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Sis just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?... it is a part of our iman to believe that Muhammad SAW is the last of prophets and any belief that defies this no matter how.much love it claims towards him, takes the believer outside of the fold of islam....lets us not be shia or Sunni...let us unite on truth as one ummah
Qibla but according to Mola Ali a.s in Nahj ul Balagha "the contact between the sky and earth has been disconnected and no revelations will come forth after you death O Rasool Allah s.a.w". How can musaf e Fatima s.a be revealed then?
These nasibis call us kafir when it's mentioned in their books that , When Hazrat Ayesha Passed a fitwa that you can make a Non mehram Men , MEHRAM by drinking milk and the people asked where did you learn this fitwa from, she said that , this was mentioned in one of the scriptures of the holy Quran and when I was not there, a GOAT came and ate the Scripture. 🤦♂️🤦♂️. And then they call us kafir saying our quran is different
@@Saad0852 go and Read the Nature of the RIZA'AT KABEER hadees in SAHIH IBN E ABI DAWOOD. CHAPTER (NIKAH AND TALAQ). It is written whether it is SAHIH or Weak
@@laughAFrame in sunan abi dawood, the incident of verses eaten by goat is not mentioned. only riza'at e kabeer is mentioned. goat incident is mentioned in ibn e majah and that narration is week
@@Saad0852 I said SAHIH Sunnan e Ibn e abi Dawood, not Sunnan e Abi Dawood. The Nature of Riza'at kabeer riwayat is written in SAHIH SUNNAN E ABI DAWOOD, and the Nature of QURAN EATEN BY GOAT is written in SAHIH IBN E MAJAH. Where the writter has written the sharah of Sunnan E Abi Dawood, and Ibn e Majah. Let's say the story of GOAT Eating is weak. Then By which Law or Sharyat did Ayesha give the FITWA of Riza'at kabeer? The riwayat says that the Ayat of Riza'at kabeer was in QURAN. let's say that Quran was not eaten by Goat, then where is the Ayat Of Riza'at kabeer in quran??
Al-Qur'an Al-Kareem O Prophet ﷺ, do not move your tongue to remember this revelation hastily - It is our responsibility to remind and compile it - Therefore, when we are reciting it, listen carefully to its recitation. Then it is our responsibility to explain its meaning - Surah Al-Qiymah-16-17-18-19
@ 57:26 And We have already sent Noah and Abraham and placed in their descendants prophethood and scripture; and among them is he who is guided, but many of them are defiantly disobedient.
Fellow muslim please just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?...
So after Rasul(SAW) passed, Angel Jibril(AS) continued with revelations as you claim via Mushaf Fatimah, isn't that essentially claiming it is another Quran because anything Jibril says is essentially from Allah as a revelation so this makes no sense
Anything which Jibrael says is definitely from Allah but is not necessarily Quran. A prime example is Jibrael's conversation with Lady Maryam and Hadith al-Qudsi. Also, it is not something we claim. It is something claimed by the Imams of Ahlulbayt (Prophet's progeny) who are required to be followed after the Prophet.
@@SalmanAhmedoIbrahimthe problem with you is that you can’t see the truth but only attack. We Muslims who strictly follow the teachings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and his pure progeny through his family/descended. It is sad your salaah is incomplete without sending blessings on Prophet and his prophecy and still you say we are deviant. May Allah subhaanahu Ta’ala be the witness of what you wrote. May Allah guide you and all of us to the path of righteousness.
