@@DreamsWithDragons imagine him gaining experience to remake an entire planet. Just giving credence to that one Silver Surfer quote. Hell, God of Stories?
Johnathan Majors is so amazing. The one consistent trait between the variants is ruthlessness. Victors stutter feels like a setup. The way he smirks before taking bids and the way he dismissed Ravonna shows glimpses of his true nature.
Also I don't think Victor may be a bad person. He didn't stutter that much when he was pleading with Sylvie & did want to just be his own person instead of what the others think he is.
They are all the same person… this is the he who remains variant who’s upbringing made him a more compassionate and brainy version… this is the one variant who should be HWR… Same worldview as thanos but better execution
Since Victor Timely is stuttering whenever he speaks or talks, he may very well be the Kang the Conqueror variant that we saw in Quantumania. I could be wrong tho hahah
Candles, at one point in history, were used to tell time. A young Victor Timely literally molding and shaping a way to harness time, was a brilliant character detail!
My theory based on what victor said about OB is that kang uses OB as kind of his memory card and also the meaning of his name being a symbol of the snake eating it’s own tail (ala a loop) show’s OBs significance to the arrival of kang. I think kang has let OB keep his memory so that he ALWAYS writes the tva manual and is the keeper of said manual who never interacts with anyone who can interrupt his purpose. And in turn eventually when the loom fails, and kangs presence is needed, that manual will somehow find its way into a new timeline where kang is born. Thus repeating the process over and over again.
I think there's going to be some sort of major time travel shenanigans regarding some sort of loop hence the name of the first episode. Minus being his name i think its going to be something major
The Throughput Multiplier is the prototype for Kang's multiversal engine core from Antman Quantumania. It has the same spherical shape and looks to function in the same way. As he says in the episode, his latest work is, "The key to understanding and manipulating time". Victor also has the multiversal engine renderings from Quantumania drawn inside of the TVA guidebook. Lastly, Victor's little "chair device" that he has Renslayer sit in with all of the gadgets and buttons on it is a nod to Kang's eventual Time Chair from the comics. So many little easter eggs in this episode.
I reckon Sylvie didn’t kill Victor because his pleading reminded her of herself and how she felt when she was pruned. She was pruned/punished for something she didn’t do (yet). She could change and be a good person if she was given a chance
This episode was fantastic!! Tom was as great as ever and Johnathan Majors was great. Loki is absolutely carrying the Disney + side of the MCU. Hope we look back after Kang Dynsaty/Secret Wars and give Tom Hiddleston his flowers for being the backbone of this era of the MCU. 🙏🏿💚
Theory Time: Renslayer said in this episode that she's the only one who can bring stability to the TVA. Yeah she said it in anger, but if correct, then it could be that it's her temporal aura that the loom needs, not He Who Remains or any variant of his. That would explain why she was placed in the TVA. She also mentioned being in the TVA for eons which adds context.
As a person who has went through speech Therapy for stuttering. The long pauses in Victor's speech is a tool taught to people who Stutter so they can give a speech with out the stutter. Just a thought on the speech pattern of Victor at the worlds faur.
I think the scene of young Victor shows he had an interest in timekeeping before receiving the T.V.A. manual. During this time period candles could be used as a type of clock. You could light the candle at sunrise and track the hours as it burns down throughout the day.
I loved the interaction between Sylvie and Victor. Sylvie is such an advocate for free-will, and when he mentions that he can make his own decisions, I think she understood that if she killed him she would be no better than the TVA.
@@JaySewani yeah he's definitely lying I could have agreed with him with the 1st 2 episodes cus the way those were paced had me pissed off how they just kept regoing over the story from season 1 but this episode was phenomenal it was paced perfectly it felt like it was longer than it was and I mean that in the most best way possible I was all expecting it to end before it got real good and it just kept getting better and better and better and then I realized damn that's the longest episode so far rightfully so
Ravonna introduces herself as Ravonna. But Victor calls her miss rensalyer later in the show. This shows that Victor Timely knows exactly what he is doing and is playing so as not to cause a suspicion.
I think Timely is He Who Remains. It’s his origin story. The end of HWR, is his origin. His end is his beginning and his beginning is his end(at the end of time). Like an Oroborus.
No HWR said in episode 6 of S1 he is a scientist from 31st century, Victor Timely is a variant who isn't evil and HWR trust him to take charge of the TVA
@@QuangMinh-kd1bn that's what I hope they explain. All Kangs are supposed to be from the 31st century, yet Victor Timely is a child in the 1860s..... maybe someone put him there??
12:33 It is definitely not Loki's jealousy of Thor this time. It's HIS way to distract himself and cope with his heartaches from the fact that everyone close to him is gone💔
When Sylvie wanted to kill Victor for what/who he would do/become in the future, it made parallels to how Harrow killed people due to the ideology of Ammit
I think He Who Remains chose that as the sacred timeline because his variant was born on a period of time where he would be practically harmless. No technology to use his intellect in, so the timeline can progress without a dangerous Kang the Conqueror lurking around.
