Saving David Waines - the fifth estate
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- Canadian missionary David Waines devoted his life to saving and protecting children in Liberia, only to be charged with sexually assaulting a young girl - an accusation he strenuously denies. Bob McKeown investigates.
MORE INFO : He was considered one of the most courageous aid workers in Africa today. Vancouver missionary David Waines spent decades saving lives and protecting children in the small war-torn country of Liberia. He played an important role in getting the government to enforce a new tougher law on child rape- even investigating cases and in some cases taking part in the arrest of suspects.
But then, in a stunning development, Waines himself was charged with sexually assaulting a young girl, an accusation he strenuously denies. Jailed in a dangerous prison, then treated in a hospital at the peak of the Ebola crisis, Waines feared for his life.
He and his supporters say he is the victim of a corrupt justice system and enemies bent on revenge. Liberian authorities want to prosecute him for what they allege are serious crimes. Bob Mckeown investigates the controversy around David Waines.
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As a Canadian I don't understand why he didn't help the vulnerable populations in HIS OWN country FIRST before trying to help in other countries?
elleoo7 hear hear
Liberia is the poorest country in the world. You can't even compare it to the most vulnerable in Canada.
Typical missionary. Most mission work is in foreign countries.
Canada has a big state run welfare system so they don’t have such needy people. Sadly the foreign countries with needy usually have war lords who will wipe out any good work done soon thereafter if other diseases don’t. The work is more about spreading the gospel and good will.
Grow up, you self serving fools. The man is doing good, what are you doing for you fellow man!
He seems very narcissistic....he wants to be in the spot light....he wants everybody chanting his name. It's all about him.
Yeah, I was a bit worried about that too.
LOL another blind soul. There is no white in that baby.
Why would Irene lie meanwhile she was living well in compount? DNA should be done both in Liberia and Canada just to be fair.
It's possible the baby his. 25 percent of biracial kids will look black, 25 percent will look white, half will look biracial.
That baby is 100% African
@@sharonrose2233 No they do not.
If you don't know why Irene would possibly lie shows that you do not understand the hold that the threat of the occult has on the psyche of the majority of Africans. That threat has kept dictators firmly in power and people in poverty.
This story is very conflicting. As a Christian, I applaud his passion for helping people but I can't help but feel this has ''white saviour'' written all over it, and that makes many African people wary and annoyed. The scene where the children are reciting his name over and over again seems staged, contrived and drips of paternalistic colonialism, it's hard to watch as an African woman.
I agree with you. The part where they were chanting his name... If you listen many were not even really saying his name at all. Smh. I guess was a lot of good in what he did, to help any people in that situation and to provide help where few do I suppose is certainly good, but I see a level of narcissism and it could've been, or led to god complex, in the same way that happens in a cult when the leader feels everyone looks to him for their needs. They begin to feel they are entitled to take what they want. But for all the good he did it may have been at the cost of this young girl's life and wellbeing. If this is true, and I feel it may well be, it's a deplorable betrayal.
+K Tibaijuka I was struck by his demeanor seeming narcissistic. The aunt's response regarding Waines denying the offer of doubling her money was quite genuine and disturbing.
+K Tibaijuka The chanting of his name is very unpleasant. The fact that he engaged in arrests is also wrong that is not his job. The idea of ritualized child abuse is an old and discredited idea. There is certainly child abuse but I have never seen credible evidence of Satanic abuse.
I totally agree. I'm not saying he's guilty because I wasn't there but he sure is full of himself!
So you really believe he would stay in that Hell hole for self glory? You will never get it man they do it out of love.
IMO He is NOT the father of that child. However, the Jury is still out on the sexual assault allegations.
10 minutes into this I spot two glaring red flags: he's having those he serves through community and private donations chant his name (communal narcissism) and presumably using diverted funding to support his vigilantism ( mission stray; possible defalcation).
I am a Liberian by birth and has absolutely no confidence in the justice system. i have no respect for what goes on Liberia. I was openmined until I watched the video in its entity.,I am troubled by the following:Why did he make two attempts to escape the country?( His response was a bold face lie) Why did he take the minor to the Hospital to arrange for an abortion as its alleged?(His response about taking her there for counselling is another lie.) People don't get counselling at hospitals in Liberia.( They usually talk to their pastors, priests, Imans and religious leaders) and why did he try to pay off the Minor's aunty according to the allegations..He is his own worse enemy.He maintained his innocence and implied that these allegations are trumped up charges by his enemies.Again, I am not going to be judgemental , but i am troubled by these allegations and the mistakes David made along the way. David should return to Liberia and face these allegations.
