This video is legendary to me. I saw it when I started riding, and it impacted me deeply: the riding, the filming, the discussions, the roads, the bikes… I come back to watch it over the years
MUNROmusic big money difference. You could buy the Suzuki and the Kawasaki for what the BMW and kTM cost! Almost anyways they are a lot more money so they should be far better!
Tony Tng have a 1000r it handles great turns in fast holds a line, been riding for 8 yrs now and the bike is a lot better than me. mid range torque and sound is ridiculous
I am PROFOUNDLY not interested in this class of motorcycle, but I keep coming back to this video because it's simply the best-made shootout video on the internet.
I really dig this long-form discussion style of shootout... much better than "we caned a dozen liter bikes around a track and they're all unsurprisingly good at it."
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Really enjoyed this video guys thanks. The naked market is far bigger now than the superbike market so these reviews are becoming more valuable. There's plenty of comments about other bikes that could have been included, but I imagine it depends what bikes you can get hold of. I have to agree with some of the guys though, it seems a bit of a mixed bag of reviews really and some bikes don't match up. For a start the monster doesn't belong in this group. If a ducati was to be included, it should be the streetfighter, either the 848 or 1098. They provide direct competition for the Aprilia. MV have made loads of effort producing the 800 dragster as they are struggling financially and it would have been nice to have seen it in this group as it certainly deserves to be and with 3 cylinders would have been a good competitor to the triumph. That said, even if the bikes don't match up, it still good to hear of any bike being subjectively assessed as you guys do. Thanks again
The Suzuki has a $1,000.00 incentive right now.If the dealer moves on his price too,you can buy that bike for a little over $8,000.00. I don't care what anyone says...That's a real bargain.
Aaron Moon I am currently working on buying a new left over 2018 for $8k our the door tax, license, destination, charge all included! Dude said when this corona was over bring my half down and he didn’t give a shit if I had credit or not he said his dealer would finance it for that much down! But my credit is ok I should be able to just go drop off my down payment and pick it up! I know they want rid of the old ones so they ain’t gotta pay the taxes on them again this year! Plus money and jobs have went away so not many running around with credit and $5k to put down so I bet they will be all over it needing the business! Corona gonna help me get far more bike then I would have a year ago. I’m also looking at MT09 and MT10 I’m a big guy 6’3” 250lbs so I need a big heavy bike I feel more stable on heavier bikes I felt like my R6 wanted to leave without me it was smaller then me felt like to light to hard to handle for me! It wasn’t the speed or power it was the chassis it was just to small for me I should have never bought that bike but I got an amazing deal and hated to pass it up and I actually made $5k on the bike so I did good there.
Interesting to see the Triumph still impressing with relatively minor updates. Although this was a strange comparison, and not really the bikes I'd be comparing if I was looking to buy a new naked. The Aprilia (especially the Factory version) should be more stacked up against the S1000R and Super Duke, with the Ducati really only in that group due to price. The Japanese bikes and the Speed Triple make for a good comparison, although glaringingly incomplete without the MT-10/FZ-10. It'd be great to see whether the MT-10 can bridge the gap between those groups as well.
For my money I chose the speed triple S. I've ridden the duke, tuono, and S1000r and the Triumph is just next level refined compared to the rest. I can chill and cruise or I can open it up and it'll make your vision blur just like the Tuono. After riding for 18 years I've found out that there's much more to a bike than peak horsepower.
When I went shopping this past fall, I had tried the GSX-S, the Monster 1200, the Speed Triple and the Tuono 1100 Factory. They were all very nice motorcycles, and I had the least time on the Triumph. It was my second choice, behind the Tuono. I ended up buying the Tuono 1100RR which is basically the Factory with Sachs instead of Ohlins, and given my own skill and that I do not ride on a track, the savings were both worthwhile and practical. Others may have different use cases. I did not get a lot of kms on before winter arrived, but I have no regrets and love it more each ride.
