Im a fulltime musician, been using an RC300 since it came out10/11 years ago. Just bought a RC600, Im tech savey, but this thing has alot going on and I wanna start gigging with it asap. Your vids are by faaarrrr the best on the the net. Thanks sista, your a legend....
Oh snap that is a real compliment! I was so used to the 300. It felt like another instrument to me. Definitely a little learning curve with this one, but I’m sure you’ll be able to hit the ground and running and figure out as you go. I’m interested to hear how you decide to set yours up! Really nice to meet you :)
Aww thanks friend! Even as I was editing this first comparison, I am discovering new things. So I’ll have to make some supplements as I go along! Thanks for checking it out 🥰🥰🥰
Oh good! I wa so accustomed to the 300, I definitely feel like I’m always comparing to that. This was pretty early on. Might need an update on how it’s been for the past few months now that I’m more acclimated to this one
This video confirms my suspicions......nobody makes a looper the way I would. I sometime wonder if the designers are players or performers at all. Live performance functionality is way more important than features to me personally. Love what you do, and take inspiration from your performances. - Cheers
Aww Joe! Love hearing this. And I kind of agree. It’s filled with so many flashy features, when the bread and butter needs to be so simple. I’m interested in how you do things? Tell me about ur music!
6:38 So true, effects need to be assignable as to be readily available, instantaneously, there are numerous times, often within one song where an exaggerated delay for example, or a specialty effect is needed, 'we' need to be able to add and end an effect in an instant, where called for.
@@EmilyMcVicker Thanks for the replies! It will be interesting to see where all this 'looper' tech takes us, where it goes from here, loopers are taking on the appearance of processors, and processors have long been attempting. to take on the role of loopers, lol. The issues that you raised are things that also would concern me, I hope, you get this pedal sorted to the point where it covers all the bases for you. I may opt for the RC500, I only need to lay down simple rhythm tracks and use the onboard drums, but I need wav or mp3 export to my laptop which I think the 500 has. The older RC30's weren't acceptable to me due to the terrible sound quality of recording loops vs guitar quality, if I went for great guit quality sound, the looped track would be compromised and/or, visa versa, I think it was 24 bit rate, hopefully the newer 32 bit solves that issue.
I'm all done with Boss loopers and their antiquated small screen menu diving... Got rid of my RC-600 for a Headrush Looperboard... Huge improvement in ease of use and workflow...
Yes, now if only they had the same reliability I would agree. With the RC-600, you set it up at home and gig with it when its done being setup. You Can NOT create a workflow on stage.
There are some strong pros and still some cons. I hope they iron out the firmware in the 600 so that it works for everyone. Still feels like it’s a bit of a work in progress. But I’ve stuck with it and like some of the new things it can do
Thanks for all the work that went into this video! I've been thinking of upgrading from an RC-30 into an RC-300 and initially thought the RC-600 was too complicated vs. the three pedals on the RC-300, but I think your video just changed my mind.
Reverb and dealt big issues. Please how can I fix the below. I am an ambient music creator. Having the rc Reverb and delay on monitor/input signal means the fade out tail is cut when a loop is recorded. However. Track fix are not applied to monitor/input signal, only a loop once it’s recorded on the respective track. So how do have a long deep reverb or delay on my vocals that I can loop and not have the tail cut of in the loop??? In a recording DAW this is easy achieved by a send return. Both loop and input signal use the same verb/delay. Why is the internet not talking more about, as far as I can tell, there can’t be a same reverb on input and loop that isn’t cut off in the loop end. as far as I can tell input rc reverb and delay is useless because it can’t translate to a loop and the track fx do not occur in input signals?
Hey. Couple ideas. We all have to design how we want the tools to work for us. Maybe you wait to stop recording til it captures the whole reverb tail. Sounds like you’re using input FX - could you try track FX?
Heyyyy Emily! Love your videos! I’ve been using the RC-30 and always wanted to upgrade to RC-300, but now this new baby got me by surprise… Can’t wait to see more of it!! Keep being amazing! 👏💜
Oh awesome Rafa! It works in your favor that they are making these features better and better. I just heard there an update to claim. We’re living in a world of tech now haha
@@EmilyMcVicker hell yeah!!! We gotta make the best with what we have! Can't wait to get my hands (and feet) on the RC-600, but it will take quite some time for it to get to Brazil and it will surely be really expensive!! Thank youuu 💜💜💜
I'm in the market for either of these pedals, and found your video to be both intertaining and informative. I also love your voice! You got a new subscriber.
I am so glad I found this channel! I have an RC300 but I only use 10% of it at a few shows. I definitely need to jump into it! Thanks for this comparison.
@@EmilyMcVicker I’ll go check them out! I am loving the content in your channel, you are such a talented musician and very creative in your loop performances
This is great! I am sure other have commented- I am new to the rehlm of looping. I do a lot of solo acoustic shows and would like to add depth with looping. I plan on utilizing my gigs with looping - would you recommend just goin' with the RC-600 or start from scratch with the RC-1 or similarly a good start with the RC-300? Thank you for your response. Great video and content. I look forward to more.
Hey Miguel! You know, the 600 or the 300 would be great for you. But they are different sizes and that might be something to consider with any current pedal set up you’re working with. The 300 works so great. But the 600 does have such a clearer sound and higher bitrate and all that. Those would be the biggest factors to consider. If you wanna loop vocals and more than just guitar, I would not recommend any single track loopers like the RC-1 because you’ll grow out of it too fast. That’s my 2 cents :) Lemme know how it goes!
@@EmilyMcVicker great info - went ahead and snagged the RC-600. I'm pumped. Thanks for the information - keep jammin' and keep up the stellar content. YeeYEE
I swapped my track select switch, and all start/Stop buttons. So the start/stop is on the left, and track select is on the right. And I also did what Katie Dwyer said and changed the Undo/Redo to turn on an effect.
Love that I found this... wanted to ask you exactly all these questions on your Twitch streams but obviously this format you can give the more in depth answers I was looking for about the RC-600. Cheers Emily! :D
Hi Emily love your videos at the moment I have the 300 and have barely used it but it definitely seems gig able my bro brought the 600 and didn't like it I'm figuring I stick with the 300 cos I got no cash and when I can afford it go with the aeros gold looper cos I use the Beat buddy Really appreciate your input Thanks sooo much you're so inspiring Thankyou stevo x
Started using the RC-300 expression pedal to fade and now I’m wondering if I’ll miss it when I upgrade to the 600. Might be getting a mini volume pedal after all..🫤
Oh interesting. I never used the expression pedal on the 300, but the 600 is so much smaller, adding one will be just about the same. It’ll just be more expensive 😬😬😬 but it if works the way you want it, it’ll be worth it!
@@EmilyMcVicker yeah, I don’t think I’m going to do that right away. I can’t justify the volume pedal right now cause I didn’t use it enough on the 300. We shall see!
Hi Loopers, I have loved my RC-30. I want to add 1 more track. Will the 600 be user friendly and act like the RC-30 ? I don't need the effects or anything else. Just play a phrase, click, it repeats, then on to track 2 I go. Can I expect this simplicity from the 600 ? Sure would appreciate your thoughts. THX !
Great clip, Emily. A good help for people like me, who want to start with with looping on a more professional level. Iwill follow you for more tutorials. By the way ... i don't care if you put the two looper together, since I only will buy one of them ... better use your time for more instructional stuff ....thanks a lot and greez from Germany. 😊
Hey! Okay good to know 😜 ya I’d definitely recommend for someone who has played w loopers before. Might be a little more challenging for beginners. Still be good, but could take more time getting comfortable
Yes!!! Thank you! I played a festival last weekend with an outdoor stage and I could hardly see any colors at all lol… but that’s true if any guitar pedals I think
Thanks- Great video - I was considering getting the rc 600 - But you totally convinced me to stik with the rc 300 ❤ - Did not even know they made a rc 900😅 🙏🤘
Hey! That’s a great question! I have the green VOLT power bank I had been using with the 300, but you just brought to my attention that it won’t work with this new one 😅. Which is too bad cuz I like the Volt! Maybe there is a new adapter that could let it plug in
you may get to this later in the video, but there's a different mode for the mode selector button. I hate having to wait to use the 3rd mode, so I changed the mode to the incremental one, instead of the default click between 1/2 and hold for effects on 3. easier just to click through them 1-2-3-1... need to update that button on all 3 modes to get it accomplished
sorry that wasn't clear. pedal mode inc is the setting you can swap out on pedal 7 if you want to use the effects... or... use the setup I created... one mode which lets you record and stop the target track, buttons to inc/dec target track, and the rest of the buttons for input effects so you can quickly cycle between effects while recording across different tracks, and not have to leave the mode. Gaaah I'm such a geek. I love these loopers!
Ah yes I hear ya! I get into this on my next video. Still editing :) thanks for the tips! I agree about the holding. I might add some expression pedal supplements as well
About the volume knob trick (8:51) - I know some musicians that turn the knobs on their pedals from the side of the knob. For example, it's relatively common with some classic MXR pedals (they come with a dedicated rubber knob cover). Do you think a similar method can works with the output knob located on the top left side of the Boss RC-600?
I met you at the SEA Airport a few years ago, you were performing (fantastically!) using the RC 300 looper. I was looking to buy an RC 600 and happened across your vid here. So glad to see you're doing great, and I'm in for the 600.
Oh holy smokes! What a small world. That was such a lovely gig at the airport. I used to be there about once a week. Super sweet of you to write ❤️ keep in touch my friend!
