the character in the movie is Belfort being young and crazy. is the same person, only this enterview is now, with him being an adult person who has learned a lot in his journey
Obviously. He did pull off a multi-million dollar scheme. None the less he is a crook and a piece of shit. Anyone who views him as an icon or someone to "learn from" are the same. He destroyed countless lives with his schemes. People had to sell their homes, refuse money to their children, etc. Because of what he did. He deserves to be shot.
You should’ve seen the true “full” interview. He berates Jordan even further, even brings up his parents to shame him. I notice CNN cut that out of their TH-cam clips 🤔
Jordan Belfort is an amazing PR guy. Piers Morgan kept trying to trap him the entire interview but he just faced it like a pro in the best possible way possible.
You know what annoys me? He's only the villain because he broke the law. He could have cost people their life savings in an immoral but legal way and no one would have batted an eyelid, he'd be a hero. The majority of the money he made was actually legitimate, only a small fraction was illegal. The system itself is broken.
Belfort isn't remorseful. Rather, he wants to be perceived as remorseful. He wants to sell the idea. It is his latest con. And people are stupid. They will believe him.
ArmandoBellagio it´s an unbelievably huge sum of money he owes the people and the government, selling his story in a book isn´t gonna get him even close to this sum ...
Simon Farre I think it's also a matter of principle. He's legally obligated to pay back his stolen money. That doesn't mean he's in his heart sorry for what he did. But I'm not going to make that presumption. He states he's sorry, and he may actually be so. However, I would never trust him and would never do business with him or associate with him. His reputation in the business world is tarnished permanently. He'll be seen as a liability wherever he goes.
As much as I admire Jordan Belfort; we all have to agree he's a complete liar. He doesn't care anything about his victims; his response of "I don't want to intrude on other people's lives" and quickly looks away when Piers asked him why he doesn't give any apology proves it. Not to mention he's only paid back barley even $250K on his debt. He starts talking fast and jumps around in his seat a lot whenever he talks about his "shame" and just has that blank face. I think Jordan is an amazing salesman and he's defiantly somebody to listen to and look up to -- but at the same time, he couldn't give a shit about any of this.
***** I was a broker too in the 90's. Not at that level but did very well. We were all pieces of shit and I regret it. This guy continues to victimize where the people he burned get to see him played by Leo and first hand view how they got fuked.
I love how all of a sudden everyone feels so compassionate for the top 1% who lost money to this guy. It's also important to note that there hasn't been anyone who lost their 'life savings'. And it's also important to note that these rich dentists and architects who bought into these stocks were trying to get rich themselves. They bought penny stocks because they were sold on getting rich quick. It was their own greed, the same greed Belfort had, that sold them out! In my opinion it was just as much as their fault as his, i.e. 50%. Of course that doesn't mean it's okay to steal. It doesn't matter if a person can afford to lose money or not. Stealing is stealing. But at the same token, why is it okay to tax the rich more because they can afford it? Why is it commonly viewed in the public eye as okay and acceptable for the government to implement higher taxes on the rich (which to me is theft, because it's against their will), but when this guy transferred the wealth from the rich to the poor it was a crime?
He didn't transferred the money from the rich to the poor, but to himself. He abused of the rich because they were much more profitable, but he started doing it to the poor. Anyway, I don't think this is a matter of who gets stolen, but rather of the intention to steal. And frankly it is anoying to see how a scum like this is now selling himself as a successful business man, evidently his measure of success is all twisted, but if people pay for his conferences, then there is also something wrong with people.
adparos Well the logic goes as follows: He WAS poor. So if he transferred the money to himself then it must follow that he transferred the money to the poor (himself). He also turned over 1200 high school and college drop outs (who were also poor) into millionaire's. Another point to mention is that the only way he was able to sell these shit stocks was because the clients he sold them too were just as greedy as he was and when you are buying a stock, especially a penny stock, you know the risks NO MATTER WHAT the stock broker tells you. See in part he is a good sales man, but they were also an easy sell. They were sold on the get rich quick dream. HOW many people get conned everyday to get rich quick schemes, in legal ways I may add, simply because they didn't know any better? Hell not even get rich quick schemes, what about the used car that you thought was in good running condition? Is it really the duty of the sales-man to protect you from buying crap? We have to be real and honest with ourselves. I don't approve of what he did, but the moral of the story isn't just that he's a scumbag who took advantage of others. The real lesson here is to protect yourself from scums and con-men like him. The real lesson is that no body in this world owes you some sort of favor or guarantee or protection! Protect your own goddamn self. Don't expect humans to go against their own intrinsic human nature and put YOUR best interest ahead of theirs. That's the moral of the story.
Thank you for your reply. Let me tell you why I still disagree with you: I guess not even yourself buy your “logical” argument of him being poor as valid proof of proper behavior. I am sure you know the difference between someone stealing to compensate others, from stealing with the wicked purpose to enrich yourself at the expense of anyone. Being poor does not justify abusing from those who are not, otherwise what is the difference between Belfort’s actions and those of say virtual kidnappers who are also poor? None of them is making physical harm and both are deceiving other humans, the only difference is that Belfort offers a non-existent benefit whereas the kidnappers send a non-real threat. The purpose is exactly the same, to steal from others, and certainly the means do not justify the end. With regard to the so many people that you argue benefited from Belfort, I would say two things: First they were but collateral benefactors, Belfort needed them to expand his business and get richer and richer; and as you know he ensured he was recruiting dishonest people, not people with ethics or integrity but rather people who, just as he did, would value money above all, and would not hesitate to step on others to accomplish their monetary objective. So he did not make others wealthy out of noble reasons but out of necessity, the necessity to accomplish his selfish goal; and my second point stands in support for this. Second, in the long run he ended up damaging most of those people he had benefited, he betrayed them to save his ass, and put them into jail, others ended up unemployed and with a dubious curricular record (although perhaps in wall-street this is unimportant). So his Robin Hood attitude was neither intended nor sustainable. You then state that people deserved it because they were greedy. Let me remind you that (at least according to the movie) he started selling these junk stocks to poor people who do not necessarily invest on them out of greed but of despair. People do all sorts of crazy things when dealing with poverty: some engage in virtual kidnapping, others decide to cheat people and sell them shit, and others decide to buy such shit, obviously the latter took the most naïve choice, but the honest one, so rather than greedy I would say they were naïve and desperate. He only switched to the rich because they were more profitable. Now, let us assume that all the rich are greedy. Is that a condition to deserve being cheated? Clearly not. I guess we all dislike greed, but greed is a defect not a crime, and it is obvious that investors engaged in buying stock at their own peril, while Belfort sold stock to benefit himself at the expense of others. In any case a wrongdoing does not justify another wrongdoing. The strange thing here is that you know all this and still decide to stand up for him, and even attempt to defend your position. It is a bit contradictory that you acknowledge yourself that what Belfort did was wrong and yet depict him as a Robin Hood type hero. I guess your conclusion gives a hint for this apparent contradiction. I mean no offense but the conclusion that we are all here to scratch with our own nails, is exactly the one that Belfort would have also ended up with. It is the dominant paradigm for wall-street, the one that dominates western nations (guided primarily by the U.S.) a paradigm that fosters individualism at the expense of collectivism, and that if matched with a priority system that favors money over all creates and justifies conducts such as that of Belfort. I do not know of anyone who having embraced this paradigm and system of values ends up being a happy and satisfied person. Unavoidably this combination leads to dissatisfaction and excesses: more drugs, more money, more sex, more power. There is no point of satisfaction, and there will never be, because money is not end in itself but a mean to different ends. Needless to say there are studies that show that beyond a certain threshold richer people are not happier. Of course saying this would sound silly to many people who have internalized your individualistic paradigm, if money is God (as Leonardo DiCaprio stated in an interview) nothing else makes sense. The irony, is that even from a purely egoistic and economic point of view, cooperation is actually a much more effective and sustainable strategy than competition. I do not say that competition does not have benefits, but competing with deceit will only bring short term benefits, in the long run only trust relationships last. Now to end up let me say that I do not want to put a rope in Belfort’s throat, nor I wish him more years in jail. He has all the right to amend his life and go on with it. What I do not like is people seeing him as an aspirational leader and a successful businessman, and even pay to get to see him in action and learn his methods. He might be a very capable speaker, an outstanding one if you like, but he was never a businessman but a fraudster, and more worrying, depicting him as a hero fosters the egoistic and hedonistic paradigm that so much dominates wall-street and that leads to a worse society, one that resembles the one you believe we already live in. Lucky for us there are people who believe in us as a community and who act ethically, responsibly and even sometimes selflessly, otherwise I could not explain the actions of Oscar Schindler. Best.
