The Master System port really shows off how good the system could look, when Sega's art team wasn't filling up every square inch of the limited background tiles with "realistic" detail.
yes I played that game on the master system back in the day and it was one of my favorites :-) , played the genesis versions some years ago for comparison and I still think that the master system version was very good.
I always thought the master games looked good. Good colour palette on the machine the issue is it just can't put enough sprites on screen. Doesn't affect this game though
@@ostiariusalpha Double Dragon is my favorite example. Compare it to the NES games for a case of less is more. Altered Beast and Golden Axe aren't doing the system any favors, either. Especially since the folks doing all this are apparently color blind, as well. Check out the recent Tyrus Flare hack for SMS Golden Axe; it's a much less painful experience.
PC Engine port looks darker and grittier compared to MD original: judging by this comparison, I prefer the MD rendition. Stylistically too, it has a better aspect for me.
As a brazilian I'm obligated by law to make a comment about a reskin of SMS port, called Monica no Castelo do Dragão. Thanks for the video, keep the good work!!!
The Megadrive version is one of my most favorite games ever! I rented it for a weekend and fell in love with it. I wanted to buy the game, but it was one of the most expensive Megadrive games so i wasn't able to. Luckily i won a contest on television (a Dutch program called 'Power Play') and the price was a videogame of your own choosing. So of course this became Wonderboy. I still play this game every now and then :D
I'd agree. I think the only reason this got a Master System port was because it really was the home of Wonderboy games. 4 games in total are on the Master System. Either they were ported to the Master System first or started life as an exclusive for the system before being ported to the PC Engine in Wonderboy III's case.
I have a soft spot for those early 90s Japanese games. They feel like home, somehow. ^-^ And damn, that PC Engine intro looks amazingly clean for such an old game.
I believe someone made an ROM mod for the SMS version that supports SRAM instead. Would be cool if such mod also added support to FM Sound Unit as well.
@@RetroCore No, those are the first Monster World game and Monster World II. The latter needs to be set to the Japanese region title Monster World II (instead of the oddly named Wonder Boy III) in order to be enabled for the console to use though. Considering the Master System version of Monster World III is a 1993 game, it would have been quite unusual to have FM music supported or even programmed into it (last Master System games that had FM music programmed in were some 1990 titles like Ultima VI).
The main character change for the PCEngine one somehow looks like Saint Seyia if it was designed by Tatsunko in the early 80's. Looks like the dude's wearing the time machine from the original Time Bokan as armor.
@@RetroCore I like it on a purely aesthetic level, as I really have a soft spot for that 1980's anime look, but I agree. They're trying too hard to differentiate the character from the Sega versions of the game to make it their own thing, while at the same time borrowing from other sources, even if unintentionally. I do prefer Sega's version's more squashed down look with more simple armor. The Hudson one looks like I'm supposed to collect all of his tie in trading cards and Gatcha figures or something.
That Master System port totally holds its own in the visual department, it really makes you wonder what could have been with that console. I know it appeared late in even its European lifespan, but I'm still a bit surprised at how unknown that port appears to be.
One of my most beloved games and a masterpiece for Megadrive, in my opinion. Master System have a very good port, the graphics are amazing for the system. PC Engine looks different... I preffer the original. Good BotP!
As a curiosity.. here in Brazil some of the Wonderboy games were localized with "Turma da Mônica" characters (Monica's Gang in USA as I hear), which is the most popular and famous comic books created here. The Mega-Drive version of this is one of the 3 Wonderboy games that became Turma da Mônica games. While the first game to get the Turma da Mônica treatment had just basically a sprite swap (SMS verrsion of Wonderboy in Monsterland) , the other games actually had more characters from Turma da Mônica being playabl.e
It's better to follow the Japanese naming convention of the series since it's the western one that makes all the confusion. Western Monster Land is Japanese Monster World 1, and Western Monster World is Japanese Monster World III. Between the two lies the Japnaese Monster World II which is The Dragon's Trap (let's not talk about the very oddly considered Western Wonder Boy III for that one, they even realized of their mistake when they dropped the numeral in the European Game Gear release).
@@RetroCore - I like Dragon's Trap's remake & art-style, especially b/c you could switch back to the original graphics at any time. Whar if they could di that again w/a Monster World remake? I'd be all for it.
