So I tried playing KINGDOM HEARTS 3 In 2023...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2023
- As time has gone on, Kingdom Hearts 3 has looked worse and worse for many in the rear view mirror thanks to the myriad of spinoffs that came before it leading to an overly complicated tale. When combined with (before Re Mind), a stunning depletion of Disney bosses and Final Fantasy characters and you're left with a bit of an identity crisis. Still, I remember my time with Kingdom Hearts 3 well and even in my return to it, I found myself enjoying quite a bit about it.
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The non numbered titles are NOT spin-offs. The sooner people realize that the better.
Theyre still spin offs even if canon.
Facts
Yep and if you don’t play Dream Drop or Birth you’re TOAST
@@catatonic165they aren’t spinoffs as they all incorporate the story in the main releases. They aren’t self contained.
@@catatonic165that’s like saying only the numbered avengers movies are the mainline.
Part of the issue for me with tangled and frozen is square wasn't allowed to alter the story. So we got basically carbon movie copies, and also i might be in the minority on this idk but i hate the attractions. Its so disruptive
I believe that specific attractions should only pop up against specific giant bosses, then they might have been relieved better.
I personally never had a problem though, when they gave you the option to turn it off and give you a guaranteed form change.
I hate them too. I never used them after the first couple times.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 i think that would work a bit better
Tangled was allowed to take some very minor liberties, but yeah. Frozen *definitely* suffered the most from this. Which is a shame, because there could have been a lot of fun stuff there.
But yes, I think most people like attractions in concept, but they resulted in far too much stop and go during fights if you choose to go into it.
all the attractions and things make the game way easier than KH2 used to be
Calling the other games spinoffs makes me know exactly how this is gonna go lol
It’s “you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means” territory. All the entries feed into and develop the Dark Seeker Saga, introducing plot elements, characters and relationships that pay off later in the game and subsequent games even when it’s not the next release chronologically that has pay off (the Lingering Will post-game super boss in 2FM whose origin is shown in Birth by Sleep for example, or re:coded’s datascape being very important for Union X). Even the rhythm game sets up plot points and direction for future games, albeit entirely as post-final boss cutscenes.
Actually, according to the Merriam Webster dictionary, spin-off (when used as a noun, like in this case) is the EXACT word he should be using. "Something that is imitative or derivative of an earlier work, product or establishment"
The non-numbered titles are not sequels, as they take place in various points in the overall timeline, they do have significant relevance to the overarching main plotline of the Dark Seekers story, so they are NOT side-games, and they are certainly derivative, because their more contained narratives are all derived from/related to the characters and events in the numbered "mainline" titles.
Just saying.
@@jedirayden what about dream drop distance, it literally begins on the ending of kh2 and it finishes with the begining of Kh3, chain of memories doing the same between kh1 and kh2, or melody of memories now begining right after the ending of Kh3, they are literal sequels, I can give it to you with BBS, union cross and 358/2 days for example, as they do take place in different points in the timeline (358/2 days is a little weirder though as it happens in tandem with kh1, chain of memories and ends in the begining of the kh2 prologue), specially BBS and union cross, but BBS would be more of a prequel than a spin-off in the strict sense I think. But other than union cross and the rest of the mobile games I don't think any other really has a more contained narrative, as they expand on and explain the events that already happened on that point in the series or that were about to happen right after their release, without them you wouldn't be a little lost about tiny details, you wouldn't understand anything that was happening after in the story.
As far as I can think of and have seen, the only things that define a numbered title as such is the fact that sora is the main focus and only playable protagonist, a form of xehanort is the main villain and the most defining one, the kingdom hearts is summoned. I know in BBS xehanort kinda does it too (although it just appeared because he forged the defective χ-blade), but being a prequel it kinda makes sense, it works as a sort of Kingdom Hearts 0 in the timeline of the whole plot.
Its literally and definitively a spin off 😂😂 dont be that guy
It's not the fault of normiea if the way your preferred franchise labels their sequel games is stupid as shit
Wish they would go back to KH1 type of story, love how they mixed the disney characters with the overall story
Me too.. I still think kingdom hearts is the best one.. I don’t get the love for kingdom hearts 2, I mean the first couple hours you not even playing as sora.. still a good game but it’s 3rd on my list for the numbered games
@@bodacious117 Yeah first 1 is my favourite as well, just because i think it has the best story. After that it was basically always the same Disney story as the movies.
Really loved the worlds and secrets as well in the first game.
Yeah, when the plot was straight forward it was so much more effective. I just can’t get myself to care about any of these characters anymore especially in 3. I wish they would reel it back and make a new story that can stand on its own
@@bodacious117 imo the second nailed the gameplay aspects the best, but the first had the best story
@@bodacious117tbh the thing I didn't like about 1 was the gameplay. Wasn't as bad as chain of memories, but it was definitely the weakest gameplay across the mainline games.
The Final Fantasy side falling by the wayside is the biggest bummer for me. That was my favorite part of the collab in the original few games.
Agreed
agreed, that's certainly one of the issues with the series in the direction it took
The final Fantasy side of the franchise was never, and has never been a huge focus in comparison to Disney though. Nomura himself even stated this. At most they are glorified cameos. The FF Easter eggs that were in kh3 were literally no different LOL
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE old people just want their cloud and leon to gush over because their capabilities of understanding that KH outgrew finaly fantasy 10 years ago and is it's own thing now goes near 0
@DommeUG1 also some fans are a bigger fan of Final Fantasy or the old ones then Disney and everyone was quite hyped to see them Appear in Kindom Hearts 1
They added mechanics to lessens the attractions and more difficulty in the free post launch updates. One of which is Critical Mode. This was even before the harder content that RE:Mind added.
I think that the normal difficulty of KH3 is probably really good for kids, game reviewers, and other casuals, but critical is the difficulty level that gamers are really going to be want to be playing as. Hope you really get a chance to dig your teeth into the combat system in the Remind DLC!
im surprised hes playing yrs later not on critical with the reaction command settings off. these are updates that came out in the first yr of release if i remember correctly.
