Putin's meatgrinder tactics lead to devastating tank losses | Hamish de Bretton-Gordon
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- “We know that they’ve suffered over half a million casualties. The Russians have thus far lost over 4000 tanks but they keep piling people through.”
Nato’s military exercise in Lithuania is a “conventional defence deterrent” against Putin’s advances, says Hamish de Bretton-Gordon
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Stop starting video half way then going back to the beginning.Very annoying
It does upset one's equilibrium. I must say.
Yes. Continuity..?
I hate how they always start with a clip from half way through
It's infuriating, I wish they'd stop it.
I instinctively skip ahead till I hear the interviewer.
They treat their audience like simpletons for a reason.
I like it, sometimes. It's a hook to motivate you to listen to the whole segment.
By repeating a part of the interview they Max the time and get extra money from TH-cam
This current conflict has very much braught things into perspective, it is time for every person to do the right thing, support the armed forces. I intend to lend my services as a senior design engineer to the British armed forces, free of charge, i hope many more professionals do similar
hey senior design engineer, Why don't u fix your own shirt country? I cant imagine there are no one in need in Britain? No homeless? no drug addicts? no less fortunate?
Never mind about Ukraine you have plenty to worry about there.
@@throughput6674 I think Rusha' needs to get toilets for its citizens. We're losing to Ukraine AND don't we dont have toilets😔
I would know, Im Russian! 😔
@@dpelpal you are not Russian, you are lying.
@@dpelpalWell said 😊
No we need to stop the big countries from producing military weapons and causing Wars weather it be Britain America or China
When I was statooned in Germany during the mid-70s, I think we had more troops there than we have in the whole of our forces today!
Putin is not marching West
@@phoenixzappa7366 You realize that Ukraine is WEST of Ruzzia heh? Putin is LITERALLY marching west 🤣🤣
@@SavageJunky How did rusha lose half the land they held 2 years ago? Seems like they marched BACKWARDS
@@SavageJunkyyou know that its been provoked by Ukrainian neo people right? Or you just shoe guy?
@@dpelpal they didnt lose any land, the countries they held captive were freed.
The war is tough on both sides, the Russians underestimated Ukraine and are realizing now that they need to hit harder than before. Russia has sent delegates so many times to NK, Iran and china. This delegates were not there for tea, they needed economical but more importantly military assistance. Russia's stockpile is not infinite and thats the reason they have switched there economy to a war footing and also because it is worse than the Kremlin wants its people and the world to know. Ukraine on the other hand had been mostly defending within its borders or territories, if they were allowed to hit targets in Russia 2 years ago, maybe the war would have not gotten this far or maybe it would have worsened for them. But the truth is, Ukraine is a lot smaller economically and militarily compared to Russia but it has inflicted so much damage to Russia. Putin has been very wary of Ukraine striking within Russian territory. Wanna know why? Because Russia has a less than impressive air defense, such strikes will awaken Russians to the reality of the war since the Kremlin has locked down the national media within Russia. The war is bad for Ukraine mostly since they are facing a much greater opponent and they are fighting with one hands behind their backs due to this weapon use restrictions, but whatever way it ends, this 3 days military campaign turned 3 years war, has worn Russia out too.
You know your country is a joke when you have to ask North Korea for help😂😂😂😂😂
Oh God this is too easy lol
Ukraine is losing badly, and should anyone care how much it’s costing the Russians. It’s still lives lost while the war pigs laugh and rub their hands….
@@dpelpal
North Korea, IMF, World bank debt = 0
Merry-Can debt = 34 trillion.
You only show your western stupidity.
Russia sells resources and commodities to funds it war
while in the west you use deficit spending.
@@throughput6674 Funny how people are queung at the US border to get in, and queing at the Rushn' border to get OUT. 😂
@@dpelpal People Que at all western countries, because they are welfare states. every man and his dog wants a free handout.
your logic is warped.
You never, ever negotiate from a position of weakness. Dictators only respect strength.
That is what Putin says about Zelensky!
As the old saying goes "You reap what you sow"
The UK needs to take defence seriously, and that includes having sufficient forces and resources to support allies. Right now we have enough ammo for what - nearly a week of warfare? - and so few personnel that they could not fill Wembly Stadium.