+Liberian man IMO everyone needs to stay out of Liberia and let them deal with the problems. People need o just stop trying to help these people they don't want help poor David
I would be troubled by a person that on one hand has no confidence in the justice system of their country and then expect somebody who may or may not have commited a crime there to go back to face the very justice system they have no faith in.
This is why no one should be trusted. Look after yourself and your own. no good deed goes unpunished.
"Think of him as part Mother Theresa, part Indiana Jones" ..yeah, and part Michael Jackson.
I find a man who hangs about lots of young vulnerable kids very suspicious. This is not normal adult male behaviour and one has to question their motives.
The first thing i thougt of to. Something smells like fish here. And it's rotten!
@ungratefulmetalpansy It not uncommon that men who helps kids, choose to do so because of the proximity to kids. Its sad but true. 🤷♂️
Right...you hope for the best, but prepare to expect the worse!
man the only episode of fifth estate so far that ive seen that i cant stand
Why?
@@MissNebulosity hmmm i dont remember. its been awhile lmao
Why is it his choice to return to Liberia? Canada doesn't extradite? Lucky Dave...
So, he is a minister, a doctor, a policeman, and a politician in a country that he doesn't belong in. I really don't feel sorry for him....he is power hungry.
I'm a student, spent the last 11 years of my life in university studying human anatomy and geneticts. As a black person, I can tell you that it is almost impossible for the child that David Waines "fathered" to be completely black like the child shown. The child even has other features of a black person, like the nose, and no Caucasian features. The chances that he is the father of that child are next to nothing. I've only heard of a white father having a black baby once, he had twins with a black women, one twin was completely white, one completely black. For a white father to have a single embryo that turns out completely black is pretty much impossible. He didn't father that child.
I agree -- there's absolutely no sign of mixed blood -- but if you know of one case where it occured with a monozygotic twin, then it's possible, although I agree, almost unheard of. Why doesn't he pay for genetic tests himself?
Who knows if he fathered the kid or not? and after dating one for 5 years I know that any self respecting geneticist would avoid making accusations without dna.
I wouldn't be suprised if he did it though he seemed like a narcissist.
my thinking exactly.
you don't expect us to believe this, do you?
Agreed. They all lied. But most of the blacks in African countries will give you a 2 sided smile.. you can't trust them, none of them. Look at all the missionaries, aid organizations, Dr's w/out borders, Red Cross volunteers killed by these people. let them war it out amongst themselves.
A brave man, God bless him. That Irene is so unbelievable, and obviously coached; and her baby would look completely different if Waines was the father. Here's a question: why is the hand that feeds always bitten? If I were him, I would not consider ever returning. It's a shame that the interviewer was not interested in asking deeper questions about his experience of being incarcerated. For example, locked up with the very people he helped to put there, did he learn anything from/about them? It would have been interesting to hear how the experience changed his views, after all he had a fascinating opportunity to investigate the root cause(s) in the men there. Perhaps it was about his coming to understand that the men could have used his help too ... that kind of problem needs to be treated from both ends.
🤔, that look he gave right away in the intro had me already disturbed, and then they showed those kids., chanting .. I'm getting sick already
same
My gut feeling tells me that Waines was a predator. I agree with Haya Glamazon's uncomfortable reaction regarding the scene of children reciting his name at about 6:30. I just find his whole demeanor to be very superficial and he seems to be playing the martyr.
that behaviour is very telling
The reason why he didn't ask for a DNA test is very telling. He thought he might be the father ...
Notice these missionaries don't go to regular pple to get to know the country. They go to the worst ghettos where they know no one has power to contradict them.
My two cents is stay in Canada & help the needy refugees & First Nations population not to mention the homeless & foster kids. It's not like Canada doesn't have its problems... but in Africa he can set himself up as a God to be cared for hand & foot & to be feared & for him to indulge in his dirty vices.
As a missionary foremost, a foreigner, and a white man; he was interfering with things as a missionary he shouldn't have been. This incident was inevitable, truth or not this was bound to happen. Watching him around people and interviews, he appears to be disingenuous as if he is hiding something.
This is out in left field- but if it's a contraband cell phone in a prison...how exactly is he recharging it?
The whole time I was thinking about how he charged his phone.
I felt like this man was completely innocent , that this was outrageous UNTIL !! the very moment when he asked him why he went to the boarder . he he stutters ,,, umm arhhh .. well ... at that moment .. and a few more telling things ''like the auntie .. she was NOT lieing ... hmmm theres something not right here at all!!
