I'm British. I just don't understand the American system. I thought the point of higher education was to go to university/college and specialise in a specific subject and get a degree. How can you specialise in something if you have to do English, history, maths, the history of art?!
Its specialization in your last 2 years. Because US high schools have so many varieties, each University has to make sure each student has the ability and knowledge to specify, as some kids will and some wont upon entrance.
Not everyone knows what they want to do when entering university. It's nice to have the opportunity to learn about numerous things before having to commit. Thats the reasoning behind elective, plus they're a way to expand your mind passed just the field you want to go into. Taking art at a Biomedical Sciences major was really relaxing and a good way to balance with my natural science courses.
Joshua Mitchell me too, where I'm fron you have 8 years of middle and highschool where you're forved to take ~ 14-19 subjebts (depending on the school's curriculum) and don't get to chose anything apart from the 3rd or 4th language you'll learn in year 5(of the 8), so by the end of highschool, you have the best general knowledge you could possibly have, uni is for specification, why continue general knowledge, you gotta specify at some point
the american education system is a year behind us so their first year of uni is like our last year of a level. Kids in america start school at age 6/7 where as here we start at 5/6. My friend has a conditional scholarship to UCLA and only has to get ABB to miss the first year of american uni
It depends how many topics you have to take. I think the US system is better because you can tailor your degree to suit your tastes, rather than finding out that you hate it and having to drop out for a year in order to start again at square one (I have multiple friends who ended up doing this). Furthermore it encourages broader education and means that humanities majors can at least dip into college level science and vice versa. Much better overall (if you exclude the price and the clearly extortionate textbook system).
the thing is though, that most american universities are behind british univerities which is why in the first year american students learn a mixture of things because english students learnt it the year before. My friend has a conditional scholarship to ucla and he only has to achieve ABB to miss the first year of university in america
Hearing all this detailed shit about college and university, as a junior in highschool, makes me want to run away to the woods and become a forest person.
+αναℓση It is intimidating but don't worry, people generally want to help you (atleast in the UK) and it is extremely overrated for the money you pay in the UK, all you pay for it guidance and the degree certificate, that's it pretty much.
Go into uni in Ireland its really cheap and fun. Theres sports teams and options some of the tops universities in ireland are University College Dublin, National University of Ireland Galway , University College Cork , University of Limerick , Maynooth University and Dublin City University
In Denmark university is free. From you are 18 you get paid by the governtment to go to school (High school and university). It's not very much in high school, but in university it's 900 dollars each month. We don't have dorms so you have to rent a place yourself.
It's free in Scotland too and if you stay on in school for 5th and 6th year (being 16-18) and your parents don't make a certain amount of money then you get paid every week and same for college...not sure about uni though
Isla Lawson yes they did, scottish mp’s were under the Labour whip back then, and so they voted with Labour to introduce them in England but not in scotland
I'm absolutely blown away by how much you guys have to pay! I go to a Finnish uni, we don't have any fees and mostly can get the books from our library (which also means it's always a bit of a hunt to get them on time..). There is a mandatory fee for the students union (100€/year) and small fees for subject associations (10-50€/year). And we don't have dorms so have to rent, but the city has cheaper housing for students. And EVERY student gets financial support from the state. I get about 200€/month, still living at home. If you're renting and don't earn much, the amount is about double. To get this money you have to get enough study points per year, but that's not too much really. I feel incredibly lucky, writing this all out... Okay so basically guys, come to study in Finland 😅
Wow!! That's amazing. I wish the US would value education like that. It's so depressing to leave school with tens of thousands of dollars in debt. People who go on to study to be a doctor, for example, have more years of schooling even and can end up with hundreds of thousands in debt. Such a bad influence on the nation's economy.
It's so frustrating the amount you have to pay to go to college in the US. I go to a public/state university so I have what is considered a LOW total cost of $20,000 a year. Most private universities (like the Ivy Leagues) cost upwards of $60,000 a year.
You guys are assuming that someone with a PhD is a good teacher. Teaching is a skill that is entirely different. I have multiple degrees(5) and some of the best instruction came from people with Masters Degrees. Some of my absolute worst classes were from idiots with a Doctorate. They were very knowledgeable in their field but had no clue how to disseminate the information and make it interesting. I had a calculus professor that was a genius and could do any math problem or scenario, however he could not teach what he knew to the class. We all just looked at each other and said we are screwed. He should have never been allowed to interact with students.
Tuition fees at all British universities used to be paid (since WWII) by the students' local authorities as long as they qualified for a grant (for housing and expenses): which depended on their parents' income the previous year. Fees were abolished in 1976, but reintroduced in 1998 at £1000/yr by Tony Blair, supposedly a Labour prime minister, for England and Wales. The Scottish government introduced them for English students, since Scots have to pay if they study in England. Grants were replaced by student loans. The amount universities are allowed to charge has gone up: all of them ask for the maximum permitted. Overseas students pay very much more. Many courses are only commercially viable if there are enough overseas students.
Just to clarify the part about Masters degrees being 6 years in the US - the Masters program itself is only 2 years, the 6 years includes getting your 4 year bachelors degree first, which you have to have in order to get the Masters. I hope that makes sense to whoever is reading this!
+bellapalmera that's good to know, I was pretty shocked at the MA programme being 6 whole years xD Here (Germany) it's roughly the same, 3 years BA, 2 years MA.
what would full time mean in that case? because German MA degrees that last 2 years are also mean to be full-time, just like a BA taking 3 years is a full-time course of studies.
+keeponrockin Full time BA in the US with no prior units carrying over from highschool is typically 4 years. a masters can be anywhere from one year to anywhere really. there's two types of masters: Taught and Research. Taught is the typical classroom and exam format, which means it has a scheduled beginning an end like regular school. Research is done when you finish the topic you are researching which then typically requires a thesis. The thesis is a rather large paper and can be a pretty hefty project. Even after you've done the research, typically you still must have the paper topic approved by a scholastic board of professors at W/e university your studying at. If they don't approve, you'll have to step back and to a certain extent start over. Depending on how bold you are in your choice of research, it can can take years in itself. Aldo when I say paper, I really mean a book. some thesis can be in the 100s of pages
King George That's interesting. I Germany, I guess all Masters degrees are taught, but you won't get around doing your own research. I have to take exams and also write research papers, just like I had to for my BA. Lectures usually end with a written exam, while seminars usually require you two write 15 - 20 pages. My final BA thesis only had to be 30 pages/75.000 letters, my MA thesis is required to be 80 pages long.
This is more to do with English Universities. In Scotland our degrees are 4-5 years long depending on the degree, and they are completely funded. There are also several bursaries available so if you're paying rent with your student loan you can still afford to live comfortably. Most people also choose three subjects in first year (including their main degree), continue two of them in second year and then focus on their main degree or a joint degree in their honours years. Also, the ancient universities tend to be more spread out around their cities than campus based; for example, Edinburgh University owns over 700 buildings around the city.
If you’re not from Scotland and you go there to study, the fees you pay are the ones you would pay at home. In Ireland it’s technically free because there isn’t tuition but here is a €3000 registration fee but in Scotland that isn’t counted so it’s free for Irish people in Scotland.
Sky Lark it annoys me Scotland is completely different and much better and then that go call it the uk and Britain yeah we are part of it to I wish we weren’t tho I fucking hate England
US universities are much more easy than UK unis. I had a Geography teacher for A level and he told us a story how he went for a year to study in the US for his degree and he was allowed to give lectures because the level of geography that he had learnt at age 17/18 for A levels was higher than the level for the US degree. Apparently the US students were doing multiple choice questions as well and the teachers were amazed that he could write essays.