No matter how much one or other political party wants to attract voters by offering better funding for immigrants, better mental health care for huge numbers of young people claiming to suffer anxiety and/or depression so severe that they are unfit for work, or is it DEI, or revision of the education and cultural structure to guilt-trip the population into funding 'reparations' to anyone and everyone who has recent African heritage, the basic fact is that there will be no security unless this fundamental role is funded.
For those not prepared to support this on account of identification with other countries or cultures, feel free to return to the countries and cultures you prefer.
I'm of mixed Border Scots, Cornish and Cotswold heritage - and if I have to return to my preferred culture its probably still in England.
I do not disagree with the problem that our current government in particular has gutted our armed forces
Whether one should suspect the Russian connections to Cameron, Johnson, May, ERG, Brexiters etc for these bad choices - that is still in an as yet unpublished "Russian interferance" report blocked by Johnson before the 2019 election - it definitely doesn't have anything at all to do with immigrants, youth mental health problems, DEI or any form of "wokeness".
It was a clear government choice made after 2014, that has ensured that the British Army would not be in a fit state or ready for a war in Europe.
NATO has far more manpower than Russia, but they aren't willing to use them so wastefully.
Not in Europe they don't. And there's no way that the USA would be willing to fight Russia directly. It's too busy worrying about creating more wars in the Middle East and Taiwan.
@@ghalston5641 ... Ukraine would have liberated their territory if true... Total available NATO forces ready to fight frontlines is about 180,000.. Doesn't even make up the manpower shortfall Ukraine has.. Plus 40% of Americans and Brits are obese so mobisation isn't an option 😂
@@ghalston5641germanistan,englandstan,frenchenistan,united afro-mexican states !!!😂😂😂😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
They are not using it because that statment is false. Literally listen to any miltary expert. NATO is a joke. They have good special forces thats about it
That’s cause good old putin cares for no one but himself
Thank you expert sir for having a decent microphone 🎤.
You have sirs. And then there are these expert sirs.
The meat grinder Russian tactics is exactly why the US built the A-10 50 years ago. Once the F-16 is able to secure air superiority, then Ukraine needs to be given the option of the A-10. A variation of the WW2 Flying Tigers may be the way to get it done.
A-10 is infamous for blue on blue. Further man portables are everywhere in that space.
And what makes you think that F-16s would perform any better than Ukr MiG-29s for example, or Su-27? Yes, the F-16 may be upgraded compared to these two, but still, Russian Su-35s and MiG-31s are still much more deadlier platforms in almost all regards, especially the ‘35… And these F-16s were shot down many times by old Soviet era system… I’m not sayibg they will not produce some damage to the Russians, but insignificant for sure…
@@flanker8724 I guess the point is to make Russians think once or twice extra before going airborne to drop glidebombs with impunity.
European nations need to be producing 3 million shells per year. They aren't a third of this production number. Need to be aware and take real moves to do something other than just talk.
Why aren't the Political Parties taking forward this point and running on it.
Would you like to explain that rather confusing comment
Putin to self: "Massive casualties didn't bother Stalin and they don't bother me."
OK general
Aww, the interviewer thinking Rishi talking about national service was in any way useful to the army when he helped whittle it down...
Get rid of the tories, and lets never have them back!
YOU DONT KNOW JACK!
Well said. Laughable propaganda.
Britain needs to call up a force of 300 K now and get the country up to speed on military production and logistics feeding through the Polish/Bellorussian border and in support of the Baltics. France should align on the Ukraine / Belorussian border. Poland and Lithuania need to annex Kaliningrad immediately. Etc.
War is a question of economics, the stronger will win.
So Ukraine then since it has many economies assisting.
Given the fact that rusha's economy is smaller than Italy's and the living standards are lower than Peru's, I dont see a lot of hope for a Rushn' victory lol
@@dpelpalawesome comment thanks for putting it in to perspective for folks.
I guess that's why the world's largest economy has only enjoyed victory in a single one of it's wars since 1945 - the invasion of Grenada.
@@dpelpalWho still all resurs from africa and oil from middle east ?
Please ban the word "escalation". It only serves Russian interests.
For real. Russia can't escalate any more than they already have. Their crimes won't be forgotten either
BAN THE WORD SHOVELS as well
@@teddypicker8799Who destroying Lybia and steel the oil ?
@@magnumilirikum342 what are you talking about you dribbling mess?