Yeah and those updates came out because of everyone saying the same things about attractions and the difficulty
@@dgoddanny6064 yea ik the game was easy when it first came out theres no reason to play on proud mode unless you want it to be easy years after lol
Personally, I'm of the opinion that the main story of 2 is also really easy with maybe 2 boss fights standing out.
I heard that KH2 was extremely easy on release until final mix like KH3 with remind.
I think KH4 would benefit greatly with a "Active Time Lore" feature like what FF16 had. It could help with the accessibility for newcomers trying to understand the story.
Greatly aint even the word
@@Valentien23it is though, but ain't isn't a word
I mean they had an entire compendium of characters, lore, and plot points that you can look at at any time in the pause menu.
All Final Fantasy games beside Dissidia are self-contained.
@@Cy2o9 ain't is a word, it's just part of southern vernacular.
I was one of those mad headed players that jumped in while i didn't know much of the story (i only dabbled in the series with the first one a bit and didn't play any of the others) it was really enjoyable for me, i loved seeing worlds like Monster's Inc, loved that growing up and Toy Story, i loved that too and i honestly had a blast with the game
Whoaaa hold on! You’ve played through the Roxas prologue in KH2 and you think the Olympus sequence in KH3 is slow?? They get right into the action! That’s what I appreciated most about it. You get a lot of mechanics right away.
I think that was actually the best intro in the whole series. No Destiny Islands gathering materials. No 3 hour intro doing minigames. They just got right to a Disney World too, didn't even bother with the hub world yet.
I genuinely like kh3. In fairness i have played most of them apart from mobile games, but i did enjoy the overall experience.
Is the gameplay at least fun compared to other entries?
I bought the 2.8 pc collection and 3 last month and I hope it’s not gonna be a huge disappointment.
I’ve always know the story and acting in kh is ass, but I don’t mind it cause the gameplay is fun.
So far I love 2.8’s gameplay
@juanaragon6112 get the KH3 ReMind. Apparently they added everything they left out which is normal for this game lol. I'm excited to play 3. I been looking at the combat and it looks fun. And they added all data fights and the secret boss fight and cutscenes
@@juanaragon6112yea kh3 is fun
@@juanaragon6112the acting story isn't bad. You're just delusional ❤
I would really love a video of a second playthrough of FFX. I just rewatched your older video, and I feel like if you replay it with some key things in mind that you'll learn that it's a masterpiece. The world of Spira helped me escape my rather traumatic childhood. I'm 30, and It still does that for me in difficult times. The music makes me weep. The characters, their personalities, the way they all interact with each other, it's perfection embodied into a 22 year old video game.
I remember the first time I looked at the cover. I was 7 yo, my older brother brought it home and he let me look at the case before popping it in. I was enamored and entranced by Tidus’ sword, the world, and the beach he was standing in. I still get that same feeling 23 years later when I listen to the ost or restart the game for the umpteenth time. Truly a masterpiece.
Yuna's speech at the end still hits me so hard every single time, even though I've played it multiple times since it came out on PS2. It's definitely one of my top video game moments to date
That’s on the list! Given the feedback, I think it’s only fair :)
@retrorebound8887 That's incredible!! Just let the score take you in and feel the emotion of the team on their journey. Do all ofbthe optional content and immerse yourself into the world and give us a 50 minute long video like the final fantasy 12 video. You're the best dude on TH-cam, I don't doubt it for a second. You bring a lot of good memories back to the gaming community.
I had high expectations for it and they didn’t meet them, but I liked KH3 a lot more than when I played it the first couple of times. I’m not a fan of the way they told the story. But it was good.
I remember being sick out of my mind and telling my mom I couldn't miss the midnight release for anything. Being the best mom as she is, she took me to get that game 🙏 it was the best few days home from school after that. Looking back on it I definitely shouldnt have went to a midnight release but hey I was 16 or something around then and super excited for some more kingdom hearts 💖 I also had high expectations that I didn't feel were met but toy story will always be a highlight of this game for me.
We needed those final fantasy moments and Maleficent!!
The first game was so good because there was such a vibe having the Disney villains all working together.
You lost me when you said Olympus was a bad world
Not everyone likes Olympus.
This was a series I always had trouble getting into. In any case, looking forward to your next videos. Gotta wonder if you’ll do Pikmin and FNaF retrospectives what with the new game and movie coming out
To me, KH2FM Critical Mode is my favorite action RPG. For KH3, I am happy to know that someone else deems the combat as "Musuo" style because in proud mode, I felt like I steam-rolled through all the enemies. I am super curious on how you think of the re-mind gameplay because I enjoyed those boss fights more heavily and the Osaka team did fine-tune the gameplay.
I know if it ain’t broke don’t change it kh2 combat was already peak 3 just pushed it back
Apparently, people killed KH2 "too easy" until it got patched in final mix with an addition of critical mode.
Combat wise though, KH2 had the A team while KH3 had the B team, so it was a bit worse. I think remind made the combat INFINTELY better and like form changes more than drive forms.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 In 2FM Critical Mode is easier to play than Proud Mode, though. It's just more punishing.
Overall I think KH3 is the better game between the two, even without the DLC combo modifiers and keyblades. Its combat system has a comparable amount of depth and it's a far better RPG. 2FM had an alright combat system, but the enemy design was consistently bad and the RPG elements were completely unfinished and poorly implemented (I sure love getting no rewards out of the Hades Paradox Cup, or the synthesis system being completely worthless outside of debatably four specific endgame items), so much so that on Critical Mode the developers basically said "Fuck it" and removed the RPG elements from the core experience, making the gameplay completely action oriented, which is bad design for an Action RPG.
I would never put any Kingdom Hearts game on the same level of quality as genuine masterpieces of the Action RPG genre like Dark Souls and especially vanilla Dark Souls 2, but if I had to choose one Kingdom Hearts game out of all of them, I would choose Kingdom Hearts 3. It has its own fair share of issues, but it strikes the balance between action and RPG far better than all of the other games in the series.
I would say it didn't go backwards, I say sideways @@thegamewin100
World of Final Fantasy Maxima is great. It’s like Pokémon but better than a lot of them imo lol
Dude you are awesome. First day subscribed!