Thanksgiving day and I had some time I pulled this test up from four years ago and I believe the results would probably be the same today although there are better electronics but it was very interesting to watch and I can’t help but agree with everything that was said so You guys didn’t miss a beat and I love watching the older tests tests
From our shootout article you should all read if you really want to find out all about this test: "Our intention with this shootout was to compare only the naked-sport class (not the hyper nakeds like the S1000R and Super Duke, which we have used in comparison tests many times over), with the non-S Ducati Monster ($13,995) and a Yamaha, either the FZ-10 or the XSR900. However, Ducati’s press fleet didn’t have a base Monster, so we had to settle for the upmarket 1200S ($16,395), and Yamaha couldn’t provide us with either of its nakeds in time for our trip. With six riders ready to roll and only five bikes, we needed another steed. Aprilia graciously offered up a Tuono Factory, and although it resides in a higher echelon of performance than what we intended in this comparison, we will never turn down a chance to ride the intoxicating V-4 super fighter." Hope that helps explain how this came together.
It maybe explains the situation, but the shootout still seems "unfinished", for lack of better word. And still, one hyper naked did sneak in, and that made shootout bit confusing. Nevertheless, thanks for the effort. Always enjoying video discussions on powerful nakeds :)
Yes, but why the Aprilia then - your rationale for including it doesn't suffice (oh its fun to ride, whee so we will break our rules and include) and same for the Monster 1200S. You should have excluded them both per your stated rationale not to include Super-Nakeds. Or perhaps because the KTM and S1000R would wipe the floor with all of these bikes with the exception of the Aprilia.
Night Rider Ohlins suspensions, forged aluminum wheels, Brembo brakes M432, Traction Control, AWC (Aprilia Wheelie Control), ALC (Aprilia Launch Control), AQS (Aprilia Quick Shift), Race ABS system, adjustable to three levels. The "rightly" priced Honda CB1000R here has not even the ABS or Traction control.
Came here looking for objective views of the previous model cb1000r with regards other options as I'm currently considering buying one. Found a bunch of dudes riding around with a manufactured pillion passenger on a cb1000r, complaining that the CB was overweighted and probably would do better except the Suzuki, with nothing on it and a blown out tyre was amazing. Thanks for the insight, guys. Aprilia objectively the best, despite not being able to pack it with any extra middle-aged dude hairline products or incontinence pants due to the exhaust positioning. Got it.
Great video! Nobody comes close to you guys in content. Why wasn't the Grom in the shoot out?! This was an outstanding review but I guess if you don't include everything with two wheels.... Keep doing what you do, I love it!
I own a Z1000. While all the bikes are great I've found that when you buy a naked supersport you arent looking for a higher revving powerplant. For everyday riding and the performance the z1000 offers. I'll take that all day vs a bike that you need to get to higher revs for the power to come on. Along with the suspension the power is always there whenever you need it in a z1000. If you question is go get on one. Come to a stop. Throw it in 3rd and it will get up and go just fine. Best all around for your buck. PLUS....they are rare. I've never seen anyone on one in my area except for me. Plus for a larger rider (im 280 lbs) It doesnt have any problem getting up and going vs others wehre you need to get its RPM's up to access the power.
Would be cool if you included a joker, like the Triumph Thruxton R just to see how it would compare to "normal" naked bikes. :P Otherwise I like this test, when you are debating like this the atmosphere feels like if you would sit down with your friends and talk about the bikes you have.
i am 6'2 and found the tuono handlebars a bit too low for a street bike and a bit of a stretch. sat on the new gxs1000 and it felt really comfy also as soon as the front tire was light i had some bad shake in the bars so perhaps a steering dampener is required, i rode a used 1000cc tuono and loved it, could it be they shortened the wheelbase a touch with the update? i also tested the s1000r and found it so easy to ride, like you sat deeper in the cockpit and it was effortless where as the tuono needed a little more input, i did have a budget though and ended up with the new 2016 brutale 800, it feels so roomy for a taller rider and at crawling speeds the fuelling is brilliant so easy with the clutch and balanced and boy does it have some character. and a awesome spread of power everywhere. absolutely loving it!! i am not hating on the tuono as id love that power over the brutale, and the sound rocks but the paint job sucks its like one big ass billboard A P R I L I A, and the styling is basically a rsv4 without side panels. at least with the new fz/mt 10 they havent played it safe with the front end of the bike design wise and it looks wicked
Why does everyone seem to feel like every test needs to have every bike? There are too many bikes in the category to compare ALL of them in EVERY test.
Honda doesn't update theirs... it's the weakest and heaviest of the group while lacking any kind of electronic aid.. Z1000 just got discontinued.. even looking for a budget bike... I wouldn't have put the CB1000R in this list..
just got GSX s1000 lovin it. my triumph 1200 tiger lost 2nd gear 3 weeks in the shop and they can't figure out whats wrong. waiting for feedback from triumph, I think I'm done with them.
