2018 Camaro SS First Drive Impressions FROM A MUSTANG OWNER!
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- This is my first time getting behind the wheel of a 2018 Camaro SS with 6 speed manual transmission (TR6060) I got to see what its like and experience the different features it offers. Pretty nice ride but I was shocked at how different it was compared to my 2019 Mustang GT, the clutch feel and the power comes on quite differently and the ride is also different feels much lighter.
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Interior looks way nicer, and that’s coming from a GT owner
Im pretty sure it only comes in black, never seen a Camaro without a black interior, it looks good but wish it had some other options. Besides the red accents around the cabin.
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Both are incredible cars, I have most experience with GM vehicles, it's the devil I know, but the new Mustang's are pretty fucking sweet and I wouldn't mind owning one.
@@rocksjoshua Mines a Khalahari interior, basically peanut butter. Theres also tan, like a light tan. And redline camaros also have a red interior i think.
@@rocksjoshua there are like 4 different colors I have full red and black
2016-2018s are nice but I have a 19 and it has crazy pops with stock exhaust can’t believe it’s legal.
Seriously I feel the same way about my 19 2SS Convertible…shit is SO loud in track mode and pops like a mothafucker…crazy exhaust with the active valves…love this car so so so much
I actually hate the clutch in the camaro and think it's a nightmare to drive. Feels inconsistent and starts grabbing in an awkward spot. It's insanely hard to drive smoothly unless you drive spiritedly. I bought mine with 1k miles on it and I think they were mostly track miles. (worn tires + road rash) so that guy abusing a brand new clutch might be why mine feels like shit
What about the NLS feature you didnt try it?
stupid question but was this drive with traction on or off?
Hey where did you get your GT?
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Rush Shift Thanks!
Rush Shift Which car feels the fastest when you drive it, your SRT, your 5.0 or the Camaro?
I want 2 drive it🙏
Why did you hide his face whne you raced him? XD
Should've made a face reveal after the race.
If you've never driven a Camaro then you've obviously never driven a manual one.
TheMediumDaddy you’re a goon for this
@@jacoballen5837 a goon lol
Exactly.
TheMediumDaddy wym ?? I had drive a manual car
That was my first thought too haha
The Camaro chassis and gearbox are way ahead of the Mustang GT.
As aways...
Fabrizio Mosconi
Spell check partner 🤣😂
Owned a 2018 GT premium and now a 2017 SS 1LE , build quality of the whole car just seems way way more premium. Even when you drive, just more fun, better handling , better quality. Yes, no space , but who cares?
The 8spd auto is trash though, i had a 17 ss and i had it back at the dealer twice for tranny recalls and the damn car would shudder at about 50mph. Only time the transmission was responsive was when you had your foot on the floor
@@bignickenergy2042 I swear by one thing, only the ZF 8 speed is an enjoyable automatic transmission when it comes to American muscle cars. Yes the 10 speed is faster, but the 8 speed responds to paddles almost like a DCT and is just more fun around town. I was talking about the Tremec manuals, those are built very tough!
Smart man he blurred the speedometer when he started to punch it 😂👌🏽
lol it actually doesnt help anything. if the police wanted to they can easily have that removed from the video. The whole always pretending to be racing in Mexico is stupid too and fools nobody lol
@@jasonauchmuty1617 you're not very smart are ya buddy?
@@jasonauchmuty1617 I highly doubt they can restruct the blurred part of the video and that is assuming they have motivation to. No police department is going to spend the effort on trying to deblur a video of a guy going like 10-15mph above the speed limit.
You fools are talking about a blurred video when no police are going to come and ticket you bc of a fing yt video of you driving on the road!
@@jasonauchmuty1617 rush lives in California where people can't be prosecuted for a video of them committing a traffic violation. You can go 100mph in front of an elementary school (not during school hours) post the video and not get into trouble.
You better be getting paid good because TH-cam gave me 8 ADS during this video smh
No way? I put 3 ads total, TH-cam is playing me so hard 🤦🏻♂️
I got 4
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I didn’t even get 1
I thought I was the only one 😤
(Driver) What would you get other than this?
(Owner) A ZL1
(driver) any other car?
