Remembering The Kingdom Hearts Video Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Ah, Kingdom Hearts. An idea so weird, it should have never worked let alone gone to the mainstream and yet here we are. A plot so absurdly complex with characters you can't help but love spread across over a dozen games. Kingdom Hearts holds a special place in my, well, heart, as I'm sure it does for many of you. In celebration of Kingdom Hearts 4, let's reflect on the good, bad, and messy of this wonderful series.
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The first ever game back on ps2 truly was magical for me! My all time favourite video game ever! I mean I love all other games in the series for different reasons but there is just something so magical about kh1 being so fresh and new and very original too I might also add.
These games are still great and some of my favorites especially the numbered titles. 2 FM is my favorite game ever
Same bro Kh2 is just perfect
It's true, it's the best game
yeah, 2 and 1 are awesome, bbs is really good and the rest is just there
I love this series more than anything I've ever played. I was just reminiscing on how excited I was when I first played KH2 when it came out.
I still love Kingdom Hearts. My favorite game in the series is Kingdom Hearts 2. I really like 3 with Remind.
The reason why BBS was thought to be KH3 before it was officially revealed is the fact that the secret ending for KH2 was a scene with Aqua, Terra, and Ventus in the Keyblade Graveyard
Yea but that long ago.. ppl simply thought it was KH3
If KH3 was released in PS2 i assure you It would have been a good game as KH2 was but instead we got a terrible game with a boring game mechanics that focus in Mash buttons nothing else i remember when i fight the last boss i was stare at HP bars all time and my LV was 35 Lol
@@blusora if we got KH3 on PS2 it would’ve failed & The community would’ve complained because the PS3 came out a year after KH2.
@@-Anonymous-. you're wrong it wouldn't failed because the same developers who working in KH2 will work in KH3
@@blusora the Osaka team’s main effort recognized today was the combat for KH2.The combat is not even the issue with KH3. It’s the story, dialogue/line delivery, it’s pacing, & Disney world restriction. Among that all the issues with KH3 are because of the engine switch & starting from scratch…. All which you know NOTHING about. Otherwise you wouldn’t claim something so desperate.
Lol KH3 being on PS2, probably the most embarrassing & worst take of all time.
If there was one thing with this series I would've changed, is I wouldn't have wasted the grid on DDD. I get that Tron Legacy was 3D when it came out in theaters, so having that world on the 3DS does kind of make sense but... I feel like they could've done so much better with that world and story line. Anyways, big fan of the series myself and I'm interested to see where they go with KH4. Hoping to see FF characters return as well, and I'm super curious to see what future involvement Noctis, I mean... Yozora has (if any).
I started a series like two years ago and it took me year and a half to play all titles, well watch some because I didn't like chain of memories card game and didn't have time for birth by sleep. It's amazing love it. So far ddd and kh3 were my favorites 😊
KH2 is still one of my favourite games of all time and I replay it every year. Can't wait for 4 in 20 years time
If you really wanna give the PSP more love like you said opening BBS, that would be awesome. When it comes to things that are considered "retro" now, I feel like the PSP is often overlooked. But it was a huge part of my childhood. I'd love to see you give it a closer look in general or videos on some standout games on it.
PSP will definitely get some more love from me soon. I'm playing through all the FF games and there are MANY that I missed there ;)
I was disappointed with the Dark Baymax fight. I was expecting that after fighting him in a dogfight, we get to fight Dark Baymax in an area with the rest of Big Hero 6 providing assistance. That was a missed opportunity!
I didn't mind the idea of an aerial fight but the mechanic was really half baked and just didn't feel as good as the regular combat system
Re:coded was actually my first game in the series, I'd never heard of it before but somehow saw a commercial for that specific game and couldn't get it out of my mind. I know I'll always be biased because of nostalgia, but I do also think it's one of the most fun mechanics-wise.
Ok I believe you
I’m re-playing them all.
Have you Played the DLC for Kingdom Hearts III it Fixes alot of the Issues you have From Difficulty and Final Fantasy characters returning. And it sets up Melody of memory and Kingdom Hearts IV along with a verum rex game.
Also kingdom hearts II is the best game ever
That verum rex game being KH4
Everyone loves kh2
I would love a legit remaster/ remake of KH 1&2
22:30 I mean, KH1 was originally a one off so I'm not gonna say Nomura planned it all, but all dream drop distance did was clarify stuff already present with stuff set up in kh2
The first game, Chain of Memories for the ps2 (mostly the story), and Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix is the perfect beginning, middle, and end to the story. Everything else was either a side story or a really crappy cash grab (yes, that includes KH DDD and 3). You can argue that ReCOM is the Empire Strikes Back in the series as it did something no game in Kingdom Hearts has properly done...successfully deconstructing and reconstructing Sora.
Did all moms just call it Kingdom of Hearts? Lol
13:55-14:01
I honestly think that's what's killing the KH series. The confusing story element, nobodies and the many different xehanorts. Just go back to a simple, and clean storyline and characters with clear motives.
Just some thoughts so far watching this!
Just completed KH2 on my Fat PS2 (First timer with this version)
KH2 was and still is the best one. FM or otherwise.
I don't think 1.5 came with 2.5, it just had a slot for 1.5 if you already had it to stick it in the same steelbook
I understand disliking that part of the 2.5 steelbook. It can ruin the aesthetic.
KH1 is a bit frustrating with it's outdated mechanics, but all the other game is super solid.
Your explanation of the gameplay is so flawed for Chain of Memories
"I had all these attack cards and I couldn't do anything with them until my deck loaded"
You start with all your cards available. You keep momentum the more cards you play. You can use Potions, Ethers, and Elixirs to instantly reload. You start with a Potion in your deck. The gameplay is just send out the bigger number. It's not clunky and complex if anything it's too simple.
