Such an underrated movie, this scene delivery is so simple yet horrifying when Icarus says “unknown”, that makes your imagination run to the worst things imaginable
No I still shit bricks. The tension they create by having all these strictly controlled variables and calculations only makes it better when they introduce these “unknowns” or things they didn’t account for. Just like the scene where dude realizes he miscalculated and destroyed some of the mirror-plating.
when I first saw this and thought it was really bad they were low on oxygen, but the second she says " 5 crew members" it turns into a damn horror movie that I didn't see coming.
Because he is the crew. I think the AI can't distinguish whether he is from Icarus 1 or 2. But from the mission, he is still part of the Icarus crew members.
I mean the idea of a spaceship taking on a passenger is unthinkable, it's sheer nonsense. The A.I was obviously and understandably unable to deal with this bizarre situation.
This scene is so tense and ominous. This film is just perfection. And my god Cillian Murphy has literally never turned in a bad performance. Man is easily one of the greatest actors of our time
What’s absolutely crazy is that back then thinking that you can have a conversation with a computer was science-fiction but now with ChatGPT, this is so realistic
Chat GPT is nothing but a Bot that steals its answers from the Internet without consent and has nothing to do with a artificial intelligence. You also can't have "a real conversation" with it lol bots like that existed for years only new thing it the giant database it can use and process.
@@NT_1 I'm not saying Alexa's voice sounds like Icarus's voice, I'm saying a real world possibility today is pairing ChatGPT with Alexa's tech, because those are two things that exist for real right now.
I love how dumb the computer is in this movie. It doesn't think to mention there is an extra crew member on board and seems totally unbothered that the oxygen garden is on fire. It doesn't even notice that trey miscalculated the angle of the shield. The computer being so useless really adds to the feeling of isolation that the crew feels.
I wouldn't call it dumb, just limited. Icarus tries to warn them about several risks and perils throughout but they always wave her warnings away because they are consciously steering off course, telling Icarus to turn off alarms, sensors and such. But yeah, I'd call Icarus II limited in it's power to help the crew, outside of the main mission parameters, deliver the payload.
@@William_Sk I'd certainly call it unintelligent. Why does it exist on the mission if not to help? It contributes nothing. One of the crew even freezes to death trying to save the 'mainframe' as if its worth anything
@@Mark-lj1djt actually serves its purpose. Definitely not unintelligent. It was no different than other computers you see in movies (except HAL9000). Remember that machine are programmed in certain way they always come as pragmatically limited and emotionally subpar. And I wouldn't call it brought more isolation to the crew. They've been trained for this for months and if your companion you can always rely to is a piece of machinery then you really are isolated.
they literally manually override the shield calculations from the computer, thats the source of the problem (the asian guy fucked up). i agree computers are dumb but watch it again
@@brostoevsky8481 they deviate from the original course. They forget to adjust the shield and this causes shield damage. The computer did not notice the mistake. They then adjust the angle of the ship to put the damaged area into shade so it can be repaired. Sunlight hits a revolving antenna causing the oxygen garden to catch fire. The computer doesn't bother to inform the crew that there is a fire it simply tries to adjust the ship to its original orientation. This marks the only time the crew attempt to override the computer because the new angle will incinerate their colleagues outside. Eventually they don't override the computer because the ship, oxygen garden and payload are more important than their colleagues. So at no point do they actually override the computer. I suggest that you watch it again.
@@ANALOGCLIPS Also sorry to disappoint but apparently Danny Boyle, the director, has confirmed Pinbacker to be real. Though I'm still looking for a direct quote on that. Lots of movie trivia indicate people working on the movie deemed him a real physical human and not just as a figment of Cappa. That being said, it is a somewhat interesting theory regardless.
This scene is executed to perfection. Get chills every time. One of my fav segments of the film. Great camera work and dialog. The subluminal flash frames. The eerie music. Murphy's acting. Chef's kiss!
