Thank you for calling it what it is, "discless," rather than the disturbing trend of calling it DIGITAL, as if the version WITH a disc was somehow analog, like it used VHS tapes or laserdisc or something. Lol!
Personally I agree, I would much rather buy a disk with a game on it, and ocassionally watch a film on a disk. At least have the choice. But Microsft seem to have been out for the disk even before they released the Xbox one. Remeber the issue at the launch event when they said you install from disk and never need it again, but can't resell them?
@@musicmonkey7676 Blame the entertainment industry for calling discless digital. Anyways, going discless makes sense. PC has done it for years, and it's about time console catches up. Plus not every physical copy is guaranteed to come with the full base game, then you have dlc on top of that.
Ugh! I get so annoyed at this trend for calling things without physical media as being "digital", as if there was an alternate "non-digital" version which was somehow analog. Guess what? CD's, DVD's or Blu- Rays store data DIGITALLY. It is not an analog vs. digital concept when digital data is stored in the cloud, a solid-state hard drive, a rotating hard disk drive, a CD, a DVD, or a Blu-ray. They are ALL DIGITAL. It is annoying. Does a Blu-Ray disc store information in an analog form like laserdiscs did for movies? NO!
@@superslammer It's more than likely possible. Disc and discless are the same model, same board, etc. Only discless doesn't have the drive and instead has a couple of extra bits; it's literally the same as if someone took their disc One S and removed the drive. It's also not that hard to source oem parts anyways, there's donor systems and various resellers online, and even if you can't source a One S drive, you can more than likely source the same oem drive under a brand name.
@@xaytana What Bill Sargent is referring to is that on the 360, every DVD drive has a unique key which is tied to the motherboard. So if the DVD player's drive key doesn't match the motherboard's DVD drive key, it won't work. If the Xbone has a similar system in place, then you would need an OS hack to be able to get it to work even if you have the right parts. It wouldn't surprise me if the OS has also been modified/updated to disable drive functionality if it detects that it's a SAD edition via some kind of flag alongside the serial number, etc.
@@tech34756 Yes. What you said. -- I just tossed an xbox 360 that some kids tried to "hack" and they flashed the dvd drive with some odd firmware that made it useless and I'm guessing they didn't write down the key. -- for a long time i was thinking there was a way to get a serial console hooked up to see the boot process and get the motherboard key, but i gave up on that and tossed it.
I am happy to, but I guess it's mostly computer components and and Xbox One S, which people are probably familier with. I am happy to anwer any questions if you have any?
Exactly! I think they missed a opportunity ther, by removing the drive and making an "add a second hdd slot" feature, without opening your console. My OCD goes nuts when I saw that empty sata connection. I bet it would sell like water in the desert.
You are of course, quite right. I think what I really mean was why does the machine need a scew in that position at all? It made sense when it also located an optical drive, but it's not like the there is any risk of the Xbox getting bowed out in the middle? I think I might have omimited it and the screw?
Unfortunately someone tried to use the optical disk drive from a xbox one s into the all digital edition xbox one s, it didn't work. Either it has to be married to the system like they said or they deleted the optical disk driver for the xbone s all digital
I work in a videogame shop, if we have to repair a xbox one drive, we have to swap the processor from the old drive to the new. If not, the drive wont work.
Why not try the BD Drive from the other One S in the Discless one S?? I've already seen a Teardown and they also had a second one and just could have tried it...
I`m courious to know what happens when you press the eject button on this version while its running a game..does it crash/quit the game or is the button just diabled??, meaning did they think about users may try that!?!
I don't think it would? A console with a drive doesn't when you are playing a downloaded game. That said, there it only one way to find out - on the case!
Why would the game crash (why crash?) or quit? You aren't running a game from the disk. The button just wouldn't have any effect, the interrupt is assigned to nothing.
@@a531016 Mine cuts in and out. I think some of the first batches of the kinect were flawed. Maybe its a cooling issue. Either way, I mainnly bought it just so I could use it to turn my TV on and off with IR. :)
@@superslammer Have you tried removing the connector out of the Kinect itself? Its a tight fit and awkward to plug back in, but mine seems to have been more reliable since I did that. Not that I really use it.
it isnt as simple as slapping a salvaged Xbox One S Disc Drive, you'd haveto deal w/ marrying the drive to the board. i can bet theres verry slight Firmware changes on the system just to identify this is an "Digital Edition" so it doesnt fail at bootup from a missing Disc drive(given even back w/ the OG Xbox and the 360, No Disc Drive/fried drive? No full bootup. so they cheapened out almost all the way. if microsoft designed the One S(Disc) systems to continue to function w/o its Disc Drive, then all the "All Digital" edition's would be is just the normal One S's w/ a new case.
