5 MISTAKES When Lowering Your Car
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- On this episode of Wheel School, we cover 5 Mistakes When Lowering Your Car. These 5 things are crucial when lowering your vehicle, so stay tuned until the end. Let us know your thoughts & what you would like to see next down in the comment section!
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took me years to learn but my motto is always do it right the first time because its cheaper than fixing mistakes.
Varg Sutton "Do it nice or do it twice"
That's kinda hard to do when it takes years to learn, though.
My $20 ebay short shifter broke I knew I should have bought brand name.
True
go to your local grocery store
push a cart down the isle
that is my cars current alignment
Extreme vibrations ? I see
One wheel spins in every direction and barely touches the ground? Maybe time to get a proper alignment...
@@heroichitsuji yes the joke was that grocery cart wheels do not allow them to travel in a straight line when pushed forward, similar to my car, I am glad you were able to comprehend it and felt the need to reply to my one year old comment.
@@patrickwhittaker5285 you ever get an alignment?
I feel like "lowering" should have been "slamming" cause most of us will do a small lowering kit, say 1-2" which negates most of these negatives (except alignment etc)
Gaunai yep. If you need to roll your fenders, you're slamming it (or you bought the wrong size wheels.)
@@z-ro34 yeah I bought the wrong wheels 😓
@@z-ro34 too wide 😪
I know most here won't care but another thing to mention are bump steer/roll center kits. All your current suspension components like ball joints and tie rod ends are meant to work with just factory height. Lowering can upset the car's roll center and increase bump steer. There are kits out there for each types of cars that can help correct these when lowering a car. Obviously, they won't work when you lay frame BUT just for a moderate drop, these kits help a lot. And of course, you won't really feel a difference until you take the car to the track or even auto-x.
also remember lowering your car puts extra stress on bushings and mounts. Be sure to take your wheels off every so often to see how things are looking down there.
Absolutely
If you are new, and you want to lower your car...... Know how to angle your car to get over speed bumps and down/up ramps (driveways/car garages/etc). You cant just drive straight over/down/up things anymore most likely... Know your roads! Stick to the lanes youre used to. Potholes, dips, bumps, can and will destroy something on your car. I never drive slammed anywhere that I dont know the road and I always air up for sketchy roads (thank you air suspension). If you dont have the luxury of air bag suspension, pray. Unless your area has immaculate roads.. Then I envy you. Just some tips.
Michael Hookano I measured ( getting out measuring from the rocker with a tape and I did get some strange looks in the parking lot / from the side walks ) my local roads and most bumps are 5in or less so I put my lowest part point @3in from the ground. And you are so right thank goodness for low rider technology 🙂
This is why I don’t want to lower my car. I do want to get air suspension though but pretty expensive so I’ll wait till I can afford it. Haha.
The apron for my driveway is a bit steep until the sidewalk, then it flattens right out. Pulling my AMG into the drive was hairy the first couple times. There’s only one angle where i can pull in and not scrape the shit out of my front diffuser, and it makes my rear left tire come off the ground like a foot lmao. When i get my coilovers and put them on, im gonna need to get some planks or I’ll rip my bumper right off
Im raisin my car. I hate hitting a pothole or dip in the road and looking in my rearview hoping I dont see oil
I tossed on my coilovers , maxed them out & been cruising ever since ! but this is awesome advice
Love the information in this vid, nice and concise. Could you guys by any chance go into further detail about lowering info in regards to cars going widebody?
Thanks man! We certainly can!
Gota go for a second alignment after it settles too 🤙
just wait until it settles and do a final alignment
Varg Sutton that’s what I did. Going a month or two without a alignment won’t kill you. I did mine in the winter so I had my winter tires on anyway so when it came time to swap them out I just did everything at once. Or if you know your doing a big wheel and tire upgrade wait
Mistake #1, thinking springs will be "low enough". Buy once.
mrodr008 buy the right springs, bought h&r sport lowering springs for my benz 190e fitment is sick with 10 mm spacers. Some good shocks to go with them and ur set
Car Guy66 but they don't go as low as coils...
Victor Pascua Some people don't want to go very low. Just saying.
robertdevald agreed
Agreed! Bought h&r springs and they were not enough. I'm now on KW clubsports!
awesome video, one thing id like to mention is how most people go too low. Lowering the car has its benefits but if you completely slam it, it will most likely make it worse not better. At that point its just for looks.