I had another go of this game on the Mega Drive mini. I still think Wonder Boy in Monster World is the most colorful game on the console. The title screen should of been the box-art, probably would of sold more if used instead what was used for the Genesis lol
I avoided playing this on the Genesis Mini for a while because I thought this was just an upgraded version of Wonder Boy in Monster Land, which I have played on the Sega Master System. I think it's because we also had Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap, which was the sequel to Monster Land, and I thought the next game was Monster World IV, also on the Genesis Mini. I didn't realize that Wonder Boy in Monster World was the game in-between III and IV due to the confusing titling.
I have the Genesis version, it's fun game. I actually played the sequel first, which remains my favorite in the series, it made me want to try this one. Would love to try the PCE CD version.
I had played the Japanese Mega Drive version first too but was very surprised by the changes made to the western version. This was the first time I'd ever played the western Mega Drive release.
@@RetroCore 11 year old me was not happy 😂 but after seeing the video, I'll have to hunt down the MD version cause that looked really good (except the dying part!!)
Hopefully a remake of this game will come, like the other Monster World games. Shoot, a Monster Lair remake would be awesome too only if the music is greater than the PC Engine version......which will be a very hard thing to do.
I didn't enjoy the Megadrive version for the same reason. Starting over was such a pain. These videos are great, really enjoy this series. Thanks for all the hard work, it's appreciated.
I'd never played the western Mega Drive version until this video. At first I thought the game had crashed or had a bug when I saw the game over screen. It's a horrible system. The Japanese version is not like that at all.
Westone: is the second part said as "one" (like the number one) or as "tone" (like sound)? Mark, I noticed you used both in your video. I hope this isn't another Galaga / Gal-ah-ga debate!
Used to absolutely adore the Wonderboy games back in the day, but something has drastically changed in the years since. Picked up Sega Vintage Collection Monster World on Xbox 360 at the time and more recently Dragon's Trap remake on PS4, just can't play any of them for long periods 😭
That portrait of Shion at the start of the video is adorable. Where'd you find that? I gotta be honest with you, I'm sure Dynastic Hero has a lot of advantages over the other versions, but I'm not down with the Big Bad Beetleborgs makeover the game got.
One of the few Genesis games that DID NOT sound or look like anything the Genesis could produce! This is what happens when very talented and creative developers really knew how to develop for a platform in the 90s! Ive always loved this game as it EASILY compared to anything the SNES could do.
I think you should be saying a game that wasn't developed outside of Japan 😉. To me, someone who played almost exclusively Japanese games on the Mega Drive, this doesn't look or sound that special. Compared to the crap coming out of the US and some Euro games though, yeah, this does impress. I suggest checking out Chiki Chiki Boys. That's so a very bright looking cute game. Or maybe something like Pulseman.
@@RetroCore heh i rented Chiki Chiki Boys a few times when i was young. i think Wonderboy stuck with me as I just really liked everything about it, plus it was an early "Metroidvania" style game almost (and that has become my favorite genre of game as Ive started pushing 40 lol). May be due to nostalgia as well. Honestly havent played Wonderboy in quite a while (i know its been at least 7-10 years since i last booted it up on my PC).
@@RetroCore btw, while im thinking of it... not sure if youre a Moral Kombat 1 fan or not... but there is a fellow on TH-cam who is rebuilding the Genesis game to much much MUCH more accurately match the original arcade game. Going back to my initial comment, its a perfect example of what happens when a talented developer works with a certain platform. Hes taken the Genesis original and put Probe Software to shame! Basically hes producing the game that SHOULD have been released. Game proves the Genesis version couldve easily whipped the SNES games butt ;) th-cam.com/video/d3W3BJzR1Ng/w-d-xo.html
Never played this one. I think I made the mistake to think it was just monsterland conversions on Megadrive/SMS and PCE, showing the first screens of the game. It's fun to see how Megadrive can sounds like an Adlib PC soundcard sometimes. And this Game Over screen, a good trick to play the best version if I want to discover this game with my Everdrive. Many thanks 😁 I'm always impressed by the power of this console for a 8 bits system. Those colors and sounds, the smooth animation 😱. Sadly, lack of space on cartridge and memory usually needed cuts like this in 16 bits conversions. But I think SMS players have very good time on this one. The PCE is very funny. A perfect example of how all the univers of a game could be switched to another just for commercial purpose. And to be honest, I don't really like the changes, so much "oriental". This main character with his scarab armour is just laughable and lost all his charism 😂😂😂 And this little girl/princess/feary/elf (just put here the word you prefer), OMG, I need sunglasses to look at her with her green hairs and pink dress 😆. Clearly, even with the better graphics and the red book music, I'm not sure I would be able to play this version to the end controlling this ridiculous little "scarab-knight" 😂 But many thanks, you corrected my false vision of this game and I will give it a try on my Megadrive with the japanese ROM 👍😇.