I tested the aprilla today, I hated it. Lots of noise from the engine and not the wonderful double Akro exhausts that were fitted. Tonnes of vibration, I simply couldn't wait to get off it. There are better riding and smoother bikes in this group, that won't cost you a fortune!
the numbers on the cb1000r lie. If you try one you will start doubting some reviews. The aprilia... once you try it you are fan and will never take it off the back of your mind. cool content.
For me; Looks: Triumph( You either love it or hate it ) > Ducati > Tuono > next highest torque bike > the rest Overall Performance: Tuono( no surprise here ) > Triumph( this place would probably go to ducati subjectively ) > Ducati > next highest torque bike > the rest( as in; don't care ) Price( What I'd actually be willing to buy; not necessarily affordability ): Triumph > Ducati( I actually want the 1200R if I can't have the Speed Triple 1050 ) > Tuono > next highest torque bike > everything else( as in; don't care ) Riding comfort: Triumph > Ducati > Everything else( Never ridden a Tuono so i can't really place it ) Bikes I would like to buy in the order I want them, most to least Speed Triple 1050 > Super Duke 1290 R > Monster 1200 R > FZ-10 > FZ-09 > Street Triple 765 > FZ-07
Could you guys do a starter bike shootout with the likes of BMW G310R, KTM Duke 390, KTM RC 390, and many more? I think it'd sure as hell get you the views.
The Aprilia Factory really does not belong in this comparison. It should be in the Hyper Naked comparison. All the other naked bikes hear are the base or mid range models while the Aprilia Factory is the equivalent of an R model or top of the line in the naked range. Of course the Aprilia ran away with the comparison. That said and having ridden all 3 of the top three bikes- The Base Tuono, the Speed Triple, and the Ducati Monster, I would still take the Aprilia because the V4 engine is in a league of its own. The handling is so close between the three it really comes down to preference on which bike feels most comfortable to you. For me, the base Aprilia would still be my pick.
This was probably recorded months ago but like all the other comments mentioned below, missing out the KTM Superduke, BMW S1000R, and the new Yamaha MT10 is a huge let down. Since they are, arguably, the top contenders amongst the 1000cc(-ish) nakeds.
While I do appreciate the shoot out, and for the most part I agree with the choices... I really think you should have said "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Touno in this test. It would be like taking a Mustang, Camaro, charger, and a Ferrari and testing them together. Also, as noted by one of the riders... the standard Touno would have been the better test. (But I did like hearing about it) I think you should post up the results, removing the expensive "Super Bike" from the mix. FYI... I've seen a few leftover GSX-S1000's around for well under $10k How can you pass that up? Drop $1000~$1500 into the suspension, and brakes, and you will have a bike that is 95% of the Touno Factory, and have $5k in your pocket still. Just my 2 cents.
i would like to see a shootout about the best naked bike on the road (not on track) between mt-10, superduke, tuono 1100, monster 1200, s1000r, speed triple, z1000.
The problem with the Speed Triple is if you're not getting a carefully prepped press bike, you've got a fantastic chance of getting some piece of shit with major failing assemblies right out of the showroom. Battery? Dead. Rectifier? Dead. Shock? Not fucking assembled correctly. Nope, I had a Street Triple R, and Triumph can fuck right off.
Thank you for the great video! My favorite types of bikes are sports nakeds (middleweight, or liters), supermotos and sportbikes. It shouldn't come as a surprise I enjoyed this video a lot. Thank you for bringing the Honda, we rarely see that bike on comparisons. With that said, I still think you missed some of the bikes from this group: BMW S1000R, KTM Super Duke, MV Agusta Brutale 1090 RR and most surprisingly, you didn't bring the FZ-10 to the shootout. That's too bad. But nevertheless, awesome video! Thanks!
I have a 2016 Z1000 with a couple upgrades, full Akro carbon fiber exhaust and headers, eco refresh. I love this bike, scary fast and I'm 6'1" 215ibs. For the money it can't be beat. Doesn't have all the electronic traction control shit on it. I feel all that stuff makes you over confident , doesn't advance your riding skills. Just an opinion.
not trolling..but how can you put the Honda against the Aprilla. ..its a different league and the triple they have is old..there is a 2016 model out with a bunch of changes to it..