Should have talked about the need for adjustable control arms/camber kits for vehicles that don't have stock adjustments!
Definitely! We will make another video going more in-depth on suspension components ❤️
Fitment Industries I bet that's one of the most often forgotten detail and expense when lowering.
A few weeks ago you were at like 7k subs and now at 29k, great work brother. Keep up the good work. Giving me great ideas for my channel 💡
Steve Meade doing an appearence too🔥🔥💪
Wow! I didn't think Steve Meade would ever be in your guys video! Go check out his TT Escalade.
17 tlx 20x9 rims 245/35/20 +35 offset, 2” drop all the way around eibach sport springs on stock shocks. No issues rides great did the alignment also,
Flush life.
Function and looks.
God i wish you guys had a location in San Diego. You guys are the only believable people i would trust working on my vehicle 😢
Hopefully one day man 💔 Otherwise you could make a trip out to Wisconsin 😏
What are you trying to do? I can recommend you people..im in LA
When I bought ST (KW’s little bro company) coilovers for my A4 B7 I never got an alignment. And I had 19” wheels. My tires never rubbed never had camber issues and plus the wheels I had were deep dish with a lip. Now I have a 2017 Charger that I might lower but I rather wait to get bags.
Hey man if you need any help building a kit, shoot us an email! Shop@fitmentindustries.com
Can you name the beat in the background pls?.
Its a beat on Cormill's channel!
Thanks mate.
He missed probably one of the most important details when lowering your car lol "pre-loading the bushings" 85% of ppl don't do this and it's harmful to every suspension component on the car that has a rubber bushing lol ie loosening the control arms ect when lowering the car jacking the suspension up after u get the ride height set then tighten the components because rubber bushings work within a certain range lol lowering a car or even raising it for that matter puts it out of range and most alignment shops won't advise u on suspension pre-loading it also helps ride quality as u won't be riding on binding bushings but this only applies to factory rubber bushings not polyurethane because in most cases the poly bushes are free floating within a sleeve
couldnt have said it better lmao period
@Duncan D'Amico i think the 'lol' are the periods
One thing you missed. If your car has a "reverse rack" it is there by design and your car is balanced to that stance. Dont be like me. I tried to adjust the rake out of two cars and wondered why they were bouncy in the front end for months. They wouldnt hit dips correctly and front to back was not n'sync. Also dont nessesarily go for high spring rates or even coilovers. A progressive lowering spring and a nice Blistein, Koni, or even KYB if you must should always be your first choice unless it's a car for the track, drifting, show...
A lot of times the front and rear fenders are not even on purpose and manufacturer balances the car accordingly. The evened out flush look with squared zero gap all around is clean looking but is not possible on some platforms without upsetting the balance of the car. Remember it isnt just putting an extra 100 lbs on the front, you are also taking 100 lbs off the back and its plenty to make the car have a rock and wierd bounce. BMWs, Lexus, and Porsche I have found are all picky when it comes to the weight distribution. Especially with higher spring rates. It will make the front leap first over bumps then the back will jump up and come down. Instead of the whole car accepting the bump evenly. Weirdest feeling I ever had. Cars rear end would sway bad at high speeds. Dangerous shit. I am sure you could swap springs out and compensate for any stance but the negative stability feeling it puts into the car might be hard to adjust out of it without going through hell and back.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the tips
Your welcome 🙏🏽
Thanks for the tip, I’m getting my coilovers Monday !
Definitely be picking up my wheels from you guys! I have a Ls1 e46 with m3 overs for that hot boi look... lol
Thanks man! If you need an fitment help shoot us an email! Shop@fitmentindustries.com
I bought a car that the previous owner put some Ebay lowering springs on. I want to change them out, but I like how low it sits. When I look up other lowering springs (I don't plan on doing coils, as I don't want to throw a whole bunch of money at this car), there's not another brand that gives it the type of drop these springs do. They haven't failed me YET, but I guess the search will continue
Im not a car guy, im a truck guy. Idk why im watching this then. but i guess i just enjoy suspension parts lol
You know about custom offsets?
Lower your truck O_o
I told myself, i would only do wheels and coilovers on my JZX100. It turned out to be, Front RCA, shortened uprights, all new bushes, all adjustable arms front and rear, and currently about todo rear subframe raisers,all this to bring the geometry closer to OEM......went from 0 to 100 real fast. hahah
Lmao that's usually how it goes!
