Four Ways That PAS Is Actually Good...(?)

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  • @AziziOthmanMY
    @AziziOthmanMY 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Your balanced take on PAS's strengths and governance shortcomings fosters constructive dialogue, but highlighting their strategic acumen while exposing the oppressive policies in Kelantan can spark meaningful discussions and drive awareness for change. However, similar to the U.S., where bread-and-butter issues affected the election, Malaysia could face a similar situation where PAS becomes the majority across the Peninsular, raising concerns about current governance and the concentration of power. What happened in the states could happen in Malaysia too.

    • @VictorTan
      @VictorTan  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much for watching and for your take, Azizi!
      Yeah, there’s a chance that PAS could certainly become the majority - the question is, though, will Malaysians let it happen within this lifetime and in this current form?
      I think in this current form, the party is not fit for purpose and certainly not for the people it’s meant to serve, those whom it is deceiving 24/7 while pretending it is helping them, even as it undertakes to oppress non Muslims wherever it goes and abuses 3R while using manipulative election tactics.
      Will Malaysia be able to develop the tolerance to this kind of nonsense? Who knows - but it’s worthwhile for ALL of us to raise this to all Malaysians. Thanks for watching and for sharing as well if you choose to do so!

    • @tajabdullah.malaysia
      @tajabdullah.malaysia 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wow my comments deleted 🎉❤ blocked 🚫 too😊

    • @VictorTan
      @VictorTan  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tajabdullah.malaysia
      Your comments? Nope.
      I mean, I find it weird that you sometimes pray on my videos but I don't block your comments generally haha.

    • @nusantara3399
      @nusantara3399 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tajabdullah.malaysia dari pengalaman saya youtube delete komen anda bukan admin sebab saya kena banyak kali dah.

  • @ZenWaveFunction
    @ZenWaveFunction 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    King and Monarch along with their institutions shouldn’t be immune from criticism including parody/insult.
    And Going to back to the main point. No political parties regardless the nations are saints nor are they PANACEA to solve socio-economic-political problems since there’s no such thing as Panacea. As old British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli stated, there’s no finality to politics and to paraphrase it beyond politics; there’s no finality to evolution and life itself. And also here’s warning and quote from George Washington: “However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion. "

  • @PeeHoaSong-b2s
    @PeeHoaSong-b2s 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Votes must depend solely on the contribution of the elected candidate to the well being

    • @VictorTan
      @VictorTan  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Problem: How do you decide wellbeing? If some people decide their wellbeing is made better by a lebai promising the sky then how do you stop them since now what they deem as happiness is getting gaslighted? 🙃

  • @ChuanTeh
    @ChuanTeh 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do your homework many moon ago one top PAS leader said corruption is exchange of wealth, king and their familys have been overthrow by religion preachers is normal in a religion countries

    • @carrotsak
      @carrotsak 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Game of thrones. The 7 elders.

  • @YoonLeeKok
    @YoonLeeKok 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not the same vote when some votes are worth many times that of others.

  • @babablacksheep4234
    @babablacksheep4234 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watch out for that ali baba religion.

  • @meirm471
    @meirm471 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ... I don't think they go against their religion tbf...
    My guess is that the MB network employs people to report on videos and sites containing "uncomfortable facts".
    And the Moynihan law still exists "The amount of violations of human rights in a country is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints about human rights violations heard from there. The greater the number of complaints being aired, the better protected are human rights in that country."
    So... In the west you see a huge coverage of corruption and human rights whereas in dictatorships... Not so much.
    Even if you look at Syria, you see the prisons... And there's a part of you that just doesn't understand the scale and the context of it all (hell, even people much closer have trouble understanding it).
    I see PAS the same way all the other MB organizations run. As imho they are just localized versions of the original Egyptian MB. The money and propaganda is most likely Qatari.
    Are there any prominent anti PAS Muslims in Malaysia? Are there anti PAS youtubers who are Muslim?

