The gear oil I recommend for the Toyota C50 and C52 transmissions as well as any other manual transmission that requires 75W90 gear oil: amzn.to/2VWth1i
I rebuilt my Toyota G52 five speed myself. Alone. Outside. Under my giant old cottonwood tree. I had never even seen the inside of a manual transmission. I have the factory manual which is written for someone completely familiar with the procedure so there is NO explanatory material. It's written in the mode of "grasp new part between thumb and fore finger. Install new part". I took pictures during tear down and that helped. When I began this project I didn't understand how manuals worked. When I got done I still didn't understand. I also still had the problem I rebuilt it for - the infamous first gear kick out. After much thought I came to the logical conclusion that the 1-2 shift fork was worn out. Never having seen a new one I didn't understand that it indeed was completely wiped out. When I got the new one it was pretty obvious but I was pleased that at least I had figured it out. First gear is still a bit tight, I think the 1-2 slider I replaced isn't in love with the original hub yet, but the transmission works. Sometime during the two weeks I spent figuring out what was causing the first gear kick out to still be there the light came on. Suddenly I understood how it worked. To think that this transmission design was engineered in I'm guessing the early 1900's. The basic design is the same now as it was designed then. Whoever thought up this design should get the recognition they are due and have a documentary about them. The design is utter genius.
I like your creativity with tools. True technician spirit! But I do have one remark. The differential has tapered bearings. This is because a tapered bearing can take radial as well as axial load. But to do this in a proper way, they need to have a pretension (0,15-0,20 mm). So you need a shim under the outer ring of the bearing. This way it will be less noisy and the bearing will last longer.
I was heating a horseshoe and set it down on the bench when my talkative neighbor walked in. Curiosity got the best of him and he picked up the shoe and then threw it down. I asked him "A bit warm?" He said "No. It doesn't take me too long to look at a horseshoe."
That's awesome! Your neighbor is either very quick witted or has more experience than he should with touching things for no good reason. Either way I approve of his message. Two months ago I burned my fingers severely after plunging them into a container filled with play sand that had been super heated a half hour prior. I was surprised at how long it remained at such a high temperature
nice video , still even the internals of some of these manual transmissions are difficult for me still to do correctly. But by looking at all these manual and automatic transmission videos so far i am seeing no major special tools other then snap rings pliers and general mechanics bits /socket sets. It seems the hardest part about transmission rebuilds is keeping everything put back exactly how you took it off. Which have tons of components to keep track of so make it difficult without practice to get right the first time.
Finish watching this video and no way I can find a mechanic with such expertise and capability in my country since manual transmission is rare now. Most mechanic will recommend to replace the whole gearbox. My Getrag 220 in E36 318i can only spend the balance of lifespan. Still shifting fine but a bit sticky. Thanks for the video anyway. Great work there 👍
At 10:37, arrow on reverse idler shaft has to point in that directions because reverse idler shaft lock bolt has to screw in it at 11:24. Just pointing that out.
On a 2011 Mazda 3i... In changing out my clutch I opened my gear box by mistake. I also accidently knocked loose the exterior selector lever assembly which connects to the shifter cables-I think I've got that fixed. I'm not sure I put the transmission back together right. When I went to replace the gear box oil it began spilling out rather fast. Hopefully it's just a new axle seal that's needed, something I've already ordered. If it turns out due to my error my transmission needs to be rebuilt I know that it's time to take it to someone who knows what they're doing. LIke you guys.
How did he install the 5th gear? At 13:39 it shows him tapping it on with a socket to start it. Then he starts the big nut. Then you hold up the bag of the 5th gear to show the part number. Then at 14:09 the 5th gear is installed. If you press the 5th gear on, the shaft can't be supported from the other end and you'll damage the case. Toyota requires a special tool 09309-12020 to install this gear. Did he press the 5th gear on by tightening the big nut with an impact wrench?
Yes the 5th gear was installed by tightening the nut. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Transmission has done a lot of miles since, zero issues, fifth gear is rock solid. No case damage. The man doing this rebuild has rebuilt several thousand transmissions, and has experience and skill that is hard to explain. Special tools are meant to standardise procedures so that even unskilled labor can do the job. If you think there's only one right way to do something, always think again. I learned that lesson many times over.
