Alien Romulus Symbolic Red Flags? Plus Lab Analysis
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Alien Romulus Symbolic Red Flags? Plus Lab Analysis video.
Thanks for tuning in you fine people and fans of the Alien franchise. In this video I discuss some of the symbolic meaning related to mythology in yet another Alien movie and also analyse the new lab image that is a little revealing you could say. Hope you enjoy and please remember that I seek to be objective in my thoughts and am not trashing the movie as I haven't seen it yet. I honestly wish the best for this film as I would love a great Alien movie but I have also been disappointed far too many times.
00:00 Introduction
03:25 The Wolf Symbolism
08:06 Lab Analysis
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Let me know if you agree or whether you like the symbolism relating to mythology. Again, let's hope this film is good when it hits in August, I want nothing else. I can just sadly see the potential for Romulus to go the same path as many are flops in the past. Either way, subscribe if you want those future updates as well as other videos and stay safe guys and girls.
I don’t mind the symbolism thing, I’m sure they’ll explain it more in the film or maybe not, if the movie is good I don’t think anyone will really care about an underlying theme or message.
@@ArcanumAscent it's so weird they didn't explore it as you say. I can only imagine that the writers work under the assumption that they are telling a portion of a continued story when they produce these scripts. Then the studio scraps that idea and hires another writer, hence the lack of continuity.
@@shawnbyers6291 if the film is actually good then I'll be a happy man as you say 😁
I'm afraid the She-Wolf is that damn Ridley (Raised by wolves) Scott pushing his BS ... has everyone forgotten Dan O'Bannon masterminded Alien?
Yeah, possibility fur coat and no nickers. Trying to give the impression of a cleverly written, deep story when all we might get is AVP. I'm trying to keep those thoughts out of my head and hope it's going to be a good addition to the series.
Along with many of the important issues you discuss, for me, the words "young cast" may ultimately matter most. Only one of the main actors (David Jonsson) is even 30; the rest are mid-20's. Let's think about that: A bunch of wet-behind-the-ears characters are somehow experienced enough to command a ship out to the far reaches of space. And then proceed to get themselves into a bit of trouble, with their parents safely back on earth golfing. That alone compromises the plot right out of the gates. It didn't need a geriatric captain figure, but it's hard to imagine this group pulling us in the way a proper suspense sci-fi cast should.
My thoughts as well. I hope it is not the case but it may end up pulling us into an unwanted landscape of teen drama and all the chippings that come with that. The crew of the Nostromo were flawless because you believed they just wanted to get home and get on with there already well lived lives. If Romulus is all about young adults with their insatiable need to explore then.... no thanks.
I love Alien and Aliens, I also really like Alien 3. Imo, they could have made Alien 3 without any of the same characters from the second movie. A random ship with an Alien crash lands on the prison planet and you know the rest... I would also be fine with the studios suggesting Alien 3 was another one of Ripleys bad dreams in cryosleep. When it comes to Romulus it's easy for me. If it is a success then it's canon for me, if it fails, it's in the same category as everything else Alien... Which is to say, Interesting but not part of my Alien universe :)
Great insight. If they had gone that route then it would have meant the story could have been continued with Ripley, Newt and Hicks. I'm also with you on Romulus. If it's good then I'll accept it as canon also. If it is mediocre and also ties in existing characters and connective tissue to Alien and Aliens then I'm gonna get irritated haha
Cognitive dissonance reduction 😂
I also apply it to the terminator franchise
Unauthentic repetition is the historical bane of all film making. I'm catching more catering vibes than I am originality for this one. No matter how 'craftfully' it's made it is what it is. When I want to see Aliens again I watch Aliens again.
The other issue is sometimes trailers completely misguide us and the end product may be vastly better. But for now, I'm also sharing in your vibes
I'm having a hard time being optimistic with Romulus, when the previous four movies have all been disastrous in their own way. Actually I can't think of a franchise that was any good after the 3rd episode.
