Use Cutting Lists for Fast Cabinet Making with SketchUp and Open Cutting List (OCL)

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  • @ice4142
    @ice4142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was already planning to use open cut list to build some workshop furniture but in glad that someone is sharing with a wider audience. A good public service. Thanks

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome. It's a great tool and I use it on every project. Thanks for the comment.

  • @Dickie2702
    @Dickie2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Karl. There are loads of plug ins for Sketchup that will produce Cutlists and as somebody that builds fitted furniture quite alot they are invaluable. The one we use exports the data to a CSV file that we send to our supplier who cuts all our components for us. Greatly simplifies and speeds up the build process. Plus they arrive at better than 0.5mm accuracy and each component is labelled! The one we use is in Chinnor Oxfordshire but there are similar outfits nationwide.
    I mention this purely as hobbyists in small shops always have challenges dealing with full sheets. So if you have mastered Sketchup and a cutlist program it is a great way of getting an accurate kit of parts delivered to your door. The prices for this service are great as it is a single transparent price for a sheet regardless of how may cuts and yes you get to keep the offcuts and as they buy in massive quantities it is very cost effective. MDF £37 per sheet, MRMDF £42 per sheet plus they cut sheets up to 3050x1525 at £42 & £73 respectively. You can get melamine or veenered boards etc. Delivery is extra but collection is free.
    Secondly Karl when you were assembling your cabinet I see you inserting your Dominos into your bottom first (face of the board). It is better to full seat the domino fully into the gable (edge of the board) as doing it your way if you rely on clamps to pull the Dominos in they can burst through the face as there is not much material behind them, especially with MDF. Ask me how I know!
    Keep up the good work!

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment. My local timber yard does a similar service on full sheets inc. offcuts and I've used it a couple of times. Chinnor is not far from here so I'll look into that. I do tend to meet half-way now in that I have my timber hard rip boards down which I then crosscut on the MFT. And you're absolutely right about the domino and I should know better but it's one of those things you dowhen you're thinking about what's going to make interesting footage.

    • @Dickie2702
      @Dickie2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop For my work it's a life saver, last job was over 220 pieces which would have taken days to cut. Sadly I use somebody else to do my Sketchup Drawings happier with a chisel in my hand rather than a mouse.
      Not being critical about the Domino thing as I've done it myself many times and mostly it's fine but I have a Dominommake an unexpected 're appearence on more than one occassion. As you known that sometimes can be very tight and with glue it's worse.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

  • @TomsWooddities
    @TomsWooddities 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bloody brilliant Karl! Been faffing about for ages with the measuring tape tool and notepad, so delighted to see that there's a solution for this problem - great video, thanks!

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment. I was undecided about the focus being OCL but from the comments I'm pleased it's gone down well with everyone.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello my new friend,
    A quick and practical wardrobe idea. I like your technique of putting the pieces together. You've created a beautiful cabinet using a cut list. You did a good job. Congratulations. I saw on your channel that you did good work. Why don't you continue? I took a look at your channel. I've already seen you make beautiful things out of wood and similar to mine, it's nice to find people who do the same thing and have the same passion. I am happy to be on your channel. Notifications will always be open to you. I want to see you on my channel too. Stay healthy and happy. Big greetings.
    All the best.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Şahane. Thanks very much for the comment and I'm glad that you enjoy the channel and this project in particular. Last year I changed my full-time job in the middle of the pandemic and since last October I've been very busy and not able to make as many TH-cam videos. In addition I also make track-saw jigs which 10 minute workshop featured prominently on his channel and since then I've they've been selling very well. Between my job and running a small business in the evening. I still have plenty of ideas for new videos and expect to have more time over the winter. So you never know.
      In fact I posted a new video today. Something I started in February and finished last night. I hope you will take a look.
      All the best. Karl.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop Hi Karl,
      Thank you for your kind and nice reply. I am happy with the change of job and the intensity of their work. I hope you are doing well and doing good business. I was curious about the track saw jigs. I want to see them. Of course, I'll love to watch your new video. Because now I'm on your channel. Stay healthy and happy. See you anytime. Kind regards.
      one

  • @christianpetersen1782
    @christianpetersen1782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the reminder Karl. I’ve been meaning to download it for ages! Forecast rain here all day tomorrow so have diarised to have a go then.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great tool. I've started using a service near me which cuts all my sheet goods to size for not much money and these list just get pasted into their spreadsheet.
      K.

  • @simoncooke2852
    @simoncooke2852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Karl, really useful video. I was using another Sketchup cut list extension (Cut List 4.1) but OCL is a much better offering

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment Simon. I've been really happy with OCL - especially the diagrams. Makes things very simple when you've got the saw out.

  • @cv384
    @cv384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing Karl, very informative video for me. 🙏

  • @MostlyCreativeVideos
    @MostlyCreativeVideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most helpful - Thank you ;)

  • @BorisBEAULANT
    @BorisBEAULANT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Karl, thanks for this video and for using, appreciate and share our plugin OpenCutList !
    As I can see you were working on an old version of OCL. Upgrade to the last one (currently 2.1.0). I'm sure that you will appreciate the new report and labels features. Enjoy !