The hospital trip made me think hes not being truthful. But I feel hes hiding something n its unfortunate. The dna I believe isnt his but it dont mean he didnt do anything. I didnt believe her until the hospital n the border story he sounded so shady.
God you are such a bore, Ford!
Can the armchair geneticists get off of their high horses. The only way we can possibly get a definitive answer is to do laboratory tests.
Nah.. No need.. It's obvious it's his, right? 🤷🏾♀️
Nope, it's not!
It's called having an opinion. If you don't like it, maybe you should get off youtube.
Guilty or not, he is a fool if he returns.
They gave him "medical bail" with the assumption, I presume, that he would leave Liberia and not come back.
What a travesty of justice that the DNA test results can’t be released without him going back!
the maury show would have got this mystery solved. im surprised fifth estate didnt run thier own dna test and pay the mom a 1000$ or so for the childs swab
If DNA Proved he was the father don't you think they would fly those results? That baby doesn't look remotely like him.
I think that may be valid. If he is the father, they could prosecute, or at least make a case for future so-called 'missionaries' to tow the line. By the time the DNA tests were done David was already back in Canada. Messy business all the way around. Unfortunately, the focus has not been on this 15 yr old girl who does have a baby to care for despite who the father is. Nobody is stepping to help her as far as I could tell. Although the baby looked healthy. Still, they will both struggle. If it was that other 15 yr old boy who they also tested DNA who fathered the child, I hope they are doing something about that situation.
This case is a tragic one indeed. How could the people of Liberia pay him back the good things he did for their Country? It is very sad. Having been myself a victim of false accusations, which wrecked my carrier as a midwife in the United Kingdom, I do appreciate what traumatic experience he went through. To be framed of something one is far from doing, is emotionally, psychological & socially devastating.
I cannot believe that an obvious DNA test could be held in such secrecy. There is no resemblance of the child to David, just on looks alone.
It is sad that David's life's dream of helping people, had to be curtailed in such a
manner : so very ungrateful of the authorities in Liberia & especially his accusor!
I can see the end of this senseless story. I wish him all the best.
This young ladies child is not a malado.
Way to dark and absolutely looks nothing like Mr. David Waynes.
Case closed.
Ok armchair genetics Dr.
PATERNITY TEST would answer the questions
Jean 🤦🏽♂️ you almost can’t be serious.. it’s a black nappy head dark baby.. why the he’ll would ANYONE believe or think 🤔 he’s that kids father..?😂😂😂
Seems the girl just blamed him thinking he would be deported and she could protect the identity of the biological father.
As a woman, I understand how vulnerable children are and generally take the side of the victim. As an African woman, I also understand how vulnerable poor Africans are - especially at the hands of males (foreigners or not).
Initially, I thought it would be another story of this "good guy" abusing the locals, but early on, I could not truly believe he was guilty.
The baby. Come on, this child was as West African as they come. It's possible to have a dark-skinned child from a white person, but the hair, too? No, no, no. Even if David were from Somalia, I would still have my doubt.
Also, it's very easy to convince desperate people to lie. That woman's(victim's aunt) "shock" at David denying the $500 was not convincing at all. You can not imagine how good some people are at lying - literally jumping up and down and swearing on God and their children.
The truth is he may or may not have slept with her and was lucky that he did not impregnate her. Also, his behavior may have been suspicious, but this is Liberia and it's very easy to assume a parental role and "cross the line" with regard to the abortion. Then again, it's that same arrogance as "village father" that may have led him to believe he could do whatever he wanted.
I still believe a lot of it was a set up to prevent him from going on with the prosecution of locals. Maybe he's a peado and they used that to also set him up - I doubt we'll ever know. The interesting fact is he probably slept with that girl a few times and people were aware of it. But the minute she was pregnant, they thought they could use her to silence him against his anti-rape mission.
+badjujuwan Do you think he slept with her?
Of all the comments I've read so far, yours (Badjujuwan) is the one I agree the most! But I really hope the truth will come out (has it?), as I will feel really sorry for this Canadian (or anyone) who has spent 3 decades of his life trying to do justice in another country and ends up being "rewarded" with injustice, if falsely accused.
badjujuwan Good comment. 👍👍👍
David Waines is my slumlord of a landlord, and can say without hesitation that what he speaks cannot be trusted. He has no respect for anything but himself, I have video footage of him leaving his demented father in the hot sun in my yard, and at The Home Depot for hours on end. Also of him forcing his adopted, disabled African child to mow a half acre of 4 foot tall grass with a powerless push mower, and things I cannot say on here because it is part of a pending court case. Karma is coming for you Waines. Do not sympathize with this man unless you are praying for him is my advice to all of you.