I LOVE THE WAY THE TENSION SLOWLY BUT STEADILY BUILDS UP IN THIS SCENE BEFORE THE TRUE HORROR/SHOCKER IS REVEALED FROM 0:55 ONWARDS WITH THOSE SUBLIMINAL FLASHES OF PINBACKER AS CAPA REALISES WHAT HAS HAPPENED ! ! ! GREAT SCENE AND GREAT ACTING ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Why couldn't she have alarmed the entire crew the very second that she detected an unknown life form enter the ship? Why wait this long? If they had fought him together as a group then they could've prevented him from destroying anything.
i dont think this robot would have been programmed to alert board members of unknown life forms entering the ship, they probably didnt think it would happen on the mission
They planned to bring more people onto the ship before realizing what happened on Icarus I, so it’s possible that the computer took for granted that they found a survivor.
I'm writing a story called Sunshine 2 Flight of the Icarus 3. Original opening: "Our Sun is dying. Mankind faces extinction. 7 years ago, the Icarus project sent a mission to restart the Sun, but that mission was lost before it reached the star. 16 months ago, I, Robert Capa, and a crew of 7 left earth frozen in a solar winter. Our payload: a stellar bomb with a mass equivalent to Manhattan Island. Our purpose: to create a star within a star. 8 astronauts strapped to the back of a bomb. My bomb. Welcome to Icarus 2." My story opening: “Our Sun has been revived. Mankind has been saved. 2 years ago, the Icarus 2 successfully delivered its stellar bomb payload, even though the delivery cost the ship itself and the entire crew. 14 months ago, I, Julius Grande, and another crew of 7 left Earth now thawed from a solar winter. Our mission: study the Sun up close and land the first group of humans on Mercury. 8 astronauts strapped to the back of an artificial bomb. My artificial bomb. Welcome to Icarus 3.”
The scene is not real already. Capa's gone crazy by this moment. There is no Pinbacker, its Capa going nuts. He finally snapped when he got made responsible with all the deaths (esp the suicide). The theory is not very common but well established.
I was wondering how that works for people with jobs like this. In reality, anyone could snap under certain circumstances/environments. I don't think enough energy is put into the psychological aspects of stuff like this.
When I read the wiki on Pinbacker it said that he was a very logical scientist and was non-religious when he started but the stress turned him into a religious fanatic
Such an underrated movie, this scene delivery is so simple yet horrifying when Icarus says “unknown”, that makes your imagination run to the worst things imaginable
No I still shit bricks. The tension they create by having all these strictly controlled variables and calculations only makes it better when they introduce these “unknowns” or things they didn’t account for. Just like the scene where dude realizes he miscalculated and destroyed some of the mirror-plating.
Icarus is the daughter of HAL-9000, he learned her how to be calm that it's terrifying.
Plain goosebumbs and chills man. When she said "Unknown", I'm like wtf?
it's a great movie the only thing bad is physics inaccuracy on the jump scene fro icarus 1 to icarus 2
The pause after Icarus emphatically says "Five crew members" is the stuff pure horror is made of.
when I first saw this and thought it was really bad they were low on oxygen, but the second she says " 5 crew members" it turns into a damn horror movie that I didn't see coming.
I love how any stranger who boards the ship is immediately counted as part of the crew. Could be a xenomorph for all they know.
Because he is the crew. I think the AI can't distinguish whether he is from Icarus 1 or 2. But from the mission, he is still part of the Icarus crew members.
searle is alive in Icarus 1@@martinqizeaq
I mean the idea of a spaceship taking on a passenger is unthinkable, it's sheer nonsense. The A.I was obviously and understandably unable to deal with this bizarre situation.
The scene is not real already. Capa's gone crazy by this moment. There is no Pinbacker, its Capa going nuts.
Goosebumps every time she says “Unknown”. Definitely one of my favorite movies.
This scene is so tense and ominous. This film is just perfection. And my god Cillian Murphy has literally never turned in a bad performance. Man is easily one of the greatest actors of our time
He truly is ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
What’s absolutely crazy is that back then thinking that you can have a conversation with a computer was science-fiction but now with ChatGPT, this is so realistic
Chat GPT is nothing but a Bot that steals its answers from the Internet without consent and has nothing to do with a artificial intelligence. You also can't have "a real conversation" with it lol bots like that existed for years only new thing it the giant database it can use and process.
I loved ICaruss' voice
It's basically ChatGPT with Alexa's voice.
@@rabd3721 not even close
@@NT_1 I'm not saying Alexa's voice sounds like Icarus's voice, I'm saying a real world possibility today is pairing ChatGPT with Alexa's tech, because those are two things that exist for real right now.