+adparos You are right. I say that what Belfort did was wrong AND I paint him as a Robin Hood type hero. All to say that the idea of Robin Hood is flawed. You are right to say that it's wrong to steal from the rich, I agree with that. In my eyes, it doesn't matter what the person who stole DOES with the money, it still does not justify the theft. It does NOT matter what the person's ideologies and values are, whether they are greedy or not (the theives), it still does not justify the theft. Theft is theft, and is no more wrong than if a rich person steals from a rich, or a poor from a rich, or a rich from a poor, or a poor from a poor. Theft is theft. There is another debate here though. That debate is not Belfort vs Robin Hood, it might be Capitalism vs Socialism, but going even deeper than that, it is essentially Individualism vs Collectivism, respectively. Of course, with these sort of debates there is always a problem with the definitions of words. My definition of say individualism and collectivism and your definition of it may be very different entirely. I'm sure if we agreed on the definitions themselves we would come to an agreement as well. From my perspective, under Individualism you are responsible for yourself and no body else. You may be as selfish as you please, so long as you do not harm others or their private property. As you pointed out, and I agree with this; it may not be very wise to be selfish all of the time. There may be times when it would be advantageous for a whole society to cooperate collectively. The beauty of Individualism is, of course, that no body is stopping you from becoming as selfless as your philanthropic heart would desire! Under the definition of Collectivism though, it's the opposite. You are responsible for everyone else BUT yourself! That may sound odd, but it's true. If you are responsible for everyone else that invariably means everyone else is responsible for you. People SHOULD be responsible for themselves AND everyone else under Collectivism, but the flaw is in that their individual responsibility has been lifted off their shoulders by everyone else! Why is it that people care less about public property than private property? I'm glad you brought up Schindler, because he was fighting against the very system of value in which you mention, namely collectivism. He is a great example of an Individualist being able to act Collectively. But just because he did does not make him a Collectivist. Hitler was a Collectivist! He thought he knew what was in the best interest of the greater good, whether they agreed with him or not. And he really truly believed that what he was doing was for the "greater good"! Nazi soldiers were not responsible for their own actions and they could kill mercilessly because it wasn't "them" who killed but the "state". Their responsibility for their own actions was lifted by the state, i.e. everyone else. Of course, I am going into extremes now and a little off topic, but I am just trying to illustrate what Collectivism really means and what Individualism really means. At least what I understand them to mean. In a sense I agree with you and your point that a person with a paradigm and a system in which they value greed to be good and money to be God, is very flawed and will inevitably cause a lot of dissatisfaction to that person. I agree with you because that is not my paradigm. What I disagree with is forcing your own paradigm and system of values onto another person! For example you say that you do not know of a person who had that paradigm and ended up happy and satisfied. Well that is also flawed to say because what you and I define as happiness and satisfaction may be very different than what another person defines it as. It could even be argued that a drug user is a happy and satisfied individual. Albeit ONLY when he has his drugs! Of course, you meant did they end up happy and satisfied. Well, that's hard to say too because when does a person "end up" in their lifetime? It's very hard to measure this sort of thing and it's impossible to place a 'suitable' system of values onto that person. The only system of values that I can think of is one that any individual can determine what is right for them, because at the end of the day it is our own responsibility to find happiness and satisfaction, because as an individual you are the only one who can define what those things mean to you. Lastly, as an individual I do NOT view money as God and above all. I also do not view it as the root of all evil. It is no more evil than the person who possess's it. What is money? Money, surely as any other idea that the human mind ever invented, is a TOOL. A tool of exchange. It is a material shape created by men who wish to exchange value for value. When you accept money in payment for your effort whether it is a service or a product, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for someone else's effort. If you didn't, you wouldn't do the trade. If you believe that Individualism values money over all, then you are mistaken. Individualism does NOT value money as it's God. It values MEN.
Jordan Belfort is not ashamed of what he did. He is a con man. Con Men do not feel bad about it. They are all about themselves. I am starting a financial firm and I just signed Jordan as an outside consultant.
Jordan is an incredible speaker. I don't buy for a second he's remorseful. He's just sorry he got caught. This guy could sell me a pen any day. I'm a sheep. He's a shark and will always be a shark. Some of the stories he tells are made up because it makes him seem larger than life. Some of his partners have came out and said some of his stories are fabricated. His gain from being larger than life is that he can make more money by being a motivational speaker and selling books. He's still very wealthy.
I really disagree with the interviewer because Belfort is clearly trying to converse respectfully and he is getting slapped in the face with questions like a child
piers is the kinda guy that shows up to a funeral and speaks badly about the dead. Piers is the kinda guy who argues with his wife, makes up, and then turn around and say "but you do understand your wrong though?"
I am sure that he would apologize to people if he felt that it would be well received and that would be the end of it. The problem is that when it comes to money people don't forgive. What he is doing is trying to give them some financial restitution and that is his apology.
I think interestingly that when Piers Morgan was in newspaper journalism, he too de-humanised from the people who he reported on had their privacy so very invaded and put out there for the world to read. They just became names and news story. Has Piers ever apologised to anyone (Amanda Holden as one example) who's lives were invaded by his chosen profession. Jordan cannot change the past, he has served and is moving on in the best way he can.
jjmdirector Why is investing considered greedy and some of these people worked hard all their life for everything they had and they were not rich and he lies and says he paid his victims but he still has not
Greedy? Everyone is out here trying to make a living making wise investments. Or you could just live paycheck to paycheck till you kick the bucket that sounds like fun.
jjmdirector I don't see how being an investor normally makes a person greedy when sometimes they have to wait years even decades for that money to grow because it is often slow growth but something reliable... and to me that makes a lot of sense to just invest the money and let it grow. What shocks me is how many people don't feel this guy is a greedy scummy con artist who still has not paid back restitution to his victims but in the meantime after destroying people's lives he is living really well if you do your research it all can be found out here.
