The Island of Dr Moreau - The Most Disastrous Movie Ever Made
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2020
- In a change of pace today, I thought it would be a laugh to take a look at one of the most infamously troubled productions in Hollywood history - the disaster that is The Island of Dr Moreau.
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Nah, Wonder Woman 1984 will make this look like Citizen Kane
That's Aries from the Wonder Woman movie
Would like to see you do reviews of "DarkCity," Guy Ritchies' "The Gentlemen" and "Fury Road."
"But Drinker, you suave Scot social media scholar, why didn't you and your immortal liver mention the Conqueror from 1956 in which John Wayne played Genghis Khan and was filmed on a nuclear test site that gave the cast and crew radiation exposure and cancer, I hear you say" Yes Drinker, I'll go away now!
How about doing a review of Looper? It'd be interesting to see if you think Rian Johnson has made at least one good film.
They need to make a movie about the making of this movie.
I think there is one, I just read above in the comments about a movie called ‘Lost Soul’ about this movie’s director.
They did actually....Tropic Thunder...who would have known that the "making of" movie was actually leagues better than the movie itself!
They did. It's called "Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau".
It is called Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau. Fantastic documentary chronicling the entire disastrous project; as well as highlighting just how much crap the studio was giving Stanley that made him end up leaving Hollywood all together. Though at least he returned with the pretty good Color Out of Space. Oh yeah, he did manage to sneak back on set as a dog man extra for a few shots.
Seleendria this is fantastic, it’s on prime too. Immediately put it on my watch list.
They set out to make ‘The Island of Doctor Moreau’ but the cast and crew ended up making Heart of Darkness and Lord of the Flies instead.
you forgot Tropic Thunder.
coincidentally with the star of the original adaptation of Heart of Darkness
*that's what i got while watching this really strange film...once*
They both Star Marlon Brando as an overweight bald lunatic.
I think you've just described Hollywood. ;)
The director having a meltdown, shredding everything and running off into the jungle is freaking insane!!!
I love how he returned in disguise just for a scene where he gets to destroy the set🤣
Him sneaking into the party to tell off Kilmer is pretty hilarious too.
Some say that it wasn't a disguise and that the guy devolved into a creature whilst alone in the jungle. Some say that he can be seen caged at a zoo in Bucharest to this very day. 🐺🐺🐺
I’m thinking of the director as the flakey photojournalist (Dennis Hopper) in ‘Apocalypse Now’ who is last see dodging a book thrown by Kurtz (Brando) yelling, “you mutt!”. Some movie parallels here, a mash up in the works?
@@michaelemory552 LOL bril
Was the tiny little man by chance inspiration for mini me for Austin Powers’s Dr. evil??
Brando being fascinated by a dwarf, repeating police chatter and wearing an ice bucket on his head is beyond everything.
😂😂😂
*"If I made a movie about Val Kilmer's life, I wouldn't hire Val Kilmer."* a quote from the director of this trainwreck of a film 😂🤣
Kilmer vs Brando sounds like the WWE match up we need.
i can't imagine what it must be like to be in movie hell on the other side of the world, turn on a TV and see your wife announce that she wants a diverse. Talk about a nut shot!!
@Projekt:Kobra The Tombstone performance was great, not winning an Oscar was just Karma coming back to even things up.
@@matthew1882 Celebrity Deathmatch
Matt of rejects. Brando wearing an ice bucket says it all. Just how moronic actors are. Role models. Bwahahaha
So, it's basically real-life Tropic Thunder.
🧐
That's a good film
×10
With Marlin Brando's own mini me
Never go full Brando!
Val Kilmer being chucked off the set the minute he was finished has still got me laughing.🤣🤣🤣
Or that one guy sneaking back onto set just to tell Kilmer how much of a prick he is.
Lol. That too. I wonder how many other people had revenge planned, and foiled, as his feet were levitated out the door?@@redpillfreedom6692
How can one be thrown off set by security yet still be invited to the wrap party. Sounds like the Drinker has his facts mixed up
Imagine being James Woods hearing about the movie's continuously cataclysmic production back in the States and being so effin' relieved and thankful to have dodged a bullet of these proportions.
Today I found out where the idea of Dr Evil and Mini-Me came from.
Not really.
If you’ve seen Dr. No and multiple James Bond movies it makes sense.
Tho Dr. Mephisto from South Park came from this shite movie.
@@Vometbomb yes really, first austin movie filmed in 96 lmao
@@Vometbomb attaching asses like a middle finger to god
@@NovaPtl no dude. Austin powers was inspired by James Bond
@@Insanepie There's multiple references to other movies and various medias from this era, like Jerry Springer of all things...
Damn, the making of this movie sounds way more epic than the actual movie
There should be a movie about making this movie.
There's a documentary called "Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau" which is definitely worth checking out. After watching it I feel like if things had gone differently (mainly keeping the budget at $8 million, instead of some dickhead studio executive saying "let's cast Marlon Brando in the movie and increase the budget to $40 million") we could have gotten one of the all time sci-fi horror greats, right up there with Alien, the Terminator, the Thing, and Predator.
Fuck, the human/animal hybrids were supposed to have a drug and alcohol fueled orgy (in the movie, not real life, which is a very weird thing to think about) and one of them was going to bite Val Kilmer's dick off.
Ikr😂😂😂
@@Lucky_Chase I was thinking the same. Tommy Wiseau can direct.