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was filmed last year. I'm now on 2.1.0 and, yes, love the new features.

    • @BorisBEAULANT
      @BorisBEAULANT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop nice !
      We add your video to the "Tutorials" list available directly in OCL.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BorisBEAULANT Thank-you so much.

  • @dbconstruction7892
    @dbconstruction7892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the information. I use Sketchup to design cabinetry for my clients and currently make a copy of the finished plan and reorganize it manually in the Sketchup field to the right of the plan on material blanks so I can get a diagram of what to cut. OCL will do all of that for me and save many hours of manual work. I'm looking forward to using it.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!
      And that's how I used to do it too. It's pretty straightforward and works well. The most commonly encountered issue is not putting in all your material sizes or including parts in the cut list you didn't mean to. Anyway I'm sure you'll get on fine.

  • @Cradley684
    @Cradley684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Karl, have a nice day and Stay Safe !!!.

  • @serterkek7654
    @serterkek7654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou mate it was very impresive...

  • @fleetswoodshop3339
    @fleetswoodshop3339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KARL GREAT VIDEO VERY INFORMING .THANK YOU THANK YOU .FROM DOUG

  • @abdu3d
    @abdu3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you sir

  • @aravindseenivasan4704
    @aravindseenivasan4704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for a guide brother.

  • @TheCarpentersDaughterUK
    @TheCarpentersDaughterUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much, Karl! I've been learning sketchup this week and this looks more useful than I'd anticipated! What version of sketchup are you using and is it free? I'm using an old 8 version at the moment.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Vikkie. Thanks for the comment. So in the video you saw me using was SketchUp Pro 2020 which isn't free. All those little tracksaw gizmos I sell are designed in SketchUp and have earned me enough to buy the paid version. But the good news is that there are very few features in the paid version which make it worthwhile buying as a woodworker/average hobbyist. I put a download link in the description which takes you to a page which has 3 versions of SketchUp for you to download. The version for you is SketchUp Make 2017 which is the last free version that you can install on your PC/Mac. After 2017, the free version of SketchUp became a browser based application which I find really useful, but it lacks functionality like the ability to install extensions like you see me use in the video. I expect 'Make 2017' will continue to work as long as your chosen computer operating system allows.
      Get in touch if you get stuck or need any further advice. workshop@strawbyte.com

  • @masood6086
    @masood6086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for share more power for u
    best regards

  • @JohnClothier
    @JohnClothier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really useful!

  • @JustSayN2O
    @JustSayN2O ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello I'm new to SketchUp and this video is phenomenal for my learning. Mind if I ask two questions?
    1) My project, a platform for a freestanding bathtub, utilizes many identical pieces. Should each one be its own component with its own unique name? Or should I designate one component consisting of all 12 identical pieces?
    2) You unhid the back panel (at time 4:50). When I hide pieces, I see a "wire frame" representation in their place, until I unhide them. I was surprised to see your back panel appear when you unhid it, because there was not "wire frame" representation in its place. Is the presence or absence of the "wire frame" representation of a hidden piece, user-controllable? Can I set SketchUp to completely hide my hidden pieces, or will I always see a "wire frame" representation until I unhide whatever I've temporarily hidden?
    Thank you so much, you're a great teacher and carpenter!

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi - thanks for the comment. In regards to your questions:
      1. If you have an object that appears multiple times in a model, create it as a component and then sketch-up will manage multiple instances of the component for you. When you edit the component the change will affect every instance. Another top tip is to get in the habit of creating components, once created you can delete the component from the model and then add new instances in later from the Components window.
      2. I suspect that you have View > Hidden Objects selected (turned on), whereas in the video I have that turned off.
      Regards
      Karl

    • @JustSayN2O
      @JustSayN2O ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop
      Hello Karl and thank you. You solved problem #2 for me! My problem #1 still remains. This issue occurred, like you explained, because I did not make the initial board into a component before copying it into 11 other identical boards. So now I have two choices: Make each of the 11 remaining identical boards into 11 separate components, or:
      -delete 11 of the boards
      -select the 1 remaining board which is already a component
      -make 11 copies of that component
      -position the 11 copies where the original 11 had been, before I deleted them in this exercise
      It would be much easier if I could simply add the already-existing 11 identical copies of the first board into the first board's component, since all 12 boards are already positioned within the platform base.
      Either way, it will be a lot of additional laptop work. Lesson learned. Thank you for the explanation!

  • @jamiechristie7655
    @jamiechristie7655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found you - love it, very useful, thanks.

  • @idlersdream826
    @idlersdream826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting Karl. I’ve just started a TH-cam course on Fusion 360 as I’m thinking of getting a 3D printer. I’m not sure if it’s able to do this kind of thing so easily.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Open Cut List for SketchUp is very quick and simple. But the same principles apply in Fusion 360 with regards to creating components within your overall model. From there it's very simple to create drawings and layout your components to create a cutting diagram. Its a little bit more work but you can then label that to get you the dimensions you need when you get your saw out and ANY cutting diagram will save you time.
      It sounds like if you're just starting that might be a little way off - but good to have in mind - and components are needed too for 3d printing.
      I use both Fusion 360 and SketchUp for modeling for the 3D printer. You will have access to many more drawing tools that will allow you to make very professional models fast so if that's your goal then you're starting with the right tool.