Hey guys, I am in the market on buying my first bike. I'm between a Monster 797, 821 or a Triumph street twin. looking for something that can do a bit of everything. I haven't ride either of them. what would you suggest?
there is something that you didn't get. every motorcycle has to be set up for a specific rider weight. that's why different persons had different thoughts about the same bikes.
Either take off the aprilia or and the fz10, s1000r and the superduke. You if you choose to put the these six together you might as well add the other three.
This video is legendary to me. I saw it when I started riding, and it impacted me deeply: the riding, the filming, the discussions, the roads, the bikes… I come back to watch it over the years
Bmw S1000R, Ktm Superduke, Yamaha MT10. Pointless comparison without these.
MUNROmusic big money difference. You could buy the Suzuki and the Kawasaki for what the BMW and kTM cost! Almost anyways they are a lot more money so they should be far better!
Tammy Forbes and the aprilia isn't ?
I have a Touno Factory in my garage, after 40 + years of riding it's hands down the best motorcycle I've ever ridden. 👍👍
Me too. Love it.
Me four! I love my Tuono RF!!
I want one so badly!! I've got a Tuono 1000R which I still absolutely love though
i think the 1000R looks hideous, i wouldn't ride it even if its free, how does it ride though?
Tony Tng have a 1000r it handles great turns in fast holds a line, been riding for 8 yrs now and the bike is a lot better than me. mid range torque and sound is ridiculous
I am PROFOUNDLY not interested in this class of motorcycle, but I keep coming back to this video because it's simply the best-made shootout video on the internet.
Me too!
I don't care which bike . I just wanna ride that road with that scenery with a bunch of mates !
Yep and put a blanket down and make love with them lmao
James Avery hahahahaaha
I really dig this long-form discussion style of shootout... much better than "we caned a dozen liter bikes around a track and they're all unsurprisingly good at it."
Where's the super duke?
No KTM Super Duke or BMW S1000R?? Still love the Aprilia Tuono.
I know I’m a little disappointed that the mt-10 wasn’t a part of this
im still love the GSX-S series that's a amazing machine and controler
I'd go to the Suzuki. As great as others for less.
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Really enjoyed this video guys thanks. The naked market is far bigger now than the superbike market so these reviews are becoming more valuable. There's plenty of comments about other bikes that could have been included, but I imagine it depends what bikes you can get hold of. I have to agree with some of the guys though, it seems a bit of a mixed bag of reviews really and some bikes don't match up. For a start the monster doesn't belong in this group. If a ducati was to be included, it should be the streetfighter, either the 848 or 1098. They provide direct competition for the Aprilia. MV have made loads of effort producing the 800 dragster as they are struggling financially and it would have been nice to have seen it in this group as it certainly deserves to be and with 3 cylinders would have been a good competitor to the triumph. That said, even if the bikes don't match up, it still good to hear of any bike being subjectively assessed as you guys do. Thanks again
The Suzuki has a $1,000.00 incentive right now.If the dealer moves on his price too,you can buy that bike for a little over $8,000.00. I don't care what anyone says...That's a real bargain.
Aaron Moon I am currently working on buying a new left over 2018 for $8k our the door tax, license, destination, charge all included! Dude said when this corona was over bring my half down and he didn’t give a shit if I had credit or not he said his dealer would finance it for that much down! But my credit is ok I should be able to just go drop off my down payment and pick it up! I know they want rid of the old ones so they ain’t gotta pay the taxes on them again this year! Plus money and jobs have went away so not many running around with credit and $5k to put down so I bet they will be all over it needing the business! Corona gonna help me get far more bike then I would have a year ago. I’m also looking at MT09 and MT10 I’m a big guy 6’3” 250lbs so I need a big heavy bike I feel more stable on heavier bikes I felt like my R6 wanted to leave without me it was smaller then me felt like to light to hard to handle for me! It wasn’t the speed or power it was the chassis it was just to small for me I should have never bought that bike but I got an amazing deal and hated to pass it up and I actually made $5k on the bike so I did good there.
For the price and performance the Suzuki was a no brainer for me.. it's a joy to ride.
Nice shootout.. just leave out 3 of the best bikes in the category.
I'd pick the Honda. I would bet it is the best built & will out live all the others by at least 3x.