@@d4a Right, there would only be case damage if the fifth gear was pressed on the output shaft with a press because the output shaft can't be supported from underneath. Thanks for clarifying that the 5th gear was pressed on by tightening the big nut. Sounds like a good method.
nice vid. one comment, tho. wouldn't it be easier to insert the teeth with the selector on the hub outside of the trans, instead of doing it after the hub is already pressed onto the shaft?
I like the video, but there few a things that you could have researched and did on own, like if wanted to change the 5th sinkrow or 5 gear.. You could just oopened the back end of box, taken the 5th sinkrow or 5 gear on your own, bought new parts and installed but yourself.. I didn't like when the guy took the casing of the Twincam gearbox used the Victor Reinz sealer, but didn't let sealer get tacky so the sealor bonded stronger forming a better seal for the gearbox casing..
Excellent reference! I had the 5-speed in my 2009 Pontiac Vibe (same as Toyota Matrix / Corolla) rebuilt due to a bad input shaft bearing and some worn synchros. About 4k miles after the rebuild, the trans got stuck in reverse internally (shift cables and linkages are fine). Do you think this could have been due to the rebuild going wrong, or is it unrelated?
Hi driving for answers Would you mind looking at some pictures? The tran is popping out of 4th gear. But the gear is quite expensive. In your video you talked about flipping the coupling sleeve?
To me i think it be easy to put back together or more easy. Provided i understood the point of each internal component and why its there but as of current i only understand the major components aka planetary gears, some o-rings, some washers, transmission pump , ...etc but the amount where everything is need and why is still fuzzy more for the automatics. Even some internals of manuals a little fuzzy to. Not major components but there is tons of small components that leave me questioning what would happen if i took it out , what is major purpose / affect is... i guess on tinkering around/practicing would give you this insight.
Surprised a shop like this didn't have the right tools for pulling that bearing out of the blind hole and resorted to using the hackery (which worked, no doubt). But easier with the right tools !
I recently had my c50 rebuilt for $1,200. I think that's all they did to mine too, because they did it in a week or less. It would most likely take awhile to get the parts from Toyota. A rebuilt kit can probably be gotten just about any auto parts store.
+Steve O I can lift and carry it. I'm of average strength I guess. But it is heavy and it's a real effort. I can carry it like 10 steps and then I need to put it down.
Thanks for the video:)I'm not familiar at all with transmissions but I have 1998 Toyota corolla VE manual transmission and when I shift dawn 1st & 2nd gears it feels really hard! I have to play with it at least a couple of times for it to get to gear. I want to do the work mystery because I really like the mechanic work I think is freaking awesome! Have you seen this same problem before and is so what do you think it is?By the way I lent to say that the car has 130,000 miles
+danny Does it make grinding sound when you shift? If it does than that's most likely a syncro. I would not recommend doing the transmission yourself if you are a novice mechanic. I rebuilt my engine myself but did not do the transmission. Opened it up, took a look, closed it and took to a professional. Engine to transmission is like lego duplo to lego technic :)
Want to ask you if it's worth rebuilding a trans which had some water mixed into the oil - I see that some bearing races have black marks which can be felt with finger. So I'm guessing that shafts might have the same marks and just replacing the needle bearings which sir between the shafts and gears might not be enough. What would you do?
@@fastboatster Gears and synchros fail because of mechanical damage (a lot of poor shifting etc) they would likely be able to take diluted oil better than the bearings and shafts. If its a common transmission just junk it as you will always have second thoughts about it. You might rebuild and then it fails after just a few thousand miles. The risk isn't worth it in my opinion. But it all depends on the type of car and what you expect to get out of it.
@@d4a it's relatively common but very expensive. I'm actually looking at the mechanical part of Audi dual clutch transmission. I guess I might have to think about it for a while, might not find the replacement bearings after all, although they do seem to look like common tapered roller bearings.
why do some videos you gotta press the hub with the machine while other videos I seen you dont have to use any machine at all and just drop the gears into shaft.
Why not cleaning the case and the cleanable parts in a cleaner? And why cleaning the control shaft gasket surface after everything is assembled? Dust goes in, even if you clothblock it, you can't get all the dust out with removal of the cloth. Dust also sits on the shafts, and the places where the 5th gear goes. The process logic definitely has to be reviewed. Try to write it together, analyze and perfect it in every aspect.
complex field transmission specialist is as its not just ripping out a transmission and installing a new one. They have to understand how to build them from scratch internals out.
will do. but have yet to put my engine together. waiting for cams and some other parts. so you will wait a bit. its pretty straightforward. get a timing light and twist the distributor. but i will make a video when the time comes, and will explain it better than this. thanks for watching.