Wow. So what happened in the end?
I, too am confused about David Waines. It seems he has a sense of empowerment and his necessary role in the emergence of Liberia as a democratic country, which it is not. So many of these missionaries start believing in their own importance. He is a guest in Liberia and ergo, his influence will be limited so his Indiana Jones ism is inappropriate.
Umm...that's not a biracial baby. He is probably a creep but the baby is even darker than the mother. I always side eye these guys who go abroad to "help".
😂 So?
Ever heard about genetics?
He definitely can produce a black child by a black women.
There are even biracial couples who have two children, one black, one white..
Antilliaans /Surinaams still black, but biracial.. So.. 🤷🏾♀️
DNA is THE answer .
I'm not convinced that's his baby...and yes DNA would be the only way to confirm.....that baby does not seem to have any white on him....just saying g!!!!!
Ummmm I so wanted to believe him but when you listen to his answers he stutters & responds like a guilty liar. He is very confident when he talks about everything else.
True. Overconfident I'd say. Power does that to people. He was having a documentary made about him, as a hero, at the time. Maybe that put him over the edge of good judgement. Who knows.
DNA!!!!
the girl said very specifically, that the baby in her belly was davids. the baby is not half white, so it lends to the accusation being a lie.
I would NEVER go back to Liberia if I were him. You can't trust them.
I don't trust this man david one bit...he appears to me as a liar!
That girl seems to be telling the truth. Now that David is not in prison and is back home free, I think the least he can do is tell the truth. If he made a mistake and he regrets that, I think that all of us deserve to know.
You are blind. There is NO WHITE in that baby. He is NOT LYING. Most blacks in Africa do absolutely lie. I wouldn't give a plug nickel to any one in any country in Africa. Why any white or asian people continue to live in those countries astounds me.
he most likely really pissed off the wrong people...if he went after the wrong people who had connections it wouldn't be that hard to get some one to testify against him.
I was on anti malaria meds for a year while I was stationed in West Africa. Expensive and terrible side effects.
What's his situation or status now, in terms of the accusation?
Did the commenters here not watch the whole video? THEY DID A DNA TEST!!!!!
This is terribly suspect. 🤔 There's truth in the old adage, "... hiding in plain sight. ..." It's not all uncommon for predators to place themselves into a very religious-centered, and public/political space in order to not only be above suspect, but to know what's going on in and around his/her hunting ground. There's something not at all right with this guy. Hmmm.
This will be one of those stories in which the actual truth is ever known.
He took her to hospital... so why? It doesn't sound good for him but the kid I dont think it's his. But he sounds just a bit odd ...
is there any follow up on this story?
In my opinion, in my heart he's not the father of that child!
Well, a lot of us disagree.
This man is disgusting, I do not feel good about him at all
Go study genetics. Of course he could have fathered that child.
Ssst... You are being a smart as.. 😉
That child IS NOT biracial!!!! Though the guy seems creepy hes not the father!!!
Wow sad story. This dude is not the father of that baby smh
Whatever someone preaches the loudest against is almost ALWAYS the very thing they do themselves.
All I wanted was to see the baby..there is no way it's his...come on now. He could have done it- hopefully not, but the baby is not his.
If he is certain he is not the father, he should have no qualms about standing trial.
I have no idea if he did or didn't do it. However, people keep mentioning DNA: if he DIDN'T do it then the Liberians have a vested interest in NOT having one done. Kind of makes you wonder 🤷♀️
I believe he had heard that she was telling things before they came to arrest him. He new what would happen if he was arrested. The laws he pushed came back to bit him in the butt.
This is seen SO MANY TIMES a man does a lot of good, but also do the worst crime against children
Everytime I watch a show about this guy I get a yucky feeling. I'm pretty sure he's guilty
There's something not right about him, it appears.
I agree. Having the kids chant his name does not seem very Christian. His language is also questionable.
Plus he's free now because the girls offspring was OBVIOUSLY the product of two black parents.
It's not hard to believe he did it if priest can do it to little boys
Priests are crafty though , they have worked out that they can't get little boys pregnant !.
The baby defo not this,as for the rest of the story only he knows..
He needs to return to Liberia and stand trial. If he's truly innocent than he should have nothing to worry about, why is Canada harboring a wanted fugitive?
sorry for the typos he is not guilty the baby is too African looking I am black and I can tell that they tried to railroad you. I
love you David wants for all your goodwill and don't ever go back to that evil country.
