@@TromaFR thanks,i still have my dev jacket in the closset lol, i think it would have just taken a little better management to keep this game alive for the long term
Thank you for the hundreds and hundreds of hours of fun my friends and I had with the game. It truly is my favorite mmo, and I wish a new one would come around one day.
i was just a lowly environment artist, tho i will say probably my proudest achievement was heading up the level design for nordenwatch scenario,@@DMoss84
I still love this game today. You all did incredible and I loved it back in the day too. Do you have a favourite memory from working on it? Maybe a fun thing you saw as a team?
My mother loved this game so much and even got to know the devs so well that when she passed away they even had a large funeral ceremony for her and a gravestone with her main characters name is now in the graveyard.
Condolences dude, that was also extremely wholesome on their part. This was my favorite game at the time. I QUIT WoW for this game, I played a Marauder on Chaos and Bright Wizard on Order. I had the one of the best MMORPG experiences with this game.
@@GamingDualities great idea if you want people to not even bother playing your game when they can't join their friends And kill servers that are not perfectly balanced already (which means kill most of them) You don't realise what are the consequences of such block
The damaging being done to you is because your heat build up is at 100. It's your class's special mechanic. As you cast spells, it builds up heat. The more heat, the more damage your spells do, but the greater chance of the spells triggering backlash (dealing damage to you). You should have at least one ability that will drain your heat. I play a Dark Elf Sorcerer and while our class special mechanics are differently named, they're essentially the same mechanic because they work the same way. In fact, every class in the game has a class on the opposite faction that it's basically a twin of. High Elf Archmages and Goblin Shamans both have to balance out damage and healing spells. Chaos Chosen and Human Knights of the Blazing Sun both have auras. Dwarf Engineers and Chaos Magus can both use turrets (actual turrets for the engineer, stationary daemons for the magus). And so on and so fourth. The game is largely a PVP focus MMO first. So a lot of the PvE stuff isn't really worked on as much as as the PVP stuff. You'll most likely never see a Cash Shop in Return of Reckoning, even way into the future, since the only reason they're able to remain open instead of being sued into oblivion by EA/BioWare is because the game itself is completely free. You can donate to them, but there's now buying anything since they technically can't make money off the game. They're dedicated fans doing this because they want to, not because they're seeking to make money. And it really shows.
XD perfect explinaiton but you missed something, It also increases your crit chance. BR is a risk reward caster. Fun as hell if you can manage the cyclical pattern of its rotation and buffs
I loved that mechanic. Haven't played the game since the official servers were up. But damn did I love doing pvp as Sorcerer. The mechanic made it really fun, since you were very much a glass cannon. Doing big damage, but easily dying if you weren't careful.
As a lifelong fan of all things Warhammer (I am 50) this game was an absolute joy when it came out and kept me entertained for years. The PvP on this game is probably the most fun I have ever had playing with other people. This game recreated the Warhammer I knew and loved in such an accurate and downright loving way that I will never forget the fun I had playing it. Wonderful video sir, bravo!
While this game isn’t perfect, it’s honestly one of the best online experiences I’ve had. Leading warbands and fighting enemy warbands is the best feeling in the world, especially when you can celebrate victories with the people around you!
Yes. I especially loved the low level ones. Once on the Blighted isles, I've managed to pull off an amazing victory, gathering a disparate company when our side was losing significantly and the area was basically left to the enemy to occupy. Now I'm like 98% solo player and definitely not a leading type so it's pretty impressive for that. My sheer spite and my companions' stubborness led us through long enough for others who already gave up on this battlefield and went elsewere to come in and see us victorious in the end. And when we celebrated victory, it felt magnificent. That's what the playing MMOs should be about. You kill the mobs and finish quests but that's rarely something special. But to feel like a TRUE hero of the story... now that's something else. And that's why I remember it still.
This and Secret World are the only two mmos I know of that had the dual target system and it boggles me to this day that it didn't become standard. It made combat, PvP and PvE, so much more dynamic. Sure, everyone ripped off the open world events, and made them shitty wave fights, but no one steals the best UI choice in MMOs?
Double target was also extremely important for certain mechanics. There were healer spells that would drain your offensive target and heal your secondary target.
most of the devs are ass hats thats why it has low toxicity because they will literally ban you for anything they dont like (i killed a friend of a dev about 5x in ORVR solo and was banned for 7days because of it)
You really hit the nail on the head with the thought that this is the last bastion of what the genre once was. Most MMOs these days focus way too hard on monetization rather than creating an enjoyable experience.
The IP is still owned by EA as well as all the art assets and design itself. Any attempt to monetize the game would get the dev team lined up and executed by EAs law team.
Well the playerbase has changed a lot ... wow classic was great experiment, it turned into minmaxing shitfest in few weeks and unless you had braindead retail mentality there was pretty much nothing for you ... and that was vanilla, now with wotlk, the pvp is basically dead since it requires effort and the only other thing people do is log in for raid and then go off .. How do you create a fun game for people who dont want to have fun ...
@@CaptainSkylocke I like FFXIV. But the mogstation exists. It's one of the least egregious examples of monetization I can think of, but it's still egregious monetization.
@karsheoberon1936 ? There's absolutely nothing entitled about wanting cash shops to go away. They're blatant cash grabs that detract development resources from items that could be in game rewards or drops rather than whalebait. FFXIV is great, it's one of my favorite games, but the rabid blind defense of it without any care or regard to it's flaws, endemic to the industry they may be, is hilariously childish.
@karsheoberon1936 I mean, I don't think you do, considering I'm not the one throwing a hissy fit, and replying to TH-cam comments almost instantly. You might wanna look in a mirror and turn off that projection. It's ok, people are allowed to make critiques of your favorite game, you don't have to scream like a child in its defense softboi.
I probably shouldn't have, but I laughed when you hugged the chest in the PQ early on. Oh the early days! I'm glad you enjoyed your time with us Mitch and look forward to seeing Mr Cheeto on the battlefield in the future!
Hi, is there any possibility of a server with rank100 best in slot geared presets? I had a rank 100 magus, but i don't have the time and motivation to farm all these ranks and gear again.
So much more to the game…guilds, communities, keeps & forts, city and land of the dead, live events, and can’t forget fashion-hammer plus much much more. Been playing for years, and still having a blast. Thanks for sharing and see you in the lakes!
Have to say I am amazed by the speed with which you are producing these videos, without compromising the incredibly high standard of your work. The amount of time you spend researching and playing through is evident, and your editing, scripting and cinematography are all of such a high standard. Add to that your comedy value, and your obvious attention to detail, I defy anyone not to be incredibly impressed. You deserve way more subs, and if anyone deserves their channel to blow up based on talent it is you!
What makes the fan server so interesting, is that the guy running it refuses to take donations.. but there is a reason for it. The game was released by EA, and as long as he doesn't receive any money for it, they don't care. But if he receives just a single cent, then they might start to care and go after him.
Played this game since 2008 and am still enjoying it due to the massive open battles, and synergy that can be made with specifically designed warband compositions. Yes the game has it flaws and the commentary is about right. The people playing make the game great by adapting and changing methods for winning in different terrains and features like wide open field to choke point and sieges. Remember this is a team game that can be played solo - so the highest levels of victory will come from joining a guild and playing in organised groups, but fun can be had in solo/duo situations. Thanks for making this vid!
same here. i stopped playing because of the awful performance issues it suffered from launched. the game needed another year in development. looks tempting to try it again, but still seems to be a fair share of kooky bugs.
I remember having the time of my life as a Chaos Zealot. Healing always felt so rewarding since the combat is so brutal. And the fact that, given the right load out, you could out-damage some DPS casters? A truly beautiful experience.