Yeah, Loki series are just a "what if" for Loki. Will be sad to say goodbye to this timeline, I mean this Loki series but at least now we know what "might have been" if Loki was more of an hero than a villain.
I've been thinking of how in the season 1 finale, when Kang heard that Miss minutes still calls him He Who Remains he said "oh she's still calling me that?" as if he doesn't really interact with her in person anymore.
The pacing in this episode and the series as a whole is so consistently good...But Mannequin-Miss Minutes is forever burned into my mind. That was worse than the jump-scare in season 1 lol.
I love how instead of Kang going through different periods of time like in the comics, they used TVA agents to activate Kang's branched timelines creating variants.
Who else agrees that this was the best episode by far this finally got the story going towards these secret wars that were all so interested to know about!
There were a few hints to Disney in this episode too! When Loki was looking at the Norway pavilion and asking how they could characterize a whole country into a few things I felt like it was a dig at EPCOT. and when Victor Timely said “ if you can dream it, you can achieve it” is very close to a quote associated with Walt Disney “if you can dream it, you can do it”
27:36 i am so glad you brought up this part about dreams! As confirmed in Multiverse of Madness, Dreams are looks into your variant selves, right??? Like Victor Timely was seeing himself each night as He Who Remains and a pharaoh and all his other selves??? anyways, sounds scary
When Morbius is reciting everything great about Chicago during this time he sounds exactly like another time traveler, Gil Pender, a good friend of F. Scott Fitzgerald, reciting everything great about Paris during the 1920's.
Did anyone catch how some of the international flags shown in the background at the fair, are slightly different than the actual real life flags of that time? Very cool little detail
What’s crazy I can see the same mannerisms in he who remains and victor timely grabbing the fruit and throwing it at the guys chasing him! They are the same person. That’s so dope how they did that! Bravo for this episode
This is the first recap I watched, so maybe some of the other channels will mention it. When Miss Minutes changed colors the text on the screens w/in the TVA changed colors too. When she was orange the images on the screens were orange. When she was pale the images on the screens were pale. It’s like she is still in control of the TVA
@@jeffdrooghow come they keep postponing the court date?? If they was to have said “proof” wouldn’t they want to get his ass out of here sooner than later ?? Whats taking so long? You just spewing bs
Candels were also an old way of telling time, they even put nails into the wax and after some time after the candle melted the nail would fall and hit the metal plate at the bottom working as one of the first alarms
36:25 The third emblem shield from the left is the Korean kingdom of Yi dynasty Joseon! The kingdom did have an exhibition at this fair, which was a year before the first Sino-Japanese War, and 27 years before the Japanese empire annexed the Korean peninsula. Fun little history fact that tracks for consistency in design!
Kudos to Jonathan Majors. I really had to take a step back to realize that he is just an actor and the same actor for all the other variants. It was so different that it felt like Victor Timely was being played by another actor.
@@marcuselvard5922stop spamming the same comment. The people who dislike Majors aren’t haters if he really did partake in domestic abuse. That makes you an apologist.
@@ExcessCompany The elites set him up since he didnt want to sell his soul. When you dont do what they say they destroy your career like Britney Spears or Kanye
This season so far has about 1000 times more exciting than all of Ahsoka was. I am so excited for Thursdays and so bummed when it’s over and I have to wait another week. It’s so great.
@deathstar9137 you really think you did something here 🤣 - occheer is correct.. What does Ahsoka & Loki have in common.. hmmm.. I just can't seem to put my Disney no it ...
Crazy theory. What if OB banished "He Who Remain" to the end of time, the same way kang was banished to the quantum realm? The monster was there to prevent anyone from freeing him instead of guarding him. That's why he wanted someone to kill him to free him. The broken statue is OB, because he was mad about the banishment. If OB wrote the TVA handbook and it was given to Victor, then wouldn't OB be the creator? OB still have all his memories, he is the only one designated to fix the loom, he knows everything about being pruned and that it removes one from time. I think he is manipulating everyone. He can't kill Kang, because Kang has multiple backup plans set in place.
This episode was absolutely phenomenal, loved the acting of Jonathan Majors as Victor Timely, he definitely brought something new to a kang variant and I really like this character.
After watching the first 3 episodes and then the trailer for this season right after that, I’ve realized that we’ve pretty much gone through everything they’ve already showed us. They’re definitely hiding something from us.
Jonathan Majors acting in this was 100000000% better than anything the awful writing in Quantumania forced him to deliver. (He was still BY FAR the best part of that movie but had almost nothing to work with in multiple scenes.)