Do you have to wheel align every time you adjust coil over heights or only after installation? Thanks
Highly suggested to do anytime you mess with your suspension
Love the content guys!
Thanks man! 🙌🏽
Hey u guys! Thanks for uploading awesome content time and time again. I have a 02 RSX, and I want to do a moderate drop( 1"-1.5") but in the winter (I live in Alberta with tons of snow) I want to bring it as close to stock height as possible. I haven't been able to find any coilovers at any price point yet. Is it impossible??
ChromePhoenixQ lol I have to wait till summer to get mine
Maybe you should say what your price point is.
ballinvsxx clearly stated in my comment, any price point.
Definitely not impossible man! A lot of coil-overs are adjustable and can go back up to ride height
thanks for replying! I was looking at the tein street advance z and they have a maximum ride height of -1.1" in the winter i wanna be at stock :/
Another mistake is cutting the coils instead of using lowering springs.
Lowering springs ALSO maintain the same ride as
your OE. And If you see a guy bouncing all over the place after lowering, it's because he CUT his
springs instead and you increase the spring rate about 10
percent for every coil you remove. Then a much better shock is needed when
you start hitting 20 and 30 percent rate increases.
I'd like to see a "The truth about" on the Axe wheel brand...I've done a little research and they do compression and rotary forging for not too bad a price and I'd like to upgrade my cast wheels in the future for the strength and potential weight savings
We definitely have been talking about doing a video on Axe so stay tuned man who knows it might be the next vid we do!
@@FitmentIndustries great news! Y'all inspired my current build and I'll be lookin forward to hearing more about this really solid looking company and MAYBE slide in some info on the EX31 wheel 20x9, 25ET in machined black I'm lookin at lol, thanks! ✊🏾
Thats awesome man glad to hear you found out about us! You can always upload your ride to our gallery to be featured on our website and IG. Also if you have not done so already give us a follow on IG we post daily! bit.ly/2Ma4oca
For front end lowering say3-4 inches, are both potholes and bumps equally dangerous for your car's oil pan? Also what is fender pulling?
Will you recommend truhart???
What about the poor stock sway bar end links. All that extra weight being put on them not to mention pre loading the sway bar. And the awful clunking nose that comes from it. Bought shorter ones not to much later ha.
Yes just what I was planning to do to my car
should i get wheels first or suspension
So if you get suspension you need to get the wheels align. So what do you do when you want to run a rocket bunny or pandem kit for a forester xt do you need to get all together like 1st is suspension and than alignment for the wheels and than the wide body also wheels and tyres so what do you do first to last
List of the stuff I want to do
#1 Coilover
#2 Wheels
#3tyres
#4Widebody
And #5 alignment
So what do I do 1-5
what is that backgroung beat i love it
Just got coils installed 2 -3 weeks ago I'm thinking of waiting to get an alignment till I get new wheels or should I do it now
Definitely get one once you throw your wheels on just in case you need to mess with your camber and such to get the fitment you need!
I’m going to lower my car with lowering springs and put on some new wheels and achillies atrs from your guys, should I get the car alignment ASAP or wait a week to let it settle in? I seen horror videos of people going through tires when they wait for alignment but their never specific on the time frame considering these are fresh new tires.
Thank you for the tips bro
I actually bought some coilovers earlier today, waiting on them to arrive. Does anybody have a recommended list of what supporting mods i should look into while i wait? Its for a 2013 Kia Forte Koup SX if that helps.
Have you considered wheels yet?
Im considering some motegi mr116's but theyre a bit out of price right now
Fitment Industries are there any other parts i should concern myself with? Like control arms, bushings etc? I know you mentioned those in the video, but will my car need them?
You were doomed from the point you said "kia"
GUNZ i know kias are looked down upon in the community but its a blast to drive. Im not trying to go crazy stance on it, just droped and maybe -2° all the way around. If people want to hate on it its whatever, but its not a bad looking car and its a fun drive.
No wonder my car was chewing tyres 😂😂😂 glad i seen this video
Is removing the fender liner a must?
It all depends on if there is rubbing or not
How soon should I get it aligned? Should I wait for the springs to settle or get an alignment ASAP???