I'm unironically torn between KH2FM and KH3 ReMind for my favorite entries in the franchise.
KH2 often pulls ahead just because the nostalgia factor is that intense, but I try to judge it without the nostalgia as well.
I've given KH3 several tries, and currently working on a 100% completion. After ReMind, I can very comfortably say that I think it's got the best combat in the franchise, even ahead of KH2FM.
Story-wise, it's definitely a middle-tier entry. But I think it's unfair to say that everything about KH3's story is horrible, the ending is actually quite excellent in many ways. The pacing otherwise is just atrocious and it definitely felt like Disney got their grubby mitts on way too many of the worlds.
I disagree with that last part. I think the pacing is fine. Each of the Disney worlds actually contributed to the plot very well and the Organization members had an actual part of a role to play in those Disney worlds. The only thing I'll agree with is that Disney is very overprotective with Frozen. The rest are actually okay since Sora, Donald, and Goofy can at least interact with the Disney characters more often. Not to mention some of them tells a story after the events of a movie.
The Disney words didn't really contribute to the plot though. Yes, in 3 words, the Organization are causing some chaos for one purpose or another. However, for the most part, it isn't really necessary or even meaningful. Y. Xehanort is causing chaos to see how toys can have hearts and then suddenly realizes "Oh I can just make puppets and put my heart in it." But uh... Xemnas and Saix already knew that. It's pretty well established and confirmed they made Xion specifically to get a key blade wielder under their thumb. I'm 90% sure they didn't just forget and didn't plant that information in the Younger self or have a talk at some point. Xemnas and Ansem are both in Twilight Town BEFORE this time so they could have just informed him and collected the necessary vessels hours ago. The same problem happens in San Fransokio where they're doing experiments for no reason at this point. THEY HAVE 13 DARKNESSES. Why are you wasting time instead of starting you all important key blade war? There's no benefit to it. As for Vanitas, you could easily just have written it as Xehanort bringing him back before he perishes and stabilizes his existence with a piece of his own heart. It doesn't need some complex explanation of Vanitas needing negative emotion to reform. As for Larxene and Marluxia, they're just observing. Why don't they do EXACTLY what Ansem did in KH1 and just grab the princesses of heart? Their purpose is START the war so why not give extra motivation for the guardians and speed up the process? They're going to much more prepared having their back-ups in the war. Even Twilight Town's plot is pointless as Xemnas and Ansem's interactions don't matter much and the solution of putting Roxas in Data Twilight Town is dropped. It'd have been contributed to the plot if Sora realized his only option was to open his heart to darkness to release Roxas. Instead, it's a convenient plot point used to make trailer bait. Luxuord's role is equally pointless as he's running around for a box for literally no reason that we know isn't there. And any plot inside the worlds really doesn't have bearing on the plot outside of them. In fact, the only reason why they have any role on the plot is to give time for other more relevant plots to occur. It just never felt like watching or playing a kH3 had any stakes in it. It'd have had way more stakes if the events in those worlds had actual lasting importance in the main plot, but they just don't. The princess of heart plot is dropped. The Vanitas revival is pretty much over and done with. It's not even like him leaving causes the worlds outside Monstropolis to have increased Unversed presence or more negative emotions. Luxord's quest was irrelevant. Xemnas and Ansem's toying was pointless. Y. Xehanort and Riku both should already have everything they need and just focused on getting it done. That's mostly why the world's feel so irrelevant. They're trying to imply things are progressing, but when you strip them to the core, nothing actually is happening. It takes Sora finally doing what he said he'd do AFTER Larxene told him something that should stimulate the plot for things to happen. And then, suddenly everything unsticks for some reason and Sora just magics away all the problems.
I may be one of the only people who enjoys the current complicated disaster that is the recent plot than the more simple story of KH1. I'm not trying to argue objective quality, purely based off of subjective enjoyment. I just find the story a lot more interesting than it was during KH1.
Kh3>kh2
Kingdom Hearts 2 - given its era - is one the best games ever made, KH1 as well. KH3 was a massive disappointment and I'm doubtful I'll continue following the series.
I’m actually starting this series today I’m looking forward to it.
Have fun 😎 im replaying 2 right now
Your in for one hell of a ride dood Have fun!!
Good luck! Reminder, NO GAME IS OPTIONAL! The order is 1, COM, 2, 358, bbs, coded, Back cover, ddd, 0.2, 3, Re:mind, and finally MoM
@@castle3267 I agree but I didn't play MOM 🤷🤷🤷
@@stephenthedude4383 did you watch the cutscenes? Because the game’s story is pretty important and you’ll be lost without it
Kingdom Hearts 2 is such a magical game. Still has the best worlds, music and bosses in the series. Tron and Nightmare before Christmas are personal favorites. Doing the data battles on critical was so tough but rewarding
I wouldn’t really say it has the best world’s, sure the original worlds are really good but the Disney worlds are just really flat and boring
I love kh 2 and it's definitely a 10/10 but nothing can recreate what I felt while playing kh 1. I think that game had the most depth in terms of worlds, where as kh 2 was boring with worlds and I was just ready to get to the organization stuff
You mean KH2 final mix, that makes all the difference lol
@@UltimatePower01 the storyline for kh 2 was freakin epic and the best
KH3 easily has the best Disney worlds but KH2 especially the final mix version is clearly the best game.
I played kingdom hearts 2 when I was a young kid and then went back a few years ago and played the whole series. I don’t care how confusing and crazy the story gets 😂 I love this series and it’s atmosphere!!
It didn't get too confusing until dream drop distance imo. Maybe it made sense if I played through the game but I quit after 15 hours. I was just frustrated with it and skipped and watch the game cut scenes.
I always find it funny that everyone’s least part, all the time travel nobody xehanort convolution craziness, has actually always been my favorite part lmao. Kingdom Hearts is a unique batshit crazy entity in gaming that will literally never be replicated and I love it for that.