Yea for real. Unless it was like a 100 or non major class (which would be mostly freshmen and jrs/srs looking for an easy A to fill credits) And unless he was a TA, masters student, no way was he lecturing doesn't work like that
Idk what university he went to, but that is far from the norm. As a 1st year college student I have already had to write multiple essays and the only time a course uses multiple choice is when it is a lecture with 600+ students, even then there is often an essay portion of the test.
Just Subscribed! You're living my dream as an American in London. Went there couple of years ago and it has stayed with me since! Loved listening to you both talk! Very interesting
Love the British vs American videos , but some of them are more English vs American . E.g In Scotland we don't pay to go to University (: Include us Scottish, Welsh and Irish ! 💙🇬🇧
In Germany you barely have to pay tuition fees (like 2.000 euros a year which is fine (but it depends on the thing you study)) and the uni system is like the English one; overall I think our universities are quite good, except for the difference that we don't have campuses here. I'd imagine that to be so cool sigh
Evan Edinger exactly lol but then it's like "do i stay in germany without campuses and also no fees or do i go to england where i can live on a campus and pay a shit ton of money" well i'm sorry england
In Scotland, we pay taxes so that every child can go to uni, not how rich your parents are. Most universities in Scotland, you have your degree subject and you do a bunch of other topics with it and we don't pay our loans back until we earn a certain amount. They way students are treated in the rest of the U.K. is awful!
+Kirsty Campbell Thank you for saying how Scotland's different, literally feel like I have to comment every time with these UK vs USA videos. When it comes to education the UK can't be represented as one :P
So usa high schools are so crappy that you have to spend time at university to learn the stuff students from other countries learned when they were actually IN highschool? That must be so annoying...
LenaWolschaap no no we learned that stuff in high school too... they make us re learn it because apparently that makes us more "well rounded". Its bullshit.
Evan just touches on it! The system is actually broken. For example, an american student can do well in high school and even take advanced courses called AP courses (along with the AP exams) that are suppose to actually clear the student from having to take the course at university, only to find out that the number of universities that actually allow these AP courses are quite small. There are so many ways that american universities force students to take extra courses it is ridiculous. It is always about them making more money.
In my school you could go to a community college for free during your last two years of high school so about half my class finished high school with all their generals done which transferred to almost any college in my state
owch, I did two years of my degree at a £6000 a year college/uni which was community college equivalent and I wouldn't call it one of 'the bad ones' at all and I very much wanted to go there. Not about the status of where you go, just what you make of it!
WAIT WAIT WAIT - the book situation isn't the same for all UK universities. It is in fact a new thing now (starting this year) in some universities to have your core books for free but for many it isn't. Although, our books are rarely that expensive (referring to the physics book).
+llinossmiles The difference is, in the UK the lecturer will never say "turn to page 241 in your textbook". They're expected to provide all of the information in their lectures and write assignment questions themselves. So its often useful to own textbooks to help you, but you don't *need* to have them really. And usually the university library will have copies of all the main books so you can just borrow them if you want them to help with an assignment or something. From what Evan said, I get the impression that in the US you literally need the textbook because the lecturer will refer to it directly and if you don't have it you won't know whats going on.
+Emerald Ibis Nah, half the time you never even need the book on they syllabus they tell you to get the first two weeks of class in the US. Unless you are in a class where you have to bring to book to class and that part of your grade, you can just borrow them for free from the library. I only purchased and rented a handful of books my entire undergrad life. I used the library and its scanner/photocopier.
+Emerald Ibis well it depends on your course and uni still. Eg, I'm doing English lit at a small uni that has a tiny library. We did HAVE to buy £100 worth of textbooks in first year, that we read in class, or we had to have read for the next week because discussions. And yes you can borrow from the library, but with over 300 students doing eng lit, with about 10 copies in the library there's not much you can do but buy them. In addition, we always have 'set texts' that we have to read that aren't at all provided and aren't available in the library. In my 3 modules this semester I've had to buy 10 books on Amazon amounting to about £120 doing it the cheapest way. Without the books I wouldn't be able to do any of the assignments or go to any lectures because you are expected to discuss the texts in length during the lecture/seminar.
The way you guys talk about this and the background music is so relaxing but then I realize I have to start applying to colleges **starts hyperventilating**
+chocolatecoatedllama no they are nice, other than being in serious debt for a crazy amount of your life, it is an amazing opportunity and you can really branch out and learn so many different things while still focusing on you major and minors etc.
In Sweden we get paid to go to school actually. Like the mandatory nine years and gymnasium you get a certain amount every month and then in Uni you can loan money.
+Steampunk Llama I've literally just got my university application in (I'm British and am applying to British unis). The application process is stressful (although it sounds much better than the American one), so good luck! What subject do you want to do?
A plus side for me going to a community college was that the instructors were generally good about making the books/materials affordable. The campus library also carried at least one copy of the textbooks being used that you could check out for two hour blocks of time (you couldn't remove them from the library though). I always appreciated these efforts to make things affordable for the students. Affordability is why one would choose a community college in the first place after all.
This was fascinating, intriguing and occasionally appalling. The money you guys have to spend!!! Also SO glad I did an art course. I did three essays in the entire of my BA. That said, I have basically zero job prospects relating to my course lmFAO.
His comments about uni in America is very New Jersey and his school specific. For each state regulations and payments for public colleges will be different and within the circle of public colleges within that state, payments and regulations will be different. Nothing is completely standardized anywhere. And schools in different regions of the country will be very different from other regions. It will also highly depend on the major/course you've decided to do. I never had to pay for a $300 book in my whole college career and I wouldn't ever say that the books I had to get for my courses in total ever amounted to $300 per semester. It also helps to know where to get your books from. There are many online websites that look for the cheapest options across all the major academic book websites. My tuition a year was about $7k - 8k unless I had to pay for rooming on campus and I didn't go to a bad college at all. Schools in the Northeast are notoriously more expensive than most of the country, especially with most of the Ivys being up there. So a lot of people go down south for college because even with out of state tuition it's less expensive and a better education than schools up north (at least on the east coast). I find throughout this UK vs US series it's all been only his experience (which is of course what he has to draw from), but you have to take that into account cause the US is huge and for the most part each state is going to be very different for a lot of things and depending on your own financial situation, you're going to view the colleges in very different ways. And that's not even getting into private schools that make their own rules entirely.
At my university in the UK we have a 24/7 library in term time, pretty much every single book we need is there and so we don't need to buy books. Most research papers are free. There are different types of accommodation, most being flats with 20 people in them over three floors. If we decide to do a second degree we do have to pay for that one. I'm also doing dual honours, so kind of like two degrees as I'm doing two subjects. Hence I'm doing two dissertations, of 5000-10,000 words each!
woow in italy it's much harder!! italian uni students do an average of 10 or 12 exams a year, usually during two specific times of the year like during january/february and june/july. classes start usually at semptember and you go to class until you take the exams wich are both written and oral tests and then you start other classes and do other exams and so on.. people never get grades on something they did at home
i always forget university is that expensive for the rest of the UK. the welsh government capped it at £3000 and i don't understand why england didn't just do that too?? fuckin clegg. but like whuuuuuut how does anyone in america even afford to exist and learn ANYTHING
+OhItsJustKim It was £3300 until 2012 or so wasn't it? I absolutely hate the government for the amount we have to pay in England. I sort of want devolved powers in England too so they only control things that are essential for the whole country but we'd still end up with Tories in charge so it wouldn't help much.