@@CurtisAlfeld Great I will check that out I've always liked this movie because you can tell it had good intentions and I thought the acting was all round good with a solid story even if it was bizarre in places, although i haven't seen it for awhile (like years) so my opinion could change.
Fun fact there is a early South Park character that is entirely based on and inspired by this movie. It’s the doctor who makes weird animals, I haven’t seen him in a LONG time. The show came out in 1997 and he was a staple in the show for the first 4 seasons.
Gentlemen.....I give you.....the 5 assed monkey.
It's Dr. Mephisto...
Fairuza Balk's 2,500 km drive in a rented limousine from the remote Cairns area to Sydney airport deserves to be a movie of its own.
I love how the director was so determined to make this movie then when he got fired he tried to ruin the movie as much as he could
Its like Phantom of the Opera
And then it took him 25 years to make another movie...
Not his fault. He had no power as a newbie director. Brando blocked Roman Polansky to direct, which would've made incredible but would prob have seen getting fired early....
But he really didn’t. After Richard Stanley was fired, he stayed in the area of filming but the most he was involved was getting into a costume & being in the background of a few shots. If anyone tanked it, it was Brando or Kilmer. They used their star power to make insane changes to the film & made life miserable for everyone on set. There’s a whole documentary about it & it’s fascinating.
@@kreese-yi2nb a great movie though
I remember as a 6 year old crying because my brother wouldn't take me to see this film (1977) because he wanted to see some movie called Star Wars.
Say what? This movie came out in 1996
@@CoinBox170There was a 1977 version which also had Marlon Brando that was almost as bad.
@@MerkinMuffly Oh I didn't know that. Good on your brother for leading you down the right path
@@MerkinMuffly What was that film called?
@@benanderson3791
It was called the same thing, the island of doctor Moreau
Brando generally had lines fed to him for his later films, he also had them fed to him via an earpiece in Apocalypse now. Even before that, both Robert Duval and Richard Harris have said he had his lines written for him on big bits of cardboard so he could read them, as he hadn't memorised them.
He did that in Superman as well, with his lines strategically placed on signs around the sets where the cameras wouldn't see them. When he put baby Superman in the spaceship and gave his farewell speech, his lines were on the baby's diaper.
Man was trully a legend
@@witteafval 🤣🤣🤣
You know you're fucked when RICHARD FUCKING HARRIS of all people is the sane one in that instance.
@@witteafvalno way
I could never understand why I loved this movie despite it being obviously terrible. Now it all makes sense. A wretched bunch of creatures, desperate to escape, yet held in thrall to the whimsical schemes of eccentric egomaniacs…
…and i thought it was just good method acting 🍻
I still think it was intentional what went on. The movie is filled with weird and psycho characters bordering on insanity. In a jungle on a weird island.. I still think they got right into character by doing what they did,, back then they took it all in their stride,, the actors put themselves into the minds of these characters,, method acting was very much a thing back then,, back then theyd research the real world, theyd observe real people and learn to understand it before putting themselves into the character they were playing. Nowadays actors have come straight from a school camp. Brie Larson acts like Brie Larson for example,, she has one way of acting and shes unwilling and possibly incapable of learning how to play different characters.
While they experiment on island subjects😞 So familiar
The thought of an actress with a million dollar contract being led back on set by security after she tried to escape and probably in tears due to how messed up this all was is a hilarious and depressing image.
LMAO!!
The way she told the story later was that her agent explained to her that she would be blackballed by every studio if she left that contract.
Fairuza Balk is the only reason I sat through this entire movie
Well, Fairuza Balk makes some nice eye candy so there's that
Agreed.
That is hell for an actress
The bit about the hidden microphone picking up police transmissions and Brando repeating them as his lines killed me LOL 😂😂😂
😂
Apparently he shouts out "there's been a robbery at Woolworths!".....fucking priceless!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was pretty much director of his own scenes at this point.
Even better was Will (Drinker) cracking up. Unlike other times, you could tell it wasn't scripted.
@@IamFrozenUnderpants Definitely! :D
I saw this film as a child, never knew what it was called, could never find it anywhere afterwards, when describing it to people no one knew what I was talking about... I gave up and thought maybe i was confusing the memories with that of a bad fever dream or something... Well now I know what it is! Someone else's bad fever dream.
The idea of Fairuza trying to flee and being caught at the last minute is both hilarious and tragic
Brando shows up for the first day of filming, and he acted like the Brando of old. He lost some weight, he actually learned his lines, and was helping the other members of the cast transition from stage acting to film. He was actually invested in Richard Stanley’s vision for the project because he saw similarities between Dr. Moreau and his character Kurtz from Apocalypse Now. Unfortunately, his daughter committed suicide that night. A devastated Brando had to go back home. While he was gone, the script was heavily rewritten and part of the cast had been replaced. Worst of all, his character (the titular doctor) has been rewritten from a legitimate villain who knows what he’s doing is evil to an inept and sympathetic eccentric who doesn’t really know what’s happening on his own island. This caused Brando to sink into a deep depression he never really recovered from. When he came back, he was a mess. He had ballooned to almost 500 lbs., he refused to learn his new lines, and was combative with the new director. Somehow, he wasn’t the biggest pain in the ass on set.