If possible make the video much more faster so that only the expert technicians who have been doing this job as part of their profession can follow your videos
Question if you know. My C52 has a leaking oil seal at the shift shaft.Did you replace the oil seal there or do happen to know the part number or if the gasket kit you can buy comes with it? Do you think it is possible to replace with the transmission in the car? It looks like it should be possible but can't find any information of than what is in the MR2 repair manual. Can you still buy the dust boot new for the shift shaft as well?
I didn't replace the oil seal at the shift shaft. Wasn't leaking, I hope it won't leak once I reinstall everything. The kit doesn't come with it. Here's the part number if you want to give it a try at your local toyota dealer: 90311-15003. This is from toyodiy.com, so the number might have been changed or updated, but your dealer should be able to source it based on this number. The dust boot part number is 33531-17010. Mine survived the abuse so I didn't check for a new one at the dealer. I gave it a big dose of silicone spray a few days before the rebuild, to prepare it for the abuse when its taken off. Maybe it helped. Whether its possible to remove the shift shaft seal while in the car, I really don't know. I myself would not try it. Its really tricky to get the shift shaft back in as you have to align the forks so it fits. Imagine having to do it while diving into the MR2s engine bay....probably with your feet in the sky.
Thank you SO MUCH...I have been posting all over the place (forums, facebook) and even emailed the Lithia toyota forum person to no avail. I think you've been posting on one of the forums right? Either way, you rule!
+Bigbacon No problem, glad I could help. Check out toyodiy.com for part numbers, a great source. I have a huge thread on on the mr2 board forum. I'm bugging the super experienced guys all the time :)
one last question, when you are removing/installing the shift shaft, assuming the transmission is in neutral, is there anything special you need to do when doing this? Do you have twist it or anything to get it out/in and then how do you know that it is back in the correct spot before you put the lock bolt back in?
+Bigbacon If i remember correctly all gears need to be in neutral for removal and installation. You will have to test after installing. Switch through the gears and spin the input shaft and watch the output shafts. They should spin with a bit of effort and of course make more revolutions as you go up through the gears. I don't know of another way to be sure its installed right before driving it.
driving 4 answers The Speed gears connected to the counter shaft gears. How do they secure. The Gears which connect to the output shaft hub or the ones that are constantly connected to the counter input shaft. English isn't my language. My apologies.
eventfulnonsense I think I kinda get it now. The bearings are pressed on the shaft. You need a gear puller to get them off. The sleeves are secured with keys and a spring. You can check tiyodiy.com, there's a detailed exploded view of this transmission and you can see it all there.
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Antonin Martin This isn't me assembling the thing. I tokk the transmission to a mechanic who assembled more transmissions then it would be sensible to count. He didn't torque anything. He just took a glance at all the torque values, said there isn't anything extraordinary and did it all by feel. I know it might sound wrong but the transmission works and feels amazing.
Yup I guess that by experience you can acquire a feel for torquein deed, very nice job on the motor anyway, glad you're still enjoying you MR2 I'm hoping to get my hands on one soon, shame it is very hard to fnd one under 200k km, how much did yours had ? Greetings from France
Antonin Martin Don't worry too much about low miles. Low mileage guarantees not nothing. If the car was sitting for too long it will need a rebuild probably. Mine had 259.000km.
I guess you're right, that means it has to be rebuild no matter what... Thank you for your time man, I appreciate talking with an mr2 enthousiast, and cost wise how much did you spend overall roughly ? (price may vary in your contry I'm sure but this will give me an idea) And would you do it again ? XD I will check all of your videos, you pobably already answered, sorry for that
Antonin Martin I lost count of the money, but I'm guessing around 6.000 euros for the engine and transmission rebuild. Might be more. You can save quite a bit if you are willing to do a lot of the work yourself. I caught the bug and I would definitely do it again. I'm already thinking about the next project. Maybe turboing this engine or getting another car. If I had the time and money I would spend all day tinkering around cars and driving them. It's an addiction.
Make it Mike is absolutely right. You are not teaching . You are making a mockery in the name of teaching. To teach you explain everything slowly. Are you in a hurry to go to moon or to Mars ?
+Gplus sucks big Which can also have failed synchros and bearings and you have no way of checking if it's any good. Yes this is more expensive, but in the end you know exactly what you have.