+OhItsJustKim In the US we can get loans, grants, and/or scholarships. Evan said his community college was free because of scholarships, without those it would have cost him at least $2000 a semester. My first year of community college I had to pay some out of pocket, but grants covered most of it. My second year was free because I got a tuition waiver because my mom got a job at my school, so I only had to pay for books which was covered by my grant. Paying for it is possible, but it can be kinda difficult.
+Emma SAME! urgh god my sister was born in scotland (happpy holiday accident) and she'll get her uni fees for free, it's ridiculous. It shouldn't be so expensive in Britain, it would be helpful if the people in our government actually understood what money means to ordinary people...
In the video 2:53 to 2:56 Lucy: (questioning)"Who pays for that?" Evan: (screaming) ME!!!!! Lucy: "Where from?" and "No one has that money" Evan: (screaming) "I DON'T KNOW!!!!"
Watching videos about higher education in other countries always make me appreciate the Danish system. Both the fact that education is free, that we get S.U and that we, as in the UK, do one specific subject while at university. Also, friday bars ❤️
Joe M If we don't include private universities there's a lot. Public education is free, our loans go to housing, food, books and other things we need, thus making our debt remarkably less then yours. Very few people live in dorms, there are more shared flats or tiny student homes. We have no sororities but the student union organise loads of different stuff. This is poorly explained, but if there's anything else, please ask :)
I think it's an American thing to share a room as I am in student halls at the moment. I have my own room but I share a hall between about 10. I see about that student loan part, that would be good. When people argue that the tuition fee's are good in England they always say 'Oh well if we stop paying £9000 a year then the university won't be as good' and I just say '....bollocks mate, look at other countries'.
Not Legato Our dissertation including the research took the whole final year. We had other modules to do as well. But a month before the deadline we had to have a rough dissertation to get advice on it from our lecturer. So doing it the night before wasn't optional! And 10-12,000 words in one night? No thanks!
Hi! I stumbled on your channel while searching for a cool video about the differences between studying in the US and England that I could show my English language students in Indonesia. Cut to three hours later -- it was 2 am and I had binge watched everything from cereal to Cockney accents. What a great vlog you've got going -- thanks and please keep them coming!
Unless u get a pell grant and then the government pays for the college or scholarships or u work for the college in exchange for it paying the tuition.
Regarding US college costs: I was going to go to Berklee College of Music as a music therapy major, and the tuition there is $65k a year and rising. Due to medical setbacks, though, I've had to stay home and take online courses through a local community college working towards a 'communication studies' major, and I think my first semester's tuition was maybe $3k-$5k? Bearing in mind that Berklee is one of the best music schools in the country (Think Julliard level greatness or better) and does 4-year bachelor's degrees AND graduate school, and my community college only does 2-year associate's degree programs and I'm taking my classes online to cut down costs further, that's still quite the price difference.
Yeahhhhh British schools don't teach us grammatical terms, and it's always proper awkward when foreign people know them and you don't. I mean, we know the grammar rules, we just don't know the names of them.
They do teach them now like I'm 22 and my younger brother is 17 and he knows all of these terms that I dont know the name of and I didn an English degree
They don’t teach them in Ireland either. In 1st year (7th grade/year 8) you stop learning grammar and spelling entirely and start learning how to write essays and analyse texts.
Traditional grammar used to be taught, but the teaching profession had a change of heart in the 1970's and all of that was junked, at least in state schools. Private schools carried on because the parents wanted it.
Wow as an American that shocks me. We always assume the U.K people are probably experts at that type of thing.. We have to learn this stuff every year from about 1st grade (age 6) and we have to diagram the sentences.
This is one of the only insightful videos about the US university lifestyle.Thank you for making it. Its really helped with my decision to come and study in the US
I always forget that uni is super expensive for the rest of the UK! I'm Scottish and our tuition fees are paid for us which is so so lucky, I don't even understand how people manage to pay so much per year?!
+charis sandison Rich families But most people (at least in America) use student loans. Which is not always great. My ex-step father went to college in America and now (or at least was last I heard) works at Microsoft.....but he's paying student loans for the next 30 years. 30 years! that's the same as a house loan.
This is so helpful for me because I'm going to be an exchange student in England and I'm from Canada (so it's like an in between of Canada and America)
also, i love love love the uk vs american series BUT Scotland is often thrown in with the uk facts like "£9000 a year" one when in fact university in scotland is free! gotta be aware of scotland's devolved powers as there is such a difference between education here compared to england
I actually really appreciate this video as a US college student who is moving to the UK soon, and thus will be continuing the rest of my university education there.
This is so interesting. I am a university student in Sweden (which is also where I am from) and I know that we in many ways are super lucky, but I guess I needed a reminder. - We don't pay anything to apply - We generally don't have to write an application but apply on our acaemic scores only (depends a bit on what you're applying for though) - Tuition is free - Books are not free and can sometimes be super expensive, but at least at my school (medical school) a second hand book is almost always fine - All students can apply for financial aid, and a small part of it is just state funded so our loans won't be as big Of course we have our problems aswell, but geez, I am so happy to live here :P
+Mary - as a lame birthday present, as you are a member of the phandom, you now have an excuse to re-watch dan and Phil's 2014 baking vids. Bc Evan is wearing Phil's ghost shirt!!!
I just released how cheap University's are here in South Africa (around R40000-R60000 a year or $2500-$3800 per year however this excludes books and student housing which would double your costs )and that our system is somewhere between the UK and USA.
So American uni is just expensive advanced high school? At least it gets you out of home. That bachelor's degree sounds almost worthless. My mechanical engineering degree was 4 years of laser focus. The Australian system sounds half way between the us and uk. About 30k for a degree but the loan is interest free and you dont pay it back til you make 70k a year (it comes out automatically)
+Em Bridget So basically the Universities take up the slack of shit high schools? I thought american universities had performance-based admissions? Shouldn't that mean everyone is at least on the same level upon enrollment?
Yes basically. You do take some focused courses in the last two years, but the first two years are very general stuff - similar to high school only more expensive and you're away from home usually.
Yeah this is mostly about English universities. Scotland and Northern Ireland have completely different education systems. And Wales has some differences too I think. Student loans are a de facto graduate tax really.
I'm American and go to American University, but a year ago I spent a semester at the University of Leeds and holy shit, I have no idea how Brits manage to get by without multiple assignments per class (module), so much respect! I was genuinely shitting myself when in my Shakespeare course I had 2 papers and an exam, because at my state school in the US I usually have around 7-8 essays per English module and I've always done well with that because I have time to actually understand what each professor wants from me (as English is so subjective!) I have no idea how you do it, but kudos!
I used to watch this video all the time when I was in high school to get excited about Uni and now I'm leaving in a week. Somehow this video ended up in my recommended today. Life is crazy!
In Sweden university is free. We even get a contribution monthly (in addition to our student loans) which we don't have to pay back. So you can say we got payed for going to the university. We even get this contribution when we are in the Swedish version of high school. People are probably going to say that nothing is free and that we pay for this with taxes, but this is WAY BETTER than the American model were you can't go if you don't have enough money. Also it's still way cheaper for the average person.