@@jsat5609 uhhh that isn't even a clip from the island of dr moreau
@@deesnutz42069 No, It's Brando about 40 years before Moreau. 40 years will age anyone. But my point is Brando let himself go in the most extreme fashion I've ever seen to go from looking like this to what he looked like in his final years. Compare Brando to one of his contemporaries, like Paul Newman. Newman aged but still looked like Paul Newman. Brando aged, and he didn't even look like a human being.
Zachary Lewis I honestly think Brando is such a sad tragic story. Even well into his 50’s he was a gorgeous specimen of a man and his talent as an actor is unsurpassed. On the Waterfront is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think Brando was the original rebel without a cause never happy or comfortable in his own skin maybe that’s what made him such a great actor but not a very nice human being. His daughter’s suicide and son killing the boyfriend and going to jail was just too much for him. This movie aside which is actually pretty comical Brando left us with some incredible performances and I will always love him
HP Lovecraft On many occasions dating back to after Last Tango in Paris, Brando said he hated acting on film but couldn’t go back to the Broadway stage because they couldn’t afford him and his voice was too weak to carry to the back of the theatre (the primary reason he made the switch to acting on film). According to him, the last time he enjoyed his work was when he did Julius Caesar in 1953. No wonder he became a wreck.
There's apparently a story that, as only Brando could do, he insisted, because of not learning the new lines, that they be fed to him using a special radio receiver. However, that radio would also pick up stuff like police transmissions, meaning he'd suddenly interrupt a line and say stuff like "There's been a robbery at Woolworths." If it was from ANYONE ELSE but him, I wouldn't believe it for a second, but he's the same guy that showed up for his last voice recording dressed as a little girl.
“Then he promptly lost his mind, suffered a complete mental breakdown, and vanished into the Australian jungle... uhh, okay.”
And he disguised himself as one of the beast men. It’s a miracle he didn’t kill somebody
“...Today, still wanted by the government he survives as an Australian hermit. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him....maybe you can hire Richard Stanley.”
As one does
@@AndreNitroX It's northern Australia. Who's to say he didn't.
Lmao that was my favorite part
When I was a teenager, I worked at the Crown Gotham theater in Manhattan. We had 1 screen, 2 balconies, big, old time theater.
We ran this movie for a week or two, and it was probably the slowest movie we ever played.
Daytime showings would have 1 or 2 people, tops. Night showings had 5 or 6.
Quite a few times it played to an empty theater. That was the easiest workweek of my life lol.
This is the best Critical Drinker commentary in my books. You had my undivided attention for 12 straight minutes. Your delivery is very entertaining.
i had to pause it a few times because I was laughing so hard i couldn't breathe!
"According to David Thewlis, Marlon Brando described making the film as like trying to complete a crossword puzzle while falling down an elevator shaft." ~IMDB
Presumably while everyone was wearing an ice bucket on their heads.
Well his daughter died in pre production so he had an excuse .
@@seanchukwuezi3079 but that still doesn’t excuse his behavior
True
I wish you mentioned how Brando told Kilmer "Your problem is that you confuse the size of your paycheck with the size of your talent"
@@robertgiles9124 Brando will always be remembered as one of the greatest actors in history, though, while Kilmer... well.
@@robertgiles9124 Depends on who you ask. I presonally would prefer anything to a family.
@HORSE馬 I'm pretty sure I don't want a family. I don't like people and I want some peace and quiet when I'm home, not a whole other set of people to maneuver around, all yapping and teasing and moaning and needing shit from me.
About morality, there are certain boundries that I wouldn't cross, like most other people. But they don't include a family.
@@TheTeodorsoldierabvb Val Kilmer has cancer now so....
@@pianoandguitarlover2773 I didn't know at all. I'd never wish him or anyone such a thing.
Glad I found your channel. Your insights are brilliant. Now I have got to track down this cinematic train wreck and experience it for myself.
It's actually a entertaining movie.
This movie is an actual gem. Sad how all that went on, but it gave it 'character'. before watching this, i thought the psychedelic, irrational, and disorganized aspect of the movie was intentional...it worked for me.
Sounds like something you watch at 1am half asleep and with a beer buzz and think it was one of the coolest movies ever lol.
Honestly, I thought that it was intentional too. Intended to represent the breakdown into madness.
I’ve watched it a couple times (for the first time) and I really enjoyed it.
That's what I thought too. I laughed so hard during the film. The juxtaposition of serious philosophical questions and comedy made it something of a surrealist experience. It's a great time.
Its actually one of my favorite films to watch on hallucinogens. Its very strange and i had the sense that they knew exactly what they were doing and thought this shit was deep af!
They caught her at the airport and forced her back on set. This is so unbelievable and absolutely hilarious.
Imagine being on the run and all they wanted was you to finish the scene. 😅
Hilarious? Really?
we should cry sorry
@@marty2090
Right? Like, who is “they”? And if it’s the cops, how is that remotely legal? Breaking your contract is strictly a civil matter…
@marty2090 Absolutely. Believe it or not, but some people are actually smart enough to be able to separate a person from a situation. Laughing at a bafflingly incompetent circumstance is not the same as laughing at the woman herself.
There's a Scottish technical term that describes this movie.
Shite.
What a beautiful culture.
An amazing language we have
And I think I can smell it.
@@charmandyorton006
Yep, I can definitely smell shite.