I think I was too harsh to this game when it first come out... Now I experienced many other AAA games and they rarely reach the level of details and worldbuild of Kingdom hearts 3. When I was playing it 3 years ago I was expecting a great conclusion to the 20 years journey but I was let down. Now that Kingdom heart 4 is in development I becomes more accepting with Kingdom hearts 3 and excitedly waiting again.
Wow. Wasn’t expecting this video until KH4 was closer to release tbh.
Remind DLC (specifically Limit Cut and Secret Episode) was pretty awesome. Still play it every now and then.
I finally played KH3 last year and loved it. I find a lot of these games age well. Like I hated FF13 when it came out but loved it now.
Playing KH3 for like the 6th time RN. Probly my fav game ever.
I loved the first 2 games, and was so hyped for when this finally arrived at my door. But once I noticed that special attacks were based on Disney Rides, there was no longer any Final Fantasy characters, and then a no stakes storyline altogether, I was left very, very sad.
This reeks of someone who clearly skips the non-numbered titles. lmao
@@zeroskaterz92 Sure, I'll give that to you . I didn't own a DS or PSP, but I did watch lots of story recaps leading up to it. I just loved the reaction commands in 2, the various forms were fun and strategic to the battles. And the optional Sephiroth fight was always my highlight. The Disney licensing seems to have taken a forced heavy handed role in the KH3 development
@@joshuaortiz109 Why do you need to own a DS or PSP? They already bundle all their games for modern platforms years before they released KH3.
@@zeroskaterz92 there's a gap in time where you think KH was amazing, then you turn into a jaded 16 year old who only wants to play COD and Skyrim, that's when those games came out in my lifetime. When 3 was announced I was at an age where I was nostalgic and excited and just wanted to play that and not the handheld versions, hence the TH-cam recaps
The Disney rides can be turned off and final fantasy was never a huge focus in the series in the first place.
And what do you mean no stakes??? 🤣
I just finished this game. I am 100% convinced that much of the sour public opinion on this game is due to two factors. One is nostalgia. The other is overhype.
KH3 remind is so good, the boss rush is the best one in a game ever imo. The yozora fight is a masterclass of boss design. But KH3 launch experience was a much different game. The patches helped a lot with the new abilities and the addition of critical mode. Also at the time, the secret ending and the epilouge were a patch.
You just had to be there at the launch of KH3, fans had waited since KH2 for KH3. KH3 also leaked a month and a half early so many people had to abandon social media. It was a wild time, I never had felt a launch experience like KH3 for any other game.
A masterclass in boss design 😂😂😂😂
Wowie, that in a nutshell. Is ridiculous.
I preordered it at GameStop so that I could play it at 9pm and not 12am. That place was packed, when mostly I went into GameStop and it was a ghost town. Everyone was really excited to get it. I haven't seen a game launch as exciting since...
Is KH3 retro now?
Whats the name of the theme song 0:00
I had too much hype and was dissapointed with some parts. The Re Mind DLC was really good at fixing some of my complaints. Over time I have grown to forgive the game and just be happy they somehow didn't give up on making a third game after writing so many characters into the story.
All “Kingdom Hearts 3” did for me was make me wish we could get a “Verum Rex” game with Tetsuya Nomura’s original vision for “FF13 Versus”…
Yup, you are one of the suckers that Nomura is trying to bait. Good job buddy.
Think you can do a video about the Max Payne series?
I just got the DLC and having a pretty fun time. Don’t think I’ll be able to compete the data battles though. So I started a NG+ on critical and turned on some easy codes. Mostly the ones that recharge things like magic and the focus gauge. It really feels like a more balanced challenge now.
If people think KH is complicated I'd hate to hear their reaction to something like guilty gear.
I do think you playing the game on proud mode and calling for a little more difficulty is unfair. Especially when you're clearly not playing with the pro-codes which allow you to make your own difficulty.
I also find this review completely unfair to 3 because your reviews for 1 and 2 are based on the final mix version. Re:Mind is the final mix version that's included in most major releases of the game now. It'd be like reviewing the original Japanese versions of 1 and 2 and ignoring the content added in the international+final mix release.
KH2 is still the peak. KH3 had so much hype behind it, and it ended up really disappointing me. The main plot shoved aside for 90% of the game until the very end left a very sour taste in my mouth
Literally every Disney world was important for the plot and built up to the final hours
I miss the proper Disney villain boss fights, it helped me better immerse myself in the worlds. I need to play reMind but traded in my ps4 with my completed save data and thinking of having to beat all these boss fights again feels like it’s not worth my time
I really want to play this for myself.
All in all, I enjoyed Kingdom Hearts 3 but man did it have some inexcusable omissions. I'm also tired of scrapping power systems that worked so freaking well. Bring back the forms, wisdom, valor, limit from the remix, master, final and anti form. The first time I activated anti form I flipped my shit. Being able to dual wield as Sora was fucking awesome.
agreed, though KH3 killed my interest and returning to the series, love the old games still but after DDD and a Fragmentary Passage and the direction the series was going ending with KH3 i just can't do it anymore, i would love them to return to form but i don't see it happening
Keyblade transformations are better
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE to each their own, i live drive forms better cause the different styles, the keyblade transformations are just so big and intense
"I tried playing a game two years after it came out." I know it's been more than two years, but come on.
Great video
never would've imagined that a single entry could make me lose interest in a series ive been a lifelong fan of, but here we are
When he made this video. Critical mode was available.
Yeah. He said the game was too easy but didn’t play the hardest mode…. that seemed off
I mean, Critical Mode isn't that difficult either. It's harder in terms of numbers, yeah, but what made KH3 so easy was it had virtually no mechanical-depth. Too many i-frames, most enemy attacks barely needing effort (if any) to avoid, timing to do most anything meaningful being too forgiving, etc etc.
I loved the first few hours of KH3. Olympus and the remodeled Twilight Town were FANTASTIC. And getting a feel for the new features was so much fun. Toy Story was a joy ride too but everything after just fell completely flat.