(owner) ahhhhh,
Kanye North lol had to like video after that comment
I have a 2017 SS 1LE(M6) and the only car I’d sell for is a 6G ZL1(M6) or a C7 Z06 (M7)
Same bro same I would switch to a Zl1 sticking wit the Camaro gang forever 🥰
Man, I just got a 2SS ‘23 can’t get over the sound of the Camaro guys… it has a special place in my heart forever!
Yes it isn’t the fastest! But the handling and experience is insane! But It puts a smile on my face every time I drive.
I got the same one and I luv it
I bought a 23 2SS back in April and I don't hate driving to work so much anymore. Plus the rearview mirror is awesome on the 2SS.
Guadalajara is beautiful this time of year.
Buncha beans
I wish he had driven your car like you drove his, so we could have a better comparison, but I understand... you don't want to assume you can drive it like your own car! Good video!
Doug FA he does drive his mustang - th-cam.com/video/OD1ADJl-IEk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for doing the 2018 and not the 19. The 18 is one slick looking ride, aesthetically superior.
what's your opinion on the 2019 and up model ?
@@patiezful a lot of people aren't a fan of the new tail lights and front facia of the newer 2019+. It's all personal preference, I'm not a fan of the new look either, doesn't look as sharp and menacing to me, looks too Darth Vader-y
Camaro is always hard like a rock😤🔥💯
Keep up the simple videos, they are enjoyable. Props to owner he's super chill. Your response is spot on regarding how crappy the M82 trans is compared to other manuals on the market. I hated my 15's trans/shifting. And what is required with all the aftermarket stuff to make it work 1/2 way decent is just bs imo. Only manual ford offers at the moment worth a damn is the gt350.
Getrag is garbage, ford should've kept the Tremec, GM all the way!
I love Camaros. Especially the fighter style cockpit you mentioned. And the interior lighting stuff Chevy implemented with the infotainment systems. I wish Dodge and Ford could do the same. Although I havent been in a newer Mustang so I dont know.
I still want a Challenger though
I believe that you can get similar multi-color interior lighting as an option on the Mustang. Which highlights an issue with options...
You can get a bare-bones GT for less than a 1SS Camaro, but the 1SS is better equipped. Furthermore, when you put options on a GT that are comparable to an 1SS (or 2SS), you'll actually be getting more for your money with the Camaro. For 2020, Chevy did the right thing and released the new LT1 trim (should've done it years ago!). The LT1 gets you the V8, with upgraded brakes over the LT trim...for ~$35K...and it's still better-equipped than a base GT.
The touring mode does not cut it to four cylinder in a manual trans. Only in the automatic. Just changes exhaust sound and steering
Throttle response is cut down too
Wrong!! There is NO cylinder deactivation in the manual trans. Tour mode just changes the suspension and quiets the exhaust.
Big difference is the mustang doesn't build any power before 4000 rpms...the Camaro builds power from 2500 up
Yeah Camaro guy needs to learn how to drive, I’ve watched all 3 videos and he’s not representing Camaro’s well
agreed. he is not a driver, likes the sound.
Why? Cuz he’s not speeding like a mad man? Lol
He can drive how he wants kid... he’s not trying to represent a car you probably don’t even own
@@entertainmentmachNO1 I most certainly do own a 2018 2SS 1LE Camaro. Have any suggestions of how you’d like me to prove it to you ? Besides it’s only a $52k car it’s not like it’s that big of a deal. Also at 46 years old I’m far from a “kid” .....kid. With that said I will admit it was a stupid comment that I probably shouldn’t have said....was probably drinking at the time lol, Just typical car guy trash talk. My apologies
These 6 gens are the best looking Camaro's in my opinion next to the 4th gens (mine). But if I was in the market for one, give me a 5th gen 7.0L Z28. That is all. (maybe a '97 LT4 powered 30th anniversary SS) 😉
torres3800 give me a Pontiac g8 with a 6.0L plus a supercharger.
An LT4 powered '97 ...😲good taste
I’m in my fifties now but used to race my 1968 SS Camaro. It was built right big block 4 speed. I would love to show you young men how to rape that S.O.B. Like you stole it!
'96 C4 with LT4 is rare too.
Being a Subaru WRX owner and having driven a Camaro SS, it is a different feel entirely. Granted, they're two different manufacturers but it's just amazing how much more enjoyable the Camaro is. The clutch is lighter and shorter, gearbox is closer together and it's a little easier to drive in the city. I don't like the Active Rev Match personally because I like to control how much gas I give when I down shift but it's all personal preference. Great video guys.