You could always put the sustain pedal on the right side of the 600 and work backwards starting with loop 3 and work down. Did it all the time with the 300 because of where the expression pedal and effects button were located. That would also help with hitting the nob on the track 3
oh thats a really good idea! might have to try that. for some reason that sounds lefthanded to me haha but kind of a brilliant work around. just have to change my habits
Yeah! Go RC-900! Great video...I have the RC-300 and recently got the 505MKII! This works great! You can get a pedal board like the Airstep and fix all your problems with the 505MKII.
Good Job, looked it till the end :D -- Is the harmonizer able to hamonize in the scale I gave him (importend for especially the third...) or did he always harmonize the same Interval ?
@@EmilyMcVicker thx, but that's not what I like to know ... I mean if we are in Cmaj, does it make a major third on a C and a minor third on a A for example.. ?
Yes! I designated a switch that I put on pedal mode three that clears all the tracks with one click. And in practice, I’m finding I don’t actually use much of the effects. Just because in a performance, I am so much more focused on my singing and connecting with the audience, that I personally just don’t use them. But if I did, I would put them on a FS6 so that they’d be readily accessible. Or I would just use extra guitar pedals. I don’t love the pedal modes because I don’t like all the clicking around during performance. That’s my experience.
@@EmilyMcVicker Ahh interesting thanks for your reply. I have the rc300 but and on the fence whether to upgrade. I use the bass effect a lot but quite like the look of the harmony effect. In your experience is it worth the upgrade? I quite like that you can have different length tracks as it means less time building drum tracks.. Plus the smaller size! Looks like a pain to set up though.
@@EmilyMcVicker Also you mentioned in a vid that the colours on the switches are a pain as they are very similar.. Has this affected performance in live situations? I am a bit colourblind
the 300 has a much simpler lay out. But I think you’re okay starting w 600. Mainly cuz it sounds so much better with the higher but rates and all that. The tricky part for you is deciding what you want the pedal to do for you without the prior experience. I say start somewhere and tweak as u go - that’s my moto!
Thank you for the video, I own a Digitech for simple jobs and the 300 witch I like, I was curious about the 600, maybe you can answer my question, I'm looking to be more efficient on the synch of the loop, I play Brazilian Latin music so a lot of upbeat grooves, I like to start the loop with percussion so Im wondering of the 600 are able to detect the tempo (quantize without ruining ..lol) then play right away so I can add more stuff... thanks in advance, thumbs up up up and you got a new sub... :)
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you for your compliment about my music, and thank you for your feedback about the loops, I'll definitely consider to get a 600 soon!
Internet is such a blessing jejeje I just found out about your channel because of looking at this pedal in sweatwater's page... I recently got my car stolen and it had the RC-300 lost with it, so' I was looking getting a new looper and I think I'm going with this one. I loved this review and am looking forward to knowing more about your music and loops and hopefully learning from your music. I hope you are doing good, greetings from Puerto Rico. - José Eduardo Santana
José! Im so sorry that happened to you! I would absolutely recommend the 600. It takes a while to switch over and get used to a new lay out (at least for me!) but it sounds great and I’m glad I switched
@@EmilyMcVicker thank you for taking the time and replying! I did bought it and even though I've barely scratched the surface, the sound quality is way better and it still feels friendly even though there is a difference in the stomp buttons. I'm having a great time knowing it, just practicing with it and watching lots of videos to get the best out of it. Nice to meet you, keep on the awesomeness.
I dunno “best” 🤷♀️ they are all quality sounding. In my case, I would judge based on practicality. For my style, I like to have an acoustic vibe, but there are some FX that can suit that like reverb and delay. For an a cappella vibe, the bass and harmony can be good (if the Harmonizer gets the parts where u want) but often that is not a need of mine. Many of the Fx are kind of gimmicky, but there’s an artful way to use gimmicks. Just depends on the performer.
@@EmilyMcVicker thanks for the reply. I’d love a video on the reverb, as that is the effect I think I’d use the most. On the rc300 the reverb could only be added to the whole memory slot (all 3 tracks and the drums) I’m assuming the reverb can be put on a single track and doesn’t affect drums?
Hello. I have a problem. I bought a new Boss RC 600 looper. On my computer I have songs made on my old Boss RC 50 looper. How do I make the RC 50 wav files work on the RC 600? Because so far the RC 600 looper shows the message FILE NOT SUPPORTED. And I have a lot of trouble, because there are 10 songs that are not easy. RC 600 wav file and RC 50 wav file. But in the RC 50 I mostly have MONO files, or is that a problem? And some settings need to be made .. tips. Please. I have a recital in a few days ..
awesome 👌 I'm wondering if you know how to set the looper in this way. I've tried heaps but can't quite get there. Bank 1 loop set to me dialing in a short locked in drum beat so I only need to play it short as poss. I then want to lock in a loop in bank 2 say for 12 bars. I want to add another part in bank 3 and for that to be locked in with bank 2 bars. I feel this free loop doesn't make the banks 2&3 tight enough. I want bank three to come in after recording at the same loop length as I've recorded in bank 2.
Ah i think I understand. Have you tried hitting record on the next track before track 3 has finished playing???? I need to make a video on this. Little complicated to write. But let me know how it goes if you go straight to recoding next track. Or if you’re saying something else, please correct me
Love the boots. Yes, I am all for hearing the 300 and the 600 together a bizzallen peddles. As with anything new, it's a learning curve can't wait to see how you developed new muscle memory with the 600 and listen to you playing live. As always love hearing how you create music from songs you write yourself to covers.
I play bass and guitar, and I'm looking to perform with a looper which I can use with both instruments without having to run everything into a single channel in the PA. In other words, I'd like to play my bass through the bass amp, and guitar through the guitar amp, while leaving free PA channels for drums from the looper and live vocals. So far I've tried to make do with a Ditto X2. The RC600 seems like the answer to my prayers, but could I get away with something less elaborate?
Interesting. So you still wanna play through amps first, but mic them to go into the looper? Sounds like the 600 would actually make it set up simpler. I don’t know how many other pedals you might be using with ur loops, but it does have the two xlr inputs and it sounds like you could use them. Unless ur amps have a signal out you could plug into the 1/4” inputs
Oh cool! That machine has nice effects. I like the effects on the 600, just need to access them a little quicker! Trying to decide how I’m gonna do that
Hey Steven! Im sure you would succeed at any pedal you choose if you practice. I think you might love the rc300 tho if you’re just starting. For me the biggest hurdle to the 600 is the customizable stuff and deciding what you want to do with it. So when you’re just starting and you might not know what you’re gonna need. I used the 300 for years and it’s great 👍
The single play feature does not work in the same way on the Boss RC-600 as it does on the Boss RC-300. If you want the recorded tracks to be played in sequence (for example track 1 is the verse, track 2 is the chorus and track 3 is the bridge) things get messed up on the Boss RC-600 if the different tracks have different lengths. The Boss RC-300 doesn't have this issue while almost all other Boss loopers on the market are also having this issue (I got confirmation from users having a Boss RC-500, and both the Boss RC-505 mk1 and mk2).
I'm not sure about that in the case of the Boss RC-500. I think there may be an obscure setting (maybe LOOP_SYNC, possible in conjunction with one or two others) buried in the Parameter Guide available as a PDF but which does not come with the pedal. Then again, I only just got a new RC-500 so I may be in for an unpleasant surprise.
Interesting. Ya I don’t use single mode much because I prefer to sing and play at the same time and not pre-record each section. There are definitely some differences between them, but when you find the work around, let me know how it goes!
@@EmilyMcVicker the workaround is setting loop sync to on while recording the single tracks and setting loop sync to off when playing back the single tracks (keep in mind that the loop sync of a single track that is being played can not be changed, it has to be stopped before changing it). For the Boss RC-505 mk2 there are shortcuts to do this (pressing the track button 3 times will lead you to the right screen, then you can press the third knob to change the loop sync setting). Hopefully Boss can alter this behaviour in their next firmware update. On the Boss RC-300 the loop sync can stay off for all single tracks both during recording and playback which is far more convenient. Another workaround is setting rec quantize setting from measure to off and tempo sync to off for all single tracks (but then the internal rhythm or metronome of the looper can not be used). In that way it doesn't even matter what value the loop sync setting has, it doesn't have to be changed at all.
I have a question about sending BPM signal to a drummer's headphones or into Laptop (with Ableton): how to synchronize a loop station and drummer or Ableton?
That’s a great question. I haven’t gotten quite that deep. But I would mix one of the sub outputs to be for drummer and design their mic that way. I am interested to know how the midi and ableton would work with it. Keep in touch!
Hi, awesome video thanks. Do you think you can make a comparison between the drum system from the RC-10r and the RC-600, is it the same? How good are the drums in the RC-600
Hey! Hmm I don’t have an rc-10 and I’m not really a big user of the pre-programmed drum tracks. I do know that the ones here in the 600 are the newest and sound the cleanest and with more options. But if you like the ones in the rc-10, that’s great!
hey! YES! in the FX section, when you pick harmony, there are options when you go into the effect. so when you go to the input FX, click on one and scroll through. when you get to either of the two harmony options, there's a digital dial next to it where you can chose if you want higher or lower, or unison. they sound pretty good for fake harmonies. If you're familiar with my stuff, you know i like to record my own. but i know others use digital harmony and it's not terrible.