Interesting to see the Triumph still impressing with relatively minor updates. Although this was a strange comparison, and not really the bikes I'd be comparing if I was looking to buy a new naked. The Aprilia (especially the Factory version) should be more stacked up against the S1000R and Super Duke, with the Ducati really only in that group due to price. The Japanese bikes and the Speed Triple make for a good comparison, although glaringingly incomplete without the MT-10/FZ-10. It'd be great to see whether the MT-10 can bridge the gap between those groups as well.
For my money I chose the speed triple S. I've ridden the duke, tuono, and S1000r and the Triumph is just next level refined compared to the rest. I can chill and cruise or I can open it up and it'll make your vision blur just like the Tuono. After riding for 18 years I've found out that there's much more to a bike than peak horsepower.
When I went shopping this past fall, I had tried the GSX-S, the Monster 1200, the Speed Triple and the Tuono 1100 Factory. They were all very nice motorcycles, and I had the least time on the Triumph. It was my second choice, behind the Tuono. I ended up buying the Tuono 1100RR which is basically the Factory with Sachs instead of Ohlins, and given my own skill and that I do not ride on a track, the savings were both worthwhile and practical. Others may have different use cases. I did not get a lot of kms on before winter arrived, but I have no regrets and love it more each ride.
Thanksgiving day and I had some time I pulled this test up from four years ago and I believe the results would probably be the same today although there are better electronics but it was very interesting to watch and I can’t help but agree with everything that was said so You guys didn’t miss a beat and I love watching the older tests tests
The Z1000 looks incredible. You can’t go wrong with any of these bikes, really. They are all great. Just pick whichever you desire.
Aprilia is killing it. Guess that's why I love my 07 Factory so much. BTW, good video guys.
Yamaha MT-10 -> NO
KTM Super Duke 1290r -> No
BMW S1000r -> No
I think those are in a different class. Maybe super-nakeds.
but the Aprilia belongs to the class too.
From our shootout article you should all read if you really want to find out all about this test: "Our intention with this shootout was to compare only the naked-sport class (not the hyper nakeds like the S1000R and Super Duke, which we have used in comparison tests many times over), with the non-S Ducati Monster ($13,995) and a Yamaha, either the FZ-10 or the XSR900. However, Ducati’s press fleet didn’t have a base Monster, so we had to settle for the upmarket 1200S ($16,395), and Yamaha couldn’t provide us with either of its nakeds in time for our trip. With six riders ready to roll and only five bikes, we needed another steed. Aprilia graciously offered up a Tuono Factory, and although it resides in a higher echelon of performance than what we intended in this comparison, we will never turn down a chance to ride the intoxicating V-4 super fighter." Hope that helps explain how this came together.
It maybe explains the situation, but the shootout still seems "unfinished", for lack of better word. And still, one hyper naked did sneak in, and that made shootout bit confusing. Nevertheless, thanks for the effort. Always enjoying video discussions on powerful nakeds :)
Yes, but why the Aprilia then - your rationale for including it doesn't suffice (oh its fun to ride, whee so we will break our rules and include) and same for the Monster 1200S. You should have excluded them both per your stated rationale not to include Super-Nakeds. Or perhaps because the KTM and S1000R would wipe the floor with all of these bikes with the exception of the Aprilia.
great review and the lack of super duke and s1000r is there ,but all new suzuki and triumph covered that :)
The GSX-S1000 easily the most underrated of all nakeds in this class.
I love how it's a naked bike shootout, and the first bike introduced has a full fairing.
Great video! Very informative!
For the price of the Aprilia you can literally buy two bikes.The suzuki naked and a slightly used supersport!
The components of the Tuono RF are the best on the market.
+67claudius Id rather buy two good bikes than one overpriced bike!
Night Rider Ok, but the Tuono Factory is not overpriced, the high-quality stuff costs.
+67claudius L Whats high quality?
Night Rider Ohlins suspensions, forged aluminum wheels, Brembo brakes M432, Traction Control, AWC (Aprilia Wheelie Control), ALC (Aprilia Launch Control), AQS (Aprilia Quick Shift), Race ABS system, adjustable to three levels. The "rightly" priced Honda CB1000R here has not even the ABS or Traction control.
Japanese m/c any day, any where ,reliable refined..
in 1972 maybe
Immediate thumbs for missing the two best bikes in the class.
