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He will be very happy to hear this! I’ll tell him to check comments! 🤩

Haha thank you! I don’t think the issue was with the mic - It was a cafe and it was quite loud, but if I do well enough on social media, happy to upgrade to a studio or otherwise 🤭 Anyway, the key to upgrading if you’re a serious viewer is your unconditional support, and I will expect that in the future! V.

Walaupun saya juga bukannya seseorang yang menyokong tindakan seseorang itu yang ingin membuatkan kritikan yang berdasarkan bukti yang tidak kukuh, saya rasa masalah KJ yang terutama adalah bahawa saudara Wan Fayhsal tidak diberi peluang untuk menegakkan dirinya di depan parlimen; itu adalah sebab terutama bahawa KJ telah mengemukakan hujahnya secara publik dan bukan sebaliknya bahawa dia itu mempercayai apa-apa yang ditulis dalam surat itu. Sekiranya anda boleh buktikan bahawa hal yang sebenar adalah sebaliknya, dipersilakan berikan hujahan anda.

It certainly appears that way. But to what extent is what you say about our government making the public sector exclusive to bumiputeras true? It’s definitely true that much of the public sector is made up of people of Malay or bumi descent. Is it because of discrimination though? I am not so sure - I think that that would be a very intuitive assessment to make, but I am not entirely convinced that it's correct. Maybe it's not entirely because there's a systematic bias. You see, the current head of research of Khazanah is Chinese, and I do know previous members of the board of directors who are non-Malay, for example, and it is a fact that these people do exist within the organization. The previous CEO of Petronas Digital, meanwhile, was Chinese as well. It's certainly true that we can't deny that a vast majority of the people who are participating in the various GLCs are indeed Malay. But that can be because people of other ethnicities simply make free choices to work elsewhere other than in the government sector. You can't really force people to enter into a particular job against their own will unless maybe they are scholars or otherwise, but in that case, then you'd be paying vast amounts of money in order to make sure that they can complete their education and that's what we would call quid pro quo or a fair exchange. Now I'm not categorically denying the possibility that there is indeed a racially motivated basis of discrimination against people who are of say Chinese or Indian descent on the part of the GLCs of Malaysia, but at the same time I would say that you would actually need more evidence in order to make that claim conclusively and you need to explain in consideration of the possibility that what apparently looks like discrimination is merely the result of free choices made by people and not because of systematic biases or malicious intent. It's true that the NEP was designed to eliminate identification of economic function with race and geographical location per the second prong, but while it’s true that governments can make laws and sometimes they can not be implemented ideally, it’s important to assign credit where it is due or at least not apportion blame too certainly when we may not know why certain things had come to pass. At the end of the day though, it isn't the laws that make things equal - rather, it is the people that make themselves equal through their free choices. If the right incentives do exist perhaps we can move towards an outcome that's more equitable or in line with the policy and that could very well happen, but the question of whether that objective can or should be achieved by fiat and also intervention on the part of the government though is a separate question - discrimination is yet another matter which has yet to be addressed or understood in the context of the public sector and perhaps can or should be investigated. Thank you for your comment and raising these thoughts, and I hope that you enjoyed this interview!

Consider the non-bumi PM discussion, or do non-bumis make the free choice to forego it? (Sorry if this sounds adversarial) My point is free choice is only a legitimate point when considered within social structures and constructs. Although I understand the scepticism ldue to lack of evidence, these outcomes don't occur in a vacuum.

Perkara 153 Perlembagaan menegaskan dengan jelas tanggungjawab Yang di-Pertuan Agong menerusi kerajaan untuk melindungi kedudukan istimewa Bumiputera khasnya orang Melayu dan anak negeri Sabah dan Sarawak serta melindungi kepentingan sah kaum lain. Antara perkara perlu ditunaikan adalah rizab bagi orang Melayu dan Bumiputera bagi jawatan dalam perkhidmatan awam dan biasiswa, dana siswa serta keistimewaan pendidikan atau latihan atau kemudahan khas lain. Tidak ada pihak boleh mempersoalkan kelebihan diperuntukkan dalam Perlembagaan ini kepada Melayu dan Bumiputera. Perkara ini telah dipersetujui leh semua kaum dalam kontrak sosial sebelum Tanah Melayu merdeka. Boleh rujuk Perlembagaan Malaysia mengenai definisi Tanah Melayu. Rakyat Malaysia perlu lebih cakna mengenai Perlembagaan negara ini. Perkara ini belum termasuk lagi dengan syarat khas di syaraikt-syarikat swasta bukan Bumiputera yang mahukan calon pekerja yang boleh berbahasa Mandarin, walapun syarikat ini tidak berurusan dengan dengan China. Selain itu terdapat juga isu berkaitan berbezaan skala gaji mengikut etnik dan bukan berdasarkan kekananan mahupun kebijaksanaan dalam bekerja. Justeru, Malaysia yang aman damai ini janganlah dihancurkan kesejahteraannya dengan tuduhan yang buta sejarah dan dangkal. Fikir-fikirkan.