Good call. The idea of voice control of an external set top box and TV is one of the reasons I went Xbox in this generation, but without the Kinect, it does seem pointless doesn't it?
Because it would cost more to design a new chip and casing with it removed, than it is to just keep it. The time to remove it was when they designed Xbox One S, that time has passed. The real joke is it on the Xbox One X as it doesn't support 4K input.
What would you do with these electronics parts? Tell us on - bit.ly/2E7Si1K
I think this discless Xbox One is very much an answer to a question nobody had asked... hey ho.
Thank you for calling it what it is, "discless," rather than the disturbing trend of calling it DIGITAL, as if the version WITH a disc was somehow analog, like it used VHS tapes or laserdisc or something. Lol!
Personally I agree, I would much rather buy a disk with a game on it, and ocassionally watch a film on a disk. At least have the choice. But Microsft seem to have been out for the disk even before they released the Xbox one. Remeber the issue at the launch event when they said you install from disk and never need it again, but can't resell them?
@@musicmonkey7676 Blame the entertainment industry for calling discless digital.
Anyways, going discless makes sense. PC has done it for years, and it's about time console catches up. Plus not every physical copy is guaranteed to come with the full base game, then you have dlc on top of that.
Today I saw 4 videos already from channels I thought were dead. turns out they just werent showing up in my feed :/
Ugh! I get so annoyed at this trend for calling things without physical media as being "digital", as if there was an alternate "non-digital" version which was somehow analog. Guess what? CD's, DVD's or Blu- Rays store data DIGITALLY. It is not an analog vs. digital concept when digital data is stored in the cloud, a solid-state hard drive, a rotating hard disk drive, a CD, a DVD, or a Blu-ray. They are ALL DIGITAL. It is annoying. Does a Blu-Ray disc store information in an analog form like laserdiscs did for movies? NO!
It's not about the analog aspect, it's about the physical part
You are spot on. I struggled not to call it diskless on a few occassions. I was struck by how digital it is. Not even an analogue audio out!
It's possible that they mean digital license.
Keep the cost at 299. Use the savings of not putting in a disc drive. Put towards a larger hdd say a 4 or 5tb hdd
Or put in a slot for a 3.5" SATA HDD.
@@NiHaoMike64 Its certainly a huge missed opportunity to have an SSD edition with a SATA drive bay, or even just dual-HDD.
@@alexatkin that would have definitely influenced people to go digital
Mod a DVD drive back in pls
That most likely won't happen... As with the Xbox 360, its most likely that the drive firmware has to match the motherboard.
@@superslammer It's more than likely possible. Disc and discless are the same model, same board, etc. Only discless doesn't have the drive and instead has a couple of extra bits; it's literally the same as if someone took their disc One S and removed the drive.
It's also not that hard to source oem parts anyways, there's donor systems and various resellers online, and even if you can't source a One S drive, you can more than likely source the same oem drive under a brand name.
@@xaytana What Bill Sargent is referring to is that on the 360, every DVD drive has a unique key which is tied to the motherboard.
So if the DVD player's drive key doesn't match the motherboard's DVD drive key, it won't work.
If the Xbone has a similar system in place, then you would need an OS hack to be able to get it to work even if you have the right parts.
It wouldn't surprise me if the OS has also been modified/updated to disable drive functionality if it detects that it's a SAD edition via some kind of flag alongside the serial number, etc.
@@tech34756 Yes. What you said. -- I just tossed an xbox 360 that some kids tried to "hack" and they flashed the dvd drive with some odd firmware that made it useless and I'm guessing they didn't write down the key. -- for a long time i was thinking there was a way to get a serial console hooked up to see the boot process and get the motherboard key, but i gave up on that and tossed it.
Bill Sargent These days the easiest way to get the key is to RGH it and dump the keys from the motherboard.
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Depending on the drive/circumstance.
