I've watched a bunch of videos on the moeller technique and Tony definitely explains it the best. This was the first explanation that I actually understood
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Something that may help you. The up stroke is something that is often overlooked or people assume it's in there, it's a free note - also that upward snap should be relaxed & mostly wrist. Practice 2 strokes alternating into 3, it'll help strengthen that upward motion. Also, a single roll fingers w/ one hand, moeller the other, alternate.
When the sticks both hit at the same time (not a flam) it is called a "Stop". You have single, double and triple stops. This is done on instruments like a xylophone, marimba or a vibraphone.
Doing the moeller technique with both hands, that evenly, is way more difficult than he's making it look! lol! I notice that he also keeps his elbows pretty close to his sides, just like Dennis and Billy Cobham. John Blackwell kind of keeps his pointed out, probably because he hits things at multiple angles, to control the tone.
i don't know, but it isn't necessary. first do the stretch one hand at a time, and then try to do it with both hands. it is a bit awkward, but certainly possible, just try :)
@KingsofComedy I thought so! But yeah, it makes since that he'd play slower for his warm up video. I never go off blazin' in warmups. It usually takes me an hour to properly warm up and be at my best for a performance.
I've been practicing using these techniques, except I have been utilizing a pillow as my surface as Tony recommended. The only thing I can't figure out is how to practice double stroke rolls on a pillow. Any tips fellow drummers?
Lol, weird... I didn't know there was a such thing, before I was sort of doing it. Moeller is helping me out so much more with my left hand. Thankfully~
@apercussionist91 Yep, he was in marching band as well. There are pictures of him when he was young. although it wasn't neccesarily dci or anything. thats probably how he developed his chops
+ShaRMz6g Carl Palmer and Joe Morello played the fastest paradiddles I've ever seen. But i think paradiddles are great at slow and medium tempo, they lose their beauty at higher speed.
I just don't understand how the whole Moller technique thing works. Is it basically like doing a roll because when I'm doing it, it's exactly like the first thing he did with the wrist and i just don't understand it.
Man I wasn't dogging Tony, from a medical standpoint I mean. The longer you stretch the better, because your muscles become more flexible and relaxed. Stretching is very under-rated.
RLRR LRLL (normal paradiddles accenting the 1st note of the 4s) RLRLRR LRLRLL (double paradiddles accenting the 1st and 3rd notes of the 6s) RLRLRLRR LRLRLRLL( triple paradiddles accenting the 1st 3rd and 5th of the 8s) hope it helped you :)
For someone that listens too both jojo mayor and Tony royster jr a lot I would say that there is no comparing the two at all. They are both better than each other in their own genres of music. If tony tried to play dnb he wouldn't be able to touch jojo mayor point blank and simple and vice versa. So don't compare them because they play differently
1:27 when i did that in my home one of the stick went right out of the window flying and it hit hard on a thief who was trying to infiltrate my neighborer house lmao thanks tony!!
Classic mistake... You need to stretch AFTER your session not before!! You gotta do warm up exercise before your session to heat up your muscles and tendons and stretch only after to dissipate lactic acid in the muscles. Ask any pro athlete if you wanna learn more.
@inimicalODDITY well just so you know i didn't have to look up anything on wikipedia because i happen to know my stuff. and idk what your talking about with your graceful grace notes because i'v played quite a few in my day and they have always been low.... cuz thats how you play a flam.
Not the fastest paraddidles I've heard but still near unbelieveable..... Mike Macintosh (current battery director of the Cavaliers Drum and Bugle Corps drumline) can play them around 310 bpm, Tony probably played them around 230 or 240. But I wonder if Tony has been learning from some corps guys..... His technique looks like it and I'm surprised he still plays traditional.
@Audi0Phil Stretching before you play doesn't really do anything. There are some ways to warm up without touching a pad, but the actual act of stretching with the sticks won't get your hands warmed up. I stretch my back and such before a gig, sometimes my legs to get a bit loose. But stretching your hands before playing doesn't accomplish anything.
I've watched a bunch of videos on the moeller technique and Tony definitely explains it the best. This was the first explanation that I actually understood
MrJdstuff Understood but can't do it. hahahahaha
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I love you Bro!! You give me enthusiasm to play drums watching you!
I'm late to the Tony Royster fan club but all in. He's fantastic. That's for the stretching exercises those really work!