Definitely shite
i’ve watched this video 4 times and each time i start smiling at the beginning and evolves into out loud laughter by the end … every time … never change man
Contact me for your reward 🎉
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I have not seen this film, but now I must. Just out of morbid curiosity.
It’s insane, let me tell you
I finally understood the scientist character in South Park after watching Brando's Moreau.
Way to good to just be a parody xD
I think I also figured out where they got Austin Power's Mini-Me too!
@@MrPisster Absolutely, them seeing "what if god was one of us" with the piano literally is that.
It makes the NAMBLA joke all the more funnier too.
Watch “The Killing of a Chinese Bookie” and you’ll understand the mayor of Imaginationland.
Ive spent the past 20 years of my life asking myself, “Did Marlin Brando really wear a bucket full of ice as a hat in that movie?”
@David Hance the answer to that question is yes he did, and on certain occasions a pineapple from the buffet line!
🤣🤣
I desperately want, no, I desperately need one of those hats. How many beer do you think it'd hold. It's abosolute genius!!
A marlin is a fish.
Marlon🐟Brando
That is by far the best Brie Larson roast I have ever witnessed.
There is an old saying in Hollywood - "movies refuse to get made." How true that is.
By this point Brando had a decade of openly sabotaging every movie he was in. He got paid no matter what and hated acting, yet everyone still wanted to work with him and were shocked when he did the same thing for the 100th time.
That pretty much sums it up nicely. After Apocalypse Now the only decent film he made was the Freshman.
He was good in The Score with DeNiro and Norton.
I had heard he was also a pill in that.
First time I've clicked on a video titled "The Most Disastrous Movie Ever Made" and I left not feeling like it was clickbait. The fact the movie even got finished is an actual miracle the Church should officially recognize.
Which saint would that canonize?
@@KonpeitoKoil the saint of Hollywood, Keanu Reeves
I don’t know. Only good things can happen from miracles.
@@Danny.TheDog hahhahahahhahahhahaa this got me
Val Killer told a story about Brando devouring an entire turkey in one sitting then breaking the bones to suck the marrow! 😳🤢🤣 You can't make this stuff up.
Hey Drinker, I must say, your thumbnails on practically all your uploads are such great choices, I love this particular upload of yours for numerous reasons and idk if I could find it each time without your decision and work done on the thumbnail.
I just wanted to say something about that bit if work of yours. The video itself is excellent of course but this comment is along enuf, so thanks for your content once again and pls keep it comin!
This is by far your best review. I come back to this again and again. Thank you, Drinker!
Imagine me being about 10 years old, being drawn to cinema, because my dad thought it will be something like Dr. Dollitle, because "animals and stuff".
Sweet childhood
If it makes you feel better, my first movie my parents took me to in the theater was “The Amityville Horror”.
I was 7 years old.
Seen Event Horizon at 8. It changed my life. This movie also, but not so profoundly.
Sounds a lot like the stories I've heard of people who took their kids to see Valley Of The Dolls, because they thought it'd be like Babes in Toyland!
Actually there was a remake of Dr. Dolittle around this time. Not the one starring Rex Harrison, but the one with Robert Downey Jr., for some strange reason. The movie bombed. Some things are best left alone.
@@erikswanson5753 I knew about Eddie Murphy, but this, wow.
Brando insisting of having the midget in most scenes was the inspiration for Mini Me. The double piano scene was his idea, too. Brilliant.
It was inspired. Best thing in the film, and the ice bucket on the head was great too. It's too bad Val Kilmer.
The midget was also the inspiration for the little monkey guy who follows dr mephisto around in south park
It was actually quite beautiful.
They should make a horror movie about an actress trying to escape a hellish movie production but she kept getting caught and forced to act again.
H.G. Well's novel is one of my favorites; I've always wanted Andy Serkis to get his hands on the material, especially for the motion capture.
So what are you saying, is Rian Johnson yet to reach the pinnacle of subverting expectations?
Please, God, no. No!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah. Only god has him beat
Don’t give him any ideas.
Rian Johnson on his own isn't that horrible. As long as he sticks to making original, artistic movies, the damage he does is minimum. The worst he can do is make a super intellectual movie that puts normal people to sleep faster than the most potent drugs. The problem started by with giving him power WAY beyond his means by putting him in charge of something as big as Star Wars.
"Just imagine ... six months stuck in the middle of the Australian jungle with a bunch of people who hate each other, and are actively working to prevent the project from getting finished."
Haaaaave you seen the Australian army?
No, and neither has Australia!
@@underthepale Thats right they spend all their time in court sorting sexual harassment charges.
This may explain the emu fiasco...
@@scottkirby5016 emu fiasco?
@@Snoop_Dugg the infamous emu war. 3 men with machine guns vs a horde of emus that were savaging crops back then
the emus basically won given the cost of the operation and the little returns
edit: th-cam.com/video/BXpu6tbFCsI/w-d-xo.html for those interested in learning about the emu war trainwreck
I haven't read the book, but in the 1970's version of this film, starring Michael York and Burt Lancaster, the premise was that Moreau had found a way to advance the evolution of a being, taking them from an animalist form, to a more human type of animal with the ability to walk upright, the ability to reason, and potentially the potential to understand morality, something that only exists in the mind of man and God. (It was not about hybridizing man and animal, Moreau never harmed a person, his own morality was an important idea in the picture.) While it shows a sort of simplistic understanding of Darwinism, (It was written in 1896, mind you,) it deals with some amazing themes. Well worth a watch, and with the right team, this could still be made into an amazing film.
