A little note at 4:04, while Iron Man's beam has the benefits such as coming out a frame earlier, keeping the opponent standing, it's not necessarily better than Doctor Doom's plasma beam assist. When Doctor Doom is called, he is called behind the player. This makes it extremely hard to punish him, giving him a lot of defensive capability. When Iron Man is called, he is called directly on top the player, leading to more potential happy birthdays or punishes from the opponent. Great video, your content is awesome.
It IS better. Actually comes out 1 frame slower but it active 5 frames longer than doom beam. The fact it comes out behind is a bonus but you should not be calling your assist with your opponent that close. Its honestly not common at all for the assist to stop happy birthdays, if you made a bad call more often than not doom is getting hit too
@@SkyHighClaw Ah, got my beams reversed with frames. It's still not necessarily better imo. I still think being called behind the player makes it more even than anything. In cases of a bad call and the opponent is doing like cr.L M, if Iron Man's on top of you he's gonna get hit too, but if Doom's behind the player he can interrupt because he's not hit yet. Of course it's hard to talk about Marvel in theory because there's a lot of situations, but I understand most people's argument when it comes to that. It also just depends if your character prefers having Unibeam over Plasma.
@@Zaimilk000 That's the thing, don't make a bad call. A bad call can cost you an entire match That's a fundamental thing to know. The fact it keeps you standing lets you setup just the silliest mixups with certain characters. With Magneto I can make you guess high low back or forward or grab. Even if you got hit by the 1st or 2nd layer The reason why I know is because I use doom beam, and use Repulsor blast so I dont get a chance to use unibeam. If Doom had repulsor blast Id use unibeam so fast it'd make your head spin
I've met DapVip in person, haven't seen him in a while since the pandemic but he TO'd some locals and he is super cool. When I first met him, I didn't realize who he was and that I'd seen fan compilations for him before. The shock on my face later
There is the really awesome exhibition/practice with Japanese players vs FChamp and friends and Abegen goes off in that too. Super hype dude, super awesome set.
One thing about the run at 6:35, he also does the M followup which grants armor and allows She-Hulk to tank the single hit Dante throws out before canceling into super. Good stuff!
just a note for 3:35 -- characters can't be grabbed while blocking. x-23's level 3 is just straight up an unblockable and not necessarily a grab. x-23's level 3 "hits" even when the opponent is blocking which is what dapvip takes advantage of with dante's assist. whether the opponent gets hit by the assist or blocks it x-23 can land her level 3. it's a great setup that's only set back by meter and assist timing on incoming and requires that dapvip (or anyone that plays this team) to have a solid neutral game with characters that are easily outpaced against top tier characters. man i've spent several hours playing/watching this game back then. fun times.
@@hugon6717 umvc3 with rollback would indeed pull it off tbh, also we can just make our own community patch afyer the rollback implementation of mods, so i really just want the rollback, as its always a nightmare to even release these games ip licensing
@@noobtuber10 umvc3 would garner some attention, but would easily die down again because it's past its prime. A new game that's better would indeed surpass umvc3. Isn't it the same with umvc3 licensing? A new game would make more money for whoever owns the marvel characters, and an old game doesn't justify the licensing fees. Simply put the game would not sell well regardless of what you think. It's an old game it's not worth it for them.
Honestly really appreciate it. I am so excited for your 100k milestone! You deserve it and have been an inspiration for so many content creators in this space
When I first played MvP3 I gravitated towards using Tron Bonne I think my other picks was Dead pool and Wolverine (may actually have been x-23 coincidentally) ? I can't remember. But I remember watching streams I always rooted for Abegen since he used Tron.
Dap Vip is my inspiration for x23 and I only got as good as am with her from watching his clips. He's amazing Abegan is also one of my favorites because his team is so creative, cool looking, and has ALL the synergy of a zero-may-cry. The combo optimization and one touch kills on every character is fantastic.