Story was average, I had a little more mileage on the gameplay than others but still inferior to previous titles
Monsters Inc, Big Hero 6, and Toy Story were THE best Disney worlds in regards to fusion of different properties and overall story. Frozen, Tangled, and Pirates on the other hand had to be the WORST in the series. Olympus was middle of the road, but made a good first Disney world.
Besides story though, ALL of the Disney worlds were filled to the brim with things to see, do, and explore compared to other games.
It has the highest highs and the lowest lows.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 I think Pirates was better than Big Hero 6. I honestly don't remember anything about it other than flying Baymax. It was awkward though that Jack Sparrow just exits the story and somehow we are teleported to the finale of At Worlds End for no reason. If you had never seen the film you would be so confused lmao.
@@apollyon9946 Story wise, I didn't like Pirates that much. Exploration wise, it's my favorite world in KH.
Ive played multiple times of the ganes since ps2 new kingdin hearts, and ive had no problem understanding the story , it wasnt confusing one bit
Something I’ve learned to consider when comes to game development is the internal changing of hands from one dev to another. Cuz the team behind KH3 were the team that developed BBS and DDD (the Osaka Team btw), while KH2’s team were scattered about working on other games. Doesn’t give the base of 3 a pass for not feeling as tight, just provides context for those who weren’t watching the game’s development closely. I’m personally hopeful for KH4, because Re:Mind with its new combo modifiers and bosses, showed how the Osaka Team is improving and responding to feedback. Not an ideal situation overall, but I’ll take willingness to improve over stubbornly staying the course any day.
Also it’s unfortunate that you’re not interested in 3’s Critical mode, as it adds an ability that turns off Attraction Flow (among others). If you do decide to give it a try, the challenge declines as you level, so most of the difficulty will spike early on but diminish the further you progress.
Why do people still act that there was nothing between the release of KH2 and the release of KH3?
We got gams that continued the story from where KH2 left off, they're NOT spin-offs, they're all mainline entries, they just aren't numbered beacuse of the style of game they are.
Sure, the wait for a numbered entry was pretty long but it's not like people had to wait 13 for a continuation.
I bought this game at launch and completely fell off at the frozen level. I'm thinking of going back and replaying the series.
kh1 and 2 are God tier masterpieces. Especially the newer remix hd versions.
@kamenogi4494 Now I wouldn't say GOD TIER MASTERPIECES!!! But they were good. It's just kinda weird when people compare them to Base KH3 instead of it with remind(which is the final mix equivalent) that fixes a lot of issues fans have.
yeah I also thought the mini games here were so fun that it felt weird lol
Why is he saying Star Wars is confirmed for KH4 as far as I know there’s only a bit of speculation based on a very small detail in the trailer, am I missing something ?
It’s only speculation yeah but it’s very likely to be true
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE makes sense it’d be extremely fitting for the franchise tbh
Cmon now.
Well there is an AT-ST foot in KH4's announcement trailer
I started the kh games in 2005 when I was 12 years old. I was 25 when kh3 came out. I’m happy I played kh3 and finished the arc I started that honestly impacted my life, especially in the younger days. Was it the greatest game I ever played? Nah. Not even close. No kh game will ever impact me the way kh2 did but I’m happy I got a happy ending I wanted for Roxas and Axel as their story was always my favorite. I also wonder if I didn’t enjoy kh3 as much bc I am older now and the child like wonder for the world of kh isn’t quite there the way it used to be but I just replayed all the kh games this year and kh2 is still so freaking good and makes me feel a type of way lol I’ll play kh4 someday I’m sure but I really just don’t think any future game will be as good as 2. Biggest complaint tho, where tf were the final fantasy characters!!!! Bring them back Nomura!!
If you didn’t think the final fantasy characters were in the game you clearly didn’t play the remind dlc, which is where they appear. And final fantasy has never been the reason most people like or care about kingdom hearts, I love final fantasy and I did not ever play kingdom hearts for that reason.
Nomura said that the FF characters weren't needed in KH3 specifically because he had so many other character stories to wrap up.
Might see them more in future entries.
The problem i have with this series is that i love the numbered entries however the spin offs (or not spinoffs) are completely different styles of games that i dont enjoy playing, so im punished as a fan because i miss a lot of the crazy plot simply because i dont want to drag myself through games i dont like to understand the ones that i do. I still enjoyed KH3, however the plot was all over the place for me. I hope they do a soft reboot and keep numbered entries and side game plots seperate.
Missing link the next mobile game is confirmed to be very important for KH4’s story. All the side games are important and always will be
If there was any games I didn't want to play I would just watch a let's play it was the closest you could get
I also missed the Hundred Acre Woods mini games.
played it last month. amazing still.
I actually enjoyed kingdom hearts 3, completed it.
I honestly didn't even finish KH3. The story was just so confusing that by the time I got to the Frozen world I kinda gave up. The entire point of RPG's, for me at least, is to immerse myself in the world and it's impossible to do that if i keep trying to figure out wtf is going on
Did you played elder ring
@@BardioTheGoat nah, I'm not really a fan of souls style games
You didn't play all the other games lol
I still don’t really get what people thought was confusing about the game. Even if you didn’t play the previous games, the plot was pretty simple. The big bad and his organization are back. Sora has to bring back some lost friends to fight them. If he doesn’t do that; they target the worlds and destroy them anyway. So classic good vs bad. That was pretty much it. All the lore stuff on top of that doesn’t mean it wasn’t pretty straightforward at the fundamental end of it all.
Only played 1 and 2 and only just got this, i lived the first 2 so looking forward to playing this
I just beat the game yesterday. They pirates of the Caribbeans keyblade is by far the best weapon to use
As someone who has kept up with every single real ease in order, KH3 is really rewarding. My only gripe with it is that it spends more time on set up than wrapping up the current saga but i am satisfied with the product we got, even before Remind. I will admit that the series itself is awful at catching newcomers on. If you’re new, look up the release order, and experience it that way, even if its in video form. Even the HD remixes puts 358/2 Days before KH2 which is inaccurate lol
Days being before 2 is inaccurate, but I find it doesn't really hurt the experience.
Putting Days before 2 wasn't an accident, so Nomura must really feel like people should watch it first.
I think Nomura wrapped up everything in the Xehanort Saga, just not as beautifully as we hoped.