This MMO was so underrated on launch. The pvp to this day is still the best pvp MMO experience Ive ever had (unless you count foxhole which I'm addicted to
I worked the original release of this title at GOA games. It was fantastic fun but they just tried to do too much in too little time. There were faction capitals designed for each race, and each was to have invasion mechanics, it just wasn't feasible in the time frame available. At launch the final city sieges still weren't working properly (I remember the looks of "Oh crap" when we ran the final internal test before launch and couldn't get a single full raid in to the instance), but the game just had to ship. The first players were knocking on the doors of Altdorf within the month, and it was still not working reliably. Without the end game content to give real emphasis to the RVR system, things started to fade. I was on a boat less than a year later going home with my redundancy in hand as GOA shut doors for the final time. A damn shame.
It's cool to hear there are people out there willing to put that much effort into making the game what it is today. I swear your the only one that opens up my eyes to games that I could and probably should be experiencing. And that was a close call when you ran into the Colonel! 😂
It's a great wee server for anyone who likes classic MMOs and PvP, but they can't monetise it at all so they can't really market the server, so youtubers like mitch/peon are the only reason anyone finds it really. Would def recommend it but fair warning, it will steal years of your life 🤣
@@KaisersGB The community is the best part of the server tbh, I've a few videos on my channel of how goofy the game/community can be if you're bored while it's downloading and want to see what you're getting into😎
RoR rocks. My Godfather was on the art team that created Age of Reckoning and I still have the boxed copy that he gave me. I have so many great memories from WAR and I've loved playing RoR for a number of years now. Great game.
the peasant running from the giant is actually a reference to a model from the tabletop game, a peasant in essentially that pose came with the plastic giant to have on his base haha
Great video as always. I especially loved the comments on the community aspects. My first MMO was Dark Age of Camelot and we had such a great community back in the day. You really got to know people. It's just not like that anymore.
I'm an old school EQ player, hell I still play off and on over the years. I feel you man, I always wanted to play DAoC at the time too, but was hooked on EverCrack. WoW changed everything, and not all for the better.
Oh man I still have my special edition box from 2008 with the art book and figurine etc, I was super hyped + into this game when new, and didn't know about this until I saw this video! I am downloading it now - thank you!!!
While the game certainly is PVP focussed, I really liked the Almanach. Exploration and farming and lore and actual useable rewards, all in one. Good stuff, and hard to find elsewhere.
@@hal900xthey needed some tweaks towards NPC enemies though. Make them more challenging and thoughtful by adding some additional unique skills or resistances. That would work greatly for Heroes and Champions to make them feel more rewarding and not just more HP hard hitting things. (I know that NPCs in endgame and dungeons already work like this but c’mon. Why not make not quest ones do the same from the start? Maybe add some more rare loot to them depending of how they scale towards you. For example if it’s Dangerous = more rare loot, if it’s trivial = common junk so you don’t farm them. This would make PvE so replayable.)
Items are race and class locked to not compromise the integrity of each factions aesthetic. Lorewise you would never, ever see a dwarf using a dark elf weapon or a human wearing chaos armor. Every class looks the way they should. Most, if not all of them, are based on their table top model counterparts.
yeah they just don't do faction only armor anymore, like back in the day with WoW pvp alliance had thier pvp armor and horde had theirs and that was something to honour and fight for, now every race can be any class any faction can wear any armor etc. Faction VS Faction MMOs is what brought people together, to share thier passion or detest for or against another faction, Warhammer IP is special though because we are seeing our models come to life in an MMO! I am going back to be a knight of the blazing sun! I remember reading a book called the Knights of Erant about bretonnia dealing with greenskins and man just reading a warhammer book just pumpt me up to run and play the warhammer mmo then it was gone...I am glad to hear it has come back I have been searching for world pvp for over a year now, something that is always there always reliable and always fun without feeling behind or left our or behind the upates etc , like Mitch said This game was the cloest to why we loved the genre!
I have been trying this, haven't got very far yet, so it's exciting to see you review this game! As always, you bring the comedy as well as excellent observation to your videos, and they're a delight to watch 😁
The gameplay itself is very fun, and 1-39 during new player surges is incredible. Lots of small skirmish action, some big blobs, and lots of coordinated and experienced groups. The feeling of character progression is great and every class now has its place in RVR. Endgame is a bit of a different vibe and anyone that's done city sieges and played with gravord/zunig or haojin will know what I mean.
Glad too see Mythic's two most popular PVP MMO'S still around. Dark Age of Camelot is my preferred choice. Three Realm PVP is just too awsome. For us older players its nostalgic fun. Not having to maintain an expensive PC build is even better. Give Dark Age of Camelot "Eden FreeShard" a look over. No buff bot accounts and no Trials of Atlantis time sinks.
WAR is one of my 3 favourite mmos of all time and I was really sad when it was shut down. Then some time after the code went open source, the RoR team took it and started re-created a server from scratch, bit by bit. When I started playing on it, not even Tier 3 was released yet and still the pleasure of roaming the world and doing scenarios and open RvR again was thrilling. Now the team has pretty much rebuilt the whole game and is now creating new content for it regularly, which is amazing. Thanks for your video which is really fun to watch and a great tribute to this game :)
This is one of the few MMO's ever that got me hooked. I've played it during it's official life like a mad man. Met some good people there some of which I keep in touch with to this day. My english improved dramatically during that time. If you want to learn a new language just get hooked on a MMO and switch to . Anyway, my chosen was decked out in full sovereign gear, 80+ rr (but not well past it because the later added 90/100 rr sets werent as cool looking as 80 gear was but I was slowly getting there)...my toon looked amazing. Artist who concepted armour designs was/is truly blessed by the old gods. Too bad it was handled the way it was. But it was loved enough for players to try and save it by themselves. As soon as it was announced officialy that the devs will pull the plug, community banded toegether and took certain steps to save the game. That action was probably the main (or one of) reason why you can still play this amazing game today. The best thing for me was that no matter what you chose to do in the game it progressed your character/gave it experience. You never want to touch any of the pve/questing/mob grinding? Well you can queue up for scenarios (battlegrounds in wow) or just walk to open pvp zone and kill some people to gain exp and items. You could progress your character through questing without ever grinding any mobs (there was plenty of quests to do that)and do some cool Public Quests. You could explore the vast world and see every nook and cranny of it. If you were a fan of Warhammer universe like I am you were just anxious to visit and see as much as possible. Contested Dwarven keeps and underground mines. Cities overrun by chaos cultists/armies. Karl Franz battling it out with Tcharzanek during the city siege. The amazing Inevitable City and Altdorf. Beastmen roaming the forests. Dark elves raiding the coasts of Ulthuan. Even the land of the Dead with it's sea of dunes was open. TL;DR this game is great even now and devs working on it are constantly updating, balancing and even adding new stuff and events. Warhammer Online has a passionate community that took great care and put much love and effort to keep it going. May it run forever.
So many good memories when this game launched. We had over 50 people in one ventrilo coordinating the biggest comeback Order ever did on the server. The game put statues of the best pvp players in town and I was able to get my statue up there as a warrior priest.
Man I still hate EA for fubaring the license agreement with this game. Still one of the best MMORPGs I've ever played but it coming out almost the same time as WoW Wotlk it hurt it pretty bad.
New players will want to keep their renown rank at least as high as their character level. This gives you extra stats you can spec into, and keeps you well geared until level 40. Game is great, give it a go.
not only is rvr fun but I love public quests too. Honestly if you like raiding the game isn't for you but if you like pvp and group content check it out. It's free what you gonna lose?
I played this when it started, it was awesome! It is to date the only game i ever enjoyed playing pvp! It was a sad day when they shut down the servers. Good to see it up again!
