Wow. I really need your help. I may need to fly to Arizona this summer . I have both Phonak and an Oticon hearing aids. I prefer the Oticon but I own both and they are top of the line. I purchase them in 2021 . I first purchased the Phonaks but couldn’t get them to work properly with my hearing loss. I have a lot of hearing issues. If you can’t help then nobody can.
If anyone reading this has a Samsung phone AND can only hear in 1 ear... (ie you have a bicross possibly) set your phone to Mono. Lots of audio you are streaming is split into stereo. If you only hear in 1 ear, you're only streaming half the music or audio. Go to Settings> Accesibility > Hearing Enhancements > Then turn on "Mono Audio" for connected audio. Not promising anything but it helped me quite a bit.
I stream music with bluetooth with Phonak Paradise P90 and at the same time put on my wired headsets. Great results. My hearing loss is almost idential to the graph you showed, except about 10 db less of high range
I wonder if I stream music with Phonak P90 and wear my earbuds(not connected to bluetooth on my phone) would that create a closed vent? Going to try it.
Are these receivers appropriate for severe to profound loss. Trying to get the Life but out of stock. Ultra power receivers are too, and Phonak said it could remain so until Nobember. Supply chain issues.
Great video Cliff as usual. Thank you. I have recently bought the Costco Kirkland Signature 10 (Phonak Paradise in disguise). The streaming sound is terrible. Any idea if the active vent can be retro fitted to these and if so by whom? Thanks for all your advice.
Dr. Cliff, given the trade-offs between different vents, domes or earmolds which you describe, if one purchases Kirkland Signature 10.0 HAs and therefore ActiVents are not an option even though the HAs are essentially Phonak Paradise equivalents, which of the following alternatives do you think would give the best result for someone with mild low-frequency hearing loss and moderate to severe high-frequency hearing loss, particularly when streaming music or tv, in addition to normal day to day conversational situations: 1) open dome or open vent but wearing noise blocking earmuffs/safety headset when listening to music (to minimize escape of low frequencies) 2) open dome or open vent but removing HAs and using Apple iPod Pros (perhaps adapted with the Apple software for specific hearing loss) when listening to music 3) other suggestion you may have? Thanks for your very informative and helpful videos.
Me watching this video after forking out lots of money for Oticon hearing aids :( haha. Always the way. The sound difference shared in the video was astounding. As always, thanks for the video, you do great work
Halo if I only have 1 ear with low frequency hearing loss, then how to I work with using the Phonak Active Vent receiver..? Also for my case of 1 ear low frequency hearing loss, is listening to music better and safer using a headphones than earbugs? (fyi I don't use earplugs so far only use earbugs), hope to hear from you, many thanks.
Great video Dr Cliff. Does the active vent automaticly switch on for movies? Also phonak hearing aids can range from 2k to 5k approx. Can you do a future video on the difference between the base model and the rolls royce version
What’s the best in-ear or headphone monitor system for a deaf musician? I’m a deaf bassist and my hearing aids help a little but I can’t hear each individual musician in the band when we’re all playing at the same time. Suggestions? BTW, I wear Oticon 3 SP aids.
Your review of the ActiveVent mentioned that Phonak recommends changing the receivers every six months. As my insurance does not cover that and I think I would only stream music at home I was wondering if I could get one pair of closed fitted receivers for home and then switch them for a pair of open vented ones my-self when going out? For this to work, could the HAs be setup so that when streaming they were programmed for the closed fitted receivers and the rest of the time were programmed for the open vented receivers? Thanks very much, Steve
Hi Dr cliff I was just watching your video and I must say I enjoy their immensely and you have a lot of interesting advice regarding the phonak open and closing vent you failed to tell your audience is that you need to replace them every 6 months which can be a costly exercise approximately $100 X 2 Australian per 6 months when you pay so much for an devices and the microphones are not under warranty and the open and closed speaker is not recommended 4 people who suffer from tinnitus regards Mark
@@DrCliffAuD Hi Doctor Cliff thank you for your prompt reply I was reading phonak paperwork regarding the active vent speaker and as you say it may not be mandatory that you change every 6 months but they are suggesting to do that which could cost quite a bit of extra money and I spoke to an Australian audiologist yesterday and he said to me that they need to be replaced in shop you cannot do it yourself which brings up another problem where we live is too far away from the major cities and it clearly states in their paperwork that is not suitable for people with tinnitus. I also I'm under the impression that there are two active vent systems where one is a titanium speaker with the active vent or just a normal active vent and you also can get specially made rubber plugs for your ears to plug off any outside noise is this correct also please advise regards Mark
The active vent system was a huge bust for me. The popping sound when the unit was switched modes was behind annoying, even when I adjusted notifications to the minimum. The point of the the product is good audio…clear sound interrupted by explosive crackles does not meet that goal. Worse, the active vent is not durable. I take great care of my hearing aids, clean them, change the wax guards, keep my ears clean - but despite this, the active vents failed three times (twice in the left, once on the right.) They just stopped working, and I could only hear very faint sound. My audiologist and I both concluded this was wax ingression, and it required replacement. And of course, each replacement means a trip to the audiologist, ordering new product, etc. At least they were under warranty. Conclusion? This is a fatally flawed product that only does what it says it will do under the most optimal conditions. And in this case, “optimal” does not equal the real world.