    • @idlersdream826
      @idlersdream826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop thanks Karl, initially planning to just make small parts/accessory items for the workshop, then we’ll see where it leads with more experience 👍.

  • @WheresMyPencilUK
    @WheresMyPencilUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tutorial thanks Karl I’ve been after a cut list plugin so will give this a try.
    Probably me being a bit anal but can you input the blade kerf you are using into the program? I sometimes make a lot of cuts out of a sheet and would be handy to get things exact.
    Cheers. 👍🏼

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can. In the video at the point I create the cutting diagram there's the material size page and a configuration tab. On the config tab you can specify a kerf and trimming allowance. The kerf is 3mm in a fresh install and the trimming allowance (the amount around the edge of the board you loose as waste) 10mm - and I used these values in the video. My preferred values is 3mm blade kerf and a 5mm trimming allowance. Another important value you can set is grain direction on the sheet and parts. Especially useful if you're using veneered boards

    • @WheresMyPencilUK
      @WheresMyPencilUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop great thanks Karl. 👍🏼

  • @mikecrowe4674
    @mikecrowe4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    V interesting video - I have a project that involves making a hexagonal tree bench using Iroko. It will utilise slats for seat and back. Due to the number of slats and meterage, I’m having my supplier cot the timber into lengths of the required sectional sizes. I think it would be safer to know how to get the timber I need with minimal wastage! Would sketch up And OCL be the thing to use for this?

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, the video focused on only the sheet material but OCS will work with dimensional timber and what it refers to solid wood. Your Iroko might fall into either camp depending how if you are milling the material yourself (solid wood) See note (a) or have dimensioned your material already (dimensional). In fact in the project you saw the aluminium angle runners were needed in 2 separate lengths (200mm and 300mm) for the different cases. I uses OCS to work out how to get the most out of a number of 2500mm lengths taking into account a 3mm blade on my mitre saw.
      I've just run a test on a picnic bench I designed but hadn't put through OCS before and got a cutting list in less than 2 minutes just by applying a material with the bucket tool to all the components and making sure I had the 40 x 70mm "dimensioned" timber in the material configuration and the 2400mm standard lengths I can get from Travis Perkins. Actually I then recalculated a minute later with 3000mm lengths and found I got less waste. It's really quick and super helpful.
      Like I say design using components and apply a material (a simple colour will do).
      I hope that helps. And given the level of positive interest in OCS I may do a quick video using the picnic bench as an example if I get time.
      note (a) what's great about solid wood is that it tells you want to you need to start with before you cut and plane the timber to its final dimensions. Which is really handy because you can go to the timber yard with these dimensions and get rough sawn oversized boards and save a ton of money compared to dimensioned hardwood. If you've seen the oak door frame I used OCS on that project.

    • @mikecrowe4674
      @mikecrowe4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop most grateful for info. BTW, you are responsible without doubt for the least pretentious and ‘most useful in the real world ‘ videos I’ve seen on TH-cam so far. No hamming it up for the camera. Classy and believable 👍.

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikecrowe4674 Thanks Mike that's very kind of you to say.

  • @aakashasaj01
    @aakashasaj01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any Sketchup plugins with pre made cabinet configuration which supports OCL?

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m not sure. I think Alastair Johnston on TH-cam might know more about this.

  • @simonfisher3871
    @simonfisher3871 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you give details of the runners that are supporting the component/storage boxes - are they an off-the-shelf product or is it (aluminium) angle, and if so what thickness and dimensions? Thanks, Simon

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's basic aluminium angle. It comes in 2.5m lengths, 2.5mm thick and 19.5mm x 35.5mm. I ordered mine online but not from my preferred seller IronMongery Direct but the price was around the same £12 per length. I needed 4 lengths.

  • @creativewoodworks
    @creativewoodworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you using Sketch Up Make? Or Pro?

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the video I'm using SketchUp Pro 2020, but at the time the plugins used worked for Make 2017, the last free desktop client.

    • @creativewoodworks
      @creativewoodworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop do you recommend one over the other? I’m just getting started. I need to make plans for the guys in the shop who work for me

    • @StrawbyteWorkshop
      @StrawbyteWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@creativewoodworks If you're just getting started, start with the SketchUp Make 2017. It's free, for a start. For what you need it has all the various drawing tools needed to produce good models and you get the component features I mention in the video. What Make won't allow you to do easily is perform 'solid tools' operations which is something I use all the time but only when designing models for CNC carving or the 3D printer. If you're designing for cabinets, furniture or any other object that's comprises dimensioned components - make will give you all that you need.
      How familiar are you with 3D modelling. If you're new I really do rate the Mathias Wandel series on TH-cam and the getting started course on SketchUp's website. If you need any advice let me know, you can send me a direct message via my Instagram.

    • @creativewoodworks
      @creativewoodworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrawbyteWorkshop thanks for the guidance. I will upgrade to Pro once I get a CNC. I will be doing the courses you mentioned. Looking you up on Instagram now.