Same here. I hate pvp in most games and tend to just PVE. In this game, my guild found me killing some stuff out in a zone for a title or trait or something, recruited me, and we had a blast doing PVP because the game was just so well-balanced, skill and class-wise. You knew your matchups, and you knew when to fight or run most of the time. The humongous ZvZ battles were also awesome, mainly because I played tank and could actually stay alive somewhat
Just a heads up, me and a group of friends used to play on this server. If you face a GM group in Scenarios just let them win or you will be banned if you win vs them too much. As that happened to us. Also if you make a interesting build and its slightly good it will be instantly nerfed as the GMs dont want anything apart from their build to be meta. Also dont DARE to have a different opinion to a GM or you guessed it you will be banned. Also world pvp i killed a player that was actually higher than me, he got a friend who was an alt of a GM. I 2v1 them on my warrior priest And because people saw it and noticed it was a GM he got ashamed and then guessed it, they banned that account too. :D So if you're decent at MMOs id honestly avoid this private server. They dont want any skillful people to be on their server they want to be the best on the server. Dont get me wrong i really enjoyed the game itself and got every class to max and often did 6v6 alot!
Any proof? People who say this stuff are usually people that were banned for legit reasons and then post stuff like this to hurt the server. I've shit on GMs in RVR and scenarios multiple times and I've never been banned.
@@Confy__ Dont care if you believe me or not honestly. its just a heads up. And people who reply like you are normally the ones who suck up to them and try and cover it up... See two can play this game.
@@HighestRatedPlayer I’m the last person to suck up to GMs lol I just haven’t seen or heard what you’re talking about. I’ve done what you described in your post and so have many others and I haven’t been punished. I guess I was just lucky or maybe they’ve finally gotten rid of those GMs? When did you last play? Not tryna be hostile or anything I agree with you when it comes to shitty GMs but I haven’t seen anything too crazy. I think it’s clear that the devs/GMs prefer order and usually work on/buff those classes first but other than that I haven’t noticed much else.
My fondest PVP memories from any MMO (having been a longtime hardcore WoW player) are from Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning stomping around as a Chosen, twisting auras and dueling Warrior Priests.
It's interesting to see this game again and to see what the community have done with it. I held off on getting this game forever back in the day, because I already had 2 World of Warcraft accounts, didn't really want to be paying for 3 MMORPG accounts. Eventually, they announced they were dropping the monthly fee and going free to play, which happen to coincide with me find a copy for like... five bucks at JB HI-FI. I of course, picked it up, knowing they were going free to play and I loved every moment I got to actually spend in the game... unfortunately, that was not a lot of time as, roughly a month or two later, they announced that the servers were shutting down for good. Tempted to give this a go.
I still have the original box and cds from when I bought this game on release day. The time I spent in that game will always be some of the finest gaming memories I have. Easily the best pvp experience I've had in an MMO. The only downside is that it has ruined all other mmo pvp for me.
Loved the PvP/RvR back in the day when it was hopping. Unfortunately the private server's latency is pretty rough for me. I began to wonder whether the server was located in a cave in Kazakhstan a few times.
im from KZ. i can assure you there are no servers of any multiplayer game in existence present in this country. we still havent developed such technology
@@duck_thor3585 😄 Well.. if you did have them, the ping delay to the US would be comparable to the wait time for a signal from the moon. Much like my private server experience in WHO.
Server is located in France, so if you are from NA/Oceania you will have some latency. If not, check your internet, maybe you will fix it and enjoy your time with us.
This game has, by far, best designed open world PvP. Fight happen all the time, often big ones. Weekly Land of the Dead we are talking over 100 vs 100. But because PvP happens in PvP lakes, you don't have to worry about griefers. You will never be camped or prevented from doing your thing in PvE. All the good stuff with PvP focus but hardly any toxicity.
I really enjoyed this one, back in the day. The only annoying thing was that with the level gates, if one of your group was a level ahead (or even a partial level ahead), they could "level out" of the area's range. Having your tank become a chicken halfway through an encounter is hilarous in hindsight, but not exactly "fun" at the time, or helpful towards completing quests.
I remember the hype and excitement when original WO was released. Many players were roleplaying, especialy greenskins and dwarves. Orcs running around yelling WAAAGH! definitely were adding to the immersion). Back then every race had their own unique starting zone. And frankly, the most fun I had playing open world PVP was in starting zones. You could gear up a tank, get a unique helm from a lair boss that looks like a lvl40 helm (intimidation is a part of pvp too), pack armor and weapons with obviously unbalanced talismans, doubling your main stats. It turned you into a dugeon boss that could turn the tide of battle and it took like 20 players to take you down XD Though many things got lost in transion to community server as it was recreated focusing mainly on PVP aspects of the game. There were many secrets and lore unlocks. Now all is left is interactable objects that don't do anything. For example, each T1 lair had it's own mechanic to open. In Norsca you had to place a player of each race on corresponding stones. In Erkund a players with a dark aura had to die. Here is when suicidal mages came in handy).
Myself and some old MMO buddies recently got max level in Return of Reckoning and it's been a blast. Thanks for the great video showing off the game and giving the developers praise, views, and downloads.
This video made me download the game and jump back in. The visuals are a bit hard to overlook, but I was immediately reminded about the mechanics that allow the players to influence events in the game. It makes me wonder why this genre has not evolved beyond WoW clones. WoW never shut down, but Warhammer, with interesting innovations, came and went.
The cities were so amazing. The Inevitable city was so great. Im playing warhammer 3 now and always rename my chaos capital after that amazingly designed capital city.
I played this for hours on end with my guild back in the day. I was one of the highest Ironbreakers on the server, but the server was destruction dominated, numbers-wise. We used to have so much fun with a small group of people running around in flagged zones, taking objectives, getting chased by enemy groups twice our size and either wiping them out or playing cat and mouse due to being super coordinated over vent. Much fun was had
I got this video in recommended. I played Warhammer Online long time ago and it was fun. The pvp was fun and public events were fun. Its nice to see, that fans are keeping this game alive :)
I played a squid herder back in the original release... so I clicked on your video. First time viewing a MitchManix vid - wow! The production and comedy is well done.
Oh how I miss that good old mmo interface, where everything is exactly where it should be. I never played Warhammer Online, but somehow it was as if I've already been there. That kind of familiarity surely brings back some great memories, and I can't believe it's actually playable, free and untouched by corporate greed.
Just finding this channel today and uhhhhh I love you. 5:50 that kill with 65 hp left 🥵 Would love to see an Everquest p99 video, but that would probably be waaayyy too time consuming. Just leveling alone takes forever.
The pvp was really really nice in this game, RVR was really cool in his time and i keep good memories of this game. The choices of races/classes was nice too !
I played WAR for the first few months after it went live; this video is a fun trip back in time 15 years. "...vibrating around like a housewife's Tuesday alone-time" won a subscription from me.
Technically, it wasn't as PvP focused until they(=Mythic ; failed devs) added the Purple Bar(PvP XP). I am still and I am going to remain vehemently opposed to that. Prior to that, the game was fantastically open. All that was needed were some Sov nerfs and ... wow omg! I know that I am in the absolute minority here, but it bears mentioning. If you have a guild or find other ways to do it(including Grit and Willpower lol), you can just do what you want to do.
Its a absolutely brilliant game, was way ahead of its time in concept. Truly a gem from the past, and the private server is wonderful still. I was so so so sad when this game shut down, alongside WoW this was a part of my young gaming journey that I will never forget. Warhammer Fantasy is my favorite setting, and this game brought it to life back then. Just because of its age and low population, I'm sure those that try it won't stick around for long. However I think it is completely worth the experience anyway, it truly gives a unique MMORPG experience like no other!
Hey I just discovered your channel and you're bloody hilarious. I love all of your vids so far and they've managed to make me laugh more than anything else has recently.