Dr. Cliff, I am new to having hearing aids for 3 months. I am wearing the Signia Pure 312 2X disposable. When receiving phone calls or streaming music it all sounds flat and not clear. I have spoken with my audiologist or salesman. He made adjustments due to an echo, but the sounds became worse. I am now switching over to the rechargeable Pure 2X. How can convince my audiologist to help me to hear clear sounds that’s not flat when using my hearing aids? This hasn’t been a good experience. I need your advice.
I am actually trialing the Active Vent right now if you’re surfing on your phone the static click drives me nuts. It constantly clicking on and off between searches. I thought I would be okay originally but after using it a few days and the 6 month replacement cost it’s a deal breaker for me. I give Phonak credit for trying this but it really needs a noise canceling feature to eliminate the static click sound.
You should have your provider create a standard program that has the vent closed that you can go into before surfing on your phone. That way, if you are in that program, you will keep the vent closed when going in and out of streaming.
Hey doctor Cliff, can you please send me a transcript of this video. I want to get this phonak hearing aids. I am a muscian and this is by far the best video ever. Thanks so much for this.
Great video! I have new Phillips from Costco. Anything I can do to get better music sound besides putting my fingers in my ears? I play the ukulele and sometimes it sounds weird. Is it weird because of the problem explained here? Thanks.
Yoram Waltuch Thank you Dr. Olson for so many wonderful videos. What are the hearing limitations of the active vent related to a specific audiogram. I have in my left ear: at 250Hz: (ac+mask -> 50dB), (ac->45dB) from 700Hz to 2000Hz both thresholds are lower (better) than 40dB. the right ear threshold is lower than 40dB all the way until 2000Hz. At 2000Hz both ears are at 40dB. from 2000Hz to 8000Hz, both ears are going to 85dB. Can I use the active vent? Is it recommended to me? Many thanks
I don't stream music but i am an audiophile who worries that (age 77) i'm missing some of the highs in my music. I spent a lot of money on equipment in order to get great sound. I really don't worry about hearing conversation better, since i don't socialize that much. Are there aids that specialize in improving the enjoyment of music. Thanks, Joe
Joseph...I am in 'the same boat' as you,but 72.I am trying a pair of Widex Moment 330RIC and I can't get them to sound anywhere near what I had before my hearing went out...they are going back...I don't stream for a phone or other portable device,just 'old fashioned' stereo(2.1). Keith
It seems to me, based upon your videos that push Phonak hearing aids, that Phonak leads the field in what I would call bells and whistles added to hearing aids. What I have not seen you address is how Phonak hearing aids compare to my Oticon More hearing aids in doing the basic job of hearing in a variety of situations that don't require the bells and whistles. Can you do one of those?
I just had a hearing test I have mild to moderate hearing loss and in my sixties. I really want the best of both worlds a good earbud and hearing aid. I was given Oticon Mini R’s to trial. As a hearing aid they work well but the music streaming is lackluster. In addition I small ears with big hands putting the wires in everyday is an ordeal. Therefore this a Active Vent with the molded titanium insert is the way I think I will proceed. Thanks for the video. Have you reviewed Signia Active X?
I am getting used to a set of Resound One rechargeable hearing aids with custom ear molds. My flamenco guitar with nylon strings has an unpleasant faint buzzing/resonance sound with hearing aids that disappears when I take hearing aids out. I have typical loss of high frequency natural hearing at age 83. Can my audiologist tune the unpleasant sound out somehow?
Very pleased to come across this video and also another, slightly different one, on the same subject. Timing was excellent as I have had Phonak P90 hearing aids for only 3 weeks and was coming round to the conclusion that they weren't for me, as I wasn't getting the hearing improvement I had expected. Since watching these videos and the explanation Dr Cliff gives for switching to the ActiveVent receivers, I'm a lot more hopeful that this will be the solution I'm needing to continue using my hearing aids. I've had open vents on mine since I got the aids and will now talk to me audiologist with a view to switching over to ActiveVents. My only concern is that I have reverse slope hearing loss in one ear (uncommon, I'm told) and I wonder if this would have any adverse effect on these receivers. Can any one comment? Thanks. Great, informative, video.
How did you get the second sound sample to sound better on my ReSound Ones since I don’t have closed domes? I do increase the bass and lower the treble sometimes while streaming music and it helps a bit. Actually what sounds the best is putting Apple Earbuds in my ears along with my hearing aids probably because they have the in ear mics.
Thanks so much: i was expecting this video as a Graal !!! IT is reaaly interesting to se the flatness of the frequency response curve of closed dome and the fact they go low in frequency. I would have a remark: in your curve the bandwith is good in low freq (closed dome) but not so in high freq for wich it cuts at about 7KHz that it is a bit far from hifi audio. Do you know if performance increase can be expected for that in the future or if there is a technological blocking point? A gaun thank you so much for all the informations you provide: before you there was more or less .... nothing. Bye!
Cliff I have the p90R with a cros will the active vent work with the p90R? I can hear a lot better with my finger over my ear and I have a closed done on mine
Excelent lecture!!! Question: My audiogram is similar to what u presented; on my Phonak program selection I have also Music program (I believe it is from Phonak and not generated by my Aud). This means that phonak amplifies/tweaks the bass section in music compare to the regular REM?
Yes, its an automatic music mode based on your original prescription. No other hearing aid manufacturers come with that! Normally you’d have to make it on your own
I sing in a Barbershop Chorus and have single sided deafness. I am currently using a Livio 1200 in my good ear. But have not had good success when hearing myself sing and blending with others. I am considering upgrading to a better technology, but have no clue as to what to do next. Any recommendation would be extremely helpful.