Love the video, can't wait to see many more from this channel, also Modok definitely in the top 7 imo... Keep up the great work and hope to see more of my low tier brothers being show 👍
Top 7? Zero, Morrigan, Phoenix, Magneto, Vergil, Doom, Nova- who you got M.O.D.O.K replacing? (sidenote not sure you'd remember me but I was a Cap player online from UK and we played a bit when you were still an Iron Man main before you started going HAM on WNF)
He’s one of the best players in marvel of all time along with all the tech and tricks he came up with a team to compete with top tier players not only teams DAP VIP is also quit amazing himself with his team also
Haven't played fighting games seriously since DOA2(Dreamcast version was superior to PS2) but love occasionally finding channels about games I've never really played and seeing their communities history
I love X-23 as a character, so I always loved watching Dapvip play her at such a high level. So enjoyable and so hype ! Especially in brackets full of Zero's and Morrigan's that are so f#cking lame to watch !
I can look into making a quick one. It's actually not too bad though! If you download it and put it in your game folder it should load up and you can press F1. Then press every checkmark that pops up and you can use the keybinds (defaults to numpad I believe) to move the camera
So I'm one of the only point Iron Man players that I know of and I've actually sent Abegan to losers in a Major. Dude is relentless. We played a money match later and he got me 5-4 but he complimented my Iron Man, which was nice because he had played with Condor. This was roughly around his meteoric rise in the scene. Great breakdown! th-cam.com/video/DUmtBPXxGUU/w-d-xo.html
Not all that relevant to this video specifically, but it did make me curious: Why does Thor have the most health in the game? I would’ve expected at least the massive characters like Sentinel or Dormammu to have more HP?
M.O.D.O.K is high tier; Rocket Raccoon is mid. Thor's damage is average, but can loop his hypers with meter. His Mighty Smash crossover counter is top tier.
kinda sad that you didn't mention that ABEGEN's whole play style, regardless of which game he plays, is to force people into unavoidable situations. For example, if you jump out of thor's command grab hyper, he can just DHC into She-Hulk to make sure you get command grabbed.
having the background image subtly having Vergil as low tier is some EFFECTIVE subliminal clickbaiting, holy shit. I bet you got a rise out of a bunch of bozos with that.
made low tier look top tier, *Inserts a clip of modok* Let's see where modok is on the tier list shall we? oh look he's considered a top tier character
This game is just way too over the top. So much going on at one time it just takes away from what could be a cool game. The development team tried way too hard and just made something that looks like shit.
Modok & Rocket Raccoon are nowhere near low tier but otherwise good video. DapVip is one of my favorite. This video: "BlackEye UMVC3 #24 vs udaterasu" shows a team of Ryu, Ironman & Thor and #24 uses them really good. He is also another good Japanese player.
@@fortidogi8620 No, they wasn't. Rocket was considered top tier when AgeoJoe use him and Modok when ppl realize he can escape Morrigan fireball spam easily.
@@afropowa1598 Considered by who? I dont think anyone was like, rushing home to practice Spike Trap Log Trap combos or talking like the character actually represented a meta counter to Morridoom. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
@@fortidogi8620 By the goddamn community. Why would you even ask that dumb ass question "by who?!" Who else?! Yes they was! Since you can't even remember, your 1st comment was pointless. I ACTUALLY REMEMBER!
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That anti air read on a invisible character was CRAZY
reading the unreadable
I mean, he did a ground command throw and it didn’t work so where else would x-23 be? 😂 Not thaaaat crazy (but still hype)
@@DoctorDarlingTTV bro that shit was crazy don't downplay it
I was on public transportation watching that. I lost my shit so hard in front of people. I don't even mind, it was that sick!
Yeah it seriously isn't given the credit it deserves. Man basically risked the round on a hunch, and got it.
A little note at 4:04, while Iron Man's beam has the benefits such as coming out a frame earlier, keeping the opponent standing, it's not necessarily better than Doctor Doom's plasma beam assist. When Doctor Doom is called, he is called behind the player. This makes it extremely hard to punish him, giving him a lot of defensive capability. When Iron Man is called, he is called directly on top the player, leading to more potential happy birthdays or punishes from the opponent. Great video, your content is awesome.