Came here looking for objective views of the previous model cb1000r with regards other options as I'm currently considering buying one. Found a bunch of dudes riding around with a manufactured pillion passenger on a cb1000r, complaining that the CB was overweighted and probably would do better except the Suzuki, with nothing on it and a blown out tyre was amazing. Thanks for the insight, guys. Aprilia objectively the best, despite not being able to pack it with any extra middle-aged dude hairline products or incontinence pants due to the exhaust positioning. Got it.
If I hadn't bought a Multistrada for long trips (just did 3000 miles to Colorado and back), I'd want that Tuono for sure. The V4 sounds amazing.
No surprise the most expensive bike won. One day I'll get my hands on a Tuono, But for now I'm more than happy with my GSX S1000.
pretty awesome job these guys have. enjoy it for the rest of us! beautiful bikes, beautiful roads, and some average dudes.
Monster is my favorite. What a freaking gem. I just love the styling and a vtwin is great for commuting
I still love this video!
Great review, I chose the 750 . It's super cheap fun.
Great show ! enjoy the show on the shootout, now can perform a shootout on the following bikes Yamaha xsr900, Ducati 821, kanZ800, and the GSRX 750
what about 1290r and bmw 1000s are they not in this category.
No super duke or S1000R, which imo, is hands down the best bang for the buck and possibly the most versatile and best performing super naked.
Awesome video. 💝 I have Z1000 ABS 2016 in Vietnam. Thanks for your video. I hope the next video have MT10 and Superduke and S1000r. Thanks
Zik Nguyen I was wondering if anyone can comment on cold weather riding. Which one is best for highway colder riding?
Great video! Nobody comes close to you guys in content. Why wasn't the Grom in the shoot out?! This was an outstanding review but I guess if you don't include everything with two wheels.... Keep doing what you do, I love it!
Great video guys
Z1000!!! I love my 2012 model...LOVE it.
Love mine too. I have a 2016 Z1000
Gas tank size is it’s only flaw
10.5 for the Suzuki? Over here in Germany it's around 13k€, which is around 14.6k US$.. Lucky you..
21000 US dollars in denmark for the GSXS1000, and the Tuono is 36000 US dollars, i love my country, but WTF.
I own a Z1000. While all the bikes are great I've found that when you buy a naked supersport you arent looking for a higher revving powerplant. For everyday riding and the performance the z1000 offers. I'll take that all day vs a bike that you need to get to higher revs for the power to come on. Along with the suspension the power is always there whenever you need it in a z1000.
If you question is go get on one. Come to a stop. Throw it in 3rd and it will get up and go just fine.
Best all around for your buck. PLUS....they are rare. I've never seen anyone on one in my area except for me. Plus for a larger rider (im 280 lbs) It doesnt have any problem getting up and going vs others wehre you need to get its RPM's up to access the power.
no yamaha fz10- MT10 no S1000R ???? or maybe when the video was film it wasn't available
Fz10 probably wasnt available, but strange to see s1kr not there
Yep, the FZ-10 isn't yet available for us in the USA.
+Kevin Duke ive seen an fz10 sitting on dispkay at a dealership in socal and the sales rep told me 8/9 were already sold
No you can buy it right now. It has been here for a while. They could have gotten the fz 09 at least.
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I was hopi g for FZ-10 :(
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No fz10, no s1000r, no KTM SuperDuke, no MV Brutale 1090rr... GTFO.
Yea pretty bad in my opinion.
Me too. Especially because I've got an FZ6-R and I'm thinking about an upgrade. Too bad the FZ-10 isn't ther. =/
Because if anyone buys a Brutale they get the 800 Dragter.
awesome CB1000R... You should try the ABS one..
just bought me one.. :)
Me too thomas
Would be cool if you included a joker, like the Triumph Thruxton R just to see how it would compare to "normal" naked bikes. :P Otherwise I like this test, when you are debating like this the atmosphere feels like if you would sit down with your friends and talk about the bikes you have.
