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Yes, it can seem quite overwhelming at times. To be honest the support from everyone really gives us a boost when we need it so thank you for following 🙏🏻👍
I'm currently 15 months into the rebuild of my 43ft steel boat and it's never ending...i would be inclined to get the hull done asap and superstructure sorted first job ... to stop leaks and halt further corrosion there is some serious new plating required on this boat .. unless you can get this sorted there is no point doing all the small stuff ... i really hope you have deep pockets for this job... i wish you all the best and i'll be watching good luck 👍
Great video tour. Clearly alot of work to be done and having to do a six hour drive makes it all the more challenging. I eagerly look forward to your next video. Cheers
Good tour of upcoming jobs Shaun, those Penta’s are first class power units, reliable and with a lot of grunt, they love clean oil and filter changes regularly, Rachel has done a grand job. So lots of patching and welding to do but as you say, summer will see more productivity, thanks for taking the time to share progress, good luck!
We just found your channel. We are watching from 🇨🇦 Canada 🇨🇦 I was born in Stoke but immigrated when I was just a tot. OMG that looks like quite the project! We are fixing up a cruising boat ourselves and are trying to document it on TH-cam....but nothing like you have taken on. Good luck mate and look forward to seeing your progress.
I wondered if the Welsh bad weather had been the reason for no posts. You certainly do have great determination, I doff my non-existent cap to you looking at the massive project. Really enjoy, but I'm watching this from a blistering 34°c day here in Joburg.
We love the warm weather and flirted with the idea of moving to SA at one stage. We have a few friends that way. The short days and the long drive are slowing us down for the winter, and we can’t plan any outdoor jobs until spring. Plenty to do inside for now - including internal hull prep. Thanks for watching - have a cold beer for us 👍😉🤣
This is a massive project by the time you get to the finish line you may find it was cheaper to buy a good one.I like the way you look at it through rust tinted glasses
Please check the teak for leaks, we had plywood backed teak decking on corten steel decks. If water penetrates and soakes into the ply the steel will be corroding underneath. Would also suggest an isolation transformer early on for safety reasons, all steel yachts should have one fitted for stray currents. Keep the good work up.
Thank you for the advice. Indeed, it was the lack of isolation that caused much of the corrosion and we will attend to this. We will be inspecting the steel under the decks very closely.
Been watching you from the beginning. There's a lot of work to do but you both seem undaunted. Keep nibbling away an you'll get there. Hopefully your channel will continue to go. I know from watching similar TH-cam channels there's lots of people like me out there. Thanks for sharing.
I really admire your enthusiam to undertake such a big project with lots of unknowns. Make sure you check the engines over for any water ingress into places where it shouldn't be before you hit the start button. Cheers ian
hello, I use google translate. What a huge project you have brought upon yourself. We had a similar ship, a 45 ft superfalcon from 1992. We also carried out a major refit on that. Good luck with your refit, it will ultimately be a beautiful ship with a very nice line.
This is a large undertaking. I hope you can get it done and enjoy it. I am sorry to say it looks like it's going to take you a long time to get it done. My rough guess is 18 months of 50 hr per week min. and if you are only working on it part time, I feel it's going to take you 10-15 yrs... I am hoping I am wrong... good luck, I am sure I am not the only that will be prying for you guys..
@jamesngross178 10 - 15 years ? That is even optimistic. The only way to do this properly is to empty the whole boat and then start all over again. If you need to do this project based on a couple of days each week you will be going back to the first work and performing maintenance again. I am perfectly happy to say this boat will never be ready if they want to do this with just the 2 of them, it is impossible. I am getting the idea they want to patch it up, put paint over it and hope they won't need to address it again. Unfortunately that is not how it works.
I never realise how bad rust can get. Until I joined the merch. We had rust that was like sheets of plated steel. It was one ship I was one, the foc’ cle head was non existence after we chipped away at it. . Hats off to you both 👍👍. Get a tarpaulin over the whole boat. Then there’s no worries about the Welsh sunny weather 😂
I mean, I saw the first video and you've made a LOT of progress. No longer seems like a complete lost cause (not to be mean, or anything), so it's quite impressive what you've done so far, but obviously still a way to go. I'm quite impressed so far tbh!
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, we've been woking n her a bit at a time and we're seeing progress. Rachelle's cleaning skills have also worked wonders.