Societies in UK universities are the best thing ever. At York St John University, there is a queuing society in which students go into york and form random queues in the hopes of tourists joining, then leave leaving the random people very confused (This is funded by the university by the way).
omg i really love this little british vs american series you're doing evan!! i always wanted to compare the differences and see the reactions of the other of both nationalities :)
In Scotland, my uni experience was a bit different. I took three different subjects in first year (maths classics and philosophy) 3 subjects in second year (maths classics and history) and then in my honours year I continued only with Classics, and that is the degree I will graduate with. I love how Glasgow works, recommend it to everyone
When I was writing my essay, my friend put the final paragraph on a high shelf, I really needed that paragraph but did want to jump to conclusions....badum tss here all week people
Evan! Student Unions are a part of a lot of unis in America. In Oregon we have Student Union buildings at every public university that house the student governments, resource centers, conference rooms, restaurants, bookstore, give or take a thing. :)
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+doddleoddle Dodie I described you as "the taylor swift of youtube" earlier
Is it bad I ship it
No offense but dodie and Lucy would be cute together ❤️
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I'm British. I just don't understand the American system. I thought the point of higher education was to go to university/college and specialise in a specific subject and get a degree. How can you specialise in something if you have to do English, history, maths, the history of art?!
Its specialization in your last 2 years. Because US high schools have so many varieties, each University has to make sure each student has the ability and knowledge to specify, as some kids will and some wont upon entrance.
Not everyone knows what they want to do when entering university. It's nice to have the opportunity to learn about numerous things before having to commit. Thats the reasoning behind elective, plus they're a way to expand your mind passed just the field you want to go into. Taking art at a Biomedical Sciences major was really relaxing and a good way to balance with my natural science courses.
The American Higher Education system is just for coin TBH. A waste of 2 of 4 years.
Joshua Mitchell me too, where I'm fron you have 8 years of middle and highschool where you're forved to take ~ 14-19 subjebts (depending on the school's curriculum) and don't get to chose anything apart from the 3rd or 4th language you'll learn in year 5(of the 8), so by the end of highschool, you have the best general knowledge you could possibly have, uni is for specification, why continue general knowledge, you gotta specify at some point
the american education system is a year behind us so their first year of uni is like our last year of a level. Kids in america start school at age 6/7 where as here we start at 5/6. My friend has a conditional scholarship to UCLA and only has to get ABB to miss the first year of american uni
Wow. I still prefer the UK Uni's because focusing on one subject i s less stressfull.
It depends how many topics you have to take. I think the US system is better because you can tailor your degree to suit your tastes, rather than finding out that you hate it and having to drop out for a year in order to start again at square one (I have multiple friends who ended up doing this). Furthermore it encourages broader education and means that humanities majors can at least dip into college level science and vice versa. Much better overall (if you exclude the price and the clearly extortionate textbook system).
we do the one subject in MUCH more detail though, equally stressful tbh
you study one subject, but you learn more of that subject. British courses are more in depth basically.
not only are they more in depth, they're TOO in depth. half the stuff they teach you, you'll never need to use in a professional job.
the thing is though, that most american universities are behind british univerities which is why in the first year american students learn a mixture of things because english students learnt it the year before. My friend has a conditional scholarship to ucla and he only has to achieve ABB to miss the first year of university in america
Hearing all this detailed shit about college and university, as a junior in highschool, makes me want to run away to the woods and become a forest person.
+αναℓση It is intimidating but don't worry, people generally want to help you (atleast in the UK) and it is extremely overrated for the money you pay in the UK, all you pay for it guidance and the degree certificate, that's it pretty much.
you are me😩😭
Go into uni in Ireland its really cheap and fun. Theres sports teams and options some of the tops universities in ireland are University College Dublin, National University of Ireland Galway , University College Cork , University of Limerick , Maynooth University and Dublin City University
let's go together
same
In Denmark university is free. From you are 18 you get paid by the governtment to go to school (High school and university). It's not very much in high school, but in university it's 900 dollars each month. We don't have dorms so you have to rent a place yourself.
Also we can drink from what age we want. We just can't buy alcohol until we are 16. (16: Light alcohol and 18: strong alcohol.)
Okay that's awesome
Mum, we're moving to Denmark!
It's free in Scotland too and if you stay on in school for 5th and 6th year (being 16-18) and your parents don't make a certain amount of money then you get paid every week and same for college...not sure about uni though
Amanda Egebjerg-Møller Im moving
As a current university student,
I thank the British government for loaning me their money…
That they'll probably never get back
#RobthisEngland
Ohhhh they'll get it back... No matter which way *cracks whip*
LaytonChronicles OMG NOOOO NOT A RACE JOKE I SWEAR IM SOOO SORRY ARGHHH WHAT HAVE I DONE
Lucy Allsop Ahaha,
Somehow, without knowing what you look like, I imagined your reaction
It's all good :')
LaytonChronicles my head was on the table.
Loving these UK vs American videos
Love name and icon ;)
Love your videos!
Kira Howlter Thank you.
+Beth Philosaur you're on every video i see I'm scared
+Harrison Fletcher-Brooke I'm just youtube trash. I like commenting on youtuber's video.
Scotland: a plastic bag costs more than your education
+ Jane Doe Same in Germany.
Same in Finland!!
paranoid android no they didn’t....
Isla Lawson yes they did, scottish mp’s were under the Labour whip back then, and so they voted with Labour to introduce them in England but not in scotland
@David Clinging david go fuck yourself.
I'm absolutely blown away by how much you guys have to pay! I go to a Finnish uni, we don't have any fees and mostly can get the books from our library (which also means it's always a bit of a hunt to get them on time..). There is a mandatory fee for the students union (100€/year) and small fees for subject associations (10-50€/year). And we don't have dorms so have to rent, but the city has cheaper housing for students. And EVERY student gets financial support from the state. I get about 200€/month, still living at home. If you're renting and don't earn much, the amount is about double. To get this money you have to get enough study points per year, but that's not too much really.
I feel incredibly lucky, writing this all out... Okay so basically guys, come to study in Finland 😅
And that money I mentioned you get to keep. Student loans are available as well on top of that
Wow!! That's amazing. I wish the US would value education like that. It's so depressing to leave school with tens of thousands of dollars in debt. People who go on to study to be a doctor, for example, have more years of schooling even and can end up with hundreds of thousands in debt. Such a bad influence on the nation's economy.
In scotland, you don't need to pay any university or college fees if you are a Scottish resident :)
Melissa Cook good for Scots!
It's so frustrating the amount you have to pay to go to college in the US. I go to a public/state university so I have what is considered a LOW total cost of $20,000 a year. Most private universities (like the Ivy Leagues) cost upwards of $60,000 a year.
You guys are assuming that someone with a PhD is a good teacher. Teaching is a skill that is entirely different. I have multiple degrees(5) and some of the best instruction came from people with Masters Degrees. Some of my absolute worst classes were from idiots with a Doctorate. They were very knowledgeable in their field but had no clue how to disseminate the information and make it interesting. I had a calculus professor that was a genius and could do any math problem or scenario, however he could not teach what he knew to the class. We all just looked at each other and said we are screwed. He should have never been allowed to interact with students.
"Pretty much every uni in the UK is 9 grand a year. And some are like 6 grand a year."