Technically Britain doesn't have an army, they have a militia. They just don't have the numbers needed for an army.
Mmm yes your probably right ..but what wins wars are freedom ..you fight for it ..not like Russia who dont even no what there fighting for
@@CarlosSanchez-dv1ew
According to you..
97% of Russians voted for President Putin no western leader has had such majority .
The attack on Moscow , yep the Russians know what they are fighting for , and unlike the west, culturally know what they are fighting for .
As they are told, their parliament discusses and makes decisions.
Ours in the west do not .
The Donbas regions hold ethnic Russians , the ones who have been attacked by Ukraine since and before the Minsk agreement in 2014.
Yes Russians are fighting for Russians ..
It is the west that doesn’t know what Russia is fighting for .
So exactly how many days of shells do we have to fight in a conventional war?
Because I have heard figures like one week !
Not to worry, the US owns their own armaments factories, carefully mothballed for when they are needed. What is needed will appear.
Let's take a moment to remember Boris Johnson talking Ukraine out of a peace deal at the start of the conflict. Another good job Bojo! 👍👏
Oh you mean Ukraine giving up 20% of their territory? Funny they didn't want to do that
@@simonford7806 a democracy would!
@@aac74nope!
Hamish seems to be worn out by his own nonsense.
He's also borrowed someone's bookcase to posture in front of
And what exactly makes you the expert in the matter?
@@larsp5109 that is so so cool. Well done.
@@russellspeed1693 So, you have no answer. Just as I thought
@@larsp5109 not for you nor any NPC
Ruzzia threatened that it can sunk UK, and it seems that this did not 'get through' to the general knowledge. Brits seem to think that 'we are far away from that front'. This is just partially true, many do not understand what happens to the economies during such conflicts even if actual events take place thousands miles away.
"Ruzzia threatened that can sunk UK" - what's this mean in English ?
@@gregorysurovoi3968 Ask them, AFAIK this is how they described nooking shore, causing tsunami-like effect. I will not even waste my time to find who told that either Mediviediew or Putin? Whatever.
@@michalwiktorow2188 Do you believe in fairies, as well? The Japanese tsunami of 2011 released energy five times greater than the largest nuclear weapon, the impact on Japan was minimal.
Ukraine is running dangerously low on soldiers!
plz send your kids to help them
Tells you everything you need to know about who is really winning
There recurring 400 k conscripts
@@_alienblood Yes, and the recruitment interview main question is: Do you likes grilled ground meat?
Nothing like his loss in the manhattan court…if trump doesn’t win, neither does Russia or Putin..
I wonder who crying the most Putin or Trump.
so now you resort to court to defeat Trump.
@@HarwardMbonxaDonald tRump is a grifter and a conman. No one out tRump in court but tRump.
@@HarwardMbonxa The democrats cant win on principles or good policy. The only way they know how to win is to cheat or steal elections. I think its grate that trump first executive order will be to dismantle and outlaw the democrats as a political party. I hope he goes even further and does a saddam on the democrats. Democrats should be very nervous of what is coming.
@@HarwardMbonxa Are you tired of winning yet?
Why does the camera periodically switch to the one person who is not speaking? So weird.
Because TR is run by children and techno-dweebs, worst audio management on YT. Totally clueless at the top, 100% ignore the comments, protests by the users!!
Dont know where Times Radio gets it's info. from but they are wrong.
Thanks for confirming they are right. How is the weather in Moscow?
Whittled down ? Decimated!
The frontlines hasn’t even moved nor do I see any heat signals coming from either side on the Ukrainian weather tracker, there’s basically an unofficial cease-fire which both sides need to regroup and replenish their military equipment.
So Putin still has 8,000 tanks...and how many troops?
It's going the way, how the American defence minister said:
Weaken the Russian federation, so they will never start a war of expansion again.
Good Lord how can they get any weaker, theyre losing to tiny Ukraine 😆
The Americans don't want to prevent war they want to encourage it because they're making so much money
@@dpelpal Ukraine isn't tiny.
Well, "never" is a long time. But not for the next 60 years or so would be nice.
The sky is dark!. Many believe it is easy!.
Leaders of many western countries think that they have not advanced enough, however they do not realize that the invaders had a year to mine and fortify themselves, they have the courage and high morale to achieve victory.