She use to be a beautiful boat, When she was first launched. Someone was a proud new boat owner the day, but today's not that day lol. It would be interesting to see her restore back to her original Glory
No idea how I got to this video, but after seeing a few minutes of your walk around I realized this is a bottomless moneypit. You have not started yet, which is good, since you can still walk away from it with minimum loss. Basically you would need to strip the boat completely (also the interior has to come out) and then start patching up. I am thinking that buying a new casco hull and building it up from there would be a much better and cheaper idea. At least you will start with a good basis. Sorry for being the bearer of bad news, but having done a refurb of my old boat (1979) for a small fortune and having friends who are now in their 7th year of restoring a wooden sailing vessel, who are not even close to finishing, but have run out of money, I can only say that I fear you will be long dead before this boat is back in the water. That is if you want to do it properly. If you are just looking for a quick fix you will be in the water earlier, but then the boat won't be safe.
We daren't estimate either the cost or the time. We do what we can when we can, and try to enjoy the journey as well as the destination. I think we'll have a better idea in 6 months time. Thanks for watching
Are you going to rip out everything like they’ve done in these other videos. Or are you trying to keep as much of the furniture there. It does look in pretty good shape 👍👍
We’re going to try to keep as much as possible, but we might have to remove furniture we don’t want to. We’ll need to remove all corrosion one way or another. We may need to get creative
Hi, I'm enjoying the progress, can I ask, it seems the traveling to WW is so time consuming and costly that wouldn't it pay to have the boat transported to a local farmers land or similar? Would it not pay for itself in the long run and free up so much travel time?
Thank you for watching. The boat is too big to be transported by road. It could be transported by sea but the cost would be extortionate. We have a plan to increase the time spent with the boat. We'll update everyone as this unfolds.
What I don’t understand. If it’s 4mm steel which seems thin to start with. How can the reading be more than 4mm? I would’ve thought 10mm would be the norm for a hull 👍👍
@@taffythegreat1986 10mm is the kind of steel you find on a freshwater barge that never gets lifted. It likely measures greater than 4mm in areas as it’s a single frequency ultrasound so can’t easily differentiate between paint and debris on the internal surface. 4mm is not uncommon for year and length in a pleasure vessel though Van Der Valk tell me they now use 5mm. If the concern is that it has corroded down to 4mm from a greater thickness, this is why I cut some good sections out so I could measure the initial thickness of the good steel.
@@SavingBlueSteel normally they use 6 mm steel as a minimum when they start. It is not only necessary to keep the water out, but also to give strength to the hull. 4 mm is really too thin. A boat like that would only be good for lakes and canals. I would not want to take it out to sea with 4 mm.
The engine are probably in better condition than the heat of the boat. Believe it or not, but power boats like that really aren't all that worn out, the engines are probably barely used. Boats corrode from sitting in the water and hardly get used so the engines are probably Barely Used
Why not put a tarp over it at the bare minimum rather than continuing to let it rot. Everything needs to be fixed on this boat, unless you live on it full time and work on it every day or have deep pockets to get a proper shipyard do it for you it’s a lost cause.
@ I know well, I’m NOT wrong, been there done that! Not boats, but antique airplanes and 40 years experience. Despite it’s claim to be of dutch origin, to me this doesn’t look like being built with a high quality dutch marine steel. Even if a guy got the steel for free, my friend, she is way to far gone! I seriously fear she might break apart on you. The corrosion on the outside is one thing, the truly serious issue is the corrosion on the inside! But on top of all that, the interior is also in very poor shape and to a big degree probably not even salvageable. To apply proper corrosion protection you need to gut the whole ship. After that you deal with engines and electrics. But lets say in the unlikely event you master all this and succeed at getting her back to float, you need to cover insurance, fuel, maintenance and marina costs. Assuming 100 hrs a year, a boat this size will easily require £100’000 plus/year. Don’t forget those old diesels are thirsty! I seriously think there are much better and way more interesting projects out there for a successful TH-cam project! I very much hate to spoil someone’s dream, but I truly think: rather a scary end as a never ending scare! Wishing you the very best!