I used to agree with you but KH 3 changed my mind. I thought I know enough and played all the games to understand things. Turns out. I was wrong and was missing key characters and story beats. There was several times I was left going who's that? What just happened? I was able to read online to find the missing gaps but the damage was done. KH 3 was disappointing and made me realize I don't enjoy the series any more...
@@lukeluke333lukeluke Well I'm sorry for your loss bud lmaooo
my least favorite was the "people come back when nobodies and heartless are defeated", really bringing down the stakes, i was also feeling fatigued of the organization, after being in so many games they felt like they were one good idea beaten into the ground.
@@lukeluke333lukeluke i'm sad to hear that, i don't have much optimism for the story but am still willing to accompany Sora and the boys through their next adventure, and i've always prioritized gameplay over it which has always been at least decent
Kingdom Hearts 2 was my favorite game but honestly I think I like Kingdom Hearts 1 a little more. The exploration and fighting strategy in the first game tops the second for me.
KH2 is peak fiction, peak jrpg 😤
Also COM top 3 KH games
Yea, CoM gets beaten up by people but it had good bosses and story.
You forgot about Melody Of Memory
Seriously, what is everyone's beef with Chain of Memories and its card battle system? On one hand I may be nostalgia blinded as the GBA version was my first ever KH game, but on the other, even back then I could get into the battle mechanics easily, and thought it was super cool that stringing 3 specific cards together could trigger various cool abilities or summons, not to mention the tactical part of stacking your cards in the right order for easy access to your most powerful sleights, and using them at the right time, seeing as you are being warned early on that the final card in your combo will disappear for the rest of the battle. Repetition may have been a key factor, seeing as how if you had a good tactic going, you'd use those same moves in every battle, but I never grew tired of it.
Sure, I was aware of the PS2 original, and did in some ways see CoM as a lesser version of the real thing, but for one thing, this game (in a good way) only made me more curious to play KH1, and secondly, on top of every floor in Castle Oblibity being a recap of a world from KH1 (which thus got me sorta up to speed) everything that happened inbetween was an all-new story, introducing my No.1 waifu of all time by the way, AND you unlocked playing as motherbleeping Riku afterwards!
The ps2 version of Chain of Memories is actually a remake, the GBA version is the original
@@tigerfestivals5137 I'm aware, I worded it wrong. I meant that KH1 on PS2 was the original version of the story being told in CoM, since the story in the worlds of CoM are all re-tells of what happened in KH1, if that makes any sense? As in "Kingdom Hearts 1 is the original Kingdom Hearts game". It's a muffled way of looking at it, but that's what I was going for.
I can't speak for everyone's experience, but I can at least give my own. For me, I played Re:Chain of Memories and the combat to me always came across as very broken. To start, the game introduces basically everything you need to know in World 1 which is pretty solid. It helps you understand how to play the game and progress in the combat. In theory, it should be preparing you to experiment and master the controls in later worlds. However, the combat for regular enemies doesn't fully prepare you for bosses and vise versa. For regular enemies, just overusing strong cards will suffice while bosses are really designed strictly for you to avoid attacks by breaking cards. The game is very punishing for having your cards broken/letting enemies attack. Axel 2 is a great example of this as the entire boss fight can kill you with just 2-3 of Axel's sleights if you let him (it's happened to me more than one occasion). Thus, the game is teaching you the only solution is to build decks that can't be broken by your opponent and to constantly break theirs. As a result, your objective now shifts to building decks with powerful sleights that will do massive damage and kill bosses with ease. This limits your options as you're now focused less on experimenting and figuring out what options are most optimal for your play style. It isn't really teaching you to experiment and have fun with the system. It's teaching you to break it to make your life easier.
Compounding this issue is the fact that Re:Chain of Memories system is based on math which most people dislike. I don't know a huge number of people who like math in games. As a result, people are going to want to focus on building decks that they can use long term to save time crunching all the annoying numbers to make the combo they want. I'm good at math myself, but even I get bored crunching numbers to figure out the precise details for a specific combo to just try it out. What ends up happening then is that players are being trained unintentionally to zero on a permanent deck that will kill most bosses and has simple math. In this case, 20-23 is an easy range to obtain because most people know how to add up to 20 or 21 (7 times 3 is 21). While the 2nd condition requires different types of key blades, players are earning new types all the time which makes this condition more accessible and easy to achieve. These two conditions are why Sonic blade becomes a welcoming choice for most players. Similarly, mega flare is instantly popular for grinding since it literally kills everything and just requires two random fires + mushu. In this regard, specific sleights are simply too powerful NOT to use and break the game's difficulty. The argument to not using a strategy like this is counterproductive since it forces the player to try and learn the controls to not break the game instead of instantly solving their problems with Sonic Blade. Re:Com also reduced the levels required for it making it even more busted than before. So realistically, you are essentially either going to use it or handicap yourself without much benefit in-game (even if internally, it helps make the combat a little more challenging).
For me though, I think what killed it is that I really don't learn the controls. As I'm playing, I'm shutting my brain off during combat and not thinking about doing 20 different cool things to kill enemies. Instead, I'm thinking how to combine attacks to prevent breaks and kill them as fast as possible. I eventually get bored of fighting and just want to continue with the plot. This especially happens on Riku's side where I get burnout due to the fact that 75% of his side is just fighting all the time. Since I never learned how to not break the combat on Sora's side, I'm even less prepared for Riku's side which expects you to. In particular, I'm super bad about using enemy cards. They're so optional on Sora's side I forget that I can press a button and use them. Additionally, I have no motivation to do so as enemies typically die in a few hits from my key blade swings or sonic blade anyway (defeating the purpose of using one). On Riku's side though, you really do need them and I just don't use them. As a result, I'm forced to use the Card battle system by winning Duals against enemies. Since the system is just pairing cards equal or greater to the card of an enemy after using a card of equal value, it's incredibly easy and mind numbing to just rapidly press X to trigger and kill the boss. I don't even feel like doing Dark Mode. If I get hit at any point, the enemy can just combo me to death. This is also a problem on Sora's side, but I feel especially vulnerable on Riku's side so I'm obsessed with avoiding any chance of attacks at all. And since you're EXPECTED to break cards, not dodge, it becomes a rather poor motivation to use dark mode over safety. It also doesn't help that Riku has only one way to heal and it's based on RNG whereas Sora just has instant cure. I get why they added the card limits to add extra challenge, but the process just frustrates with me.