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you so much for your answer! Just discovered your channel and I love it. I started using the RC300 for my gigs last year where I use Keyboard and guitar. I usually used 2 mic stands with 2 mics (One for the main vocals connected to the mixing desk) and the other one to the looper for backing vocals etc. Do you also do it like that or why do you need 2 mics on your gigs? Thanks very much in advance🙏🙏 I am trying to make my gigs as light as possible because I carry too many things haha
Hi Emily, is it possible to use this only with headphones? I have a guitar+bass setup that I would like to use only with headphones or monitors, also no guitar or bass amp Thanks!! Very nice video
I'm in a cover band. We don't have a rhythm player. What I need is the ability to play the rhythm part of any song when I start the lead. For instance, we're doing La Grange by ZZ Top. Ok, the lead starts, but there's also the rhythm guitar playing in the background. What I would like to do is have the rhythm part play while I play the lead solo, but I DON'T need it to loop after its finished playing. Can the RC 600 do this?
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Nice informative Vid! I saw on one of JohnPaul Music UK vids that you can change the track select switch to cycle through each mode with a single click for faster access to the effects. I have my RC 600 coming on Wednesday. I’m excited. Been watching your stuff for inspiration.
Oh awesome thank you! Yes I finally figured it out this morning, someone in a nice Facebook forum helped me out with that. I love the teamwork! Thank you for your comment and I’m so glad you enjoy the videos :-)
I still can’t work out how to turn effects on and off for each track. Not overly detailed manual and I hope you can cover how to set this up at some stage? Thanks
Ah yes. I haven’t even gotten that far yet. It’s gonna be in the routing stuff. My next video, I’ll try to define some terms and set up basics that might be helpful. I’m trying to learn a bit at a time. Pretty soon we’ll have it figuee to d out!
I have a question 🙋♂️ As an example , Let’s say you have recorded guitar parts on 3 different tracks Can I turn these on and off at any time just by pressing on the main buttons at the bottom or do I have to press the track select button to move over to a specific track before I can turn it on or or off ?
Yes! If they are on tracks 1,2,&3, you can just turn them on and off with the buttons on the bottom. Super accessible. The only time it can get a little more button tappy is if you also record in tracks 4,5&6 because would would have to switch to pedal mode 2 in that case. That’s why I usually mainly stick to one pedal mode.
@@EmilyMcVicker thanks for the reply 🙂 Can it be setup like the rc 300 ? You know how the rc300 has 3 tracks and 2 buttons per track for play/rec and stop ? I’m just looking for something super simple to do parallel recording and turning tracks on and off and overdubbing etc as easy as possible.
How has the stability of the RC 600 been for you? I have heard so many reports of crashes and freezes. It has kept me from pulling the trigger and upgrading.
Hard to say. Did you see my video about firmware? Seems like everyone’s use case is so different, what works for some doesn’t work always for others. I am still in the original firmware it came with. The updates made it freeze for me. So I went back and it works fine for me 👍
@@EmilyMcVicker I have not seen it but I will take a look. Thank you for responding and for putting out such high quality content. You are appreciated!
you can change up what the 4 switches all do... may be helpful to put the memory jog switch in the 2nd slot and something a little less dramatic if accidentally pressed in knob number 1. I hooked up my 505Mk2 to my 600 via Midi and it's an absolute blast to play it all together. The FX and bounce-features are where this thing shines.
So.. on the old RC-300 I only use the bass effect. I have assigned the effects button to the bass effect and when pressed, it is immediate (without holding the button down) for recording on any track - (very easy to quickly record a baseline). Is it possible to create this same scenario on the RC-600 except assign 1 button for the bass effect and another button for the harmony effect? My thoughts are to assign the "Track select" button for the bass effect and the "undo/redo" button for the harmony effect. Is this possible and if so, how do you assign these 2 specific tracks and have the chosen effect work immediately upon pressing on all the other channels which are assigned for recording?
Ya you can totally do that 👍 you can do all the switch assignments the same way. In the pedal modes, you just have to go to the specific switch on the pedal mode of your choosing and scroll through all the options it can do. So you can assign any switch to be the bass FX. You’ll assign bass to one of the input FX (ABCD) and then tell the switch to use that input FX on that switch 🤘😆
Were you able to figure a way to get to the effects section quicker? I switched the track select to just cycle through tracks 1-3, tracks, 3-6 and effects on/off, with a single tap for each. Ie from track 1-3, tap twice and you are now accessing effects.
Yes! I did that too and u like it better. Still it would be nice to have the effects even more readily available. I got an FS-6 that I am adding. And it can coordinate with the effects I’ve picked. I probably don’t need crazy effects, but a couple simple ones will make a big impact. I just need to be able to get to them at any time
I'm wondering maybe to take care of that miss hitting the button is maybe have bigger pads on a looping buttons like you had on the 300. I was wondering maybe you can change the colour assignment or maybe have a polarizer lens on the light to make them more colour distinctive.
Those are great ideas! I just found how to customize the lights. But, you know, I think I might be able to change the knob functions. And even moving that knob over to any of the others would help. It is on the list of things I’m trying to find!
Yes you must do a video with both units combined. lol… I just got a Donner Circle looper pedal, I haven’t hooked it up yet but I’m new to this one man band thing and this one has a drum machine on one side and looper on the other side with separate volume controls and 40 spots to save tracks at 4min each 160mins total. Plus a bunch more features I’m forgetting about at the moment. I have a RC3 but the day I brought it home I knocked it off of my amp and broke the volume knob off. All these gadgets cost a lot of money and it never ends with advanced technology. I’m a gear junky so I gotta feed the monster gas monkey as well. lol… thank you and I’m a new sub to your channel. 🎸🤓🎸☮️🇺🇸
@@EmilyMcVicker You should definitely check them out, they seem to be coming of age, so to speak. I think they recently came out with an multieffects unit named Arena so it sounds to me like they are chasing the helix and whatever the others are but within reasonable pricing. The circle looper (I want to call it circle jerk so bad) lol, is very, very, good imo. Really easy to navigate and extremely functional for looper rookies like me. If your timing is off on other loopers you’re loop is off too. This one somehow compensates for timing issues and syncs up with the drum machine side like magic. So you don’t sound like a noob starting out. lol it has all the other features loopers have and maybe more than what other loopers offer. Sorry for carrying on for so long, I can get gear geeky with the best of em. lol take care
2 questions 1: have you found out how to route the mic from the looper into the desk? (No longer needing 2 mics) 2: do daws like logic pro x recognize this as an audio interface for Recording? (Not just storing and saving loops)
Hey! Thanks for the questions. at this time, i'm stil plugging my lead singer mic t(the SM7b) direct, and using my separate mic for loop mic into the rc-600. still ahve some playing around to do i think. not sure that the looper will have a powerful enough pre-amp for an SM7b. HOWEVER, i still see myself only using one mic, but possibly routing my interface back into the looper, so that one mic can still go direct, and ALSO be used for looping. i have some trial and error ahead of me
That would work well. That beta is a great mic to use for looping. I have one as well. Thank you for your reply. After you mess around a little let me know if it acts as an audio interface for recording. It would be great if it could supersede my current one. Thanks again
Also the routing trick would work will with your condenser but would be a little trickier in a live situation. My 600 arrives soon and i’ll let you know what i learn To access your effects without holding the effects button for 2 seconds you can set up the button to just cycle through (pushing once for your next set of loops, another press for your effects; rather than the 2 second hold, and once more for your initial 3 loops Pro, no holding, quicker access to affects Con, an additional press to toggle between your six loops rather than just toggling back and forth between loop bank 1 and 2 Good luck
I am still trying to compare VE 20. VE 200. The RC500 600. I started investigating VE20 as a way adding light effects to my vocal performances in my band, solo etc. I love the idea of getting into looping. my question is if my priority is the effect am I better off with a specialist peddle say EV20
Great video, they make XLR foot switches in order to use one mic but it’s tricky I tried a few ways but I had to use a mic pre amp. I wonder if the 600 has a EQ for micing in.
Why did you not choose the LooperBoard from HeadRush ? I think 🤔 it's a great and huge looper... It's only my taste and a question. What do you think ? Phil from Dunkirk
Hey Phil! Good questions! I just interviewed a talented friend of mine about their experience with the Headrush. They had used a bunch of loopers and the headrush was also their favorite. It is huge isn’t it! Powerful, but kind of gigantic. I personally kinda like the smaller version, as long as I can get it to do all the things I need. I loved the rc-300 so I figured this one would be a good upgrade. It is an upgrade and a lot more tricks than I had previously envisioned. Sounds like you’re super happy with your headrush looper, eh?
One of the first things I did on my 600 was make it so I don't have to long press to get to the FX mode. You can totally make it a tap instead of press to get to that mode.
Yes I agree! I am maybe looking to make the Fx on a supplement pedal so they are always accessible. I agree the long press isn’t very practical. Quick access is key!
The main one is just that it’s a foot one. I bet the 505s could be good when I’m at home. But when I’m playing out and just have a guitar, I kind of needed that didn’t require hands. Do you use the 505?
I’m very interested in just messing around at home with loopers. I wondered the same thing, any ideas if the mkii is still easy to control when playing guitar? I’m thinking the 600 is still better overall…Great video!
@@garywaddell6309 they have the same computer inside. so the main question for the user is if they want to use feet or hands. as a guitar player, might be tricky to use hands. Maybe keys players could do well with either. but these two new ones have the exact same features inside
Hi Emily. Greetings from Colombia, thanks for your videos. I want to ask you. it is possible to record the independent instruments. I can sing and play the guitar at the same time and only record the voice. it is something that cannot be done in the rc 300.
