. The attach point at the display doesn't seem to be problematic, probably because it is sandwiched in.
@@Lurch-Bot I riveted mine and friend's laptop because the hinge is failing and the bezel breaks apart. Was it superrisky? Yes indeed. Was it an overkill? Definetly, but it'll definetly last a very long time. This is not only MSI issue, Asus (budget ones at least) also have this issue
I hate that new laptops where it physically breaks easily.
I am especially interested on how far the screen tilts back.
Yet 99.99% of reviews do not show this.
share your opinion about its body build and thermal processing....please...is it durable???...should i get it?
PSwG pfp, respect
no dropping things. no stupid slapstick comedy.
no false graphs.
just quality, succinct review.
got yourself a new subscriber.
Brother just @ linus next time
Hey you leave JayzTwoCents alone smfh
Just found you and have to say: awesome.
This review is basically just as long as most others but you're able to put MUCH more (often really important) details into it without it feeling cramped.
Others often just blindly recommend such a Laptop because "it's cheap and you can't go wrong with that" and many probably then will be extremely disappointed when this thing breaks and they have to spend much more.
I bought a GF75 thin on sale in April 2021. Cost $730 after tax and a second 8GB stick of RAM. Not bad for the height of the mining boom. People were buying these to mine Eth, lol. In fact, all this laptop did for the first 3 months was mine Eth. Then the DAG file went over 4GB and I moved it into my bedroom to replace a Athlon X4/ R9 280 desktop which was really struggling with Cyberpunk.
It has held up fine because it lives in my bedroom and hardly ever gets opened or closed. I am going to reinforce the hinge mounts because they are just screwed into the ABS and it is the lowest grade of ABS. I also have it on a stand to help with cooling. It still works great as a bedroom PC/entertainment device and, while I may not play the latest games on it, there are hundreds of games I want to play that will run great on it.
I have a theory about the lousy build quality - since I was able to get the #2 score on Time Spy for the specific combo of 10300H/1650Ti just by turning on Game Mode and overclocking in Afterburner, it would seem they cheaped out on anything not directly related to game performance. This is why it has a decent screen (OP has just been using expensive displays too long), performs very well for the hardware inside and has a decent keyboard but everything else sucks. You can fix the hinge problem with the super glue and baking soda trick, which is the only real deal breaker I see at this price point. These laptops are super easy to open and work on.
It's really nice to see someone pointing out and explaining the hinge issue so well. I had a GE73VR Raider before I got my pc and it had the same exact hinges which failed exactly like shown in the video. The metallic hinges themselves didn't fail but the plastic all around the hinges and the bezels was breaking. It got to the point where closing the laptop lid was impossible because the whole plastic frame threatened to completely break if I force closed it. Ended up heavily loosening the hinges and epoxying the plastic frame which worked as a temporary solution while waiting for a new frame to arrive from Aliexpress. However I had to loosen the hinges so much that the lid couldn't stay up at angles between 0 to 70 ish. Weird thing is that the hinges themselves never broke, they just applied a ridiculous amount of force on the plastic around them. I recommend at least loosening the hinges ASAP if you get one of these laptops.
Newer models, while there's nothing to defend on, only the display cover breaks around screw holes. Older models breaks keyboard deck too around the corners, so now it needs whole body to be replaced. Can say they improved design by 50% lol. IDK why MSI design these terrible hinges, even on 2000+$ laptops. Its ridiculous.
Mine broke 😭
Laughs in MacBook Pro 16"
How do you do this? I have a one year warranty and msi offer 3 month extension but beyond that it's very expensive 250 euro for the 2 year extension which is half the cost of the laptop (for me).
Yep. Same here on my MSI GE63 Raider. Screw holes on the lid.
Just a small comment as an electrical engineer.
@11:17 Those huge LR22 things are not voltage regulators. Those are inductors used for buck regulator. They are pretty much indestructible though, that's why you don't need to cool those.
