Solo Board Gaming: Designing Games for One Player or Solo Play Modes

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2020
  • This video looks at 10 factors designers need to consider when designing a solo Board Game, or a solo mode for their multiplayer game.
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  • @bruceknight3720
    @bruceknight3720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A cup of tea, and some food for thought over another lockdown breakfast. I like the solo mode on Spring Meadow, and have played countless games of Onirim.
    Cheers, Adam

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as a content creator from wales who focuses on solo modes i found this video very informative... thanks adam. Stay Hexy!

  • @andresep
    @andresep 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the Black Sonata's automa works very well.

  • @nirszi
    @nirszi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You explained Architects of the West Kingdom in two minutes better than I saw in half hour videos.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I always get bored with long video explanations (unless I’m after a proper tutorial like one of Rodney Smith’s) so I decided many years ago that I would try to condense the rules to 1-2 minutes, no matter how complex the game is! It’s a good skill to have because it’s essential for pitching my own games to publishers!

    • @nirszi
      @nirszi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AdaminWales I'd love to watch you explain complex games in a short time. You did great with Scythe and Wingspan too.

  • @user-bb3kw8gx1n
    @user-bb3kw8gx1n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve decided good game mechanics should show themself in, and produce, a solid solo experience that is then made more interesting by having multiple player modes.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a nice reversal of the standard approach and I can see it working for some styles of games - except those games which are entirely reliant on player interaction,

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey adam im a welsh man who does a solo focused board game channel im pretty new but would love to work with you after this lockdown as your the only other welsh board game channel i can find lol great video man
    stay Hexy!

  • @davewetherall5382
    @davewetherall5382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video as usual. Thinking about it, most of the time I try solo modes is when I’m learning a game before playing multiplayer mode with others. So for me, I’m keen that solitaire mode should be as similar as possible to the multiplayer game, and that where they do deviate from the multiplayer mode this is clearly explained. I thought Agricola, 1066 Tears to Many Mothers and Villagers solo modes all worked well from this perspective.
    I hadn’t realised Magic Maze had a solo mode, but from your description sounds too far from the original to be of anything other than passing interest.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree - I have often attempted to learn a game and thought about trying the solo mode - then been put off by the extra rules required to control a bot etc.

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    based on what you have said about imperial assault i would suggest you try LOTR: journeys in middle earth its controlled similarly but has better app control and solves some of the issues u have

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    one of my personal solo opponents is HAL from Black Angel

  • @bryanwelsh6383
    @bryanwelsh6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another good topic!
    I hope you talk more about cooperation in board games, including in non-cooperative games (temporary alliances etc) in future.

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  • @keithparker1346
    @keithparker1346 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep meaning to write out and upload to BGG rules for 2 solo variants i made of Ticket To Ride London. One version is a simplistic ai for opponents and the other more a puzzle of always satisfying the condition of a ticket. I prefer the ai

  • @mistercreed5507
    @mistercreed5507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work! Do you have any suggestions to make some Vast bots?

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry I haven’t played Vast!

  • @whoeveriam0iam14222
    @whoeveriam0iam14222 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Personally I'm not a fan of super broad player count games. You never know upon buying if it's basically a solo game that has enough components for 5 players (with possibly lots of waiting for your turn) or if it's a group game with some solo mode that plays completely differently

  • @mmikoff
    @mmikoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Adam, great video! Are there any solo modes you disliked? I personally found Teotihuacan's solo mode unnecessarily tedious.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mihail, I don't know if it was obvious but I'm not a big solo player - so it was a bit of a new experience learning these bots etc. I've played a few games solo over the years, but never invested much time in it - so I'm still working out what I like. I enjoyed Las Vegas Boulevard and D-Day Dice the most I think. I love the Smart Games range of puzzles. And Scythe felt really deep and rich to dip into despite the complexity.
      I don't see myself playing Tiny Towns, Gorus Maximus, or Magic Maze in solo-mode. They were fun, simple puzzles - but didn't feel like something I would want to come back to time and again. Although I like all of those games in multiplayer mode.
      I didn't enjoy the complexity of Imperial Assault (solo) at all. But I suspect that if I had recently bought it, and spent hours going through the rulebook and immersing myself in it, it probably would have more to offer. Because I bought it so long ago, I can't muster the enthusiasm for all that prep work before playing.

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i really enjoy that iq puzzler pro tbh its on my desk lol

  • @juanpablozabala4975
    @juanpablozabala4975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Adam, I wonder how you feel about WWE Superstar Showdown. I enjoy it as silly fun and I also think its sad how it got such a cold reception, eventually cancelling its expansion :(

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was fun. I haven't played it much. I was a big fan of the card game Wrasslin when I was a teenager, and wanted to explore how other games have approached wrestling - hence buying Superstar Showdown, and also Luchador Mexican Wrestling Dice. Superstar Showdown doesn't hold as much appeal because I'm not familiar with the wrestlers in it. I was only really a fan as a kid (Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior etc.) But I hold onto it because I have a lingering thought that I might make a wrestling game one day!