@Benjamin Owuye Jagun Sounds like this would be a great candidate for a MD+ hack. Redbook audio of the PC Engine version, but with the original Mega Drive version.
I play this on my Wonder Boy Sega Ages collection on the PlayStation 2, you can choose any Sega version on the fly and I like using the option for 240p on my CRT via RGB, looks so good. I do like them Sega Ages collection's I have all of them on a hard drive.
@Diskun I might be wrong, but Gradius 3 has less ports than 2. I believe 3 was only ported to the SNES while the arcade rom is emulated in the PS2 compilation (don't quote me on that, I didn't do a proper research). Meanwhile, Gradius 2 was ported to the NES, PCengine and X86000. My comment was just because in an older video where he asked for suggestions I suggested Gradius 2 and he mentioned it would have only three ports. I was just trying to tease him to make a Gradius 2 video since now he doesn't have the "oh, it is just three ports" excuse 😅 but it is all in the name of good fun (and possibly a Gradius 2 video 😎)
@Diskun It's probably because your brain knew something was wrong with my text and it filled the blank. Did you notice that I spelled the first word wrong? I meant THREE and I spelled THERE. See, that's the 3 of your Gradius.😜
@@BigBillKelly-x2z Pull your glass out of your ass haha. Darker? How about more colors and a softer look. The MD port is over contrasted. The parallax is minimal in this game. Crappy sprite redesigns? It's literally the just player sprite. Or do you mean like a character in one of the shops has a different hair colors because it's not limited to the same color restrictions as the MD port? Lmao downgraded music. The only thing downgraded here is your ability to look past your own bias.
Such a shame that the Master System version was cut down, probably in an effort to use a smaller cart. God I hate when Sega did that, trying to save money. Could have been such an amazing SMS port had they not done that.
I have always been very surprised about the fact that Sega didn't give the Master System version of Monster World III also a counterpart Game Gear version to be released in Japan and maybe North America, even though North America never got the Game Gear version of Monster World II and did a quite odd renaming to the Game Gear version of the first Wonder Boy. Maybe this had some relation to limit this in the minds of the Sega higher ups. But then again, it should have been done, in order to give the Japanese market a release of this "8 bit demake". Same as it was done with the Japanese Game Gear release of Monster World II, actually.
Yeah, it is very strange. I wonder if they thought the Game Gear just didn't have enough life in it? The Master System was still selling in parts of Europe and South America at that point.
@@RetroCore I don't think so. This was 1993 and at that point Sega was still pushing the Game Gear because it had some decent North American sales and the Japanese sales weren't too bad for their expectations. I believe it was in Europe, funnily enough, were the system was faring worse (the same exact situation was happening then with the Mega CD). It was on the contrary, Sega was starting to fade out the Master System and while in 1993 there was still a lot of joint Master System and Game Gear releases, in 1994 you could see a trend starting of games being released on the Game Gear but not on the Master System, the most prominent situation in that regard was probably Sonic the Hedgehog Triple Trouble (which was intended for the Master System at first, but then was cancelled), and then TecToy had to call the shots with Sega from 1995 onwards to get all those Game Gear titles converted and released on the Master System themselves. So something very strange had to happen with this opposite situation, a game like this being released for the Master System which limited your markets to essentially Europe, Australia and Brazil, and strangely not releasing it also on the Game Gear which allowed for Japan and North America releases as well. Probably Sega thought that the Wonder Boy fandom was much more present on the Master System because of sales of games like Monster World II (The Dragon's Trap), even that would involve limiting regions, and not so much on the Game Gear despite the fact that they would skip Japan which got the previous two Wonder Boy titles on the Game Gear (same as Europe, but unlike North America which skipped The Dragon's Trap and renamed the first Wonder Boy to something like "Revenge of Drancon"). I can't get other type of reasoning behind this. The game can still be played on the Game Gear obviously, but the Master System resolution squashes the game and hinders aspects like especially reading texts. A proper Game Gear conversion like the one Monster World II got would have been ideal.