Fellow muslim brothet please just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?... it is a part of our iman to believe that Muhammad SAW is the last of prophets and any belief that defies this no matter how.much love it claims towards him, takes the believer outside of the fold of islam....lets us not be shia or Sunni...let us unite on truth as one ummah
القرآن الکریم اے نبیؐ ﷺ ؐ، اِس وحی کو جلدی جلدی یاد کرنے کے لیے اپنی زبان کو حرکت نہ دو- اِس کو یاد کرا دینا اور جمع کر دینا ہمارے ذمہ ہے- لہٰذا جب ہم اِسے پڑھ رہے ہوں تو اُس وقت تم اِس کی قراٴت کو غور سے سُنتے رہو- پھر اس کا مطلب سمجھا دینا بھی ہمارے ہی ذمّہ ہے- سورہٴ الۡقِيٰمَةِ-16-17-18-19
@@Thaqlain you didnt get my point. They say Jibreel brought revelations to Fatima after our prophet peace be upon him passed away. Fatima passed away 6 months later and her mushaf is huge!!!! Astaghfirallah, revelations came to prophets only, not to prophet’s daughter
@Thaqlain What utter nonsense. How can we verify its authenticity without a chain of transmission? The quran was transmitted both textually and orally. It is recited, not read. In order to verify the text and its recitation, you need to refer back to they way it was transmitted. Otherwise, it is nothing more than Chinese whispers. The real answer to my question is that the Shia do not have an authentic chain of transmission for the Qu’raan. And that is the reason for your utterly pathetic response.
@@Thaqlain who wrote it and where is the copy for reference? And what about the qira'aah? How was that preserved without a chain of transmission? You Raafidah are unbelievable. You actually believe there is no need for a chain of transmission that goes back to the prophet ﷺ? Do you not know how preservation and verification works?
Imam Ali compiled it. Prophet attested it. A student of Imam Ali (Abu al-Aswad ad-Du'ali) standardized the grammar. That's how divine texts whose preservation Allah has taken responsibility are preserved :)
Explain kamal al haydari narrating from your own shia narrations that the quran "actually consists of 17.000 verses" and therefore 1/3 of it is missing
Thanks for letting us know :) If you wish to learn about it from the teachings of Imam Ja'far Sadiq, this link will help: th-cam.com/video/uaZddGkYTX0/w-d-xo.html
The clear mislead here Jabroil a.s will not go down to earth after death of last Prophet. And here this "imam" says Jabroil a.s dictated book to Fatima r.a making her as nabiy where there is never been women nabiy. May Allah guide to the truth and blesses you with hidayah. Only Allah knows the knowledge of future.
What has surah Qadr got to do with the original comment? Stop misleading people... if you are truthful then answer directly to the questions in the original comment...how can Fatima recieve revelations when the Prophet was the last prophet ?
I am not a Shi'a but i do know that Shi'a doesn't consider Fatima (ra) as a prophet but as a mother figure of Ummah. The supposed conversation isn't about prophethood or Allah's commands.
Even the animals receive revelation according to the Quran. And according to the Quran the Rul al-Amin descends every year with the Amr of Allah. So it is better to seek guidance from the Quran before calling something as misguidance :) To learn more, watch these episodes of our latest series: th-cam.com/video/otnB7x5rJUU/w-d-xo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
@@Thaqlain so, according to your theology, we have Tawraat, Zaboor, Injeel, Quran and Mushaf Fatima as being divinely revealed books? The addition of the last book is obviously not from the deen taught by Rasool of Allah (SAW).
Shia false belief. how dare Gabriel come to other than the prophet peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. if Mos-haf Fatuma fortells about the future,whar role do the Quran play?. who wrote the Mos-haf Fatuma(RA)? was there Mos-haf Fatuma before the prophet passed away???
Fellow muslim please just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?. it is a part of our iman to believe that Muhammad SAW is the last of prophets and any belief that defies this no matter how.much love it claims towards him, takes the believer outside of the fold of islam....lets us not be shia or Sunni...let us unite on truth as one ummah
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What about the narration in al kafi saying the Qurʾan has 17 thousand verses?
Many such misconceptions people have about us. For eg- Shias worship Zuljana and they do Sujood of imam Hussain (as))
Sis just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?... it is a part of our iman to believe that Muhammad SAW is the last of prophets and any belief that defies this no matter how.much love it claims towards him, takes the believer outside of the fold of islam....lets us not be shia or Sunni...let us unite on truth as one ummah
@@calvin22 seems like you have not read Surah Qadr :)
Qibla but according to Mola Ali a.s in Nahj ul Balagha "the contact between the sky and earth has been disconnected and no revelations will come forth after you death O Rasool Allah s.a.w". How can musaf e Fatima s.a be revealed then?