OB could be the elder of the universe like the collector and the grandmaster. Kang could've conned him into working in the TVA. would be so fun to see that angle Edit : Now that I think about it, Maybe OB could be "the gardener" as he is literally gardening TVA hence gardening the sacred timeline or "the architect" cause he's made literally everything in TVA.
When Victor Timely said "If it can be dreamed, it can be achieved", this was a slightly altered Walt Disney quote. Walt said “If you can dream it, you can do it.."
Phenomenal ep and excellent analysis! When Sylvie is about to stab Victor, and he keeps talks about his heart, I kept thinking back to when Sylvie threatened to cut Loki’s heart out when he was hiding the tempad at Lamentis
25:15 That song is also the one that Calvin Johnson, Dasiy's father sang before he went on a murder spree in SHEILD's base on his wife Jaying's orders....
There have been a lot of Egyptian motifs in every episode so far. Earlier on Sylvie had Ankh earrings as well. Pretty sure we will see the Pharaoh Kang before too long
When the first trailers for Season 2 came out, I assumed Victor Timely would be a Kang from the 31st century, using time travel to go back to the 19th century to push technological advancement of Earth far ahead of what it should be so he could then take over other timelines. But Victor being born there is weird.
At the end of season, one episode one the Minutemen go back to 1858 to Salina Oklahoma and they found a stick in the ground for oil. They said it was from the early third millennia. I don’t believe Loki, Sylvie, put that there. But rather Kang “He who remains” put that there as a contingency plan. According to what I just watched on season two episode three, where Judge Ravonna Renslayer put the TVA handbook on the window sill where a young Victor Timely could find it. Here is the exact quote from that scene from season one episode one. Do you think we will revisit this site again in season two? What are your thoughts on this? MINUTEMAN: Time signature is early third millennium. Definitely anachronistic. Oil. I think some jackass found himself a time machine, came back here to get rich.
Remember he is a variant and since Kang is the Master of Time, his childhood self can be in the 30th century, Chicago 1893 , ancient Egypt or anyway and all at once.
There are countless Kang variants. They could be born anywhere in time, not just in the 31st century. Besides, if he who remains created the TVA, I believe he was not born in the sacred timeline, since that Kang was supposed to have been born in the 31st century. I believe he's always been a variant.
The device victor picks up that you that you said looked like from Indiana Jones…it’s the ship and computer sphere that kang had in quantomania, like a prototype of it. 30:23
This was by far the best episode the 1st 2 episodes had me frustrated how they just kept regoing over everything that we already knew from season 1 this episode had me glued on my seat from beginning to end & then by the end I'm like oh shoot ish just got real!
i loved this epeisode so much! i love when things are set around this time. tail end of the wild west. this season is amazing so far. ALSO, jonathan majors blows me away every times he’s on a screen.
So the little device that Victor holds reminds me of Kang's vehicle in Quantumania. He said it was the culmination of his life's work, he also talks about how the technology of the time hasn't reached a point where he can actually fabricate his vision. So to me, that little model is the closest he can come at that time.
@@jeffdroogno...he's a great actor, who may also be an abusive person. Wouldn't be the 1st person who is good at their job and also a bad person. It can be both. Appreciation of his skills is not the same thing as condoning his (alleged) crimes. Case in point, one can empathize with the Palestinian people without condoning or admiring the brutality of Hamas, while also supporting the right of Israel to exist, without condoning or supporting the bad stuff the IDF has done.
He who remains said that a variant of himself was from the future he could still be Victor Timely and Kang his doppelganger from the future. Especially if Victor travels to the future where his genius and inventions are possible with technology rather than the cons he has to pull in his time of origin
Jonathan Majors deserves so much better. His acting is so top notch. The fact he can make his Kang variants so different is such a treat. I hope he is proven innocent and he can fully come back as Kang.
You're not wrong about "Bless your heart," lololol I just read a book (by Nev March) that took place at the Chicago exposition so it was so, so cool to see it brought to life in this episode! When Timely first showed up, all I could think was Moss from the IT Crowd, that hair...
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thinking could the children's version of Victor timly become Iron Lad?
Why you didn't mention that device he get looks similar to the time ship kang had in quantamonia
Number 7 is old time alarm clocks the wax would burn down to a nail and fall on the wood floor making noises.
I think OB is the PERSONIFICATION representation of time before, Kang fashioned/turned it into a closed loop
@@tonypayne7371 hence why he doesn’t wipe his memory like he does the others. Along with OB like never sleeping ever
Miss Minutes flirting with Victor & getting jealous at Ravonna was NOT what I was expecting 😭😂 it was so creepy
deadasss
Same, I was like "Uh. I don't like this ship at all" xD
Yeah, it was very disturbing
Me too😂😂😂
@@elisesketches Why ?