How are items and magic handled in the PC Engine version? The Genesis version uses the A button and a direction for that, while using the B and C buttons for attacking and jumping, but the PC Engine controller only has two action buttons. Do you have to hold Select and use a directional arrow?
The PCE has a three button pad - FYI. You select which of the third button is mapped to.. select or run. I play all my PCE games with this 3 button Ave pad. There's even turbo for extra button or "hold" mode as well. Honestly, I can't imagine owning PCE games and not owning this official 3 button pad hahah.
Nice comparison, I personally prefer the original (lots of nostalgia for it). I made a 100% long play a while back in case you're interested: th-cam.com/video/1vRSwykqMIQ/w-d-xo.html
Yeah PC Engine main character design is really laughable even for 90s standard it's bad, it's like they try copy Saint Seiya but failed hard, but i still have soft spot for full armor character than Heroic character like Master System and Genesis one it's probably coz I start sick with Dragon Quest default hero design, it's not bad but leave so many desire for hero who must defeat evil wear normal clothes not full armor it's kinda lame to me.
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The Master System port really shows off how good the system could look, when Sega's art team wasn't filling up every square inch of the limited background tiles with "realistic" detail.
yes I played that game on the master system back in the day and it was one of my favorites :-) , played the genesis versions some years ago for comparison and I still think that the master system version was very good.
I'm kind of curious now, which Master System games do you feel have overdone tile art?
I always thought the master games looked good. Good colour palette on the machine the issue is it just can't put enough sprites on screen. Doesn't affect this game though
@@ostiariusalpha Space Harrier is one
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Double Dragon is my favorite example. Compare it to the NES games for a case of less is more.
Altered Beast and Golden Axe aren't doing the system any favors, either.
Especially since the folks doing all this are apparently color blind, as well. Check out the recent Tyrus Flare hack for SMS Golden Axe; it's a much less painful experience.
PC Engine port looks darker and grittier compared to MD original: judging by this comparison, I prefer the MD rendition. Stylistically too, it has a better aspect for me.
Talking about sprite hacks, it would be cool to have the PCE CD version re-franchised with the original graphics for the main character.
I'd like that very much.
Very doable! None of the graphics are compress in the PCE CD data tracks.
Classic: the parallax for the MD, the colours for the PCE. 1-1
As a brazilian I'm obligated by law to make a comment about a reskin of SMS port, called Monica no Castelo do Dragão. Thanks for the video, keep the good work!!!
I do mention that on the opening to the video 😁
The Megadrive version is one of my most favorite games ever!
I rented it for a weekend and fell in love with it. I wanted to buy the game, but it was one of the most expensive Megadrive games so i wasn't able to.
Luckily i won a contest on television (a Dutch program called 'Power Play') and the price was a videogame of your own choosing.
So of course this became Wonderboy. I still play this game every now and then :D
The Master System version is a very remarkable port.
I'd agree. I think the only reason this got a Master System port was because it really was the home of Wonderboy games. 4 games in total are on the Master System. Either they were ported to the Master System first or started life as an exclusive for the system before being ported to the PC Engine in Wonderboy III's case.
I didn't even know this game HAD ports. Interesting video to see too, particularly the Master System version.
The world of Wonderboy is a very confusing one for sure.
I love this series! Dropped everything and clicked on it as soon as I saw it. What a treat. Thanks Mark!
Always nice to read comments like that.
@@RetroCore I meant the Wonder Boy series, but I like BotP too. =D
I have a soft spot for those early 90s Japanese games. They feel like home, somehow. ^-^ And damn, that PC Engine intro looks amazingly clean for such an old game.
The intro on the PC English isn't using video, it's actual PC Engine graphics. This is why it looks very clean.
@@RetroCore Damn, I'm impressed. It looks great for such an old system.
I believe someone made an ROM mod for the SMS version that supports SRAM instead. Would be cool if such mod also added support to FM Sound Unit as well.
I think this game does have FM support out of the box. I didn't think of trying it though for this video.