    • @VictorTan
      @VictorTan  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s start with the basics and go with ChatGPT.
      Islam generally prohibits lying as a serious moral and ethical violation. However, there are specific and limited circumstances where lying may be permitted under Islamic teachings, and these exceptions are carefully constrained. Below, I explore the Sunni Islamic framework regarding lying, the concept of fitnah, and whether lying can ever be justified, particularly for political purposes like spreading political Islam.
      1. Lying and Its Prohibition in Islam
      • General Prohibition:
      Lying is categorically forbidden in Islam under normal circumstances. The Qur’an condemns lying as a sin:
      • “And do not conceal the truth while you know [it].” (Surah Al-Baqarah, 2:42)
      • “Indeed, Allah does not guide one who is a transgressor and a liar.” (Surah Ghafir, 40:28)
      • The Prophet Muhammad’s Teachings:
      The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) emphasized the importance of truthfulness:
      • “Truthfulness leads to righteousness, and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man continues to speak the truth and strives to be truthful until he is recorded with Allah as truthful. Lying leads to wickedness, and wickedness leads to Hellfire…” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
      • Exceptions to Lying:
      Sunni Islam recognizes only a few narrowly defined circumstances where lying may be permissible:
      1. In War: Deception is allowed during warfare to protect Muslim lives and ensure victory (e.g., military strategy).
      2. Reconciling Between People: Telling a falsehood to reconcile two parties in conflict is considered acceptable.
      3. Preserving Life: Lying to save a life when under duress or threat of harm may be justified.
      These exceptions are derived from a hadith:
      “Lying is not permissible except in three cases: (1) a man who speaks to make reconciliation between people, (2) a man who speaks in war, and (3) a man who speaks to his wife to make her happy.” (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Sahih by scholars)
      2. Fitnah (Slander and Chaos)
      • Definition:
      In Islamic jurisprudence, fitnah refers to chaos, sedition, or creating discord, as well as slander or false accusations. It is highly condemned:
      • “Fitnah is worse than killing.” (Surah Al-Baqarah, 2:191)
      • Lying as Fitnah:
      Deliberate deception or falsehoods that cause societal discord or harm individuals’ reputations can be considered fitnah. This applies to political contexts where lying misleads the public and creates division or harm.
      3. Can Lying Be Justified to Spread Political Islam?
      • No General Justification:
      Lying to promote political Islam is not justified in Sunni Islam. The ends (establishing political Islam) do not justify the means (lying), as this contradicts Islamic principles of honesty, justice, and truthfulness.
      • Accountability for Deception:
      Islam places a strong emphasis on being truthful and avoiding corruption in any form, including deception. Political Islam must be established through ethical means that align with Islamic teachings.
      • Misuse of War Exception:
      The exception for lying during war applies strictly to military deception and does not extend to misleading the public for political gain. Using this as a pretext for political lying would be an abuse of Islamic principles.
      4. Ethical Spread of Political Islam
      • Truthful Advocacy:
      Political Islam, like any ideology, should be spread through honest and transparent dialogue. The Qur’an commands Muslims to invite others to Islam with wisdom and good conduct:
      • “Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best.” (Surah An-Nahl, 16:125)
      • Accountability to Allah:
      Muslims believe they will be held accountable for their actions, including falsehoods told in the name of religion or politics. Engaging in deceit to promote Islam would ultimately undermine the integrity of the faith.
      5. Broader Implications of Lying
      • Trust and Credibility:
      Repeated lying erodes trust and credibility, both personally and politically. For a movement like political Islam, trust is essential to gaining support and legitimacy.
      • Harm to the Community:
      Facilitating or justifying lying could lead to societal fitnah, creating division and harm rather than unity under Islamic principles.
      • Example of the Prophet:
      The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) spread Islam with truth, patience, and ethical conduct, even under severe persecution. Using falsehoods would deviate from his example.
      Conclusion
      In Sunni Islam, lying is only permitted under rare and narrowly defined circumstances, such as during warfare or to reconcile people, and even then, it must serve a legitimate purpose without causing greater harm. Spreading political Islam through deceit and repeated lying is inconsistent with Islamic principles and could lead to fitnah, a grave sin. Advocacy for political Islam should be conducted ethically, truthfully, and in alignment with the Prophet Muhammad’s example.

    • @meirm471
      @meirm471 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @VictorTan ... Well, last time i checked chatgpt was using user created sources and my guess is that it uses a kind of ranking system. My other guess is that it uses the quantity of repeated answers as a coefficient in the ranking.
      So if you have deep pockets (like Qatar) you can game the system.
      You can see in your answer that it was gamed, as there was no mention of the Hudaybiya treaty.
      Now, with that said, there is a huge difference between the religions and their adherents. And most of the adherents either do not follow every letter of their scriptures, have religious authorities who interpret the text in a more modern way or simply do not know every single law (most Malaysians do not understand Arabic and therefore might follow a more peaceful version). So people should be treated according to their personal actions and not according to the religion they follow imho (with some caution though).

    • @VictorTan
      @VictorTan  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@meirm471
      Oh? And how does the treaty you cited contradict the idea that those who lie to spread ideology are in fact going against their religion?

    • @meirm471
      @meirm471 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @VictorTan , because if you are taught to follow the example of a person and that person in fact lied (according to the scriptures) to get an advantage you are essentially taught that lying to get an advantage is good.
      In the treaty he signed he agreed not to attack at least for 10 years iirc. Once he was strong enough (about 2 years into the treaty) he attacked and won.
      To this day it is used as a historical example.
      As an example from a conflict geographically far from you: On the record Arafat said to his people that the modern Oslo agreements he signed are the modern Hudaybiya treaty.
      Again, not a call to be against people of a faith (many people prefer adjusting their understanding of their faith as opposed to converting to a different religion as that might be very dangerous in some places).