Cliff - as you know I use Marvel P90 devices. Think I know answer but any chance Phonak can retrofit for ActiveVent? Looks like a different coupling design. Should one expect 3 separate costs for Life devices, (when supply issues go away), ActiveVent plus titanium? Have you had any issues with changing wax traps? Thanks for info, hoping for another year from Marvels, which you have fitted perfectly. Have changed to Smoky dome to enhance low end from open domes when enjoying music. Best - Tom
Hey Tom, the ActiveVent Receivers are not compatible with Marvel devices. The new wax traps are better than the original ones. Yes, you would need the Life, ActiveVent, and custom Titanium earmolds. Definitely solves the music streaming issue!
Thomas McParland advice would be appreciated. I've had hearing aids only 1 year. They are open dome and music sounds horrible. I'm just as interested in listening to music on a stereo as I am via streaming from my phone, if not more so on the stereo. I'm just now learning of custom ear molds. Are you saying you switch back and forth between open dome, and some type of ear mold for listening to music? I really want to hear music with some bass in it again. Trying to determine if it's worth $ to get an ear mold.
With an exostosis near the canal opening of one ear, both ear buds and molded ear pieces are a problem in that ear...buds fall out, molded ear pieces create painful pressure points no matter how "perfect" the fit.
I own P30-13 and P30-R and the Phonak remote can I BT pair both P30-13 and P30-R to my Phonak pocket remote? Again Own P30-13 and P30-R and one hand held Phonak BT pocket remote can I pair both P30s to one remote? Why -13 and -R -13 is better than the recarable due to the -13 battery last 1 week where the -R I have to charge each day. Also P30-R are only good for 6 years and the -R battery is not repacable and you can not buy -R battery from Phonak or PowerOne companies P30-13 are a better hearing Aid and Unlimited Life.
If I got the Active Vent receivers on my Phonak Paradise hearing aids, in addition to the low tones being audible and not sounding tinny, would it add the actual physical sensation of bass response, like headphones offer?
The driver inside of a hearing aid receiver is significantly smaller than drivers inside of headphones. You will not experience the same amount of Bass that you get from a pair of over the ear headphones.
I have a cookie bite hearing loss and was told my loss is not in the range for these vents but it seems to be exactly what I've wanted all along better sound quality while streaming. Can anyone get these and they work even if not designed for cookie bite hearing loss?
This video explains why my Widex Moment 4 hearing aids are very poor for music even with the Music program running. I take my hearing aids out to listen to music. On iPhone X running iOS 15, I input my audiogram and it applies equalization adjustments to Airpods Pro. Slick! The improvement was substantial. On Android I use WAVELET APP and Sony WH-1000-XM4 headphones. WAVELET applies the same equalization to each ear. The correction is an approximation by me. But, the compelling feature of WAVELET APP is the database of equalization parameters for hundreds of bluetooth headphones, earphone, and earbuds. For me, the Android/WAVELET/Sony WH-1000-XM4 is noticeably better than the iPhone/Audiogram/Airpods Pro. What would be great for Android would be a program that input an audiogram and output the equalization parameters taking the guesswork away. Alternatively on iPhone, an automated way to neutralize the sound bias by bluetooth headphone, earphone, earbud. Both are *heaps* better than listening to music through my hearing aids. Again for me, the Android/WAVELET is the best so far.
Thank you, Dr. Cliff, for another of your countless informative videos. I hope you can answer a question for me. I occasionally stream from my phone or tablet, but, as a musician/audiophile, more than 90% of music listening is from my rather high-end stereo (i.e., $5000 speakers) system. I have Phonak Marvel aids and my question is: Does all the info you provided in this video apply only to streaming, or does it apply equally to 'open-ear' listening (music coming from speakers)? I am using vented domes; is this a factor for bass response and if so, would unvented domes provide better bass response? Thank you very much for any answers you may give; kindly make any other suggestion(s) for attaining the best sound from my stereo system. BTW...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I don’t advise you to listen to music with hearing loss, the hearing aid is just a volume amplifier (I think you already know this), no doubt it’s very good that they were invented to understand speech, but once again loading an already damaged hearing is a bad idea. The best thing you can do pray that gene therapy or stem cell therapy will work. In the meantime, the best thing you can do is not strain your ears again.
@@pipiapi3855 Thank you for the reply; however, my hearing loss is high frequency, certainly not the entire spectrum. Hearing aids restore the ability to hear, again, the upper ranges. (mids and lows sound very much the same with or without the aids) I understand and appreciate your point, but I'm not using the aids to merely 'pump the volume into my ears'. I listen at a level that is reasonable and comfortable and don't feel the light to moderate amplification to provide the highs to be damaging.
@@Pilski I also listen to a lot of music and have a decent setup. I have only recently started using the (UK) NHS Phonak hearing aids which do not contain the tech described in the video. I think that tech ONLY applies to music streamed into the ear and I'm pretty sure it still would not sound as good as a pair of IEM which have been setup on (Samsung) Adaptive sound setting on the phone. Streaming to my HA's is terrible compared to the IEMs. The first thing I did when I got the HA's was to listen to music on the stereo speakers. I used the app to turn the HA's on and off whilst playing, the HA's improve the higher end and it sounds really good I spent two hours listening to loads of stuff :) So from what I've found. I would like to try the ones in the video but I don;t think they would be a match for even the cheaper IEMs setup properly, I know streaming gets rid of the cable but the quality is more important.