@@bunga_raya96 Oh no, don't worry. I don't see questions as adversarial. In fact, there are hardly any questions that I would see as adversarial. I would say that in many cases, non-Malays do make the free choice to not choose to pursue the Prime Minister's position. Now, does every single non-Bumi make the choice to not pursue that position though? I'm sure that there are some people out there who choose to make the decision to pursue the PMship but then were blocked because of the very real barriers of which you are hinting, but it's unclear as to whether or not that is a constant, static, and ever-determined reality within the country. The nature of our political system is constantly changing although, of course, there are certain things that remain at hand as something stable. Anybody who seeks to become the Prime Minister of any country needs to receive broad support from a large proportion of the population. In Malaysia, the statistical truth is that 70% of the population is Bumi, and we are dominated by racialist politics in many different ways. If you were to somehow go about the process of becoming or asserting yourself as the PM of that country, then somehow you would either need to be accepted by that group, or you would need to facilitate a transformational change within the society such that you, even in your status as a non-Bumi, would assert the possibility of achieving the goal of receiving that sort of support. If you are living in a world where every single other member of your community has only focused on just purely making money, you're not likely to seek out leadership of the country because leadership, frankly, is an arduous business. It is possible even if it is not likely - the far simpler task would simply be to achieve some other sort of goal of the range of possible goals in this world. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, we could say that in fact the idea of wanting to lead a country in itself is a delusional thing, and that people who seek after it are a little soft in the head in some ways, haha. With that in mind, I therefore think that there's no clear evidence of a systematic discrimination in such a way that would eternally preclude a non-Bumi from becoming the Prime Minister of this country, even if I don’t personally think it is likely to come to pass in my lifetime.

Thank you bro! 🙏 Look forward to future ones ahead!

Oh thank you for the support! I would love to interview Tun M, though I think he’s recovering in the hospital at the moment. Let’s see if he can make it! It’s mostly a personal reason though (which you might see in the interview) - Thank you for watching! ✨

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He’s super smart! It was a real privilege to have this conversation with him - It doesn’t mean you should accept everything he says without questioning it though!

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@@VictorTan agree but malaysia is living in backwards smart people we don need him to lead LOL !

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Well, I don't know if there was nepotism necessarily. I think the standard reputation is that there was. I don't know to what extent that was true though, so I would rather make comments on things that I do not necessarily know, at least with respect to the KJ case. Although, there may be stronger claims to be made for other individuals. In any case, this interview isn't about any of that. It's more about education, which is not something that you can really gain as easily. I'm sure that there is some out there through the legacy system, but generally, Oxford has enough rich and extremely smart people to make it so that they won't need to admit somebody who is disastrously stupid but also stupidly rich.

Haha thank you! Yes - we had done this in a cafe, and it was KJ’s first time doing that in a cafe; initially he wanted to have me driven off to the office so we could do the interview there, but then there was a bit of a surprise so we didn’t do that 🤭 I’ve added subtitles though! It should be easy to look through what we were discussing - Thanks for watching! 🤩

Hey yeah sure; if you're looking for more control over your chair, then maybe the S could fit you well. It most likely is going to suit your height, but with a somewhat closer fit compared to the R. Not everyone is universally the same, and sometimes people can just fall in love with the thing that they try first. So in most cases, I recommend that you just go with one, and then pick that, and then be happy in the thereafter. R is nice if you like kind of draping yourself over and then folding into the chair, I think. Enjoy your chair!