The Loki series is exactly what marvel should be! It’s got me genuinely excited for the multiverse saga
I love that Loki isn't using his daggers. He seems to be focusing on his magic. He really took a page from classical Lokis book.
Aso just less of that villain doesn’t immediately rush to aggression or violence anymore , this Loki is shaping up to be the strongest Loki of all
ya this season thhey making clear they are not losing track of who he is
He couldn’t use them if he wanted to they’re still in b-15s locker 💀
@@xx_colton_xxwhen morbid have them to him the b-15 took the was the funnest scene in the first season imo
@@DreamsWithDragons imagine him gaining experience to remake an entire planet. Just giving credence to that one Silver Surfer quote. Hell, God of Stories?
Johnathan Majors is so amazing. The one consistent trait between the variants is ruthlessness. Victors stutter feels like a setup. The way he smirks before taking bids and the way he dismissed Ravonna shows glimpses of his true nature.
If you look like Johnathan Majors ( in the MCU lol ) you’re just a bad human 😂 there’s no hope for anything kangs kill them all smh Sylvie is tripping
@@MASTERPIECEFROMGODfacts
Also I don't think Victor may be a bad person. He didn't stutter that much when he was pleading with Sylvie & did want to just be his own person instead of what the others think he is.
They are all the same person… this is the he who remains variant who’s upbringing made him a more compassionate and brainy version… this is the one variant who should be HWR…
Same worldview as thanos but better execution
YES! I feel like the stutter is just part of his swindler persona.
I think the stutter Victor uses is more of a deception so that he seems harmless to others, definitely worked on Sylvie to give him that harmless vibe
Yoooo yesss 100%
of course it is hes a swindler
Since Victor Timely is stuttering whenever he speaks or talks, he may very well be the Kang the Conqueror variant that we saw in Quantumania. I could be wrong tho hahah
He who remains also stuttered at the end of season 1 when he said “se…see you soon” he who remains also takes long pauses when he speaks haha 😅
C-c-c-Claudius!
Candles, at one point in history, were used to tell time. A young Victor Timely literally molding and shaping a way to harness time, was a brilliant character detail!
Someone said he's making a candle clock..
Legit! The MCU is so freaking good at weiving little triple entendres and such. The tiny details make the big ones even better!
Jonathan Majors is doing such a wonderful job portraying Kang! I love how he portrays each variant in a different way.
No
@@anthonyxavier3356yes
He was extraordinary. I definitely can't do without him after seeing Victor Timely. We don't care about the haters.
I am really glad majors is back!
He's killing it for sure
My theory based on what victor said about OB is that kang uses OB as kind of his memory card and also the meaning of his name being a symbol of the snake eating it’s own tail (ala a loop) show’s OBs significance to the arrival of kang. I think kang has let OB keep his memory so that he ALWAYS writes the tva manual and is the keeper of said manual who never interacts with anyone who can interrupt his purpose. And in turn eventually when the loom fails, and kangs presence is needed, that manual will somehow find its way into a new timeline where kang is born. Thus repeating the process over and over again.
Never thought about it like that but damn you may be right
That was pretty obvious
@@BruceWayne-ue5dj not to most.
I think there's going to be some sort of major time travel shenanigans regarding some sort of loop hence the name of the first episode. Minus being his name i think its going to be something major
the fact that you get these episodes out so fast is an accomplishment in and of itself
It's a team effort
He got access to it early. A lot of creators got first 4 episodes early.
@@fayiz_Fzthat still doesn’t mean this wasn’t hard work ✋
@@andrewvega5567no one said it did
@@caitlynlivingston7272lol I have to really focused for understanding what's happening but still confused.
The Throughput Multiplier is the prototype for Kang's multiversal engine core from Antman Quantumania. It has the same spherical shape and looks to function in the same way. As he says in the episode, his latest work is, "The key to understanding and manipulating time". Victor also has the multiversal engine renderings from Quantumania drawn inside of the TVA guidebook. Lastly, Victor's little "chair device" that he has Renslayer sit in with all of the gadgets and buttons on it is a nod to Kang's eventual Time Chair from the comics. So many little easter eggs in this episode.
christ, you're right
I'm shocked he didn't say that because I caught the sphere connection right away.
Keen eye, didn't catch that
I reckon Sylvie didn’t kill Victor because his pleading reminded her of herself and how she felt when she was pruned. She was pruned/punished for something she didn’t do (yet). She could change and be a good person if she was given a chance
exactly
Yes, indeed
Uhh... didn't he say exactly that in the video?
@@justyouwatch5611he said may be ,they agreed on his opinion
As a marvel fan, I'm so grateful for Loki season2. We get some Loki magic and Jonathan majors does such a great job.