@@RetroCore No, those are the first Monster World game and Monster World II. The latter needs to be set to the Japanese region title Monster World II (instead of the oddly named Wonder Boy III) in order to be enabled for the console to use though. Considering the Master System version of Monster World III is a 1993 game, it would have been quite unusual to have FM music supported or even programmed into it (last Master System games that had FM music programmed in were some 1990 titles like Ultima VI).
The main character change for the PCEngine one somehow looks like Saint Seyia if it was designed by Tatsunko in the early 80's. Looks like the dude's wearing the time machine from the original Time Bokan as armor.
I agree. I don't like it at all. It reminds my of anime aimed at elementary school boys.
@@RetroCore I like it on a purely aesthetic level, as I really have a soft spot for that 1980's anime look, but I agree. They're trying too hard to differentiate the character from the Sega versions of the game to make it their own thing, while at the same time borrowing from other sources, even if unintentionally. I do prefer Sega's version's more squashed down look with more simple armor. The Hudson one looks like I'm supposed to collect all of his tie in trading cards and Gatcha figures or something.
That Master System port totally holds its own in the visual department, it really makes you wonder what could have been with that console. I know it appeared late in even its European lifespan, but I'm still a bit surprised at how unknown that port appears to be.
If the Master System used mapper chips like the Famicom /NES did, it would have blown away the NES.
MS version is really impressive
It sure was. This was a late release for the system too.
The PC Engine version looks wicked!
One of my most beloved games and a masterpiece for Megadrive, in my opinion. Master System have a very good port, the graphics are amazing for the system. PC Engine looks different... I preffer the original.
Good BotP!
nice bass guitar into music and very nice side by side music! 🎶❤️🎶
Thanks. Those tracks are taken from the PC Engine version of the game.
Yet another great PC Engine port. Yet another reason why I am eagerly awaiting the Analogue Duo!
Awesome video as always
Thanks.
I have the MD version and its 1 of my favorite games, i love the art style
As a curiosity.. here in Brazil some of the Wonderboy games were localized with "Turma da Mônica" characters (Monica's Gang in USA as I hear), which is the most popular and famous comic books created here. The Mega-Drive version of this is one of the 3 Wonderboy games that became Turma da Mônica games.
While the first game to get the Turma da Mônica treatment had just basically a sprite swap (SMS verrsion of Wonderboy in Monsterland) , the other games actually had more characters from Turma da Mônica being playabl.e
0:19 ;-)
@@vasopel Oh. I missed that. Duh :)
I've never really gotten into this series, but the music for the PC Engine CD version sounds really really good!!
My first game i've ever "played", when i was very young, like 2 or 3 years old.
Cool video, keep up the good work!
I never knew this game existed! I always thought monster land and monster world were the same game haha
Lol, I can see why you'd think that. The game series is very confusing.
It's better to follow the Japanese naming convention of the series since it's the western one that makes all the confusion. Western Monster Land is Japanese Monster World 1, and Western Monster World is Japanese Monster World III. Between the two lies the Japnaese Monster World II which is The Dragon's Trap (let's not talk about the very oddly considered Western Wonder Boy III for that one, they even realized of their mistake when they dropped the numeral in the European Game Gear release).
I remember importing this when it came out and got through most of it on the MD despite the Japanese text. Epic game!
that pc engine one makes me wish that cd rom games came sooner in the west
Would love to see Wonder Boy in Monster World get a remaster a'la some of the other Wonder Boy games have.
Only if they keep away from the style they used for the last remakes. That did nothing for me.
@@RetroCore - I like Dragon's Trap's remake & art-style, especially b/c you could switch back to the original graphics at any time. Whar if they could di that again w/a Monster World remake? I'd be all for it.
The only game in the series I played for any length of time was the Master System one where you turn into different animals.
Ah, wonder Boy 3. That was a great one but I think the remake is horrible in looks and sound.
I had another go of this game on the Mega Drive mini. I still think Wonder Boy in Monster World is the most colorful game on the console. The title screen should of been the box-art, probably would of sold more if used instead what was used for the Genesis lol
Lol, the western Cover are is bad. Anything airbrushed looks crap in my opinion when it comes to game covers.
Another great BOTP.
Thanks!