Except, you know, Scotland. 😎
Kerry Peterson isn't that only if u live in Scotland, because if i went to a uni in Scotland I would have to pay 9k
yeah if you live in scotland it's free although sometime you'd have to pay up to £2,000 depending on accomodation etc
Also SAAS! Oh my god! Love it! They give you like £500 minimum every year! I mean, £8000 a year Loan, £500 is a bursary!
Tuition fees at all British universities used to be paid (since WWII) by the students' local authorities as long as they qualified for a grant (for housing and expenses): which depended on their parents' income the previous year. Fees were abolished in 1976, but reintroduced in 1998 at £1000/yr by Tony Blair, supposedly a Labour prime minister, for England and Wales. The Scottish government introduced them for English students, since Scots have to pay if they study in England. Grants were replaced by student loans. The amount universities are allowed to charge has gone up: all of them ask for the maximum permitted. Overseas students pay very much more. Many courses are only commercially viable if there are enough overseas students.
Just to clarify the part about Masters degrees being 6 years in the US - the Masters program itself is only 2 years, the 6 years includes getting your 4 year bachelors degree first, which you have to have in order to get the Masters. I hope that makes sense to whoever is reading this!
+bellapalmera that's good to know, I was pretty shocked at the MA programme being 6 whole years xD Here (Germany) it's roughly the same, 3 years BA, 2 years MA.
+keeponrockin A decent amount of masters degrees are also one year if taken full time.
what would full time mean in that case? because German MA degrees that last 2 years are also mean to be full-time, just like a BA taking 3 years is a full-time course of studies.
+keeponrockin Full time BA in the US with no prior units carrying over from highschool is typically 4 years. a masters can be anywhere from one year to anywhere really. there's two types of masters: Taught and Research. Taught is the typical classroom and exam format, which means it has a scheduled beginning an end like regular school. Research is done when you finish the topic you are researching which then typically requires a thesis. The thesis is a rather large paper and can be a pretty hefty project. Even after you've done the research, typically you still must have the paper topic approved by a scholastic board of professors at W/e university your studying at. If they don't approve, you'll have to step back and to a certain extent start over. Depending on how bold you are in your choice of research, it can can take years in itself. Aldo when I say paper, I really mean a book. some thesis can be in the 100s of pages
King George That's interesting. I Germany, I guess all Masters degrees are taught, but you won't get around doing your own research. I have to take exams and also write research papers, just like I had to for my BA. Lectures usually end with a written exam, while seminars usually require you two write 15 - 20 pages. My final BA thesis only had to be 30 pages/75.000 letters, my MA thesis is required to be 80 pages long.
I would like to see you react to British sitcoms, because, not bragging, but we did make some of the best sitcoms ever.
so true brit sitcoms are the best
OUTNUMBERED
Miranda 👌
+Miriam France MIRANDA IS THE BEST THING EVER I WISH IT HADNT ENDED
Phoebe Storch Or Gavin and Stacy!
This is more to do with English Universities. In Scotland our degrees are 4-5 years long depending on the degree, and they are completely funded. There are also several bursaries available so if you're paying rent with your student loan you can still afford to live comfortably. Most people also choose three subjects in first year (including their main degree), continue two of them in second year and then focus on their main degree or a joint degree in their honours years. Also, the ancient universities tend to be more spread out around their cities than campus based; for example, Edinburgh University owns over 700 buildings around the city.
@hufflepuff harry potter lover scotland is in britain so your comment is completely redundant. Wales didn't even get a bloody mention!
Evan looks like a blonde, American Phil in this video XD
(He even has the same T-shirt)!
I'm so happy I'm not the only one to notice XD
I thought I was the only one who thought that omg
my mind was just blown
As soon as the video started, I paused to look for these comments lol
I think we all thought this tbh
I live in Scotland & we don't pay for university here, a thing called SAAS funds for every students university education which is amazing!
+Bronwyn Byrne LUCY LED ME ASTRAY
+Evan Edinger if you are from England you do have to pay if you go to a university in Scotland
i know thats why i said in Scotland we dont pay which is amazing
Amazing when I go to unerversity il move to scotland xD
Wow Evan, that shirt looks phantastic on you
+mpk0422 Ayyy
and plus it's Phil's t-shirt too
+Naomi Ruth ;) you know it
No
Phan Army so much yes
+Mktrenton the sun if the universe wbu (but you should subscribe- amazingphil)
Here's me just being like..... Scotland's education is free for Scottish students....
Sky Lark Also for EU students, but not for fellow Brits :p
I was also thinking that when she said that basically all Universities in the UK cost 9 grand xd.
*high five*
If you’re not from Scotland and you go there to study, the fees you pay are the ones you would pay at home. In Ireland it’s technically free because there isn’t tuition but here is a €3000 registration fee but in Scotland that isn’t counted so it’s free for Irish people in Scotland.
here is me being like, WHAT? WHY? NO?
Sky Lark it annoys me Scotland is completely different and much better and then that go call it the uk and Britain yeah we are part of it to I wish we weren’t tho I fucking hate England
US universities are much more easy than UK unis. I had a Geography teacher for A level and he told us a story how he went for a year to study in the US for his degree and he was allowed to give lectures because the level of geography that he had learnt at age 17/18 for A levels was higher than the level for the US degree. Apparently the US students were doing multiple choice questions as well and the teachers were amazed that he could write essays.
I'm not sure what 4th tier university he went to, at almost every American university essay's are the majority of coursework assigned
Yea for real. Unless it was like a 100 or non major class (which would be mostly freshmen and jrs/srs looking for an easy A to fill credits) And unless he was a TA, masters student, no way was he lecturing doesn't work like that
Idk what university he went to, but that is far from the norm. As a 1st year college student I have already had to write multiple essays and the only time a course uses multiple choice is when it is a lecture with 600+ students, even then there is often an essay portion of the test.
Doug McQuade bruh what school did he got to, I need some easy A classes
Yeah I heard the American version of the Leaving Cert (English is A Levels I think) is multiple choice :o
Just Subscribed! You're living my dream as an American in London. Went there couple of years ago and it has stayed with me since!
Loved listening to you both talk! Very interesting
+HiFelicia thanks!
I can't stand London...
+Evan Edinger bye felicia
+Chloe Blake HOW 😵
Why??
Love the British vs American videos , but some of them are more English vs American . E.g In Scotland we don't pay to go to University (: Include us Scottish, Welsh and Irish ! 💙🇬🇧
+Ellis.A Sorry! This one is probably my fault for being extra english
+meowitslucy It's okay ahaha, just me being picky 😊
yeah but wales and n.I have the same as England, its just Scotland demands to be special
+Alex Turlais Ooohhh hell no, you did not just say that to a proud Scottish person >_
Ellis.A you mean stubborn?
In Germany you barely have to pay tuition fees (like 2.000 euros a year which is fine (but it depends on the thing you study)) and the uni system is like the English one; overall I think our universities are quite good, except for the difference that we don't have campuses here. I'd imagine that to be so cool sigh
+Mandy Stahr Campuses are my fave part!
Evan Edinger exactly lol but then it's like "do i stay in germany without campuses and also no fees or do i go to england where i can live on a campus and pay a shit ton of money" well i'm sorry england
+Mandy Stahr Not all universities here in the UK have campuses either. Some do, some don't. So if you do come, make sure you check it out first!
+Mandy Stahr We have a campus at my uni and i'm studying in Germany...