Another issue from what I heard is that Re: Chain also suffers from 3D spaces. The game was originally designed for 2D battles which is why it works better on the GBA for combat. Since you have a 3rd dimension and can more easily miss, it further pushes the player into doing actions that reduce failures when fighting enemies. As a result, it continues to teach players to stick with what you know and not innovate which is counterintuitive to the combat they WANTED us to play. I don't know how true this is, but it's something I've read about before.
I don't know if that's everyone's experience, but those are at least my main thoughts. I hope that was helpful to you, and if not, you can let me know what I can clarify from my experience.
A favorite series of mine. Definitely Top 10 series of all time for me.
Kingdom Hearts 3 is my favorite entry so far. With KH2 a nanometer behind it.
Never saw the story as "convoluted," though. I get that most other people do, but it's pretty simple to me. It just has more rhan one thing going on at the same time. That's all.
Welp... to each their own.
I just started the series over myself. So I am enjoying the whole thing once again! 😁
The story is straightforward, if you play all the games together in release order.
If you're trying to piece secondhand information together because you didn't know you missed a game or three, you're boned. (What do you mean, "there's no such thing as a Kingdom Hearts spinoff game?")
The collection re-releases have done wonders for improving the understanding of the story.
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I prefer to play them in story-order. More enjoyable for me that way. And even *more* straightforward.
Blind fanboi opinion
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That's your opinion and you are more than welcome to it. 🤷🏾♂️
I love 3 and 2
I love the Disney boss fights in KH2. Wish there was more in KH3 though some worlds it made sense not to fight them( Like Hans for Frozen lol). The Tron boss with MCP & Sark is my favorite.
Hans had a really cool heartless tho
@@landonalves1774 Indeed!
Actually the first game in the story line is union cross :^)
I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GONNA CORRECT ME!
The character of Roxas has some of the best writing in the entire franchise. His character is so well done.
Poor Lock having to edit through KH, but ahh well, anything in the name of quality content ❤️
Lock hard carries this channel. Couldn't do ANY of this without him
Matty looks like a 90s boy band member with that cut. Lol. Great video man. Love me some Kingdom hearts
When I say “make KH4 more like KH2” I don’t mean rip out the flow motion and shotlocks and keyblade transformations, KEEP ALL OF THAT 🔥🔥🔥 Those are things that were added since KH2 that aimed to level up the experience and actually did a good job -
What they should NOT continue to do is use past HANDHELD GAMES as EXCUSES to justify:
-destroying their best received combat system of all time (floaty)
-less worlds
-less enemies
-shorter campaign than PS2 predecessors
-no Colosseum trials
-no sephiroth fight
-half of twilight town, no seven wonders, no tower, no inside mansion
-no hollow bastion (have we strayed this far?…)
etc. - all of THAT stuff is portable hardware spin-off energy. We’re back on console, baby. Let’s make KH4 the new series best, I’m tired of looking back on what feels like “the glory days” of the KH series with KH2FM.
These games are amazing and I have a love-hate relationship with them. KH3 has okay combat, mainly in the data battles tbh. But I prefer KH2's combat above all others. I think KH3 might have the second best combat for me out personally (out of the main games) if you take out the attraction commands. Also, I don't know if you got around to it, but you should check out the Back Cover movie they made that was in the 2.5 HD collection, and you might have it but idk. The movie covers the main events of what happened and it's actually super interesting. It's also technically the "real" beginning of the KH universe (though technically it goes back further in time). I highly recommend it :).
Just wanted to say I appreciate how much detail and effort goes into these reviews on this channel. Great video Matty !
My grandma and elementary classmates would say Kingdom Of Hearts too 😂
KH3 wasn’t too bad, imo. Story was pretty weak, but I think the gameplay is pretty good. The major thing I didn’t like were the attraction rides. If they were used in more puzzles, I’d probably like them more. But as they are now, I wish they were completely removed
The actual design of the worlds in Dream Drop Distance is incredible when you realise it was made for the 3DS. The sprawling maps that took advantage of verticality as well as floor space. Compare to the original maps for the DS titles and many of the maps in Birth by Sleep, it looks so much like it came out of a game made for the PlayStation. The reality shift feature also allows for environment interaction to navigate, such as using the Shift on a barrel in Monstro to help Riku reach a ledge with a chest.
DDD gets props just for how much they expanded traverse town.
This franchise is my favorite, yes the story kinda went off the rails but I still love it
The music still me goosebumps like when I was a child. I'm a 31 year old man now
Nomura said Xehanort Saga wasn’t the end after 3 before 3 was released. This might or has to be the last saga. We’re getting Kingdom Hearts games for years. I think 4 is going to come out 2025 it’s not going to take 6 years for a new KH game to come out like 3 did
First off, Great vid matty!
KH3 just felt like a stepping stone for the series to me instead of being the grand finale that everyone hoped it wouldve been.
However remind and the story setting up 4 so far has me somewhat excited again for the series since theyre finally moving on from this 20yr old arc. Plus remind showed the dev team listened to fans about boss fights and the combat being too easy so hopefully they deliver a strong game off the bat this time around.