I avoided playing this on the Genesis Mini for a while because I thought this was just an upgraded version of Wonder Boy in Monster Land, which I have played on the Sega Master System. I think it's because we also had Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap, which was the sequel to Monster Land, and I thought the next game was Monster World IV, also on the Genesis Mini. I didn't realize that Wonder Boy in Monster World was the game in-between III and IV due to the confusing titling.
Tell me about it. A few years ago I thought the same thing.
I have the Genesis version, it's fun game. I actually played the sequel first, which remains my favorite in the series, it made me want to try this one. Would love to try the PCE CD version.
I had played the Japanese Mega Drive version first too but was very surprised by the changes made to the western version. This was the first time I'd ever played the western Mega Drive release.
I remember owning and loving the Master System version, and I remember really sucking at it 😂 another great BotP Mark!
😅I'm not surprised with the short reach on the weapons. That really makes the game tough.
@@RetroCore 11 year old me was not happy 😂 but after seeing the video, I'll have to hunt down the MD version cause that looked really good (except the dying part!!)
The Japanese MD version is much better but then there is the problem of the language barrier. No idea why they changed the English version 😢
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"We have to defeat the rental market."
Joke's on them. The games that played fair were more likely to be bought anyways.
Hopefully a remake of this game will come, like the other Monster World games. Shoot, a Monster Lair remake would be awesome too only if the music is greater than the PC Engine version......which will be a very hard thing to do.
If they do remake it I hope they don't do it in the same fashion as the last one. That really didn't appeal to me.
Genesis is a very clever way to play. Master System is a decent challenge. Turbo CD is amazing.
I didn't enjoy the Megadrive version for the same reason. Starting over was such a pain. These videos are great, really enjoy this series. Thanks for all the hard work, it's appreciated.
I'd never played the western Mega Drive version until this video. At first I thought the game had crashed or had a bug when I saw the game over screen. It's a horrible system. The Japanese version is not like that at all.
Westone: is the second part said as "one" (like the number one) or as "tone" (like sound)? Mark, I noticed you used both in your video. I hope this isn't another Galaga / Gal-ah-ga debate!
According to the founders, it's west plus stone. So it rhymes with stone.
Ah, I just did that to please both camps but it really should be pronounced Wes Tone. Thats how it is written in Japanese.
Used to absolutely adore the Wonderboy games back in the day, but something has drastically changed in the years since.
Picked up Sega Vintage Collection Monster World on Xbox 360 at the time and more recently Dragon's Trap remake on PS4, just can't play any of them for long periods 😭
The remake didn't appeal to me at all. The art and audio just seem so wrong.
That portrait of Shion at the start of the video is adorable. Where'd you find that?
I gotta be honest with you, I'm sure Dynastic Hero has a lot of advantages over the other versions, but I'm not down with the Big Bad Beetleborgs makeover the game got.
That art came form a flyer for the Japanese Mega Drive release.
I k ow what toy mean about the whole beetle thing. It looks stupid.
Dude your music intro are always cool, can you precise the titles in the credits ? Thanks
It's just music taken from a version the game featured in the video. In this videos case, the music is from the PC Engine version.
Hmm there must be a Megadrive JPN English translation patch right??
I don't know but there should be because the changes made to the official English version ruin the game.
theres an official hack from tec toy called Mônica na Terra dos Monstros, launched only in brazil for the md
Yes, this is mentioned at the begining of the video.
That UI is wayyyy too big lol. What the hell?!
One of the few Genesis games that DID NOT sound or look like anything the Genesis could produce! This is what happens when very talented and creative developers really knew how to develop for a platform in the 90s! Ive always loved this game as it EASILY compared to anything the SNES could do.
I think you should be saying a game that wasn't developed outside of Japan 😉. To me, someone who played almost exclusively Japanese games on the Mega Drive, this doesn't look or sound that special. Compared to the crap coming out of the US and some Euro games though, yeah, this does impress.
I suggest checking out Chiki Chiki Boys. That's so a very bright looking cute game. Or maybe something like Pulseman.
@@RetroCore heh i rented Chiki Chiki Boys a few times when i was young. i think Wonderboy stuck with me as I just really liked everything about it, plus it was an early "Metroidvania" style game almost (and that has become my favorite genre of game as Ive started pushing 40 lol). May be due to nostalgia as well. Honestly havent played Wonderboy in quite a while (i know its been at least 7-10 years since i last booted it up on my PC).