As I guess most of the viewers are EE, would be nice a video talking more in depth about the components used in the design.
I am happy to, but I guess it's mostly computer components and and Xbox One S, which people are probably familier with. I am happy to anwer any questions if you have any?
@@a531016 Do you think it would be possible to get an in-depth analysis of how the mother board functions with all its parts?
they should have used that extra space for more storage space since it is a all digital version now.
Exactly! I think they missed a opportunity ther, by removing the drive and making an "add a second hdd slot" feature, without opening your console. My OCD goes nuts when I saw that empty sata connection. I bet it would sell like water in the desert.
the black plastic that remains from the disk drive is needed as if you look its also used as a screw guide
You are of course, quite right. I think what I really mean was why does the machine need a scew in that position at all? It made sense when it also located an optical drive, but it's not like the there is any risk of the Xbox getting bowed out in the middle? I think I might have omimited it and the screw?
TLDR: It’s the same without a blu ray drive.
Hahahaha, Yep!
Unfortunately someone tried to use the optical disk drive from a xbox one s into the all digital edition xbox one s, it didn't work. Either it has to be married to the system like they said or they deleted the optical disk driver for the xbone s all digital
I work in a videogame shop, if we have to repair a xbox one drive, we have to swap the processor from the old drive to the new. If not, the drive wont work.
@@kingwallop yeah that's what I thought...
Why not try the BD Drive from the other One S in the Discless one S??
I've already seen a Teardown and they also had a second one and just could have tried it...
I believe a Blu Ray Drive wouldn't work without some software modding. It definitely wouldn't be a simple plug and play.
Nice tear down but how the F Am I gonna build it back to normal 😤
I`m courious to know what happens when you press the eject button on this version while its running a game..does it crash/quit the game or is the button just diabled??, meaning did they think about users may try that!?!
I don't think it would? A console with a drive doesn't when you are playing a downloaded game. That said, there it only one way to find out - on the case!
Why would the game crash (why crash?) or quit? You aren't running a game from the disk. The button just wouldn't have any effect, the interrupt is assigned to nothing.
Correct, nothing happens.
Nothing😐... ... there’s just a sound from the button being pressed...😐 ... .... .... that’s it........
Is the new heatsink equivalent in performance to the regular S model?
@N. Siddhartha I'm guessing they found with all that empty space where the drive used to be that the chip ran cooler.
I still use my original xbox one white edition. I don't know if I would consider upgrading to the one s.
If if still works, i would keep using the original model, the Xbox One X is a better upgrade, but a bit more expensive.
I agree, I just wish my original Kinnect still worked too!
@@a531016 Mine cuts in and out. I think some of the first batches of the kinect were flawed. Maybe its a cooling issue. Either way, I mainnly bought it just so I could use it to turn my TV on and off with IR. :)
@@superslammer Have you tried removing the connector out of the Kinect itself? Its a tight fit and awkward to plug back in, but mine seems to have been more reliable since I did that. Not that I really use it.
it isnt as simple as slapping a salvaged Xbox One S Disc Drive, you'd haveto deal w/ marrying the drive to the board. i can bet theres verry slight Firmware changes on the system just to identify this is an "Digital Edition" so it doesnt fail at bootup from a missing Disc drive(given even back w/ the OG Xbox and the 360, No Disc Drive/fried drive? No full bootup. so they cheapened out almost all the way.
if microsoft designed the One S(Disc) systems to continue to function w/o its Disc Drive, then all the "All Digital" edition's would be is just the normal One S's w/ a new case.
If I can lay my hands on a One S with a fried mother board - I'll try swopping the HDD and Drive over, see what happens!
Why don't they take out HDMI in? This thing is not cheap enough
Good call. The idea of voice control of an external set top box and TV is one of the reasons I went Xbox in this generation, but without the Kinect, it does seem pointless doesn't it?
Because it would cost more to design a new chip and casing with it removed, than it is to just keep it.
The time to remove it was when they designed Xbox One S, that time has passed.
The real joke is it on the Xbox One X as it doesn't support 4K input.
the xbox "sad" edition.
I saw it referred to as that elsewhere after shooting the video - it seems tragically appropriate doesn't it?
Its a cut and shut job the xbox sad. I have a X and a gaming PC and the only thing my xbox is used for is 4k blu ray and exclusives.
*This edition sucks!*