Thank you gents! I'm really glad you like Aprilia.
seriously no s1000r
Great video, I really enjoyed it.
gsx-S1000👍
value for money
i am 6'2 and found the tuono handlebars a bit too low for a street bike and a bit of a stretch. sat on the new gxs1000 and it felt really comfy also as soon as the front tire was light i had some bad shake in the bars so perhaps a steering dampener is required, i rode a used 1000cc tuono and loved it, could it be they shortened the wheelbase a touch with the update? i also tested the s1000r and found it so easy to ride, like you sat deeper in the cockpit and it was effortless where as the tuono needed a little more input, i did have a budget though and ended up with the new 2016 brutale 800, it feels so roomy for a taller rider and at crawling speeds the fuelling is brilliant so easy with the clutch and balanced and boy does it have some character. and a awesome spread of power everywhere. absolutely loving it!! i am not hating on the tuono as id love that power over the brutale, and the sound rocks but the paint job sucks its like one big ass billboard A P R I L I A, and the styling is basically a rsv4 without side panels. at least with the new fz/mt 10 they havent played it safe with the front end of the bike design wise and it looks wicked
great vid, love the mostly discussion. Thanks guys, you do, and you have, a great job. :)
Why does everyone seem to feel like every test needs to have every bike? There are too many bikes in the category to compare ALL of them in EVERY test.
Agreed, I for one liked seeing the Honda here, it's always Beemer, Duke and Aprilia everywhere!
Honda doesn't update theirs... it's the weakest and heaviest of the group while lacking any kind of electronic aid.. Z1000 just got discontinued.. even looking for a budget bike... I wouldn't have put the CB1000R in this list..
Because the Suzuki, Honda, and Kawasaki don't even really fit in anymore. They are so outdated compared to the rest.
man, love y'all videos. thanks for great reviews and showing us your camaraderie! -13 year rider (04 Shadow Aero, 12 V Strom 650 & '15 XT250)
just got GSX s1000 lovin it. my triumph 1200 tiger lost 2nd gear 3 weeks in the shop and they can't figure out whats wrong. waiting for feedback from triumph, I think I'm done with them.
I tested the aprilla today, I hated it. Lots of noise from the engine and not the wonderful double Akro exhausts that were fitted. Tonnes of vibration, I simply couldn't wait to get off it. There are better riding and smoother bikes in this group, that won't cost you a fortune!
the numbers on the cb1000r lie. If you try one you will start doubting some reviews. The aprilia... once you try it you are fan and will never take it off the back of your mind. cool content.
how would you compare the mv agusta brutale 800 RR against these motorcycles???
This should have been Tuono vs MT-10 vs S1000R vs Superduke vs Speed Triple R....none of the rest are in the same league. Sigh
For me;
Looks: Triumph( You either love it or hate it ) > Ducati > Tuono > next highest torque bike > the rest
Overall Performance: Tuono( no surprise here ) > Triumph( this place would probably go to ducati subjectively ) > Ducati > next highest torque bike > the rest( as in; don't care )
Price( What I'd actually be willing to buy; not necessarily affordability ): Triumph > Ducati( I actually want the 1200R if I can't have the Speed Triple 1050 ) > Tuono > next highest torque bike > everything else( as in; don't care )
Riding comfort: Triumph > Ducati > Everything else( Never ridden a Tuono so i can't really place it )
Bikes I would like to buy in the order I want them, most to least
Speed Triple 1050 > Super Duke 1290 R > Monster 1200 R > FZ-10 > FZ-09 > Street Triple 765 > FZ-07
Could you guys do a starter bike shootout with the likes of BMW G310R, KTM Duke 390, KTM RC 390, and many more? I think it'd sure as hell get you the views.
The Aprilia Factory really does not belong in this comparison. It should be in the Hyper Naked comparison. All the other naked bikes hear are the base or mid range models while the Aprilia Factory is the equivalent of an R model or top of the line in the naked range. Of course the Aprilia ran away with the comparison. That said and having ridden all 3 of the top three bikes- The Base Tuono, the Speed Triple, and the Ducati Monster, I would still take the Aprilia because the V4 engine is in a league of its own. The handling is so close between the three it really comes down to preference on which bike feels most comfortable to you. For me, the base Aprilia would still be my pick.
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I think this comparison could have been a lot better if you guys had communicators so you could communicate while giving your feelings and opinions
This was probably recorded months ago but like all the other comments mentioned below, missing out the KTM Superduke, BMW S1000R, and the new Yamaha MT10 is a huge let down. Since they are, arguably, the top contenders amongst the 1000cc(-ish) nakeds.
Which super naked takes a pillion best?
Yeah, should put the Yamaha FZ10 (MT10 Europe), KTM Superduke 1290R and BMW S1000R.... That makes 9 SuperNakeds....Ultimate challenge.