@@RetroCore btw, while im thinking of it... not sure if youre a Moral Kombat 1 fan or not... but there is a fellow on TH-cam who is rebuilding the Genesis game to much much MUCH more accurately match the original arcade game. Going back to my initial comment, its a perfect example of what happens when a talented developer works with a certain platform. Hes taken the Genesis original and put Probe Software to shame! Basically hes producing the game that SHOULD have been released. Game proves the Genesis version couldve easily whipped the SNES games butt ;)
th-cam.com/video/d3W3BJzR1Ng/w-d-xo.html
I'm afraid I can't stand Mortal Kombat but I'm all for these remakes that improve the game. I'll check it out.
Never played this one. I think I made the mistake to think it was just monsterland conversions on Megadrive/SMS and PCE, showing the first screens of the game. It's fun to see how Megadrive can sounds like an Adlib PC soundcard sometimes. And this Game Over screen, a good trick to play the best version if I want to discover this game with my Everdrive. Many thanks 😁 I'm always impressed by the power of this console for a 8 bits system. Those colors and sounds, the smooth animation 😱. Sadly, lack of space on cartridge and memory usually needed cuts like this in 16 bits conversions. But I think SMS players have very good time on this one. The PCE is very funny. A perfect example of how all the univers of a game could be switched to another just for commercial purpose. And to be honest, I don't really like the changes, so much "oriental". This main character with his scarab armour is just laughable and lost all his charism 😂😂😂 And this little girl/princess/feary/elf (just put here the word you prefer), OMG, I need sunglasses to look at her with her green hairs and pink dress 😆. Clearly, even with the better graphics and the red book music, I'm not sure I would be able to play this version to the end controlling this ridiculous little "scarab-knight" 😂 But many thanks, you corrected my false vision of this game and I will give it a try on my Megadrive with the japanese ROM 👍😇.
@Benjamin Owuye Jagun Sounds like this would be a great candidate for a MD+ hack. Redbook audio of the PC Engine version, but with the original Mega Drive version.
I play this on my Wonder Boy Sega Ages collection on the PlayStation 2, you can choose any Sega version on the fly and I like using the option for 240p on my CRT via RGB, looks so good. I do like them Sega Ages collection's I have all of them on a hard drive.
Yeah, I have that collection too. It's a good set of game. Also have it on the 360.
No more chapters or anything to show the guide list for parts of videos?
They should be there. Let me check
Three ports? Hurray! Now you can officially make a video for Gradius II 😎
@Diskun I might be wrong, but Gradius 3 has less ports than 2. I believe 3 was only ported to the SNES while the arcade rom is emulated in the PS2 compilation (don't quote me on that, I didn't do a proper research). Meanwhile, Gradius 2 was ported to the NES, PCengine and X86000.
My comment was just because in an older video where he asked for suggestions I suggested Gradius 2 and he mentioned it would have only three ports. I was just trying to tease him to make a Gradius 2 video since now he doesn't have the "oh, it is just three ports" excuse 😅 but it is all in the name of good fun (and possibly a Gradius 2 video 😎)
Gradius 2 can be a possibility. It can be a video for when I don't have time to make a long one.
@Diskun It's probably because your brain knew something was wrong with my text and it filled the blank. Did you notice that I spelled the first word wrong? I meant THREE and I spelled THERE. See, that's the 3 of your Gradius.😜
@@RetroCore Exactly! Thank you for considering it.
@Diskun I want Mark to SUFFER with Gradius 3. It's a game I suggested solely because the arcade game is probably the hardest game of all time.
Wow Mega Drive is best by far in my opinion
It does seem to have the most detail in the graphics but it is missing so much.
PCE for the win!
@@BigBillKelly-x2z Pull your glass out of your ass haha. Darker? How about more colors and a softer look. The MD port is over contrasted. The parallax is minimal in this game. Crappy sprite redesigns? It's literally the just player sprite. Or do you mean like a character in one of the shops has a different hair colors because it's not limited to the same color restrictions as the MD port? Lmao downgraded music. The only thing downgraded here is your ability to look past your own bias.
Such a shame that the Master System version was cut down, probably in an effort to use a smaller cart. God I hate when Sega did that, trying to save money. Could have been such an amazing SMS port had they not done that.