You definitely can do that. I haven’t dig too deep into the rotting options yet. But I know you can. You d root guitar separate out C one of the Suboutputs. But if you didn’t want to loop it at all, I would bíparas looper an And go direct into whatever system you’re using. Am I answering the right question?
I had the RC1 and still the RC3 and am currently using the RC300. What I really miss is the feature the RC1 has. Loop length lights. You always new where you were in the loop. I do long loops so that is something I miss on the 300. After a little checking I see where the 600 has gone back to that. I have one of these in my shopping cart now.
Sounds like you might prefer a different ‘play screen’ have you scrolled through to see? I like the 3rd one that shows each loop length in the shape of a dial. I found this screen to be really helpful! Let me know how it goes!
Ok, so... First of all great video. I love how you explain and break things down. So explain me this. LOL. When you are looping up a harmony or any stacked vocal loop, how do you keep your other tracks being played back from bleeding in to your looper on the 300 or 600? I have the 300 current and I'm on the fence big time on upgrading!!! Thank you. I will subscribe and await your reply...
Hey Phillip! Great question. At home, it’s easy cuz I have in ear monitors. At actual gigs it can be tough if you have wedges. I have started using IEMs for live gigs as well. But if you don’t have them yet, you gotta be strategic about how loud your monitors are and the direction they are pointing. And each space is different.
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you. Yes routing will be super helpful!! I see you are using 2 mics and I never loop vocal because I'm always concerned about bleed from a loop track vocal mic when I open up a track to even record just a guitar part. The mic then becomes hot and introduces the bleed and creates a volume increase. Seems like some people use a gate until they are ready to actually use the 2nd mic? Ugh, too many pedals causes me to look down too much, sing out of tune and miss parts.
Ah yes! I am planning a rhythm demo very soon! I like ur idea. I often put my percussion on a track of its own. I am a beatboxer and use hand percussion for it but I think I know what you’re envisioning. Curious to figure out more with the rhythm tracks!
Great video Emily, I just got my 600 2 days ago and I’m having issues I was wondering if you’ve ever had. I’ll set the BPM manually, start FunkDrummer on iOS, click in/out and I’m finding that the 600 is changing the BPM to the timing of my foots clicks. It’s only by +/- .1 to .3 out but as you know, it isn’t going to stay in time with the beat for long. I don’t know any loop fanatic that can nail the beat consistently everytime. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hey Anthony, hmm ya it’s super important that the beat is good. So when u set the beat at the beginning, do you have a click in your ear to keep you on the tempo that you pre-set? I admit I don’t have experience pre-setting tempos. My trick to doing percussion in loops is keep it simple and short so the time doesn’t accordion itself and the song can have a good feel.
@@EmilyMcVicker in perfect timing, they just released the firmware update for my issue. Thank you for your reply Emily. Now I can use the 600 with midi sync and there's not any loop stretching/strange sounds coming from it. Lol it was apparently a bug that they fixed with this update. Happy looping!
Oh weird. That sounds serious 😳 might need to consult the store you got it from or a Roland rep for that one. I don’t keep anything saved on mine. But I know it has many hours of memory so it sounds like something is really wrong
Love this vid! My guitarist brain is telling me to suggest the 'Cusack pedal cracker', and build a small board for your effects. I just purchased my first multi track looper and I'm thrilled to find you as resource!
Thank you for this! I was going to buy an RC 500 to do live sound healing and performing with a duo, but a tech friend said that the 300 would be better for that. But now having watched this I’m wondering if I should get the 600 ? Any one know the difference between the 500 and the 600? 🙏🏻
The main difference to me would be the physical lay out. I heard some buggy things about the 500 and wasn’t tempted at all. He nice thing about the 300 and the 600 is the buttons are layer out and accessible. So you can play without fiddling with ur hands. The 600 has noticeably better sound quality if you ask me. But both 300 & 600 are great!
Thank you, truly for this it was a great review, probably one of the best, I’ve had a 300 for many many many years 11 I think, the 600 we will see how truly hardware it really works, according to most a lot of stuff Hass to happen in software which defeats the purpose of the looper itself, I am a hardware guy
I feel you. I think if finding simple settings that allow you to use it in the ways you need, that’s the trick. Im happy with my lay out now that I’ve customized a little more.
Hey Emily, I'm used to the 300, with all the tracks the same length ( the lenght of the first track), do you know if the RC-600 can be limited that way? thanks
Ya the beta 58 is the loop mic. Didn’t have to adjust yet. The metal isn’t too loud… but one time I noticed it. Might take some practice because it’s not necessary to slam ur foot to play in time right? So I am learning to adjust my finesse :)
Thanks Em and 'HI' from Australia. Thanks for the info and comparisons. I am new to Looping. In Thinking long term, should I purchase the RC300 or the RC600? Your advice would be greatly appreciated.THANK YOU
Hey Matthew! I bet you the rc-300s are going to be very affordable these days. Especially used! Couldn’t hurt to try on the 300. It’s a great pedal! 600 does have better sound quality, and effects. Id say those are the only areas where it’s superior to the 300. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the comparison! can't wait to get mine in the mail!
Congrats! It’s got a lot of stuff to dive into, but really fun. Excited for you :)
Awesome presentation. I still have the RC 300 but thinking to get the 600.
The 300 is great just a little behind in terms of sound quality. Definitely a little learning curve transitioning my brain to. A new pedal haha
Interesting! I decided to program my undo/redo as my input FX toggle button. Right now i have it set to the bass/lower octave effect.
Oh that’s cool! I’d love to see it in action!
Im a fulltime musician, been using an RC300 since it came out10/11 years ago. Just bought a RC600, Im tech savey, but this thing has alot going on and I wanna start gigging with it asap. Your vids are by faaarrrr the best on the the net. Thanks sista, your a legend....
Oh snap that is a real compliment! I was so used to the 300. It felt like another instrument to me. Definitely a little learning curve with this one, but I’m sure you’ll be able to hit the ground and running and figure out as you go. I’m interested to hear how you decide to set yours up! Really nice to meet you :)
I love this video, Emily! It's really going to help a lot of people who are interested in this new pedal. Thank you for doing this comparison!
Aww thanks friend! Even as I was editing this first comparison, I am discovering new things. So I’ll have to make some supplements as I go along! Thanks for checking it out 🥰🥰🥰
Yes so so helpful thank you so much as I'm going to take my first looper purchase soon ! Thanks Emily!
Thanks! just what I’ve been looking for, a great comparison👏🏻
Oh good! I wa so accustomed to the 300, I definitely feel like I’m always comparing to that. This was pretty early on. Might need an update on how it’s been for the past few months now that I’m more acclimated to this one
This video confirms my suspicions......nobody makes a looper the way I would. I sometime wonder if the designers are players or performers at all. Live performance functionality is way more important than features to me personally.
Love what you do, and take inspiration from your performances. - Cheers
Aww Joe! Love hearing this. And I kind of agree. It’s filled with so many flashy features, when the bread and butter needs to be so simple. I’m interested in how you do things? Tell me about ur music!
6:38 So true, effects need to be assignable as to
be readily available, instantaneously, there are
numerous times, often within one song where an
exaggerated delay for example,
or a specialty effect is needed,
'we' need to be able to add and end an effect
in an instant, where called for.
Totally. I think there aren’t enough switches. I dont really like shuffling through pedal modes if i can help it…
@@EmilyMcVicker Thanks for the replies!
It will be interesting to see where all
this 'looper' tech takes us, where it goes
from here, loopers are taking on
the appearance of processors, and
processors have long been attempting.
to take on the role of loopers, lol.
The issues that you raised are things
that also would concern me, I hope,
you get this pedal sorted to the
point where it covers all the bases
for you.
I may opt for the RC500, I only need
to lay down simple rhythm tracks
and use the onboard drums,
but I need wav or mp3 export to my
laptop which I think the 500 has.
The older RC30's weren't acceptable
to me due to the terrible sound
quality of recording loops vs guitar
quality, if I went for great guit quality
sound, the looped track
would be compromised and/or,
visa versa, I think it was 24 bit rate,
hopefully the newer 32 bit solves that issue.
I'm all done with Boss loopers and their antiquated small screen menu diving... Got rid of my RC-600 for a Headrush Looperboard... Huge improvement in ease of use and workflow...
Sounds like a good move for you! The Boss screens are super tiny ….😔
Yes, now if only they had the same reliability I would agree. With the RC-600, you set it up at home and gig with it when its done being setup. You Can NOT create a workflow on stage.
I just bought a 300 for 200 bucks. I'm enjoying it. Thanks for the tips.
Good job! Great price, great pedal! You’re gonna love it 🙌🙌🙌
Very helpful. I have RC-300 for around 10 years, now thinking to switch to RC600, your video helped. I like your thinking about pros and cones...
There are some strong pros and still some cons. I hope they iron out the firmware in the 600 so that it works for everyone. Still feels like it’s a bit of a work in progress. But I’ve stuck with it and like some of the new things it can do
Thanks for all the work that went into this video! I've been thinking of upgrading from an RC-30 into an RC-300 and initially thought the RC-600 was too complicated vs. the three pedals on the RC-300, but I think your video just changed my mind.
Oh nice! Ya you can totally do it!