Alice Tamara
really?! i've never heard or seen that ever before here
In Scotland, we pay taxes so that every child can go to uni, not how rich your parents are. Most universities in Scotland, you have your degree subject and you do a bunch of other topics with it and we don't pay our loans back until we earn a certain amount. They way students are treated in the rest of the U.K. is awful!
agreeeee 1000% ridiculous having to pay
+Kirsty Campbell Thank you for saying how Scotland's different, literally feel like I have to comment every time with these UK vs USA videos. When it comes to education the UK can't be represented as one :P
+Tailsbeth yeeeeees!
+Kirsty Campbell the way you pay isn't any different
***** yay! But it had to be closed :( at least the new bridge is on schedule and under budget!
“In England we all just make friends”
What? No. In England we all avoid each other like the plague.
A well-aged comment.
Hahahaha indeed we do!
I think that everyone now
Could people please do that with the current plague-like disease.
this shouldn't be called British😂 hahahaha I'm in uni in Scotland there's no tuition fees😂
Sorry, university in Scotland is a bit differant to university in England. I love this video though! :)
Ahahaha I'm Scottish and I was thinking the same thing
Actually it's English university's VS American as Scottish university's are FREE
@hufflepuff harry potter lover yes it is
@hufflepuff harry potter lover how...... daft can you be?
So usa high schools are so crappy that you have to spend time at university to learn the stuff students from other countries learned when they were actually IN highschool? That must be so annoying...
LenaWolschaap no no we learned that stuff in high school too... they make us re learn it because apparently that makes us more "well rounded". Its bullshit.
Evan just touches on it! The system is actually broken. For example, an american student can do well in high school and even take advanced courses called AP courses (along with the AP exams) that are suppose to actually clear the student from having to take the course at university, only to find out that the number of universities that actually allow these AP courses are quite small. There are so many ways that american universities force students to take extra courses it is ridiculous. It is always about them making more money.
In my school you could go to a community college for free during your last two years of high school so about half my class finished high school with all their generals done which transferred to almost any college in my state
when will evan run out of British (and Irish *cough*) friends stay tuned to find out
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God I love the phandom
The only thing that doesn't cost any fee or tuition in US college is breathing, at least not yet.
owch, I did two years of my degree at a £6000 a year college/uni which was community college equivalent and I wouldn't call it one of 'the bad ones' at all and I very much wanted to go there. Not about the status of where you go, just what you make of it!
I thought this too!! I actually study with the OU, so god knows what she thinks of that.
WAIT WAIT WAIT - the book situation isn't the same for all UK universities. It is in fact a new thing now (starting this year) in some universities to have your core books for free but for many it isn't. Although, our books are rarely that expensive (referring to the physics book).
+llinossmiles The difference is, in the UK the lecturer will never say "turn to page 241 in your textbook". They're expected to provide all of the information in their lectures and write assignment questions themselves. So its often useful to own textbooks to help you, but you don't *need* to have them really. And usually the university library will have copies of all the main books so you can just borrow them if you want them to help with an assignment or something. From what Evan said, I get the impression that in the US you literally need the textbook because the lecturer will refer to it directly and if you don't have it you won't know whats going on.
Oh yeah I mean I get that, I was just pointing out that not all UK universities are the same
+Emerald Ibis Nah, half the time you never even need the book on they syllabus they tell you to get the first two weeks of class in the US. Unless you are in a class where you have to bring to book to class and that part of your grade, you can just borrow them for free from the library. I only purchased and rented a handful of books my entire undergrad life. I used the library and its scanner/photocopier.
+Emerald Ibis well it depends on your course and uni still. Eg, I'm doing English lit at a small uni that has a tiny library. We did HAVE to buy £100 worth of textbooks in first year, that we read in class, or we had to have read for the next week because discussions. And yes you can borrow from the library, but with over 300 students doing eng lit, with about 10 copies in the library there's not much you can do but buy them. In addition, we always have 'set texts' that we have to read that aren't at all provided and aren't available in the library. In my 3 modules this semester I've had to buy 10 books on Amazon amounting to about £120 doing it the cheapest way. Without the books I wouldn't be able to do any of the assignments or go to any lectures because you are expected to discuss the texts in length during the lecture/seminar.
marija
Ah OK, I guess that makes sense for a course like yours. I did a science course, so I hadn't really thought of that!
The way you guys talk about this and the background music is so relaxing but then I realize I have to start applying to colleges **starts hyperventilating**
Aww poor Basking
Ayla R AWWW really? Thanks so much! Love you!
Same D:
I have an essay due by midnight ;_;
US university sounds like literal hell
It is
You're right, it's awful
The money part of it, but that shouldn't define your whole experience.
skipped it. Went to a 2 year conservatory (still mad expensive)
+chocolatecoatedllama no they are nice, other than being in serious debt for a crazy amount of your life, it is an amazing opportunity and you can really branch out and learn so many different things while still focusing on you major and minors etc.
In Sweden we get paid to go to school actually. Like the mandatory nine years and gymnasium you get a certain amount every month and then in Uni you can loan money.
I found this very interesting! And also really glad that I went to Uni in UK, it sounds so expensive getting a higher education in America.
Is it just me or does Evan seem to be developing a British accent?
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I've actually been looking at universities abroad and this really helped! :)
+Eve Bennett I genuinely recommend at least studying abroad in America for a semester or 2! It's a good experience! :)
Evan Edinger It's on my list of options!!
+Eve Bennett +Evan Edinger I go to University in England but studying in America for a year at the moment, loving it!
hey eve! love ur channel so much! cant believe evan replied to u!
This video was really helpful. I am thinking about going to uni in Britain and this has pretty much confirmed that I will probably do that.
Also I would totally use that "capitalism" thing as my ringtone
+Steampunk Llama I've literally just got my university application in (I'm British and am applying to British unis). The application process is stressful (although it sounds much better than the American one), so good luck! What subject do you want to do?
+Steampunk Llama terrible idea
Secondary school in the UK is v hard, (GCSEs equivalent to SATs at age 14/15/16), college is also hard and university isn't as hard as the above😅
+Steampunk Llama if u can afford it then do it. Its the best/worst time of your life.
This is why I love being Scottish and going to Edinburgh uni. No fees yo
A good uni with no tuition fee......I'm kinda jealous now
A plus side for me going to a community college was that the instructors were generally good about making the books/materials affordable. The campus library also carried at least one copy of the textbooks being used that you could check out for two hour blocks of time (you couldn't remove them from the library though). I always appreciated these efforts to make things affordable for the students. Affordability is why one would choose a community college in the first place after all.
This was fascinating, intriguing and occasionally appalling. The money you guys have to spend!!! Also SO glad I did an art course. I did three essays in the entire of my BA. That said, I have basically zero job prospects relating to my course lmFAO.
His comments about uni in America is very New Jersey and his school specific. For each state regulations and payments for public colleges will be different and within the circle of public colleges within that state, payments and regulations will be different. Nothing is completely standardized anywhere. And schools in different regions of the country will be very different from other regions. It will also highly depend on the major/course you've decided to do. I never had to pay for a $300 book in my whole college career and I wouldn't ever say that the books I had to get for my courses in total ever amounted to $300 per semester. It also helps to know where to get your books from. There are many online websites that look for the cheapest options across all the major academic book websites. My tuition a year was about $7k - 8k unless I had to pay for rooming on campus and I didn't go to a bad college at all. Schools in the Northeast are notoriously more expensive than most of the country, especially with most of the Ivys being up there. So a lot of people go down south for college because even with out of state tuition it's less expensive and a better education than schools up north (at least on the east coast). I find throughout this UK vs US series it's all been only his experience (which is of course what he has to draw from), but you have to take that into account cause the US is huge and for the most part each state is going to be very different for a lot of things and depending on your own financial situation, you're going to view the colleges in very different ways. And that's not even getting into private schools that make their own rules entirely.