@@samaipata4756 fully agree with you. After seeing the first minutes I realized this boat is too far gone, this will be a bottomless moneypit and she will never be back in the water. There are projects on TH-cam where they work with an army of volunteers, work basically 7 days a week and after 5 years they have not even started with the interior. As for the upkeep. I have a 50' trawler, which I restored for around 250.000 euro. She still costs me close to 75.000 a year to run, maintain, fuel, repair, insure etc. Am getting the idea OP saw this boat and thinks it is an opportunity to be on the water for a fraction of the normal cost. In reality this is a great opportunity to go bankrupt.
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I have been watching since day one, this is a massive undertaking and I am watching with interest, lots of luck with the project.
Yes, it can seem quite overwhelming at times. To be honest the support from everyone really gives us a boost when we need it so thank you for following 🙏🏻👍
I'm currently 15 months into the rebuild of my 43ft steel boat and it's never ending...i would be inclined to get the hull done asap and superstructure sorted first job ... to stop leaks and halt further corrosion there is some serious new plating required on this boat .. unless you can get this sorted there is no point doing all the small stuff ... i really hope you have deep pockets for this job... i wish you all the best and i'll be watching good luck 👍
Very true words.. maybe better to withdraw all your cash and then set fire to it :(
Thanks for watching. The hull is the major work, we hope to make more significant progress on it very soon.
Great video tour. Clearly alot of work to be done and having to do a six hour drive makes it all the more challenging.
I eagerly look forward to your next video.
Cheers
The drive is a challenge, but we’re hatching a cunning plan we’ll share soon if goes the way we hope😉
Good tour of upcoming jobs Shaun, those Penta’s are first class power units, reliable and with a lot of grunt, they love clean oil and filter changes regularly, Rachel has done a grand job. So lots of patching and welding to do but as you say, summer will see more productivity, thanks for taking the time to share progress, good luck!
Thank you for watching - we look forward to prepping the engines for starting 🤞
We just found your channel. We are watching from 🇨🇦 Canada 🇨🇦 I was born in Stoke but immigrated when I was just a tot. OMG that looks like quite the project!
We are fixing up a cruising boat ourselves and are trying to document it on TH-cam....but nothing like you have taken on.
Good luck mate and look forward to seeing your progress.
Thank you for following along from Canada. Good luck with your own project 👍
I wondered if the Welsh bad weather had been the reason for no posts. You certainly do have great determination, I doff my non-existent cap to you looking at the massive project. Really enjoy, but I'm watching this from a blistering 34°c day here in Joburg.
We love the warm weather and flirted with the idea of moving to SA at one stage. We have a few friends that way. The short days and the long drive are slowing us down for the winter, and we can’t plan any outdoor jobs until spring. Plenty to do inside for now - including internal hull prep. Thanks for watching - have a cold beer for us 👍😉🤣
This is a massive project by the time you get to the finish line you may find it was cheaper to buy a good one.I like the way you look at it through rust tinted glasses
You’re probably right, but we didn’t buy her to save money. We bought her for the adventure and to rescue her.
Please check the teak for leaks, we had plywood backed teak decking on corten steel decks. If water penetrates and soakes into the ply the steel will be corroding underneath. Would also suggest an isolation transformer early on for safety reasons, all steel yachts should have one fitted for stray currents. Keep the good work up.
Thank you for the advice. Indeed, it was the lack of isolation that caused much of the corrosion and we will attend to this. We will be inspecting the steel under the decks very closely.
Love the new project. Thanks for making the videos.
Glad you like them! - thanks for watching 👍❤️
I admire your courage voor al that work you have to do I keep follow your progress keep going 👍👍
Thank you for your encouragement
Keep going Shaun don't get disheartened its worth it in the end 😎😎🤘🤘
Thank you - the winter slows us down but we keep progressing. 👍
Been watching you from the beginning. There's a lot of work to do but you both seem undaunted. Keep nibbling away an you'll get there. Hopefully your channel will continue to go. I know from watching similar TH-cam channels there's lots of people like me out there. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching from the beginning. Nibbling away is exactly what we do and it's surprising how it all starts to add up.
I really admire your enthusiam to undertake such a big project with lots of unknowns. Make sure you check the engines over for any water ingress into places where it shouldn't be before you hit the start button. Cheers ian
Thanks for the advice Ian - we'll definitely make sure we do that.
Nice to see around the boat again. Really looking forward to some steel fabrication/repair.