It IS better. Actually comes out 1 frame slower but it active 5 frames longer than doom beam. The fact it comes out behind is a bonus but you should not be calling your assist with your opponent that close. Its honestly not common at all for the assist to stop happy birthdays, if you made a bad call more often than not doom is getting hit too
@@SkyHighClaw Ah, got my beams reversed with frames. It's still not necessarily better imo. I still think being called behind the player makes it more even than anything. In cases of a bad call and the opponent is doing like cr.L M, if Iron Man's on top of you he's gonna get hit too, but if Doom's behind the player he can interrupt because he's not hit yet. Of course it's hard to talk about Marvel in theory because there's a lot of situations, but I understand most people's argument when it comes to that. It also just depends if your character prefers having Unibeam over Plasma.
@@Zaimilk000 That's the thing, don't make a bad call. A bad call can cost you an entire match That's a fundamental thing to know.
The fact it keeps you standing lets you setup just the silliest mixups with certain characters. With Magneto I can make you guess high low back or forward or grab. Even if you got hit by the 1st or 2nd layer
The reason why I know is because I use doom beam, and use Repulsor blast so I dont get a chance to use unibeam. If Doom had repulsor blast Id use unibeam so fast it'd make your head spin
I've met DapVip in person, haven't seen him in a while since the pandemic but he TO'd some locals and he is super cool. When I first met him, I didn't realize who he was and that I'd seen fan compilations for him before. The shock on my face later
What is TO'd
@@heinrichmenzel7163 usually tournament organizer, like in charge of brackets, and announcing matches, reining in all the contestants and stuff.
There is the really awesome exhibition/practice with Japanese players vs FChamp and friends and Abegen goes off in that too.
Super hype dude, super awesome set.
One thing about the run at 6:35, he also does the M followup which grants armor and allows She-Hulk to tank the single hit Dante throws out before canceling into super. Good stuff!
I love your in game camera work and breakdowns!
This is the content I didn’t know I needed I hope you many successes in your future man
True, so good to relive all those good moments !
just a note for 3:35 -- characters can't be grabbed while blocking. x-23's level 3 is just straight up an unblockable and not necessarily a grab. x-23's level 3 "hits" even when the opponent is blocking which is what dapvip takes advantage of with dante's assist. whether the opponent gets hit by the assist or blocks it x-23 can land her level 3.
it's a great setup that's only set back by meter and assist timing on incoming and requires that dapvip (or anyone that plays this team) to have a solid neutral game with characters that are easily outpaced against top tier characters.
man i've spent several hours playing/watching this game back then. fun times.
Kusoru! You have to cover him!
Everytime I watch an UMVC3 video I always get reminded of MVCI.... sad how that game just fell short and also didnt get the attention it deserved.
We need another marvel vs Capcom.
Nah just rollback in umvc3
Nah, a new game with rollback would revive the mvc scene and bring back even more players.
umvc3 with rollback is not pulling that off.
@@hugon6717 umvc3 with rollback would indeed pull it off tbh, also we can just make our own community patch afyer the rollback implementation of mods, so i really just want the rollback, as its always a nightmare to even release these games ip licensing
@@noobtuber10 umvc3 would garner some attention, but would easily die down again because it's past its prime.
A new game that's better would indeed surpass umvc3.
Isn't it the same with umvc3 licensing?
A new game would make more money for whoever owns the marvel characters, and an old game doesn't justify the licensing fees.
Simply put the game would not sell well regardless of what you think. It's an old game it's not worth it for them.
@@hugon6717 mvci
I’m glad the algorithm recommended this video to me
This channel is gonna blow up
Honestly really appreciate it. I am so excited for your 100k milestone! You deserve it and have been an inspiration for so many content creators in this space
They really deserve a video, but you forgot about IheartJustice and IronGod, 2 botton tier monsters
Liked and commented for algorithm engagement. Keep making dope vids!
crazy cause when i was first learning the game i used x23 dante and nova
the way you have the gameplay displayed really highlights how wonderful this game really is
When I first played MvP3 I gravitated towards using Tron Bonne I think my other picks was Dead pool and Wolverine (may actually have been x-23 coincidentally) ? I can't remember. But I remember watching streams I always rooted for Abegen since he used Tron.