A new named brand a/c compressor (eg sanden) costs 200 eur/usd, why buy used? A new transmission is in the thousands and I was quoted 650eur for a transmission rebuild
Gplus sucks big clueless muppet all the used transmission are rubbish here in Australia we have so many 4age ,and the gearbox’s have my issue so no point waste of money just rebuild,too funny seem like you wouldn’t have a clue on how to put together a manual transmission.sad my missus can change a timing belt .stfu you tight ass ,go get a used transmission he said clueless
@@Luckingsworth funny, I learnt to build auto gearboxes over the last 5 years and my boss never had me "learning" like this, but I guess you would know better. You do the jobs on your own in your own way and ask if you need information, no need to just stand around. You learn nothing from watching.
The gear oil I recommend for the Toyota C50 and C52 transmissions as well as any other manual transmission that requires 75W90 gear oil: amzn.to/2VWth1i
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I rebuilt my Toyota G52 five speed myself. Alone. Outside. Under my giant old cottonwood tree.
I had never even seen the inside of a manual transmission. I have the factory manual which is written for someone completely familiar with the procedure so there is NO explanatory material. It's written in the mode of "grasp new part between thumb and fore finger. Install new part".
I took pictures during tear down and that helped. When I began this project I didn't understand how manuals worked. When I got done I still didn't understand. I also still had the problem I rebuilt it for - the infamous first gear kick out. After much thought I came to the logical conclusion that the 1-2 shift fork was worn out. Never having seen a new one I didn't understand that it indeed was completely wiped out. When I got the new one it was pretty obvious but I was pleased that at least I had figured it out. First gear is still a bit tight, I think the 1-2 slider I replaced isn't in love with the original hub yet, but the transmission works.
Sometime during the two weeks I spent figuring out what was causing the first gear kick out to still be there the light came on. Suddenly I understood how it worked. To think that this transmission design was engineered in I'm guessing the early 1900's. The basic design is the same now as it was designed then. Whoever thought up this design should get the recognition they are due and have a documentary about them. The design is utter genius.
try suzuki DA53 or DA65...😁
Champion well done
Best type of DIY video ever! Quick, no-nonsense, no random chatter, no draaawling descriptions. Thanks! I'm ready to try it myself.
Really? I'd much rather have a voice over explanation than distracting music and text
Can't tell you how many times I've watched this video lol I've never done a transmission rebuild, but definitely wanna learn. Excellent video! 🤙
Same here
I like your creativity with tools. True technician spirit!
But I do have one remark. The differential has tapered bearings. This is because a tapered bearing can take radial as well as axial load. But to do this in a proper way, they need to have a pretension (0,15-0,20 mm). So you need a shim under the outer ring of the bearing. This way it will be less noisy and the bearing will last longer.
I was heating a horseshoe and set it down on the bench when my talkative neighbor walked in. Curiosity got the best of him and he picked up the shoe and then threw it down. I asked him "A bit warm?" He said "No. It doesn't take me too long to look at a horseshoe."
+obsolete professor Hahaha!
That's awesome! Your neighbor is either very quick witted or has more experience than he should with touching things for no good reason. Either way I approve of his message. Two months ago I burned my fingers severely after plunging them into a container filled with play sand that had been super heated a half hour prior. I was surprised at how long it remained at such a high temperature
nice video , still even the internals of some of these manual transmissions are difficult for me still to do correctly. But by looking at all these manual and automatic transmission videos so far i am seeing no major special tools other then snap rings pliers and general mechanics bits /socket sets. It seems the hardest part about transmission rebuilds is keeping everything put back exactly how you took it off. Which have tons of components to keep track of so make it difficult without practice to get right the first time.
Finish watching this video and no way I can find a mechanic with such expertise and capability in my country since manual transmission is rare now. Most mechanic will recommend to replace the whole gearbox. My Getrag 220 in E36 318i can only spend the balance of lifespan. Still shifting fine but a bit sticky. Thanks for the video anyway. Great work there 👍
I already like this video simply because you are the first person I've ever seen apologise for portrait filming :P haha
What ever, looks like you've got the right mechanic to me.
one of the best videos ever I wish you were my teacher, you make it look easy and fun,
At 10:37, arrow on reverse idler shaft has to point in that directions because reverse idler shaft lock bolt has to screw in it at 11:24. Just pointing that out.
At 3:15 I became curious what type of soft vise jaws you used to prevent damaging the shaft.
Thank you. Very very much, Ive been watching for so long.. always had hope.. you're the best with the best, at the best.
great overhaul video though! love it!