Reverb and dealt big issues. Please how can I fix the below. I am an ambient music creator. Having the rc Reverb and delay on monitor/input signal means the fade out tail is cut when a loop is recorded. However. Track fix are not applied to monitor/input signal, only a loop once it’s recorded on the respective track. So how do have a long deep reverb or delay on my vocals that I can loop and not have the tail cut of in the loop??? In a recording DAW this is easy achieved by a send return. Both loop and input signal use the same verb/delay. Why is the internet not talking more about, as far as I can tell, there can’t be a same reverb on input and loop that isn’t cut off in the loop end. as far as I can tell input rc reverb and delay is useless because it can’t translate to a loop and the track fx do not occur in input signals?
Hey. Couple ideas. We all have to design how we want the tools to work for us. Maybe you wait to stop recording til it captures the whole reverb tail. Sounds like you’re using input FX - could you try track FX?
Heyyyy Emily! Love your videos! I’ve been using the RC-30 and always wanted to upgrade to RC-300, but now this new baby got me by surprise… Can’t wait to see more of it!! Keep being amazing! 👏💜
Oh awesome Rafa! It works in your favor that they are making these features better and better. I just heard there an update to claim. We’re living in a world of tech now haha
@@EmilyMcVicker hell yeah!!! We gotta make the best with what we have! Can't wait to get my hands (and feet) on the RC-600, but it will take quite some time for it to get to Brazil and it will surely be really expensive!! Thank youuu 💜💜💜
I'm in the market for either of these pedals, and found your video to be both intertaining and informative. I also love your voice! You got a new subscriber.
Benjamin you’re a sweetheart! Thanks for saying hi and I’m so glad you’re digging the videos :)
I am so glad I found this channel! I have an RC300 but I only use 10% of it at a few shows. I definitely need to jump into it! Thanks for this comparison.
Oh ya! The 300 is a great pedal!
I have some some song breakdown videos using the 300 that you might like! Let me know if they inspire you!
@@EmilyMcVicker I’ll go check them out! I am loving the content in your channel, you are such a talented musician and very creative in your loop performances
This is great! I am sure other have commented- I am new to the rehlm of looping. I do a lot of solo acoustic shows and would like to add depth with looping. I plan on utilizing my gigs with looping - would you recommend just goin' with the RC-600 or start from scratch with the RC-1 or similarly a good start with the RC-300? Thank you for your response.
Great video and content. I look forward to more.
Hey Miguel! You know, the 600 or the 300 would be great for you. But they are different sizes and that might be something to consider with any current pedal set up you’re working with. The 300 works so great. But the 600 does have such a clearer sound and higher bitrate and all that. Those would be the biggest factors to consider. If you wanna loop vocals and more than just guitar, I would not recommend any single track loopers like the RC-1 because you’ll grow out of it too fast. That’s my 2 cents :)
Lemme know how it goes!
@@EmilyMcVicker great info - went ahead and snagged the RC-600. I'm pumped. Thanks for the information - keep jammin' and keep up the stellar content. YeeYEE
I swapped my track select switch, and all start/Stop buttons. So the start/stop is on the left, and track select is on the right. And I also did what Katie Dwyer said and changed the Undo/Redo to turn on an effect.
Yes! I need to order a label maker and I think I’m gonna copy you! ❤️👍 brilliant!
Love that I found this... wanted to ask you exactly all these questions on your Twitch streams but obviously this format you can give the more in depth answers I was looking for about the RC-600. Cheers Emily! :D
Oh yes!!! Thank you so much for coming by! If you have some specific questions, let me know :)
Hi Emily love your videos at the moment I have the 300 and have barely used it but it definitely seems gig able my bro brought the 600 and didn't like it
I'm figuring I stick with the 300 cos I got no cash and when I can afford it go with the aeros gold looper cos I use the Beat buddy
Really appreciate your input
Thanks sooo much you're so inspiring
Thankyou stevo x
Auuuugggh! Boss keeps making better and better looper stations! I cant keep up! Thanks for this video😮
Yep! Stepping up the game!
Started using the RC-300 expression pedal to fade and now I’m wondering if I’ll miss it when I upgrade to the 600. Might be getting a mini volume pedal after all..🫤
Oh interesting. I never used the expression pedal on the 300, but the 600 is so much smaller, adding one will be just about the same. It’ll just be more expensive 😬😬😬 but it if works the way you want it, it’ll be worth it!
@@EmilyMcVicker yeah, I don’t think I’m going to do that right away. I can’t justify the volume pedal right now cause I didn’t use it enough on the 300. We shall see!
Love your vibe and this video, thanks Emily - very helpful!!
Oh excellent!! Glad to hear it! 🤘😆❤️
Hi Loopers, I have loved my RC-30. I want to add 1 more track. Will the 600 be user friendly and act like the RC-30 ? I don't need the effects or anything else. Just play a phrase, click, it repeats, then on to track 2 I go. Can I expect this simplicity from the 600 ? Sure would appreciate your thoughts. THX !
Hey! Yes you can absolutely use simply like this. It will also have A LOT more options for you to explore if you feel like it
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you for your reply. You are so talented !
Great clip, Emily. A good help for people like me, who want to start with with looping on a more professional level. Iwill follow you for more tutorials. By the way ... i don't care if you put the two looper together, since I only will buy one of them ... better use your time for more instructional stuff ....thanks a lot and greez from Germany. 😊
Hey! Okay good to know 😜 ya I’d definitely recommend for someone who has played w loopers before. Might be a little more challenging for beginners. Still be good, but could take more time getting comfortable
Super helpful, thank you. Glad I recently came across your channel and found another serious live looper.
Yay! Glad to hear it Marc :) thanks for writing!
Thanks for the video, for me is helpful ! I m thinking if buy the RC600...
Glad you enjoyed! Would it be your first looper or are you adapting from another pedal?
@@EmilyMcVicker thanks for your answer! I had the rc3 and rc30, greetings from Spain ♡
u can program any colors u want into any light and there are many colors to choose from
Yes!!! Thank you!
I played a festival last weekend with an outdoor stage and I could hardly see any colors at all lol… but that’s true if any guitar pedals I think
Thanks- Great video - I was considering getting the rc 600 - But you totally convinced me to stik with the rc 300 ❤ - Did not even know they made a rc 900😅 🙏🤘
Great video! Do you know which power bank I can use for busking with the Rc-600? Thanks!
Hey! That’s a great question! I have the green VOLT power bank I had been using with the 300, but you just brought to my attention that it won’t work with this new one 😅. Which is too bad cuz I like the Volt! Maybe there is a new adapter that could let it plug in
Thanks for that Demo. I hope Boss takes your upgrade advice, they should.
Thanks friend! I hope so too. I keep adding to my list of suggestions for them haha
you may get to this later in the video, but there's a different mode for the mode selector button. I hate having to wait to use the 3rd mode, so I changed the mode to the incremental one, instead of the default click between 1/2 and hold for effects on 3. easier just to click through them 1-2-3-1... need to update that button on all 3 modes to get it accomplished
sorry that wasn't clear. pedal mode inc is the setting you can swap out on pedal 7 if you want to use the effects... or... use the setup I created... one mode which lets you record and stop the target track, buttons to inc/dec target track, and the rest of the buttons for input effects so you can quickly cycle between effects while recording across different tracks, and not have to leave the mode. Gaaah I'm such a geek. I love these loopers!
Ah yes I hear ya! I get into this on my next video. Still editing :) thanks for the tips! I agree about the holding. I might add some expression pedal supplements as well
About the volume knob trick (8:51) - I know some musicians that turn the knobs on their pedals from the side of the knob.
For example, it's relatively common with some classic MXR pedals (they come with a dedicated rubber knob cover).
Do you think a similar method can works with the output knob located on the top left side of the Boss RC-600?
Good idea! I’d have to try :)
I really appreciate how much effort you put into making this video. Thanks!!!
Aww friend! You’re so kind to say that. I hope to keep getting better the more I make. Thanks for checking it out ❤️
Hey I just started to use expression on rc300 for fade out
Oh nice 🤙🤙🤙
I met you at the SEA Airport a few years ago, you were performing (fantastically!) using the RC 300 looper. I was looking to buy an RC 600 and happened across your vid here. So glad to see you're doing great, and I'm in for the 600.
Oh holy smokes! What a small world. That was such a lovely gig at the airport. I used to be there about once a week. Super sweet of you to write ❤️ keep in touch my friend!
I was just at seatac airport an hour ago, no idea you were from the area
You could always put the sustain pedal on the right side of the 600 and work backwards starting with loop 3 and work down. Did it all the time with the 300 because of where the expression pedal and effects button were located.
That would also help with hitting the nob on the track 3
oh thats a really good idea! might have to try that. for some reason that sounds lefthanded to me haha but kind of a brilliant work around. just have to change my habits
Yeah! Go RC-900! Great video...I have the RC-300 and recently got the 505MKII! This works great! You can get a pedal board like the Airstep and fix all your problems with the 505MKII.
Oh! That’s great to know!! Thank you 🤘😆 what pedal did you get to supplement?
Good Job, looked it till the end :D -- Is the harmonizer able to hamonize in the scale I gave him (importend for especially the third...) or did he always harmonize the same Interval ?
Yea! You can chose if you want the harmony above or the harmony below the voice. Click the > to go to the next page of options
@@EmilyMcVicker thx, but that's not what I like to know ... I mean if we are in Cmaj, does it make a major third on a C and a minor third on a A for example.. ?
Did you manage to figure out a way around the issues mentioned? I.E the clearing tracks, accessing effects faster etc?