Star Wars and Lord of The Rings? Oh wait.. 😔 I'm thinking of watching Alien 3 again as I'm sure all the hate that one received in the past will seem like nit picking compared to current releases.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEwatched 3rd one less then a month ago and those were my exact thoughts. Also if you get over the fact that newt and hicks are dead you can just enjoy the movie. It has its flaws, but its not as bad as people make it out to be.
@@grands0nz0rZ good to hear. I watched it countless times when I was in primary school and always felt it had a deep sadness to it, especially with the music. The premise of them being trapped on a prison colony with this thing and no weapons like the first film is genius in itself. Alien 4 though. I still don't know why Sigourney took that job on as she has way too much talent for that script
Alien 3 and 4 are still miles above Sci-fi cinema as a whole.
I just hope they have another scene in which a robot teaches another robot to play the flute. I don't know about you, but that's the only reason I watch these kinds of movies. To see white-blooded robots explore their creative side.
I believe the reason why im giving Romulus the benefit of the doubt is because Ridley isnt heavily responsible for the film nor directing it...Fede is. He understands this genre well and seems to be acutely aware of the lore and wanted to get back to basics. Practical effects, claustrophobia, amp the horror aspects, and serve new and terrifying alien scenes we havent explored before.
Well, time will tell. You do make some very valid points and if Fede had a larger résumé I would know better what he has in store. I like some of his films very much but I think this will be his real chance to show the world what he is capable of, whether it be success or failure. Let's hope for the best
you seem traumatized by Prometheus and Covenant lol
Hehe, nahh, just a little annoyed we had greatness mixed with stupidity sadly. I did like many parts of those films, however.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEyou ain't talking about the stupidity of the humans landing on a random planet without any protection like breathing apparatus are you? 😂😂😂
I would be more concerned if it wasn't Fede Alvarez. He's already shown that he can balance respect and deference to an OG film while at the same time bringing a new vision to the core elements. No guarantee it will work as well with Alien as it did with Evil Dead, but his previous work gives him enough cred for me to be interested in seeing what he does with Romulus.
That's a very fair point of course. I suspect this film will make or break him in terms of showing us really what he is capable of. Hope it works out as this franchise needs some love and care right now hehe
Ok so first of all there is a huge space station not a spaceship. The teaser trailer shows only scenes from the space station, and by the looks of it, we can safe assure say that the movie will take part 100% inside the space station and not on some forgotten planet like the prequels, and there’s a whole lot of fun and movie making you can do in there, I bet! Get your hopes up man, it’s Fede Alvarez we’re talking about here… he knows his stuff and promised us from his interview a lot of gory scenes which brings it back to the older films. His take like every other director David Fincher and Jean-Pierre Jeunet other than Scott and Cameron they have all expressed their vision a bit differently to be like a fresh wind and for what it’s worth this film will give us smth to look forward to. I already know this film will be a 10+ just you see!
I hope you're right man, I really do 😊
I think they need to have an interdimensional war between the mice of Hitchhikers and the space hamsters of LV-426.
All i wanna do is whine 🙂 So i deleted my lengthy comment and instead i'll just say; i got a bad feeling about this drop.
Hopefully it's just simulated....
You always say that, you always say I got a bad feeling about this drop..
I have a feeling the Romulus name will be less intrusive than those of Prometheus. More like using Nostromo, Sulaco and Patna and leaving the origin of the names up to the audience to find out and make connection to the meaning of the film overall. At least I hope.
You could well be right. That would leave us with a good sense of mystery. However, we would all moan for a sequel if they leave us guessing too much 😉
Subbed for your snappy commentary. My fingers crossed that ARom can deliver something special and avoid any Ridley infections.
Much appreciated my friend, let's hope for the best dude.
There was a leaked script of Elizabeth Shaw exploring the derelict at LV-426, and discovering that the pilot was not an Engineer, but a fossilized creature from an ancient civilization. She realizes the Engineers stole their technology. The space jockey is still considered, as something to be revisited again. There's an article of Ridley Scott expressing his sentiment of the pilot.