Those small PQ ICs are MOSFETS, plus the Schottky diodes, on the other hand, are temperature sensitive and requires cooling - but that's what those HUGE copper traces are for. Modern board design uses huge copper layers to cool right through the PCB through very large bottom pads, and don't need external radiators that are cumbersome and prone to damage.
My brother and I both had MSI laptops a few years ago. Different models, but after some time they both started to fall apart (after the warranty had expired of course). Mine broke at the screen hinge and my brothers' keyboard started malfunctioning key-by-key.
that's generally working as intended. they're designed for 2 years use. as a desktop user i find this horrifying.
@@fuzzjunky honestly laptops seem like a lot more trouble then they are worth most of the time.
@@bustergundo516 if i can't fix something i aint buying it.
While mine is starting to die after 12 years of use (intel 2nd gen processor).😊 Old models fare better for sure.
Mine also broke at the screen hinge! I think it took roughly 3-4 years and I still held onto it. I used it as a movie player for my TV until one day it wouldn't boot up. I proceeded to then gut it for the drives, RAM, and then recycle the rest because nothing was worth fixing on it
Love this no bullshit style review.
Fancy casually randomly finding you here ❤
I still have mine from 2020, the gf63 with the I7 and 1650. I upgraded it (added another 8gb of ram and a 2.5 inch ssd) , and it still holds up today. Not my main rig but it used to be for about a year while I was at school. Did its job well.
Edit : after using mine for well over 2 years I don't have the hinge problem
my girlfriend's too, but hers is the 1050ti version, and its performing better than my Dell G3 that I bought around the same time. im waiting for a MSI Cyborg 15 to arrive and im hoping it is good.
I bought mine in 2016,
GE63 GTX970 with 6700K
Still works with no issues. Can't play modern games on it, but good for everything else.
lol a 1650 doesn't hold up today
@jaemiura5526 it's not my main rig anymore I only use it for light gaming whenever I don't have access to my room. By "holds up" I meant the whole laptop like it still works and does everything I need to well
@@jaemiura5526 of course it doesn't if you're a hardcore AAA slop consumer
I've been running the GF63 for 5 years now and I barely had any issues with it. After watching this video, it's good to know the laptop's shortcomings and what to expect in the future. I'm not gonna replace mine anytime soon, it's still running very well for its age, but now I know what to look for.
You're the first reviewer I've seen to talk about hinge design and durability. I've subscribed for that alone.
.. Now this is a review, indepth but quick and concise. Negatives pointed out accurately. You just won a sub
I seriously wasn't expecting such a detailed review and clicked on this as background noise. You've got a new sub :)
you won a subscription with this video.
It's a very rare nowadays sadly seeing reviews go this in deep as you do, covering many important aspects.
seeing the hinge in so much detail was enough to simultaneously write this laptop off and watch the video to the end because of your thorough inspections!
I got the gf63 with an i7 and a gta 1660ti, and its been working great for me as my daily driver for 2 years. I upgraded the ram to 32gb and added a 1tb HDD.
Why would you add an hdd ???
@@titcab8159 cause he doesn't have money to buy ssd dude
How's the heating issue and loud fan noise???
@@titcab8159 I meant to say SSD, I’m a bit of an idiot.
@@theviralstuff4460 I’m not using it for gaming really so have had zero problems. When I did game on it it got very loud though. But for a work laptop this is a great laptop with plenty of power.
Runtime measurement with max brightness is definitely essential for any laptop reviewer! Thank you for covering that!
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0:45 dont scare me like that my heart sank for a second
Dude you are so underrated, I love checking out different laptops and their details and your channel is perfect for that
I bought this laptop a few months ago and I was honestly impressed by the price and quality (compared to other laptops).
I paid around 600€ for it and it came with an rtx 3050, i7, 16gb RAM and a screen refresh rate of 144ghz. The other laptops that were on sale by that time were WAY MORE EXPENSIVE and had LOWER SPECS!! But that's not all, I could not find any other laptop to come in METAL instead of shitty plastic that bends like plasticine...