I loved this game. And PVP was larger than life. I remember after I think AION coming out pulling a massive guild into it left our guild moving up in order of command on the field. Also what a great MMO that actually allowed you to look cool off the rip.
love that game. Me and my girl of now 12 years met in the chaos wastes on Carroburg for the very first time. I love that this game is still alive and kicking!
I played this game back when it was live so playing RoR was nostalgic for me. This really is a great game with its many bugs and flaws giving it character. It is truly fun to get involved in the RvR experience and you can pretty much get started right at the start. Nothing is stopping you from going to the pvp area at level 2 if you want. (Which is a fun way to level as a healer, just stand in back and spam heal as you level up :D) Hey, a tip. You are playing a "Bright Wizard" Their main mechanic is that their magic is tremendously powerful but as it builds up it deals more damage to your enemies but also deals damage to you! You have to "relieve the pressure" by using your ability to drop all your excess buildup in an instant attack. Once you do, you are back to 0% and will no longer harm yourself, but your damage ability also goes down again. It is a fun mechanic to master. Can you stay at max dealing maximum damage for one more spell? Or do you need to drop it now before you die? Can you get a healer to follow you around and heal you so you can stay at max pressure and deal sustained max damage. It gives you a lot of options. If you do not like that mechanic, the high elven archmage has a different one that does not damage you when you cast spells. It is by far my favorite class in the game as it heals and deals damage.
The original game died for 2 reasons. The first reason is endgame pvp was mostly a back and forth zerg. It felt like a large oldschool Alterac Valley battleground in World of Warcraft. Sure, it could be fun once in awhile. But to endlessly do it as endgame content became boring. The second reason the game died? The devs saw how popular WoW became and decided to add WoW PvE elements to the endgame. They started to neglect PvP. And soon enough, you were required to do PvE content because the PvE gear was becoming better than the PvP gear.
I could imagine a 40k MMO. Choose a faction. Spend levels one through ten being physically tortured, altered, and\or made to clean the cess pits on battle barges, etc. Or join the administratum and launder funds to upgrade your armor. The Space Marine trials alone would be highly entertaining It would be endless fun. Eve online with an ARPG core for those who wanna fight. And endless Xenos scum to scrape off my boots
This is great (I was there at launch, it just needed more PvE content mid to late game instead of focusing solely on PvP and I bet it would have stayed popular). This video makes me want to hop on and play some now. 😆👍
I played this game at launch, taking a break from WoW at the time, and boy it didn't disappoint. The RvR battles were absolutely epic, massive numbers, tank walls.... I only found something similar, but not quite like it, years later in GW2.
Goblin Shaman was my jam back in the day! WAAAAAAAHHH!!!! Doing damage increases your healing and vice versa. Incredibly fun and potent in open world pvp.
I never knew this game was considered bad because I played it for 2 weeks while on R&R during a 2 year deployment to Iraq. Had an absolute blast during those 2 weeks. By the time I came home I was so busy with getting out of the ARMY and going to college that I didn't even think about gaming for years, but I personally thought this game was a lot of fun. I remember making a Disciple of Khaine and feeling broken OP or like a raid boss. I could out damage entire groups of players while simultaneously healing myself and others around me. Feel like that class had to have gotten nerfed at some point, lol.
What a great video. I'm going back to RoR thanks to you, friend! Your voice is very relaxing and calming to listen to, as well. Definitely gonna rewatch tonight before sleep.
Really wanted to like original WAR more than I did. Just too many missteps early on, like letting classes have _ridiculous_ amounts of CC (my ironbreaker could cause something like 24 CC effects in the span of 20 seconds, assuming ~5 nearby targets), but instead of backing off on CC they added an immunity timer so now your CC abilities aren't even working at all the vast majority of the time, which felt awful. Then they had a few classes whose mechanics were genuinely interesting (Archmages bouncing between healing/damage) and instead of doubling down on making them even more interesting (actually making the values high enough to matter) they considered backing off and just having you spam one type of spell endlessly. Really felt like the designers didn't quite understand what they were making or perhaps simply bit off more than they could chew.
Playing Warhammer 2 Total War, I feel like I'm dropped right into the Warhammer Online game, just in a different way. The terrain and landscapes for Warhammer 2 are amazing and I feel like they landscapes and artwork are pulled directly out of Warhammer Online. As far as Return of Reckoning, it's heroic what the fans, player Devs that is, did to revive this great game. I played Age of Reckoning with religious fervor at release and have played RoR on and off over the years. I can only dream for a 40k version as well as an AOR 2 with up to date graphics as well as a 3rd faction for Realm v Realm.
I was one of the original devs on this game, and its awesome to see it revived and thriving,
You created a gem TBH. Played back in 2008 and loved it, and now i'm starting on RoR and having a blast
@@TromaFR thanks,i still have my dev jacket in the closset lol, i think it would have just taken a little better management to keep this game alive for the long term
Thank you for the hundreds and hundreds of hours of fun my friends and I had with the game. It truly is my favorite mmo, and I wish a new one would come around one day.
i was just a lowly environment artist, tho i will say probably my proudest achievement was heading up the level design for nordenwatch scenario,@@DMoss84
I still love this game today. You all did incredible and I loved it back in the day too.
Do you have a favourite memory from working on it? Maybe a fun thing you saw as a team?
My mother loved this game so much and even got to know the devs so well that when she passed away they even had a large funeral ceremony for her and a gravestone with her main characters name is now in the graveyard.
My condolences!
@@JDoeX thanks dude
By chance was this the Pink For Tink thing for cancer?
I think I may have known and been in a guild with your mother. I still think about her often and miss her a lot, she meant a lot to a bunch of us!
Condolences dude, that was also extremely wholesome on their part. This was my favorite game at the time. I QUIT WoW for this game, I played a Marauder on Chaos and Bright Wizard on Order. I had the one of the best MMORPG experiences with this game.
This game is so massively underrated. The PVP is so much fun
its not underrated...its dead
@@Turican76 wow u r so insightful. U really showed him.
I think he is aware of this. He obviously ment it WAS underrated.
PvP was horrible
The best open world pvp was vanilla rift
true , next to l2 it have best world pvp i ever see . Only one game i enjoy playing healer in combat
When private sever for closed game is more popular than 95% of MMOs on the market.
And unironically better maintained than wow classic, lul.
@@GamingDualities it's literally impossible to balance servers in classic, it's players own "fault"
@@GamingDualities great idea if you want people to not even bother playing your game when they can't join their friends
And kill servers that are not perfectly balanced already (which means kill most of them)
You don't realise what are the consequences of such block
@@GamingDualities what?
The damaging being done to you is because your heat build up is at 100. It's your class's special mechanic. As you cast spells, it builds up heat. The more heat, the more damage your spells do, but the greater chance of the spells triggering backlash (dealing damage to you). You should have at least one ability that will drain your heat. I play a Dark Elf Sorcerer and while our class special mechanics are differently named, they're essentially the same mechanic because they work the same way.
In fact, every class in the game has a class on the opposite faction that it's basically a twin of. High Elf Archmages and Goblin Shamans both have to balance out damage and healing spells. Chaos Chosen and Human Knights of the Blazing Sun both have auras. Dwarf Engineers and Chaos Magus can both use turrets (actual turrets for the engineer, stationary daemons for the magus). And so on and so fourth.
The game is largely a PVP focus MMO first. So a lot of the PvE stuff isn't really worked on as much as as the PVP stuff.
You'll most likely never see a Cash Shop in Return of Reckoning, even way into the future, since the only reason they're able to remain open instead of being sued into oblivion by EA/BioWare is because the game itself is completely free. You can donate to them, but there's now buying anything since they technically can't make money off the game. They're dedicated fans doing this because they want to, not because they're seeking to make money. And it really shows.