I love how dumb the computer is in this movie. It doesn't think to mention there is an extra crew member on board and seems totally unbothered that the oxygen garden is on fire. It doesn't even notice that trey miscalculated the angle of the shield. The computer being so useless really adds to the feeling of isolation that the crew feels.
I wouldn't call it dumb, just limited. Icarus tries to warn them about several risks and perils throughout but they always wave her warnings away because they are consciously steering off course, telling Icarus to turn off alarms, sensors and such.
But yeah, I'd call Icarus II limited in it's power to help the crew, outside of the main mission parameters, deliver the payload.
@@William_Sk I'd certainly call it unintelligent. Why does it exist on the mission if not to help? It contributes nothing. One of the crew even freezes to death trying to save the 'mainframe' as if its worth anything
@@Mark-lj1djt actually serves its purpose. Definitely not unintelligent. It was no different than other computers you see in movies (except HAL9000). Remember that machine are programmed in certain way they always come as pragmatically limited and emotionally subpar.
And I wouldn't call it brought more isolation to the crew. They've been trained for this for months and if your companion you can always rely to is a piece of machinery then you really are isolated.
they literally manually override the shield calculations from the computer, thats the source of the problem (the asian guy fucked up). i agree computers are dumb but watch it again
@@brostoevsky8481 they deviate from the original course. They forget to adjust the shield and this causes shield damage. The computer did not notice the mistake. They then adjust the angle of the ship to put the damaged area into shade so it can be repaired. Sunlight hits a revolving antenna causing the oxygen garden to catch fire. The computer doesn't bother to inform the crew that there is a fire it simply tries to adjust the ship to its original orientation. This marks the only time the crew attempt to override the computer because the new angle will incinerate their colleagues outside. Eventually they don't override the computer because the ship, oxygen garden and payload are more important than their colleagues. So at no point do they actually override the computer. I suggest that you watch it again.
"Icarus, please set the sunroom filters to 10% for 1 minute." Done.
@@ANALOGCLIPS Question then, who disengaged the coupling mechanism between the two Icarus's?
@@ANALOGCLIPS Also sorry to disappoint but apparently Danny Boyle, the director, has confirmed Pinbacker to be real. Though I'm still looking for a direct quote on that. Lots of movie trivia indicate people working on the movie deemed him a real physical human and not just as a figment of Cappa. That being said, it is a somewhat interesting theory regardless.
@ANALOG CLIPS this is entirely untrue. What? Where did you even get this idea?
Lol, I'm assuming there would be some kind of safeguard against that.
@@rabd3721 didn't Pinbacker kill his own crew by disabling the filters when they were in the observation room?
My favorite movie and my favorite part...
"You are dying"
Me too
haha searle is alive@@uffufeny
One of the greatest thriller scenes in movie history
This scene is executed to perfection. Get chills every time. One of my fav segments of the film. Great camera work and dialog. The subluminal flash frames. The eerie music. Murphy's acting. Chef's kiss!
I saw this movie 17 years ago so most of the movie was a blur, but I remembered this scene VIVIDLY. I rewatched it and still fantastic.
I've been searching to see if this scene was up here - so chilling watching it the first time.
0:50 cosmic horror is my favourite type of horror. This gave me goosebumps and had grinning ear to ear in the theatre today.
Sunshine and Moon. The two most underrated space movies EVER
I LOVE THE WAY THE TENSION SLOWLY BUT STEADILY BUILDS UP IN THIS SCENE BEFORE THE TRUE HORROR/SHOCKER IS REVEALED FROM 0:55 ONWARDS WITH THOSE SUBLIMINAL FLASHES OF PINBACKER AS CAPA REALISES WHAT HAS HAPPENED ! ! ! GREAT SCENE AND GREAT ACTING ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I don't think Capa even knew it was Pinbacker until he was in the observation room with him. Totally agree with everything else though!
hope the toilet is on the way to the observation room as I know id be crapping myself.
This scene gave me chills and I had to take a sec to pull it together
This scene is so dope. Almost gives me chills
This scene scared me, when I was kid.
First time I saw this it was chilling. Went from a sci-fi adventure to a thriller/horror in one sentence.