He was probably pushing the next saga since it seems like he thought this one out a bit more.
Even then, people should just play 358 and ReCoded in an emulator. Watching the cutscene movies instead of playing them will completely ruin your experience with their stories, especially for the former. Every single person I've seen who watched the cutscene movie for 358 did not care about anything that was happening in the story, and were more likely to laugh at it.
I played the series by release. The not numbered titles are not spinoffs, they are direct continuations to the overarching story. Yes they aren’t direct continuations to the timeline, but they are directly connecting the information given from one to the next. If you follow that (which is how they were created I’m guessing), then the narrative is relatively easy to follow. Go into it without other’s forcing their expectations on you and you’ll have a blast with the story. If you pay attention to the story, it’s overall a very simple story. Sure it can’t be summed up in a couple sentences but it is by no means that convoluted as so many people claim. The only “spinoff” KH title (which still isn’t a spinoff as it is relevant in 3 in a major way) is the one on mobile that is actually a set-up for KH4. Dark Seeker saga titles have no spinoff titles. Glad you enjoyed the games Matty! I know KH3 didn’t live up to the hype but it couldn’t possibly after over a decade worth of waiting. Hope you keep enjoying KH as it goes off into it’s next saga!
The delivery is very convoluted. The story itself is quite simple.
If you pay attention everything is explained without any issues. But I see a lot of people who don't and complaining that it doesn't make any sense.
I started watching a let's pay called "story mode" and the dude was skipping cutscenes left and right. No wonder they can't understand anything.
Lowkey the only things that I think are genuinely convoluted in the series so far are the way it handles time travel and the way KH3 ReMind in particular handles the Power of Waking (the ReMind Episode made my head spin and certain parts of it honestly added more questions than it answered, and of course it also retconned some of the main story events, like the battle with Saix, so that didn't help). I haven't had issues following along with anything else. The people who think the story of the Dark Seeker Saga is "too complicated" have low media literacy. These games are made for kids.
I honestly love this game, but man when you need to watch a 45 minute video to understand everything that is happening in 3, it’s a little out of hand. Thanks for the great content Matty God bless!!
Sora teaming up with Lightning would have been CRAZY
You skipped most of the games
For me, Kingdom Hearts 3 was the near-pinnacle of the franchise. I absolutely loved it, and played through its entirety twice so far. It lived up to and, in some ways, passed my expectations.)
If it weren't for my backlog that I have, and am making my way through, I'd have played it a few more times already.
Definitely going to play through it again (the whole series, actually) after the *Kingdom Hearts 4* release date announcement. (I replay the entire series before every new entry comes out. Kingdom Hearts is one of my most favorite franchises of all time.)
Oh wow wow wow wow. Wow. Clicking on this was so easy, barely an inconvenience.
They lost me when Phil was completely silent on the Hercules level.
As a long time KH fan (got into it with KH2 and have gone through all of the collections since) and KH3 is probably my third favorite game (1st being KH2 and 2nd being BBS). I really loved the combat, it felt like a culmination of so many systems from previous games and gave you so many fun options to just cool shit happen like Keyblade transformations, strengthened spells, team up attacks, and the Attractions.
And most of the worlds are bangers. While it's disappointing that quite a few worlds are just the movie, a lot of worlds gave unique narratives like Toy Box, Monsters Inc, and San Fransokyo. But my favorite part of these worlds are just how large and lived in they all are, it's no longer just a series of boxed off rooms connected together, now you have Black Flag as a single world. It was just so much fun to go through these worlds (except Frozen's world, that was a miserable experience the whole way through).
But, as fun as KH3 IS, it's far from perfect when it comes to pacing and especially narrative. I really wish they could incorporated more of the main storyline throughout the Disney worlds (like KH2 did with the attack on Hollow Bastion). Instead we get Sora and co. messing around in a Disney World, a cut scene happens teasing the plot, Sora needs to gain the power of waking, and off to a new Disney World. Rinse repeat for 8 WORLDS. Then the plot finally happens for two more worlds and credits.
In this way, base KH3 is very unsatisfying when it comes to it's end game and finale. All these storylines and characters that have been built up for over a decade and it kind of ends with a confusing wet fart. Though I don't know how much of that comes down to my lack of knowledge when it comes to the mobile games side of the narrative. But that said, the Re:MIND DLC fixes most of my issues from the base game climax (with my biggest criticism being that you are basically playing the climax 3-4 times thanks to all of the time shenanigans) and I hope that whenever the KH3 remaster comes out that the Re:MIND ending will be incorporated into the base finale. That said, I can't really comment on the other parts of the DLC as the Organization XIII boss fights kicked my poor Lv 50 ass so I didn't get to experience it outside of watching the cutscenes on TH-cam.
In summation, KH3 is a flawed but super fun game to play and explore, with a lot of spectacle to keep you glued to the screen. Kingdom Hearts 3 is a game that should be every self respecting KH fan. But that's just my long winded take.
Man KH3 is my favorite in this franchise. I love the massive worlds(toy story is my favorite), the awesome combat, the gummy ship, the key-blade war, and the cooking mini game(I always make Ratatouille 😂). I give this game a 9/10.
yikes
Wow now I'll never not be sad about Zurg not being in toybox 😢😢😢😢😢
narrative is easy to understand if you played them in release order, if you didn't do that intially then well your likely gonna be stuck in the confused camp
It's sad that it took an entire console generation just to get a legit sequel to kingdom hearts 2 but got an ass ton of spin offs instead and not having any ff characters in 3 was an attrocity
Sequel to kh2 was dream drop distance
Really wish people would stop saying there are no ff characters when they literally exist at the end of the game. And also I don’t know anyone that ever cared about kingdom hearts because of just the final fantasy cameos. They seemed out of place and out of character from their original final fantasy versions.
I still love this game regardless of how people feel about it the combat is great smooth and you have a ton of options
I’d like to see you play Ghost Rider on PS2.