Yes! I designated a switch that I put on pedal mode three that clears all the tracks with one click. And in practice, I’m finding I don’t actually use much of the effects. Just because in a performance, I am so much more focused on my singing and connecting with the audience, that I personally just don’t use them. But if I did, I would put them on a FS6 so that they’d be readily accessible. Or I would just use extra guitar pedals. I don’t love the pedal modes because I don’t like all the clicking around during performance. That’s my experience.
@@EmilyMcVicker Ahh interesting thanks for your reply. I have the rc300 but and on the fence whether to upgrade. I use the bass effect a lot but quite like the look of the harmony effect. In your experience is it worth the upgrade? I quite like that you can have different length tracks as it means less time building drum tracks.. Plus the smaller size! Looks like a pain to set up though.
@@EmilyMcVicker Also you mentioned in a vid that the colours on the switches are a pain as they are very similar.. Has this affected performance in live situations? I am a bit colourblind
About the voice effects, does the RC600 have auto harmony?
Yep! I demonstrate it a little in my input FX video. It sounds similar to their other harmony pedals. I dont use it myself, but it’s there 👍
@@EmilyMcVicker OK. Thank you very much for your attention.
I am new to looping. And I am ready to purchase one. Would you suggest I start with the RC 300? I do like the foot pedal design.
the 300 has a much simpler lay out. But I think you’re okay starting w 600. Mainly cuz it sounds so much better with the higher but rates and all that. The tricky part for you is deciding what you want the pedal to do for you without the prior experience. I say start somewhere and tweak as u go - that’s my moto!
@@EmilyMcVicker thank you!!!!
Thank you for the video, I own a Digitech for simple jobs and the 300 witch I like, I was curious about the 600, maybe you can answer my question, I'm looking to be more efficient on the synch of the loop, I play Brazilian Latin music so a lot of upbeat grooves, I like to start the loop with percussion so Im wondering of the 600 are able to detect the tempo (quantize without ruining ..lol) then play right away so I can add more stuff... thanks in advance, thumbs up up up and you got a new sub... :)
Hey! Your music sounds awesome! Yep 600 can do it just like the 300 👍
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you for your compliment about my music, and thank you for your feedback about the loops, I'll definitely consider to get a 600 soon!
Looking forward to being able to catch a stream soon to hear it in action with requests. It's nice to see the progression.
Internet is such a blessing jejeje I just found out about your channel because of looking at this pedal in sweatwater's page... I recently got my car stolen and it had the RC-300 lost with it, so' I was looking getting a new looper and I think I'm going with this one. I loved this review and am looking forward to knowing more about your music and loops and hopefully learning from your music. I hope you are doing good, greetings from Puerto Rico. - José Eduardo Santana
José! Im so sorry that happened to you! I would absolutely recommend the 600. It takes a while to switch over and get used to a new lay out (at least for me!) but it sounds great and I’m glad I switched
@@EmilyMcVicker thank you for taking the time and replying! I did bought it and even though I've barely scratched the surface, the sound quality is way better and it still feels friendly even though there is a difference in the stomp buttons. I'm having a great time knowing it, just practicing with it and watching lots of videos to get the best out of it. Nice to meet you, keep on the awesomeness.
@@joseduardomusic Don't leave it in the car this time!!!
Do you think the bass, delay and harmony effects are the three best effects on the looper?
I dunno “best” 🤷♀️ they are all quality sounding. In my case, I would judge based on practicality. For my style, I like to have an acoustic vibe, but there are some FX that can suit that like reverb and delay. For an a cappella vibe, the bass and harmony can be good (if the Harmonizer gets the parts where u want) but often that is not a need of mine. Many of the Fx are kind of gimmicky, but there’s an artful way to use gimmicks. Just depends on the performer.
@@EmilyMcVicker thanks for the reply. I’d love a video on the reverb, as that is the effect I think I’d use the most. On the rc300 the reverb could only be added to the whole memory slot (all 3 tracks and the drums) I’m assuming the reverb can be put on a single track and doesn’t affect drums?
Hello. I have a problem. I bought a new Boss RC 600 looper. On my computer I have songs made on my old Boss RC 50 looper. How do I make the RC 50 wav files work on the RC 600? Because so far the RC 600 looper shows the message FILE NOT SUPPORTED. And I have a lot of trouble, because there are 10 songs that are not easy. RC 600 wav file and RC 50 wav file. But in the RC 50 I mostly have MONO files, or is that a problem? And some settings need to be made .. tips. Please. I have a recital in a few days ..
awesome 👌
I'm wondering if you know how to set the looper in this way. I've tried heaps but can't quite get there.
Bank 1 loop set to me dialing in a short locked in drum beat so I only need to play it short as poss.
I then want to lock in a loop in bank 2 say for 12 bars.
I want to add another part in bank 3 and for that to be locked in with bank 2 bars.
I feel this free loop doesn't make the banks 2&3 tight enough. I want bank three to come in after recording at the same loop length as I've recorded in bank 2.
Ah i think I understand. Have you tried hitting record on the next track before track 3 has finished playing????
I need to make a video on this. Little complicated to write. But let me know how it goes if you go straight to recoding next track. Or if you’re saying something else, please correct me
Very nice singing!!!! Wow. Can you export the recorded loops to ableton or any DAW after?
Thank you! And yes you can! 🙌
Love the boots. Yes, I am all for hearing the 300 and the 600 together a bizzallen peddles. As with anything new, it's a learning curve can't wait to see how you developed new muscle memory with the 600 and listen to you playing live. As always love hearing how you create music from songs you write yourself to covers.
I borrowed some supplemental pedals from CJ so I can have my cake and eat it too :) mega pedal! Haha
Not sure if I. Going to sell RC 300 or not
I play bass and guitar, and I'm looking to perform with a looper which I can use with both instruments without having to run everything into a single channel in the PA. In other words, I'd like to play my bass through the bass amp, and guitar through the guitar amp, while leaving free PA channels for drums from the looper and live vocals. So far I've tried to make do with a Ditto X2. The RC600 seems like the answer to my prayers, but could I get away with something less elaborate?
Interesting. So you still wanna play through amps first, but mic them to go into the looper?
Sounds like the 600 would actually make it set up simpler. I don’t know how many other pedals you might be using with ur loops, but it does have the two xlr inputs and it sounds like you could use them. Unless ur amps have a signal out you could plug into the 1/4” inputs
Nice video Emily. It will help when my Rc600 arrives. I will probably use my voicelive-play-gtx for vocal effects.
Oh cool! That machine has nice effects. I like the effects on the 600, just need to access them a little quicker! Trying to decide how I’m gonna do that
@@EmilyMcVicker I'd be following your video's. There're very nice and instructive. Thanks
I am a beginner at looping so would the Boss RC 600 be a good peddle to get and do my shows with ?
Hey Steven! Im sure you would succeed at any pedal you choose if you practice. I think you might love the rc300 tho if you’re just starting. For me the biggest hurdle to the 600 is the customizable stuff and deciding what you want to do with it. So when you’re just starting and you might not know what you’re gonna need.
I used the 300 for years and it’s great 👍
The single play feature does not work in the same way on the Boss RC-600 as it does on the Boss RC-300. If you want the recorded tracks to be played in sequence (for example track 1 is the verse, track 2 is the chorus and track 3 is the bridge) things get messed up on the Boss RC-600 if the different tracks have different lengths. The Boss RC-300 doesn't have this issue while almost all other Boss loopers on the market are also having this issue (I got confirmation from users having a Boss RC-500, and both the Boss RC-505 mk1 and mk2).
I'm not sure about that in the case of the Boss RC-500. I think there may be an obscure setting (maybe LOOP_SYNC, possible in conjunction with one or two others) buried in the Parameter Guide available as a PDF but which does not come with the pedal. Then again, I only just got a new RC-500 so I may be in for an unpleasant surprise.
@@WVNicholson Would be great if you find a way to get it done on the RC-500. Then I can convince Boss support with extra arguments..
Interesting. Ya I don’t use single mode much because I prefer to sing and play at the same time and not pre-record each section. There are definitely some differences between them, but when you find the work around, let me know how it goes!
@@EmilyMcVicker the workaround is setting loop sync to on while recording the single tracks and setting loop sync to off when playing back the single tracks (keep in mind that the loop sync of a single track that is being played can not be changed, it has to be stopped before changing it). For the Boss RC-505 mk2 there are shortcuts to do this (pressing the track button 3 times will lead you to the right screen, then you can press the third knob to change the loop sync setting).
Hopefully Boss can alter this behaviour in their next firmware update. On the Boss RC-300 the loop sync can stay off for all single tracks both during recording and playback which is far more convenient.
Another workaround is setting rec quantize setting from measure to off and tempo sync to off for all single tracks (but then the internal rhythm or metronome of the looper can not be used). In that way it doesn't even matter what value the loop sync setting has, it doesn't have to be changed at all.
I have a question about sending BPM signal to a drummer's headphones or into Laptop (with Ableton): how to synchronize a loop station and drummer or Ableton?
That’s a great question. I haven’t gotten quite that deep. But I would mix one of the sub outputs to be for drummer and design their mic that way. I am interested to know how the midi and ableton would work with it.
Keep in touch!
Hi, awesome video thanks. Do you think you can make a comparison between the drum system from the RC-10r and the RC-600, is it the same? How good are the drums in the RC-600
Hey! Hmm I don’t have an rc-10 and I’m not really a big user of the pre-programmed drum tracks. I do know that the ones here in the 600 are the newest and sound the cleanest and with more options. But if you like the ones in the rc-10, that’s great!