I mean Tbf, KH3 was never supposed to be the “grand finale” in the first place. Just the finale to the first arc, the Dark Seeker Saga.
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE but also it took 20 years to finish one arc. That's very unsustainable. Its why after BBS people began to feel like he was making it up as he went along even though the story kept trying to be clever with convoluted reveals. Tetsuya Nomura was 31 when he began Kingdom Hearts. He is now 51. if he takes another 20 years to finish an arc he will be 71 LMAO.
Anyway I love KH. I thought KH3 was meant to be a grand finale, but either way excited for the future of KH.
@@zoestace7186 Some stories just take a long time to develop. I mean, just look at the MCU or the Trails series
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE alright, it didn’t not conclude the Xehanort saga on the lvl that a lot of people thought it would. People have opinions stop making excuses.
Still a great game, & the combat with Remind is satisfying.
@@-Anonymous-. It’s not an opinion when they literally confirmed it wouldn’t end the story lol.
The KH2 3rd visit to Hollow Bastion/2nd visit to Space paranoids where the FF team + Merlin upgrades Tron's powers is the single greatest FF/Disney chapter in any KH game ever. When Tron hugged Sora and said "Is this what people do when they say goodbye" and Goofy replied my heart melts man. Peak KH right there
I'll never understand people's love for BBS. Maybe it's because I never experienced the original PSP port and I've only ever played the PS4 version but I think it is by far the weakest combat out of all the games.. not even kidding I think Re:Chain is better.
22:14 but some of that was in 1? Like, thats why called him "just the delivery boy" in hollow bastion. The Keyblade was supposed to be his, but because he dissapeared into the darkness, it went to the next best candidate.
KH2 definitely makes a top 10 best games list for me. I didn’t play every handheld one just because I didn’t have all the systems. Ended up watching most of it on TH-cam to get the full story. I thought KH3 was pretty much a huge letdown bar the final battle. I think a lot of it had to do with me growing up though. Played KH2 when I was 13 and then KH3 when I was 27 lol kinda wild to think about that
KH2 is my absolute favorite and I’m heartbroken that it’s not on switch properly and BBS is also my second favorite and DDD is my number 3 and I love the TWEWY characters 🥰 wish it also came to switch properly and not this cloud BS
KH2 is everyone’s favorite
@@jeremybrandt5779 for good reason lol
I love the cloud feature! It proofs how shitty the Nintendo Switch is
@@jeremybrandt5779 Me; "I'm guess I'm not part of 'everyone' then :'("
@@lukasruston8618 Me neither.
KH3 is amazing and i bet most people hating It did not even play It.
This is a great review of the series. It's totally fair and really shows the general consensus among fans about the games. Though I did really enjoy Dream Drop Distance myself. To this day I still think KH1 is the most replayable though.
I used to play Kingdom hearts one and two when I was in elementary school after that I got into Nintendo game like Legend of Zelda(Skyward Sword),Kid icarus Uprising),Super Smash Bros Ultimate,Xenoblade 2,Xenoblade Definitive edition and Super Mario!Until we got more and more kingdom hearts games like birth by sleep, dream drop distance and three I really hated three! Hopefully four will deliver!Now Sora is in Smash Bros Ultimate now We’ll see him take all his rivals like Shulk(Xenoblade Chronicles), Pit(Kid icarus Uprising) and Link(Legend of Zelda)!
and Joker the leader of the phantom thieves who steals hearts
Kingdom Hearts was one of the few things that kept Disney Relevant in the 2000s.
Cause man, outside of KH, and Pixar, Disney was rough. Michael Eisner was running the company to the ground, Disney Animation was dying, the parks were cheap and lazy, Roy E Disney staged a revolt.
Personally, I don't think KH2 should be blamed for the series plot going off the rails. IMO Nobodies felt like a completely "logical" inclusion, and the Ansem/Xehanort twist was _less_ convoluted than most Final Fantasy games.
Really, it's the spinoffs (CoM included) that are to blame for what a mess the series has become)
They're really not spinoff if they're vital to the lore. That criticism is now outdated since the collection is out for all game systems.
@@Redxan600 They're non-numbered handheld titles built around gimmicks; most of their gameolay content is rehashed from the numbered console titles; and they don't serve to move the narrative _forward,_ only convolute the existing narrative of KH 1+2.
By any metric they _are_ spinoffs; the fact that they're vital to understanding the story is a major failing IMO. That may not be as bug of a problem _now,_ since we have the collections, but for the longest time if you wanted to fully experience KH's story, you needed to own five different consoles.
And on top of that, their worlds are lifeless, their plots are mediocre and padded to hell, and the fact that they're necessary is a testament to the series' terrible writing.
Frankly, I wish the series had ended with 3. I can't muster one iota of interest in KH4; all the magic of 1 and 2 are _looong_ dead.
At thus point KH is a just a bloated monument to why Nomura was the worst thing to ever happen to Square. Pretty much everything wrong with modern Final Fantasy is a byproduct of his influence on the company. I think it's telling that two series have begun to look so similar.
@@RunePonyRamblings TH-cam, I'm tired of you hiding and deleting my replies. Stop that already!
"They're non-numbered handheld titles built around gimmicks; most of their gameolay content is rehashed from the numbered console titles; and they don't serve to move the narrative forward, only convolute the existing narrative of KH 1+2."
Wow, really? You're just going to straight up say that? First off, each of the non-numbered games plays uniquely and different. Sure Re:Coded and DDD has the BBS mechanic, but with Re:Coded, the gameplay has variety and DDD has Flowmotion and Dream Eaters to make the gameplay feel so much different from BBS. Second, they do serve the narrative. All of the other titles were building up to the finale of the Xehanort saga.
"By any metric they are spinoffs; the fact that they're vital to understanding the story is a major failing IMO."