Vermintide Fans know this mechanic well lol
XD perfect explinaiton but you missed something, It also increases your crit chance. BR is a risk reward caster. Fun as hell if you can manage the cyclical pattern of its rotation and buffs
@@arytisskaldaka7963 That's kinda what I meant by increasing damage.
@@gameprose4293 have they addressed some of the innitial imbalances as the firemages instant pbae vs the casted one of the sorcerer?
I loved that mechanic. Haven't played the game since the official servers were up. But damn did I love doing pvp as Sorcerer. The mechanic made it really fun, since you were very much a glass cannon. Doing big damage, but easily dying if you weren't careful.
With the success of games like Vermintide 1 + 2 and Total War: Warhammer 1-3, I feel like the world is ready for Warhammer Online 2.
Not if it's as tepid and neutered as The Old World is
@@TaRAAASHBAGS Correct me if I'm wrong but Amazon isn't working on that right? 😰
@@TheRealClaylex not Amazon but both Black Rock and Embracer Group have a huge chunk of ownership in GW stock
@@TaRAAASHBAGS Ahhhh gotcha
I can't afford this in my life these days, I have like a real job and a family and would likely lose at least one of those haha
As a lifelong fan of all things Warhammer (I am 50) this game was an absolute joy when it came out and kept me entertained for years. The PvP on this game is probably the most fun I have ever had playing with other people. This game recreated the Warhammer I knew and loved in such an accurate and downright loving way that I will never forget the fun I had playing it. Wonderful video sir, bravo!
Come back and play with us !
While this game isn’t perfect, it’s honestly one of the best online experiences I’ve had. Leading warbands and fighting enemy warbands is the best feeling in the world, especially when you can celebrate victories with the people around you!
Yes. I especially loved the low level ones. Once on the Blighted isles, I've managed to pull off an amazing victory, gathering a disparate company when our side was losing significantly and the area was basically left to the enemy to occupy. Now I'm like 98% solo player and definitely not a leading type so it's pretty impressive for that. My sheer spite and my companions' stubborness led us through long enough for others who already gave up on this battlefield and went elsewere to come in and see us victorious in the end. And when we celebrated victory, it felt magnificent. That's what the playing MMOs should be about. You kill the mobs and finish quests but that's rarely something special. But to feel like a TRUE hero of the story... now that's something else. And that's why I remember it still.
From purely technical standpoint, I adored double target system. Made playing a healer uniquely more enjoyable experience :)
This and Secret World are the only two mmos I know of that had the dual target system and it boggles me to this day that it didn't become standard. It made combat, PvP and PvE, so much more dynamic. Sure, everyone ripped off the open world events, and made them shitty wave fights, but no one steals the best UI choice in MMOs?
Double target was also extremely important for certain mechanics. There were healer spells that would drain your offensive target and heal your secondary target.
I come back to this game every few years and never ever regret my time. It's always great and for a PvP game incredibly low toxicity.
At least there, no ome goes Chris Chan.
I remember playing it for an hour or two back in 09' or so but it really does look exactly like wow. I mean like a carbon copy
most of the devs are ass hats thats why it has low toxicity because they will literally ban you for anything they dont like (i killed a friend of a dev about 5x in ORVR solo and was banned for 7days because of it)
@@Zabuchi25
You strike me as the dude from the "I typed GG in chat 5 times and got banned" meme, you know while holding their hand over the rest lmao
@@InvadeNormandy you either dont play the game or dont keep up with what happens in the game either way it only took 20min to be called a racist
You really hit the nail on the head with the thought that this is the last bastion of what the genre once was. Most MMOs these days focus way too hard on monetization rather than creating an enjoyable experience.
The IP is still owned by EA as well as all the art assets and design itself. Any attempt to monetize the game would get the dev team lined up and executed by EAs law team.
Well the playerbase has changed a lot ... wow classic was great experiment, it turned into minmaxing shitfest in few weeks and unless you had braindead retail mentality there was pretty much nothing for you ... and that was vanilla, now with wotlk, the pvp is basically dead since it requires effort and the only other thing people do is log in for raid and then go off ..
How do you create a fun game for people who dont want to have fun ...
@@CaptainSkylocke I like FFXIV. But the mogstation exists. It's one of the least egregious examples of monetization I can think of, but it's still egregious monetization.
@karsheoberon1936 ? There's absolutely nothing entitled about wanting cash shops to go away. They're blatant cash grabs that detract development resources from items that could be in game rewards or drops rather than whalebait. FFXIV is great, it's one of my favorite games, but the rabid blind defense of it without any care or regard to it's flaws, endemic to the industry they may be, is hilariously childish.
@karsheoberon1936 I mean, I don't think you do, considering I'm not the one throwing a hissy fit, and replying to TH-cam comments almost instantly. You might wanna look in a mirror and turn off that projection. It's ok, people are allowed to make critiques of your favorite game, you don't have to scream like a child in its defense softboi.
I probably shouldn't have, but I laughed when you hugged the chest in the PQ early on. Oh the early days! I'm glad you enjoyed your time with us Mitch and look forward to seeing Mr Cheeto on the battlefield in the future!
Hi, is there any possibility of a server with rank100 best in slot geared presets? I had a rank 100 magus, but i don't have the time and motivation to farm all these ranks and gear again.
Gotta ask, any chance of adding Skaven? I know thats asking for a whole ass class.
So much more to the game…guilds, communities, keeps & forts, city and land of the dead, live events, and can’t forget fashion-hammer plus much much more. Been playing for years, and still having a blast. Thanks for sharing and see you in the lakes!
Have to say I am amazed by the speed with which you are producing these videos, without compromising the incredibly high standard of your work. The amount of time you spend researching and playing through is evident, and your editing, scripting and cinematography are all of such a high standard. Add to that your comedy value, and your obvious attention to detail, I defy anyone not to be incredibly impressed. You deserve way more subs, and if anyone deserves their channel to blow up based on talent it is you!
What makes the fan server so interesting, is that the guy running it refuses to take donations.. but there is a reason for it.
The game was released by EA, and as long as he doesn't receive any money for it, they don't care.
But if he receives just a single cent, then they might start to care and go after him.
Played this game since 2008 and am still enjoying it due to the massive open battles, and synergy that can be made with specifically designed warband compositions. Yes the game has it flaws and the commentary is about right. The people playing make the game great by adapting and changing methods for winning in different terrains and features like wide open field to choke point and sieges. Remember this is a team game that can be played solo - so the highest levels of victory will come from joining a guild and playing in organised groups, but fun can be had in solo/duo situations.
Thanks for making this vid!
same here. i stopped playing because of the awful performance issues it suffered from launched. the game needed another year in development. looks tempting to try it again, but still seems to be a fair share of kooky bugs.
I remember having the time of my life as a Chaos Zealot. Healing always felt so rewarding since the combat is so brutal. And the fact that, given the right load out, you could out-damage some DPS casters? A truly beautiful experience.
The taunt system in pvp, along with character collision is great
This MMO was so underrated on launch. The pvp to this day is still the best pvp MMO experience Ive ever had (unless you count foxhole which I'm addicted to
Dark ages of Camelot had the same combat, they had the same developers
@@lordhelwintr283 Never played Dark ages of camelot
@@lordhelwintr283 the difference was that DAoC had trirealm, which made it work so well. If it's unbalanced in WAR or any other, you're shafted.
I worked the original release of this title at GOA games. It was fantastic fun but they just tried to do too much in too little time. There were faction capitals designed for each race, and each was to have invasion mechanics, it just wasn't feasible in the time frame available. At launch the final city sieges still weren't working properly (I remember the looks of "Oh crap" when we ran the final internal test before launch and couldn't get a single full raid in to the instance), but the game just had to ship. The first players were knocking on the doors of Altdorf within the month, and it was still not working reliably. Without the end game content to give real emphasis to the RVR system, things started to fade. I was on a boat less than a year later going home with my redundancy in hand as GOA shut doors for the final time. A damn shame.