I'm quite happy with it now and I can play very high end games at very good frame rates at max graphics... Idk for somebody whose passion is gaming maybe it's not the best option but since I'm quite new to professional gaming and I don't spend that much time on it I think it was more than perfect
I bought this tonight on sale and it came with a 1TB SSD. I did not buy it for serious gaming but to have something for traveling. And if I get bored well, there's always a little gaming too. It was $599
@@out42c yeah with time things get cheaper, mine is only 500gb but i dont really mind its enough for me
You can get lenovo loq with the same price and better quality
@@mehshutup3041 i think it's a bit late now lol...
when I bought my MSI it was the best offer out there. For the same price I could only get Lenovo Ideapads and HP Pavilions with by far worse specs and build quality.
Still, I'm really happy with my MSI and it hasn't given me any problems and runs smoothly and really well for me. It is going to be 1yo soon and I am really satisfied so far!
Did you look at Asus TUF series ? They’re pretty well built and priced
This is the video I wished I saw 3 years ago when I purchased my first MSI laptop, great review! I had an MSI PS63, which had the hinge break 2 times in the span of 3 years. I hate having to buy something new instead of repairing it, but after 3 years I had to throw the towel with this laptop. I couldn't keep fixing something that was flawed from the beginning, and worse, MSI DENIES ANY WRONG DOING EVEN UNDER WARRANTY. It also throttled every 6 months if you didn't clean up the inside... because having thinness as a selling point only matters when you first buy the laptop...
From personal experience, MSI isn't worth the cost savings. Just buy a more premium laptop and the price difference will pay itself in a few years.
I'm also 3 years into my first MSI computer. hinges completely broke, won't be getting another MSI.
My MSI also have issues, for a 1000+$ laptop its disgusting on MSI Manufacturer.
I wish people would stop saying "more premium". This is not premium to begin with. What's wrong with the word "better" or "higher quality"?
Did msi not honour their warranty then? Are you in USA?
HOW HAVE I NOT been served vids from this channel before. That was an amazing video. Thank you so much for putting in the effort, time and all the editing. Subbed.
Honestly. I bought this laptop and it meets my standards. I think its a really good laptop and gets the job done. I dont use it for serious gaming, but it does what I need it to do and thats what matters.
same here.
How's the heating issue and loud fan noise???
4:10
I've actually replaced one of these riveted keyboards before by ripping off the plastic rivets, removing the metal sheet and replacing the keyboard, then we took a bunch of discarded stems from lollipops we had lying around, cut them into small pieces, and using a soldering iron, I used that to create new rivets. This was like 3 years ago. The keyboard on that laptop's still going strong.
Appreciate this type of review. Please continue making them, wish you luck. There's a lot more scummy engineering and practices out there that you'll uncover doing these reviews. I certainly found plenty.
This may be the only video I have seen of yours thus far, but you deserve a sub. We need more people who are going to tear shitty laptops a new one. Tech companies expect to get more money for less product as time goes on, and we need honest reviewers who will gain a large enough audience that their reviews matter and make an impact. You're the Gamer's Nexus for laptops, and we need more people like you. Thank you. Subbed.
Got the PC and the critique is great, surprised how underrated this channel is with how much quality I have. Though it's an excellent review, one point you're kinda missing is how cheap this is with how great the specs you get, yes the build quality won't be on par to the PC's a few hundred bucks more but that's a comprimise I'm willing to have.
my friend got this, but the i7 model, and he loves it.
This guy doing some amazing work. Recently, a lot of laptop reviews are a bit lackluster but this hit almost every point. Subscribed.
Bro I died at the 2008 re-enactment 🤣The microphone, the camera, everything. No need to edit the video!
I had the hinge on my MSI GP73 (2018) fixed by a laptop repair man a year ago, unfortunately the hinge started to come apart again a few weeks ago so I attempted a repair it myself by drilling a small hole through the bezel hinge and top panel then I screwed a bolt through the hole and clamped it together with a nut and some washers. Surprisingly it worked lol, hopefully my repair will hold another year.
Great review! FYI plastic welded keyboards are absolutely replaceable, personally done hundreds of them. Keep it up!
