I really appreciate the example and demonstration with the goal of creating awareness and increasing safety. But I wonder to what extent using a rachet strap changed the outcome. The rachet strap could be stretching or yeilding more than the synthetic rope and acting like a rubber band when you break it. By comparison steel lines are well known to fly back with alot of speed and force. Synthetic lines are encouraged for the fact it doesn't do that to the same extent. In other examples of synthetic lines breaking I don't think I've seen synthetic ropes wip back this hard. It might have been that they were using soft shackles but I'm not sure. Many of the examples I've seen of synthetic line failures actually happen at the drum and then fly away from the vehicle.
I have an 8K lbs come along jack which has a 3/8 cable. I have a long 3/8 cable I plan to hook to some longs to drag them about 20ft. Not sure what the strength of the 3/8 cable is. Problem with a come-along jack is you ARE standing right beside it pulling the handle manually. I've moved some pretty large logs before but now I'm curious, where would to put the weighted blanket. Behind me as I"m pulling the handle?
Looking at the slow motion, yes. It seems that if they put that blanket a lot closer to the hook (like they said they were supposed to), it would have done WAY better.
At least this dispels the myth that “synthetic line doesn’t store energy” and shows everyone that if that shit breaks it will still knock your head off
Josh i loved the video and I must take this time to ask you to consider sending me a souvenir from your production supplies since I don’t believe anyone would have made such a request. Please include a brand new cardboard josh too. Super GOD BLESS YOU
Never use any material that stretches in tension. It stores energy which is released on failure. Eg all lines and slings should be made of amsteel blue or equivalent non stretching materials. :)
Hey guys. You should go see the episodes from Ronny Dahl from 4 wheeling Australia on what what can happen with winches and snatch straps. They have literally stripped the inside lining out of the line dampener.
Never experienced it personally but I hear it's not pretty if your metal winch cable or XL metal D-rings snaps & turns into flying shrapnel. Some winches from WARN now come pre-wound with synthetic rope instead. And from Factor 55 ( which WARN now owns ) you can get the soft shackles, the fairlead and the flat style hook. Recovery Gear : ARB, Bubba Rope, GEAR AMERICA, Rhino USA. Maxtrax, Rototrax, Rhino USA and Tred Pro for your traction board needs.
@@johnmarcus2324 I broke my 17,000 lb winch rope last summer in Hot Springs ORV. I wouldn't want to have been hit by it when it snapped. It shot past the anchor about 50'. Probably wouldn't have killed ya but I bet it would have felt like getting whipped by a whip.
@@johnmarcus2324 ya man I almost rolled my Jeep when that line broke. Thank God I got hung up on a rock that saved it. Had my wife take the bypass to get out in front of me used her winch and mine to save the Jeep. Something simple turned into something serious really fast. Never wheel alone is very important.
I wouldn't want to ruin a brand-new set of Strapinni Ratchet Straps. Stretched out it would work like a tow strap/rope but a kinetic rope would be safer and much more effective. Bubba Ropes has a really good TH-cam video about using a kinetic rope.
What's with the ratchet straps? No one uses ratchets for recovery - they aren't built for it. It was a good demonstration about using line weights.
I really appreciate the example and demonstration with the goal of creating awareness and increasing safety. But I wonder to what extent using a rachet strap changed the outcome. The rachet strap could be stretching or yeilding more than the synthetic rope and acting like a rubber band when you break it. By comparison steel lines are well known to fly back with alot of speed and force. Synthetic lines are encouraged for the fact it doesn't do that to the same extent. In other examples of synthetic lines breaking I don't think I've seen synthetic ropes wip back this hard. It might have been that they were using soft shackles but I'm not sure. Many of the examples I've seen of synthetic line failures actually happen at the drum and then fly away from the vehicle.
Card board Josh almost took one to the sack 😂😅😅😂
Good stuff to know. Thanks for sharing...
He really dodged a bullet there 😂
We use a chain in the body shop when doing pulls on the frame machine.