If you can follow the MCU stories, or the Star Wars films, or any of the Harry Potter books, then there should be no problem for you to follow the KH lore.
"if you wanted to fully experience KH's story, you needed to own five different consoles."
While I'm not disagreeing with this statement, that is not longer a problem now since the collection is out for all game system.
"And on top of that, their worlds are lifeless, their plots are mediocre and padded to hell, and the fact that they're necessary is a testament to the series' terrible writing."
Dude, what game are you playing? Because this doesn't sound like Kingdom Hearts. I mean the worlds, plots, and padding are true with kh2, but what you're describing is not at all like KH.
"Frankly, I wish the series had ended with 3."
You could just stop playing and not invest any more time into this franchise. No one is forcing you to stay.
"At thus point KH is a just a bloated monument to why Nomura was the worst thing to ever happen to Square. Pretty much everything wrong with modern Final Fantasy is a byproduct of his influence on the company. I think it's telling that two series have begun to look so similar."
Suuuuure. Blame Nomura for everything. But guess what? If it wasn't for Nomura, Kingdom Hearts probably wouldn't be as popular now. He doesn't have anything to do with the recent FF games other than just the art. You're just letting his wins stay rent free in your head.
At this point, you can double down and spout some more information and show off how petty you look, or just walk away from this. Your choice.
@UCoSokzbIpUUKOWnI1UwMvPA *"Second, they do serve the narrative. All of the other titles were building up to the finale of the Xehanort saga"*
Yes, because informing the present-day cast that Terra, Aqua, and Ventus need help totally required an entire game of rehashed KH1 levels to do and couldn't have simply been established in a cutscene. Ditto for Xion, who is totally a character that needed to exist, who isn't made redundant by Roxas and Namine already existing, and totally needed an entire game to explain her existence. Did we need an entire game for the sole purpose of explaining Xehanort's plan to re-create the X-blade? The plan we already knew about from BBS? And which hasn't changed by KH3? Literally 3 of the 5 spinoffs have no justifiable reason to exist. And even then I'd say CoM is seriously pushing it.
*"If you can follow the MCU stories, or the Star Wars films, or any of the Harry Potter books, then there should be no problem for you to follow the KH lore."*
Star Wars is hardly an apt comparison at all. _None_ of the Star Wars EU is required to understand the films, not even the cartoons. They can _enhance_ your understanding or appreciation of the universe, but you're not going to be left unable to understand Episode V because you didn't watch the Holiday Special or read Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Harry Potter is an even _worse_ comparison. It's a straightforward series; you start at book one and each subsequent book moves the narrative forward. When you read Prisoner of Azkeban you won't be left wondering who Sirius Black is because you didn't read the secret epilogue to Chamber of Secrets that was only published in a UK-exclusive magazine. You don't need to read a spinoff book to know who the other teams in the Tri-Wizard Tournament are. And you certainly don't need to play a Beedle the Bard DS game to understand WTF the Deathly Hallows are.
As for the MCU... frankly that whole format is cancer. Whatever happened to just telling a story? Even complex stories can be told succinctly; anyone who _needs_ an entire book/movie/game to set up a character or plot point is a bad writer, plain and simple. Remember what I said earlier about Star Wars? Well, compare that to the new Disney era; wanna know who the hell the First Order are, where they came from, or how they managed to rise and gain control of the galaxy without the New Republic lifting a finger to stop them? Gotta read some books! Pick up the visual dictionary for Ep. IX if you want to know where Palpatine's giant sith army came from. Hey, doesn't Mustafar look a little... different than it did in Ep. III? Play the Darth Vader VR game to find out why! Did you like the Mandalorian? Well you'll need to watch the Book of Boba Fett if you want to be up to speed come Season 3. You'll also need to watch Clone Wars and Rebels to know what the deal with Ahsoka, Thrawn, and Bo Katan is. And of course you'll need to watch the Ahsoka series, and the Ranger of the New Republic, if you want to be prepared for the inevitable Thrawn crossover. Who knows? Maybe the Obi-Wan interquel nobody asked for will have some scene with Ezra that will also be required viewing.
The Compilation made FF7's story _worse,_ not better; ditto for this new multi-game remake they're doing. Do I even need to mention Fabula Nova Crystalis? Did we really need two sequels to FFXIII? Why do I have to watch a movie, an anime, play two mobile games, and buy multiple DLC chapters just to get the full story for FFXV? And why, despite all this extra development for their worlds and characters, are they still LESS compelling than the old self-contained titles?
It's nothing more than bad writing, corporate greed, and franchise milking. I guarantee you that a competent writer could've told KH's story in 4 games, tops.
*"Dude, what game are you playing? Because this doesn't sound like Kingdom Hearts. I mean the worlds, plots, and padding are true with kh2, but what you're describing is not at all like KH."*
Why are we even playing through Disney worlds in any of the spinoffs? It's largely irrelevent to the plot, and the worlds themselves have no unique NPCs, enemies, or mechanics. No unique character forms. No novel method of traversing them. No personal connection with the main character. They could literally be replaced by original levels, or procedurally-generated greybox dungeons, and from a narrative and gameplay standpoint almost _nothing_ would change.
KH2 did lay the groundwork with it's more straightforward level design, but it still had all of those key features I mentioned.
*"You could just stop playing and not invest any more time into this franchise. No one is forcing you to stay."*
I know that, and you know that. You also know that that's a non-argument. My opinion is no less valid just because I've grown sick of it. I put up with a _fuckton_ of BS from this series because I loved KH1&2. I have every right to be upset that after blueballing us for 14 years they have the gall to do it all over again.
*"Suuuuure. Blame Nomura for everything. But guess what? If it wasn't for Nomura, Kingdom Hearts probably wouldn't be as popular now. He doesn't have anything to do with the recent FF games other than just the art. You're just letting his wins stay rent free in your head."*
I love KH 1 & 2, but frankly at this point I would rather the series have never existed, if only to avoid it's own degeneration and the deleterious effect it's had on SE as a whole.