Chevy really stepped up their game with the 5th and 6th gen camaros, premium packages look/are better than the premium trims from the other brands
i’m a diehard Camaro fan. even though i like how Ford still praises the Mustang. Chevrolet’s giving up lol
Sold my Coyote to get a Sixth Gen Camaro. WAY more power, nicer interior, better handling, just a better vehicle. And the clutch is fine lol. I've had over 10 Mustangs and the sixth Gen beats them all. If you shift like a girl it goes to 4th...that doesn't happen when I drive lol. And what would I get next is a ZL1 not a Mustang again. And I grew up Ford lol 😆
Question is…do you get the 5.0 with the typewriter tick or the Camaro with the torque converter issues? If you go manuals Chevy wins that one over the cheap China one in the mustang.
I remember a time when ford didn’t cheap out. No hate love both cars like you couldn’t imagine
The Camaro will destroy a 5.0 on the track. Gm’s alpha suspension is one of the best you can buy. No wonder ford needed gm’s magride on the gt350.
Cory Adams Stupidest comment I’ve seen.
Even my dad who owns a 2020 GT500 said comparing the GT to the SS on track the Camaro will win every time out of the big 3. I had my first test drive of a 2022 1SS a couple days ago and fell in love all over again from the first time I ever got to sit in one as a kid, I’ll be a Maro guy to the day I die
Geeze neither guy is worthy of driving one. Learn how to drive a stick on a honda first. Your hands not even near the shifter when you need to be shifting
Bro the owner of this car doesn't know anything about it other than it says camaro 🤣
The only Camaro I would consider buying is a ZL1.
Better than the corvettes imo
Zl1 is nice, agree!
Same here I'd snag the 1le just bc if I got a maro bc it's so tight in the maros that's the only thing keeping me away
Brian Hill I was a corvette guy and for my first car I got a 2010 base model Camaro and I’m not a Camaro guy and I would won’t the ZL1 1LE
I love the way it looks! I have always been a fan of the big "musclecars". I think it looks menacing and streamlined. I'll be slightly sad if they discontinue in 2023.
Bring back the nova or the chevelle
Welp
Welp
The owner doesn’t understand how skip-shift works and that it can be easily defeated. He also doesn’t know that the manual car doesn’t have cylinder deactivation. Auto only.
Camaro's are the top dog of the muscle car group period.
GT500 5.2 dual-clutch?
It may not wind out like a Coyote, but the amount of low end torque makes up for it driving stop light to stop light.
Who tf says stop lamp. Stop lamps are brake lights on cars lmao
Nicholas FIFY.
@@scarbourgeoisie What?
As a mustang fan, I love the new Camaros. Interior and exterior.
If you want to drive the best sports car. Go test drive a Camaro SS 1LE. The suspension and 6 piston Brembo brakes is what you buy this car for. The power to weight ratio is amazing
My 17 SS Manual has been my DD for 5 year and 58k miles. Love this car.
How is it when it comes to overall practicality for every day use? I'm stuck between ordering the 1SS and the GT because I know the GT has better storage space and can run on 87 octane but I know the camaro has a better suspension and a better torque on the low end
@@mike3963 My DD for almost 7 years and 68k miles. Practical for me. A blast to drive, low maint.
Automatic guy here, but got to really learn this manual driving game. All because of you and your manual gang 👌🏾
You would enjoy a manual. Try it
Driving manual makes driving so much more satisfying
Dont feel bad im a truck driver and ive only driven a 10 speed manual but never on a car but a truck is way harder too stall out cars look like your timing has too be faster then in a semi truck.. i wasnt very good in a semi but too my defense they were old trucks im sure with fucked up clutches they were stiff too get into gear always grinding gears from all the students all day long so what do you expect plus they make you double clutch which is a very awkward timing in the real world drivers just float gears or shift normally they dont double clutch i dont understand why they make you clutch into neutral then clutch again into gear.. ive seen people who know how too drive manual not be able too drive 10 speed and end up getting a restriction on there licenses too only be able too drive automatic semi trucks so i guess i might be better then them at shifting maybe idk but yeah i agree i want a camaro but i cant get an automatic in a car like this just makes no sense and seems not fun..
Automatics are for women.
@@cryptonator1988what truck do you drive?