Alignment asap homie!
Steezy vid! I see myself in the cover photo of the video 😂 Nakais RWB meet 🤗
Your car or you're walking around! Either way, those RWB meets are awesome!
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Fitment Industries walking around, they sure are!
Wow I can’t believe camber was not mentioned. Affects ride/grip and tire wear.🤔
I need some advice, I bought new rims with low profile tires for my Toyota Corolla; the clearance space between the wheels and the fender lining is about the same as it was on the original wheels, but I want to lower my car about an inch or two so it looks a little better (I don’t want to have it sit too low to the point I have to go across speed bumps extremely slow or side ways). What is the best possible way I can lower my car 1-2 inches.
I would suggest coilovers and or Lowering springs which we have available on our site here take a look and see what we have for your ride! bit.ly/2qvG7o0
Can you work on the site more and add fitments for VW Passat B5.5
There should be some in there if you scroll to the bottom!
Got any tips on finding out of production wheels? Found a set I really like on tirerack, but there’s only two left and they’re on close out sale.. I can’t find them on any other site or even the manufacture’s site
What wheel are you looking for?
Fitment Industries
Kosei K4R, lightest cheapish wheel I can find
I have a question. I have a 2016 WRX and want to run a coilover setup just to get rid of wheel gap. I came down to two choices: Tein Street Basis Z or Raceland GJ/GP. Which setup would you choose? Tein has lower spring rates and the Raceland has Lifetime Warranty but im not sure on their qual.
We would definitely recommend going with Tein. They provide the adjustable damping where as race land doesn’t. Shoot us an email and we can hook ya up 😎 shop@fitmentindustries.com
Thanks, guys.
No problem 🙌🏽
Hi. I very like your videos. So how many inches will be better I will drop the car if I dont want too lower ?
Depending on the make and model and it's all you're looking for. Check out our gallery! www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery
What do you think of the Koni str.t w/ the pro kit Eibach springs. All I want is an upgrade from oe?
Not a bad kit! If your upgrading from OE this would be a good option. Have you checked our site we have some pretty good pricing on suspension kits! www.fitmentindustries.com/suspension
all tips are true
Great vid 👌
lowering springs are a mistake in my book. you need coilovers if you want to do things right.
Is rolling and pulling fender linings necessary if you decide to install a Rocket Bunny, Pandem, or any other wide body kit and run a bagged suspension setup?
Does depend but for then likely yes.
Hey just wondering, I have a 1996 Honda prelude only 80,000 km got a bit of rust on my bolts that hold my struts mechanic was saying they could be hard to get out what would you recommend I stock up on so that I have all the parts necessary like bushings and stuff like this considering it’s an older car I might want to change everything got any good ideas?
I would advise just up keeping the ride meticulously clean and up keeping it and working with a mechanic as much as possible!
SLIDE TO THE LEFT.....SLIDE TO THE RIGHT....
I'm thinking about cutting my springs cause I don't have any money for coilovers or drop springs
3:32 holly hell thats the ugliest fitment i've seen in my entire life, and i live in SoCal.
A phat poke civic fitment
This is good 👁️👄👁️
Dude I’ve got racelands, lowered my car 4 inches and have had zero problems with my alignment after 5 months😂
Do you answer figment questions?
Absolutely!
I got an alignment when I put them in but I adjusted them a lil bit. Do I still need to get an alignment?
I would still suggest getting an alignment!
You have to buy a coilover kit AND lowering springs?
Do I need an alignment every time I raise or lower my car ? Thanks!!
I want lower my car at 2 inches so do u recommend lowering springs or coil overs
My 15 civic has 15" rims but I'm planning to put 17 and maybe upgrade to a coil over but keeping the original height.. Does this wheel size requires the fender to be rolled?
Can I get it aligned before I put coilovers?
Also mistake. People static hellaflushing their dailies XD
Who TF spends a couple hundred on alignments?
AMG did all that for me already
Should I lower my car first before buying these rims and tires I want ? Or vice versa ?
Ma boyy steve meade
Also specs, make it able to properly take car of the weight of the car.
You said not to go cheap but I already bought $300 lowering springs from you guys 😂😂😂
Will it kill your wheel hubs when you lower your car?