Thanks for the insight of the development mate. Props for going for something big like that even if it didn't work out. Who dares wins :)
Over a decade later and Warhammer is still the best PvP around.
I absolutely loved that game. The best PvP ever. I was really sorry when it closed down.
You were sorry? Did you close the servers? How dare you.
I loved it... But I also remember it literally melted my GPU at the time.
I remember it looking a LOT better in the day though lol.
You can play on the Return of Reckoning servers.
You should give Return of Reckoning a try, there's a ton to do especially if you like to PVP
Umm… the game is back.
It's cool to hear there are people out there willing to put that much effort into making the game what it is today. I swear your the only one that opens up my eyes to games that I could and probably should be experiencing.
And that was a close call when you ran into the Colonel! 😂
It's a great wee server for anyone who likes classic MMOs and PvP, but they can't monetise it at all so they can't really market the server, so youtubers like mitch/peon are the only reason anyone finds it really. Would def recommend it but fair warning, it will steal years of your life 🤣
@@MiniSynnYT 😆 I would be ok with that the game looks fun and the community is passionate about what they are doing
@@KaisersGB The community is the best part of the server tbh, I've a few videos on my channel of how goofy the game/community can be if you're bored while it's downloading and want to see what you're getting into😎
@@MiniSynnYT Bold of you to assume its only a few years of your life.😀
Big thanks for the Return of Reckoning team for keeping this awesome game alive and better!
RoR rocks. My Godfather was on the art team that created Age of Reckoning and I still have the boxed copy that he gave me.
I have so many great memories from WAR and I've loved playing RoR for a number of years now. Great game.
the peasant running from the giant is actually a reference to a model from the tabletop game, a peasant in essentially that pose came with the plastic giant to have on his base haha
Great video as always. I especially loved the comments on the community aspects. My first MMO was Dark Age of Camelot and we had such a great community back in the day. You really got to know people. It's just not like that anymore.
I'm an old school EQ player, hell I still play off and on over the years. I feel you man, I always wanted to play DAoC at the time too, but was hooked on EverCrack. WoW changed everything, and not all for the better.
Try the EDEN FREESHARD.
Classic DAOC. Free download and no monthly fee's.
2:32 Thats actually so refreshing to see after the constant spamming from Star Trek and Neverwinter
Oh man I still have my special edition box from 2008 with the art book and figurine etc, I was super hyped + into this game when new, and didn't know about this until I saw this video! I am downloading it now - thank you!!!
I just discovered that this game was available again just last week! I loved it back when it was launched.
This tattoo in my profile pic was inspired from a shield I had in that game back in the day.
Man, the 2020’s truly is the Renaissance of Warhammer Fantasy!
That was truly a well crafted video. And, thanks for the support.
While the game certainly is PVP focussed, I really liked the Almanach. Exploration and farming and lore and actual useable rewards, all in one. Good stuff, and hard to find elsewhere.
The PvE is insanely underrated. There's quite a bit of it and the lore is quite detailed.
@@hal900xthey needed some tweaks towards NPC enemies though. Make them more challenging and thoughtful by adding some additional unique skills or resistances. That would work greatly for Heroes and Champions to make them feel more rewarding and not just more HP hard hitting things. (I know that NPCs in endgame and dungeons already work like this but c’mon. Why not make not quest ones do the same from the start? Maybe add some more rare loot to them depending of how they scale towards you. For example if it’s Dangerous = more rare loot, if it’s trivial = common junk so you don’t farm them. This would make PvE so replayable.)
03:40 I'm glad to see that I am not the only MMO player who tries to /hug fellow helpful players with mixed results...
Items are race and class locked to not compromise the integrity of each factions aesthetic. Lorewise you would never, ever see a dwarf using a dark elf weapon or a human wearing chaos armor. Every class looks the way they should. Most, if not all of them, are based on their table top model counterparts.
yeah they just don't do faction only armor anymore, like back in the day with WoW pvp alliance had thier pvp armor and horde had theirs and that was something to honour and fight for, now every race can be any class any faction can wear any armor etc. Faction VS Faction MMOs is what brought people together, to share thier passion or detest for or against another faction, Warhammer IP is special though because we are seeing our models come to life in an MMO! I am going back to be a knight of the blazing sun! I remember reading a book called the Knights of Erant about bretonnia dealing with greenskins and man just reading a warhammer book just pumpt me up to run and play the warhammer mmo then it was gone...I am glad to hear it has come back I have been searching for world pvp for over a year now, something that is always there always reliable and always fun without feeling behind or left our or behind the upates etc , like Mitch said This game was the cloest to why we loved the genre!
I have been trying this, haven't got very far yet, so it's exciting to see you review this game! As always, you bring the comedy as well as excellent observation to your videos, and they're a delight to watch 😁
The gameplay itself is very fun, and 1-39 during new player surges is incredible. Lots of small skirmish action, some big blobs, and lots of coordinated and experienced groups. The feeling of character progression is great and every class now has its place in RVR.
Endgame is a bit of a different vibe and anyone that's done city sieges and played with gravord/zunig or haojin will know what I mean.
I felt like I was playing the game for the first time again :') humorous video and extremely thorough. Definitely earned my sub.
"I can't take you seriously with a name like that, so ONWARD SIR CHEETO!" Love your vids :)
Glad too see Mythic's two most popular PVP MMO'S still around. Dark Age of Camelot is my preferred choice. Three Realm PVP is just too awsome.
For us older players its nostalgic fun. Not having to maintain an expensive PC build is even better.
Give Dark Age of Camelot "Eden FreeShard" a look over. No buff bot accounts and no Trials of Atlantis time sinks.
DAOC is still the "KING"!
On my way back (EDEN FREESHARD).
Miss this 3 Realm PVP!
Ahh just sat down for lunch break and this video was posted. Some things just line up.
wowza 8:56 seeing the Scenario score screen really hit me HARD in the nostalgia
WAR is one of my 3 favourite mmos of all time and I was really sad when it was shut down. Then some time after the code went open source, the RoR team took it and started re-created a server from scratch, bit by bit. When I started playing on it, not even Tier 3 was released yet and still the pleasure of roaming the world and doing scenarios and open RvR again was thrilling. Now the team has pretty much rebuilt the whole game and is now creating new content for it regularly, which is amazing. Thanks for your video which is really fun to watch and a great tribute to this game :)
This is one of the few MMO's ever that got me hooked. I've played it during it's official life like a mad man. Met some good people there some of which I keep in touch with to this day. My english improved dramatically during that time. If you want to learn a new language just get hooked on a MMO and switch to . Anyway, my chosen was decked out in full sovereign gear, 80+ rr (but not well past it because the later added 90/100 rr sets werent as cool looking as 80 gear was but I was slowly getting there)...my toon looked amazing. Artist who concepted armour designs was/is truly blessed by the old gods. Too bad it was handled the way it was. But it was loved enough for players to try and save it by themselves. As soon as it was announced officialy that the devs will pull the plug, community banded toegether and took certain steps to save the game. That action was probably the main (or one of) reason why you can still play this amazing game today. The best thing for me was that no matter what you chose to do in the game it progressed your character/gave it experience. You never want to touch any of the pve/questing/mob grinding? Well you can queue up for scenarios (battlegrounds in wow) or just walk to open pvp zone and kill some people to gain exp and items. You could progress your character through questing without ever grinding any mobs (there was plenty of quests to do that)and do some cool Public Quests. You could explore the vast world and see every nook and cranny of it. If you were a fan of Warhammer universe like I am you were just anxious to visit and see as much as possible. Contested Dwarven keeps and underground mines. Cities overrun by chaos cultists/armies. Karl Franz battling it out with Tcharzanek during the city siege. The amazing Inevitable City and Altdorf. Beastmen roaming the forests. Dark elves raiding the coasts of Ulthuan. Even the land of the Dead with it's sea of dunes was open.