There is a 20$ item you can get to place on the transmission of you want to get rid of that feature where you HAVE to skip gears
Yep...one of the first mods I did...and It was a no-brainer. As a matter of fact, you don't even need the "kit" per se. Just disconnect one plug from the trans. That said, the kit is nice so that water intrusion in the plug(s) is not an issue.
@@Game-The-System just seal the hole
I paid 12 dollars for it got one for my challenger too works great
Wait wtf it makes you skip gears? Why? How come im just now hearing about this i wanna buy one but i dont wanna be forced too skip gears..
Better than a Mustang imo.
I’m sorry but mustangs are so damn slow Chevy camaros for the win
So you didnt tell us what do you think of it? Other then it drives and shifts different then a mustang! I want to know if it feels faster etc
I was thinking the same exact thing so does he like the gearbox better, does it shift faster, does it feel faster, does he like it better or is it equal etc...
This looked like orange county and i was right 5:07
I was thinking the same..
I like the Camaro, but that engine just doesn't rev out like a Coyote.
I hope GM will run a DOHC set-up sometime soon because for me the 2v has run its coarse
You don't need to rev out a GM small block because it has a lot more low end torque compared to the 5.0.
@@theguy1224 30? Hardly alot.
Push a Coyote to it's 7500rmp and there's no comparison.
The 2v is a truck engine.
GM needs to evolve from a pushrod already, the complete automotive world has moved on decades ago, it's time for GM to step up their program, the C8 will hopefully usher in a new generation of GM V8's.
I love the Camaro but it's engine needs to evolve .
@@19coyote5oh9 your fishing. They both do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, and the camaro gets to 80 quicker it looks like. The mustang could be better in the top end or that could be due to it using a gear geared for more high end while the camaro could possibly have a lower geared rear and that is why it launched quicker then the coyote catches it in 3rd. The pushrod is proven and the durability on longevity is proven. Pushrod truck engines like the 4.8 and 5.3 etc gm truck engines typically last longer than the f150 coyote engines and dohc engines in terms of long term reliability and longevity.
19 Coyote 5oh you’re exactly right it’s all torque I tell people my ZL1 is a lot like a Vtwin HD engine where the stang revs out like a sport bike for sure
@@brannonbarakat457 lol, more reliability and better? That's why only GM uses pushrods, huh? Haha
Drive an 03 cobra, you'll learn all about the effort required for a clutch. When I test drove my 2012 GT after driving my 03 (years back) I almost put my foot through the car's floor because the clutch was so light compared to the 03.
its just a spring that controls that
@@Mental-Maniac sure, but we're discussing stock clutches - and that clutch is a monster
Tell him to pull the fuse and put it in track mode sounds so much better and isn't that much louder at low rpm and start up
No fuse pulling needed. You can customize the turn ratio assist, suspension stiffness (magnetic shocks only) and exhaust note to however you like.
Is it really downshifting if the computer is doing it for u??
? Are you talking about rev match?
Camaro sounds good!
4th is the 1 to 1 in this car. 5 and 6 are over drive.
I had no clue what that meant
1 revolution of crankshaft = 1 revolution of rear wheels. That's what it means.
720° crankshaft = 4 stroke.
V8/720° = Fires 1 time every 90° crankshaft. Or fires 4 times every rotation of wheels when using 4th gear.
Thought u could bypass the skipshift once the car rev past 3-3.5k? Had a 96 z and 2011 ss that had it and thats what i did. Did they change?
I always thought the new Camaro's had a sick interior but the only thing I never understood is why they angle the touch screen down. I drive a R/T and Dodge has got the right idea where the screen is not only upright but actually angled towards the driver as well.
Roy Munson its designed like that to prevent sun glare
Damien is correct, but it's only slightly angled...barely even noticeable.
My guess is that was the best solution that they could come up with given the rest of the dash layout.
Keeps the GLARE off the screen and works GREAT I don't even notice the "lean" AT ALL lol smh
I grown up Chevy, but your Mustang is so sweet. I am shooting for a 5.0 for my next purchase.
Mr. Paley gayyy
@@gangsterdisciple759 Nope BMG
As a Camaro fan I wish you luck but if your gonna get a Mustang get the 2018 and up their the fastest
Imma bout to buy one of these tomorrow, gonna be the first manual ive bought. I lve heard from many people this is a good first stick shift to get for how forgiving the clutch and gear box is. Any input on this?