That's a bit of great news right there. Thanks for sharing that as I never knew it had been considered. It also places the xenomorph much further back as well then, especially as the fossil had suffered a chest burst. The question is though, WILL it ever be explored?
Great points, I'm going to heed your warnings and keep my expectations in check. I'm going to try and avoid the trailer for 4 months, the teaser absolutely sold me. The shots I've seen look incredible, the artists and production crew have really hit it out of the park.
I agree that it all visually looks amazing. I'll absolutely do a full trailer breakdown so try to avoid that also 😉
Hi, good video.. my one wish (apart from a decent film) is that nobody survives, let’s just have a cast that are good and the viewer care for them but ultimately it doesn’t end well for any of them..
I would prefer that instead of then going full Ripley and lining up sequels with the same woman. Hopefully it will be a decent enough one off story. Cheers and take care
All we need to know about this new film is that international audiences wouldn't give big returns, and domestic audiences would be confused or offended by the realistic, believable characters in the original two films. Ripley having a maternal role towards a young girl is offensive, she can only be tough and scowl for instance. I think this movie will be all right, but if they're going back to retread old ground, the problem is that ground is no longer fertile so it'll just never be as good as it was. Maybe it'll be fine, but nowadays I don't see how it could be great. I think they're gonna play it too safe cos they're worried about returns.
Hehe, yeah safe is the issue with films today. Nothing gets explored with safe and everything comes bubble wrapped and pristine. Let's see what the full trailer brings us
Based on the title, we all should be concerned. Romulus was the founder of Rome, and he had a twin named Remus. Romulus killed Remus over a disagreement on where to build the city. The two were a miraculus birth, being that the father is the Roman god Mars. You know... the god of war. You notice that the movie's name isn't Remus; it's Romulus, the twin who lived.
So I'm gonna call it right here. This film is set between Alien and Aliens. We're gonna find out that Weyland-Yutani actually created the Xenomorph as we see in Aliens. Romulus is going to retcon how the Xenos overtook Hadley's Hope. The first four movies all stated that Human interests have been wanting to research the Xenomorph for use as a weapon. And that falls in line with the Prometheus and Covenant black goo. Using the She-Wolf in Weyland-Yutani corporate symbols is a little too on-the-nose. The original Xenomorph being directly from a god of war, and Weyland-Yutani being the She-Wolf raising that Xenomorph (bioweapons research) into the "perfect weapon". And of course, it has to go wrong somehow, otherwise we wouldn't have a rehash of young people running scared aboard a defunct space station. I'll even go so far as to say that the station is orbiting Calpamus. As Renny Harlan said when he was trying to write a script treatment for Alien 3, "we seem to keep circling the same premise".
The very idea I laid out is the safe bet for the studio. Isolation was a huge hit and everybody including their grandma has been saying "huuuuu we so need a sequel movie to Isolation" so, be careful what you wish for because you just may get it. Studios are creatively bankrupt which is why they keep chasing whatever trend was around last week. Alien doesn't need a "franchise", it stands on its own two feet as a great horror/sci-fi thriller. And Prometheus would have been fine if the characters had more depth and if that story wasn't tied at all to Alien. Just.... make something different and don't tie it to something that's already great.
Amazingly written description and analysis there, thanks for that. You may have hit home to many truths both about events in the film and absolutely with your comments about the studios bankrupt ideas. Will be interesting if the full length trailer sheds any light on your thoughts.
Weyland Yutani being the creators of the Xenomorph makes no sense since in every entry they want the Alien to make it into a weapon. I think it maybe Weyland Yutani experimenting on the Xenomorph.
I’m excited for it.
Surely it’s got to be better than anything that’s come since 1986 😂
It may not have the mature theme of Alien 3 but it might be a better movie if that makes sense? I just hope my worries are gonna be proved wrong.
