China 🇨🇳 Math Olympiad - Geometry - Find the length Y?

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  • @MathAPlus
    @MathAPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Math Olympiad 2009 - Algebra - Find f(x)??
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  • @dhruvakhera5011
    @dhruvakhera5011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    solved by cosine rule and biquadratic i.e. full algebra but your method is superior

    • @matheusgarciagoncalves8405
      @matheusgarciagoncalves8405 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you arrive at this biquadratic equation? What is its form? I tried to do it for y, x, and for u (the name I gave to the red line), but in all cases, I arrived at very complicated equations due to irrational terms (variables inside square roots). I tried to isolate the irrational terms to square both terms, but it only made the equation look worse… Could you explain?”

    • @nadonadia2521
      @nadonadia2521 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me also
      here are the equations
      y²=(x+5)²+3² pythagore
      c²=a²+b²-2ab cos(angle)
      5²=(9+x²)+y²-2 sqrt(9+x²)y (sqrt(2)/2)
      5²=(9+x²)+y²- sqrt(9+x²) y sqrt(2)
      with pythagore equation we obtain
      25=(9+x²)+((x+5)²+3²)- sqrt(9+x²) sqrt((x+5)²+3²) sqrt(2)
      2x²+10x+18= sqrt(2) sqrt(9+x²) sqrt((x+5)²+9)
      4(x²+5x+9)²=2((x+5)²+9) (9+x²)
      2((x²)²+10x³+43x²+90x+81)=(x²)²+10x³+43x²+90x+306
      (x²)²+10x³+43x²+90x-144=0
      x=1 is a solution
      we divide (x²)²+10x³+43x²+90x-144 by x-1
      (x²)²+10x³+43x²+90x-144=(x³+11x²+54x+144)(x-1)
      is there another solution if there is
      (x³+11x²+54x+144)=0 or (x³+54x)+(11x²+144))=0
      (11x²+144) is always posifif, in order to have a solution we must have x³+54x less the zero
      x³+54x=x(x²+5) , x³+54x is less then zero if only if x is less then 0, in this case it is not a solution because it is a distance.
      x=1 is the only solution and y=sqrt(45).

  • @katzmikehd
    @katzmikehd ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about using tangens to get the lenght of the middle line. With Pythagoras you will get x. And with x you get y

    • @MathAPlus
      @MathAPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No unique way to solve. Using trigonometric function works as well 👍

    • @bayareapianist
      @bayareapianist ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@MathAPlus So this is NOT an Olympiad question if it can be solved by a calculator!

  • @nadonadia2521
    @nadonadia2521 ปีที่แล้ว

    i can't belive it i spent more then an hour and you did it in ten minutes and with a brillant methode, unfortunately i have to leave mathematics.

  • @xufengzhi9006
    @xufengzhi9006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Your channel is gonna help me a lot(from a subscriber)

  • @Justsomebodyoninternet
    @Justsomebodyoninternet ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Solved it using trigonometry btw can you tell me this question was of which class

  • @harsh3198
    @harsh3198 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought using cosine rule but can’t solve equations

    • @dhruvakhera5011
      @dhruvakhera5011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same lol i ended up with a biquadratic could have solved it but x=1 guess and check possible only

  • @harsh3198
    @harsh3198 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am kinda bad in geometry what should I do

    • @MathAPlus
      @MathAPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will post more videos stay tune

  • @darkzonegaming9169
    @darkzonegaming9169 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know the triangle you made and the other triangle are equal, what if they are similar

    • @MathAPlus
      @MathAPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same angles and lengths means both are equal. Just same angles mean similar

  • @tapiolankiira1968
    @tapiolankiira1968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fuzzy drawings and dirty fingernails

    • @muditchaturvedi5276
      @muditchaturvedi5276 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does it have to do with his mathematical skills ?