He's literally carrying the MCU
This episode was fantastic!! Tom was as great as ever and Johnathan Majors was great. Loki is absolutely carrying the Disney + side of the MCU. Hope we look back after Kang Dynsaty/Secret Wars and give Tom Hiddleston his flowers for being the backbone of this era of the MCU. 🙏🏿💚
He’s been the backbone since the beginning of the mcu
@@prisonmike729 nah, that would be Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr.
@@MegaDudeman21 Yet both of them are nowhere to be found. But we still have Loki
@@doctornobody0please just stop lmao
@@doctornobody0valid lol
Theory Time: Renslayer said in this episode that she's the only one who can bring stability to the TVA. Yeah she said it in anger, but if correct, then it could be that it's her temporal aura that the loom needs, not He Who Remains or any variant of his. That would explain why she was placed in the TVA. She also mentioned being in the TVA for eons which adds context.
Agree
That makes since 😮I never thought of that helluva twist
Renslayer is a female kang variant
My thinking as well . @@victorlopezgonzalez8516
@@victorlopezgonzalez8516 I think this is where this is going.
This is one of the Best
Things marvel has produced, EVER. I love every time Loki uses his magic powers 💚
As a person who has went through speech Therapy for stuttering. The long pauses in Victor's speech is a tool taught to people who Stutter so they can give a speech with out the stutter. Just a thought on the speech pattern of Victor at the worlds faur.
I think the scene of young Victor shows he had an interest in timekeeping before receiving the T.V.A. manual.
During this time period candles could be used as a type of clock. You could light the candle at sunrise and track the hours as it burns down throughout the day.
Also I noticed the object sitting on the table in front of the candles looks like a very early design for the Loom
@@GitsumSausholy shit good catch
I loved the interaction between Sylvie and Victor. Sylvie is such an advocate for free-will, and when he mentions that he can make his own decisions, I think she understood that if she killed him she would be no better than the TVA.
Season 2 has been amazing so far. This series has some of the best pacing, storytelling, and filmography in the MCU
It was a weirdly paced episode that mostly didn't work
@@JAYmeeFromAmericanow you lying pacing of this episode was great
@@JAYmeeFromAmericaThere's always at least one of you. It's okay to be happy and enjoy things champ. Let others do the same 🙏🏼
@@JAYmeeFromAmericai truly dont think we watched the same thing
@@JaySewani yeah he's definitely lying I could have agreed with him with the 1st 2 episodes cus the way those were paced had me pissed off how they just kept regoing over the story from season 1 but this episode was phenomenal it was paced perfectly it felt like it was longer than it was and I mean that in the most best way possible I was all expecting it to end before it got real good and it just kept getting better and better and better and then I realized damn that's the longest episode so far rightfully so
Ravonna introduces herself as Ravonna. But Victor calls her miss rensalyer later in the show. This shows that Victor Timely knows exactly what he is doing and is playing so as not to cause a suspicion.
I had noticed that
I caught that too!
What a detail!!
I think Timely is He Who Remains. It’s his origin story. The end of HWR, is his origin. His end is his beginning and his beginning is his end(at the end of time). Like an Oroborus.
No HWR said in episode 6 of S1 he is a scientist from 31st century, Victor Timely is a variant who isn't evil and HWR trust him to take charge of the TVA
@@QuangMinh-kd1bn that's what I hope they explain. All Kangs are supposed to be from the 31st century, yet Victor Timely is a child in the 1860s..... maybe someone put him there??
@@QuangMinh-kd1bn HWR said there was a variant of him in the 31st century who discovered the multiverse. he didn't specifically said it was him.
@@babystephena3773he said that that the first variant discovered Alioth, he than later says “I weaponized Alioth” so he is referring to himself.
@@Wetwilly87 discovering Alioth is different to using it as a weapon
12:33 It is definitely not Loki's jealousy of Thor this time. It's HIS way to distract himself and cope with his heartaches from the fact that everyone close to him is gone💔
How can this commenter say that. He should know Loki that he’s not jealous of Thor
Because, this Loki has been taken from his timeline, so his purpose changes ;)@@Bunnylovecrypto
I agree. He's not jealous of Thor in that moment, he just misses him and is covering up his sadness
When Sylvie wanted to kill Victor for what/who he would do/become in the future, it made parallels to how Harrow killed people due to the ideology of Ammit
Had same thought on rhe scene
This was by far the greatest episode of the entire series for me 🔥
I heard Sylvie's unspoken "and I am Chaos!" loud and clear. BRILLIANT film making! :)
I think He Who Remains chose that as the sacred timeline because his variant was born on a period of time where he would be practically harmless. No technology to use his intellect in, so the timeline can progress without a dangerous Kang the Conqueror lurking around.
My guess is when he who remains said he’s been through a lot of scenarios…every one had Sylvie killing him so he took the proper precautions
I feel that is wonderful how Loki has progressed over this series Loki is becoming a better person and I think that is beautiful
Yeah, Loki series are just a "what if" for Loki. Will be sad to say goodbye to this timeline, I mean this Loki series but at least now we know what "might have been" if Loki was more of an hero than a villain.