Well yeah, it's possible. But it's technically not user replaceable.
@@DerrickRG91 Isn't that the same as saying heart surgery is possible, just not by oneself, especially if they aren't a surgeon?
really nice review. well done. Glad someone on the LTT forums recommended this channel for me.
Wow, I had no idea there was a class action lawsuit over those damned hinges. The ones on my GE62VR broke free from the back panel a couple years ago, causing the thing to split.
This is my first time seeing a very detailed review from hardware specs, software, until the materials used and the structural integrity of the build. Keep up the good work
I have the same sentinent with my GF65 even if it is a 10th Gen i5/RTX 3060, pretty much a "get's the job done" laptop for how it was the cheapest at the time, got for $850 back in late 2021.
Same here, had to upgrade the ram from 8 to 16 and storage but runs fine for the most part. Only thing I would say is that it runs wayyyyyy too hot even with the cooler boost on, hitting 90s.
How's the heating issue and loud fan noise???
Same here, and i also faced similar issues with my laptop.
i nearly bought this, thank god for your review
I use an i3 2400 laptop, can confirm this is not ℮ waste
I NEED THAT HINGE DURABILITY TEST
Damn I got so many answers on my questions from this video. Thank you very much for this detail review. Wish your channel will grow up very fast.
I have the GF63 Thin 11SC and it works perfectly. Runs most of the titles with ease. I upgraded the RAM and SSD tho and for 500 euros I couldn't ask for a better budget laptop. Let's hope the hinges hold. Last laptop I had cost me 1500 and the hinges broke to the point the metal slabs broke too, dont want to experience that again.
I am willing to buy the same... Is the build quality and battery good or should i change my thoughts to other brands... (Reply fast bro)
How's the heating issue and loud fan noise???
share your opinion about its body build and thermal processing....please...is it durable???...should i get it?
@@theviralstuff4460Jesus, do you like hearing the sound of your own voice, or are you a parrot? 😩
I wish you did more reviews, this feels like geniuine, honest stuff. It does not feel like Im being sold on something
From all 5 of my previous titan laptops....they have been amazingly durable, easy to upgrade and smash tasks because of excellent cooling. It almost feels to me that something is pre meditated on these products.
bro compared a fucking titan to a gf63 💀
@@11DowningStreet I guess cooling and the ability to have a fully opened back panel and upgradability are only for the expensive market....and not for people that can't afford them. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce with a Honda...definitely shouldn't be able to repair anything on the Honda then by how you would want the market, it's not been engineered that way.
@@youquagmire what were you trying to say with your original message? maybe i misunderstood it
@@11DowningStreet Just that lower end products would be much more desirable and worth the time and energy that they put into making them so that users are better able to upgrade and clean them. If they are made to be hard to open and clean cooling will be limited, and sure enough if they are harder to upgrade then they don't last as long.
@@youquagmire oh for sure
As a MSI GF63 Thin (3050) user, thank you for this. I am already convinced that this laptop was cheap, now, I am double convinced that this laptop is indeed cheap and bulit to fail. Well, I will just take care of it much more now. Using it for more than 2 years now, and so far, no issues, it does its job well.
hows the hinges? that's some thing that worries me
@@Zerrr0 the hinges have no issues so far, no hardware issue, my only concern is it generates heat fast, as it only has single fan, but I use a cooler to at least keep it from overheating.
@@jhndranola have you tried to turn off the cpu turbo boost? I did it and at least it doesn't get hot when i'm literally doing nothing
Man this channel definitely needs more subs. Durability is a key metric no other channel looks at, and fell a victim to it with the flashy ASUS G14, everyone made it be the best gaming laptop in 2021-2022 but no one even hinted at the durability and QC issues that it had/has. Keep the great work up!
i am having the zephyrus g14 too, what kinda issue does it have ? (mine seems just fine)
@@mohan2779 it randomly died off and when it was sent to RMA, turns out that machine welding had left debris on the MB that ended up shorting everything 2021 model.