It also shows some Biblical themes, where the fallen angels were procreating with animals and mankind.
That's called "uplift" - the scientific concept of evolving animals into human levels of development.
The actual theme of the book is criticizing colonization. The wild animals symbolize colonized people, and Moreau is the colonizer who wants to "train" them to become "correct" human beings, with body modifications and a mix of punishment and rewards to behave "correctly". The narrator is horrified at what he did to them, because they can't really truly revert back to what they once were.
In the book, Moreau actually surgically modifies them without using any anaesthetics, so the narrator hears animals yelling all day, and the yelling slowly becomes more and more human.
In the end, the narrator can't live again with humans, because he always suspects people could be Moreau's creatures. He ends up living in the remote countryside with his wife.
War of the Worlds is also a critique of colonization.
Make no mistake. H. G. Wells was a visionary and way ahead of the times he was living in. The message for me was that after having witnessed the events on the island the protagonist returning home and sensing himself surrounded by nothing but animals.
Same thing with "War of the Worlds" the brilliance of which was a bit distorted by the "new" movie with Cruise. As far as I remember the ending was very different, too. Yes, the fact that these monstrous robots/aliens were wiped out by a simple bacteria was amazing, but what sticks in my mind is the arrival of the protagonist in a pretty much destroyed London, the human race being faced with dusting itself off, re-evaluating its role in the universe and, well, beginning anew.
@@Simbabbadthen that's not much of a critique of colonisation, it's basically saying that colonised ppl are animals and can never be anything else
Sure it's criticising the methods on display here, and exposing the hypocrisy of the doctor, as he who upholds the law breaks the same law he uses to opress the animal people and gets his comeuppance, but then the animal hybrids neither had a society the titular white man destroyed nor did they form a new one they just go on a killing spree
I'm not saying themes of colonialism aren't present but I wouldn't call it a direct critique, it's more so an anti vivisection thing and manifesting the bizzare racist degeneration fears of Europeans at the time
I loved this episode so much I got several of my friends to watch it and they loved it as well. I haven’t seen it since it was posted 3 years ago. Ah the nostalgia
The funniest thing is, if they have had some dude just film the entire production drama and stitch it together as a documentary, they would have made back the production budget plus extra.
Actually, the film turned a profit. It's a terrible film, but not a 'flop' bringing in $10 million more than it cost.
They did.
Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau
Or if they mix mash both the film and production drama. It could've been the Blair Witch Project at that time.
That's called Tropic Thunder.
Wasn't Caddyshack based on the making of this film, with names, storyline and locations changed to protect against lawsuits?
You can tell the movie veers off heavily from the original book when you see actors in makeup, because the whole twist of the original was that the animals walking with two legs were not in fact hybrids, but just animals that were surgically modified to walk on two legs and have enough brainpower to follow instructions and attempt to say few words on command. And the really cruel part was Dr. Moreau insisting on operating them without anesthesia so the pure shock from the torture would make them more docile and obedient.
I would say Spoilers.
But the trainwreck of a Film, makes me have zero care for the Book.
Ashame really.
Gosh, that sounds terrible. Maybe someone makes a new movie closer to the book, if it's well made it would probably be a success in the body horror genre.
@@harpiyon oh no. That won't make money. Everyone will remember this masterpiece of trash
Sounds like M Night Shamalongadingdong and Dr Fauci made a movie. Holy phux.
@@onepoeticromancer shamalongedindong. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 brilliant buddy.
This is one of my favorite videos of all time. It is art. You are a genius.
I actually loved this film as a kid. I was sheltered. Then I learned what Michael Bay syndrome is. It's like authentic French Champagne to kids and tater salads, but MD 20/20 to the refined drinker.
I know what you mean
They said Brando locked himself in his trailer and literally ate several *whole* pizzas daily while they made this film.
You could see in "Apocalypse Now" that he was morbidly obese even during the late '70s.
It's absolutely amazing that he even lived to age 80.
I think he lay in bed with the little dude perched on his stomach singing to him.
He wasn't quite obese in the 70s, just kind of chunky.
@@CaptainUnusual "showed up on location in the Philippines weighing in at over 300 pounds"
I'm 6'5". 300 pounds is morbidly obese even for me. Brando was 5'9". Coppola used shadows to remarkable effect.
During Apocalypse Now, he was already refusing to learn his lines or even look at the script.
It gets worse. The infamous scene in Last Tango in Paris with the butter? He pretty much sprang that on Maria Schneider without anyone else knowing and the director threw it in.
Poor David Thewlis caught in the middle of this shit storm. His line from the film, 'Have you ever considered you might be completely insane', couldn't be more apt.
Probably was improvised….
His experience and his character's experience really mirrorred each other!
Can't blame the guy to no to watch the movie until now. Imagine you stuck behind the drama of 2 actors with biggest egos and also in the middle of Island and the director even left.
I've seen the movie and he looks and sounds SO embarrassed, and who can blame him?
This is insane. How could any part of humanity conspire to make something like this happen!?
Hollywood.
@@elder-woodsilverstein7716 Yeah, you're right...
I love the fact Brando became obsessed with the world's smallest man hahaha
The sad thing is that the story actually deserves a good movie adaptation.
that's why I evaded this movie like the plague. It looked disastrous from afar.