Me too - I’ll really feel we’re progressing once we start getting stuck into the steel 👍
*LOOKS SUPER THIS BOAT*
Thank you
I have been enjoying this from the beginning as it’s a motor yacht rebuild most are sailing yachts infa t I don’t think there is another at all 😊
It was really a beautiful yats. Are you really going to fix everything or live like hermits in this renovation field are you able to show us
hello, I use google translate. What a huge project you have brought upon yourself. We had a similar ship, a 45 ft superfalcon from 1992. We also carried out a major refit on that. Good luck with your refit, it will ultimately be a beautiful ship with a very nice line.
Thank you 🙏
Nice tour, its time to get cracking with a grinder and a welder now ..
This is a large undertaking. I hope you can get it done and enjoy it. I am sorry to say it looks like it's going to take you a long time to get it done. My rough guess is 18 months of 50 hr per week min. and if you are only working on it part time, I feel it's going to take you 10-15 yrs... I am hoping I am wrong... good luck, I am sure I am not the only that will be prying for you guys..
Thank you for your prayers. Hopefully we can find more time to work on her in the new year.
@jamesngross178 10 - 15 years ? That is even optimistic. The only way to do this properly is to empty the whole boat and then start all over again. If you need to do this project based on a couple of days each week you will be going back to the first work and performing maintenance again. I am perfectly happy to say this boat will never be ready if they want to do this with just the 2 of them, it is impossible. I am getting the idea they want to patch it up, put paint over it and hope they won't need to address it again. Unfortunately that is not how it works.
I never realise how bad rust can get. Until I joined the merch. We had rust that was like sheets of plated steel. It was one ship I was one, the foc’ cle head was non existence after we chipped away at it. . Hats off to you both 👍👍. Get a tarpaulin over the whole boat. Then there’s no worries about the Welsh sunny weather 😂
Same here. Some area that just look like a patch of rust become holes when hit with the needle gun.
I mean, I saw the first video and you've made a LOT of progress. No longer seems like a complete lost cause (not to be mean, or anything), so it's quite impressive what you've done so far, but obviously still a way to go. I'm quite impressed so far tbh!
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, we've been woking n her a bit at a time and we're seeing progress. Rachelle's cleaning skills have also worked wonders.
She use to be a beautiful boat, When she was first launched. Someone was a proud new boat owner the day, but today's not that day lol. It would be interesting to see her restore back to her original Glory
No idea how I got to this video, but after seeing a few minutes of your walk around I realized this is a bottomless moneypit. You have not started yet, which is good, since you can still walk away from it with minimum loss.
Basically you would need to strip the boat completely (also the interior has to come out) and then start patching up. I am thinking that buying a new casco hull and building it up from there would be a much better and cheaper idea. At least you will start with a good basis.
Sorry for being the bearer of bad news, but having done a refurb of my old boat (1979) for a small fortune and having friends who are now in their 7th year of restoring a wooden sailing vessel, who are not even close to finishing, but have run out of money, I can only say that I fear you will be long dead before this boat is back in the water. That is if you want to do it properly. If you are just looking for a quick fix you will be in the water earlier, but then the boat won't be safe.
Yeah, the boat is a write off.
Have you considered using rust inhibitor chemical to reduce and eliminate future rust and on spots you have already worked on?
We've been using Jenolite to temporarily halt some of the corrosion, and we'll be using it to prep for paint in some areas too.
Well you know if you stand back on a cloudy day and shut your eyes, it doesn't really look too bad. I'll be interested to see how things go.
Stay positive and keep going 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you, and we will!
Great stuff
Thank you
Looks like a hell of a lot of work and money before it's back on the water , How long do you think ut would take to get it (ship shape)
We daren't estimate either the cost or the time. We do what we can when we can, and try to enjoy the journey as well as the destination. I think we'll have a better idea in 6 months time. Thanks for watching
Lovely engines ,
Never thought I would see a place with worse weather than Pittsburgh.
😆
Are you going to rip out everything like they’ve done in these other videos. Or are you trying to keep as much of the furniture there. It does look in pretty good shape 👍👍
We’re going to try to keep as much as possible, but we might have to remove furniture we don’t want to. We’ll need to remove all corrosion one way or another. We may need to get creative
@ that’ll be fun. 😂. Good luck with that 👍👍👍👍
Hi, I'm enjoying the progress, can I ask, it seems the traveling to WW is so time consuming and costly that wouldn't it pay to have the boat transported to a local farmers land or similar? Would it not pay for itself in the long run and free up so much travel time?