Excellent video. I learned a lot.
Great video, I do have a simple question though; What kind of puller did you use, and whould a simple splitter type puller be able to do the job?
On a 2011 Mazda 3i...
In changing out my clutch I opened my gear box by mistake. I also accidently knocked loose the exterior selector lever assembly which connects to the shifter cables-I think I've got that fixed. I'm not sure I put the transmission back together right. When I went to replace the gear box oil it began spilling out rather fast. Hopefully it's just a new axle seal that's needed, something I've already ordered. If it turns out due to my error my transmission needs to be rebuilt I know that it's time to take it to someone who knows what they're doing. LIke you guys.
gracias a ti pude volver armar mi transmision :) thanks !!
Do you Have a Video For MK2 Mr2?? This is perfect! My car is The 2nd gen Mr2
How did he install the 5th gear? At 13:39 it shows him tapping it on with a socket to start it. Then he starts the big nut. Then you hold up the bag of the 5th gear to show the part number. Then at 14:09 the 5th gear is installed. If you press the 5th gear on, the shaft can't be supported from the other end and you'll damage the case. Toyota requires a special tool 09309-12020 to install this gear. Did he press the 5th gear on by tightening the big nut with an impact wrench?
Yes the 5th gear was installed by tightening the nut. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Transmission has done a lot of miles since, zero issues, fifth gear is rock solid. No case damage. The man doing this rebuild has rebuilt several thousand transmissions, and has experience and skill that is hard to explain. Special tools are meant to standardise procedures so that even unskilled labor can do the job. If you think there's only one right way to do something, always think again. I learned that lesson many times over.
@@d4a Right, there would only be case damage if the fifth gear was pressed on the output shaft with a press because the output shaft can't be supported from underneath. Thanks for clarifying that the 5th gear was pressed on by tightening the big nut. Sounds like a good method.
You're amazing man
AMAZING JOB !
nice vid. one comment, tho. wouldn't it be easier to insert the teeth with the selector on the hub outside of the trans, instead of doing it after the hub is already pressed onto the shaft?
thanks for sharing you knowledge!!!
brilliant video ... I can see why this sin't a diy job!!
how many decades it takes to do this job ? and about how much it cost ?
I like the video, but there few a things that you could have researched and did on own, like if wanted to change the 5th sinkrow or 5 gear.. You could just oopened the back end of box, taken the 5th sinkrow or 5 gear on your own, bought new parts and installed but yourself.. I didn't like when the guy took the casing of the Twincam gearbox used the Victor Reinz sealer, but didn't let sealer get tacky so the sealor bonded stronger forming a better seal for the gearbox casing..
Excellent reference! I had the 5-speed in my 2009 Pontiac Vibe (same as Toyota Matrix / Corolla) rebuilt due to a bad input shaft bearing and some worn synchros. About 4k miles after the rebuild, the trans got stuck in reverse internally (shift cables and linkages are fine). Do you think this could have been due to the rebuild going wrong, or is it unrelated?
very good and informative video - helped us a lot
Jacob Dragsted Happy to hear it helped. Thank you for your comment.
Hi driving for answers
Would you mind looking at some pictures? The tran is popping out of 4th gear. But the gear is quite expensive. In your video you talked about flipping the coupling sleeve?
How much did the work cost? I have a grind in 3rd gear and am thinking of getting my CF52 rebuilt.
Very nice What country are you?
To me i think it be easy to put back together or more easy. Provided i understood the point of each internal component and why its there but as of current i only understand the major components aka planetary gears, some o-rings, some washers, transmission pump , ...etc but the amount where everything is need and why is still fuzzy more for the automatics. Even some internals of manuals a little fuzzy to. Not major components but there is tons of small components that leave me questioning what would happen if i took it out , what is major purpose / affect is... i guess on tinkering around/practicing would give you this insight.
Surprised a shop like this didn't have the right tools for pulling that bearing out of the blind hole and resorted to using the hackery (which worked, no doubt). But easier with the right tools !
Hackery! Lol. They did have something, but after being unable to find it for 2 mins they gave up and hackery stepped on the scene.
I too was surprised to see screw drivers and a hammer used rather that circlip pliers but it worked.
I hit like by just reading he’s hones apologies of the video format resolution.👍🏼
Thanks for this guys.In the process of putting mine together right now.What would a shop charge for this job?
Excellent video you guys thanks!