It isn't greedy it's being smart. People like him just work like dogs living paycheck to paycheck till they die and never make sound money decisions that give them the freedom to live life to the fullest.
People like Jordan Belfort never change or own up to it. He's a genius in marketing--do you cunts REALLY believe he's owned up to it? If you look it up online he has not paid back shit--only $11 million out of a 100 million. He's extremely manipulative to make sure he has some supporters out there still defend him--he's played around with words and has agreed to as many personal interviews as possible to say "Yeah I'm the bad guy but I'm so good at this, right?" and seem relatable to others. He's not relatable, he's manipulative, he will never change. Oh, and I could care less whether you believe me or not and play my comment off as being "jealous." Just goes to show how deep under your skin this man's lies have crawled into.
I admire this guys selling skills, but don't get it twisted what he did to people was utterly disgusting point blank and I hope he is truly truly remorseful. I hope his victims were able to bounce back and recover from the atrocities Jordan committed against them.
I think that Belfort is Taking Actions to Right his wrongs. What more can you expect him to do? Most Con Artists never admit their wrongs (proves he's not a narcissist) and none to my knowledge have tried to make amends. He was a drug user, surrounded by drug users---making a lot of money. At least he's trying to repay money and pay fines for past mistakes. I like what he say about Remorse vs. Shame. You can tell he's given this some thought.
jjsiegal1 It was a 4 year sentence but he snitched on everyone involved. It's like when a drug dealer gets caught with crack. 20 years can be shortened to 10 or less if you give names of all the dealers you have worked with. Funny justice system.
He really does owe these people who he stole from an apology. He's trying to do the right thing, but it starts with an apology. I'm sure those he stole from would give him hell for even apologizing, but at least it would be an effort. Stealing is wrong in all forms, but especially stealing money from hardworking people is just wrong.
Why would he want to meet his victims? He would be putting himself in a dangerous situation that wouldn't help anyone. Paying the victims back would be the best thing and maybe something extra for the damage he has done.
If you'd have been one of the richest people in the country and lived an absolutely amazing life, would you really care that people lost money? They're fine. They're alive. It's just money.
What a film wolf of Wall Street is, looking at Jordan in the interview you wouldn't think he done some of the things he done, but he destroyed a lot of people lives In what he was doing and I think now he's in a better place he should consider meeting the victims and talk to them face to face
pierce morgan. if i was being critical i would ask you what you think these people would rather have. an emotional apology from jordan or some of their money back?
And see that's what people don't understand. I would have did it too. I'm in construction and I will fight my ass off for my company to make money and I don't even own it.
anyone who is saying this guy isn't cocky, and arrogant and narcissistic has really fallen for the tricks that sociopaths have. doesn't stop wolf of wall street being a terrific movie, but i still wouldn't trust this man with anything i own because he would take it from me shamelessly and guiltlessly. He has no remorse this is a lie.
Why does Pierce Morgan still have a job? He could be talking to a serial killer and I'd find more empathy for the killer than Morgan himself, just from having to listen to him talk.
At last someone holds Jordan Belfort to account for his actions and goes 'Paxman' on him, instead of brown-nosing him and allowing his personal charm and charisma to deflect the real issue; HE STILL OWES $100M IN RESTITUTION!!!!
I don't believe he has remorse whatsoever. if you listen carefully when Piers asks him at the human level whether he cares for his wrongs aside from the financial payback he has committed to (that is just money he can easily make it) he sort of didn't addressed the question directly. Also, when he starts to repeat the last question on whether he would meet someone he scammed just shows he was trying to think what to answer and then finally said he would definitely do it which proves to me he was lying. If that was true he would have answered immediately. Nonetheless, I believe that as long as he can use his great skills ethically he is doing great.
This man did his time. What's he gonna do? Go around and apologise to every person he duped? No! That shits not realistic! What he's doing now, THAT'S him giving back! Why do ppl have to continue to go after him is fuckin stupid!
You will believe in his words. You will see him from good side of his character- you know why? Because it's Jordan Belfort. He earned millions of dollars talking. Saying things. He is better than perfect in this art of acting. Probably if he wouldn't be stupid and greedy to much, he still could be millionaire. But I'm not jugging, hell I would love to have just a small part of his talent in my head.
how is piers morgan allowed to do this job? he epitomises modern media who only ask negative questions to try and invoke an negative reactions. the guy was early 20's when he did what he did but he did his time, he is repaying the money and he should be recognised for that too. piers is no match for this guy and he embarrasses himself.
He is a brilliant sales man and is full of shit. He needs to pay those victims back. I see that he has taken his scan game to Australia now. He needs to actually take his talents like Frank Abignale did and use them for good not evil. Criminals can be brilliant too but should not be defended. The fact that he has continued to involve himself in scamming people is very disappointing.
1:44 "Action speaks louder than words" a funny sentence comming from someone that 7 years later still hasn't payed his victims 100 mln dollars. This man is pure liar.
Finally I can see a journalist telling this guy right in the eyes (frankly by asking a question) what he thinks about what this guy did. It's sure is still about money and paying it bak to the ones who lost it (I think I've heard that Belfort paid off about 10 or 20% of what he defraud), but we still live in a humanbeing world, whether somebody likes it or not). Also I want to underline - I'm not the one to judge the journalist or Belfort - still the truth stands somewhere around the middle.
Agree. Although, I see where people get the "Piers is a cunt" from. But this question was a hard, very fair question to ask, and it actually made Jordan think for a second. I get the sense of speculation from critics of Jordan that compare him to an alcoholic: one will always be an alcoholic, but they can change certain ways about themselves so that they can avoid the consequences of their problem. I'm not sure if there's any truth to that, and it's not right to assume it either. I think you're right that the truth is somewhere in the middle, but only Jordan truly knows, and if he's being honest, then I can accept that he's learned and really changed how he thinks. KaptinSir What you said made no sense (Piers paying victims). What Piers was extracting out of Jordan was pretty fair to ask. Does he empathy? To the victims, it certainly wasn't just about money. Being ripped off, betrayed, and deceived is the worst thing to feel from someone else - even Jordan admitted before, it was personal to some of his victims. Basically, the point was that Jordan didn't see the victims as people, and that they were worth less than dirt. Piers wanted to gather what Jordan has learned about empathy (if he has any at all). It would be _really_ interesting to see a victim and Jordan to have a one on one. That would be something to see. If Jordan want's to really be a transparent businessman, he would be able to do that.
I would love to see a documentary on the victim's talking about what they lost and how he negatively impacted their lives and as of May of 2018 he still hasn't paid his victims but he lives very very well you better believe it and he lies and says he has paid his victims but as of 2 months ago the government is threatening to put his sorry ass back in jail.. he never should have been allowed out anyway.
You can say what ever you want about Jordan. But he is smart. He earned a lot of money. BIG money. I mean..come on! 25 million? I dont give a shit about your wallet
cant cure a sociopath and a narcissist. you notice that he says he hasnt met any of the people he stole from and that he as fixing the problem the best that HE can. ell its not about YOU Jordan, its about ho the others wantto be made hole and that might mean spitting in your face, so hy dont you find some courage and face these people like a man
I suspect were this guy to face some of the financial victims a bodyguard might be useful in case some blunt force trauma occurred. The debt to society may be paid in his head and the eyes of the law but paying people back with compound interest would be nice.