The revelation is in regards to message from Allah for the humanity.
Absolutely Right Brother.. He is just Making Stories. Quran is the last revelation from God nothing Nothing will come down after Quran..
Thank you for sharing and enlightening us. May Allah bless you.
Duas 🌹
does the book still exists now if yes can you provide a source jazkallahu khayran
It is with the Imam of the time.
These nasibis call us kafir when it's mentioned in their books that , When Hazrat Ayesha
Passed a fitwa that you can make a Non mehram Men , MEHRAM by drinking milk and the people asked where did you learn this fitwa from, she said that , this was mentioned in one of the scriptures of the holy Quran and when I was not there, a GOAT came and ate the Scripture. 🤦♂️🤦♂️.
And then they call us kafir saying our quran is different
this is week riwayah according to sunni scholars
@@Saad0852 go and Read the Nature of the RIZA'AT KABEER hadees in SAHIH IBN E ABI DAWOOD. CHAPTER (NIKAH AND TALAQ). It is written whether it is SAHIH or Weak
@@laughAFrame in sunan abi dawood, the incident of verses eaten by goat is not mentioned. only riza'at e kabeer is mentioned. goat incident is mentioned in ibn e majah and that narration is week
@@Saad0852 I said SAHIH Sunnan e Ibn e abi Dawood, not Sunnan e Abi Dawood.
The Nature of Riza'at kabeer riwayat is written in SAHIH SUNNAN E ABI DAWOOD, and the Nature of QURAN EATEN BY GOAT is written in SAHIH IBN E MAJAH.
Where the writter has written the sharah of Sunnan E Abi Dawood, and Ibn e Majah.
Let's say the story of GOAT Eating is weak. Then By which Law or Sharyat did Ayesha give the FITWA of Riza'at kabeer? The riwayat says that the Ayat of Riza'at kabeer was in QURAN. let's say that Quran was not eaten by Goat, then where is the Ayat Of Riza'at kabeer in quran??
Al-Qur'an Al-Kareem
O Prophet ﷺ, do not move your tongue to remember this revelation hastily -
It is our responsibility to remind and compile it -
Therefore, when we are reciting it, listen carefully to its recitation.
Then it is our responsibility to explain its meaning -
Surah Al-Qiymah-16-17-18-19
أللّهم صلّي على محمد وآل محمد
If the Quran is our ultimate guide, where does it say that we have to follow ahlul-bayt?
Watch "The Real Shia Beliefs" for the answer. We have an entire chapter dedicated to answering this.
Surah Al-Hadid Allah Subhanu Wa Ta’Ala tells us that Prophethood is in one bloodline that descends from Noah and Ibrahim
@ What is the verse number?
@ 57:26 And We have already sent Noah and Abraham and placed in their descendants prophethood and scripture; and among them is he who is guided, but many of them are defiantly disobedient.
Very well explained JazakAllahKhair
Fellow muslim please just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?...
So after Rasul(SAW) passed, Angel Jibril(AS) continued with revelations as you claim via Mushaf Fatimah, isn't that essentially claiming it is another Quran because anything Jibril says is essentially from Allah as a revelation so this makes no sense
Anything which Jibrael says is definitely from Allah but is not necessarily Quran. A prime example is Jibrael's conversation with Lady Maryam and Hadith al-Qudsi. Also, it is not something we claim. It is something claimed by the Imams of Ahlulbayt (Prophet's progeny) who are required to be followed after the Prophet.
these are Rafidis and u can never persuade
@@SalmanAhmedoIbrahimthe problem with you is that you can’t see the truth but only attack. We Muslims who strictly follow the teachings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and his pure progeny through his family/descended. It is sad your salaah is incomplete without sending blessings on Prophet and his prophecy and still you say we are deviant. May Allah subhaanahu Ta’ala be the witness of what you wrote. May Allah guide you and all of us to the path of righteousness.