TL;DR this game is great even now and devs working on it are constantly updating, balancing and even adding new stuff and events. Warhammer Online has a passionate community that took great care and put much love and effort to keep it going. May it run forever.
8:00 Other way around, actually! You went into the T1 zone after you'd leveled beyond it.
So many good memories when this game launched. We had over 50 people in one ventrilo coordinating the biggest comeback Order ever did on the server. The game put statues of the best pvp players in town and I was able to get my statue up there as a warrior priest.
Oooooh! You covered this! Fantastic. Eager to see your thoughts. I loved the original game so much.
Man I still hate EA for fubaring the license agreement with this game. Still one of the best MMORPGs I've ever played but it coming out almost the same time as WoW Wotlk it hurt it pretty bad.
Yes! This, City of Heroes (which has a community server) and Matrix Online.
New players will want to keep their renown rank at least as high as their character level. This gives you extra stats you can spec into, and keeps you well geared until level 40. Game is great, give it a go.
not only is rvr fun but I love public quests too. Honestly if you like raiding the game isn't for you but if you like pvp and group content check it out. It's free what you gonna lose?
I played this when it started, it was awesome! It is to date the only game i ever enjoyed playing pvp! It was a sad day when they shut down the servers. Good to see it up again!
Same here. I hate pvp in most games and tend to just PVE. In this game, my guild found me killing some stuff out in a zone for a title or trait or something, recruited me, and we had a blast doing PVP because the game was just so well-balanced, skill and class-wise. You knew your matchups, and you knew when to fight or run most of the time. The humongous ZvZ battles were also awesome, mainly because I played tank and could actually stay alive somewhat
Just a heads up, me and a group of friends used to play on this server. If you face a GM group in Scenarios just let them win or you will be banned if you win vs them too much. As that happened to us. Also if you make a interesting build and its slightly good it will be instantly nerfed as the GMs dont want anything apart from their build to be meta. Also dont DARE to have a different opinion to a GM or you guessed it you will be banned. Also world pvp i killed a player that was actually higher than me, he got a friend who was an alt of a GM. I 2v1 them on my warrior priest And because people saw it and noticed it was a GM he got ashamed and then guessed it, they banned that account too. :D
So if you're decent at MMOs id honestly avoid this private server. They dont want any skillful people to be on their server they want to be the best on the server.
Dont get me wrong i really enjoyed the game itself and got every class to max and often did 6v6 alot!
Can confirm GMs on there ruin the server.
Banned as well XD
Any proof? People who say this stuff are usually people that were banned for legit reasons and then post stuff like this to hurt the server. I've shit on GMs in RVR and scenarios multiple times and I've never been banned.
@@Confy__ Dont care if you believe me or not honestly. its just a heads up. And people who reply like you are normally the ones who suck up to them and try and cover it up... See two can play this game.
@@HighestRatedPlayer I’m the last person to suck up to GMs lol I just haven’t seen or heard what you’re talking about. I’ve done what you described in your post and so have many others and I haven’t been punished. I guess I was just lucky or maybe they’ve finally gotten rid of those GMs? When did you last play? Not tryna be hostile or anything I agree with you when it comes to shitty GMs but I haven’t seen anything too crazy. I think it’s clear that the devs/GMs prefer order and usually work on/buff those classes first but other than that I haven’t noticed much else.
My fondest PVP memories from any MMO (having been a longtime hardcore WoW player) are from Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning stomping around as a Chosen, twisting auras and dueling Warrior Priests.
Was hoping you would cover this game! Loved the video, cheers Mitch!
Mitch as always your content has made my day. Thank you very much mate!
It's interesting to see this game again and to see what the community have done with it. I held off on getting this game forever back in the day, because I already had 2 World of Warcraft accounts, didn't really want to be paying for 3 MMORPG accounts. Eventually, they announced they were dropping the monthly fee and going free to play, which happen to coincide with me find a copy for like... five bucks at JB HI-FI.
I of course, picked it up, knowing they were going free to play and I loved every moment I got to actually spend in the game... unfortunately, that was not a lot of time as, roughly a month or two later, they announced that the servers were shutting down for good.
Tempted to give this a go.
I still have the original box and cds from when I bought this game on release day. The time I spent in that game will always be some of the finest gaming memories I have. Easily the best pvp experience I've had in an MMO. The only downside is that it has ruined all other mmo pvp for me.
I feel the same. I was heavily invested in WaR and it broke my heart when it was closed down.
Loved the PvP/RvR back in the day when it was hopping. Unfortunately the private server's latency is pretty rough for me. I began to wonder whether the server was located in a cave in Kazakhstan a few times.
im from KZ. i can assure you there are no servers of any multiplayer game in existence present in this country. we still havent developed such technology
@@duck_thor3585 😄 Well.. if you did have them, the ping delay to the US would be comparable to the wait time for a signal from the moon. Much like my private server experience in WHO.
Server is located in France, so if you are from NA/Oceania you will have some latency. If not, check your internet, maybe you will fix it and enjoy your time with us.
@@redviking2086 - Good to know. Thank you!
This game has, by far, best designed open world PvP. Fight happen all the time, often big ones. Weekly Land of the Dead we are talking over 100 vs 100. But because PvP happens in PvP lakes, you don't have to worry about griefers. You will never be camped or prevented from doing your thing in PvE. All the good stuff with PvP focus but hardly any toxicity.
I really enjoyed this one, back in the day. The only annoying thing was that with the level gates, if one of your group was a level ahead (or even a partial level ahead), they could "level out" of the area's range. Having your tank become a chicken halfway through an encounter is hilarous in hindsight, but not exactly "fun" at the time, or helpful towards completing quests.
I remember the hype and excitement when original WO was released. Many players were roleplaying, especialy greenskins and dwarves. Orcs running around yelling WAAAGH! definitely were adding to the immersion). Back then every race had their own unique starting zone. And frankly, the most fun I had playing open world PVP was in starting zones. You could gear up a tank, get a unique helm from a lair boss that looks like a lvl40 helm (intimidation is a part of pvp too), pack armor and weapons with obviously unbalanced talismans, doubling your main stats. It turned you into a dugeon boss that could turn the tide of battle and it took like 20 players to take you down XD
Though many things got lost in transion to community server as it was recreated focusing mainly on PVP aspects of the game. There were many secrets and lore unlocks. Now all is left is interactable objects that don't do anything. For example, each T1 lair had it's own mechanic to open. In Norsca you had to place a player of each race on corresponding stones. In Erkund a players with a dark aura had to die. Here is when suicidal mages came in handy).
Myself and some old MMO buddies recently got max level in Return of Reckoning and it's been a blast. Thanks for the great video showing off the game and giving the developers praise, views, and downloads.
This video made me download the game and jump back in. The visuals are a bit hard to overlook, but I was immediately reminded about the mechanics that allow the players to influence events in the game. It makes me wonder why this genre has not evolved beyond WoW clones. WoW never shut down, but Warhammer, with interesting innovations, came and went.
The cities were so amazing. The Inevitable city was so great. Im playing warhammer 3 now and always rename my chaos capital after that amazingly designed capital city.
I played this for hours on end with my guild back in the day. I was one of the highest Ironbreakers on the server, but the server was destruction dominated, numbers-wise. We used to have so much fun with a small group of people running around in flagged zones, taking objectives, getting chased by enemy groups twice our size and either wiping them out or playing cat and mouse due to being super coordinated over vent. Much fun was had
I got this video in recommended. I played Warhammer Online long time ago and it was fun. The pvp was fun and public events were fun. Its nice to see, that fans are keeping this game alive :)
Sad to see this game is so PvP focused. Would try it out, but I absolutely abhor PvP.