I don't know who Jordans Target Market was, but they were Gamblers to fall for a pitch over the phone. Gambling is a sickness related to Greed. We all want something for nothing. Greed is a sickness within each of us and it has to be controlled. Some company wanted to hire me to work overseas to pitch Options. There Target Market...."People who have gambling problems!" They know their target market, if proposition in the right manor, would Gamble their savings or whatever money they had, but they didn't care. There goal was to "get the money." UNBELIEVABLE that companies like Jordan's Still exist !
YESTERDAY YOU SAID TODAY AND TODAY YOU SAID TOMORROW. WHEN YOU BECOME SO AFRAID TO INVEST INTO YOUR FUTURE, WEALTH BECOMES SO AFRAID OF REACHING YOU MOST POOR PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO CLAIM TO BE TOO WISE TO INVEST INTO A PLATFORM THAT WORKS FOR OTHERS.FOREX IS ACTUALLY THE BEST THING TO THINK ABOUT
vc vê claramente q o cara não demonstra qualquer empatia por ninguém, sempre o mesmo semblante "acho terrível" mas vc vê que ele não liga, é da boca pra fora, um típico narcisista psicopata, como muitos que existem por ai. Certamente se não tivesse sido pego e ficado 4 anos na cadeia continuaria fazendo sem remorso oq fazia, porque, mesmo hoje, como se percebe (e como ele mesmo assume) não se envergonha. Achei o filme até bem feito mas relativizar oq e ele fez, achar "cool" ou romantizar o crime que foi cometido contra pessoas humildes (maior parte de suas vitimas foram pequenos investidores, professores aposentados, etc) é não saber separar ficção da realidade, o cara hoje vai a SP e dá palestras que lotam as salas, sobre "motivação", "sucesso"... sério que as pessoas esqueceram que esse cidadão é um criminoso? ou sabem o que ele é, mas não se importam? me preocupa essa sociedade em que vivemos.
The more I watch this, the more i feel frustrated with Piers. Yes Jordan is a conman and served jail time for it , but this interview style is nothing more than a witch hunt. We already know these victims got screwed over. Does a rapist get out of jail and then go looking for the victim to apologise ? Jordan (with all his flaws) handled himself quite well.
I´m sorry but, am I seeing it wrongly or those people were wealthy and most of them greedy investors who were trying to increase their own wealth as quickly as possible? We are not talking about middle class families who went bankrupt! They knew that Wall Street is a nasty place full of wolves... I´m not saying that what Jordan did is acceptable, I´m just saying that no matter the reasons, he is doing the right thing and he doesn´t have to call everybody to apologise! Those guys, don´t want an apology, they want their money back... I´m wondering if Piers Morgan is one of them! What does he want!? An apology and a kiss...!?
Nelson Pinto ...my dear, I can't believe you fell for the lies ...there is actually a vid here on TH-cam If you say victim of Jordan Belfort speaks out.. you will hear an old man talking about how they got his $80,000 and in the end of the vid you will hear him say how it really created problems for him and he had to remortgage his house and pay the difference .. ....and believe it or not a lot of his victims were middle class people and even upper working-class class people who worked hard for everything they had.. .... and there is nothing wrong with playing the stock market .. ...I don't know why you're defending him ...why is it okay for him to rip off people many of whom were very hard-working. ... Why do you defend a criminal who lies and pretends he feels bad about it when he certainly doesn't and has not paid off his victims yet and yet you will find vids of how well he lives... he lives like a king and only 2 months ago the government threatened to put him back in jail if he doesn't pay his victims... so what does this tell you ? Also how do you think you would feel if it was all of YOUR money that you had worked hard for that he took and kept. ...how would you feel if it was your parents or your grandparents ...what in the world is wrong with your thinking ..? Jordan Belfort lies and lies and lies... I just can't understand why so many people eat that up and don't question anything he says... it's like they don't realize the guy is still a scammer.
I really hate this Pierce Morgan. He always steps out of his duties as a journalist. He always puts his opinion in front of every interview. Tha is why I do not watch this program.
The real life Jordan Belfort comes across as more intelligent than the character in the movie
the character in the movie is Belfort being young and crazy. is the same person, only this enterview is now, with him being an adult person who has learned a lot in his journey
Still has the same, utterly unlikable personality
Obviously. He did pull off a multi-million dollar scheme. None the less he is a crook and a piece of shit. Anyone who views him as an icon or someone to "learn from" are the same.
He destroyed countless lives with his schemes. People had to sell their homes, refuse money to their children, etc. Because of what he did. He deserves to be shot.
Actually the opposite is true. And that's saying a lot because the movie vetsion is plenty moronic
You can learn a lot from this guy. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Jordan clearly defeats Piers!! Great answers by him!
J. Raymon piers was not defeated.. people who have eyes and ears know exactly what the game is and what the score is
That's all you have, "Hooray!" for a scumbag? What are you moron or shill?
Belfort acts very professionally under pressure, keeping calm and reasonable is a good thing
The way Piers kept pushing and pushing made him sound so self-righteous.
You should’ve seen the true “full” interview. He berates Jordan even further, even brings up his parents to shame him. I notice CNN cut that out of their TH-cam clips 🤔
Hang on. Is that Piers Morgan trying to have moral high ground?
As always
Haha, he's such a joke
Jordan Belfort is an amazing PR guy. Piers Morgan kept trying to trap him the entire interview but he just faced it like a pro in the best possible way possible.
Piers is dispicable
That's all you have, Piers id despicable? What are you moron or shill?
@@noitall13 usually i can't stand piers but when he is with a steaming pile of manure psychopath he actually comes across as having a moral fiber
You know what annoys me? He's only the villain because he broke the law. He could have cost people their life savings in an immoral but legal way and no one would have batted an eyelid, he'd be a hero. The majority of the money he made was actually legitimate, only a small fraction was illegal. The system itself is broken.
CNN should fire Piers Morgan
You was right
Belfort isn't remorseful. Rather, he wants to be perceived as remorseful. He wants to sell the idea. It is his latest con. And people are stupid. They will believe him.
Simon Farre
fuck should be in jail for 30 years
ArmandoBellagio it´s an unbelievably huge sum of money he owes the people and the government, selling his story in a book isn´t gonna get him even close to this sum ...
Maybe...
Ha! That is not the American way. He got sentenced to a fine in the millions but typically the system here is much harder on the poor.
Simon Farre I think it's also a matter of principle. He's legally obligated to pay back his stolen money. That doesn't mean he's in his heart sorry for what he did.
But I'm not going to make that presumption. He states he's sorry, and he may actually be so. However, I would never trust him and would never do business with him or associate with him. His reputation in the business world is tarnished permanently. He'll be seen as a liability wherever he goes.
What they refuse to show is how many people he helped.
As much as I admire Jordan Belfort; we all have to agree he's a complete liar. He doesn't care anything about his victims; his response of "I don't want to intrude on other people's lives" and quickly looks away when Piers asked him why he doesn't give any apology proves it. Not to mention he's only paid back barley even $250K on his debt. He starts talking fast and jumps around in his seat a lot whenever he talks about his "shame" and just has that blank face. I think Jordan is an amazing salesman and he's defiantly somebody to listen to and look up to -- but at the same time, he couldn't give a shit about any of this.