So the sliding coupling sleeve and second gear doesn't need to be replaced after all the "grinding gears"?
Nope. Just the synchro
I recently had my c50 rebuilt for $1,200. I think that's all they did to mine too, because they did it in a week or less. It would most likely take awhile to get the parts from Toyota. A rebuilt kit can probably be gotten just about any auto parts store.
It would be nice if you mentioned what transmission you are working on !
It would be nice if you read the first sentence of the video description
how do you know which bolt goes where when they are all in one bin? This must be all done in one day or else you forget
kize32 Yup, was done in a few hours actually.
would be good if you guys could do a E150F box but defiantly good knowledge good effort guys.
How did it shift between 3rd and 4th gear? I noticed the shift collar was reinstalled upside down... Just curious if you noticed anything funny...
It shifted ok, but the mechanic noticed signs of wear so we flipped it around. Still shifts great but it should have some more life in it now.
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+mediteran Odpozdrav. Glad someone recognized the legendary Suad Hota :)
Can you tell me the approximate weight of this transmission? Can one person lift and carry it?
+Steve O I can lift and carry it. I'm of average strength I guess. But it is heavy and it's a real effort. I can carry it like 10 steps and then I need to put it down.
Great movie, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video:)I'm not familiar at all with transmissions but I have 1998 Toyota corolla VE manual transmission and when I shift dawn 1st & 2nd gears it feels really hard! I have to play with it at least a couple of times for it to get to gear. I want to do the work mystery because I really like the mechanic work I think is freaking awesome! Have you seen this same problem before and is so what do you think it is?By the way I lent to say that the car has 130,000 miles
+danny Does it make grinding sound when you shift? If it does than that's most likely a syncro. I would not recommend doing the transmission yourself if you are a novice mechanic. I rebuilt my engine myself but did not do the transmission. Opened it up, took a look, closed it and took to a professional. Engine to transmission is like lego duplo to lego technic :)
It does not make the grinding noise, is just hard to shift.Thank you for the quick response!
Want to ask you if it's worth rebuilding a trans which had some water mixed into the oil - I see that some bearing races have black marks which can be felt with finger. So I'm guessing that shafts might have the same marks and just replacing the needle bearings which sir between the shafts and gears might not be enough. What would you do?
I really can't say anything, I would first have to see it in person. But based on what you're describing I would likely junk it.
@@d4a i see. Gears do look okay and are not rusty but bearing races have dark corrosion pitting
@@fastboatster Gears and synchros fail because of mechanical damage (a lot of poor shifting etc) they would likely be able to take diluted oil better than the bearings and shafts. If its a common transmission just junk it as you will always have second thoughts about it. You might rebuild and then it fails after just a few thousand miles. The risk isn't worth it in my opinion. But it all depends on the type of car and what you expect to get out of it.
@@d4a it's relatively common but very expensive. I'm actually looking at the mechanical part of Audi dual clutch transmission. I guess I might have to think about it for a while, might not find the replacement bearings after all, although they do seem to look like common tapered roller bearings.
why do some videos you gotta press the hub with the machine while other videos I seen you dont have to use any machine at all and just drop the gears into shaft.
Its just how transmissions are made. Some have gears that need to be pressed on and others are held in with snap rings
I want to learn how to repair transmissions breaks and cooling systems. My family and friends would save so much money.
Why not cleaning the case and the cleanable parts in a cleaner? And why cleaning the control shaft gasket surface after everything is assembled? Dust goes in, even if you clothblock it, you can't get all the dust out with removal of the cloth. Dust also sits on the shafts, and the places where the 5th gear goes. The process logic definitely has to be reviewed. Try to write it together, analyze and perfect it in every aspect.
complex field transmission specialist is as its not just ripping out a transmission and installing a new one. They have to understand how to build them from scratch internals out.
When you time your engine can you do a timing video please?
will do. but have yet to put my engine together. waiting for cams and some other parts. so you will wait a bit. its pretty straightforward. get a timing light and twist the distributor. but i will make a video when the time comes, and will explain it better than this. thanks for watching.
YOU FORGOT THE LAST CRUCIAL PART: HAND OVER THE CREDIT CARD...