Jazzakallah Sayyid for arranging a very convincing clip. 🤲🤲🤲
Fellow muslim brothet please just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?... it is a part of our iman to believe that Muhammad SAW is the last of prophets and any belief that defies this no matter how.much love it claims towards him, takes the believer outside of the fold of islam....lets us not be shia or Sunni...let us unite on truth as one ummah
القرآن الکریم
اے نبیؐ ﷺ ؐ، اِس وحی کو جلدی جلدی یاد کرنے کے لیے اپنی زبان کو حرکت نہ دو-
اِس کو یاد کرا دینا اور جمع کر دینا ہمارے ذمہ ہے-
لہٰذا جب ہم اِسے پڑھ رہے ہوں تو اُس وقت تم اِس کی قراٴت کو غور سے سُنتے رہو-
پھر اس کا مطلب سمجھا دینا بھی ہمارے ہی ذمّہ ہے-
سورہٴ الۡقِيٰمَةِ-16-17-18-19
The Quran took 23 years to be revealed but Mushaf Fatima which is 3 times the size was revealed in 6 months?
Because Mushaf Fatima is not Quran :)
@@Thaqlain you didnt get my point. They say Jibreel brought revelations to Fatima after our prophet peace be upon him passed away. Fatima passed away 6 months later and her mushaf is huge!!!! Astaghfirallah, revelations came to prophets only, not to prophet’s daughter
What is the chain of transmission of the Qur’an from the shia?
The Quran does not require a chain -- the Prophet gave the holy book to his ummah before passing away.
@Thaqlain What utter nonsense. How can we verify its authenticity without a chain of transmission?
The quran was transmitted both textually and orally. It is recited, not read. In order to verify the text and its recitation, you need to refer back to they way it was transmitted. Otherwise, it is nothing more than Chinese whispers.
The real answer to my question is that the Shia do not have an authentic chain of transmission for the Qu’raan. And that is the reason for your utterly pathetic response.
When something gets written it does not require a chain anymore 🙂
@@Thaqlain who wrote it and where is the copy for reference? And what about the qira'aah? How was that preserved without a chain of transmission?
You Raafidah are unbelievable. You actually believe there is no need for a chain of transmission that goes back to the prophet ﷺ? Do you not know how preservation and verification works?
Imam Ali compiled it. Prophet attested it. A student of Imam Ali (Abu al-Aswad ad-Du'ali) standardized the grammar. That's how divine texts whose preservation Allah has taken responsibility are preserved :)
Paz e bençãos esteja com o Profeta Muhammad, sua família abençoada e seus companheiros 💙💙💙🙌
What wahabis have to say about anything is insignificant.
So are you saying Fatima is the only female Prophet? Do we have the book today? Is Mushaf Fatima mentioned in the Quran?
Will request to listen to it again. In case you wish to learn more about the Mus'haf, visit th-cam.com/video/uaZddGkYTX0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
There is a similarity between the worship of the shia and the jews.
There is also similarity of Salah and Jewish prayer. Does that make all Muslims as Jews?
Is now can we get mus haf fatima allayhi salam
It is not for you. It is for the Imams of Ahlulbayt :)
Release Free Pdf of Musaf E Fatima & Musaf E Ali , Because Imam Mahdi Most probably is cancelled
It is with the Imam and he will appear when Allah desires :)
@@Thaqlain I told you what allah decided. Imam Mehdi Is CANCELLED !!!!
Declare this to the muslims.
Thank you for informing this to us.
What about the narration in al kafi saying the Qurʾan has 17 thousand verses?
Since when is al-Kafi the ultimate truth?
@@Thaqlain
Is it a weak narration?
Anything that goes against the Quran is fabricated.
isn't this a form of prophecy though? if not why?
If taken as prophecy in religious context, yes.
How can you have the same as the sunnis and still cursed the companions?
If curse means la'an, it is the Quran which does it :)
I Like Shia Aqeeda. Saddened about attrocities against them by sunni & other dogmatic sects .