Morale? Russians??
Times Radio utter nonsense yet again.
this is getting redundant
It is frequently claimed that TH-cam is not blocked in Russia. If true, how does information like this not make its way through the country to some extent ?
Comrade when you in the GRU of the Russia Military Command or FBS, you watch all the You-tube you want and other social media to get what intelligence you can on all of your enemies.
While true that Ukraine hasn't fought in a co-ordinated effort within its own forces. They do have extra service members aiddibg them in developing this ability. Abd I appluad the Uk and France stepping up. Now, if we can get the rest if Nato applied force inventory dialed in on exactly whats needed and allocated.
Things go not well
our dads army led by blinken are a bit of a loony bin effort. Russia hopefully keeps patient with our troublemaker leaders.😂😂😂
Even with the Russian tank factories turning out new units, and rebuilding old ones, the Russian tank inventory has effectively gone. Russia needs to keep tank units at strength in both the strategic direction of China AND against NATO, AND have sufficient tanks to be viable as an invasion force for Ukraine.
As far as open sources go, the Russian tank factories are not efficient the way the old Soviet Union were, so they only have a handful of tanks in their Tank and motor-rifle divisions facing NATO and China. So at least as far as MBT's go, they are vulnerable, because as we have seen, even the newest models are not that good. And I don't think they have many new models left, and those that do exist are rushed to Ukraine where they die.
The entire U.S. Army has less personnel than the casualties Russia has incurred in Ukraine.....and that is worrisome in the extreme.
72000 with a population of nearly 70 million? that is both disgraceful and suicidal, we had more than that at the time of Waterloo when the population was a tenth of that! Not that Sunak will worry, I bet he will be back in India with his family if it all kicks off!
What happened to the Lithuanian monarchy?
The Kingdom of Lithuania was a client-state of the German Empire, and following Germany's defeat in World War I in the fall of 1918, the idea of a monarchy was abandoned in favor of a democratic republic.
We an ialand though... Why would we need a big army? Rely on allies for army and we provide the navy and the air force surely.
Yah the key elements to that technical advantage is airpower!!! And ukraine hasn't won is because of the B.S. OVER GIVING UKRAINE FIGHTER JET AND A'10 AND VARIOUS HELOCOPTERS....
but they can interrupt and delay the delivery of products of devastating products to Ukraine no?
I can see Putin moving to New York. He'll fit right in.
Cold War-era thinking saw the Soviet Union hang onto large amounts of older weaponry such as tanks or guns, knowing they would have some use in the future.
"Russia has a lot of tanks left over from overspending on defence during the Soviet era.
Reliable sources place Russian Tanks losses from the start of the conflict at 2,850 to the end of February 2024
Russia turned to its Cold War inventory to source the replacement tanks it needed in Ukraine, the tanks from this era were quickly refurbished.
Known examples of T-54 tanks - which began development in the 1940s - and post-war T-55 tanks were pressed into service in Ukraine, T-62 models, which first entered production in the 1960s, are also present on the front lines of this war.
Ukraine and the West never expected Russia to have any of these [tank] chassis still available.
Unlike the West, such Tank losses would be fodder for potential criticism, Russia can drive forward with plans to return areas to their right place within Russia, even if thousands of tanks are compromised in the process
Its great how we keep giving Putin our secrets ..
i am surprised "denazifying is an actual word and spell check knows it. I thought that was only a putin word.
Clean your camera.
Why? They're a Radio Station. Amazing they even have a camera.
Looks like he overcooked a pizza in there
@@luzr6613 - Yes, but they've expanded and are now doing video. If you're doing video, you might as well have a clean lands on your camera.
This channel is hilarious
Russian troll
That is why he’s been begging to sit at the table once again with Ukraine… his budget can’t afford wasting money…
Defcon 3
Is France invading England!?
🤣
And the Ukrainians have only lost 31,000? Sure 😭
testing...1 2 3 testing
Why they don't give us numbers o ukranian tanks losses? 🤫
Russia print rubles to pay salories. The do not know what will happen with value.
The woman in orange is a ventriloquist?
If u tell a big lie and kept telling it eventually people whove believe it
The biggest lie is the defense of the 'Russian speaking public' in Donbas.
Well presented Colonel!
It’s interesting these analyses of Russia’s military which I still believe is now overstated.