Could you please explain more about the Harmonies? Can you chose higher or lower? Do they sound natural? Thanks🙏☺️
hey! YES! in the FX section, when you pick harmony, there are options when you go into the effect. so when you go to the input FX, click on one and scroll through. when you get to either of the two harmony options, there's a digital dial next to it where you can chose if you want higher or lower, or unison. they sound pretty good for fake harmonies. If you're familiar with my stuff, you know i like to record my own. but i know others use digital harmony and it's not terrible.
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you so much for your answer! Just discovered your channel and I love it. I started using the RC300 for my gigs last year where I use Keyboard and guitar. I usually used 2 mic stands with 2 mics (One for the main vocals connected to the mixing desk) and the other one to the looper for backing vocals etc. Do you also do it like that or why do you need 2 mics on your gigs? Thanks very much in advance🙏🙏 I am trying to make my gigs as light as possible because I carry too many things haha
Hi Emily, is it possible to use this only with headphones? I have a guitar+bass setup that I would like to use only with headphones or monitors, also no guitar or bass amp
Thanks!! Very nice video
Yes! There’s a headphones input right on the pedal. It just requires a bigger 1/4” jack
Great video! I’m sticking with the 300. It’s more pedal than I really need anyway
The 300 is great 👍
I'm in a cover band. We don't have a rhythm player. What I need is the ability to play the rhythm part of any song when I start the lead. For instance, we're doing La Grange by ZZ Top. Ok, the lead starts, but there's also the rhythm guitar playing in the background. What I would like to do is have the rhythm part play while I play the lead solo, but I DON'T need it to loop after its finished playing. Can the RC 600 do this?
Ya you can set it to do that. You can also turn off the loop at anytime in the phrase with your foot 👍
@@EmilyMcVicker If I'm not mistaken, isn't there a way to turn off the loop in a track? Like you only want it to play once, but not loop?
not only ou are the most enthousiastic and creative looper supporter, but you also have the coolest miniskirts! wish I was a girl to copy your outfits!😁
Awwww Lucio! You’re too sweet, you make me smile 😊😊😊 gotta love a good mini skirt!!!! Go for it!
@@EmilyMcVicker it would be a terrible view on me, actually!😄
Nice informative Vid! I saw on one of JohnPaul Music UK vids that you can change the track select switch to cycle through each mode with a single click for faster access to the effects. I have my RC 600 coming on Wednesday. I’m excited. Been watching your stuff for inspiration.
Oh awesome thank you! Yes I finally figured it out this morning, someone in a nice Facebook forum helped me out with that. I love the teamwork! Thank you for your comment and I’m so glad you enjoy the videos :-)
I still can’t work out how to turn effects on and off for each track. Not overly detailed manual and I hope you can cover how to set this up at some stage? Thanks
Ah yes. I haven’t even gotten that far yet. It’s gonna be in the routing stuff. My next video, I’ll try to define some terms and set up basics that might be helpful. I’m trying to learn a bit at a time. Pretty soon we’ll have it figuee to d out!
I have a question 🙋♂️
As an example , Let’s say you have recorded guitar parts on 3 different tracks
Can I turn these on and off at any time just by pressing on the main buttons at the bottom or do I have to press the track select button to move over to a specific track before I can turn it on or or off ?
Yes! If they are on tracks 1,2,&3, you can just turn them on and off with the buttons on the bottom. Super accessible.
The only time it can get a little more button tappy is if you also record in tracks 4,5&6 because would would have to switch to pedal mode 2 in that case. That’s why I usually mainly stick to one pedal mode.
@@EmilyMcVicker thanks for the reply 🙂
Can it be setup like the rc 300 ? You know how the rc300 has 3 tracks and 2 buttons per track for play/rec and stop ?
I’m just looking for something super simple to do parallel recording and turning tracks on and off and overdubbing etc as easy as possible.
YES, of course we want to see what happens when link both loop stations together :) Great discussion!
Haha i might be more compelled to link my 600 to the 505. Potential video in the works! 😜👍
How has the stability of the RC 600 been for you? I have heard so many reports of crashes and freezes. It has kept me from pulling the trigger and upgrading.
Hard to say. Did you see my video about firmware? Seems like everyone’s use case is so different, what works for some doesn’t work always for others. I am still in the original firmware it came with. The updates made it freeze for me. So I went back and it works fine for me 👍
@@EmilyMcVicker I have not seen it but I will take a look. Thank you for responding and for putting out such high quality content. You are appreciated!
you can change up what the 4 switches all do... may be helpful to put the memory jog switch in the 2nd slot and something a little less dramatic if accidentally pressed in knob number 1. I hooked up my 505Mk2 to my 600 via Midi and it's an absolute blast to play it all together. The FX and bounce-features are where this thing shines.
These are great ideas! Thank you!
i Wonder, if i can assign different rhythms to different Tracks? and Play Tracks subsequently (Change at loop end).please let me know
Oh interesting. I don’t use the subsequent loops myself. But I bet you can. I might look into that and see how that would work
So.. on the old RC-300 I only use the bass effect. I have assigned the effects button to the bass effect and when pressed, it is immediate (without holding the button down) for recording on any track - (very easy to quickly record a baseline). Is it possible to create this same scenario on the RC-600 except assign 1 button for the bass effect and another button for the harmony effect? My thoughts are to assign the "Track select" button for the bass effect and the "undo/redo" button for the harmony effect. Is this possible and if so, how do you assign these 2 specific tracks and have the chosen effect work immediately upon pressing on all the other channels which are assigned for recording?
Ya you can totally do that 👍 you can do all the switch assignments the same way. In the pedal modes, you just have to go to the specific switch on the pedal mode of your choosing and scroll through all the options it can do. So you can assign any switch to be the bass FX. You’ll assign bass to one of the input FX (ABCD) and then tell the switch to use that input FX on that switch 🤘😆
Were you able to figure a way to get to the effects section quicker? I switched the track select to just cycle through tracks 1-3, tracks, 3-6 and effects on/off, with a single tap for each. Ie from track 1-3, tap twice and you are now accessing effects.
Yes! I did that too and u like it better. Still it would be nice to have the effects even more readily available. I got an FS-6 that I am adding. And it can coordinate with the effects I’ve picked. I probably don’t need crazy effects, but a couple simple ones will make a big impact. I just need to be able to get to them at any time
Could you swap out the dials with more foot friendly options? Or rubberized them in some way if they're just not grippy enough?
I am hearing about some here in the comments. But I don’t have first hand experience using them yet 🤷♀️. Yes more grippy would be more better 👍
This was very helpful - thanks Emily!
Oh awesome! Glad to hear it Lindsey! Working it out one bit at a time :)
I'm wondering maybe to take care of that miss hitting the button is maybe have bigger pads on a looping buttons like you had on the 300. I was wondering maybe you can change the colour assignment or maybe have a polarizer lens on the light to make them more colour distinctive.
Those are great ideas! I just found how to customize the lights. But, you know, I think I might be able to change the knob functions. And even moving that knob over to any of the others would help. It is on the list of things I’m trying to find!
Yes you must do a video with both units combined. lol… I just got a Donner Circle looper pedal, I haven’t hooked it up yet but I’m new to this one man band thing and this one has a drum machine on one side and looper on the other side with separate volume controls and 40 spots to save tracks at 4min each 160mins total. Plus a bunch more features I’m forgetting about at the moment. I have a RC3 but the day I brought it home I knocked it off of my amp and broke the volume knob off. All these gadgets cost a lot of money and it never ends with advanced technology. I’m a gear junky so I gotta feed the monster gas monkey as well. lol… thank you and I’m a new sub to your channel. 🎸🤓🎸☮️🇺🇸
Oh interesting. How do you like Donner gear? They just reached out to me so maybe I’ll get to try some of their stuff :)
@@EmilyMcVicker
You should definitely check them out, they seem to be coming of age, so to speak. I think they recently came out with an multieffects unit named Arena so it sounds to me like they are chasing the helix and whatever the others are but within reasonable pricing. The circle looper (I want to call it circle jerk so bad) lol, is very, very, good imo. Really easy to navigate and extremely functional for looper rookies like me. If your timing is off on other loopers you’re loop is off too. This one somehow compensates for timing issues and syncs up with the drum machine side like magic. So you don’t sound like a noob starting out. lol it has all the other features loopers have and maybe more than what other loopers offer. Sorry for carrying on for so long, I can get gear geeky with the best of em. lol take care
How many fx can you apply at a time for an input
You can apply 4 input FX and 4 track FX. And you also decide if you want it on some inputs some tracks, or all. Lots of combinations
Can't wait!!
Thanks Gates & Goodell! You guys rock 🤘
2 questions
1: have you found out how to route the mic from the looper into the desk? (No longer needing 2 mics)
2: do daws like logic pro x recognize this as an audio interface for Recording? (Not just storing and saving loops)
Hey! Thanks for the questions. at this time, i'm stil plugging my lead singer mic t(the SM7b) direct, and using my separate mic for loop mic into the rc-600. still ahve some playing around to do i think. not sure that the looper will have a powerful enough pre-amp for an SM7b. HOWEVER, i still see myself only using one mic, but possibly routing my interface back into the looper, so that one mic can still go direct, and ALSO be used for looping. i have some trial and error ahead of me
That would work well. That beta is a great mic to use for looping. I have one as well. Thank you for your reply.