Learn aqeedatu Shia before pouring your ignorance.
@DabuoBagnabayi such as😅
@@professormuhammad8418knowing the unseen
Explain kamal al haydari narrating from your own shia narrations that the quran "actually consists of 17.000 verses" and therefore 1/3 of it is missing
Salaam Alaykum. We have covered this in detail in The Real Shia Beliefs. The link is below:
th-cam.com/play/PLOXzVYnjThor-aWveJ-CqmZXganwoRYEq.html
❤️🤲🏻
You are claiming she was receiving revelations.
Even you can receive revelations. Details here: th-cam.com/video/otnB7x5rJUU/w-d-xo.html
Glorificado seja Ala'. Sexta feira abençoada. Bençãos e paz para os irmãos da Palestina. Bençãos para os cutes. 🙏🏼💙🙌
There is no such thing as Mus-haf Fatima. It doesn't exist.
Thanks for letting us know :)
If you wish to learn about it from the teachings of Imam Ja'far Sadiq, this link will help: th-cam.com/video/uaZddGkYTX0/w-d-xo.html
The clear mislead here Jabroil a.s will not go down to earth after death of last Prophet. And here this "imam" says Jabroil a.s dictated book to Fatima r.a making her as nabiy where there is never been women nabiy. May Allah guide to the truth and blesses you with hidayah. Only Allah knows the knowledge of future.
Please refer to Surah Qadr 🙂
What has surah Qadr got to do with the original comment? Stop misleading people... if you are truthful then answer directly to the questions in the original comment...how can Fatima recieve revelations when the Prophet was the last prophet ?
@@calvin22@calvin22 Surah Qadr proves that angels still descend on the night of Qadr. Find out on whom do they descend :)
Jabrail has talked to Mary as and she is not a prophet, so r u going to deny Quran now?
I am not a Shi'a but i do know that Shi'a doesn't consider Fatima (ra) as a prophet but as a mother figure of Ummah. The supposed conversation isn't about prophethood or Allah's commands.
This is clear misguidance.
The information might be new for you, but that doesn't mean it is misguidance.
@@Thaqlain to say that there is another revelation revealed to someone after Rasool of Allah (SAW) from Jibreel (AS) is clear mosguidance.
Even the animals receive revelation according to the Quran. And according to the Quran the Rul al-Amin descends every year with the Amr of Allah. So it is better to seek guidance from the Quran before calling something as misguidance :)
To learn more, watch these episodes of our latest series:
th-cam.com/video/otnB7x5rJUU/w-d-xo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
@@Thaqlain so, according to your theology, we have Tawraat, Zaboor, Injeel, Quran and Mushaf Fatima as being divinely revealed books? The addition of the last book is obviously not from the deen taught by Rasool of Allah (SAW).
Did you watch the link we shared before writing this comment?
Very well explained so it's book of lies
Liar
An accusation of lie requires proof.
Liar!
Accusing someone of lying requires proof.
@Thaqlain the entire shia stuff came from Jewish
That too is an accusation with no evidence :)
Shia false belief.
how dare Gabriel come to other than the prophet
peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.
if Mos-haf Fatuma fortells about the future,whar role do the Quran play?.
who wrote the Mos-haf Fatuma(RA)?
was there Mos-haf Fatuma before the prophet passed away???
Have you not read Surah Maryam verse 17? When the angel appeared before her as a man?
Thank you ❤️🤲
Thank you ❤️🤲
Duas 🌹
Fellow muslim please just take a moment and think for urself the Prophet is the last of prophets which means after him there will be no revelations, Jibreel will no longer come down to speak to any human... then how can there be any mushaf fatima?.
it is a part of our iman to believe that Muhammad SAW is the last of prophets and any belief that defies this no matter how.much love it claims towards him, takes the believer outside of the fold of islam....lets us not be shia or Sunni...let us unite on truth as one ummah
@@calvin22 the unity of the Ummah is in following Hadith al-Thaqalayn :)