That quote "The trick, William Potter ..." is the most memorable, and perhaps best part when you include the actual clip, of the prequals - how sad is that 🙂
Haha. Yeah you could say it was a welcome distraction... 🤔
I was pumped for Prometheus, hanging on every sliver of information for months, but the penny started dropping not too long before release. I came to enjoy it on rewatching on DVD though. It looks and sounds gorgeous.
I gather there is a CGI Ash in this new film, which if true would make the salvage kids something akin to Nostromo: The New Generation (like S Club Juniors were to S Club 7) which is just the sort of yoof-reaching initiative that would thrill Old Man Scott seeking his franchise's rejuvenation whilst hidden away on his last legs at the back of the film.
interesting you found Prometheus better after release as for me it was the other way around. Then again, I haven't seen it in some time. Funny analogy with the pop group I have to say though. As long as they keep Ridley on earth he can still make great movies but enough with Alien already. Although The Martian was amazing though.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE just occurred to me: what if Romulus derives from or alludes to the newly-merged Weyland-Yutani enterprise, with both former arms' researchers trying to outdo the other in the labs?
@@fannyblancmange4709 I can't remember what I said in some of the videos but I think that could be closer to the truth. It may have something to do with the experiment and the company evolution but it should be clearer once we get a full length trailer perhaps I hope.
What the symbology of the title tells me is there's gonna be some red hot Alien on Alien action as our heroes unleash the big chap on the newcomer that results from Wayland Yutani's experiment and they try and escape in the chaos probably to end up in a final confrontation with the victor
Alien Vs Alien Vs young adults...
I hope the score is good, it’s an overlooked aspect of movies today. But the original alien score added to the horror and the aliens score added to the action. Movies in the 70’s and 80’s had great orchestra soundtracks, that just broadened the scope of the films, ET, Close Encounters, Poltergeist, Star Wars, Star Trek, all come to mind. Hopefully this one has a good score as well.
Jerry Goldsmith was one of the true legends in that regard. Glad you brought this up. I certainly don't want to hear uplifting dramatic music every time a character escapes a bad situation like in Covenant lol
We are human, there's no other way we can link things, if the things their doing have connections to Romulus and Remus it's human nature to link them together, we do it with space/sea/aircraft it's how we work. I have no problems with this symbolism, yes I'm trepidatious about this film but I've only heard and seen pretty good things, I like the evil dead remake despite it not really being the same evil dead I was used to it was a nice new take. Fede is good at setting up tense horror so I trust him, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, I'll admit it lol
Well said and yes historically we do love stories and romance and we've always named our ships etc. Same here, if I'm wrong, I'll also admit it and I do hope the film is a triumph. I liked the Don't Breathe films more than his Evil Dead but I agree that he does no know how to make suspense. Fingers crossed. Hopefully the next trailer will give us a better idea on these elements
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE thanks for the good reply, it's annoying that we haven't had decent alien film since resurrection, and that only scraped by in my books, 1 and 2 though are masterpieces in their fields. Can fede make it stand next to them probably not, can he make something that doesn't involve numbskulls who can't turn left or right when something's rolling in a straight line or poking every alien organism they see sans helmets? Probably lol, I know there's bigger flaws but those are stupidest in my eyes. had a few spoilers from that one screening that sounded good too, its as good as resurrection without odd Ripley baby ill be happy i think
Yeah we'll probably hear more from those screenings as time goes on but if we get another trailer this month then that should give us a true impression of many aspects of the film.
9:00 the ceiling looks like a vulva and the cylindrical tube looks like a cervix. So you might actually be right about something gestating in the tube.
Haha, great minds think alike I see 😉😉😉
I dont have any problem with the movie being a gore-fest. It will then be the flipside to Prometheus. Which had next to no gore.