So, did you find out about that option? I also have high frequency loss only on one side and do not use/need hearing aids. I too enjoy listening to music on my hifi system so yesterday I took a trial on one hearing aid to compensate the high frequencies alone, it is not perfect but definitely could enjoy "balanced" music again, most likely will keep it. Let me know your experience.
To bring up what Scott asked earlier. Maybe a ballpark figure on the ActiveVent with and without titanium molds? If its going to hurt, just say so. We can take it. Great vid by the way.
I trialed it for my right ear as my left is more occluded. Pros - sound quality with the active vent was very good. In really noisy environments it goes into closed mode. Cons - you can’t do REM’s with it, only in open mode ie a quiet environment setting. The sound of the vent opening and closing is off putting When the system changes from say a noisy environment to quiet it takes a few seconds to adjust. The app is terrible takes 7-8 seconds to connect You make some minor changes then, lock the phone and it goes back to the previous settings. - yes it is on the correct firmware. I’ve tried standard receivers and the audio quality for streaming is very distorted. Currently comparing with the oticon more 1 - now the My Music setting is amazing! No distortion at all.
I have a question .. does tinnitus random change in frequency like all the time? And get worse over time for no reason? I can’t find anyone by me who knows what they are talking about and I love your channel and you’ve helped me not lose my mind lol. I ask Bc I have some nights where I will come to bed To a rarely quiet room and I may not need my usual methods as much. Then I have other nights or mornings that it’s like omg what the hell don’t tell me it’s getting worse. Usually goes back to normal but I get scared that it won’t lol…. Help? 😂
me too. have now had this infernal ringing. sounds like a musicians triangle. but only one annoying tone. sometimes it changes pitch, but not all the time. so annoying.
@@DrCliffAuD and I have no loud sound exposure so it scares me that it could get eventually so randomly unbearable that I’ll lose my mind ☹️ google is my worst enemy.
Love this video, Cliff! I'm picturing myself sitting on the couch listening to music 🎶 with my fingers in my ears. Do you think your dad will crack up or just give me a long-suffering look??? 🤣🤣🤣
I checked out the candidacy chart for the activevent receiver. My hearing loss is at 60-65dB at the lower frequencies, so unfortunately I am not a good candidate for this technology.
@@michaelcampbell8324 occlusion effect is only present with individuals with low frequency thresholds at 50 dBHL and below. Any effect of your own voice being too loud is a product of the amplification and you will get used to it.
How about listening to live or recorded music, not streamed music. How do you adjust a patient's hearing aids for better sound quality for music (audiophile or a musician)?
I have on a trial basis a pair of Widex 330 RIC and I am using the Widex app,but after trying them for half a day,I decided to try them listening to my stereo speakers and they sounded like garbage...I had the bas turned all the way up and the midrange and treble turned all the way down using the Widex app and it still sounded like a cheap clock radio....what is the trick to getting good sound from speakers?...I don't stream from my phone into my HA's at all..... Right now,I am basically listening to my HA's,not my stereo...HELP!!
While I applaude hearing aid manufacturers working to improve music streaming, they are sadly missing an opportunity to improve hearing music in a live environment. Their terminology, RIC, is misleading as the "receiver" (except for Resound) has nothing to do with receiving. The "receiver" is in actuality a transmitter of the sound received by the device behind the ear. With placement of microphones on the top and to the back of the ear, both directionality and perception of stereo is lost. Using conventional hearing aids, live music becomes monophonic sound. When will they wake up and use the pinna.
Uh oh! Second video in 10 minutes that sounds like a commercial for Phonak. You really should say something about your opinions not being biased by your relationship with Phonak.
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Wow. I really need your help. I may need to fly to Arizona this summer . I have both Phonak and an Oticon hearing aids. I prefer the Oticon but I own both and they are top of the line. I purchase them in 2021 . I first purchased the Phonaks but couldn’t get them to work properly with my hearing loss. I have a lot of hearing issues. If you can’t help then nobody can.
Thanks. Helpful, as usual. Does the ActiVent sense music over the air and make the switch as it does for music over Bluetooth?
If anyone reading this has a Samsung phone AND can only hear in 1 ear... (ie you have a bicross possibly) set your phone to Mono. Lots of audio you are streaming is split into stereo. If you only hear in 1 ear, you're only streaming half the music or audio.
Go to Settings> Accesibility > Hearing Enhancements > Then turn on "Mono Audio" for connected audio. Not promising anything but it helped me quite a bit.
I stream music with bluetooth with Phonak Paradise P90 and at the same time put on my wired headsets. Great results. My hearing loss is almost idential to the graph you showed, except about 10 db less of high range
I had a similar thought - does the headset essentially keep the low-frequency bass sound from escaping your ear, giving a richer sound?
I wonder if I stream music with Phonak P90 and wear my earbuds(not connected to bluetooth on my phone) would that create a closed vent? Going to try it.
Are these receivers appropriate for severe to profound loss. Trying to get the Life but out of stock. Ultra power receivers are too, and Phonak said it could remain so until Nobember. Supply chain issues.
Great video Cliff as usual. Thank you. I have recently bought the Costco Kirkland Signature 10 (Phonak Paradise in disguise). The streaming sound is terrible. Any idea if the active vent can be retro fitted to these and if so by whom? Thanks for all your advice.