Exceptional analysis and breakdown. Very entertaining. Excellent work my man.
Man I would love to see an analysis of Chris G Vs. Senior Taxi
Dap Vip is my inspiration for x23 and I only got as good as am with her from watching his clips. He's amazing
Abegan is also one of my favorites because his team is so creative, cool looking, and has ALL the synergy of a zero-may-cry. The combo optimization and one touch kills on every character is fantastic.
Your videos are awesome man, keep it up
We need to see more weeberman iron fist. Especially his match with streamburger
Love the video, can't wait to see many more from this channel, also Modok definitely in the top 7 imo... Keep up the great work and hope to see more of my low tier brothers being show 👍
Hehehehe Modok is easily top 15, but so under represented I call him low tier this video. You are definitely right though LOL
Top 7? Zero, Morrigan, Phoenix, Magneto, Vergil, Doom, Nova- who you got M.O.D.O.K replacing?
(sidenote not sure you'd remember me but I was a Cap player online from UK and we played a bit when you were still an Iron Man main before you started going HAM on WNF)
@@Yawdan doom easily
the alternate camera angles are so sweet
I love these low tier teams. It would be a dream come true to see them take EVO
Wow I've never seen someone survive a dirt nap setup before. I didn't even know it was possible.
He’s one of the best players in marvel of all time along with all the tech and tricks he came up with a team to compete with top tier players not only teams DAP VIP is also quit amazing himself with his team also
I desperately need a track list of this video because that had me hooked
6:55 close line is a wall bounce wher airborne, but it's a crumple on the ground.
I have come to really like this chanel, I wasn’t a part of the UMVC3 scene, and I love watching the history and lore of it.
MODOK is top tier. Arguably top 10 easily top 15
Shhhh don't give away the secrets ;)
Abegoat
That she-hulk read was absolutely nuts!!
Low tier marvel is legit the best fighting game to watch
You know where this series of marvel moments is leading to. We all know. There is only one final boss of marvel.
Bro how do you only have 2k??? Great video man keep up the good work
I'd rather watch them over the typical Morridoom vs Zero May Cry. Low tiers FTW!
Great video keep up the good work!
Really loved this video. I only sort of understand the bare basics of Marvel, so this was a really helpful and insightful level of detail. Thanks!
Lobster I’ve watched your channel on literally one day keep up the work brother loved all the content!
I LITERALLY THOUGHT TO MYSELF “you wanna learn how to do a fuckin infinite” and then the clip was played
Love these vids
Haven't played fighting games seriously since DOA2(Dreamcast version was superior to PS2) but love occasionally finding channels about games I've never really played and seeing their communities history
great vid 👍
Dapvip whole team is centered around the iron man infinite and x23 lvl3. Dante is just there for assist
You're awesome, bro. Thank you for your contributions to the community.
God I wish people still played this game. It was so good
I love X-23 as a character, so I always loved watching Dapvip play her at such a high level. So enjoyable and so hype !
Especially in brackets full of Zero's and Morrigan's that are so f#cking lame to watch !
Yet another awesome gem. Truly appreciate the love for my MODOK Rocket
The game is way past its prime so I wonder how these players would’ve performed way back when Wong, Chris G, F Champ and KBR were at tip top shape
is there a tutorial on how to use the free roam camera with the hook mod? I've been wanting to use it more but I don't know how to
Yeah it looks cool
I can look into making a quick one. It's actually not too bad though!
If you download it and put it in your game folder it should load up and you can press F1.
Then press every checkmark that pops up and you can use the keybinds (defaults to numpad I believe) to move the camera
@@PapaLobster yes! Tutorial for this would be good!
I'd like to see others getting some love like Sacktap, I Heart Justice, Iron God, etc...