Yeah, they did that a lot for western releases. Such a shame.
I have always been very surprised about the fact that Sega didn't give the Master System version of Monster World III also a counterpart Game Gear version to be released in Japan and maybe North America, even though North America never got the Game Gear version of Monster World II and did a quite odd renaming to the Game Gear version of the first Wonder Boy. Maybe this had some relation to limit this in the minds of the Sega higher ups. But then again, it should have been done, in order to give the Japanese market a release of this "8 bit demake". Same as it was done with the Japanese Game Gear release of Monster World II, actually.
Yeah, it is very strange. I wonder if they thought the Game Gear just didn't have enough life in it? The Master System was still selling in parts of Europe and South America at that point.
@@RetroCore I don't think so. This was 1993 and at that point Sega was still pushing the Game Gear because it had some decent North American sales and the Japanese sales weren't too bad for their expectations. I believe it was in Europe, funnily enough, were the system was faring worse (the same exact situation was happening then with the Mega CD). It was on the contrary, Sega was starting to fade out the Master System and while in 1993 there was still a lot of joint Master System and Game Gear releases, in 1994 you could see a trend starting of games being released on the Game Gear but not on the Master System, the most prominent situation in that regard was probably Sonic the Hedgehog Triple Trouble (which was intended for the Master System at first, but then was cancelled), and then TecToy had to call the shots with Sega from 1995 onwards to get all those Game Gear titles converted and released on the Master System themselves. So something very strange had to happen with this opposite situation, a game like this being released for the Master System which limited your markets to essentially Europe, Australia and Brazil, and strangely not releasing it also on the Game Gear which allowed for Japan and North America releases as well. Probably Sega thought that the Wonder Boy fandom was much more present on the Master System because of sales of games like Monster World II (The Dragon's Trap), even that would involve limiting regions, and not so much on the Game Gear despite the fact that they would skip Japan which got the previous two Wonder Boy titles on the Game Gear (same as Europe, but unlike North America which skipped The Dragon's Trap and renamed the first Wonder Boy to something like "Revenge of Drancon"). I can't get other type of reasoning behind this. The game can still be played on the Game Gear obviously, but the Master System resolution squashes the game and hinders aspects like especially reading texts. A proper Game Gear conversion like the one Monster World II got would have been ideal.
How are items and magic handled in the PC Engine version? The Genesis version uses the A button and a direction for that, while using the B and C buttons for attacking and jumping, but the PC Engine controller only has two action buttons. Do you have to hold Select and use a directional arrow?
Same way but instead of button A, the Run button is used.
The PCE has a three button pad - FYI. You select which of the third button is mapped to.. select or run. I play all my PCE games with this 3 button Ave pad. There's even turbo for extra button or "hold" mode as well. Honestly, I can't imagine owning PCE games and not owning this official 3 button pad hahah.
Great video as always! You should do Capcom vs SNK 2 next.
Maybe in the future.
I get so confused about the wonderboy naming of games. You done a video about the whole series yet?
No, not yet. Its something I would like to look in to doing.
There's an Amiga port I believe
It must be unofficial if there is. Kind of like the PC version I showed.
Do Unreal Tournament (1999) BotP, Mark✌️
Hmm...... Maybe some day.
@@RetroCore Quake III Arena was also released for 6th gen consoles. Just a suggestion.
Nice comparison, I personally prefer the original (lots of nostalgia for it).
I made a 100% long play a while back in case you're interested:
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I stay with the sega genesis one. The pc engine is good but I don't like the Dyna character.
I can understand that. The styling is horrible and too childish.
Yeah PC Engine main character design is really laughable even for 90s standard it's bad, it's like they try copy Saint Seiya but failed hard, but i still have soft spot for full armor character than Heroic character like Master System and Genesis one it's probably coz I start sick with Dragon Quest default hero design, it's not bad but leave so many desire for hero who must defeat evil wear normal clothes not full armor it's kinda lame to me.
What a coincidence. I was just showing my friend how hideous the western cover art is for this game 😅. At least the game is great in it's own right.
Oh yes. It's particularly bad airbrushed junk.
it sort of looks like a sonic prototype doesn't it ? even the story matches ...
I mean, palms and blue sky in the first level and other similarities but I think it's just coincidental.
I know about the game, but actually never play it.