Thank you for watching. The boat is too big to be transported by road. It could be transported by sea but the cost would be extortionate. We have a plan to increase the time spent with the boat. We'll update everyone as this unfolds.
Lot of work on your hands there fella
You're right there!
You've certainly got your work cut out there good luck
We have indeed - thank you, and thanks for watching.
I wondered what happened to that paramotor guy!!!!
The fat one? I hear he made it rich selling pictures of his abs on Only Fans.
What I don’t understand. If it’s 4mm steel which seems thin to start with. How can the reading be more than 4mm? I would’ve thought 10mm would be the norm for a hull 👍👍
@@taffythegreat1986 10mm is the kind of steel you find on a freshwater barge that never gets lifted. It likely measures greater than 4mm in areas as it’s a single frequency ultrasound so can’t easily differentiate between paint and debris on the internal surface. 4mm is not uncommon for year and length in a pleasure vessel though Van Der Valk tell me they now use 5mm. If the concern is that it has corroded down to 4mm from a greater thickness, this is why I cut some good sections out so I could measure the initial thickness of the good steel.
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When you look a a tape measure, 5mm looks bugger all, especially 4mm. Yet these steel boats looks really solid. 👍👍
@@SavingBlueSteel normally they use 6 mm steel as a minimum when they start. It is not only necessary to keep the water out, but also to give strength to the hull. 4 mm is really too thin. A boat like that would only be good for lakes and canals. I would not want to take it out to sea with 4 mm.
The engine are probably in better condition than the heat of the boat. Believe it or not, but power boats like that really aren't all that worn out, the engines are probably barely used. Boats corrode from sitting in the water and hardly get used so the engines are probably Barely Used
Why not put a tarp over it at the bare minimum rather than continuing to let it rot. Everything needs to be fixed on this boat, unless you live on it full time and work on it every day or have deep pockets to get a proper shipyard do it for you it’s a lost cause.
A perfect project to waste tons of money‼️😂
You're not wrong!
@ I know well, I’m NOT wrong, been there done that! Not boats, but antique airplanes and 40 years experience. Despite it’s claim to be of dutch origin, to me this doesn’t look like being built with a high quality dutch marine steel. Even if a guy got the steel for free, my friend, she is way to far gone! I seriously fear she might break apart on you. The corrosion on the outside is one thing, the truly serious issue is the corrosion on the inside! But on top of all that, the interior is also in very poor shape and to a big degree probably not even salvageable. To apply proper corrosion protection you need to gut the whole ship. After that you deal with engines and electrics. But lets say in the unlikely event you master all this and succeed at getting her back to float, you need to cover insurance, fuel, maintenance and marina costs. Assuming 100 hrs a year, a boat this size will easily require £100’000 plus/year. Don’t forget those old diesels are thirsty! I seriously think there are much better and way more interesting projects out there for a successful TH-cam project!
I very much hate to spoil someone’s dream, but I truly think: rather a scary end as a never ending scare! Wishing you the very best!
@@samaipata4756 fully agree with you. After seeing the first minutes I realized this boat is too far gone, this will be a bottomless moneypit and she will never be back in the water. There are projects on TH-cam where they work with an army of volunteers, work basically 7 days a week and after 5 years they have not even started with the interior.
As for the upkeep. I have a 50' trawler, which I restored for around 250.000 euro. She still costs me close to 75.000 a year to run, maintain, fuel, repair, insure etc. Am getting the idea OP saw this boat and thinks it is an opportunity to be on the water for a fraction of the normal cost. In reality this is a great opportunity to go bankrupt.
Following! What a project wow. No offense but please more of the boat and less close ups of you lol. Really it’s about the boat!
Thanks for following - my Mum says she'd like to see more close ups of me. I don't know who to listen to now! 😀😉
@@SavingBlueSteel haha! I think you know the answer
Never mind I commented to early in the video.😅
Hats off for all the work. These boats are poorly built. I would build a tent around them out of shrink wrap.
More work than value. I don’t get it.