You do know Nomura was the director of FFXV, right? He was also one of the minds behind Fabula Nova Crystalis in general. He might not be singularly responsible for all the problems with SE, but he's certainly emblematic of them. Especially given that modern FF is largely experiencing the _exact same issues_ as KH, seemingly born of the same mindset and directorial approach.
Yes, the KH series is very successful; it's also a laughing stock. You could call that a "win" in the same way that Disney's live-action remakes are "wins", and I suppose if you're a bean-counter it doesn't really matter, but if you're someone who wants good games/movies/whatever, it hurts. You can call that "staying rent free", I call it "giving a damn about the things I love".
@@RunePonyRamblings Literally every side game adds something to the plot what. That’s like watching the MCU movies and saying only the Avengers films are important.
Love this series so much. KH3 is probably my favorite and had me so excited for the future before KH4 was even announced
Yeah KH3 is probably the badest shit.
KH3 is so underrated compared to 2.
@@bigcade554 AGREED! Like, I get it, 2 is a good game, I've played it myself, I got 100% completion, I beat it on crit level 1 but KH3 imo is as good if not better than 2.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who considers 3 their favorite.
Even to this day i still don't understand why KH3 is so hated. I really dont.
If there is a Hall of Fame for video games, Kingdom Hearts will definitely be up there.
This retro section takes the channel to another level. Great content Matty
I don't usually do this but I'd love to see you do a video on the Chronicles of Riddick exclusive we got back in the day for Xbox
Still waiting on your Dragon Quest video and you starting the series, DQ 3, 11, 8 and 5 are all the best ones. Play DQ 1-3 in order on Switch, DQ 11s free demo is still available on all platforms.
sora not being given a keyblade was revealed in bbs...
Love KH series and been going back to the older games. Amazing series and great video, I'm hoping KH4 is good again and not as bad as 3 was, KH 1 and 2 we're such masterpieces man. Also all of DQ 4-9 is on DS/3DS. DQ 1-3 on Switch again and DQ 11is on all gaming platforms. Most influential RPG series ever made, inspired and created Final fantasy, Kingdom hearts and Pokemon and other RPGs for instance. Dragon quest legendary influence on gaming is nothing to ignore or sleep on. Dragon Quest 3 is a masterpiece and my favorite in the series like many, the FF7 of RPGs of Japan, it's basically there favorite game and RPG DQ3. Dragon Quest 3 is the most influential RPG game ever created on the planet, documentaries explain it well. Play 1 and 2 first before the amazing DQ 3 since it's a trilogy and should be played in order, 1 and 2 are short so it's easy and 3 is the normal length of a game today. Will never stop recommending this amazing series, hope you start and enjoy it.
3 isn’t the best, but it isn’t bad either. But 2FM is the best
Kingdom hearts is my life.
Kids these days will never know the value of great childhood games
Dude? They'll be saying the same thing about games they had in the future
You said the only Disney bosses in 3 was pirates? There's also the Titans in Hercules, Dark Baymax, the snow giant from frozen. Those are just off the top of my head
Chain of Memories was my first KH game. The worst place to start, but something about the PS2 cover art called to me. It's still my favorite one because the card system was very unique to me.
Blasphemy
1 and 2 are great. 3 is just grunting anime with horrible voice acting with ungraceful combat. Hayden will always be the voice of Kairi. Diz will always be Christopher lee. kh1and 2 were a passion product from the end of SquareSoft to the the start of SquareEnix. KH3 is loveless child only a weeb could love. Also KH2 BBS secret ending was more impactful than all of BBS. You cant just do it again and get the same affect. Venus keyblade didn't even break.
Kh1,kh2 remixes are amazing
KH2FM is still one of the greatest action-RPGs ever made.
You're spoiling DDD because you don't like it? That's real dumb.
The Story of KH was finished when KH1 was released. They decided to scale the story back at the last minute and gutted 80% of the story from KH1 in order to make it more streamlined since they wanted it to appeal to a younger demographic. Later Nomura decided to use the expanded story as the back drop for an entire series. Yes everything that happens in the subsequent games was always planned to happen. Just expanded as they filled out the lore for each game. Tons of people do no research on KH1 and then assume that the story is just improvised as they go. It's not. Nomura released ALOT of interviews before the launch of KH1 that reveal this fact but no one does research on that.
Here's the thing
Kingdom Hearts: Dark Seeker Saga or just Xehanort Saga as I prefer (Minus the mobile games, japanese pc browser game, back cover x movie and anything post KH III ReMIND but plus TWEWY, MoM and Smash Ultimate.... Yes you read that right) is my favorite videogame series of all time.
But Square Enix has doubled down on making Kingdom Hearts a never ending franchise which it should never have been in the first place, not every series in the world needs to be never ending and Kingdom Hearts initially was set up to have a perfect beginning middle and end of a story. Kingdom Hearts as a series post KH III ReMIND will hit a wall and just downward spiral with the never ending rabbit hole lore.