Gore + relatable characters is a must. Story can be secondary for me at this stage
But why would you even have "bloody socks " on? 🤔
Well, I don't live on the beach 🙃
I feel the Alien looks clunky. The jaw and dome lack that sexy contour of Giger's original design. Why is this design so hard to maintain
I think how the xenomorph in Covenant was maybe the worst it has looked just because of the CGI. They isn't much consistency I agree though. I loved how they looked in Aliens even though the creepiness was not as present as it was in ALien.
Bet the farm it's just another teen slasher movie... The most interesting thing that happened with the franchise was Prometheus with the Engineers stuff, but that was destroyed in that Convenant flop.
If it is just that, a slasher. Then it better have some damm good scares and practical effects at the very least.
To be fair, alien had the Solomons a region located on the edge of colonized space.
Well the titans novel river of pain expands on the moon the derelict was found on Acheron being from Roman myth for the river of pain.
Alien3 explored Christian themes and the fourth film the ship the auriga was named after a hellnestic story.
So the whole romulus thing does not worry so much if anything I liked the preview for Prometheus far more then what I am seeing thus far with romulus.
My concern is if it's going to have the same slow burn tension and gritty realism as the first.
On a brightside the retro futurism (cassette futurism look seen in alien and isolation predominantly is back.
Yeah good points and yes it all looks tantalising which is a plus but I sense it won't have the slow burn as the first, however. I think the horror and action will start quickly as it is Fede. As long as it's a tense ride then fine I guess. If it is a good film, I expect it to fall somewhere in-between alien and aliens in terms of horror but I expect the action to be pretty intense.
Romulus looks good 👍
We shall see my friend 😉
"... Ridley Scott returning to his baby (ALIEN)" Stopping that right there. No, ALIEN is NOT Ridley Scott's "Baby", he only directed the film, he didn't write it, he didn't title it, he DIDN'T create ALIEN.
The creator of ALIEN was the late Dan O'Bannon, and Scott worked with O'Bannon during the film. Since O'Bannon had problems with the producers because they tried to steal creator rights from him, they wouldn't talk to him. As not just the writer but also the Supervising Visual Consultant, every time there was something that needed change or redesign, O'Bannon would point it out to Scott, and the latter would talk to the producers as if he was the one that came up with the ideas.
O'Bannon brought HR Giger to the production, he introduced him to Scott, mainly cause Giger was O'Bannon's inspiration to write the movie which he was prohibited to direct. So yeah, ALIEN is Dan O'Bannon's Baby, not Scott's. Scott is basically the Uncle of ALIEN.
You are right in terms of the people involved and what they contributed. However, Ridley brought it to life which is a completely different thing entirely. I cannot believe that anyone else could have done what Ridley did and if that is true then it doesn't matter what the other wrote or titled the film imo. That being said, I do absolutely respect what the other created and I should have included their contributions into the vid but then it would have been a 40 min video haha.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I get what you mean, yet my point is that Scott has taken all the credit, when in fact all of the stuff he did, was per the creator of ALIEN. Sure, he directed it, but with the vision and pointing of O'Bannon who was always on set in all of the departments. The producers put Scott on front to spite O'Bannon, and that is well documented, and Scott has ridden the train till this day as such. He is not a storyteller, said so by himself, and clearly shown on his last two films. This is why ALIEN was such a success, because he DIDN'T create it, he didn't write it, he directed it. And that is key, cause I think like you, if ROMULUS is going through Scott's vision and story, then we are in pure disappointment.
But there were recent news that bring hope, from ALIEN TV Series director Noah Hawley, based on Disney's orders and even Scott agreed. In essence, Scott's last two films are side stories, the Xenomorphs were not created by David nor anyone, they are an ancient natural species. And the Engineers and Space Jockeys are not related but are in the same universe. Look up Noah Hawley and his talk with Ridley Scott to avoid spamming your thread 🤣🤣🤣 and thanks for being so cool about this.