Can’t wait for kh 4 even if it’s gonna take 5 years
As someone who has never gotten into KH, and has played pretty much all of them in the last 6 months, I think 3 might be the best one. Granted, I'm plaing on Critical, and I have switched the attraction for form changes, and even still I wish the game was a harder (I'm on the Caribbean level, and the harderst part was the beginning right at the Toy box because I just didn't have any health). But all in all, Ithink this one has had the best Disney worlds and overall plot pacing (This might be the biggest hot take here). In general I think disney worlds in every game feel like filler between the plot, and in general this one also does, but they made most of them at the very least interesting to play (except Frozen, got I hate that world). Oh, and gameplay-wise I think form changes are the most genius Idea the series has ever had ever since shotlocks
The Disney worlds in 3 are some of the most significant in the series. And the only games where I can get the filler argument are chain of Memories, KH2,and Union cross, but the rest of the games use the Disney worlds well
It’s by far in my opinion the most fun and data battles are easily way better than KH2’s
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICEYeah KH2 had a LOT more filler within the worlds. Honestly I think some of the second visits were a bit unnecessary. However each game did give a good reason for a visit. KH1: had to close the keyholes. KH2: Looking for the King & Riku. Plus stopping the 13 & maleficent. KH3: Sora has to train himself for the final battle, get the power of waking, & of course stop Organization 13. So in conclusion I don’t know why some people got so mad at KH3.
I just think overall the game is disappointing. Before they added different combat animations Sora had really boring combat/combos. Post launch support wasn’t that good either and they didn’t add any extra cool key blades besides two that should’ve already been in the game to begin with. The final world isn’t explorable like the others going through waves of hard enemies to get to the final boss. The worlds do not have enough difference from their movie counterparts making them extremely boring. No original worlds besides traverse town and the very last one and it’s not even explorable!!! They bring back the colosseum but no tournaments? It really sucks man I was so excited and it has so much missed potential. They also dumbed down the combat too taking out reaction commands, and the game is extremely easy too. It was also a missed opportunity where in 0.2 with Aqua you could actually customize her some and her clothing. Why was that not in kingdom hearts 3? It would’ve been awesome to be able to change the main casts look. They could’ve leaned more into the rpg elements too and added more like certain equipment pieces giving you different moves for combat and stuff like that.
Aside from the two instances of the train, I really wish there was a way to completely disable attractions. The constant having to cycle down past them to get to the reaction commands I ACTUALLY wanted was frustrating. And more as a personal note, I was used to the movement from KH2. Compared to that, KH3 combat and movement felt super choppy and stiff.
Yeah the attractions were a bit too much, ended up finding myself barely using them towards the latter
Kh3 for me is like a basic kh1 if it was made today it’s fine but there are other kh games that are better.
WHAT. KH3 is way more fined than kh1.
As excited as I was for Kingdom Hearts 3, there was also part of me that kind of felt like it was a bit of an obligation more than anything. Loved the first two games and really didn't dive into any of the spin offs outside of Chain of Memories on the GBA. I do think it's a very strong entry in the series. A lot of the worlds still feel claustrophobic with running through corridors but the worlds where it does open up like Toy Story or Big Hero 6 are amazing. I mean Pirates of the Caribbean is basically AC: Black Flag lite and I love it for that.
That said, not sure I would continue on with the series. Not sure I care where the story goes from here and there's a limit in the type of worlds I would want to see going forward. Even Star Wars doesn't really get me excited cause I would prefer seeing Sora and co team up with something like the Rebels crew. Kind of like how Big Hero 6 is Marvel adjacent but not the MCU. Don't need to see Donald get in a argument with Han Solo. I just don't.
i'm with you there, though i've played every entry aside from Union X and melody of memories i just don't think i'll be returning to the series ever again
This was my favorite game in the series amd I played all of them. But considering I played them in like last two years I was super happy how in 3 I'm not dealing with pixels. Also story and combos were great and I like it when i don't have to grind too much. Unlike in 2 where the final boss fight just neverr ends. Where're your remind and melody of memory revies?
Story was too childish and felt way too "Disney" instead of "FF with Disney characters" which is what most of us loved about 1/2. Gameplay was super fun and the story was still good(its KH), but they toned down the seriousness and grim feel that the others had sometimes.
They def realized their mistake and KH4 looks to be the opposite of 3 in terms of story. All they have to do is basically make KH2 with 3s combat and its a 10/10.
KH3 was such a treat after the long wait, not even since 2. The title had been teased as early as 2012 with DDD, and for a while we only had the remasters to hold us over, even if they were appreciated.
Like you said, it's fairly easy, but I very much appreciate that like you said, it's more a problem with the game giving you access to so many tools, even if some of them aren't as balanced. I personally would prefer a game offer me options and be easy to exploit than a game be tough but have little to offer in terms of strategy. The Final Fantasy aspect is definitely a contentious one for a lot, but I think I didn't mind it, in hindsight a lot of the plot important stuff can be easily pushed towards the original cast (which to people unfamiliar with their games, the ff might as well be original to be fair. Was this issue a problem when we got TWEWY cameos in DDD instead of the usual FF when that came out?). The FF really is at it's best to me when they really integrate it into the Disney, which is to me why the Olympus stuff tends to be the best example of it, with Cloud, Auron, and Zack all explicitly interacting with the characters around besides Sora, Donald and Goofy. And for all the FF characters' worth, KH3 was the first and only game to have a cactuar appear outside of a gummi ship easter egg and the signature victory jingle.
The gummi ship itself also has a really cool bonus boss, and I appreciate that, like Julius in DDD, it's an out-there pull, being the Schwartzgeist from Einhander, a PS1 era shooter Square made. Apparently some of the staff actually worked on that game so they snuck it in 3, and I really gotta admire the creativity and uniqueness of it all.
It was a pretty hot topic for a good few people, but I don't think I could ever call KH3 a bad game. Like you said, it mostly had some absurdly large expectations, but I do think the title doesn't help either. As much as it was satisfying to finally get that title out, it kind of does do a disservice to the importance of the rest of the games without numbers. It's crazy to think how much stock people are willing to put into a game having a number in the title, imagine if Castlevania fans were waiting for Castlevania 5 when there were so many titles out there like Symphony of the Night or Aria of Sorrow not using a number. Or how Crash had several games, including some that even stuck closer to its original formula (albeit with varying levels of success), but the newest just said "nah, I'm Crash 4." It's just really interesting food for thought, I guess.