Laptop in general is not serviceable as the battery latch is made out of metal and not a plastic latch, in turn ended up shorting the MB on the 2022 model, when I tried to update the SSD.
My 2022 model also had major issues of bad wifi and the wifi disconnecting every time I plugged in any usb port (type c or other).
@@monsG165 I'm using the 2021 model and my device doesn't have any issues though, is this common in the g14 should I be concerned?
@@mohan2779it's not a bad device and if you get a good one you're fine but qc is pretty shit so ots really luck of the draw
@@pmwaffle9348 alright then👍
Thumbs up for you having experience in laptop repair and making review videos.
I confirm the hinge situation. I had one of these and the left hinge got smashed in less than a year. I had to replace it via warranty so I didn't pay anything but it was ridiculous it broke so quick. I sold it afterwards. Bless the new owner lol.
How much did you torture your laptop anyway? I always carry them only with one hand, shove them in bag, and rarely ever turn them off and it's still intact like new, albeit slightly dusty.
@@kawaiikoto8800 literally always sitting on my desk and opening and closing the lid as normal. No joke. The plastic case is the definition of CHEAP.
@@kawaiikoto8800 share your opinion about its body build and thermal processing....please...is it durable???...should i get it?
share your opinion about its body build and thermal processing....please...is it durable???...should i get it?
@@tanjummehejabin4655 I'm using old gf63, so the body has a thin metal layer. Thermal wise, it gets rather hot, but that's because I always set the fan to the lowest setting because of how loud it can get on auto. It doesn't feel premium, but I have been using it for about 3 years, almost always have it plugged, and never really turned it off, I always set it on sleep when I don't use it, and yet it still works. So there's nothing to worry about the reliability imo. It's the very definition of a beater laptop.
Just picked up this laptop, thanks for the video!
Hi, have you had any problems with the computer yet?
me too
share your opinion about its body build and thermal processing....please...is it durable???...should i get it?
If you continue like this, with this level of quality in your reviews, you can for sure be successful with the channel. Keep it on
Good naration on the details like, hinge, battery and recommendations. Thanks
I like the start section of your videos.
Great review, as always. And yes, it'll be great to see the comparison of the durability of hinges of this laptop versus the Dell G15's. Just wish that you could review more laptops. Any chance that we could have one for the 2023 Dell G16 7630 soon?
G16 content incoming as soon as I get my hands on one!
@@NuclearNotebook Great! Hope that happens soon. I have paused my buying decision unless I see more detailed reviews, like yours.
And honestly, you deserve many, many more subs. This channel is one of the hidden gems. There are few other channels out there that put out such honest and in-depth reviews. Most seem to be influenced by the very brands they are reviewing :(
Kudos and keep going!
Nice review. Straight to the points, no BS. I wish all big tech channels were like that instead of filling their videos with stupid amounts of unnecessary fillers in every video.
i just came by this channel. LOVE the attention to power phases and hotspots.
the 45 watt TGP and it staying there while delivering this performance is... pretty impressive.. yeah the low memory bus sucks but by god it would be nice to be able to buy this chip on a passive desktop card for light GPU accelerated workloads
Thanks - purchased one on Black Friday. Will be adding a thermal pad to the M.2 and voltage regulators.
So what would you suggest for around same price range?
Buying 'used'. You can buy like 2 year old, higher-end laptops for less than one of these new shitboxes. FB marketplace has good deals come along if you check. If you're gonna buy new, generally I find Acer to have the best laptops for the money with Asus and MSI being the worst, though a lot share a lot of components as they all outsource to the same big companies. Also, get a 17.3 since they're usually the same price and are legit desktop replacements.
I love the thumbnail. And the previously part. Legit review. Keep it up.