***** I was a broker too in the 90's. Not at that level but did very well. We were all pieces of shit and I regret it. This guy continues to victimize where the people he burned get to see him played by Leo and first hand view how they got fuked.
***** if you could make millions in a year would you give a fuck?
You meant *definitely
DRKWxd hes paid back over 19 million of his $110m restitution
he is selling shit, not rob them, so it"s not 100% his fault, if people not stupid and greedy, it wont happened
I have so much respect for Mr Belfort. He gets ripped into all the time and he responds so well to it!
He's the master at it
I love how all of a sudden everyone feels so compassionate for the top 1% who lost money to this guy.
It's also important to note that there hasn't been anyone who lost their 'life savings'.
And it's also important to note that these rich dentists and architects who bought into these stocks were trying to get rich themselves. They bought penny stocks because they were sold on getting rich quick. It was their own greed, the same greed Belfort had, that sold them out! In my opinion it was just as much as their fault as his, i.e. 50%.
Of course that doesn't mean it's okay to steal.
It doesn't matter if a person can afford to lose money or not. Stealing is stealing.
But at the same token, why is it okay to tax the rich more because they can afford it?
Why is it commonly viewed in the public eye as okay and acceptable for the government to implement higher taxes on the rich (which to me is theft, because it's against their will), but when this guy transferred the wealth from the rich to the poor it was a crime?
He didn't transferred the money from the rich to the poor, but to himself. He abused of the rich because they were much more profitable, but he started doing it to the poor. Anyway, I don't think this is a matter of who gets stolen, but rather of the intention to steal. And frankly it is anoying to see how a scum like this is now selling himself as a successful business man, evidently his measure of success is all twisted, but if people pay for his conferences, then there is also something wrong with people.
adparos
Well the logic goes as follows: He WAS poor. So if he transferred the money to himself then it must follow that he transferred the money to the poor (himself). He also turned over 1200 high school and college drop outs (who were also poor) into millionaire's.
Another point to mention is that the only way he was able to sell these shit stocks was because the clients he sold them too were just as greedy as he was and when you are buying a stock, especially a penny stock, you know the risks NO MATTER WHAT the stock broker tells you.
See in part he is a good sales man, but they were also an easy sell.
They were sold on the get rich quick dream.
HOW many people get conned everyday to get rich quick schemes, in legal ways I may add, simply because they didn't know any better?
Hell not even get rich quick schemes, what about the used car that you thought was in good running condition?
Is it really the duty of the sales-man to protect you from buying crap?
We have to be real and honest with ourselves.
I don't approve of what he did, but the moral of the story isn't just that he's a scumbag who took advantage of others.
The real lesson here is to protect yourself from scums and con-men like him.
The real lesson is that no body in this world owes you some sort of favor or guarantee or protection!
Protect your own goddamn self.
Don't expect humans to go against their own intrinsic human nature and put YOUR best interest ahead of theirs. That's the moral of the story.
Thank you for your reply. Let me tell you why I still disagree with you: I guess not even yourself buy your “logical” argument of him being poor as valid proof of proper behavior. I am sure you know the difference between someone stealing to compensate others, from stealing with the wicked purpose to enrich yourself at the expense of anyone. Being poor does not justify abusing from those who are not, otherwise what is the difference between Belfort’s actions and those of say virtual kidnappers who are also poor? None of them is making physical harm and both are deceiving other humans, the only difference is that Belfort offers a non-existent benefit whereas the kidnappers send a non-real threat. The purpose is exactly the same, to steal from others, and certainly the means do not justify the end.
With regard to the so many people that you argue benefited from Belfort, I would say two things: First they were but collateral benefactors, Belfort needed them to expand his business and get richer and richer; and as you know he ensured he was recruiting dishonest people, not people with ethics or integrity but rather people who, just as he did, would value money above all, and would not hesitate to step on others to accomplish their monetary objective. So he did not make others wealthy out of noble reasons but out of necessity, the necessity to accomplish his selfish goal; and my second point stands in support for this. Second, in the long run he ended up damaging most of those people he had benefited, he betrayed them to save his ass, and put them into jail, others ended up unemployed and with a dubious curricular record (although perhaps in wall-street this is unimportant). So his Robin Hood attitude was neither intended nor sustainable.
You then state that people deserved it because they were greedy. Let me remind you that (at least according to the movie) he started selling these junk stocks to poor people who do not necessarily invest on them out of greed but of despair. People do all sorts of crazy things when dealing with poverty: some engage in virtual kidnapping, others decide to cheat people and sell them shit, and others decide to buy such shit, obviously the latter took the most naïve choice, but the honest one, so rather than greedy I would say they were naïve and desperate. He only switched to the rich because they were more profitable. Now, let us assume that all the rich are greedy. Is that a condition to deserve being cheated? Clearly not. I guess we all dislike greed, but greed is a defect not a crime, and it is obvious that investors engaged in buying stock at their own peril, while Belfort sold stock to benefit himself at the expense of others. In any case a wrongdoing does not justify another wrongdoing.
The strange thing here is that you know all this and still decide to stand up for him, and even attempt to defend your position. It is a bit contradictory that you acknowledge yourself that what Belfort did was wrong and yet depict him as a Robin Hood type hero. I guess your conclusion gives a hint for this apparent contradiction. I mean no offense but the conclusion that we are all here to scratch with our own nails, is exactly the one that Belfort would have also ended up with. It is the dominant paradigm for wall-street, the one that dominates western nations (guided primarily by the U.S.) a paradigm that fosters individualism at the expense of collectivism, and that if matched with a priority system that favors money over all creates and justifies conducts such as that of Belfort. I do not know of anyone who having embraced this paradigm and system of values ends up being a happy and satisfied person. Unavoidably this combination leads to dissatisfaction and excesses: more drugs, more money, more sex, more power. There is no point of satisfaction, and there will never be, because money is not end in itself but a mean to different ends. Needless to say there are studies that show that beyond a certain threshold richer people are not happier. Of course saying this would sound silly to many people who have internalized your individualistic paradigm, if money is God (as Leonardo DiCaprio stated in an interview) nothing else makes sense. The irony, is that even from a purely egoistic and economic point of view, cooperation is actually a much more effective and sustainable strategy than competition. I do not say that competition does not have benefits, but competing with deceit will only bring short term benefits, in the long run only trust relationships last.
Now to end up let me say that I do not want to put a rope in Belfort’s throat, nor I wish him more years in jail. He has all the right to amend his life and go on with it. What I do not like is people seeing him as an aspirational leader and a successful businessman, and even pay to get to see him in action and learn his methods. He might be a very capable speaker, an outstanding one if you like, but he was never a businessman but a fraudster, and more worrying, depicting him as a hero fosters the egoistic and hedonistic paradigm that so much dominates wall-street and that leads to a worse society, one that resembles the one you believe we already live in. Lucky for us there are people who believe in us as a community and who act ethically, responsibly and even sometimes selflessly, otherwise I could not explain the actions of Oscar Schindler.
Best.
+adparos
You are right. I say that what Belfort did was wrong AND I paint him as a Robin Hood type hero. All to say that the idea of Robin Hood is flawed.
You are right to say that it's wrong to steal from the rich, I agree with that. In my eyes, it doesn't matter what the person who stole DOES with the money, it still does not justify the theft.