@@EternalRomanstill , he makes a good director , I love all his work
@@Streetrocker28 Never said that he wasn't a good director. His visuals are great, he makes bad movies look good. And that is the key, making a turd looking good doesn't make it anything else be what it is. But yeah, good director and I love most of his movies.
@@EternalRoman Oh yeah, I actually did a recent vid on the tv series and am much more hopeful about that. I understand you better now and I should really watch those old documentaries again. I agree that Ridley has made a bit of a throne for himself with Alien and it was the collaboration that made it great of course. What angers me about Ridley is the lack of credit he cannot give Cameron for Aliens. I know it was vastly different but that's how it should be. imitation is a form of flattery but innovation is better and that's What Aliens was for a sequel.
I sense that we are on the same page with Romulus but in my vid where I talk about the pros and cons of the Alien series I talk about how Noah Hawley request control of the story and that it had to be a prerequisite of doing it in the first place. Scott still lingers as a producer as you say but hopefully he'll keep his distance as we need a modern O'Bannon to inject some life back into the franchise would you agree? 😁
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we need to see a new kind of xenomorph .... maybe we'll meet the Xenomorph King, and see more of the engineers... Its a big universe much more could be out there?
If going by nature, I bet the queen will still be more dominant than any xeno king hehe
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE every time I see an alien movie it's a old same old stuff.. Prometheus was probably the most interesting out of them all... The engineer's and we finally got to see that juggernaut spaceship
What they have been showing looks promising, but then I remembered that Disney is making it.
For most people it always comes back to Disney and I get that but they did give us Andor which I thought was outstanding. But then, everything else....
About Prometheus "It never truly felt like an Alien film to me>" ......ummmmmm, yeah. That was the idea.
The Deacon was the only alien in it and he had all but 8 seconds of glory...
I get that was the idea, but it was a bad idea, you put the film in the alien universe, use the ship, the engineer/space jockey, company name and characters…it’s all alien, but not. If they had just put a xeno or two on the Prometheus after it burst out of Fifield and Millburn it would’ve been 100x’s better.
@@shawnbyers6291 I don't see how it is a bad idea, but of course you are entitled to your opinion. But in my opinion, i liked Prometheus a lot. It took the Alien universe and made it even larger. Ridley Scott didn't want to just make another Alien. He is right when he said the xenomorphs had a good run. 4 movies, plus the AVP movies, comics, etc. He wanted to do something original within the same specs and he pulled it off nicely. Yes, the ship and Weyland industries is a dead giveaway that it is an Alien movie. But at the same time Bladerunner is also in the same universe as Alien. Dan O'bannon and Ron Shusett created Alien but Ridley Scott made it even bigger. He took a small cramped story and turned it into a universe, and Prometheus definitely expanded the universe. I mean, there are whole comic books (Prometheus: fire and stone, Aliens: fire and stone, AVP: fire and stone, etc.). All of that from Ridley Scotts vision of Prometheus. He wanted to expand it even further in Alien: Covenant but people complained and complained about there not being and Xenomorphs, and i get it. But because of those complaints, he changed the movie and made it in the way the fans wanted. Yet they still complained. I have more of a problem with Alien Covenant than i do with Prometheus. If either movie was a bad idea, it is definitely Covenant. With Alien Romulus, it expands it even further because Fede Alvarez consulted with RS a lot, and there is a lot of his inspiration in the movie and i think we will get answers to some of the questions i know i had about certain things that happened in Prometheus and covenant. But like i said, you are entitled to your opinion. I'm a massive fan of the whole Alien mythos and i can't wait for more.
@@N0rseman Prometheus was definitely better than covenant, but it just could’ve been way better. I hear you about expanding the universe but I just don’t think it’s what alien fans wanted. Resurrection wasn’t good, the Alien vs Predator films were terrible, people have been wanting a good Alien film since Aliens. Alien 3 is not what the majority of fans wanted, although I liked it. It’s just been a miss with everything Alien related beyond that. Alien fans have just been starved for a good claustrophobic sci-FI horror film with our favorite antagonistic creatures. They need to stop overthinking it, and go back to what worked.