Someone with a brain finally posted something on a Royster video. Thank You.
Hes such a beast hes perfect in all his drumming techniques
thank you Tony
"Which is a dope technique..."
Dood
First stretch is amazing to do before you play. I've done it for years, and tell every drummer i know to do the same.
that warm up is better than me right now xD
this is a great drummer!!!
Well for someone that has played for over 22 years should be that good. His paradiddles rocked.
@Wowurgaylol he's by far one of the best drummers i've ever heard.
I know he's a busy guy but I'd like to take some lessons from him and just really learn what he truly knows. such a good drummer
i love how he called the moeller technique 'dope'...it is indeed dope
Those paradiddles blew my fucking mind....
TR jr you make your dad very proud.Thnx. for the tip. U Rule. Mike
Wish Buddy Rich could have seen this guy play. He would have been blown away.
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I've been working on the moller tech. for years, and I'm constantly trying to refine it!
Tony, You Da Man my little Bro!
Tony Royster is even amazing at stretching
Something that may help you. The up stroke is something that is often overlooked or people assume it's in there, it's a free note - also that upward snap should be relaxed & mostly wrist. Practice 2 strokes alternating into 3, it'll help strengthen that upward motion. Also, a single roll fingers w/ one hand, moeller the other, alternate.
what a perfect moeller....great tony
@TheDice2008 Could you elaborate? Thanks
beast
The paradiddles were cool, but when he did the doubles and triples at the same speed... Now that blew my mind.
awesome pointers! really like the stretches and 3 hit moeller technique w/ both hands
When the sticks both hit at the same time (not a flam) it is called a "Stop". You have single, double and triple stops. This is done on instruments like a xylophone, marimba or a vibraphone.
"The first thing I do is grab some sticks"
*puts sticks down*
o_O
what size of sticks was he using here?
Man!!! he is strong !! those strokes are screaming
"Grab some sticks" (puts down sticks) lol
lol
man preciate ya tony this is a very gud method and warm up
Oh well- anybody wanna buy a drumset?
Doing the moeller technique with both hands, that evenly, is way more difficult than he's making it look! lol! I notice that he also keeps his elbows pretty close to his sides, just like Dennis and Billy Cobham. John Blackwell kind of keeps his pointed out, probably because he hits things at multiple angles, to control the tone.
DOPE!!
if only i can play as good as he warm up, man i would go places
That made me warm!
great routine! as always
I agree...
that was the fastest paradiddle ive ever heard!
i feel like he was about to come outta of the screen and punch me in the eye...hes too good.
At 1:04, exactly how is that stretch accomplished? Is he double jointed or something?
i don't know, but it isn't necessary. first do the stretch one hand at a time, and then try to do it with both hands. it is a bit awkward, but certainly possible, just try :)
Awesome chops:)
Really cool vid man
When you're Tony Royster Jr., you can wear whatever mother fucking glasses you want to wear.
@KingsofComedy I thought so! But yeah, it makes since that he'd play slower for his warm up video. I never go off blazin' in warmups. It usually takes me an hour to properly warm up and be at my best for a performance.
nice!
Would be nice if he explained the Moller technique with focus on german grip vs french grip. The technique is different I assume?
The only thing that really works is the stretching part...can't do the rest.kkkkkkkkkkkk
4:39 I had my speakers cranked up, had to duck under the table from that machine gun!
I've been practicing using these techniques, except I have been utilizing a pillow as my surface as Tony recommended. The only thing I can't figure out is how to practice double stroke rolls on a pillow. Any tips fellow drummers?
didnt he make a video on this before?
Lol, weird... I didn't know there was a such thing, before I was sort of doing it. Moeller is helping me out so much more with my left hand. Thankfully~
oh! excelent
@apercussionist91 Yep, he was in marching band as well. There are pictures of him when he was young. although it wasn't neccesarily dci or anything. thats probably how he developed his chops
learnt a lot
did he ever march drum corp?
I didn't know paradiddles could be played that fast hahaha
ShaRMz6g Dude that ain't even fast...
Ok where's the vid of them getting played faster?
+ShaRMz6g Carl Palmer and Joe Morello played the fastest paradiddles I've ever seen. But i think paradiddles are great at slow and medium tempo, they lose their beauty at higher speed.