So how much does all that cost?
simple and direct,
If possible make the video much more faster so that only the expert technicians who have been doing this job as part of their profession can follow your videos
Excellent
Thanks
Do you have a video on how to tear down NV 4500 Chevy transmission? Thanks for any help !!
blucas59 Nope sorry, just this one :)
Question if you know. My C52 has a leaking oil seal at the shift shaft.Did you replace the oil seal there or do happen to know the part number or if the gasket kit you can buy comes with it? Do you think it is possible to replace with the transmission in the car? It looks like it should be possible but can't find any information of than what is in the MR2 repair manual. Can you still buy the dust boot new for the shift shaft as well?
I didn't replace the oil seal at the shift shaft. Wasn't leaking, I hope it won't leak once I reinstall everything. The kit doesn't come with it. Here's the part number if you want to give it a try at your local toyota dealer: 90311-15003. This is from toyodiy.com, so the number might have been changed or updated, but your dealer should be able to source it based on this number.
The dust boot part number is 33531-17010. Mine survived the abuse so I didn't check for a new one at the dealer. I gave it a big dose of silicone spray a few days before the rebuild, to prepare it for the abuse when its taken off. Maybe it helped.
Whether its possible to remove the shift shaft seal while in the car, I really don't know. I myself would not try it. Its really tricky to get the shift shaft back in as you have to align the forks so it fits. Imagine having to do it while diving into the MR2s engine bay....probably with your feet in the sky.
Thank you SO MUCH...I have been posting all over the place (forums, facebook) and even emailed the Lithia toyota forum person to no avail.
I think you've been posting on one of the forums right?
Either way, you rule!
+Bigbacon No problem, glad I could help. Check out toyodiy.com for part numbers, a great source. I have a huge thread on on the mr2 board forum. I'm bugging the super experienced guys all the time :)
one last question, when you are removing/installing the shift shaft, assuming the transmission is in neutral, is there anything special you need to do when doing this? Do you have twist it or anything to get it out/in and then how do you know that it is back in the correct spot before you put the lock bolt back in?
+Bigbacon If i remember correctly all gears need to be in neutral for removal and installation. You will have to test after installing. Switch through the gears and spin the input shaft and watch the output shafts. They should spin with a bit of effort and of course make more revolutions as you go up through the gears. I don't know of another way to be sure its installed right before driving it.
The input gears are loosely attached to output shaft with just small sleeve bearings? how does it lock securely with the total weight of the vehicle?
+eventfulnonsense Sorry but I don't understand the question. Can you try explaining a bit more?
driving 4 answers The Speed gears connected to the counter shaft gears. How do they secure. The Gears which connect to the output shaft hub or the ones that are constantly connected to the counter input shaft. English isn't my language. My apologies.
eventfulnonsense I think I kinda get it now. The bearings are pressed on the shaft. You need a gear puller to get them off. The sleeves are secured with keys and a spring. You can check tiyodiy.com, there's a detailed exploded view of this transmission and you can see it all there.
driving 4 answers Thanks, I appreciate your reply Sir.
driving 4 answers
How to do without all the mechanic tools? I have a lot but no vice or the hydraulic press.
How you know when a manual transmission is going bad or is bad? (Not the clutch)
Grinding gears when you shift....gears popping out.
Pozdravii...Molim te ako nije tajna koliko te kostala ova generalka dijelovi i kolko ti je suad naolatio rad.Planiram i ja nesto vako da uradim jer vec dva puta radim mjenjac kod pogresnog majstora...Hvala i poz
+Trgovac77 Trgovac77 Komplet set za reparaciju porucen iz USA, u njemu sve od sinhrona, lezajeva itd itd za reparaciju. 300 $ plus 200 km carine i pdv. Nov zupcanik pete brzine i jos dosra djelova kupljeni novi od toyote, cca 600 km. Hota ruke 200 km, sto je iskreno kada se uzme u obzir znanje i rad prejeftino. Puno losiji mehanicar negdje na zapadu bi uzeo 500 eur za ovo. Mjenjac je bio spreman za otpada, sada radi ko san.
Apsolutno se slazem.Hvala na odgovoru possto nemam ni ja rjesenja nego uradit isto kao ti ,inace clio rs ph1 neunistiv motor ali mjenjac je losa strana .
Best regards...thanks for answer ..
nice video man, love this chanel,
something bothered me though, did you torque the thing right ? On a gearbox this matters right ?
Antonin Martin This isn't me assembling the thing. I tokk the transmission to a mechanic who assembled more transmissions then it would be sensible to count. He didn't torque anything. He just took a glance at all the torque values, said there isn't anything extraordinary and did it all by feel. I know it might sound wrong but the transmission works and feels amazing.