While I do appreciate the shoot out, and for the most part I agree with the choices... I really think you should have said "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Touno in this test. It would be like taking a Mustang, Camaro, charger, and a Ferrari and testing them together. Also, as noted by one of the riders... the standard Touno would have been the better test. (But I did like hearing about it) I think you should post up the results, removing the expensive "Super Bike" from the mix. FYI... I've seen a few leftover GSX-S1000's around for well under $10k How can you pass that up? Drop $1000~$1500 into the suspension, and brakes, and you will have a bike that is 95% of the Touno Factory, and have $5k in your pocket still. Just my 2 cents.
The aprilia and kawi just scream pure power
Sorry Evans, for not paying attention to you in the intro.
Left out all the best bikes
i would like to see a shootout about the best naked bike on the road (not on track) between mt-10, superduke, tuono 1100, monster 1200, s1000r, speed triple, z1000.
I also want to wheelie while exiting a corner.
But i own a 150cc but i love it.
R15V3 it is.
So which one is it..The Djucachi or the twyumph or Aprullya or shushuki or kawachaki
You have to love the Aprilia! :)
The problem with the Speed Triple is if you're not getting a carefully prepped press bike, you've got a fantastic chance of getting some piece of shit with major failing assemblies right out of the showroom.
Battery? Dead. Rectifier? Dead. Shock? Not fucking assembled correctly.
Nope, I had a Street Triple R, and Triumph can fuck right off.
No superduke? Or s1000r or ebr 1190?
'Guess who packed the CB?" lololol
BMW S1000R FOR THE WIN!
Why the Superduke isn't amongst the bikes?
Where is FZ-10? lol...
FZ-10 would have taken all of these...
Not available yet.
+Sean Alexander I live in NY I seen them on the streets already.
+Kaha K they mentioned in the video that they couldn't get it.
but they got it before for the review on its own. makes no sense!
FZ-10? FZ-09???? Surely you could find one to test?
Aprilia Tuono all day baby!
no. cb1000 :D love your videos btw
What about the V-max? I know it's a power cruzer with a shaft drive, but ride one and you'll be impressed! Kawasaki WTF Z1000,bring back the ZRX 1200.
I agree with you on the vmax thing its just a beast of a bike which sounds really really good
Thank you for the great video! My favorite types of bikes are sports nakeds (middleweight, or liters), supermotos and sportbikes. It shouldn't come as a surprise I enjoyed this video a lot. Thank you for bringing the Honda, we rarely see that bike on comparisons. With that said, I still think you missed some of the bikes from this group: BMW S1000R, KTM Super Duke, MV Agusta Brutale 1090 RR and most surprisingly, you didn't bring the FZ-10 to the shootout. That's too bad. But nevertheless, awesome video! Thanks!
See my post above for why all the bikes you mentioned weren't included in this test.
It would be nice to see the mv agusta brutale rr added to this mix...the dragster rr even better...
under inflated tires can also be an issue, if you don't see rubber bits under the rear then it's most likely an under inflated+hot day issue
I have a 2016 Z1000 with a couple upgrades, full Akro carbon fiber exhaust and headers, eco refresh. I love this bike, scary fast and I'm 6'1" 215ibs. For the money it can't be beat. Doesn't have all the electronic traction control shit on it. I feel all that stuff makes you over confident , doesn't advance your riding skills. Just an opinion.
Aprilia....FTW!!!!! On my second Tuono and never looking back.
Ducati Drew BUT... it's not a naked bike
i think you're confusing street fighter and naked
where's the Yamaha FZ (MT) 10 and bmw 1000 R?
not trolling..but how can you put the Honda against the Aprilla. ..its a different league and the triple they have is old..there is a 2016 model out with a bunch of changes to it..
its all just white noise as soon as that Tuono fires up. I'd pick it everyday and twice on Sunday, game over. And thats coming from an S1000r owner.
Hey guys, I am in the market on buying my first bike. I'm between a Monster 797, 821 or a Triumph street twin. looking for something that can do a bit of everything. I haven't ride either of them. what would you suggest?
there is something that you didn't get. every motorcycle has to be set up for a specific rider weight. that's why different persons had different thoughts about the same bikes.
Either take off the aprilia or and the fz10, s1000r and the superduke. You if you choose to put the these six together you might as well add the other three.
great vids! thx
Surprising the S1000R and FZ10 aren't included.
Or the super duke. I guess they wanted a level playing field.
no yamaha ... how is this shootout complete ???