And I really plead Kingdom Hearts fans (or people curious of it's maximum potential of series enjoyment) to only play the games in this order: ⬇️
. Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (Lay of the land)
. Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories (GBA version is superior but the PS2/3/4 remakes will do fine and picks up straight away from KH 1)
. Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days (Some would argue that you should play KH II first however I've played these games multiple times and it's way more impactful and emotional investing watching Roxas's story play out with 358/2 Days before II and I agree, it's a crime that you can only play it in the DS, it's literally the only game that needs a remake because while the DS version is okay, re:coded plays better which almost has zero story but 358/2 Days story is so rich with lore but doesn't play as well as the other games)
. Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix + (While KH lays the foundation and Days/COM tell smaller stories KH II smashes the door open wide with the most amount of lore on some MGS levels of plot)
. Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix (After the KH II lore dump creating more questions than answers but in a fun way, BBS is a prequel to the entire series but is best experienced at this point rather than right at the beginning because one it answers alot of questions you had in KH II and B it will make you more emotionally invested)
. Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded (Very very small story of the series, designed to indicate it's not over yet)
. The World Ends With You (Wait tHis iSNt a kIngDoM moUse gAmE!? If you've seen 3D or the KH III ending you'll get it, I took it upon myself to add it to the KH series because of it's connection to Travers Town and it's importance to the ending of KH III ReMIND battle ground)
. Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD (Leads in from coded and as I mentioned previously has a TWEWY ty in, sets the rule for the final battle)
. Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth by Sleep A Fragmentary Passage (Some argue you should play this right after the first BBS but please do not do that, at the end of BBS Aqua is trapped in the realm of darkness for a decade, instead of playing 0.2 right after the first BBS game it's way more gut wrenching and rewarding playing 0.2 here plus it's a glorified demo for KH III being the next game)
. KH III with ReMIND DLC (The cherry on top of a cake, the bow on top of a present for to end the series..... Almost ;) Every game previous has been building to this one and WITH THE REMIND DLC, it's the best game in the series, I 100% agree with you in regards to the marketing, showing every single world before hand was a complete miss fire/cash grab, beautiful way to bring an end to the main villain of the series tho, in short Sora sacrifices him self to save his friends and the world's, dies at TWEWY Shibuya.... Or does he...)
. KH Melody of Memory (consider the next two final entries just a celebration of the series, Melody of Memory celebrates the tremendous music of the series while documenting Kairi's struggle without Sora while Sora fights endlessly in ⬇️...)
. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (With Ending B of KH III REMIND being my canon ending, Sora dies, makes the ultimate sacrifice for his loved ones and while crystalized, banished to the World of Light in Smash Ultimate, fitting being the last fighter for smash banishing both the Light and Darkness within in him)
This order and unique way of playing this series will make you most satisfied. All the Harry Potter Union X, Unchained X, Dark Road, X, Back Cover X, who's in the box/who's the master of masters bs should have nothing to do with the series and has ruined the series for making it continue on like it has ... Trust me, don't play any more after the list above, cuz it'll never end.
Kingdom Hearts will always be special to me. KH3 is my absolute favourite, followed by Melody of Memory and then 2. Love it soooo much
My only hope for kingdom hearts moving forward is that they remind Nomura completely. He's driven the story into the dirt numerous times. It's beyond bad.
Now he's all ass hurt about FF15 and his botched character that he's forcing it into the Kingdom Hearts world. He will never be able to bring it back to where it could've been cause he's simply bad at story writing
I have nothing but fond memories for KH1. Never played any of the others though. I was just kinda put off by hearing how complex everything gets story-wise with each subsequent game. Sorry if that doesn't make me much of a fan.
Anyone else notice that he said days released exclusive to the 3ds and not the ds? Just a thing I noticed. Also my first kingdom hearts exposure was to re coded. And fun fact for those who don't know re coded was originally pitched as a mobile game and Nomura got the idea for it when he was drunk. I wish I was joking but im not. So I think the whole story was planned to an extent. Re coded maybe wasn't originally intended to be a thing but nonetheless it exists. Also personally I'm not a fan of the kh2 world revisits. It honestly just feels like square was trying to pad out game time and this is the best idea they could think of. Personally I just think it feels a little lazy
Kingdom Hearts fans. Stand Down......
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The first Kingdom Hearts was the best, thematically. It became a total mess. Kingdom Hearts 2 was good too, really good, but after that...yeah... Even Chain of Memories was only okay.
I've always observed the kingdom hearts series from the sidelines. However, that didn't stop me from getting excited when watching the KH4 trailer, even though I've only heard bits about the other games. I've always had an interest in playing the games, but I wasn't sure if I should jump into it because I was intimidated by its seemingly complex plot and many titles. However, you've given me the push I needed to finally give this series a shot. Great video as always!
It's definitely a really intimidating series to approach, especially if you're interested in the lore alongside the gameplay. Definitely try the first 3 games, and if you like them then give the non-numbered titles and KH3 a spin!
Broke my leg last year and went though then all, had a blast.
I loved the first one. When it seemed a little more grounded. It went off the rails pretty fast after that. 2 was good but weird. Birth by Sleep is my 2nd fav. Very solid game. 3 was a slog for me. It completely put me off. So much so that I'm done with the series personally. I still enjoy the first few though.
Kh3 is just the goat for me man
KH3 is the goat for a reason, my dude.
Yep
I gotta say, as a new KH fan starting with 3, them packing all the games (and cutscene movies) into one was fuckin genius for the new fans who like me jumped in at 3
9:00 358/2 is an abomination my dude. The gameplay is boring and repetitive. There’s a reason they only wanted to focus on the story here.
That's the most disingenuous summary of Chain of Memories. Most of the cutscenes don't even take place in the Worlds.
I got half way into KH3 before I realized I had no idea what was going on so I finally got the whole collection and I'm going to play it all from start to finish.
Never thought I’d hear someone say they actually liked final fantasy 13-2 😮 that’s just madness lol
This guy loves birth by sleep and recoded he loves flow motion what the fuck? The only thing you got right in this video is the fact that kh2 goes hard.
I wish Kingdom Hearts stayed a Final Fantasy game with Disney characters, instead of becoming a Disney game with no elements of final fantasy.
My favorite game list:
Kingdom Hearts 2
FNV
DBZ BT2
Ninja Gaiden 2
Borderlands 2
It gets on my nerves so much to hear someone talk about Kingdom Hearts that doesn’t fully understand it although this dude definitely does more than most
i know right ssquare killed off nier, chrono and world ends with you.