Isn't The Island of Lost Souls 1932 considered a good movie adaptation? I remember thinking it was pretty good.
@@cactoidpinata I'm not a movie buff. Didn't even know it existed.
@@TheKrensada No worries. You should check it out if you don't mind B&W movies. I think it's quite good!
There is one from the 1970s starring Burt Lancaster and Michael York. It's a good film.
06:04 "Shedding the documents" Disappearing to the jungle" & "sneaking into the wrap party to tell off Val Kilmer" is one of the greatest movie stories I have heard. Complete Boss Move achievement unlocked!!!
Solid Snake would be proud.
SherlockSteeleye wrap party
Of course, we'd expect no less from the dude who wrote and directed Hardware and also directed 'Color Out of Space'.
@@YouDice Thank you fixed!
He no doubtlessly partook in all the midnight orgies that were happening in full monster makeup.
Rewriting a script on the fly would make it very hard to read, unless you had an extra large house fly.
I have a feeling this film was one of the sources of inspiration in “Tropic Thunder”. The behind the scenes stories of this film is unbelievable!
TRUE! Absolutely baffling film and production
"He also came up with the genius idea for his character to have an ice bucket on his head.
Because it was hot and he was morbidly obese!" LMAO
Still sounds like a cool idea though... if no one is seeing you... which was the character's standpoint.
We sat down this weekend and watched Avengers Endgame.
When Captain Marvel came in, I decided to remain silent and my girlfriend curiously asked "so, she can fly through ships?"
Then later she commented "who is that, why was she there, I don't like that one".
And I just thought about the Drinker.
You could cut Captain Marvel completely out of Endgame with a few rewrites and reshoots, and it would have no impact on the film. She literally did nothing of value or interest, they just had her show up for some reason because she is the "StRoNgEsT aVeNgEr", destroy a few things and then vanish again. This is what shoehorning a character into a film looks like.
Your girlfriend sounds like a good judge of character
@@jonarbuckle778 To be fair: They wanted to give her a much bigger role, but the fan backlash allegedly prompted them not to. And I think that decision was made before they realized that CapM was still a box office success (mostly, because people watched it to "prepare" for Endgame). Fuck Captain Marvel ... or at least this iteration of her.
@@jonarbuckle778 Don't forget she also set up Marvel's "Look how much we love female characters!" moment
Your girlfriend is a keeper.
This is one of your best mate. Laughing so hard throughout. Good on ya👍
That is the saddest origin of a drug fueled jungle orgy I've ever heard
In the movie Tropic Thunder, the director of the film within the film, Damien Cockburn (played by Steve Coogan) who was in over his head and couldn’t control his actors, was based on Richard Stanley’s experience directing this movie.
Except instead of disappearing and then coming back as an extra, he stepped on a landmine and exploded.
@@Barrobroadcastmaster That feels like a metaphor...
@@sarahouillette1357 It actually happened in Tropic Thunder.
@Barrobroadcastmaster hahaha. I totally forgot about that. Tropic Thunder is an absolute classic.
It's just corn syrup, guys. Blood flavored corn syrup
It's distressing how Marlon Brando looks more like someone wearing hideous old person makeup than an actual human who's old.
It’s a damn tragedy considering how good-looking he was in his prime 😩😭
I have to admit that whenever I'm feeling blue, I can put on this video and laugh through the whole thing. I saw this movie in the theater as a teenager and we laughed through that whole thing too. Nice one, Drinker!
The comedic value of this episode is absolutely epic! Love it!
"The most disastrous movie ever made"
Me: geez clickbait much?
*watches video*
Me: ...christ he wasn't joking.
i honestly forgot this movie existed. i vaguely remember NOW. but i thought it was generic 90s shit at the time, didn't know that it took this long and this much cash to excrete it.
Watch the documentary, 'Lost in La Mancha', So disasterous that the original 'Don Quixote'was never made. I won't say any spoilers but you wouldn't believe how crazy the situation got
THE most disastrous is "The Conqueror," the movie that may have killed John Wayne.
But there's plenty of contenders!
The only films I can think of that may have had it worst is food fights or battlefield earth
Seems like he never heard about Heaven's Gate
One good thing that came out of this movie: South Park character, Maphesto.
Yes! And his little buddy Kevin!
Ah, yes! I never put the two together.
You don't say? Seriously
Not to mention Dr. Evil and Mini-me. lol "Mini-me....what don't we do? We don't eat our kitty." 😆
@@Tronathon242 samle here, finaly Kevins existence makes sense. was bothering me for years that i never got a reason for his existence in south Park.
The number of people who don’t appreciate that the Island of Doctor Moreau was a movie built exactly how Doctor Moreau built his creatures is staggering.
I’m only halfway through the video, and everything about this production story sounds like something from a dark comedy. 😂
"More toxic than a Reddit political thread." Now that's toxic!
All politics are toxic regardless of sides/wings. If you need a reminder on that, you're part of the problem.
That's pretty much why I left Reddit. Trying to have a reasoned argument there is only gonna end up in you being called a Nazi, a bigot or the worst of all, privileged.
And all this in a completely unrelated thread.
@Empowered Vagina
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Get. Out.
Jesus..
@Empowered Vagina LOL , good one.