It does NOT matter what the person's ideologies and values are, whether they are greedy or not (the theives), it still does not justify the theft.
Theft is theft, and is no more wrong than if a rich person steals from a rich, or a poor from a rich, or a rich from a poor, or a poor from a poor. Theft is theft.
There is another debate here though.
That debate is not Belfort vs Robin Hood, it might be Capitalism vs Socialism, but going even deeper than that, it is essentially Individualism vs Collectivism, respectively.
Of course, with these sort of debates there is always a problem with the definitions of words. My definition of say individualism and collectivism and your definition of it may be very different entirely.
I'm sure if we agreed on the definitions themselves we would come to an agreement as well.
From my perspective, under Individualism you are responsible for yourself and no body else. You may be as selfish as you please, so long as you do not harm others or their private property. As you pointed out, and I agree with this; it may not be very wise to be selfish all of the time. There may be times when it would be advantageous for a whole society to cooperate collectively. The beauty of Individualism is, of course, that no body is stopping you from becoming as selfless as your philanthropic heart would desire!
Under the definition of Collectivism though, it's the opposite. You are responsible for everyone else BUT yourself!
That may sound odd, but it's true. If you are responsible for everyone else that invariably means everyone else is responsible for you.
People SHOULD be responsible for themselves AND everyone else under Collectivism, but the flaw is in that their individual responsibility has been lifted off their shoulders by everyone else!
Why is it that people care less about public property than private property?
I'm glad you brought up Schindler, because he was fighting against the very system of value in which you mention, namely collectivism. He is a great example of an Individualist being able to act Collectively. But just because he did does not make him a Collectivist.
Hitler was a Collectivist! He thought he knew what was in the best interest of the greater good, whether they agreed with him or not. And he really truly believed that what he was doing was for the "greater good"! Nazi soldiers were not responsible for their own actions and they could kill mercilessly because it wasn't "them" who killed but the "state". Their responsibility for their own actions was lifted by the state, i.e. everyone else.
Of course, I am going into extremes now and a little off topic, but I am just trying to illustrate what Collectivism really means and what Individualism really means. At least what I understand them to mean.
In a sense I agree with you and your point that a person with a paradigm and a system in which they value greed to be good and money to be God, is very flawed and will inevitably cause a lot of dissatisfaction to that person. I agree with you because that is not my paradigm. What I disagree with is forcing your own paradigm and system of values onto another person!
For example you say that you do not know of a person who had that paradigm and ended up happy and satisfied. Well that is also flawed to say because what you and I define as happiness and satisfaction may be very different than what another person defines it as. It could even be argued that a drug user is a happy and satisfied individual. Albeit ONLY when he has his drugs!
Of course, you meant did they end up happy and satisfied. Well, that's hard to say too because when does a person "end up" in their lifetime?
It's very hard to measure this sort of thing and it's impossible to place a 'suitable' system of values onto that person. The only system of values that I can think of is one that any individual can determine what is right for them, because at the end of the day it is our own responsibility to find happiness and satisfaction, because as an individual you are the only one who can define what those things mean to you.
Lastly, as an individual I do NOT view money as God and above all. I also do not view it as the root of all evil. It is no more evil than the person who possess's it.
What is money? Money, surely as any other idea that the human mind ever invented, is a TOOL. A tool of exchange. It is a material shape created by men who wish to exchange value for value. When you accept money in payment for your effort whether it is a service or a product, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for someone else's effort. If you didn't, you wouldn't do the trade.
If you believe that Individualism values money over all, then you are mistaken. Individualism does NOT value money as it's God. It values MEN.
Jordan Belfort is not ashamed of what he did. He is a con man. Con Men do not feel bad about it. They are all about themselves. I am starting a financial firm and I just signed Jordan as an outside consultant.
Why would you let people know that...? Lol
Jordan is an incredible speaker. I don't buy for a second he's remorseful. He's just sorry he got caught. This guy could sell me a pen any day. I'm a sheep. He's a shark and will always be a shark. Some of the stories he tells are made up because it makes him seem larger than life. Some of his partners have came out and said some of his stories are fabricated. His gain from being larger than life is that he can make more money by being a motivational speaker and selling books. He's still very wealthy.
his partners were portrayed involuntarily in a tell all book so of course they will deny
Jordan Belfort is so disgusting I can't believe people admire him
@@gardensofthegods the american dream bitch, no matter how ugly the process is people want security
@@legalbeagle122 your everything that's wrong with humans today.
@@lillyypondsxz8027 yes u live in a fantasy world where everything must be delivered to you on a silver platter, but im whats wrong with humanity
I really disagree with the interviewer because Belfort is clearly trying to converse respectfully and he is getting slapped in the face with questions like a child
Where’s the full version where Piers berated him and got extremely personal bringing up his parents in order to shame him even more??
Jesus I wish piers would actually let him speak for more than 5 seconds at a time. So infuriating to watch.
piers is the kinda guy that shows up to a funeral and speaks badly about the dead.
Piers is the kinda guy who argues with his wife, makes up, and then turn around and say "but you do understand your wrong though?"
HA
Lost 3 minutes 28 seconds of my life I'm never getting back, to Piers Morgan.
Hearing Jordan Belfort talk makes me realize how perfect Leo DiCaprio played him lol
He says he regrets but his face says: "I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKK BIATCH!"
I am sure that he would apologize to people if he felt that it would be well received and that would be the end of it. The problem is that when it comes to money people don't forgive. What he is doing is trying to give them some financial restitution and that is his apology.
How can he apologize?
but the real statement to be made here is - sell me this pen
I think interestingly that when Piers Morgan was in newspaper journalism, he too de-humanised from the people who he reported on had their privacy so very invaded and put out there for the world to read. They just became names and news story.
Has Piers ever apologised to anyone (Amanda Holden as one example) who's lives were invaded by his chosen profession.
Jordan cannot change the past, he has served and is moving on in the best way he can.
Of course the people who invested with him weren't greedy were they?
jjmdirector
Why is investing considered greedy and some of these people worked hard all their life for everything they had and they were not rich and he lies and says he paid his victims but he still has not
Greedy? Everyone is out here trying to make a living making wise investments. Or you could just live paycheck to paycheck till you kick the bucket that sounds like fun.
jjmdirector
I don't see how being an investor normally makes a person greedy when sometimes they have to wait years even decades for that money to grow because it is often slow growth but something reliable... and to me that makes a lot of sense to just invest the money and let it grow.
What shocks me is how many people don't feel this guy is a greedy scummy con artist who still has not paid back restitution to his victims but in the meantime after destroying people's lives he is living really well if you do your research it all can be found out here.
It isn't greedy it's being smart. People like him just work like dogs living paycheck to paycheck till they die and never make sound money decisions that give them the freedom to live life to the fullest.
People like Jordan Belfort never change or own up to it.
He's a genius in marketing--do you cunts REALLY believe he's owned up to it? If you look it up online he has not paid back shit--only $11 million out of a 100 million.
He's extremely manipulative to make sure he has some supporters out there still defend him--he's played around with words and has agreed to as many personal interviews as possible to say "Yeah I'm the bad guy but I'm so good at this, right?" and seem relatable to others. He's not relatable, he's manipulative, he will never change.