This is like a movie of Among Us 13 years before it’s time
Okay are people deliberately pretending that The Thing doesn't exist or something?
Sunshine basicly Among Us game plot before it was cool
The computer took its sweet time to finally draw attention to the fact that someone who is non-authorized is on-board.
The first time I saw this I nearly wet my pants when the AI said, "......unknown."
Why couldn't she have alarmed the entire crew the very second that she detected an unknown life form enter the ship? Why wait this long? If they had fought him together as a group then they could've prevented him from destroying anything.
cause the movie needs to happen
i dont think this robot would have been programmed to alert board members of unknown life forms entering the ship, they probably didnt think it would happen on the mission
They planned to bring more people onto the ship before realizing what happened on Icarus I, so it’s possible that the computer took for granted that they found a survivor.
or probably thought it was harvey@@carlbates9110
searle os alive in icarus 1@@ssword123
"Icarus... who is the fifth crew member? Unknown Where is the fifth crew member? Unknown..."
Great suspense building, but having a slasher at the end really gutted the ending
I mean capa touching the sun is a pretty satisfying ending
i always hear Icarus voice when i read Chtgpt answers
love her voice
So horrifying
"5 crew members"
*Vine Boom SFX*
"Icarus."
"Yes?"
"Who's the 5th crew member?"
"Unknown."
*DOUBLE VINE BOOM SFX*
"WHERE is the 5th crew member?"
"In the observation room."
*Vine boom SFX*
I'm writing a story called Sunshine 2 Flight of the Icarus 3.
Original opening:
"Our Sun is dying. Mankind faces extinction. 7 years ago, the Icarus project sent a mission to restart the Sun, but that mission was lost before it reached the star. 16 months ago, I, Robert Capa, and a crew of 7 left earth frozen in a solar winter. Our payload: a stellar bomb with a mass equivalent to Manhattan Island. Our purpose: to create a star within a star.
8 astronauts strapped to the back of a bomb. My bomb. Welcome to Icarus 2."
My story opening:
“Our Sun has been revived. Mankind has been saved. 2 years ago, the Icarus 2 successfully delivered its stellar bomb payload, even though the delivery cost the ship itself and the entire crew. 14 months ago, I, Julius Grande, and another crew of 7 left Earth now thawed from a solar winter. Our mission: study the Sun up close and land the first group of humans on Mercury.
8 astronauts strapped to the back of an artificial bomb. My artificial bomb. Welcome to Icarus 3.”
I wish he had got the others on the way, they might have all been able to over power him
Wait a minuite... this movie is just Among us aduptation all along!
when the imposter
AMOGUS
Alexa would know.
I dislike the Horrorslasher part of the Movie, but this was well done indeed.
Yeah the tone shift didn't work that well for me, but this is great scene.
The third act becomes way better the second time you watch it. In the end, I think Pinbacker was an excellent addition to the movie.
searle is now alive in Icarus 1@@NavidIsANoob
Gave me the a similar feeling Akers gave me in Soma
The scene is not real already. Capa's gone crazy by this moment. There is no Pinbacker, its Capa going nuts.
He finally snapped when he got made responsible with all the deaths (esp the suicide).
The theory is not very common but well established.
Maybe
Whats the problem with pinbacker
This is why you don’t pick religious people to lead incredibly crucial missions like saving the earth.
I was wondering how that works for people with jobs like this. In reality, anyone could snap under certain circumstances/environments. I don't think enough energy is put into the psychological aspects of stuff like this.
When I read the wiki on Pinbacker it said that he was a very logical scientist and was non-religious when he started but the stress turned him into a religious fanatic
He wasnt religious. He was a pyschopath. Jesus does not reach this
Religion is peaceful and love. not this@@81Point2
Most scientists are actually religious @@d3l3tes00n
It’s among us all over again is what I said
Cernobyl Scorching Houston live
whats the matter?? whats going on?
Too quiet
among us
I do really like this scene but find the "flashing in" of Pinbacker to be unnecessary.
Great scene but I personally hated the sudden shift of this movie into a horror thriller
This is the turning point of the movie this is where it turns from sci fi action to thriller/horror movie. 🫣
For me it felt like a good go-between of Armageddon (minus the cheese), and Event Horizon.