Yup I guess that by experience you can acquire a feel for torquein deed, very nice job on the motor anyway, glad you're still enjoying you MR2
I'm hoping to get my hands on one soon, shame it is very hard to fnd one under 200k km, how much did yours had ?
Greetings from France
Antonin Martin Don't worry too much about low miles. Low mileage guarantees not nothing. If the car was sitting for too long it will need a rebuild probably. Mine had 259.000km.
I guess you're right, that means it has to be rebuild no matter what...
Thank you for your time man, I appreciate talking with an mr2 enthousiast,
and cost wise how much did you spend overall roughly ? (price may vary in your contry I'm sure but this will give me an idea)
And would you do it again ? XD
I will check all of your videos, you pobably already answered, sorry for that
Antonin Martin I lost count of the money, but I'm guessing around 6.000 euros for the engine and transmission rebuild. Might be more. You can save quite a bit if you are willing to do a lot of the work yourself. I caught the bug and I would definitely do it again. I'm already thinking about the next project. Maybe turboing this engine or getting another car. If I had the time and money I would spend all day tinkering around cars and driving them. It's an addiction.
How many hours took you to rebuild it including take it apart and how much you charge for it?
I didn't do the work myself, I just filmed the mechanic doing it. It took about 2 hours to take it apart and 2-3 to put it together.
Thanks for this video, do you know if I can use the internals of a c56 to a c50?
You've probably figure it out by now, but for everyone else: yes, you can.
So you installed a differential without setting pre-load. Gona be a very noisy gearbox
Raymond Wilson I did over 1000 miles with it. Zero noise.
Either you are lying. Or you are lucky
good job, thnks
Perfect
Hope that mechanic got more than a pat on the back after having that camera on him for most the day. Not many would go for that.... COoL video though.
What would have been the cost of doing this as a consumer buying the service from a mechanic
+kombatkonn89 99% mechanics won't bother with this. The ones that will, will probably charge an arm and a leg.
Wheres the part where it "teaches" how to rebuild a manual transmission with explanation?
Make it Mike is absolutely right. You are not teaching . You are making a mockery in the name of teaching. To teach you explain everything slowly. Are you in a hurry to go to moon or to Mars ?
hi, do you sell any transmition parts?
Nope sorry
no differential backlash preload to set?
Looks like you re-used a lot of old rollers and old parts .
really wish you did not add music its better explaining
Videos that are made like this one not good!! You can't read and look at the repair at same time, am I right??
Well, we can tell when the cocaine wore off during the video editing process 🤷
In other words, don't try this yourself, right? Unless you want to do it 20 times before you get it right?
Yeah, pretty much lol. It's not impossible but it requires a lot of skill
Or go to a breakers and get a transmission for 1/20 of the cost
+Gplus sucks big Which can also have failed synchros and bearings and you have no way of checking if it's any good. Yes this is more expensive, but in the end you know exactly what you have.
drving 4 answers I completely agree. have experienced that once but with A/C compressors.
A new named brand a/c compressor (eg sanden) costs 200 eur/usd, why buy used?
A new transmission is in the thousands and I was quoted 650eur for a transmission rebuild
Gplus sucks big clueless muppet all the used transmission are rubbish here in Australia we have so many 4age ,and the gearbox’s have my issue so no point waste of money just rebuild,too funny seem like you wouldn’t have a clue on how to put together a manual transmission.sad my missus can change a timing belt .stfu you tight ass ,go get a used transmission he said clueless
I need a gear box kit for a toyota hiace 18 seater van year 2000 model
julia lewis and what do you want him to do about your problem wtf
julia lewis and what is a (gearbox kit) clueless troll
I enjoyed this video a lot more muted. The music was sooooo annoying!
nice
Thanks
mi palanca se pone dura
sorry but the music is a huge distraction.
Why you got 2 blokes on one job? do it by yourself lmao.
One to teach and one to learn. Keep trades alive. Thinking like yours has killed skilled labor in the US.
@@Luckingsworth funny, I learnt to build auto gearboxes over the last 5 years and my boss never had me "learning" like this, but I guess you would know better. You do the jobs on your own in your own way and ask if you need information, no need to just stand around. You learn nothing from watching.
@@Luckingsworth that other donny doesnt look like an apprentice to me lmfao 😂
Next time take out the music.
Great video but absolutely awful music.... Ears be bleeding
Remove the music, it is so annoying.
Had to turn off the sound.