Good luck hardest part is hill starts
How's it going bro? I got a v6 manual last year getting an 6 speed ss soon this upcoming week hopefully
Steering wheel looks rather cheap, I'm sure it feels nice but it looks very base
Seven Ηaze i like it, it has a retro look to it
from 2010
"I've never felt my car pushing me back." Uhhh...what? Then he hasn't really pushed it hard enough, which explains why he was letting off so early in the races in the other video.
Monday206am i believe it’s cuz he’s in the passenger seat, at least that what he says.
When you’re in the driver seat, you have the steering wheel to hold onto so it doesn’t seem like you are being pushed back as much. I’ve driven fast cars, and been in the passenger seat of them, and it is a drastic difference.
@@makingcash4life Whether he has actually felt it or not, who is to say. Perhaps he just meant to say that he wasn't prepared for it. Whatever.
torque probably has something to do with it also.
Driving and riding in a car are different in more ways than you think
I’m neutral don’t own any don’t plan to.. but that camaro interior is boring from the early 90’s type vibe 🤮👎
Wtf
Show me a car from the 90s woth a nice interior like thod
No first of all woth and thod aren’t even words correct your sentence first.🤣
@@1nation919 with and this lol
No 👌🏼 99 Pontiac Grand Prix . First one I’ve found with 2 min search. resemblance is there.. don’t make me find more ,this should be enough.
The tremic transmission is way better than the mt82
Wow, thanks for all the ads.
Dude needs to learn his car . Tour doesn’t cut 4 Cylinders
TR6060's are a whole different game than other manuals
Yep gt500 owners known this since 2007.
Meh..... they’re ok
Tremec is well known for strong and slick manuals. Viper, Camaro, Shelby, etc.
Why?
That 1st to 4 th is BS.
Why not let people do stupid shite on their own? Ridiculous.
Any idiot who worries about Gaz and buys a 455hp needs help.
@2:30 4cyn mode works in all modes (tour, sport, track and even snow and ice mode)... tour mode just softens the suspension, the steering and transmission(auto) shift points for better fuel economy and track mode stiffens the suspension, steering and effects the transmission(auto) so if can shift later and makes more aggressive
CamaroWarrior but manual trans doesn’t go into 4 cylinder mode only the autos do
Camarogirl10 exactly the skip shift is all the “eco” mode you really get in manual.
You guys mentioned he's running a catless exhaust... What exactly is his entire set up?
Gallagur look at his video from 2 days ago. They talk more about it there...
The manual transmission cars dont have cylinder deactivation the drive modes affect how it drives more so with mag ride
Was wondering upon why he said that lmao. Cuz Camaro would not be so cheap if they were to have technology like that
That's only on the automatic transmission
You don't need cylinder deactivation in a manual because 6th gear has a lower gear ratio than an automatics 8th gear!
@@tmacsauce You're saying Camaro would not be so cheap or the video is saying that? Because if you think cylinder deactivation is a question of cost then scroll up to my previous comment. You don't need cylinder deactivation when you have a 6th gear ratio of 0.5!
(This question was raised in the video regarding what gear was the "one-to-one" ratio gear)
The "typical" one - to - one gear is 4th gear, on most 5 and 6 - speed manual transmissions, 4th is 1.00
While there are "variances and options" in various ratio's "typically" you will see 5th gear at or "near" 0.80 and 6th gear further reduced to 0.60
As stated, you may find depending on tranny design and desired engine operating range some transmissions offering 5th gear ~ 0.75 with 6th gear as high at 0.50 (Remember, as gear ratio's "numerically get lower" the ratio gets higher, i.e., rear axle ratio's 4.56-1 very "low gearing" 2.73-1 very "high gearing" In transmission ratio's 1st gears with 2.66, 2.88, 2.93, 3.00 are increasingly "lower" gear ratio's
5 & 6 speed gears with ratios of 0.80, 0.75, 0.72, 0.68, 0.60, 0.50 are "higher" final drive ratios
could u do another take with more nauseating camera motion?
I think ill stick with the mustang. In Australia the Camaro is 25 grand more expensive than the mustang because we have to convert the steering to right hand drive. The mustang comes from Michigan already RHD. They're bringing 1le in oz about $145 000. Waaay over priced. Lol
nunzio rose better off just buying one here in the U.S and shipping it home. That’s ridiculous! But hey you guys are in JDM heaven with r34 skylines
Damn, that's 102,000 USD. I could never imagine myself buying a Camaro for that much 😂
You remove the cats get a tune and boom 30whp or so
The easiest way to explain the clutch is like a bike clutch, you just touch it and snap it
First time in mine i did the same thing hit 4th second time thru the gears
Why do you shake the stick every time you can???????