So far season 2 has not disappointed! This episode was absolutely awesome! Johnathan Majors did amazing as well!
He was extraordinary. I definitely can't do without him after seeing Victor Timely. We don't care about the haters.
@@marcuselvard5922wdym ignore the haters he's facing allegations for domestic abuse
Majors was the best thing about this episode.
I thought it was all a bit hammy acting myself. The whole episode in fact.
@@godlikemonolith I think that was kinda the point, to make timely seem clumsy and naive.
I've been thinking of how in the season 1 finale, when Kang heard that Miss minutes still calls him He Who Remains he said "oh she's still calling me that?" as if he doesn't really interact with her in person anymore.
The pacing in this episode and the series as a whole is so consistently good...But Mannequin-Miss Minutes is forever burned into my mind. That was worse than the jump-scare in season 1 lol.
Yeah that was terrifying.
Up there with dead Vison’s face in Wandavision for too freaky moments in the MCU
The jumpscare in season 1 last episode is worse
@@potatotomato5080I agree, that was the purest form of a jumpscare.
Omg can someone remind me which was the jumpscare in s1 lol
Loki has matured as a character. Love to see it.
I love how instead of Kang going through different periods of time like in the comics, they used TVA agents to activate Kang's branched timelines creating variants.
I love the attention to tiny details in this episode, like the letters for "temporal marvels" on the beer hall sign being two toned in Kang's colors.
Who else agrees that this was the best episode by far this finally got the story going towards these secret wars that were all so interested to know about!
Me. It's cool.
Definitely the best so far
Loki season 2 is going up with each episode and that's what audience expects from a good series.
Jonathon Majors range of acting is incredible! He had me feeling angry, sorry, confused all in one episode. amazing talent
timley pleading when sylve is tryna kill him moved me to tears
Thank you for these breakdowns! I love the Marvel universe and love having a community like this that cares so deeply for the details
These breakdowns have become essential viewing after each episode to help me piece together what I just saw. Thank you Eric and team for your service!
There were a few hints to Disney in this episode too! When Loki was looking at the Norway pavilion and asking how they could characterize a whole country into a few things I felt like it was a dig at EPCOT. and when Victor Timely said “ if you can dream it, you can achieve it” is very close to a quote associated with Walt Disney “if you can dream it, you can do it”
27:36 i am so glad you brought up this part about dreams! As confirmed in Multiverse of Madness, Dreams are looks into your variant selves, right??? Like Victor Timely was seeing himself each night as He Who Remains and a pharaoh and all his other selves??? anyways, sounds scary
When Morbius is reciting everything great about Chicago during this time he sounds exactly like another time traveler, Gil Pender, a good friend of F. Scott Fitzgerald, reciting everything great about Paris during the 1920's.
I appreciate how ~timely~ you’ve been with these episode breakdowns
Did anyone catch how some of the international flags shown in the background at the fair, are slightly different than the actual real life flags of that time? Very cool little detail
What’s crazy I can see the same mannerisms in he who remains and victor timely grabbing the fruit and throwing it at the guys chasing him! They are the same person. That’s so dope how they did that! Bravo for this episode
This is the first recap I watched, so maybe some of the other channels will mention it.
When Miss Minutes changed colors the text on the screens w/in the TVA changed colors too. When she was orange the images on the screens were orange. When she was pale the images on the screens were pale. It’s like she is still in control of the TVA
Jonathan Majors just nails all these variants so well! They all feel so different and he showed that a lot with Victor Timely!!
Any consistent slight change could be considered as a variant lol
Thank God he needs to keep beating them
@@jeffdroogproof buddy?
@@jeffdrooghow come they keep postponing the court date?? If they was to have said “proof” wouldn’t they want to get his ass out of here sooner than later ?? Whats taking so long? You just spewing bs
@@jeffdroog buddy it still hasnt been proved yet whether he did it or not...
So be quiet kiddo
Candels were also an old way of telling time, they even put nails into the wax and after some time after the candle melted the nail would fall and hit the metal plate at the bottom working as one of the first alarms
36:25 The third emblem shield from the left is the Korean kingdom of Yi dynasty Joseon! The kingdom did have an exhibition at this fair, which was a year before the first Sino-Japanese War, and 27 years before the Japanese empire annexed the Korean peninsula. Fun little history fact that tracks for consistency in design!
I theorised this in your 1x02 revisit video over a month ago. Before Loki season 2 was released. Glad you've caught up.
Kudos to Jonathan Majors. I really had to take a step back to realize that he is just an actor and the same actor for all the other variants. It was so different that it felt like Victor Timely was being played by another actor.
He was extraordinary. I definitely can't do without him after seeing Victor Timely. We don't care about the haters.