You wrote "Welcome to Nuclear Notebook" on the trackpad. :)
I BOUGHT THIS LAPTOP AND IT CAME OUT OF THE BOX WITH A FAULTY MOTHERBOARD THE LAPTOP WOULD JUST NOT WORK ON BATTERY POWER TOOK ME MONTHS TO GET IT FIXED. NEVER GOING TO BUY MSI EVER!!!!
you're seriously good, i've hopped laptop through laptop for school and college and every "good one" (according to other reviewers) always turned out to fail after a few months, and i developed my theory that laptops are made to do well in "looking at it for a day, maybe a week" reviews and not to be reliable. thanks for your service, we needed a real channel like yours. I'd suggest you also tackle the budget thin and light segment so that students etc. can get more information on what they're buying. another thing that I've seen failing is the fan on many laptops so take a look at those next time
you need a lot more subscribers, maybe a patreon even :)
Man I was so invested in what you wrote on the notepad but after careful examination "Welcome to nuclear notebook", really let me down. Nevertheless, amazing review, I felt happy with my dell 7577 1050ti laptop I'm currently using! Subbed!
Edit: Bro, more I watch this video, more I get captivated with the amount of detail you put into your work. This is awesome, you're like hardware+monitors unboxed, but for laptops. Any one of other mainstream laptop reviewers would have skipped any panel RGB, brightness testing and said "Oh yeah btw the colors are good to my eye" or some other bs that means nothing to the tech savvy buyer. If this is the kind of content you're making I'm just going to binge watch all your stuff just out of entertainment value. Love from Turkey, much respect!
Almost grabbed for 650 on Facebook. Thanks for making this.
This hater lol in this world are people who play on a 10 years old laptop and dream to have a laptop like this one c rich kids ...
If you dream for a laptop like this then get better dreams
I don't understand how this is hating, this is a review channel. If you have the money and saved up enough to buy a laptop might as well be well informed.
I can't believe I only chanced upon this review channel recently! Awesome content. More power to you! Hope your channel takes off!
great review, hinge point well taken, also like that you don't have affiliate amazon links. subbed
TH-cam has been trying to spoon-feed me this video for the past week in my recommended. I am not in the market for a laptop nor have I searched for anything particularly laptop related. I finally decided to give this a watch and I am very pleasantly surprised at the quality of this review. You went very in-depth with the build quality, thermals and the performance of this thing. This video was very informative and entertaining. I am surprised your channel is relatively small considering the effort put in to this video. I just want to say keep up the good work. I'm excited to see what else you put out.
I had a GS70 Stealth from 2016 that was about as terrible designed, and it cost $1600 back then. The hinge wasn’t great, the trackpad deteriorated within the first year, and the lid appeared to be made out of stamped aluminum. It’s ultimate demise came when I sent it back for a failed wifi card, and it was destroyed by USPS. I was mad about it then, but honestly they did me a favor…
This is what a true review looks like! Subscribed!
I've got a Legion 5 2021 version and this thing is indestructible. After 20+ disassembles the only thing that broke was a heatsink thread because of my own stupidity.
Also I fell on a concrete floor backpack first with laptop in it, the plastic corner deformed af, a lid had a hairline crack, so I just super glued it together and straightened the corner with heat and sanding. Still holds together like a champ.
Super well-made and useful review! Don't ever change! Only improve!
I had the gl63 series back in 2018, and now the body & hinges are literally shattered into pieces
Clean, relay of info was fast, efficient and clear. Incredibly well done and subbing for more.
My first gaming laptop a Legion 5 2021. Got to be honest is far better than I ever realised.
I agree with the Problems, i worked in a repair shop and 1 of the most common problems are the hinges, because these device dont have spare parts available for their life span in Germany, we had to glue the hinges with epoxy resin. I hate so many notebooks and their design, Lenovo Yoga for example was not repairable, if it broke, dont repair it was my advice.
I bought this laptop for officework and very light gaming, I have no complaints on this laptop
I have been putting this video off for a long time now, but even then TH-cam kept shoving it down my throat every single time on the homepage. I'm glad it did.
I appreciate an unbiased view on this stuff. Earned my subscribe. Keep it up mate
I bought one in 2023 and love it. No hinge problem whatsoever (they fortified them starting 2022). 11th gen i5, 3050 16gb ram. Ran elden ring at 50, red dead at 60, even badly optimized games like total war.
ah, just discovered this channel. I positively adore your attention to detail. no stone unturned, etc
My first gaming/school laptop was an MSI with an AMD processor and an ATI graphics card back in 2005. It had terrible hinges, and they broke apart in about 2 years. I see things have not changed.