I played a squid herder back in the original release... so I clicked on your video. First time viewing a MitchManix vid - wow! The production and comedy is well done.
Oh how I miss that good old mmo interface, where everything is exactly where it should be. I never played Warhammer Online, but somehow it was as if I've already been there.
That kind of familiarity surely brings back some great memories, and I can't believe it's actually playable, free and untouched by corporate greed.
Just finding this channel today and uhhhhh I love you. 5:50 that kill with 65 hp left 🥵
Would love to see an Everquest p99 video, but that would probably be waaayyy too time consuming. Just leveling alone takes forever.
Loved this game back in the day! Absolute best guild experience I've had in an MMO. First game where I was a raid leader. So many great memories 😃
6:00 If you speak French, the chicken lieutenant named Connard is a good chuckle
The pvp was really really nice in this game, RVR was really cool in his time and i keep good memories of this game. The choices of races/classes was nice too !
I played WAR for the first few months after it went live; this video is a fun trip back in time 15 years. "...vibrating around like a housewife's Tuesday alone-time" won a subscription from me.
While a pvp focused game is not for me. What they managed to do with Warhammer Online is incredible. I do remember trying it a long, long time ago.
Technically, it wasn't as PvP focused until they(=Mythic ; failed devs) added the Purple Bar(PvP XP). I am still and I am going to remain vehemently opposed to that. Prior to that, the game was fantastically open. All that was needed were some Sov nerfs and ... wow omg!
I know that I am in the absolute minority here, but it bears mentioning. If you have a guild or find other ways to do it(including Grit and Willpower lol), you can just do what you want to do.
Childhood memory unlocked. I totally forgot I played this masterpiece.
Its a absolutely brilliant game, was way ahead of its time in concept. Truly a gem from the past, and the private server is wonderful still. I was so so so sad when this game shut down, alongside WoW this was a part of my young gaming journey that I will never forget. Warhammer Fantasy is my favorite setting, and this game brought it to life back then.
Just because of its age and low population, I'm sure those that try it won't stick around for long. However I think it is completely worth the experience anyway, it truly gives a unique MMORPG experience like no other!
Thank you for this video. Have been a Warhammer Online fan for 15 years and still love the game
Great to see new content on this game. One of my all time favourites, and always a pleasure to be able to pick up exactly where I left off.
Hey I just discovered your channel and you're bloody hilarious. I love all of your vids so far and they've managed to make me laugh more than anything else has recently.
Cheers mate :)
I loved this game. And PVP was larger than life. I remember after I think AION coming out pulling a massive guild into it left our guild moving up in order of command on the field. Also what a great MMO that actually allowed you to look cool off the rip.
PVP was just so fun. and it was integrated at every level boundry which was awesome.
love that game. Me and my girl of now 12 years met in the chaos wastes on Carroburg for the very first time. I love that this game is still alive and kicking!
That’s so cool 🥳 congrats!
@@MitchManix cheers mate, keep up the good work :)
I played this game back when it was live so playing RoR was nostalgic for me. This really is a great game with its many bugs and flaws giving it character. It is truly fun to get involved in the RvR experience and you can pretty much get started right at the start. Nothing is stopping you from going to the pvp area at level 2 if you want. (Which is a fun way to level as a healer, just stand in back and spam heal as you level up :D)
Hey, a tip. You are playing a "Bright Wizard" Their main mechanic is that their magic is tremendously powerful but as it builds up it deals more damage to your enemies but also deals damage to you! You have to "relieve the pressure" by using your ability to drop all your excess buildup in an instant attack. Once you do, you are back to 0% and will no longer harm yourself, but your damage ability also goes down again. It is a fun mechanic to master. Can you stay at max dealing maximum damage for one more spell? Or do you need to drop it now before you die? Can you get a healer to follow you around and heal you so you can stay at max pressure and deal sustained max damage. It gives you a lot of options.
If you do not like that mechanic, the high elven archmage has a different one that does not damage you when you cast spells. It is by far my favorite class in the game as it heals and deals damage.
The original game died for 2 reasons. The first reason is endgame pvp was mostly a back and forth zerg. It felt like a large oldschool Alterac Valley battleground in World of Warcraft. Sure, it could be fun once in awhile. But to endlessly do it as endgame content became boring. The second reason the game died? The devs saw how popular WoW became and decided to add WoW PvE elements to the endgame. They started to neglect PvP. And soon enough, you were required to do PvE content because the PvE gear was becoming better than the PvP gear.
It was my first MMO and loved it! I still play it from time to time!
I could imagine a 40k MMO. Choose a faction. Spend levels one through ten being physically tortured, altered, and\or made to clean the cess pits on battle barges, etc.
Or join the administratum and launder funds to upgrade your armor.
The Space Marine trials alone would be highly entertaining
It would be endless fun. Eve online with an ARPG core for those who wanna fight. And endless Xenos scum to scrape off my boots
I really loved this game when it came out. I chose... A chosen tank. As dfed nothing but damage reduction gems and was nigh unstoppable lol.
Detaunting! Teaching the valuable lesson that subjecting people to passive smoking makes them like you!
This is great (I was there at launch, it just needed more PvE content mid to late game instead of focusing solely on PvP and I bet it would have stayed popular).
This video makes me want to hop on and play some now. 😆👍
I played this game at launch, taking a break from WoW at the time, and boy it didn't disappoint. The RvR battles were absolutely epic, massive numbers, tank walls.... I only found something similar, but not quite like it, years later in GW2.
Goblin Shaman was my jam back in the day! WAAAAAAAHHH!!!! Doing damage increases your healing and vice versa. Incredibly fun and potent in open world pvp.
I never knew this game was considered bad because I played it for 2 weeks while on R&R during a 2 year deployment to Iraq. Had an absolute blast during those 2 weeks. By the time I came home I was so busy with getting out of the ARMY and going to college that I didn't even think about gaming for years, but I personally thought this game was a lot of fun. I remember making a Disciple of Khaine and feeling broken OP or like a raid boss. I could out damage entire groups of players while simultaneously healing myself and others around me. Feel like that class had to have gotten nerfed at some point, lol.
It wasn't that it was bad, but people expected endgame as large as WoW that had been out for 4 years...
Oh my god i missed this game! i played a chaos magus/sorcerer and the greenskins xD
What a great video. I'm going back to RoR thanks to you, friend! Your voice is very relaxing and calming to listen to, as well. Definitely gonna rewatch tonight before sleep.
Really wanted to like original WAR more than I did. Just too many missteps early on, like letting classes have _ridiculous_ amounts of CC (my ironbreaker could cause something like 24 CC effects in the span of 20 seconds, assuming ~5 nearby targets), but instead of backing off on CC they added an immunity timer so now your CC abilities aren't even working at all the vast majority of the time, which felt awful. Then they had a few classes whose mechanics were genuinely interesting (Archmages bouncing between healing/damage) and instead of doubling down on making them even more interesting (actually making the values high enough to matter) they considered backing off and just having you spam one type of spell endlessly. Really felt like the designers didn't quite understand what they were making or perhaps simply bit off more than they could chew.
installing now! Used to play this for a year when it first came out. Was truly a great game!
Playing Warhammer 2 Total War, I feel like I'm dropped right into the Warhammer Online game, just in a different way. The terrain and landscapes for Warhammer 2 are amazing and I feel like they landscapes and artwork are pulled directly out of Warhammer Online. As far as Return of Reckoning, it's heroic what the fans, player Devs that is, did to revive this great game. I played Age of Reckoning with religious fervor at release and have played RoR on and off over the years. I can only dream for a 40k version as well as an AOR 2 with up to date graphics as well as a 3rd faction for Realm v Realm.
PvP as a bright wizard was so much fun, black ork tank was fun as well. I miss this game