+FrustratedTurtle lol
Roberto Ricci joe morello faster than TR ???
Tony Royster still hear,,, yeh I haven't seen Tony Royster JR do much
SHOW OFF!!! Lol great stuff man!
I just don't understand how the whole Moller technique thing works. Is it basically like doing a roll because when I'm doing it, it's exactly like the first thing he did with the wrist and i just don't understand it.
Man I wasn't dogging Tony, from a medical standpoint I mean. The longer you stretch the better, because your muscles become more flexible and relaxed. Stretching is very under-rated.
That "thunk" on the pad is hella satisfying
the last video he did, he was trying to talki all agnsta, what happened?
Anyone know what Hat hes wearing?....
Dang... and that's just the warmup.
blast beats!!!!
RLRR LRLL (normal paradiddles accenting the 1st note of the 4s)
RLRLRR LRLRLL (double paradiddles accenting the 1st and 3rd notes of the 6s)
RLRLRLRR LRLRLRLL( triple paradiddles accenting the 1st 3rd and 5th of the 8s)
hope it helped you :)
Wait a second, how is this supposed to work without a surface that gives you rebound?
My leg certainly disagrees with hitting it.
It works on control so you're not just diddling everything
For someone that listens too both jojo mayor and Tony royster jr a lot I would say that there is no comparing the two at all. They are both better than each other in their own genres of music. If tony tried to play dnb he wouldn't be able to touch jojo mayor point blank and simple and vice versa. So don't compare them because they play differently
HEYYY my yamaha oak custom snare is in the background (the sparkly one)
1:27
when i did that in my home
one of the stick went right out of the window
flying and it hit hard on a thief who was trying to infiltrate my neighborer house
lmao
thanks tony!!
4:15-4:26 That was the fastest and cleanest paradiddle I have ever fucking heard. Holy shit that was sexy
Tony r Jr is a beast
So does Tony use fingers at all??
This is hilarious to watch in 2.0x speed!
tony royster has good technique
I love how at 3:41 he stops and says, "With no flams." He's kinda challenging you in a way!! :)
Classic mistake... You need to stretch AFTER your session not before!! You gotta do warm up exercise before your session to heat up your muscles and tendons and stretch only after to dissipate lactic acid in the muscles. Ask any pro athlete if you wanna learn more.
You give lessons to one of the best drummer in the world ...
+pa b I think every pro athlete stretches before a performance, in fact, stretches quite a bit... What's notable is that most people know that ...
wth was that at the end?
@inimicalODDITY well just so you know i didn't have to look up anything on wikipedia because i happen to know my stuff. and idk what your talking about with your graceful grace notes because i'v played quite a few in my day and they have always been low.... cuz thats how you play a flam.
I do that stretch slowly with a small dumbell, about 3 lbs is aq good weight. .
You can hear his strokes are pretty fuckin clean. Time to step up my drumming to the next level lol.
exelente bro´
nice warm up technique
Its better to stretch for about 20 minutes and then warmup with rudiments for about 30. You will get way better results.
i have that practice pad... but i cnt make it sound like that
@UKdrum1 his signature stick
p.s. those drum pads are kind of rare now
Tragedy Swiftz I have one
Remo practice pad? Why do people give these bad reviews?
@TheDice2008 Explain?
Not the fastest paraddidles I've heard but still near unbelieveable..... Mike Macintosh (current battery director of the Cavaliers Drum and Bugle Corps drumline) can play them around 310 bpm, Tony probably played them around 230 or 240. But I wonder if Tony has been learning from some corps guys..... His technique looks like it and I'm surprised he still plays traditional.
have you ever done a 8 on a hand
Yup
The powerstroke 3 on the snare drum behind him looks awkward.
2:06 ... "a dope technique that will allow you to be able to play...."
impresionante
Tony roster jn! Preciso falar mais nada.
4:15
@Audi0Phil Stretching before you play doesn't really do anything. There are some ways to warm up without touching a pad, but the actual act of stretching with the sticks won't get your hands warmed up.
I stretch my back and such before a gig, sometimes my legs to get a bit loose. But stretching your hands before playing doesn't accomplish anything.
Blast beats!
He made the Shyt look easy!
@jjjooo123456789 it was the fastest ive ever heard because i havent heard anything faster. duh!