I have an 8K lbs come along jack which has a 3/8 cable. I have a long 3/8 cable I plan to hook to some longs to drag them about 20ft. Not sure what the strength of the 3/8 cable is. Problem with a come-along jack is you ARE standing right beside it pulling the handle manually. I've moved some pretty large logs before but now I'm curious, where would to put the weighted blanket. Behind me as I"m pulling the handle?
Would like to have seen the same test with a SOFT SHACKLE???
INSTEAD OF METAL HOOK. 👍
I'm glad the jacket did good as that's what I have been using.
Moral of the story, don't use ratchet straps for winching. Use the proper straps and other equipment. Thanks for the video
Everyone needs to watch this! I’ve seen a lot of people on the hospital side of things and at the very least you should know that.
Great video for those who don't use the winch very often. That built up energy is a silent killer. Thanks!
Great video! Should you place the Warn weighted blanket closer to the hook? Would it have changed the outcome? Thank you!
Looking at the slow motion, yes. It seems that if they put that blanket a lot closer to the hook (like they said they were supposed to), it would have done WAY better.
At least this dispels the myth that “synthetic line doesn’t store energy” and shows everyone that if that shit breaks it will still knock your head off
Josh i loved the video and I must take this time to ask you to consider sending me a souvenir from your production supplies since I don’t believe anyone would have made such a request. Please include a brand new cardboard josh too. Super GOD BLESS YOU
Never use any material that stretches in tension. It stores energy which is released on failure. Eg all lines and slings should be made of amsteel blue or equivalent non stretching materials. :)
I feel like the more weighted blankets the less the hooks/shackles will fly so id just use as many as possible i guess.
Hey guys. You should go see the episodes from Ronny Dahl from 4 wheeling Australia on what what can happen with winches and snatch straps. They have literally stripped the inside lining out of the line dampener.
Never experienced it personally but I hear it's not pretty if your metal winch cable or XL metal D-rings snaps & turns into flying shrapnel. Some winches from WARN now come pre-wound with synthetic rope instead. And from Factor 55 ( which WARN now owns ) you can get the soft shackles, the fairlead and the flat style hook. Recovery Gear : ARB, Bubba Rope, GEAR AMERICA, Rhino USA. Maxtrax, Rototrax, Rhino USA and Tred Pro for your traction board needs.
People who believe synthetic winch line is safe to stand around while winching need to see this. The hook or anchor point will kill you still.
At least it won't stored very much energy.... most ratchet strapsa are nylon and very elastic
@@johnmarcus2324 I broke my 17,000 lb winch rope last summer in Hot Springs ORV. I wouldn't want to have been hit by it when it snapped. It shot past the anchor about 50'. Probably wouldn't have killed ya but I bet it would have felt like getting whipped by a whip.
@@Bigdaddyslasher thanks for the input .... never can be too careful !!
@@johnmarcus2324 ya man I almost rolled my Jeep when that line broke. Thank God I got hung up on a rock that saved it. Had my wife take the bypass to get out in front of me used her winch and mine to save the Jeep. Something simple turned into something serious really fast. Never wheel alone is very important.
Really good video! Will have my kids watch this.
Who uses ratchet straps for recovery?
I wouldn't want to ruin a brand-new set of Strapinni Ratchet Straps. Stretched out it would work like a tow strap/rope but a kinetic rope would be safer and much more effective. Bubba Ropes has a really good TH-cam video about using a kinetic rope.
They used straps to guarantee a failure for demo purposes.
The synthetic winch line should be the weakest link therefore only the rope would be recoiling.
Great video. Be awesome if you could do one using a come along
The Jackass into music was classic
Btw. You leave the sleeves to dangle and turn that jacket into a vest. To assimilate mr cardboard josh losing his arms.
Can you please film this again, but next time use a tripod? This is really hard to watch.
We had a run and gun setup at this shoot but we’ll keep that in mind our next ones.