Dr. Cliff, given the trade-offs between different vents, domes or earmolds which you describe, if one purchases Kirkland Signature 10.0 HAs and therefore ActiVents are not an option even though the HAs are essentially Phonak Paradise equivalents, which of the following alternatives do you think would give the best result for someone with mild low-frequency hearing loss and moderate to severe high-frequency hearing loss, particularly when streaming music or tv, in addition to normal day to day conversational situations:
1) open dome or open vent but wearing noise blocking earmuffs/safety headset when listening to music (to minimize escape of low frequencies)
2) open dome or open vent but removing HAs and using Apple iPod Pros (perhaps adapted with the Apple software for specific hearing loss) when listening to music
3) other suggestion you may have?
Thanks for your very informative and helpful videos.
Me watching this video after forking out lots of money for Oticon hearing aids :(
haha. Always the way.
The sound difference shared in the video was astounding. As always, thanks for the video, you do great work
Halo if I only have 1 ear with low frequency hearing loss, then how to I work with using the Phonak Active Vent receiver..? Also for my case of 1 ear low frequency hearing loss, is listening to music better and safer using a headphones than earbugs? (fyi I don't use earplugs so far only use earbugs), hope to hear from you, many thanks.
Great video Dr Cliff. Does the active vent automaticly switch on for movies? Also phonak hearing aids can range from 2k to 5k approx. Can you do a future video on the difference between the base model and the rolls royce version
Hi doctor Cliff, appreciate your videos. Do you know what version of Blietooth is Phonak using? Thanks
How well does this work with live acoustic music?
very perceptive Cynthia. I was thinking the same as you.
What’s the best in-ear or headphone monitor system for a deaf musician? I’m a deaf bassist and my hearing aids help a little but I can’t hear each individual musician in the band when we’re all playing at the same time. Suggestions? BTW, I wear Oticon 3 SP aids.
Your review of the ActiveVent mentioned that Phonak recommends changing the receivers every six months. As my insurance does not cover that and I think I would only stream music at home I was wondering if I could get one pair of closed fitted receivers for home and then switch them for a pair of open vented ones my-self when going out? For this to work, could the HAs be setup so that when streaming they were programmed for the closed fitted receivers and the rest of the time were programmed for the open vented receivers? Thanks very much, Steve
Thanks! Can paradise aids be retrofitted? Approximate cost?
I think I saw in another video that the receivers need to be changed every 6 mos, is that right?
Hi Dr cliff I was just watching your video and I must say I enjoy their immensely and you have a lot of interesting advice regarding the phonak open and closing vent you failed to tell your audience is that you need to replace them every 6 months which can be a costly exercise approximately $100 X 2 Australian per 6 months when you pay so much for an devices and the microphones are not under warranty and the open and closed speaker is not recommended 4 people who suffer from tinnitus regards Mark
It is not mandatory that you replace them every six months. They have a six month warranty but that does not mean that you have to change them.
@@DrCliffAuD Hi Doctor Cliff thank you for your prompt reply I was reading phonak paperwork regarding the active vent speaker and as you say it may not be mandatory that you change every 6 months but they are suggesting to do that which could cost quite a bit of extra money and I spoke to an Australian audiologist yesterday and he said to me that they need to be replaced in shop you cannot do it yourself which brings up another problem where we live is too far away from the major cities and it clearly states in their paperwork that is not suitable for people with tinnitus. I also I'm under the impression that there are two active vent systems where one is a titanium speaker with the active vent or just a normal active vent and you also can get specially made rubber plugs for your ears to plug off any outside noise is this correct also please advise regards Mark
Is this compatible with phonak audeo marvel m90 RT
I have BTE hearing aids, my hearing aids have openings in in the molds, what can I temporally use to fill the holes for testing?
Estimated cost?
So how can I can improve my streaming sound with Oticon More hearing aids.
Is the activent part of a custom ear mold?
My insurance TruHearing covers ears molds but… ?
The active vent system was a huge bust for me. The popping sound when the unit was switched modes was behind annoying, even when I adjusted notifications to the minimum. The point of the the product is good audio…clear sound interrupted by explosive crackles does not meet that goal.
Worse, the active vent is not durable. I take great care of my hearing aids, clean them, change the wax guards, keep my ears clean - but despite this, the active vents failed three times (twice in the left, once on the right.) They just stopped working, and I could only hear very faint sound. My audiologist and I both concluded this was wax ingression, and it required replacement. And of course, each replacement means a trip to the audiologist, ordering new product, etc. At least they were under warranty.
Conclusion? This is a fatally flawed product that only does what it says it will do under the most optimal conditions. And in this case, “optimal” does not equal the real world.
Dr. Cliff, I am new to having hearing aids for 3 months. I am wearing the Signia Pure 312 2X disposable. When receiving phone calls or streaming music it all sounds flat and not clear.
I have spoken with my audiologist or salesman. He made adjustments due to an echo, but the sounds became worse. I am now switching over to the rechargeable Pure 2X.
How can convince my audiologist to help me to hear clear sounds that’s not flat when using my hearing aids? This hasn’t been a good experience. I need your advice.
I am actually trialing the Active Vent right now if you’re surfing on your phone the static click drives me nuts. It constantly clicking on and off between searches. I thought I would be okay originally but after using it a few days and the 6 month replacement cost it’s a deal breaker for me. I give Phonak credit for trying this but it really needs a noise canceling feature to eliminate the static click sound.
You should have your provider create a standard program that has the vent closed that you can go into before surfing on your phone. That way, if you are in that program, you will keep the vent closed when going in and out of streaming.
Hey doctor Cliff, can you please send me a transcript of this video. I want to get this phonak hearing aids. I am a muscian and this is by far the best video ever. Thanks so much for this.