With all do respect but I don't trust this david waines fella🤔
me either
For a guy purportedly dedicated to combating injustice, his actions appear to be remiss of Irene's well-being. Why wouldn't David show more concern over finding Irene's real perpetrator? Perhaps David could have gone into more detail as to who specifically would want to see him behind bars? Then again, this is an edited film. There could be lots of evidence that did not make it into the final cut.
for all of his claims of needing urgent medical care, he looks VERY healthy & well fed & has no problem moving and if there is something so terribly wrong with his hands, he's having no trouble carrying luggage & moves very lithely. does anyone else see this ? or is it just me ?
I saw that. But he did spend time in hospital before his return so maybe that helped. I think his relief at being home was enough to make him grateful, and nimble. I did notice the pics of his fingers. If he is guilty, let that be his punishment for life!
UH, did you watch the entire thing? smd.. try again
He has the most horrible grey pallor. His fingers were obviously gnarled.
He might have been doing the Lords' will , however the Lord had other plans for him !.
2019, where is he now?
He's back in Canada. The baby was full black and did not have his DNA. He wasn't guilty.
Maybe this is another example of ‘no good deed goes unpunished’ He spent his entire life helping these ppl and this is his reward..
That baby has no white and now Liberia has lost so much! .
why not just get a DNA test done to see if it is his baby
darrin goodbrand did you not pay attention while you were watching?
I don't know what David is doing down there, but I do know that is not his baby! That baby is 110% AFRICAN AMERICAN!
Lol! How in the world is that baby bi-racial?
I personally don't think it is.
Seems strange he would rather live under the suspicion of being a child rapist than go back and clear his name if he knows it can't be his kid. I would assume a truly innocent person would jump at the chance...
The justice system in Liberia is hardly something he can count on to be "just".
You must watch the programme with the intention of trying to understand its contents.
why doesnt he request a paternity test to clear it all up. Seems a simple thing to do.
on the trucks it is written US AID and he is a Canadian christian missionary, very transparent.
who pays for all that
oh dear, that is not a white man's child
kiwis 🥝 absolutely right baby 👶
i wonder what happened to that book david was talking about
Couldn't they have done dna of the baby?
Well of course, but white privilege is everlasting
The Liberian authorities should stop playing games and disclose the DNA test results, just the rapist would be hurt.
"Why,yes your honour,I was at the forefront of implementing a law that prohibits bail and up to life imprisonment for statutory rape and then broke said law".Hmmmmmm
The look of the kid say it all.
He doesn't look innocent.
This man is guiltyyyyyyy....
David's a Amazing guy
I don't know. I never believed and trust in people like him, because people who are overly trying to be liked the way he did always seems fishy to me
ALL DOGS
Sounds more like he was a celebrity.
Without the beard, he looks like Dr. Dubrow from Botch lol..
"charges trumped up" - sounds like he's guilty of something...
that is not his baby ... liars fraud lol
He is not the father of this baby......not a chance, the baby is black 100%....
Why not pay a private reputable investigator to get the dna of that child in anyway possible?
I used to think organized religion was primarily a tool used to comfort, to give people who needed it, a sense of control over fate and the unknown. But the longer I live the more I equate religion with intolerance. The need to save (clean up) a "dark Africa" being a prime example.
To itseemedtoher: it wasn't meant to be any way other than good but as usual mankind finds a way to corrupt everything good. It still depends on each individual's moral code.
FYI: "hell & damnation are
never full; the eyes of man are never satisfied"(Bible)
I hope D wasn't guilt,hope that child did not have to go thru that,I hope God's word was not disgraced again. I wish religious organizations would return to practicing God instead of practicing organizations.
GOD BLESS!
How about a DNA test ?!
Has no one ever heard of a polygraph yes they aren't 100% but it's a good indicator of who is not telling 100% truth
A real simple answer is just do a praternity test then we don't need to question this anymore no
Here we go again, talking over the girl because of her Liberian accent, just put subtitles for the people who have never heard foreign accents. The rest of us can understand her just fine without the voice-over!
They probably did that to disguise her voice too actually, since they said they we're protecting her identity because of her being underage.
Change your tampon
Umm, this show is a CBC production that was broadcast in CANADA only. They did this to help the CANADIAN viewers who don't want to read subtitles. Be thankful to the CBC for uploading this content
Broflake triggered.
some people get offended by aaaanything LOL
Where is Dna proof of paternity?
I understand, how much he wants to help. But, he involves in something that he should it to their governments and yes, it's corrupted! The jail system in these Countries are very nasty, and crowded.
David was uncovering all that evil and was trying to help everyone, looks like he had to be pushed out the picture to me.