Alvaro Gonzalez I do the same thing and I’m not sure why
Habit from making sure its in neutral and its fun lol
@@mortemsend6412 but you dont need several shakes to check that 🤣. And why is fun? Haha
Extremely slow shifting by the owner
Tremec trans man so much better than that mt82
Guess I will be Crying in my new Bugatti
How come there were no sombreros on the top of 🚶 heads
these guys dont know how to drive
Sounds identical to my brothers friends Camaro 😂
Dope-slap everyone who jiggles the stick shift habitually.
Ive never understood why people play with there stick like that i heard it wasnt good for your gearbox but im no expert when it comes too cars..
@@cryptonator1988 It simply wears out the ball where the base of the stick sits, also it can wear out the gearbox synchronizers if people push it too far, or rest their hand on the stick and put undue pressure on it. All that's necessary is simply plunk it out of gear to neutral and leave it alone.
Llf he was hurt bout him driving his shit 🤣😂
back in the day I had a 1998 Z-28, small bock with automatic. Luv'd that car, blazing fast, looked great with the very dark blue (almost black) color. Now just got Mustang 2019 GT with stick shift manual. I am still learning the stang. Too soon to call it regarding chev vs ford. I grew up on Mopars, Plymouth Duster and Cuda. I dont know, my z28 was an amazing car. The view out of the windshield of the]is guy's Camaro seems cramped in the video. How was it in real life?
What a waste of a great car with that ugly body for 2019
Ugliest interior ever. 🤢🤮
I didn't like the tank like body they introduce starting with the previous gen. I actually like the 4rth gen more due to that. I wish they next gen could be styled like the 3rd and add back some visibility.
It's a car that is easy to drive fast. You can't say the same thing for the Mustang.
The Birds My Word why?
HUGE Mustang guy, I have 3.
But the current Camaro mops the floor with the current Mustang. 2015-2020 Stang is just a V8 fusion.
Chevy keeps improving the Camaro.
09-11 was okay.. Then 2012 they added DI motors, IRS, and better aerodynamics.
2016 to.lresent Camaros are just beautiful inside and out.
BTW, you're 1:1 gear is 4th like almost every other manual. In an A8, it's 6th.
Talk. About granny shifting... I hope you don't shift like that anymore.
If you can... get one especially if you drink that Mexican water and need to get home fast.
I’ve been torn on whether to get a GT or SS. It would be a daily and would like some input from the community
6G Camaros are so nice. Such a smooth driving, riding car. Love mine.
My wife is gonna kill me forever when I buy this car. 🙌🏾
I really like your mindset, it's similar to mine.
Modern hot rodding at its finest. Just go out and spend too much money on a car and think you are Ricky Bobby. Hahaha
Good video!
mexican irvine😂
Question why does it have manual stick shift and pedal shifts or am I a cave man ?
Guja Jangirashvili if I’m not mistaking those paddles are for rev matching.
Setin
Interesting
Rev matching is turned on using the paddles
Touring is just goes back to softer suspension feel while driving and if you have npp and quotes down exhaust the manuals don’t go to 4 cylinders like the auto with active fuel management. And if you don’t want want to shift into 4th gear go a lil faster.
or if you are putting around just double clutch real quick and it tricks the lockout
Visibility through the windshield is awful compared to the Mustang.
Edward Berwind the back windshield isnt that bad . The side mirrors show the whole back of the car. It’s easy to get used too. If you were to test drive a Lamborghini would you complain about rear visibility.
I am not a hater as I have owned several Chevys and Camaros. In fact my first Camaro was a Cortez Silver 1969 Z28 that I bought brand new. I also test drove two New Camaros before going with the 2018 GT Premium. I just did not feel comfortable with the limited visibility through the front windshield and as far as the back glass I'm really not that concerned as I make full use of mirrors on anything I drive. As far as the Lambo goes it's something I am not interested in The Camaro is a good car but not for me. @@supremeetnel7707
Edward Berwind I guess to each their own
Front visibility is fine. Its the blind spots that suck