KH3 was such a let down its hard to believe how bad this game was. The story was the worst ive seen in any AAA game. Sora is just like. Eh let your heart be your guiding key cuz i dont care what we do. Ya this game was bad. In almost every single way.
@@Tranquildbeats Nobody asked for your garbage opinions
@@Tranquildbeatslowkey a oversimplification of the game
@@Tranquildbeatsit has the best fucking gameplay with mediocre bosses and the best world design, it's not bad
Kingdom Hearts has never disappointed me unlike FF in recent years 👍
FF 7
That 335 def fuckdd up lol that car is making significantly more power
As someone who was there since 2002-2004 I will say upon initial release I was rather disappointed. I remember finishing the game next to my gf at time and she saw the look on my face as the credits rolled and i told her I just felt nothing after beating that game that I had been waiting for for yearrrrrrs. It just felt like so much was left on table and the gameplay at time didn’t wow me how I thought. The DlC came out and it helped the overall experience and I think it’s the best thing to happen for that game but I can’t come back to play this one fondly like I did the others. I feel like even now there needed to be more. Hopefully we’ll get that w/ kh4 w/ new setting and being in “reality” but I don’t think I will have that same glow during the wait.
I love Kingdom Hearts 3. To me, it's a 9 out of 10. My issue is we should have gone back to the Disney Worlds twice like in KH2; Toybox should made you explore Andy’s house, more Final Fantasy characters besides Restoration Committee, and at least two-three more Disney worlds ( and not put it in the trailer but leave it as a surprise ), and Pirates should have been the last world Sora goes to at the end instead of Quatradtum. Quatradtum should have been for KH5.
What ruined it for me about KH3 was what they cut out of the game. One thing that sealed the deal for me was this one cutscene in Hercules world where Xigbar is talking to someone and legit, it just randomly cuts out in the middle of the scene. The dialog and music just cuts out, not even fades out. I remember I got the deluxe edition of this game at launch and thought that was a bug. I found out later that it was intentional and meant to be that way. And there are other scenes that just get cut in the middle just to be completed in a DLC.
It was done like that on purpose. There’s even a quick visual effect and sound effect
He was talking to the Master of Masters, it was setting up a connection between plot points from Kingdom Hearts X and Kingdom Hearts 4, it's revealed in the very last cutscene of the game that Xigbar is Luxu and the black box Maleficent was looking for was the Master of Masters' box.
We still don't know why she was looking for it or what's in it.
It had very little to do with the Xehanort saga they were currently trying to wrap up so you can say it was more of a teaser for the next saga with the new main antagonist.
yeah alot of stuff like that in KH3 through me off, i might be the only person who thought the ending was terrible, no offense to anyone, just the way everything let up to multiple cutscenes and then Sora losing in a cutscene and not even really winning the fight and all that just left a bad taste in my mouth
There was a dream drop.
@@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Anyone who's offended by your opinion of a videogame needs help lol
You're good.
The worst disappointing fact about Kingdom Hearts 3 is a change of the motivations of xehanort'
bro its only been 4 years...wait holy shit its already been 4 years!?
father time gotta chill out a bit, always in a hurry
It is too easy, and the pacing is flat out bad IMO, but I still really really have a soft spot for 3. Graphically it’s beautiful, I love the worlds (Toy Story and Tangled are my favorites) and it has enough zany and heartfelt moments for longtime fans. The endgame reunions are tearjerkers and make me so happy after being with this series since it started. Overall I think 2 is the better game, but 3 is great in its own way.
A lot of people said KH2 was too easy until it was patched in the final mix and got critical mode, and I think KH3 is the same until remind came out.
People also said KH2 had slow pacing, while I'm seeing that KH3 pacing is too fast. I think part 3 gets better with time like part 2 did.
Kh2 is my favorite kingdom hearts game but kingdom hearts 3 has become one of my favs now I love the characters, boss fights, Disney ride attractions and keyblade combat, didn't really mind that there wasn't any ff characters involved cause remind dlc really explained some story parts for me also the mini games and the ending really has me on edge to what happens next in kh4 enjoyed the game so far
I can get this game for 4 dollars from Gamestop. Should I do it?
Yeah you should
Rented KH1 with my cousin from Blockbuster when it first released. Fell in love. Purchased a $500 PS3 back when those first released just so I could play KH2. Blew me away. Waited a decade for the perfected trifecta of a game series to release it's 3rd crowning jewel, and well.... pissed me off. lol. Way over hyped for what it was. The worlds and graphics were cool sure yeah, but story-wise they fumbled and made it too weird and complex. My childhood favorite memories end with KH2. Good review.
Ever since the original kingdom hearts came out and I seen the special ending I've been making theories of where the game would go. I actually used to love that...talk wit my friends about this in depth story and reading fan theories was exciting. The way 3 dropped the ball with the story it zapped all the love I had for the series away. When 4 come out I will cop but I've already been disappointed wit the story so I'm not really invested anymore. For as long as I've been waiting for all these answers to all these questions I had for almost 20 years it was possibly the greatest let down in gaming to me personally. I realized I don't even game as much because of it.thats a LONG time to wait for a conclusion only to be given some bs story in the last 2 hours of the game. Christ I even played union x for the full 5 years it was out... union x had a better conclusion than 3. That hurt my soul...
Didn't expect my comment to be this long... lol
KH2 was exactly like that as well, the last 2 hours of the game explained 90% of the story. And the endgame in KH3 was the best in the entire series. I don’t know how any real KH fan could not have liked it. Especially the data battles and Yozora. And Sora and Kairi fighting Xehanort. I think you just don’t like KH anymore but that’s fine. Also, it was never supposed to be the last game. It was only supposed to Tie up all the unresolved threads at that point and start a new story, and it did that pretty much as well as it could have all things considered. And you admitting you’re gonna play 4, is you accidentally admitting you still care about the series lol. So it couldn’t have disappeared you *that* much
@Erikthedood ehhhhh 3 was nowhere in the same ball park as 2. But if you liked it that's good. Yea... there's no way I would of purchased that $30 dlc after playing 3. It wasn't worth it... just went to TH-cam to see the story parts lol. Even still the story was poorly put together. I didn't accidentally admit anything... I said I'm no longer invested in the story anymore because I'm not. I'll still play the next game because maybe it will be a better game than 3. But I've definitely checked out after 3
I think every question that needed an answer was answered, and the answers were fine. Though the way they were given was a bit wonky.