@@shawnbyers6291 I agree with the overthinking. I did like Alien Resurrection only because it was fun to watch but when it comes to the lore and the story, it was crap. Same with Alien 3. I had a very hard time with that one. You are definitely right when it comes to the fans wishing for something good. I loved prometheus but it wasn't an Alien story. It has been about 35 years or so since we had a decent Alien movie? I am excited for Alien Romulus for one reason, and that is Ridley Scott saying "Its fucking great". It isn't often that Ridley gives a thumbs up to something, especially and Alien movie because he is the one that made the first ever Alien and he is the reason Alien fans exist. But i do hold a healthy amount of reserve. Sort of hope for the best prepare for the worst.
RESTYLED 1979. WHAT'S THE NEW?
Like always, if the scripts is good and you root for the characters you will care if they die. If the xenos are like those in alien and aliens where you believe the xeno actually might be real it could be scary. If the monster isnt scary it will 100% fail.
Couldn't agree more 💯 I'll take being scared at the very least.
I think is a another SciFi Horror.Its good but we Alien Nerds wait years for answers for the philosphical,religion and our creatots.Wait for another couple of yeras
We've definitely been waiting, that's for sure
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6th?
You ask what could make it scarier. To me, that would be Weyland-Yutani corpos worshipping the xenomorph. Corporate cultists with infinite power and wealth would scare me.
Very Dead Space if you ever played the game. Yeah some secret faction within the company that were fanatics would be cool.
I did see some xeno cultists in Alien Dark Descent.
Sounds like I will have to try Dead Space
@@Grogeous_Maximus it's what you described and an equally horrifying experience as Alien Isolation but instead it is a first person shooter if that's is your thing. The concept matches your ideas though
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but why did the Alien cross the road?
@4:50 Itsnot philosophical, it's occult. Most people are religious and superstitious. They keep throwing in occult and biblical references to capture that audience. Hollywood is about money. That's what ruined Sstar Wars. Wake up, son.
I feel like most ppl have drifted away from religion these days tbh. I see what you are saying about hollywood's clickbait tactics and I feel that was sort of the point I was making in terms of the film not having any legs and therefore they apply the heavy link to some greater meaning like the Romulus mythology. I think we are on the same page? 🤨
I know what might make this film scarier: A classic xenomorph chest burster making a surprise appearance from somewhere unexpected. 😁
AHH you mean making use of an existing entrance/exit? Why not? Haha
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Yeah. In 'Alien Covenant' one burst from someone's back. There are other places!
It will be terrifying if its any good.
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Alien need a male lead for once. I am tired of Ripley copy. Especially when the actress is not even close to be as good as Signey was.
Hard to find decent male leads these days also. Most are either too buff and model looking or are too young and nerdy in appearance. We need a modern day Tom Skerritt ;)
Compare Dan O' Bannon and Ronald Shusett's *alien 1979* to Ridley Scott's Prometheus and Covenant and you can see there's this bewildering dumbing down of characters in Ridley's made up of a crew of specialists while Dan's conveys professional reasonable actions from a commercial drilling crew that aren't even scientific.
I don't understand Ridley Scott.
That's a very good point. Very misplaced interlectually I would say. Although, if any crew, scientists or not are operating a space ship then I would assume rational behaviour and common sense would be traits of both as you say. I guess when making The Martian he had a better script?
The teaser was not really impressive. Maybe because it is just a teaser. But the idea of a bunch of teenagers being chased by the xenomorph is not very engaging. Please leave all elements from the original alone. Do not bring the big chap back, even if it is dead.
You're right about the teaser as we really do need a full length to see what's happening
Prometheus was Great.
Not the best Alien film by a long shot, but its definitely grown on me.
Especially with all the horrible woke crap with shitty CGI SFX we've gotten over the past 7 years.