Oh, and I could care less whether you believe me or not and play my comment off as being "jealous." Just goes to show how deep under your skin this man's lies have crawled into.
Why dont you fight him
Bullshit or not, I LOVE the way he speaks!
I admire this guys selling skills, but don't get it twisted what he did to people was utterly disgusting point blank and I hope he is truly truly remorseful. I hope his victims were able to bounce back and recover from the atrocities Jordan committed against them.
He seems to be just as into himself as he was before
I think that Belfort is Taking Actions to Right his wrongs. What more can you expect him to do? Most Con Artists never admit their wrongs (proves he's not a narcissist) and none to my knowledge have tried to make amends. He was a drug user, surrounded by drug users---making a lot of money. At least he's trying to repay money and pay fines for past mistakes.
I like what he say about Remorse vs. Shame. You can tell he's given this some thought.
Hmmm....not sure what else the public can do. One thing i don't understand is how he only did 22mths?
is it only cos he got caught though?
jjsiegal1 It was a 4 year sentence but he snitched on everyone involved. It's like when a drug dealer gets caught with crack. 20 years can be shortened to 10 or less if you give names of all the dealers you have worked with. Funny justice system.
Piers Morgan is a very rich man. If he feels so bad about the victims, then maybe he should give them some money. Just an idea???
Well no, because it wasn't Piers who committed the crime.
Then he needs to stop judging Jordan. He's doing all he can to repay the people. Its not his fault he cant do it right away.
KaptinSir It's not just about the money. It's also about emotional damage those victims suffered. Jordan doesn't seem to acknowledge that.
How has he not? He has publicly admitted his regrets and his sorrows. What more can he do? Sell his blood?
***** And Jordan has admitted many times that he is sorry for it. What more can he do?
He really does owe these people who he stole from an apology. He's trying to do the right thing, but it starts with an apology. I'm sure those he stole from would give him hell for even apologizing, but at least it would be an effort. Stealing is wrong in all forms, but especially stealing money from hardworking people is just wrong.
You have to make amends for your actions.
Has Piers Morgan sought out the people he has harmed?
Piers... He might want to reign in some of his pious blurb for when his chickens come home to roost from his newspaper editing days...
jordan belfort is my hero.
Haha. Piers Morgan is criticising this guy about morals and ethics. The fucking irony!!!!
Why would he want to meet his victims? He would be putting himself in a dangerous situation that wouldn't help anyone. Paying the victims back would be the best thing and maybe something extra for the damage he has done.
Jordan is a sweetheart...
I love piers the only interviewer with morals
hahaha
Maybe because he didn't hack your phone
If you'd have been one of the richest people in the country and lived an absolutely amazing life, would you really care that people lost money? They're fine. They're alive. It's just money.
Anyone notice that Belfort is wearing an ear piece? Lawyer on the other end?
At least Belfort admits he was a thief and used people's trust to his advantage. Piers Morgan on the other hand...
MY only takeaway: I hate Piers Morgan.
I like how Piers Morgan was arguing when he literally agreed with Jordan
Me too.
I am not going to.
I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell Morgan
What a film wolf of Wall Street is, looking at Jordan in the interview you wouldn't think he done some of the things he done, but he destroyed a lot of people lives
In what he was doing and I think now he's in a better place he should consider meeting the victims and talk to them face to face
I've always loved America.. But I love America a lot more since they took Piers Morgan off our hands! Much love, Andy from Britain.
to be fair to the wolf, all his victims were too greedy in the first place, they let greed rule their head!
I believe he has remorse. But pierce is annoying as he'll
Jordan Belford should live his live in shame by human standarts. He is still so much in love with himself. It makes me sick!
piers Morgan is the only interviewer who stuck it on him who challenged him
pierce morgan. if i was being critical i would ask you what you think these people would rather have. an emotional apology from jordan or some of their money back?
Piers would LOVE to have Belfort's victim on the show with Jordan. It would be a regular Jerry Springer hr.
Shit I woulda done all the same shit if I had the opportunity
And see that's what people don't understand. I would have did it too. I'm in construction and I will fight my ass off for my company to make money and I don't even own it.
anyone who is saying this guy isn't cocky, and arrogant and narcissistic has really fallen for the tricks that sociopaths have. doesn't stop wolf of wall street being a terrific movie, but i still wouldn't trust this man with anything i own because he would take it from me shamelessly and guiltlessly. He has no remorse this is a lie.
He doesn't regret anything
Why does Pierce Morgan still have a job? He could be talking to a serial killer and I'd find more empathy for the killer than Morgan himself, just from having to listen to him talk.
Thanks for the straight line technique amongst others Jordan, but be honest you don't care at all about those people.
Morgan was tough.
Piers is such a sellout... The wolf has paid people back and served his time.
Piers Morgan should marry Katie Couric?
Why do people defend this guy
If he took my money I would not be happy they made a movie about it.
What ever you hater gonna say...his life is worth a movie
At last someone holds Jordan Belfort to account for his actions and goes 'Paxman' on him, instead of brown-nosing him and allowing his personal charm and charisma to deflect the real issue; HE STILL OWES $100M IN RESTITUTION!!!!
I don't believe he has remorse whatsoever. if you listen carefully when Piers asks him at the human level whether he cares for his wrongs aside from the financial payback he has committed to (that is just money he can easily make it) he sort of didn't addressed the question directly. Also, when he starts to repeat the last question on whether he would meet someone he scammed just shows he was trying to think what to answer and then finally said he would definitely do it which proves to me he was lying. If that was true he would have answered immediately. Nonetheless, I believe that as long as he can use his great skills ethically he is doing great.
wow the comments on here are quite a revelation.
Thumbs up if you realized the irony in the add before the video.
Can someone explain to me why does Jordan Belfort has an earpiece??? I am really wondering. Who is dictating in his ear???
great man
This man did his time. What's he gonna do? Go around and apologise to every person he duped? No! That shits not realistic! What he's doing now, THAT'S him giving back! Why do ppl have to continue to go after him is fuckin stupid!
You will believe in his words. You will see him from good side of his character- you know why? Because it's Jordan Belfort. He earned millions of dollars talking. Saying things. He is better than perfect in this art of acting.
Probably if he wouldn't be stupid and greedy to much, he still could be millionaire. But I'm not jugging, hell I would love to have just a small part of his talent in my head.
But he said 100k is not a life saving... lol im sure most americans cant even save half of that in the bank.
Was this on last night or will it be on tonight? Where is full interview
Piers Morgan should be slapped off of his high horse
Best line ever
Jordan answered Piers rude questions so well, 👏👍
I wanna be like jordan belfort
how is piers morgan allowed to do this job? he epitomises modern media who only ask negative questions to try and invoke an negative reactions. the guy was early 20's when he did what he did but he did his time, he is repaying the money and he should be recognised for that too. piers is no match for this guy and he embarrasses himself.
No soul, pushy person. Still don't trust him as far as I could throw him.
He is a brilliant sales man and is full of shit. He needs to pay those victims back. I see that he has taken his scan game to Australia now. He needs to actually take his talents like Frank Abignale did and use them for good not evil. Criminals can be brilliant too but should not be defended. The fact that he has continued to involve himself in scamming people is very disappointing.