@@marcuselvard5922stop spamming the same comment. The people who dislike Majors aren’t haters if he really did partake in domestic abuse. That makes you an apologist.
Let's bring this back on course folks and appreciate the art 🎨 🙌🏾 victor timely was an amazing character looking forward to more of Johnathan work .
Facts!
@@ExcessCompany The elites set him up since he didnt want to sell his soul. When you dont do what they say they destroy your career like Britney Spears or Kanye
Jonathan Majors's performances as different versions of Kang are incredible.
This season so far has about 1000 times more exciting than all of Ahsoka was. I am so excited for Thursdays and so bummed when it’s over and I have to wait another week. It’s so great.
@deathstar9137 you really think you did something here 🤣 - occheer is correct.. What does Ahsoka & Loki have in common.. hmmm.. I just can't seem to put my Disney no it ...
Crazy theory.
What if OB banished "He Who Remain" to the end of time, the same way kang was banished to the quantum realm? The monster was there to prevent anyone from freeing him instead of guarding him. That's why he wanted someone to kill him to free him. The broken statue is OB, because he was mad about the banishment.
If OB wrote the TVA handbook and it was given to Victor, then wouldn't OB be the creator? OB still have all his memories, he is the only one designated to fix the loom, he knows everything about being pruned and that it removes one from time.
I think he is manipulating everyone. He can't kill Kang, because Kang has multiple backup plans set in place.
I could definitely see a large part of this being true, although not the last part. I'm not sure I would like OB being a secret villain.
This episode was absolutely phenomenal, loved the acting of Jonathan Majors as Victor Timely, he definitely brought something new to a kang variant and I really like this character.
@@jeffdroogit’s is innocent and all the proof is out there go somewhere with this nonsense
@@jeffdroogthe women dropped the charges
He was extraordinary. I definitely can't do without him after seeing Victor Timely. We don't care about the haters.
@@jeffdroogwho even are you
After watching the first 3 episodes and then the trailer for this season right after that, I’ve realized that we’ve pretty much gone through everything they’ve already showed us. They’re definitely hiding something from us.
Jonathan Majors acting in this was 100000000% better than anything the awful writing in Quantumania forced him to deliver. (He was still BY FAR the best part of that movie but had almost nothing to work with in multiple scenes.)
NAH, NAH! Secret invasion is probably the worst thing, since fkn Iron fist 😅
@Danyelle94 yeah but majors wasn't even in that 😅
well just case the writing in Quantumania was bad doesn't mean his acting was
@@pinklemons7254 just stating the bad writing.m more than anything guys 😁
@@anthonycorral329 I think he’s a fantastic actor. All actors have their hits and misses. But mainly I’ve seen great work.
The candle making may be a reference to how candles were once used as clocks. That would explain why all Kang variants would be fascinated by them.
I wait after every Loki episode for you’re break down you’re doing gods work Fr
Yee
OB could be the elder of the universe like the collector and the grandmaster. Kang could've conned him into working in the TVA. would be so fun to see that angle
Edit : Now that I think about it, Maybe OB could be "the gardener" as he is literally gardening TVA hence gardening the sacred timeline or "the architect" cause he's made literally everything in TVA.
The breakdown is almost as long as the episode of the show... I love it
When Victor Timely said "If it can be dreamed, it can be achieved", this was a slightly altered Walt Disney quote. Walt said “If you can dream it, you can do it.."
I loved this episode! it was very entertaining, lots of double crossing and even Sylvie was somewhat likable at the end of the episode
I think HWR's child being a candle maker is interesting because a candle can symbolize time, visualized.
Ooooooh 🤯
When did Loki develop this swag when he walks? I like it.
I stammer, and I loved how Major's did it. And yes, the long pauses he did, helps.
Phenomenal ep and excellent analysis! When Sylvie is about to stab Victor, and he keeps talks about his heart, I kept thinking back to when Sylvie threatened to cut Loki’s heart out when he was hiding the tempad at Lamentis
That too was also episode 3 of the first season.
25:15
That song is also the one that Calvin Johnson, Dasiy's father sang before he went on a murder spree in SHEILD's base on his wife Jaying's orders....
When Victor was reaching for the tempad that was terrifying
There have been a lot of Egyptian motifs in every episode so far. Earlier on Sylvie had Ankh earrings as well.
Pretty sure we will see the Pharaoh Kang before too long
This episode was 10/10
21:41 Victor gave those pants to Thor before those carvings were made.
When the first trailers for Season 2 came out, I assumed Victor Timely would be a Kang from the 31st century, using time travel to go back to the 19th century to push technological advancement of Earth far ahead of what it should be so he could then take over other timelines. But Victor being born there is weird.
That’s what I assumed too. Also, we don’t know that he was born there, just that he was raised there.
“ placed “ there by a certain “ somebody “ ….