Woah! Who's this Lucy girl? She's funny, I'm gonna sub to her.
Her TH-cam username is MeowItsLucy, I think!
+Emma Laird I'm pretty sure Chai was joking
+Ben Tregenna oh. Well, it's nice to be nice, I guess haha
+MyNamesChai Are you and Lucy going to date?
Same. LOVE YOU CHAi!
At my university in the UK we have a 24/7 library in term time, pretty much every single book we need is there and so we don't need to buy books. Most research papers are free. There are different types of accommodation, most being flats with 20 people in them over three floors. If we decide to do a second degree we do have to pay for that one.
I'm also doing dual honours, so kind of like two degrees as I'm doing two subjects. Hence I'm doing two dissertations, of 5000-10,000 words each!
omg US university sounds like the shittiest thing
They are
Kate H i feel for u
Nah I wouldn't say that we have really good state school (at least here in Texas aka a state in the U.S)
To be fair he did say that his uni was rated pretty low... prosb not same for all of them :D
Still, 12k for the cheapest school, that's daylight robbery.
woow in italy it's much harder!! italian uni students do an average of 10 or 12 exams a year, usually during two specific times of the year like during january/february and june/july. classes start usually at semptember and you go to class until you take the exams wich are both written and oral tests and then you start other classes and do other exams and so on..
people never get grades on something they did at home
Bloody love Evan and Lucy collabs!
+Joe Sheldon I love them too!
Where's your pinafore/ dress from? x
+meowitslucy I'm backing Izzy's question, please tell me where your pinafore and jumper is from? They're GORGEOUS!
i always forget university is that expensive for the rest of the UK. the welsh government capped it at £3000 and i don't understand why england didn't just do that too?? fuckin clegg. but like whuuuuuut how does anyone in america even afford to exist and learn ANYTHING
+OhItsJustKim It was £3300 until 2012 or so wasn't it? I absolutely hate the government for the amount we have to pay in England. I sort of want devolved powers in England too so they only control things that are essential for the whole country but we'd still end up with Tories in charge so it wouldn't help much.
+OhItsJustKim In the US we can get loans, grants, and/or scholarships. Evan said his community college was free because of scholarships, without those it would have cost him at least $2000 a semester. My first year of community college I had to pay some out of pocket, but grants covered most of it. My second year was free because I got a tuition waiver because my mom got a job at my school, so I only had to pay for books which was covered by my grant. Paying for it is possible, but it can be kinda difficult.
Waaaales❤️❤️
And, you know, in Scotland it's free *cough*
+Emma SAME! urgh god my sister was born in scotland (happpy holiday accident) and she'll get her uni fees for free, it's ridiculous. It shouldn't be so expensive in Britain, it would be helpful if the people in our government actually understood what money means to ordinary people...
I love these difference videos, Savannah. Keep 'em coming.
In the video 2:53 to 2:56
Lucy: (questioning)"Who pays for that?"
Evan: (screaming) ME!!!!!
Lucy: "Where from?" and "No one has that money"
Evan: (screaming) "I DON'T KNOW!!!!"
Did anyone else imagine David tennant screaming “I DONT KNOW” from his first full ep
Watching videos about higher education in other countries always make me appreciate the Danish system. Both the fact that education is free, that we get S.U and that we, as in the UK, do one specific subject while at university. Also, friday bars ❤️
I realize now that I love Norway...
+Laura Fossmark We are frikkin lucky over here!
+Laura Fossmark What is it like in Norway? Just out of interest.
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Joe M If we don't include private universities there's a lot. Public education is free, our loans go to housing, food, books and other things we need, thus making our debt remarkably less then yours. Very few people live in dorms, there are more shared flats or tiny student homes. We have no sororities but the student union organise loads of different stuff. This is poorly explained, but if there's anything else, please ask :)
I think it's an American thing to share a room as I am in student halls at the moment. I have my own room but I share a hall between about 10. I see about that student loan part, that would be good. When people argue that the tuition fee's are good in England they always say 'Oh well if we stop paying £9000 a year then the university won't be as good' and I just say '....bollocks mate, look at other countries'.
It's literally 4 AM and I'm watching this. I'm gonna be screwed when school starts again with this sleeping pattern.
You started a master's dissertation the night before, allowing for the usual exaggeration, maybe a week before. Wtf were you studying?!
i know a guy who wrote his *bachelor's* dissertation for MONTHS.
Not Legato everyone writes their dissertations for months!!
Joshua Mitchell oh, several months ago, i knew severly less about university, and how it worked. yes yes, i know.
Not Legato Our dissertation including the research took the whole final year. We had other modules to do as well. But a month before the deadline we had to have a rough dissertation to get advice on it from our lecturer. So doing it the night before wasn't optional! And 10-12,000 words in one night? No thanks!
Hi! I stumbled on your channel while searching for a cool video about the differences between studying in the US and England that I could show my English language students in Indonesia. Cut to three hours later -- it was 2 am and I had binge watched everything from cereal to Cockney accents. What a great vlog you've got going -- thanks and please keep them coming!
2 years of college down in America and already $20,000 in debt. 'Merica
I know the feeling.
Unless u get a pell grant and then the government pays for the college or scholarships or u work for the college in exchange for it paying the tuition.
And you will graduate with far less knowledge than if you pursued a trade. I know...it sucks
@@syrinacrockett8290 that's only of you're super poor
Lauryn Howell I’m not super poor and I get pell grants. 🤷🏻♀️
is it just me or does lucy kinda look like keira knightley?
a little bit?
LONG LIVE SCOTTISH FREE UNIVERSITIES
YESSSS
David Clinging wow dude you must be fun at party’s eh stfu
@David Clinging wtf
and please bring them to ulster
EDINBURGH REPRESENT!!!
Regarding US college costs: I was going to go to Berklee College of Music as a music therapy major, and the tuition there is $65k a year and rising. Due to medical setbacks, though, I've had to stay home and take online courses through a local community college working towards a 'communication studies' major, and I think my first semester's tuition was maybe $3k-$5k? Bearing in mind that Berklee is one of the best music schools in the country (Think Julliard level greatness or better) and does 4-year bachelor's degrees AND graduate school, and my community college only does 2-year associate's degree programs and I'm taking my classes online to cut down costs further, that's still quite the price difference.
As a Canadian, it's interesting to really see how we are a mix of both (in my experience)
and i just learnt how chill Australian uni's are ooft, whole new appreciation
In Scotland it's free sooooooooooo
For Scottish citizens and EU, not for the rest of the world though.
+Lewis james
Does that mean English students can all just study in Scotland for free?
+Jaw Ji I wish! Nah we still have to pay the £9000 like we would in England.
Yaldi
David Clinging no it’s isn’t
Yeahhhhh British schools don't teach us grammatical terms, and it's always proper awkward when foreign people know them and you don't. I mean, we know the grammar rules, we just don't know the names of them.
They do teach them now like I'm 22 and my younger brother is 17 and he knows all of these terms that I dont know the name of and I didn an English degree
They don’t teach them in Ireland either. In 1st year (7th grade/year 8) you stop learning grammar and spelling entirely and start learning how to write essays and analyse texts.