After you mess around a little let me know if it acts as an audio interface for recording. It would be great if it could supersede my current one. Thanks again
Also the routing trick would work will with your condenser but would be a little trickier in a live situation. My 600 arrives soon and i’ll let you know what i learn
To access your effects without holding the effects button for 2 seconds you can set up the button to just cycle through (pushing once for your next set of loops, another press for your effects; rather than the 2 second hold, and once more for your initial 3 loops
Pro, no holding, quicker access to affects
Con, an additional press to toggle between your six loops rather than just toggling back and forth between loop bank 1 and 2
Good luck
I am still trying to compare VE 20. VE 200. The RC500 600. I started investigating VE20 as a way adding light effects to my vocal performances in my band, solo etc. I love the idea of getting into looping. my question is if my priority is the effect am I better off with a specialist peddle say EV20
I think with this new pedal, the sound quality is good. I say use ur other pedals with it and i bet it will still sound great.👍
Great video, they make XLR foot switches in order to use one mic but it’s tricky I tried a few ways but I had to use a mic pre amp. I wonder if the 600 has a EQ for micing in.
Oh interesting! Yes the mike has its own EQ on the 300. I’m only using one of mic inputs at the moment
Why did you not choose the LooperBoard from HeadRush ? I think 🤔 it's a great and huge looper...
It's only my taste and a question.
What do you think ?
Phil from Dunkirk
Hey Phil! Good questions! I just interviewed a talented friend of mine about their experience with the Headrush. They had used a bunch of loopers and the headrush was also their favorite. It is huge isn’t it! Powerful, but kind of gigantic. I personally kinda like the smaller version, as long as I can get it to do all the things I need. I loved the rc-300 so I figured this one would be a good upgrade. It is an upgrade and a lot more tricks than I had previously envisioned. Sounds like you’re super happy with your headrush looper, eh?
One of the first things I did on my 600 was make it so I don't have to long press to get to the FX mode. You can totally make it a tap instead of press to get to that mode.
Yes I agree! I am maybe looking to make the Fx on a supplement pedal so they are always accessible. I agree the long press isn’t very practical. Quick access is key!
Great review, Emily. Thank you!
My pleasure! Thanks for checking it out!
What advantages are there for you using the rc600 instead of the rc505 MKii ?
The main one is just that it’s a foot one. I bet the 505s could be good when I’m at home. But when I’m playing out and just have a guitar, I kind of needed that didn’t require hands. Do you use the 505?
I’m very interested in just messing around at home with loopers. I wondered the same thing, any ideas if the mkii is still easy to control when playing guitar? I’m thinking the 600 is still better overall…Great video!
@@garywaddell6309 they have the same computer inside. so the main question for the user is if they want to use feet or hands. as a guitar player, might be tricky to use hands. Maybe keys players could do well with either. but these two new ones have the exact same features inside
Hi Emily. Greetings from Colombia, thanks for your videos. I want to ask you. it is possible to record the independent instruments. I can sing and play the guitar at the same time and only record the voice. it is something that cannot be done in the rc 300.
You definitely can do that. I haven’t dig too deep into the rotting options yet. But I know you can. You d root guitar separate out C one of the Suboutputs. But if you didn’t want to loop it at all, I would bíparas looper an And go direct into whatever system you’re using. Am I answering the right question?
I had the RC1 and still the RC3 and am currently using the RC300. What I really miss is the feature the RC1 has. Loop length lights. You always new where you were in the loop. I do long loops so that is something I miss on the 300. After a little checking I see where the 600 has gone back to that. I have one of these in my shopping cart now.
Sounds like you might prefer a different ‘play screen’ have you scrolled through to see? I like the 3rd one that shows each loop length in the shape of a dial. I found this screen to be really helpful!
Let me know how it goes!
@@EmilyMcVicker I can do that on the 300?
Ok, so... First of all great video. I love how you explain and break things down. So explain me this. LOL. When you are looping up a harmony or any stacked vocal loop, how do you keep your other tracks being played back from bleeding in to your looper on the 300 or 600? I have the 300 current and I'm on the fence big time on upgrading!!! Thank you. I will subscribe and await your reply...
Hey Phillip! Great question. At home, it’s easy cuz I have in ear monitors. At actual gigs it can be tough if you have wedges. I have started using IEMs for live gigs as well. But if you don’t have them yet, you gotta be strategic about how loud your monitors are and the direction they are pointing. And each space is different.
Since I’ve been bringing my IEMs to live shows, my next video will be about routing for gigs. I think it will be useful!
@@EmilyMcVicker Thank you. Yes routing will be super helpful!! I see you are using 2 mics and I never loop vocal because I'm always concerned about bleed from a loop track vocal mic when I open up a track to even record just a guitar part. The mic then becomes hot and introduces the bleed and creates a volume increase. Seems like some people use a gate until they are ready to actually use the 2nd mic? Ugh, too many pedals causes me to look down too much, sing out of tune and miss parts.
Thx ! A small question. How can I add a drum rhythm to a track that only starts by pushing pedal 3 (e.g) ?
Ah yes! I am planning a rhythm demo very soon! I like ur idea. I often put my percussion on a track of its own. I am a beatboxer and use hand percussion for it but I think I know what you’re envisioning. Curious to figure out more with the rhythm tracks!
Great video Emily, I just got my 600 2 days ago and I’m having issues I was wondering if you’ve ever had. I’ll set the BPM manually, start FunkDrummer on iOS, click in/out and I’m finding that the 600 is changing the BPM to the timing of my foots clicks. It’s only by +/- .1 to .3 out but as you know, it isn’t going to stay in time with the beat for long. I don’t know any loop fanatic that can nail the beat consistently everytime. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hey Anthony, hmm ya it’s super important that the beat is good. So when u set the beat at the beginning, do you have a click in your ear to keep you on the tempo that you pre-set? I admit I don’t have experience pre-setting tempos. My trick to doing percussion in loops is keep it simple and short so the time doesn’t accordion itself and the song can have a good feel.
@@EmilyMcVicker in perfect timing, they just released the firmware update for my issue. Thank you for your reply Emily. Now I can use the 600 with midi sync and there's not any loop stretching/strange sounds coming from it. Lol it was apparently a bug that they fixed with this update. Happy looping!
My oh my This takes time to wrap my head around it
Oh weird. That sounds serious 😳 might need to consult the store you got it from or a Roland rep for that one. I don’t keep anything saved on mine. But I know it has many hours of memory so it sounds like something is really wrong
@@EmilyMcVicker solved my stupidity shhh
Love this vid!
My guitarist brain is telling me to suggest the 'Cusack pedal cracker', and build a small board for your effects. I just purchased my first multi track looper and I'm thrilled to find you as resource!
Oh that’s awesome! What looper did you choose? I will have to look up that cusack pedal cracker device 👍
@@EmilyMcVicker I'm doing the ehx 95000 for now, its MIDI works with my Mod-Rex really well because they're the same company
Thank you for this!
I was going to buy an RC 500 to do live sound healing and performing with a duo, but a tech friend said that the 300 would be better for that.
But now having watched this I’m wondering if I should get the 600 ?
Any one know the difference between the 500 and the 600?
🙏🏻
The main difference to me would be the physical lay out. I heard some buggy things about the 500 and wasn’t tempted at all. He nice thing about the 300 and the 600 is the buttons are layer out and accessible. So you can play without fiddling with ur hands. The 600 has noticeably better sound quality if you ask me. But both 300 & 600 are great!
Thank you!
Love your work and energy 🙏🏻🤗
Thank you, truly for this it was a great review, probably one of the best, I’ve had a 300 for many many many years 11 I think, the 600 we will see how truly hardware it really works, according to most a lot of stuff Hass to happen in software which defeats the purpose of the looper itself, I am a hardware guy
I feel you. I think if finding simple settings that allow you to use it in the ways you need, that’s the trick. Im happy with my lay out now that I’ve customized a little more.
Hey Emily, I'm used to the 300, with all the tracks the same length ( the lenght of the first track), do you know if the RC-600 can be limited that way? thanks
I’ve been waiting on this. You have been given a new title… Mentor of all things loop related.
Lol Schweet 😂 I’ll try not to lead you astray! I’ll do what I can tho :)
Now there is sheeran looper x? Hope you can compare it to rc 600.
Me too! They said they’ll send me one when they have more in stock
Great video, I was wondering if you had to adjust your mic settings to avoid the button click coming through? Is that an sm58 you’re using?
Ya the beta 58 is the loop mic. Didn’t have to adjust yet. The metal isn’t too loud… but one time I noticed it. Might take some practice because it’s not necessary to slam ur foot to play in time right? So I am learning to adjust my finesse :)
Thanks for the help! :)
Yay glad it helps! Thanks for checking it out Robby :)
Thank you Emily for a great video ,very informative 👍
Oh good! Probs time to do an update to this one. I’ve been using the 600 for over 6 months now! Lots to love. Still some things I would change.
This is so helpful! Thank you!
You’re so welcome!! Glad it’s useful!
Get pedal caps it will help but the 600 looks like tap dancing, the effect wear sic on 300 but it was just one effect without extra buttons
I tried puddle caps. I didn’t really like them. I love the small size of the RC 600, but I think the buttons on the 300 are still superior
Thanks Em and 'HI' from Australia. Thanks for the info and comparisons. I am new to Looping. In Thinking long term, should I purchase the RC300 or the RC600? Your advice would be greatly appreciated.THANK YOU
Hey Matthew! I bet you the rc-300s are going to be very affordable these days. Especially used! Couldn’t hurt to try on the 300. It’s a great pedal! 600 does have better sound quality, and effects. Id say those are the only areas where it’s superior to the 300. Hope that helps!