At the end of season, one episode one the Minutemen go back to 1858 to Salina Oklahoma and they found a stick in the ground for oil. They said it was from the early third millennia. I don’t believe Loki, Sylvie, put that there. But rather Kang “He who remains” put that there as a contingency plan. According to what I just watched on season two episode three, where Judge Ravonna Renslayer put the TVA handbook on the window sill where a young Victor Timely could find it. Here is the exact quote from that scene from season one episode one. Do you think we will revisit this site again in season two? What are your thoughts on this?
MINUTEMAN: Time signature is early third millennium. Definitely anachronistic. Oil. I think some jackass found himself a time machine, came back here to get rich.
Remember he is a variant and since Kang is the Master of Time, his childhood self can be in the 30th century, Chicago 1893 , ancient Egypt or anyway and all at once.
There are countless Kang variants. They could be born anywhere in time, not just in the 31st century. Besides, if he who remains created the TVA, I believe he was not born in the sacred timeline, since that Kang was supposed to have been born in the 31st century. I believe he's always been a variant.
30:25 I believe that invention that he's holding and puts in his bag is the chair Kang uses in Quantumania. (Time Sphere)
30:25 for me it looks like a prototype of the multiversal engine core from antman 3 used to power he's Time Chair
Exactly! I can't believe that they didnt reach that same conclusion, it seems so obvious
The device victor picks up that you that you said looked like from Indiana Jones…it’s the ship and computer sphere that kang had in quantomania, like a prototype of it. 30:23
This was by far the best episode the 1st 2 episodes had me frustrated how they just kept regoing over everything that we already knew from season 1 this episode had me glued on my seat from beginning to end & then by the end I'm like oh shoot ish just got real!
Episode 4 is usually always the best of the season
i loved this epeisode so much! i love when things are set around this time. tail end of the wild west. this season is amazing so far. ALSO, jonathan majors blows me away every times he’s on a screen.
30:22 The device looks a bit like Kang's Time Sphere (Chair/Ship) in Quantumania. Also like the Orb in that movie.
It most likely is
Loki + Sylvie are chaos
Rennslayer + Kang are order.
Always in chaos… like entropy.
I think the sphere he hold is like an early prototype just like Kang has in the Antman
This was my thought as well, the "culmination of his life's work" being the ship he uses to take control.
I thought that too. The culmination of his life's work is his time chair which this object seems to resemble.
This is one of the best episodes of any TV series I've seen. Loki has been my favorite MCU series. Great writing and characters!
you guys really got this done... Timely
So the little device that Victor holds reminds me of Kang's vehicle in Quantumania. He said it was the culmination of his life's work, he also talks about how the technology of the time hasn't reached a point where he can actually fabricate his vision. So to me, that little model is the closest he can come at that time.
Ravonna and Ms. Minutes literally doing what Wanda was doing 😂😂
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Nice to know you connect with Chicago roots 😊 I grew up on the West side then moved out to the Burbs 😊
Jonathan Majors acting is some of the best we have seen not just in Marvel but period.
@@jeffdroogseems like you the bot here ma’am
@@jeffdrooggo cry yourself a River..he has been convicted
@@jeffdroogno...he's a great actor, who may also be an abusive person. Wouldn't be the 1st person who is good at their job and also a bad person. It can be both. Appreciation of his skills is not the same thing as condoning his (alleged) crimes. Case in point, one can empathize with the Palestinian people without condoning or admiring the brutality of Hamas, while also supporting the right of Israel to exist, without condoning or supporting the bad stuff the IDF has done.
@@jeffdroog the belive all women days are over. We listen to women and believe proof.
He who remains said that a variant of himself was from the future he could still be Victor Timely and Kang his doppelganger from the future. Especially if Victor travels to the future where his genius and inventions are possible with technology rather than the cons he has to pull in his time of origin
Jonathan Majors deserves so much better. His acting is so top notch. The fact he can make his Kang variants so different is such a treat. I hope he is proven innocent and he can fully come back as Kang.
true. he is the reason i got involved in this masterpiece
This episode was amazingly done. Miss Minutes was super creepy!
I think it's revona's temporal aura they really need.
Oooo good one
That'd be a twist
Majors is an amazing actor. I’m very impressed with him.
I still think kang is in a timeloop prison.
I think OB is the warden.
He always is/was, to keep the rest of the Kangs from spreading. But the question is whether it's of his own design.
You're not wrong about "Bless your heart," lololol
I just read a book (by Nev March) that took place at the Chicago exposition so it was so, so cool to see it brought to life in this episode!
When Timely first showed up, all I could think was Moss from the IT Crowd, that hair...
Best episode so far
fascinating dive into Chicago's history, love it
I was literally just searching for this like 2 minutes ago the timing is crazy
Time is everything
Loved this episode with the cinematic tones and real time feel.