@@VictorTan Thanks for the reply. I wish I could just go with one and deal with it. But I have my OCD kicking in when it comes to choosing something. I just need to find the perfect one, otherwise It will always bother me. I certain S will fit me well, but what if R will also be good. More space always better, but my biggest concern in seat depth

Thank you for the support, Joost! I hope you’ll enjoy the table! 👌

It’s a pleasure! So glad you enjoyed this! 🚀

Why, thank you for watching! I'm so glad that you enjoyed the conversation. Thank you for dropping in, and please look forward to more content in the days ahead! 🤩🤩

If I couldn’t I would be very worried about humanity 😭😭😭🍓🍓🍓

You’re entitled to your opinion!

I am about your height. You can get the S-size chair or M-size chair, no problem. I recommend getting the M if you like a little more legroom. Do consider using the link in the description if you'd like to support my work! Thank you in advance and enjoy your chair!

By randomly quoting names and providing no context, you are not adding value to the conversation and you simply look pretentious. If you actually want to have a discussion instead of pretending that you are smart, then provide specific references and justify the specific point that you are making. Otherwise, don't waste your time commenting.

Ah yes. John Mearsheimer’s name is Mearsheimer and not “Mershiermer”, he is a professor at my university, realism applies primarily to international relations and there is no natural connection apart from the stretch you made that even ChatGPT said was a weird take that didn’t make sense. Also, you misunderstood the entire conversation chose to listen to what you wanted to listen to, and either missed the part where Hwok Aun said that we should do *more*, or chose not to listen to it lmao. In other words, you have completely missed the point, you dunce.

It was a wonderful conversation! Thank you for dropping by as always J - always great to see you! The next thing we know, you're going to take up a PhD in the US, just like Dr. Ong except this time it’ll be #2! 🤩

Haha, thank you for the kind words. Yes, my mom is a extra special expert chair tester and she is wonderful. Thank you for the lovely comment and I hope that you’ll enjoy your chair!

It's not possible to NEP your way into Harvard. Wan Nadiah is an exceptional academic on her own, and she has achieved everything that she has had partly yes, because of being a part of UITM, but what we all know is that even if there is that basic educational assistance, that is just the bare minimum in many different ways and it doesn’t mean you can get into Harvard - there are many Malay students at KYUEM KTJ KYS and the nation’s best schools and they didn’t get in, thereby burying the point you were trying to make. If you had actually watched the interview, you would see that even as a Bumiputra, she had been rejected from matriculation, which disconfirms the narrative that every single person of Malay descent will receive matriculation offers. It’s true that asasi is reserved for Malays by the way so credit to your point there, but if there was a reductionist picture that you wanted to paint of Malay educational outcomes, sorry to say that, that didn’t work as none of those things have any relation to her getting into Harvard. Do yourself a favour, by the way, if you're somebody who is complaining about not getting a scholarship, know that you're speaking to a Chinese person who received a full tuition ride scholarship from the government of your country, so do forgive me if I don't particularly sympathise with your victim playing even as you voice out your insecurities on the internet. You will do infinitely better to study harder instead of complaining about something that you personally didn't get and even if you don't get a scholarship necessarily, there are many ways in which you can excel that don't have anything to do with a particular system in which you feel that you are disadvantaged.

Hey Jarrod, wow! Didn't know that you were in touch with MACEE as well! I will definitely say hello when I chat with Curtis a little later on. It is great to see that you and Dr Ong have similar educational journeys! I don’t know which college he finished at though, but there’s another very accomplished individual to look to!

Thank you for the kind words! 👌✨

Thank you for the comment, Harmit! It's absolutely vital that most people move beyond superficial biases. In the age of conversation on social media though, people tend to move towards the lowest common denominator. By what our friend Nathaniel might describe as gravity, the loudest voices often win in the face of moderate silence - A crucial reason as to why it is that we should continue to speak up in many ways, assisted by the numerous interesting archetypes that we have encountered in recent days. On a separate point though, I don't know if the authors have necessarily been quote-unquote prevented from engaging the core of the issue. particularly since speculation remains a possibility that HA did not deny entirely. It is entirely possible to come up with narratives about revenge or otherwise with varying degrees of support, but it would not behoove a researcher to go straight in and make an assertion that they cannot prove while standing behind those claims without the evidence that had allowed them to distinguish themselves as researchers in the very first place. It would be cool to think about discrimination in public employment though, I agree, though the immediate question I would have is whether that sort of data is possible and so ahead of even asking the ISEAS to conduct research that is of this nature, it may be more pressing if this is the kind of knowledge that you wish to obtain to permit the creation of a data set that would allow the government to showcase extent of discrimination through applications for public service, and it is unclear that the best way is through callback rates. Moreover, even supposing you managed to establish in a convincing way that there was a statistically significant difference in terms of callbacks or job acceptance, you would still need to be able to interpret the results in a more convincing way, which requires more monitoring on a continual basis, and the question would then naturally arise as to whether resources should be dedicated towards that when fundamentally certain forms of political will, if implemented on the part of the government, would achieve the desired result of achieving material change to eliminate discrimination much more cheaply relative to monitoring in the event that discrimination were present, and indeed the government would be constrained in its sphere of power to change certain proportions of employees by race, if rather than a consequence, the observed phenomenon of a heavy skew towards one particular race in the civil service reflects not a choice of administration, but rather the result of the free exercise of choices on the part of Malaysian people at large. I would accordingly note that what HA pointed out during this conversation, which is that cooler light needs to be shed on this topic, remains relevant. Because making a clear statement about what is and what is not need not always reflect bravery and a wish to assert one's own need not always reflect bravery. It can reflect temerity and a wish to assert one's own perspectives without regard for the material truth - Something that I am continually conscious of.