Great video! I have new Phillips from Costco. Anything I can do to get better music sound besides putting my fingers in my ears? I play the ukulele and sometimes it sounds weird. Is it weird because of the problem explained here? Thanks.
Will those fit my signia charge &h I??
Yoram Waltuch
Thank you Dr. Olson for so many wonderful videos.
What are the hearing limitations of the active vent related to a specific audiogram. I have in my left ear: at 250Hz: (ac+mask -> 50dB), (ac->45dB) from 700Hz to 2000Hz both thresholds are lower (better) than 40dB. the right ear threshold is lower than 40dB all the way until 2000Hz. At 2000Hz both ears are at 40dB. from 2000Hz to 8000Hz, both ears are going to 85dB.
Can I use the active vent?
Is it recommended to me?
Many thanks
You would probably do better with a pressure vent unless you get bad occlusion effect which I wouldn't suspect with your thresholds.
Can you adjust for streaming music only in the setting channels? It seems Signia can.
I don't stream music but i am an audiophile who worries that (age 77) i'm missing some of the highs in my music. I spent a lot of money on equipment in order to get great sound. I really don't worry about hearing conversation better, since i don't socialize that much. Are there aids that specialize in improving the enjoyment of music.
Thanks,
Joe
Joseph...I am in 'the same boat' as you,but 72.I am trying a pair of Widex Moment 330RIC and I can't get them to sound anywhere near what I had before my hearing went out...they are going back...I don't stream for a phone or other portable device,just 'old fashioned' stereo(2.1). Keith
Will they work with phonic marvel 90 and what is the cost for the titanium inserts? TIA
It seems to me, based upon your videos that push Phonak hearing aids, that Phonak leads the field in what I would call bells and whistles added to hearing aids. What I have not seen you address is how Phonak hearing aids compare to my Oticon More hearing aids in doing the basic job of hearing in a variety of situations that don't require the bells and whistles. Can you do one of those?
Available for the Marvel M-70? Cost?
I just had a hearing test I have mild to moderate hearing loss and in my sixties. I really want the best of both worlds a good earbud and hearing aid. I was given Oticon Mini R’s to trial. As a hearing aid they work well but the music streaming is lackluster. In addition I small ears with big hands putting the wires in everyday is an ordeal. Therefore this a Active Vent with the molded titanium insert is the way I think I will proceed. Thanks for the video. Have you reviewed Signia Active X?
I am getting used to a set of Resound One rechargeable hearing aids with custom ear molds. My flamenco guitar with nylon strings has an unpleasant faint buzzing/resonance sound with hearing aids that disappears when I take hearing aids out. I have typical loss of high frequency natural hearing at age 83. Can my audiologist tune the unpleasant sound out somehow?
Very pleased to come across this video and also another, slightly different one, on the same subject. Timing was excellent as I have had Phonak P90 hearing aids for only 3 weeks and was coming round to the conclusion that they weren't for me, as I wasn't getting the hearing improvement I had expected. Since watching these videos and the explanation Dr Cliff gives for switching to the ActiveVent receivers, I'm a lot more hopeful that this will be the solution I'm needing to continue using my hearing aids. I've had open vents on mine since I got the aids and will now talk to me audiologist with a view to switching over to ActiveVents. My only concern is that I have reverse slope hearing loss in one ear (uncommon, I'm told) and I wonder if this would have any adverse effect on these receivers. Can any one comment? Thanks. Great, informative, video.
I have p90 also, and have a low frequency loss in one ear the active vent has worked for me, its worth a shot
How did you get the second sound sample to sound better on my ReSound Ones since I don’t have closed domes? I do increase the bass and lower the treble sometimes while streaming music and it helps a bit. Actually what sounds the best is putting Apple Earbuds in my ears along with my hearing aids probably because they have the in ear mics.
Can someone please tell me how I can purchase hearing aids. I’m completely new to this.
How can I stream music from my Android 8 phone ?
Is this avalible on BTE hearing aids?
Will this let enough air into the ears to prevent ear infections?
Thanks so much: i was expecting this video as a Graal !!! IT is reaaly interesting to se the flatness of the frequency response curve of closed dome and the fact they go low in frequency. I would have a remark: in your curve the bandwith is good in low freq (closed dome) but not so in high freq for wich it cuts at about 7KHz that it is a bit far from hifi audio. Do you know if performance increase can be expected for that in the future or if there is a technological blocking point? A gaun thank you so much for all the informations you provide: before you there was more or less .... nothing. Bye!
Cliff I have the p90R with a cros will the active vent work with the p90R? I can hear a lot better with my finger over my ear and I have a closed done on mine
Yes it will
Wow my hearing aids have that first sound. I do like the Second sound. Thank you Dr. Cliff💕👍🏻👏🏼
I'm interested in using these with Phonak Audeo Life HAs, but assume the ActiveVent recievers are not waterproof, correct?
Correct
does the active open and close whne listing to Live music the same as when streaming ? Or only when streaming
Not with live music.
Excelent lecture!!!
Question: My audiogram is similar to what u presented; on my Phonak program selection I have also Music program (I believe it is from Phonak and not generated by my Aud). This means that phonak amplifies/tweaks the bass section in music compare to the regular REM?
Yes, its an automatic music mode based on your original prescription. No other hearing aid manufacturers come with that! Normally you’d have to make it on your own
I sing in a Barbershop Chorus and have single sided deafness. I am currently using a Livio 1200 in my good ear. But have not had good success when hearing myself sing and blending with others. I am considering upgrading to a better technology, but have no clue as to what to do next. Any recommendation would be extremely helpful.