Traditional grammar used to be taught, but the teaching profession had a change of heart in the 1970's and all of that was junked, at least in state schools. Private schools carried on because the parents wanted it.
Wow as an American that shocks me. We always assume the U.K people are probably experts at that type of thing.. We have to learn this stuff every year from about 1st grade (age 6) and we have to diagram the sentences.
This is more England vs America.. in Scotland all tuition is free, paid for by the government. Nevertheless I love this series :D
This is one of the only insightful videos about the US university lifestyle.Thank you for making it. Its really helped with my decision to come and study in the US
Lucy introducing her uni was like the beginning of university challenge and I’m living for it
Watching to help me feel a little better about applying for university in a couple of months.
Lucy:responsible Adult
Evan:responsible adUlt
America vs UK
I always forget that uni is super expensive for the rest of the UK! I'm Scottish and our tuition fees are paid for us which is so so lucky, I don't even understand how people manage to pay so much per year?!
+charis sandison Rich families
But most people (at least in America) use student loans. Which is not always great. My ex-step father went to college in America and now (or at least was last I heard) works at Microsoft.....but he's paying student loans for the next 30 years. 30 years! that's the same as a house loan.
I live in America and am considering studying abroad in England for a semester in college, so this is actually really useful.
Lisa Tarsavage Do it. Explore the world.
This is so helpful for me because I'm going to be an exchange student in England and I'm from Canada (so it's like an in between of Canada and America)
He looks like a mixture of Phil Lester and Tyler Oakley xD
i loooove these British and American comparisons
+Chloe F Thanks Chloe! :)
evans videos are always quieter than most
also, i love love love the uk vs american series BUT Scotland is often thrown in with the uk facts like "£9000 a year" one when in fact university in scotland is free! gotta be aware of scotland's devolved powers as there is such a difference between education here compared to england
I actually really appreciate this video as a US college student who is moving to the UK soon, and thus will be continuing the rest of my university education there.
This is so interesting. I am a university student in Sweden (which is also where I am from) and I know that we in many ways are super lucky, but I guess I needed a reminder.
- We don't pay anything to apply
- We generally don't have to write an application but apply on our acaemic scores only (depends a bit on what you're applying for though)
- Tuition is free
- Books are not free and can sometimes be super expensive, but at least at my school (medical school) a second hand book is almost always fine
- All students can apply for financial aid, and a small part of it is just state funded so our loans won't be as big
Of course we have our problems aswell, but geez, I am so happy to live here :P
I know no one cares but it's my birthday tomorrow.
Also these England vs America videos are so interesting!
+Mary - happy birthday for tomorrow xx
Happy early birthday!
Happy early birthday!😊
+Mary - as a lame birthday present, as you are a member of the phandom, you now have an excuse to re-watch dan and Phil's 2014 baking vids. Bc Evan is wearing Phil's ghost shirt!!!
I just released how cheap University's are here in South Africa (around R40000-R60000 a year or $2500-$3800 per year however this excludes books and student housing which would double your costs )and that our system is somewhere between the UK and USA.
So American uni is just expensive advanced high school? At least it gets you out of home.
That bachelor's degree sounds almost worthless. My mechanical engineering degree was 4 years of laser focus.
The Australian system sounds half way between the us and uk. About 30k for a degree but the loan is interest free and you dont pay it back til you make 70k a year (it comes out automatically)
Well that's if u want to stay and live there u don't have to
+Em Bridget So basically the Universities take up the slack of shit high schools?
I thought american universities had performance-based admissions? Shouldn't that mean everyone is at least on the same level upon enrollment?
Yes basically. You do take some focused courses in the last two years, but the first two years are very general stuff - similar to high school only more expensive and you're away from home usually.
Rob749s In the US engineering tends to be in a specialized college with very few "breadth" requirements, also laser focused.
They do, but a large amount of people just dont go to college.
It's so weird watching these videos as an Australian. Everything is so different but really similar at the same time
Masters in the US is 2yrs.
PhD/DPhil: Typically, UK is around 3yrs, US is 5-7.
Yeah this is mostly about English universities.
Scotland and Northern Ireland have completely different education systems. And Wales has some differences too I think.
Student loans are a de facto graduate tax really.
5:27 He said a mathS degree! I love this channel already!
and then we're sitting here in Scotland going to uni for free...
Yup and us English pay for it! Fun!
I'm American and go to American University, but a year ago I spent a semester at the University of Leeds and holy shit, I have no idea how Brits manage to get by without multiple assignments per class (module), so much respect! I was genuinely shitting myself when in my Shakespeare course I had 2 papers and an exam, because at my state school in the US I usually have around 7-8 essays per English module and I've always done well with that because I have time to actually understand what each professor wants from me (as English is so subjective!) I have no idea how you do it, but kudos!
I used to watch this video all the time when I was in high school to get excited about Uni and now I'm leaving in a week. Somehow this video ended up in my recommended today.
Life is crazy!
I'm actually really excited to go to uni in 2 years 😁
I hope you're enjoying it!
At Danish uni you get paid to go. Like 6 grant (danish kroners) a MONTH!
watching this and panicking because I have mocks that will decide my predicted grades tomorrow and I'm not ready................
Saaaaaaaammeeee
predicted grades mean nothing. a levels will make you 1000% more stressed I promise
I'm sure you meant well, but that wasn't exactly a helpful comment.
Thanks, they actually went ok!
In Sweden university is free. We even get a contribution monthly (in addition to our student loans) which we don't have to pay back. So you can say we got payed for going to the university. We even get this contribution when we are in the Swedish version of high school. People are probably going to say that nothing is free and that we pay for this with taxes, but this is WAY BETTER than the American model were you can't go if you don't have enough money. Also it's still way cheaper for the average person.
Societies in UK universities are the best thing ever. At York St John University, there is a queuing society in which students go into york and form random queues in the hopes of tourists joining, then leave leaving the random people very confused (This is funded by the university by the way).
I'm sorry but Evan looks a lot like Phil today a t-shirt exactly the same, the hair the same, and the glasses are similar... The phantom is everywhere
*phandom
+ButterflyBonanza THERE'S A GHOST IN MY ROOM!?
+Evan Edinger RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
wow im soo happy I live in Europe
A Master's degree is 2 years (sometimes 1) in the U.S...not 6.
I'm pretty sure he was including the time it took him to get his bachelors because you can't be in a masters program without a bachelors
omg i really love this little british vs american series you're doing evan!! i always wanted to compare the differences and see the reactions of the other of both nationalities :)
In Scotland, my uni experience was a bit different. I took three different subjects in first year (maths classics and philosophy) 3 subjects in second year (maths classics and history) and then in my honours year I continued only with Classics, and that is the degree I will graduate with. I love how Glasgow works, recommend it to everyone
ok scottish people we get it your universities are free omg
Ikr
Stfu let us vent
It's one of the only good things about living in Scotland versus living anywhere else. Shut the fuck up and let us have our moment.
When I was writing my essay, my friend put the final paragraph on a high shelf, I really needed that paragraph but did want to jump to conclusions....badum tss here all week people
It's back, it's the spooky Phil shirt
It's so interesting to see these as a Canadian! In my experience, it's a bit of both! 😄
Evan! Student Unions are a part of a lot of unis in America. In Oregon we have Student Union buildings at every public university that house the student governments, resource centers, conference rooms, restaurants, bookstore, give or take a thing. :)