1:44 "Action speaks louder than words" a funny sentence comming from someone that 7 years later still hasn't payed his victims 100 mln dollars. This man is pure liar.
Finally I can see a journalist telling this guy right in the eyes (frankly by asking a question) what he thinks about what this guy did. It's sure is still about money and paying it bak to the ones who lost it (I think I've heard that Belfort paid off about 10 or 20% of what he defraud), but we still live in a humanbeing world, whether somebody likes it or not). Also I want to underline - I'm not the one to judge the journalist or Belfort - still the truth stands somewhere around the middle.
Agree. Although, I see where people get the "Piers is a cunt" from. But this question was a hard, very fair question to ask, and it actually made Jordan think for a second.
I get the sense of speculation from critics of Jordan that compare him to an alcoholic: one will always be an alcoholic, but they can change certain ways about themselves so that they can avoid the consequences of their problem. I'm not sure if there's any truth to that, and it's not right to assume it either. I think you're right that the truth is somewhere in the middle, but only Jordan truly knows, and if he's being honest, then I can accept that he's learned and really changed how he thinks.
KaptinSir What you said made no sense (Piers paying victims). What Piers was extracting out of Jordan was pretty fair to ask. Does he empathy? To the victims, it certainly wasn't just about money. Being ripped off, betrayed, and deceived is the worst thing to feel from someone else - even Jordan admitted before, it was personal to some of his victims. Basically, the point was that Jordan didn't see the victims as people, and that they were worth less than dirt. Piers wanted to gather what Jordan has learned about empathy (if he has any at all).
It would be _really_ interesting to see a victim and Jordan to have a one on one. That would be something to see. If Jordan want's to really be a transparent businessman, he would be able to do that.
I would love to see a documentary on the victim's talking about what they lost and how he negatively impacted their lives and as of May of 2018 he still hasn't paid his victims but he lives very very well you better believe it and he lies and says he has paid his victims but as of 2 months ago the government is threatening to put his sorry ass back in jail.. he never should have been allowed out anyway.
You can say what ever you want about Jordan. But he is smart. He earned a lot of money. BIG money. I mean..come on! 25 million? I dont give a shit about your wallet
cant cure a sociopath and a narcissist. you notice that he says he hasnt met any of the people he stole from and that he as fixing the problem the best that HE can. ell its not about YOU Jordan, its about ho the others wantto be made hole and that might mean spitting in your face, so hy dont you find some courage and face these people like a man
I suspect were this guy to face some of the financial victims a bodyguard might be useful in case some blunt force trauma occurred. The debt to society may be paid in his head and the eyes of the law but paying people back with compound interest would be nice.
speaking skills can get you out of anything, apparently
I don't know who Jordans Target Market was, but they were Gamblers to fall for a pitch over the phone. Gambling is a sickness related to Greed. We all want something for nothing. Greed is a sickness within each of us and it has to be controlled.
Some company wanted to hire me to work overseas to pitch Options. There Target Market...."People who have gambling problems!" They know their target market, if proposition in the right manor, would Gamble their savings or whatever money they had, but they didn't care. There goal was to "get the money." UNBELIEVABLE that companies like Jordan's Still exist !
If he was the old Jordan he would of destroyed piers
WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND INVESTS HALF THEIR LIFE SAVINGS, THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED WITH ANY COMPANY THE STOCK MARKET IS ALWAYS UNPREDICTABLE
YESTERDAY YOU SAID TODAY AND TODAY YOU SAID TOMORROW.
WHEN YOU BECOME SO AFRAID TO INVEST INTO YOUR FUTURE, WEALTH BECOMES SO AFRAID OF REACHING YOU
MOST POOR PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO CLAIM TO BE TOO WISE TO INVEST INTO A PLATFORM THAT WORKS FOR OTHERS.FOREX IS ACTUALLY THE BEST THING TO THINK ABOUT
Forex/Bitcoin trading is more profitable and a big chance to make more money nowadays.
Yes sure, forex is a more profitable online busines.
I have been trading for over 7months now with no good returns rather get loss account blown.
You gotta see investors scared and loose funds due to ignorance.
I have been in such situation before and it wasn’t an easy one.
vc vê claramente q o cara não demonstra qualquer empatia por ninguém, sempre o mesmo semblante "acho terrível" mas vc vê que ele não liga, é da boca pra fora, um típico narcisista psicopata, como muitos que existem por ai. Certamente se não tivesse sido pego e ficado 4 anos na cadeia continuaria fazendo sem remorso oq fazia, porque, mesmo hoje, como se percebe (e como ele mesmo assume) não se envergonha. Achei o filme até bem feito mas relativizar oq e ele fez, achar "cool" ou romantizar o crime que foi cometido contra pessoas humildes (maior parte de suas vitimas foram pequenos investidores, professores aposentados, etc) é não saber separar ficção da realidade, o cara hoje vai a SP e dá palestras que lotam as salas, sobre "motivação", "sucesso"... sério que as pessoas esqueceram que esse cidadão é um criminoso? ou sabem o que ele é, mas não se importam? me preocupa essa sociedade em que vivemos.
The more I watch this, the more i feel frustrated with Piers. Yes Jordan is a conman and served jail time for it , but this interview style is nothing more than a witch hunt. We already know these victims got screwed over. Does a rapist get out of jail and then go looking for the victim to apologise ?
Jordan (with all his flaws) handled himself quite well.
No he wont!
I´m sorry but, am I seeing it wrongly or those people were wealthy and most of them greedy investors who were trying to increase their own wealth as quickly as possible? We are not talking about middle class families who went bankrupt! They knew that Wall Street is a nasty place full of wolves... I´m not saying that what Jordan did is acceptable, I´m just saying that no matter the reasons, he is doing the right thing and he doesn´t have to call everybody to apologise! Those guys, don´t want an apology, they want their money back... I´m wondering if Piers Morgan is one of them! What does he want!? An apology and a kiss...!?
Nelson Pinto ...my dear, I can't believe you fell for the lies ...there is actually a vid here on TH-cam If you say victim of Jordan Belfort speaks out.. you will hear an old man talking about how they got his $80,000 and in the end of the vid you will hear him say how it really created problems for him and he had to remortgage his house and pay the difference ..
....and believe it or not a lot of his victims were middle class people and even upper working-class class people who worked hard for everything they had..
.... and there is nothing wrong with playing the stock market ..
...I don't know why you're defending him ...why is it okay for him to rip off people many of whom were very hard-working.
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Why do you defend a criminal who lies and pretends he feels bad about it when he certainly doesn't and has not paid off his victims yet and yet you will find vids of how well he lives... he lives like a king and only 2 months ago the government threatened to put him back in jail if he doesn't pay his victims... so what does this tell you ?
Also how do you think you would feel if it was all of YOUR money that you had worked hard for that he took and kept.
...how would you feel if it was your parents or your grandparents ...what in the world is wrong with your thinking ..? Jordan Belfort lies and lies and lies...
I just can't understand why so many people eat that up and don't question anything he says... it's like they don't realize the guy is still a scammer.
DId he really crawl in the country club to his car in real life? lol
What happened to the people he worked w tho?
they all got in big trouble
he snitched on them
I really hate this Pierce Morgan. He always steps out of his duties as a journalist. He always puts his opinion in front of every interview. Tha is why I do not watch this program.