This movie paraphrased
David Thewlis: Why are you turning animals into people
Brando: It's so damn hot out here
That right lmao
yeah right
lmaoo
in todays times the answer would simply be "it's so damn hot"
I watched this movie as a kid, loved it at the time because I dig anything sci-fi/horror. It makes so much sense now that while I enjoyed the film I always felt there was something not quite right about it.
The making of this movie sounds like a true hell on earth, they should make a movie about this.
Sam Neil saw beyond the void and it destroyed his psyche. He’s legit one of my favorite actors.
I've had a crush on Sam Neill since The Final Conflict.
@T O That clip is from In The Mouth of Madness. The last good John Carpenter movie (IMO). Seek it out. It's a rare movie that gets Lovecraftian horror right.
I was an extra on Peaky Blinders with Sam Neill. He was a dick. He wouldn’t talk to anyone, he kept wandering off and they’d send a runner to find him. I don’t know if he just didn’t want to be there or if he’s just a miserable dick.
Mouth of the Madness was excellent. But Sam Neill was terrific in Event Horizon. The part he accept they are going to hell.....Brilliant.
@@spacebum That's awesome! Never mind Sam Neil, but being on Peaky Blinders. Who are you specifically, if you can say?
I desperately want to see a film of this. With Val Kilmer as Marlon Brando.
Good news: they made a documentary about the filming. It's called Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau
Only if Kilmer does his Brando accent the whole time
Should JTT play Kilmer?
That would be hilarious. Unfortunately Kilmer has had his voice horribly injured due to his throat cancer, so we may never see that
Huh?
This was a very underrated comedy that sailed over most heads.
Hold on- wait a second! I read a choose-your-own-adventure book version of this story in 5th grade! I had no clue what a book like it was, and had to Google it when I got home because I was confused that the events didn't line up when I read them lol.
Director John Frankenheimer referring to the famous Will Rogers quote, "I never met a man I didn't like," had this to say: "Will Rogers never met Val Kilmer."
I think during this shoot, Kilmer had a posse of female bodyguards in tow. Did he think he would be asassinated in Australia? His driver said he was the rudest celebrity client he had ever encountered.
To be fair, his wife was divorcing him and he just wanted out and sort that out and the studio wouldn't let him. I can imagine that this would bring out the worst in anyone. I mean, sorry but why didn't they just let him go?
When I was an exchange student my host dad told about when he was the manager of the BMW-Range Rover dealership in Santa Fe he kept bringing his car back with the most random complaints, and he threw a fit every time when they told him there was nothing wrong with it, and he was a generally rude asshole who just loved conflict.
WJ ZAV Why the sorry shit aint your fault
Fans who have met Kilmer say he seems a nice guy and every interview I've seen over his career he seems a laid back normal bloke. The guys wife was divorcing him so he was probably feeling very disillusioned with life and he was forced by contract to stay and film the movie. He clearly was in pain and took it out on people who didn't deserve it but I don't think it's fair to assume his terrible antics were who he really is. People make mistakes no one is perfect. The guy just handled being divorced absolutely terribly like many people do. He was a huge Brando fan and seeing him do stuff as bad as insulting extras and getting his sister to proposition extras for him probably disillusioned Kilmer even more.
You must do the making of Apocalypse Now. Everyone got high and wigged out in the jungle whilst a civil war erupted over the border and all the helicopters flew away to join the army. Martin Sheen had a heart attack on set and Marlon Brando did enough coke to kill the cow they butchered.
I love that film.
I've always loved it too. And believe it or not, I think it's underrated. People love to dismiss it as "that weird head movie," but to me it's one of the all-time greats. Colonel Kilgore is a surprisingly charismatic character, with an accent that's one of the most fun to imitate. The tiger scene is quite suspenseful and very well done. The blond guy smearing camo all over his face has a wonderful irony to it. And the very best scene for me is one of the very last: Willard making his way through the throng of worshipping Cambodians after he kills Kurtz, petrified by the primal silence until the radio on the boat crackles to life and brings him back to the modern world. When Francis Ford Coppola dies, that's the very last scene they should show in the Academy Awards tribute montage.
@@SeasideDetective2 yea I liked it too, I watched the whole documentary series of Vietnam War before watching this and they made it pretty good in comparison to real warzone
Realy? Damn
Thanks Drinker! You've made me want to finish watching that horrible mess of a movie just for the laugh at what went on behind the scenes. Just caught it the other day.
This one always had a soft spot in my heart. Not beacuse it so good, but beacuse of the actual madness of it.
The people who funded this production: "Nah, it'll be fine."
😂
Honestly, if it wasn't a Warner Bros. affiliate, I think New Line Cinema would crash down in flames after this movie.
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I'm trying to remember when water world came out because I think it's existence is the only reason people don't remember island of dr. Moreau more than they do. You know what they say the only thing people remember more than a small disaster is a huge one.
@@JohnDoe-yf9wk Yes. Waterworld arrived a year prior, in 1995, and was also hailed a huge failure even during production. It also costed much more money than The Island I believe.
But still... I liked that movie, one of the very few of Costner's. It was over the top, but ultimately kind of coherent and Dennis Hopper seemed to have a time of his life on screen.
The Island though... The very act of watching it was a misery for me. I remained mostly unaware of behind the curtain drama at that time but boy... It showed on screen. The only positive thing I took away from it was a soundtrack I won from a local radio station. One of the first original CDs in my collection, I own it to this day.