So I'm one of the only point Iron Man players that I know of and I've actually sent Abegan to losers in a Major. Dude is relentless. We played a money match later and he got me 5-4 but he complimented my Iron Man, which was nice because he had played with Condor. This was roughly around his meteoric rise in the scene.
Great breakdown!
th-cam.com/video/DUmtBPXxGUU/w-d-xo.html
good video
Great video!
Abegen is my favorite Marvel player. I love his team
The former general of sova love this content
I feel like I never see a Frank west pop off ever
Excellent vid
The more unconventional the team, the scarier the player is.
Please scrubecks in ceo was amazing defeating flocker Justin and apologyman.
another banger!
I have no idea what the fuck is going on but this is sick
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Amazing!
Good use of the Josh360 clip
In vanilla marvel, abegen’s team was top tier except for thor
Tron Bonne for the win!
Also modok is high/top hes just unpicked for being a giant floating head
What about when abagen took down phoenix that was epic
When I get this, I'll use Phoenix Wright.
How about the Marvel JP player that mains rocket racoon? He made a killer appearance.
Kurosu Ageojoe! He's actually coming up soon!
Damn he didn’t even mention LLND………
Sup bro, do you think there would be another mvc game??
Iheartjustice should've been mentioned!
I LOVE IHEARTJUSTICE! I'll look into his sets to find a good one to do a video on
🎃🎃🎃🎃
Not all that relevant to this video specifically, but it did make me curious: Why does Thor have the most health in the game? I would’ve expected at least the massive characters like Sentinel or Dormammu to have more HP?
what's the music at the beginning?
M.O.D.O.K is high tier; Rocket Raccoon is mid. Thor's damage is average, but can loop his hypers with meter. His Mighty Smash crossover counter is top tier.
kinda sad that you didn't mention that ABEGEN's whole play style, regardless of which game he plays, is to force people into unavoidable situations. For example, if you jump out of thor's command grab hyper, he can just DHC into She-Hulk to make sure you get command grabbed.
A lowteir deity perhaps even a low teir god
having the background image subtly having Vergil as low tier is some EFFECTIVE subliminal clickbaiting, holy shit. I bet you got a rise out of a bunch of bozos with that.
made low tier look top tier, *Inserts a clip of modok*
Let's see where modok is on the tier list shall we? oh look he's considered a top tier character
low tier hero? zenpool for sure lol
Oh man, please don’t imply rocket or Modok are anywhere below high tier. P
LowTierGod
The funny thing is, ltg always plays toptiers or mid, never a low
@@ShinStriderHiryu IKR
Mvc2 > Mvc3
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Oh yeah lets pretend mvc2 with their recicled 100 char roster, only 6 are tourny viable and u will never see hype moments like that
Your content is awesome, but you never really sound enthused about what you're talking about.
I guess they’re both Lowtiergods.
She hulk is garbage tier L
This game is just way too over the top. So much going on at one time it just takes away from what could be a cool game. The development team tried way too hard and just made something that looks like shit.
lol, you get used to it scrub
You mean marvel is shit now with gender politics
So much is going on at one time🤓
Modok & Rocket Raccoon are nowhere near low tier but otherwise good video. DapVip is one of my favorite. This video: "BlackEye UMVC3 #24 vs udaterasu" shows a team of Ryu, Ironman & Thor and #24 uses them really good. He is also another good Japanese player.
For most of the games lifetime they were considered low tiers; it took a while for them to see a lot of play.
@@fortidogi8620 No, they wasn't. Rocket was considered top tier when AgeoJoe use him and Modok when ppl realize he can escape Morrigan fireball spam easily.
@@afropowa1598 Considered by who? I dont think anyone was like, rushing home to practice Spike Trap Log Trap combos or talking like the character actually represented a meta counter to Morridoom. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
@@fortidogi8620 By the goddamn community. Why would you even ask that dumb ass question "by who?!" Who else?! Yes they was! Since you can't even remember, your 1st comment was pointless. I ACTUALLY REMEMBER!
@@afropowa1598 okay okay i get it, you win, damn
Tron Bonne for the win!