I'm noticing a trend in series like KH and Naruto, where the creator's are struggling with the characters they right because there are too many of them.
Both authors said that they wanted to permanently kill off a few characters, but back tracked because they were too popular.
Nomura might have made a better story if he didn't feel like he had to bring back a whole bunch of fan favorites and wrap up their stories.
But those are just my thoughts.
@thewiseyounglad2699 I can agree with this. I remember when I used to go to back for kingdom hearts like "just because Disney characters are in the game don't confuse it for a kids game". The story was dark, characters died, the story was Intriguing. I was fully invested in the lore coming up with theories and stuff only for the final game in the xehanort saga to pretty much be me watching Disney movies that they placed sora in. Then tried to cram a kingdom hearts story in the last 2 hours. I was very disappointed. The keyblade "war" wasn't even a war. And the way they made riku and mickey seem so weak was insulting. Yea sora may have gotten raw but riku was still the truth. Not in 3 tho dude was so wack in comparison to the riku I remember. Half of the questions "answered" were in my opinion were asspulls (the whole xion thing being an example). They ended up making the game mad light hearted and the dark tone it had was lost in my opinion.
Fingers crossed they go back to the more grounded and deep combat system of KH2. IMO, still the best of the series without question. All the different combos, drive forms, the keyblade combinations, and really finding a great middle ground between the Disney worlds and the Final Fantasy elements. Also, Sora just looked the best in that game with his outfit (and the drive form transformations) and his longer hair (have never been a fan of his shorter cut like in KH3, makes him look younger than in 2) 🤷🏻♀️ same with Kairi and even Riku to an extent. Dunno why, just was not a fan of any of their looks in 3.
Easily the best kh3 just feels off the movement the combat it’s just not good and people still defend it like bro air combos in this game feels terrible you’re stuck up there for like 10 seconds every time almost
Well one thing that needs to happen is the KH2 team (the team behind Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Rebirth's combat) needs to return for 4. KH3's team, the Osaka team, were people in charge of combat in Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance, which is why the combat in 3 is so different and "floaty" compared to 2.
@@thegamewin100 The game feels the best in the series. There’s nothing wrong with the floaty combat. He’s literally floaty in Smash bros
i also don't like their new haircuts, any of them, the haircuts in kh2 were the best to me, also i miss Hayden being Kairi's voice, the other girl just doesn't sound right as Kairi, and though i still love the story of KH1 the most KH2 had the best combat and replayability
Sora’s KH3 outfit, ultimate Form, & Ultima weapon are definitely the best in Kingdom Hearts 3. His KH2 outfit appearing in other games looks weird, It looked best with the KH2 style graphics.
Where yozora? Where data fights?
Utter honesty, I hated this game. After having gone through every game and soaked in as much of the story as was humanly possible, just to be presented with THIS? Absolutely despised it after the 20-ish hour mark (up until that point I was really enjoying it. Then it fell off a cliff and cratered through the earth's crust).
KH3 is a game that got better with time. I wish the difficulty was tuned better (Proud is way too easy, and critical feels way too difficult early on) BUT after Remind I have high hopes for KH4 as 3 was this studios first time making a console exclusive KH game. I just hope it doesnt take a decade for 4 to come out 😅
Nah, I honestly forget my playthrough of it. It was way too easy and the story direction they took was somehow boring and nonsensical. Playing it became a chore just to finish it by the end. I can still remember KH2 even it was twice as long but goddamn KH3 was not fun.
@@sws212 I barley remember what happened in 2 LOL. I remember almost everything about 3.
KH3 isn't console exclusive though, it was released on both PS4 and Xbox
@@tubguinace I didnt mean exclusive in terms of brand but in terms of development as that team had only had experience making games on handhelds (PSP, 3DS) and had no real experience making a AAA game on modern hardware
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICEyour comments are so cringe
I love KH3, but I really feel like they held back, especially on the Disney worlds. You mentioned the Toy Box fight that had the Zorg color palette, there's also the Arendelle boss that was clearly designed to be Elsa but for some reason was switched to Hans. I wonder how much Disney meddled with the game development, and what we could've had if it didn't.
Oh we know for a fact now Disney axed squares plan to have Elsa be bake to do anything. They wanted to make her and the others party members and have Elsa be the one who ends up being the worlds “villain” but Disney said no which is why we’re left with only the big snow monster as a party member and an overall underwhelming world. Nothing past that is confirmed but it’s reasonable to deduce they meddled and ruined squares vision in other places.
We sadly may never get to see the level of Disney bosses we did in 1 and 2 simply because Disney is as involved in the series as they are now. Back when the originals were made they were seen as nothing to western Disney and thus they really got to do what they wanted or at least didn’t have Disney policing every last thing they tried
Like we’re also pretty sure the Winnie the Pooh world was supposed to be way more then what we got like actually get to see heartless eyore and maybe have real combat there but clearly the whole thing got axed and we’re again left with a shell of a candy crush clone. So sadly a lot of the Disney side complaints square had little to no control over which is likely why 4 imo movies away from more streamline classic Disney movies and instead opt for more Star Wars and pirates of Caribbean type options where they will likely be giving more creative freedom
@@minecraft52265 Wow, well that sucks. I really wish that they will indeed be given more creative freedom, Kingdom Hearts is so special also because of its approach to the Disney properties it pulled from.
The Disney worlds aren't flat corridors like 2
The greatest review. Everything you’ve said in this what I’ve been preaching to people that say the game was the best, or even up there in Kh List. When it’s not
The gummi ship always annoyed me in between worlds I think I had more fun grinding materials in space than I did off enemies that’s when I knew something was terribly wrong
No, that’s just you