Not if you do it properly
Is tein coilovers street advance good for around 500 bucks new..
what i learn is stance is never go along with max performance, you had to sacrifice one or another....you might have stance car with serious build engine BUT you will never had maximum traction out of it...thats why i kinda leave the stance life and go with the maximum performance...which is kinda make me sad and happy all together...
normalsalaryman I think you have to find the sweet spot for your own personal taste of lowness & performance. You can be stanced enough that you like fitment & still drive 90% the way you like to.
normalsalaryman, or you could buy an affordable car to stance. It might be expensive (of course it will), but it will spare you the heartache.
i love my car so much when its stanced out and stretch tire, but since i swap my engine and having 800whp, the stretch tire is kinda screwed me, and my car both got bullied on the road lmao, Lossing to cheap car that im not suppose to lose lol..and i had enough so i decided to throw in wider tire on a 10inch rim..and i had to lose the camber and raise the height too..sure the car is a different animal right now, but the lowest i can get is still kinda high for my taste..around 2finger tire and fender gap..
at first i thought buying another car to stance is brilliant idea, but in the end it goes the same like always..i had 6 car at the moment, 2stock daily car and 4 stance car at the beggining but now they all a race car..why they all turned a race car? well maybe because i kinda hate lossing on the highway, thats why i always do some mod on my engine and somehow i also cant stop modded my car lol...highway is a poison for me..
normalsalaryman yea that’s too high for me, I’d just get stiffer suspension or upgrade to stiffer Swift Springs. I’d try for that meaty tire look that most e46 M3 & S2000’s have with 1 finger gap
Lowering your car and not addressing sway bar endlinks is a quick way to having wierd suspension.
Also like he said cheap coilovers are usually over sprung and underdampened .> Or their compression dampening is mismatched... > or the high speed compression is not aggressive enough and low speed compression too soft..
Factory suspension has the benefit of R&D as well as QA and QC that MaxSpeeder and all the other rebranded china suspension doesn't have. But YMMV [your money may vary] .. I'd stick with factory dampners and lowering springs until you can save up for good quality coilovers.
10/10 agree I would much rather save up over time and get a really nice quality set of coils rather then something cheap to get your car low fast.
End links is currently my problem with the 2inch drop that my Flex Z coilovers came with. Adjustable end links are such a small part but very crucial.
Is driving without the fender liner bad for the car ?
Can camber plates and adjustable arms correct for wheel offset that's very different from factory?
They can certainly help!
Is coil sprigs good ?
Lowering springs are nice for the price otherwise a nice upgrade would be to coilovers! I have a link here to both on our site check it out! 🙏🏼 bit.ly/2p2oJa5 and . bit.ly/2IevIoY
I lowered my car but now every shop says they cant do the alignment because their jack cant get underneath the car😥😥😥 Help!!
Sheeeesh man! I know of some people using wood planks to help get the jacks under the car!
u forgot to mention to get camber kits
One other thing about lowering: a car with adaptive adjustable suspension may lose that feature when lowering.
Suprise suprise
What about coilovers?
I really want to lower my car, but its seems terrifying. Especially living in NY with snow, etc...
Holy shit, thank you.
I have. 1982 Mazda 323, RWD... How the fook can I lower my car besides cutting springs. NO PARTS ANYWHERE
I can't find anything either my guy!! ☹️
hey man i bought a lowered car but the tires look sunken in... how can i fix that?
Spacers can help you with that! Or just going with a new setup with new specs, what car do you have? Check out our gallery to get some good ideas! Here’s a link. -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery
@@FitmentIndustries thank you!!! i have a 98 prelude :)
You say "couple hundred $" that is for the alignment. Does alignment really cost that much in the US?
It’s usually under $100
Like $60
Is there by any means that lowered car can feel like their on OEM suspension? 😂😂 bcause i find this interesting, my place there are many seller promoting that their suspension can maintain how the car drive.. comfortable just like on OEM suspension
I have a question i have a 89 bmw 325i e30 cabriolet and i was wondering what’s the best coil overs for my e30
ST/KW!
Car Bro - Lowers car to look "cool"
Car Guy / Petrol Head - lowers car to handle better in the turns
... easy to see what type he is hahahahaha
Wish I knew good shops in NorCal who could work on my car :/
Try and see if anyone knows of any in Facebook groups ! :)
I’m watching cause I got a deal for some teins but it is a bit sketchy.
Nice video
Thanks ❤️