Hahaha well thank you for promoting it through this comment! Redundant vocab though? :O

The usual cibai, kepala bapak kau, makau hijau, kanina be, puki mak, lansi, sibeh siao eh. My bad these vocab aren't redundant 😭

Wow, you trained to be a teacher at my high school. That is incredible. I hope that the kids weren't too harsh at that time, although if they were, it seems to have been for the better in some way, shape, or form. Thank you for impacting the lives of our juniors!

You're most welcome! It's my honour to have delivered this message and to convey the words of Professor Jomo, who is the true source of enlightenment here. Thank you for watching, consider subscribing to support my work if you enjoyed this, and do share with your friends and associates as we build a greater sense of history within Malaysia in the days ahead!

Hey I’m glad you enjoy Malaysian films dude! Thanks for learning about our culture! Kuman is great - you may also enjoy Abang Adik as well; that one is a masterpiece too!

All the better to deliver you salvation, my child 😇 (Jk)

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Haha I appreciate your comment! University policies were clear from the outset that disruption is not welcome and also made clear what action would be taken though. It’s not like this was something arbitrary or something that our friends didn’t already know. It was very, very clear then and it remains very, very clear now. I appreciate that you care deeply about this issue and note that your care is shared by millions around the world, but let’s take a step back to bear in mind that not everyone in a position of privilege to say that they must drop their hats - they may have families to feed, debts to pay, and other things along the way. Unless you can clearly justify why it is that these people’s lives are not meaningful or their journeys are not meaningful either, I’m not sure that you have too strong an argument for disrupting a private university that, in its private nature, has every right to choose not to enroll and to terminate the visas of those who choose not to respect the rights of other people out there to pursue their education and learning simply because of your personal leanings. If you genuinely have empathy for people, do yourself a favor and have empathy for students beyond woke ideas, and if you truly have received education, appreciate that you can accept multiple perspectives and not all are at war with one another and, once again, though you have the right to speak (as Christopher demonstrated beautifully, and as we agree), free speech is not a license to compel or force. If you think it is, you are no better than the entities that you criticize.

@@VictorTan you literally missed my very literal meaning, Dear 💜✌ I do understand the opposing views held by many; comprehension without condemnation. I just don't happen to share them.

@@GrannyRalls Let’s not be condescending as I didn't miss your meaning, ‘dear’. You said that the purpose of a protest is to disrupt. I merely emphasised, and the university has made abundantly clear, that any attempt at disruption will be swiftly moved upon and thoroughly and efficiently removed. And any continuation of protests will only be to the extent that it is allowed as a means of seeking truth and as an educational opportunity, not because the nonsense of people who do not understand or do not care about rules should be tolerated. Expect me to act far more swiftly and more intensely when I do come into power and do not expect sympathy from me and also to encourage people to do the exact same thing in the future ya.

@@VictorTan as far as condescension is concerned, again, you missed my meaning, Dear 💜☮, all that can be said is: 1st hen cackled yet, didn't warrant response on my part.

@@GrannyRalls Well, how about this? I will just make your comment invisible and you can do nothing about it and anything you could possibly say will just become invisible to the world. You can write as many comments as you want thinking that they will be seen but all of them will be invisible and irrelevant. Expect that treatment in the future from many more people if you keep commenting the way that you do :)