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Yeah I figured. Waterworld went way over budget (an almost laughable by today's standards 200 million which I believe is how much men in Black international cost / lost.) That was the only real reason people remember that movie (that and having Dennis Hopper and being helmed by the then ever-popular Kevin Costner) The sland of Dr. Moreau seriously only really garnered attention because it was such an absolute mess and the fact that it brought the constantly reclusive and weird and eccentric Marlon Brando out of hiding for long enough to film. as far as real disasters I think I've heard that as much crap as water world gets it actually wasn't as bad as most people think and it actually was able to make most of its money back.
Whereas people were literally broken and damaged by island of Dr. Monroe. I mean I do think it took Val kilmer's career and pretty much smashed it to pieces once people knew what kind of a total asshat he was.
Despite the calamities, the pettiness, the incompetence, and the absolute ego manifest in this production, it still wasn't enough to destroy David Thewlis's acting career.
What a legend.
I know I didn't even know he was in this movie
@@mrcliff3709 I think he would prefer that we all didn't know that
@@whyuhatan that I can agree with
So in the Harry Potter movie, that wasn't a moon, it was Marlon Brando?
David Thewlis as ranting sardonic deadbeat philosopher in 'Naked' - brilliant performance; set up the rest of his career.
I DID work on Moreau under Stan Winston and what occurred in pre, production and post was the circus no mere mortal could ever dream or fathom.
So this is why this was my most hated movie of all time. When I saw this in high school, I had the misfortune of being in a third wheel situation. The couple I went with were also a disaster of similar proportions.
Imagine being the studio exec that approved this project and having to provide updates to senior management.
No problem; how do you think he got to be a studio exec?
@@jsat5609 super easy, barely an inconvenience
"Alcohol and drug induced orgies to pass the time" Imagine being conceived during the shooting of this film. "It was the worst experience of my life, and the fact that you popped out later to remind me of it did not help either." - angry crew parent.
I'd be mad as shit
Made worse if the orgies took place while actors were still in their beast people makeup.
@@BulletTooth504 oh you know they were.
@@BulletTooth504 bruh you know they did, hell I would. If I'm not getting shit else on this island then I may as well tap some ass while dressed as a wolf human hybrid.
OR.. they might have told their kid, "You were the ONLY good thing that came from it"..
(The disaster of a movie wasn't the kid's fault)
Knowing the backstory has instantly shot this up into favorite movie category for me
I remember reading the book at school and this lead me to more stories from HG Wells
Just imagine how crazy it would have been if James Woods had stayed on.
So in other words, Brando had a direct connection to two of the most disastrous production processes in motion picture history. Yet one of them will always be remembered as a contender for the title of greatest war film ever, while the other... well...
Brando was pretty much a nightmare in Apocalpyse Now too. He would walk of set believing that's what his character would do and was an overweight playing a supposedly skinny man, which is why they kept him in shadows.
His screentime wasn't that long either.
He also made The Godfather a bitch to work on as well. Thankfully, Francis Ford Coppola was able to put his foot down and get Brando to actually cooperate.
There's a lot of weird connections to these two movies.
HG Wells and Joseph Conrad (author of Apocalypse Now's source material, Heart of Darkness) were friends until Heart of Darkness was released, in which Wells claimed that elements of the story were copied from the Island of Dr. Moreau. The character of Kurtz is based on Sir Henry Morton Stanley, who is the great-grandfather of this film's original director, Richard Stanley.
And, of course, Marlon Brando being a fat sack of shit in both movie adaptations.
@@furioussherman7265 Brando was better in Godfather. He threatened to leave the movie if Pacino and Coppola were fired.
The Kurtz character of apocalypse now shouldn't have been a skinny guy he should have been imposing. He's supposed to be a great soldier.
I've been working on set as a lighting tech and Best Boy for the last 15 yrs. Worked on some pretty stressful shoots. Thank you for the background info! I probably would have been drinking and boning my way into a coma every night they called wrap as well. But I can say this. That crew certainly came away with a HELL of a lot of stories to tell!
OMG I had no idea that Simpson's Treehouse of Horror was based on a book/movie. Lmao, I should have guessed, with the amount of parodies they do, but DAMN is it good to get the reference after 20 years 😂😂😂
I feel like as long as you weren’t an actor, or an actor handler, having this movie on your resume would be a good thing. Ignore the plot and story, the movie itself, as in, crew work, is competently done. Especially when you consider the atrocious working conditions it was done in. That’s professionalism. Yeah, I was a mechanic, I keep things working. HIRE THAT MAN!
Sounds like a nightmare. The crew was miserable
Yeah, all considered, this is a fantastic movie!
Who would have thought that when Brando said "the horror, the horror" in Apocalypse Now, he was actually retelling the experience of everyone that had worked with him
Just got that film and saw it about a week ago. It fulfilled my holy trinity of Vietnam War films: Platoon by Oliver Stone, Full Metal Jacket by Stanley Kubrick and Apocalypse: Now by Francis Ford Coppola.
All the more reason why I'm surprised at why he was held in such high esteem.
John Doe it’s his talent. His acting was the very best, but I suppose it got to his head - just look at Kanye West and Elon Musk for other examples of narcissists that are titans of their industry.
Ahh, but what an actor.
Probably still better than 80% of Hollywood films now