    • @juanpablozabala4975
      @juanpablozabala4975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AdaminWales Great to hear Adam! Can´t wait for your take on this genre. Greetings from Argentina!

  • @cantrip7
    @cantrip7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel seen! Thanks for the video, and the Smart Games plug-I love the tactility of solo puzzlers.
    A couple of my favorite solo modes: Samurai Spirit and Flash Duel. Samurai Spirit, as many co-op games, makes you control 2 characters, but it gives you all special abilities from the 5 unused characters as one-use powers. It's real fun and relayable, and replicates the agony of the normal game! Flash Duel has sone simple automa, but trying to beat em with all the different characters offers some fun puzzley edge cases.
    And Arkham Horror TCG scales well solo, but it's, uh, really expensive for one player. Guess that goes for all the co-op LCGs.
    Sagrada DOES have a solo mode! I can't remember if it was introduced in an expansion or not. Anyway, it's pretty simple and clever: adding up the pips on the round tracker determines the target score. Generally, I prefer high-score games to introduce target scores this way, so I can't Beat the Game Forever. There's a video game for PC & mobile with a fun campaign mode as well.
    I'd love a video about dedicated solo game mechanics somewhere down the line, but I understand if you'd never get to it. An element that sticks out to me: entropy. Instead of getting more powerful, you narrow the range of decisions that advance the game state, often screwing yourself over. "If only I did THIS instead!" I find em fascinating.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, I'll definitely try Flash Duel. I have that game and enjoyed my first couple of plays, but have rarely played it since. I didn't know it played solo.
      Glad you feel seen! Your earlier comment (along with my own exploration of solo design for my prototype) prompted the video.

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im not a fan of scythe really but i do enjoy the digital version

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Hexy Beast Interesting. What is it that you don’t like about the physical game, that the digital version fixes?

  • @tristianzero3106
    @tristianzero3106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a board game player, but I found it would be easier to code some AI oponent using a basic phone app.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely! And many board games do this.
      But there are many board gamers who don’t like apps in their games (they often play tabletop games to escape screens). And some designers enjoy the challenge of creating an ingenious physical AI opponent (and most board game designers don’t have the skill or budget to build an app).

  • @TheHexyBeast
    @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are there games where u think the solo mode is better than the multiplayer? for me this is marvel champions i really love it solo but every time i have played with others it has dragged out and been much more fiddly

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Hexy Beast I certainly felt that way about Pathfinder ACG. I never really wanted to play that with others, but enjoyed it solo.

    • @TheHexyBeast
      @TheHexyBeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdaminWales just done a stream of pathfinder with paul grogan on gaming rules using table top simulator was good fun

    • @notacontentprovider
      @notacontentprovider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mage Knight plays better solo because there is no longer any wait time in between turns and as decision making game, you need time!

  • @bryanwelsh6383
    @bryanwelsh6383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Adam's Boardgame Wales Any new content coming soon?

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think so Bryan. This new Covid world has put a lot of demands on my time, and sadly there are few opportunities to play games, or make videos. I’m hoping I’ll get a chance to show off my new game Kompromat in a video soon though. It’s going to be hard to do an end-of-year review this year - I’ll certainly struggle to produce a top ten!

    • @bryanwelsh6383
      @bryanwelsh6383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdaminWales That's unfortunate to hear, but hopefully one day you'll be back at it. I'll keep an eye out for any new videos. Perhaps you could do a video on your all time favourites or what got you into board games instead?

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bryanwelsh6383 Good ideas! Thanks.

  • @grutto83
    @grutto83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tiny towns and cartographer are basicly the same games except that the last one is way more cheaper

  • @literallyh3093
    @literallyh3093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeet

  • @kosterix123
    @kosterix123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But you can’t trust smart games. I several cases where my solution was more optimal.

    • @AdaminWales
      @AdaminWales  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! I haven’t found this yet myself. I’m not that good at them! :D

  • @kosterix123
    @kosterix123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re only showcasing automa that exist, not how to design one. Misleading title.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbf it's a rather involved process that would be better to read off Automa Factory's own designer diaries
      That being said, showcasing different approaches like this can still be valuable

    • @kosterix123
      @kosterix123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@revimfadli4666 I designated a specific playlist in my channel to solo ai/automa. The spectrum is much broader than just stonemayer things.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kosterix123 indeed, though Automa Factory's works follow certain presence/impact-oriented design principles