They’ve lost about 80% of their first line Tank inventory (T-90, 80, 72B3)
70% of their first line artillery and armored vehicles
50% of their combat helicopters
50% of their first line warplanes
Several AEWS and control aircraft
500,000 killed or wounded being replaced by poorly trained and unmotivated conscripts
Satellite imagery shows their reserve equipment storage yards almost empty
Meanwhile Finland and Sweden joined NATO brining 200 more combat aircraft, 50 combat helicopters, 100,000 more well trained soldiers and reservists and between them about 30 more warships and submarines
Combined NATO strength outweighs 10/1 in fighter aircraft, 3/1 combat helicopters, 7/1 in troops and about 5/1 in warships
Russia stands no chance of winning against NATO, especially after the creaming the Ukrainians have given them. As long as we keep Ukraine well stocked with weapons and ammunition, they will continue to degrade Russian military strength even further to the point where they cease to become combat effective at all
Lol, all you claims comes put of your own imagination 😂 that won't help actually and besides even the US had to admit that russian are much stronger now 😂 so desperation won't help and all thise " 80% " , " 70" ARE fake claims just to make up ur minds in west , remember shovels of russians 😂
What's with repeating things over and over . ?
Not everyone enjoys your level of mental acuity - repetition helps the other 99.9%.
A clip is used to advertise the program, and included here I guess.
@@simonfisher2239 He just kept making points and then repeating that over and over. very sad what journalism has come to
Practice is nothing like real combat. Deluded war monger.
Er det ikke et lidt forkert tidspunkt at promovere dansk fodbold med russisk hardbass/gobnik kultur - Eller er det bare mug?
I'm quite sure that Putin is quite aware of the size of the UK army !. 75.000 🤣🤣🤣
+ Common wealth Numbers...
I don't believe anything on this channel.
Then why watch it ? Unless it's your job. If you're in Moscow, be careful when you leave the building, you might be sent to the front line to evaluate first hand what is said here.
I HAVE FOLLOWED THIS CHANNEL FOR SOME TIME.VERY LITTLE HAS COME TRUE. I LEFT FAIRY STORIES 82 YEARS AGO. PERHAPS I HAVE NOT BECOME WISER-HUMOUR KEEPS ME GOING.WHAT WILL BE WILL BE! FINGERS CROSSED.@@gregorysurovoi3968
Russian fatalities are about 50000 whereas AFU dead are probably now over 500000 which is why they don't allow them to be counted. It is criminal for Hamish to peddle his nonsense
The misinformation is astounding
Don't explain to Russia how Nato may fight. Silly to explain this over the internet. YOU MUST BE MORE CLEVER.
Notice they don't tell you that Ukraine has suffered 1.5 million casualties with 500,000 killed😮
This was mistakenly reported in kiev's major newspaper a few months ago😂
If your including civilians maybe.
First of all you all need to forget what you know about warfare in this new age of Drone technology, quantity and quality of weapon systems goes out the door now that you can destroy million dollar weapons with cheap drones makes Russians mass theory obsolete. Ukraine has held them in check for two years and they have a third rate military. If we gave them more Bradley’s and A-10’s, Apache attack helicopters along with more F-16’s they could destroy the Russian military
Incompetence 😂
Who created the 500k Russian casualty figure?
its true, its not made up
@@timebundle Really?
@@timebundle And Ukraine have 1 300 000 KIA.
@@stephencalcutt8396 you can google. If you want, also Russia uses human wave tactics so it’s not surprising
@@martin8856 no, around 150k
Pootin doesn’t care
Their are lie damn lies and Times Radio.
Correct. Natondoesn't have that much manpower. Neither does Russia anymore...
I wonder what % of those books he's even looked at in the last 10 years? I'm going with 5%.
Not everybody rejoices in being dumb
Some people can rip through books pretty quickly.
Could be. Chemical weapons expert. British Army officer 23y. Commanding officer of UK Joint Chem, Bio, Radiological and Nuke Regiment, & NATO's Rapid Reaction CBRN Battalion. So of course he has a lot of books.
I've read under 5% of my own smaller bookshelf in 10y, Reddit & Twitter have wrecked my long reading.