Bloody hell, someone talking about things I actually care about on a laptop: build quality, engineering issues, power delivery, and cooling. Definitely subscribing.
As someone who spent ten years repairing laptops I can truly appreciate this review. The shear disregard for engineering hinges that won't break is astonishing. From asus and hp where the base screw mounts would always disintegrate from normal use. TO msi as well as hp plus others where the lcd back hinge screw mounts were flimsy or even worse the plastic mounting piece only held to the metal back by a single thin line of glue. JB weld become my best friend. Having to reconstruct a mounting point for the hinge since parts were either not available or grossly overpriced. Let alone all these laptop manufacturers deciding that adhesive was a good decision for how to hold a laptop together rather than screws.
share your opinion about its body build and thermal processing....please...is it durable???...should i get it?
This channel is definitely for those dealing with the laptop repair. Top quality content.
My Asus Gen 1 Zephyrus Series laptop (gv501vik) circa 2017 had an unrecalled yet faulty battery, annoying features that used to be controllable by software but were no longer supported, and when I finally opened it up after working at a tech business, one of the adhesive for the fans to connect to the heatsink fins LITERALLY HAD THE CLEAR PLASTIC COVER ON IT STILL.
6 YEARS, NEVER CONNECTED ADHESIVELY FROM THE FACTORY
Thank you, Asus
One of the most thorough reviews i've ever seen of a laptop. Most never even talk about the mosfet power phases or they're cooling.
its pretty easy to make a review about the laptop in performance in gaming and just the general fell of it but you went WAY above and beyond going all into the build quality and part numbers and the parts used the bios and firmware and still going into the regular performance well done.
I got one of these for £300, not had a single issue regarding build quality.. I think you may be forgetting that anyone buying one of these is doing so for the incredibly cheap price whilst still having specs that can maintain 60fps in some modern games and aren't necessarily expecting the best build quality that you would get from a £1000 laptop... also mine doesn't have the hinge issue you made a section about... seems pretty solid and had it for a year so far of constant use whilst travelling
very on point review, very hard to find these on youtube these days
one of the best laptop reviewers out there, thanks for the great video
the most detailled review at youtube. TOP tier content. +Subscriber
I appreciate the absolute blunt honesty here. You’ve gotten a new sub from me.
Where's my "Scratches at a Level 6, with deeper grooves at a Level 7"?
Ohh wait...
Thank you for review, I have bought it and I'm very happy!😊
I will be honest...I've been daily driving this laptop for more than couple years...i5 10th gen with 1650 max-q, it does have thermal issues...sometimes throttling but I never really had issues with the hinge until now...idk if it's the older build quality or something. My GPU has 4GB vram with 30W power draw...it does thermal throttle in AAA titles but it does run most of them at 60FPS medium - high settings...I will recommend this laptop to anyone who has low money and still want to get good enough performance. But the single fan they include does not provide much cooling...it maxes at 7300RPM which is loud but can be avoided with good headphones. I never had any hardware issues with it even after couple+ years of usage other than thermal throttling after 2 year mark...reapplying thermal paste for CPU and GPU and some thermal pads for vrams is recommended after that mark...Great video...!
Update: I have reapplied thermal paste after 2 years and reapplied thermal pads, cleaning everything...the Temps are way lower now...64C - cpu and under 80C - GPU while playing Forza Horizon 5 - All High settings 1080p - 85-90 FPS (if your temps are low enough you can get the boost clock kick in from 990Mhz to around 1750Mhz). I do run games on HDD so we can improve it more but the 10th gen GF63 is performing good enough even it has single fan.
Keep up all-around honest reviews and you have a loyal subscriber.
very thorough review! man that was insane thank you for this.
watching this on my MSI GF63 i5 9th gen gtx 1650. works fine after 3 years of usage. does a ok job on 3d rendering and game development