That's what I fear this will be,
Just more Disney 🐂💩.
The theme of Prometheus is incredible don't get me wrong. The only thing stopping me from watching it again are those ridiculous mistakes the crew got up to. There was no professionalism from what should have an elite group of astronauts working for the most powerful company on earth.
Look, ALIEN ROMULUS can be summed up in 1 one shot - chick w/ a pulse rifle. ALIEN 3 was killed by liberal freak Weaver, who as producer demanded the movie have no guns - ergo the prison crap, the running around a leadworks, the killing off of the last solder-survivor Hicks and Ridley. She suicided the franchise for that era. Ridley Scott later got drunk w/ the mythology as Lucas did w/ STAR WARS. That's when you fuck up a good simple formula by, I dunno, making the mysterious metaphysical FORCE into just microbiology. #1 the Engineers were nowhere near as large as the mysterious one in ALIEN. #2 it all sucked. Open an ALIEN movie w/ roided out E.T.s seeding Earth w/ all its life from their bodies? Sorry ppl, that's a whole other sci-fi movie.
Chick with a pulse rifle. It's like a great NIRVANA song. CHORUS... Solo CHORUS... bad solo. It's so simple but effective. This will be EVIL DEAD and DON'T BREATHE in space. I'm ready. This is FURY ROAD - just repeat MAD MAX and ROAD WARRIOR. You want to see ROAD WARRIOR redone, not THUNDERDOME.
As long as it is just a chick with a pulse rifle, and not leaning towards an angel with a shotgun - keep the biblical stuff well clear.
@@ITSREALLYNOTYOURFAULT We had an ALIEN 3 movie with a prisoner and self-sacrificing heroine on a weird planet that was awesome - it was called PITCH BLACK.
I didn't mind the prisoners in A3 and I thought the actors were just utterly fantastic - but you have to bring the fear. Fincher's fish-eye "alien vision" camerawork, the twerky alien (CGI and puppet alike), and the single alien whipping through dozens of characters makes the characters and their showdown meaningless. You want to keep it to an ensemble cast with the clock running down fast.
Frankly, just looking at the kill count of A3 from a website, it's laughable. They could have all just ganged up on it with spears. Half these deaths don't even register:
Murphy: Acid to face, chopped up in fan - 31 mins in
Rains: Killed by alien - 43 mins in
Boggs: Head or throat bitten by alien - 44 mins in
Clemens: Headbitten by alien - 56 mins in
Superintendent Andrews: Pulled into ceiling & killed by alien - 58 mins in
Frank: Killed by alien - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #1: Exploded to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #2: Exploded to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #3: Exploded to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #4: Exploded to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #5: Exploded to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #6: Burnt to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #7: Burnt to death in fire - 1 hr 6 mins in
Inmate #8: Burnt to death in fire - 1 hr 7 mins in
Inmate #9: Burnt to death in fire - 1 hr 7 mins in
Vincent (?): Found being eaten (and kinda humped?) by alien - 1 hr 27 mins in (found)
Troy: Killed by alien offscreen - 1 hr 30 mins in
David: Head bitten by alien - 1 hr 31 mins in
Kevin: Bitten on the neck by alien - 1 hr 33 mins in
Eric: Found dead by Ripley (Killed by Alien) - 1 hr 34 mins in
William: Found dead by Ripley (killed by Alien) - 1 hr 34 mins in
Jude: Killed by alien - 1 hr 35 mins in
Gregor: Throat fucked up by alien - 1 hr 36 mins in
Dillon: Nommed on by alien, melted in lead - 1 hr 40 mins in
Lt. Ellen Ripley: Suicidal sacrifice via molten lead - 1 hr 47 mins in (really killed by Alien Queen Embryo)
The size comparison of the engineers to the biomechanical space jockey was a real let down for sure. Always still bugs me today
Aliens the best battling with troops why not make more like that these 1 alien chasing 6 crew members is getting repetitive 🥱