Probably nearer to 0%. .PDF is the way to go, all these books demonstrate a person steeped in the habits of the old days. I'm 68, I try to throw out paper books, all these old white men in positions of power are a bit nauseating.(though I am old myself)
If Ukraine loses the EU will be very expensive to rebuild again, $150 billion in today's dollars-to 16 European nations between 1948 and 1951.
As soon as Putin saw the mighty western armies flee from the rag-tag Taliban army in Afghanistan he knew he faced no real threat from NATO..
Putin can't keep this up at all.
Anyone seen the most recent Simon Whistler video regarding losses on both sides? That video will really make you question the supposed 7:1 rates in Ukraines favour allegedly. I wish those stats were true but im really not convinced anymore
I would say its pretty close considering the other sources are similiar.
@@vancouver1261 pretty close to what?
@@LordBathtub 7:1
@@vancouver1261 watch the video I mentioned, its the channel Warographics. I hope the 7:1 is accurate but im not convinced
Combine Arms Maneuver? When was he a commander? The late nineties? That's old doctrine.
The principle still applies, regardless of what You want it called.
Russia's failure to combine even heavy armour and ground troops adequately cost them dearly earlier in the war, tanks & armoured troop carriers were knocked out in huge numbers.
MeThinks TIMES RADIO and Hamish are strangers to the truth what a load "Lies"
Ukraine was never a threat to Russia 🪆
Bretton-Gordon has no idea what he is talking about.
Exactly. He represents western military thought …..incredibly badly informed twaddle!
This probably indicates he's from the Lootenant General Igor Kuckooshenkov school of propaganda.
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Krasniy, Goluboy,Beliy = KGB. Nothing changes
@@21boxhead your mom told me that she is disappointed about you.
Why do you not change your name to( Trump Times Radio) you seem to be worshiping him so why not go all thee way.🙃
If Russia lost 500 thousand witch I don't believe then Ukraine must have lost a 1 million witch they havnt
Russia has just 500k in ukriane whileurkaine has 1 m ( said by zelensky) so huge losses and small army, who should run out of men ? But why is ukriane running out of men .. see , these are all bs
If you look at larger NATO engagements, you'll almost always see the US take the lead in the engagement portion of the operations. Should Russia decide to poke the bear, so to speak, many NATO nations will need to pony up more money for their own defense instead of relying on the US to bail them out.
AMERICA IS THE ONE WHO WAS PUSHING THOSE OTHER NATIONS INTO THE ALLIANCE
I'm not sure why Americans think you people keep coming to the rescue of the world and paying for it. Americans start and encourage Wars so that they can sell military equipment why don't you people understand that ? The Americans started World War I for god sake by selling military equipment and that's why they're always poking their nose into other people's water so they can sell more
Really?
Without the USA, (and excluding Turkey too), the rest of NATO spends over $350bn on its military. Russia in its new wartime economy mode budgetted to spend $160bn this year.
Its not the amount of money, its the lack of coordination between European countries in what they spend their money on, and their reliance on the US for key capabilities. The US military is the core force, and the other NATO militaries fit in around it - NATO is not designed to operate any other way, currently - because there is no equivalent EU-wide military.
@@marktrotter8971 so we've got a country that can't win a war by itself running NATO that's not going to work well
Why couldnt you say sushi or veggie smoothy. You have a bias of some sort.
Hey if putin lose so much Tank that occident said, why do he continu the war with Nato - Ukrain???
Ukraine is not in NATO. When Putin does call off his little war he will have to explain to the people why he sent so many to their deaths and gained nothing except that Ukraine will join NATO and the EU. That will probably be the end of Putin's career and just like Bibi in Israel he'd rather prolong a war that hurts his own country than see his career end.
Thankfully after discussing the matter with them my 2 nephews know exactly what to claim to get out of being called up! I can tell you the moment Vlad invaded I'd have left Ukraine faster than Diane abbots husband leaving her! 😂😂
So much for Ukraine. How about if someone attacks Your home, family and friends? Same policy - you run away?
The Russians simply aren't fighting in the way you're suggesting.. Just numbers? Really 😂
Pretty much - they don't have much else.
@@luzr6613 Actually think about what they actually have... Would you even know? 😅
hahaha...hahahahaha...
Lock him up, Donald Putin.
She is just chomping at the bit to interrupt the guy why ? I never understood bringing on a guest to interrupt and talk over him .
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