    • @VictorTan
      @VictorTan  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @
      I’m not seeing how fitnah and supporting fitnah is in any way in alignment with these values, so my conclusion is that these people are certainly going against their religion, and it’s uncontroversial for Muslims in Malaysia to discover that this is the case.
      The Treaty of Hudaybiyyah is a significant event in Islamic history, celebrated for its strategic importance and its lessons in diplomacy, patience, and long-term planning. While some critics argue that it sets a precedent for “deception” in negotiations, this interpretation oversimplifies the treaty’s context and intent. Let’s examine the treaty, its historical context, and whether it teaches deception.
      1. What Was the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah?
      • Context:
      In 628 CE, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and about 1,400 of his followers traveled to Mecca intending to perform the pilgrimage (umrah). The Quraysh, who controlled Mecca, blocked their entry, leading to negotiations.
      • The Treaty:
      After negotiations at Hudaybiyyah, a 10-year truce was agreed upon between the Muslims of Medina and the Quraysh of Mecca. Key terms included:
      • Muslims would postpone their pilgrimage to Mecca until the following year.
      • Both sides would refrain from hostilities.
      • Any tribe or group could ally with either party.
      • If a Muslim from Mecca sought refuge in Medina, they would be returned, but if a Muslim from Medina defected to Mecca, they would not be returned.
      • Reaction:
      Many Muslims were initially disheartened, perceiving the treaty as unfavorable. However, the treaty allowed for the consolidation of Muslim power and the spread of Islam through peaceful means.
      2. Does the Treaty Teach Deception?
      The accusation that the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah teaches Muslims deception stems from its strategic nature rather than outright dishonesty. Here’s an analysis:
      a. The Nature of the Treaty
      • The treaty was a temporary truce that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) honored. The Quraysh violated it two years later by attacking a tribe allied with the Muslims, leading to the eventual conquest of Mecca.
      • The Muslims’ strategic approach during the treaty was about patience and long-term thinking, not deceit.
      b. Allegations of Deception
      • Critics claim the treaty teaches Muslims to use agreements as temporary measures until they gain the upper hand. This perspective stems from the eventual Muslim victory after the Quraysh violated the treaty.
      • However, Islamic teachings emphasize fulfilling treaties and agreements:
      • “Fulfill every covenant. Verily, you will be questioned about the covenants.” (Qur’an, 17:34)
      • Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) consistently upheld the treaty until the Quraysh broke it.
      c. Misinterpretation of Strategy as Deception
      • The treaty demonstrates pragmatism, not dishonesty. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) used the truce to strengthen the Muslim community through alliances, trade, and peaceful preaching, ultimately leading to the peaceful conquest of Mecca.
      3. Key Lessons from the Treaty
      Rather than teaching deception, the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah provides lessons in diplomacy and strategic patience:
      a. Diplomacy Over Conflict
      • The treaty prioritized peace over immediate confrontation, avoiding unnecessary bloodshed.
      • It reflects the Islamic principle of seeking reconciliation and peace where possible:
      • “And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah.” (Qur’an, 8:61)
      b. Patience and Trust in Long-Term Outcomes
      • Despite initial disappointment, the treaty allowed Islam to spread rapidly through non-violent means during the truce.
      • The lesson here is the value of patience and trusting that justice will prevail in the long run.
      c. Adherence to Agreements
      • The Muslims adhered to the terms of the treaty, even when it seemed unfavorable. This demonstrates the importance of fulfilling commitments in Islam.
      d. Strategic Thinking
      • The treaty highlights the importance of using wisdom and foresight in decision-making, showing that compromise can sometimes lead to greater victories.
      4. Modern Misuse of the Treaty’s Legacy
      • Misinterpretation:
      Some critics and fringe groups may misrepresent the treaty as a justification for deceit in agreements, but this goes against the broader Islamic teachings of honesty and integrity.
      • Extremist Distortions:
      Certain groups might manipulate the story to justify breaking treaties or agreements, but mainstream Islamic scholarship condemns such actions as un-Islamic.
      5. Conclusion
      The Treaty of Hudaybiyyah does not teach deception; rather, it showcases the Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) skillful diplomacy, patience, and commitment to peace. While the treaty was strategic, it was not dishonest. The Muslims honored their commitments until the Quraysh violated the terms, leading to the eventual peaceful conquest of Mecca.
      The treaty is a reminder of the importance of:
      • Seeking peaceful solutions over conflict.
      • Honoring agreements and covenants.
      • Employing wisdom and patience to achieve long-term goals.
      Claims that the treaty promotes deception often arise from misunderstandings or misinterpretations of its context and intent.