Have you ever tried widex?
Yes, ended up with a Widex Moment 2. So far it is okay. Needs lots of adjustments.
Does active vent totally replace the venting in the slim tip? Does it accommodate the various venting sizes?
No, it equates to a 3.5mm open venting.
Cliff - as you know I use Marvel P90 devices. Think I know answer but any chance Phonak can retrofit for ActiveVent? Looks like a different coupling design. Should one expect 3 separate costs for Life devices, (when supply issues go away), ActiveVent plus titanium? Have you had any issues with changing wax traps? Thanks for info, hoping for another year from Marvels, which you have fitted perfectly. Have changed to Smoky dome to enhance low end from open domes when enjoying music. Best - Tom
Hey Tom, the ActiveVent Receivers are not compatible with Marvel devices. The new wax traps are better than the original ones. Yes, you would need the Life, ActiveVent, and custom Titanium earmolds. Definitely solves the music streaming issue!
Thomas McParland advice would be appreciated. I've had hearing aids only 1 year. They are open dome and music sounds horrible. I'm just as interested in listening to music on a stereo as I am via streaming from my phone, if not more so on the stereo. I'm just now learning of custom ear molds. Are you saying you switch back and forth between open dome, and some type of ear mold for listening to music?
I really want to hear music with some bass in it again. Trying to determine if it's worth $ to get an ear mold.
Thanks for another great video. Can’t wait to get mine!
With an exostosis near the canal opening of one ear, both ear buds and molded ear pieces are a problem in that ear...buds fall out, molded ear pieces create painful pressure points no matter how "perfect" the fit.
I own P30-13 and P30-R and the Phonak remote can I BT pair both P30-13 and P30-R to my Phonak pocket remote?
Again
Own P30-13 and P30-R and one hand held Phonak BT pocket remote can I pair both P30s to one remote?
Why -13 and -R
-13 is better than the recarable due to the -13 battery last 1 week where the -R I have to charge each day. Also P30-R are only good for 6 years and the -R battery is not repacable and you can not buy -R battery from Phonak or PowerOne companies
P30-13 are a better hearing Aid and Unlimited Life.
If I got the Active Vent receivers on my Phonak Paradise hearing aids, in addition to the low tones being audible and not sounding tinny, would it add the actual physical sensation of bass response, like headphones offer?
The driver inside of a hearing aid receiver is significantly smaller than drivers inside of headphones. You will not experience the same amount of Bass that you get from a pair of over the ear headphones.
I have a cookie bite hearing loss and was told my loss is not in the range for these vents but it seems to be exactly what I've wanted all along better sound quality while streaming. Can anyone get these and they work even if not designed for cookie bite hearing loss?
This video explains why my Widex Moment 4 hearing aids are very poor for music even with the Music program running. I take my hearing aids out to listen to music.
On iPhone X running iOS 15, I input my audiogram and it applies equalization adjustments to Airpods Pro. Slick! The improvement was substantial.
On Android I use WAVELET APP and Sony WH-1000-XM4 headphones. WAVELET applies the same equalization to each ear. The correction is an approximation by me. But, the compelling feature of WAVELET APP is the database of equalization parameters for hundreds of bluetooth headphones, earphone, and earbuds.
For me, the Android/WAVELET/Sony WH-1000-XM4 is noticeably better than the iPhone/Audiogram/Airpods Pro. What would be great for Android would be a program that input an audiogram and output the equalization parameters taking the guesswork away.
Alternatively on iPhone, an automated way to neutralize the sound bias by bluetooth headphone, earphone, earbud.
Both are *heaps* better than listening to music through my hearing aids. Again for me, the Android/WAVELET is the best so far.
I use Widex and they’re the best for musicians actually and especially for live music. You’re audiologist probably needs to make adjustments
Thank you, Dr. Cliff, for another of your countless informative videos. I hope you can answer a question for me. I occasionally stream from my phone or tablet, but, as a musician/audiophile, more than 90% of music listening is from my rather high-end stereo (i.e., $5000 speakers) system. I have Phonak Marvel aids and my question is: Does all the info you provided in this video apply only to streaming, or does it apply equally to 'open-ear' listening (music coming from speakers)?
I am using vented domes; is this a factor for bass response and if so, would unvented domes provide better bass response?
Thank you very much for any answers you may give; kindly make any other suggestion(s) for attaining the best sound from my stereo system.
BTW...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I don’t advise you to listen to music with hearing loss, the hearing aid is just a volume amplifier (I think you already know this), no doubt it’s very good that they were invented to understand speech, but once again loading an already damaged hearing is a bad idea. The best thing you can do pray that gene therapy or stem cell therapy will work.
In the meantime, the best thing you can do is not strain your ears again.
@@pipiapi3855 Thank you for the reply; however, my hearing loss is high frequency, certainly not the entire spectrum. Hearing aids restore the ability to hear, again, the upper ranges. (mids and lows sound very much the same with or without the aids) I understand and appreciate your point, but I'm not using the aids to merely 'pump the volume into my ears'. I listen at a level that is reasonable and comfortable and don't feel the light to moderate amplification to provide the highs to be damaging.
@@Pilski I also listen to a lot of music and have a decent setup. I have only recently started using the (UK) NHS Phonak hearing aids which do not contain the tech described in the video. I think that tech ONLY applies to music streamed into the ear and I'm pretty sure it still would not sound as good as a pair of IEM which have been setup on (Samsung) Adaptive sound setting on the phone. Streaming to my HA's is terrible compared to the IEMs. The first thing I did when I got the HA's was to listen to music on the stereo speakers. I used the app to turn the HA's on and off whilst playing, the HA's improve the higher end and it sounds really good I spent two hours listening to loads of stuff :)
So from what I've found. I would like to try the ones in the video but I don;t think they would be a match for even the cheaper IEMs setup properly, I know streaming gets rid of the cable but the quality is more important.
So, did you find out about that option? I also have high frequency loss only on one side and do not use/need hearing aids. I too enjoy listening to music on my hifi system so yesterday I took a trial on one hearing aid to compensate the high frequencies alone, it is not perfect but definitely could enjoy "balanced" music again, most likely will keep it. Let me know your experience.
@@jaimeespinoza8268 Seems it applies primarily to streaming.
To bring up what Scott asked earlier. Maybe a ballpark figure on the ActiveVent with and without titanium molds? If its going to hurt, just say so. We can take it. Great vid by the way.
Thank you
I trialed it for my right ear as my left is more occluded.
Pros - sound quality with the active vent was very good.
In really noisy environments it goes into closed mode.
Cons - you can’t do REM’s with it, only in open mode ie a quiet environment setting.
The sound of the vent opening and closing is off putting
When the system changes from say a noisy environment to quiet it takes a few seconds to adjust.
The app is terrible takes 7-8 seconds to connect
You make some minor changes then, lock the phone and it goes back to the previous settings. - yes it is on the correct firmware.
I’ve tried standard receivers and the audio quality for streaming is very distorted.
Currently comparing with the oticon more 1 - now the My Music setting is amazing! No distortion at all.
I have a question .. does tinnitus random change in frequency like all the time? And get worse over time for no reason? I can’t find anyone by me who knows what they are talking about and I love your channel and you’ve helped me not lose my mind lol. I ask Bc I have some nights where I will come to bed To a rarely quiet room and I may not need my usual methods as much. Then I have other nights or mornings that it’s like omg what the hell don’t tell me it’s getting worse. Usually goes back to normal but I get scared that it won’t lol…. Help? 😂
For some people it does.
me too. have now had this infernal ringing. sounds like a musicians triangle. but only one annoying tone. sometimes it changes pitch, but not all the time. so annoying.
@@DrCliffAuD and I have no loud sound exposure so it scares me that it could get eventually so randomly unbearable that I’ll lose my mind ☹️ google is my worst enemy.
Thanks!
Love this video, Cliff! I'm picturing myself sitting on the couch listening to music 🎶 with my fingers in my ears. Do you think your dad will crack up or just give me a long-suffering look??? 🤣🤣🤣
He'll probably just laugh and shake his head. 🤣
He'll probably just laugh and shake his head. 🤣
Am hard time dealing with without me hearing aids I wished that someone help with my hearing aides to get it working again
I checked out the candidacy chart for the activevent receiver. My hearing loss is at 60-65dB at the lower frequencies, so unfortunately I am not a good candidate for this technology.
You just need a closed vent all the time.
@@DrCliffAuD Thank you so much for the response! If I have the close vent, wouldn't I get the occlusion effect? Do you ever get used to it?
@@michaelcampbell8324 occlusion effect is only present with individuals with low frequency thresholds at 50 dBHL and below. Any effect of your own voice being too loud is a product of the amplification and you will get used to it.
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So now we can listen to music trough an invisible hearing aid,like living a movie while your favorite soundtrack is playing on
How about listening to live or recorded music, not streamed music. How do you adjust a patient's hearing aids for better sound quality for music (audiophile or a musician)?
I have on a trial basis a pair of Widex 330 RIC and I am using the Widex app,but after trying them for half a day,I decided to try them listening to my stereo speakers and they sounded like garbage...I had the bas turned all the way up and the midrange and treble turned all the way down using the Widex app and it still sounded like a cheap clock radio....what is the trick to getting good sound from speakers?...I don't stream from my phone into my HA's at all.....
Right now,I am basically listening to my HA's,not my stereo...HELP!!
Do you have molds or domes? Also you could ask your audiologist to make adjustments
While I applaude hearing aid manufacturers working to improve music streaming, they are sadly missing an opportunity to improve hearing music in a live environment. Their terminology, RIC, is misleading as the "receiver" (except for Resound) has nothing to do with receiving. The "receiver" is in actuality a transmitter of the sound received by the device behind the ear. With placement of microphones on the top and to the back of the ear, both directionality and perception of stereo is lost. Using conventional hearing aids, live music becomes monophonic sound. When will they wake up and use the pinna.
What??? I want this.
Uh oh! Second video in 10 minutes that sounds like a commercial for Phonak. You really should say something about your opinions not being biased by your relationship with Phonak.
Now if only they can bake this into the virto p
Psychoacoustics sounds like a band dedicated to Sigmund Freud and they only sing about mothers and subconsciousness.
Please, Doctor Cliff, say "people with hearing loss" not "individuals with hearing loss." We're people.
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I tried paradise performance listening to music.I didn't like it
With closed ActiveVent? If not, you're talking about something completely different.
@@DrCliffAuD what is it I don't know.
I like bass sound.
But in this device I didn't feel it
It's more about psychoacoustics. If you had open venting then you lost the bass. Watch the video and it should make sense.
I am enjoying listening 🎶 to music In my
@@avrahamshrybman3573 is it paradise phonac
Are you married?