This *IS* a kids movie. Its made to be suitable for kids and is a movie. We shouldnt acceot the slop thats produc3d as childrens content at all. We should have standards.
It's not that Bob wants to go back to the glory days because men are attached to the past, it's that Bob wants to feel useful. Men get their value from their actions. He's working a 9 to 5 and doing nothing with his life for the greater humanity. This is why husbands and fathers go around the house trying to find something to fix, because they want to hear that they are appreciated. If you want to make your mother happy, you tell her "I love you." But if you want to make your father happy, tell him "I appreciate you" or "thanks for doing that."
remember, not just working a 9 to 5: but a 9 to 5 where he has to hear people's suffering, look them in the eye and tell them "we won't help you". He has to look at people who have nothing, and know that his company can help them, but that they won't, and then get yelled at when he even DOES help people when it was really his job TO do that. I can't imagine doing that already, but someone who's whole existence was saving people? The implication that this is not the first boss Bob punched through a wall makes so much sense.
@@Zenn_Chan That's a really good point, I forgot about that part of the movie. And with all that, of course he'd be depressed because he's not being a net positive to society. Instead, he's part of the problem.
I don’t think he wants to feel useful, the theme is so obvious that he wants to be exceptional, and hates being conformed to a life of mediocrity when he can do more. Bob isn’t trying to be selfless to others, this is all about him
Brad Bird had the ultimate back to back that still remains 2 of my top 5 childhood movies, both that still hold up in adulthood. The Iron Giant and The Incredibles.
I love how Helen responds to Bob's pleas. She still stands her ground but respects his viewpoint. When he says, "I can't lose you again! I'm not... strong enough." We can get so caught up in our problems and ideas that we forget to look out for those closest to us. While Helen has every reason to be angry at Bob's choices, he's still human and, thankfully, in a relationship with someone who understands that.
watched this with my dad in theaters when I was 6. One of my favorite movies growing up and his too. He did 20 years of service and was constantly having to do some work for NSA that I knew nothing about, all while raising me and my older brother as a single parent. It was the only “kids” movie he bought on DVD and at times I would catch him just watching it by himself. Love you dad, thanks for everything you did for us, and see you on the other side one day!
@@Emily-the-faerie military families have different life experience than most others, but that doesn't mean they care less, just in their own unique ways based on said life experience.
I went from Marine to remote IT worker within the span of 2 years. I was driving tanks, going in field ops and deploying to only leaving the house 1 day a week and typing on my computer. I definitely relate to this
@@BrandonN3496 2146 brother, I still miss my 88. I was surgical with recoveries; but you're right family and stability comes first. I dont want my kids to have to make the choices I did and civilian life is the best way to do that.
I’m 21, it wasn’t till 3-4 years ago that I realized how many deep and important the messages in this movie are. I had to click the video when I saw someone else sharing the same opinions !
As you grow older your collection of perspectives through which to experience things also grows. Something like Finding Nemo hits much different when you have young kids. Something like Up hits different when you've been married a long time.
It's true. When you're young, you'll never believe when adults tell you what's realistic and how mundane the normal adult life is. I'm 27 now, working a 9 to 5 desk job. Clinically depressed and mentally unstable. What's worse is I didn't even have a good childhood. And as a teen, I expected my adult life to be something else than a continuation of the hell I was in. Only difference now is I'm alone.
08:10 That statement irks me. 'Only now is he becoming a dad and a _"real"_ husband...' For 15 years, he works a mundane job which he resents to provide for his family and to provide his kids with an as-normal-as-possible family surrounding to grow up in. People will argue that this isn't enough, but to completely dismiss it is certainly wrong.
Exactly. And to make things clear, Bob is frustrated with his JOB and LACK OF PURPOSE, not his FAMILY. Even when he's frustrated, it's clear that he loves his family and they love him back. The moment he has the chance to be himself and do what he loves, his family life almost literally brightens up. Also, imagine having your career and entire lifestyle uprooted because *_you did the right thing and saved someone from committing suicide AND saved an entire train from crashing, and they made a law that prevents people from using their abilities to help others in need._* Bob has EVERY right to be bitter. Helen too, she's just either dealing with it better (she's _flexible,_ after all XD) or repressing her own frustrations. And the same goes for Frozone, since he and Bob are constantly doing heroics in secret.
The way I heard that statement is that while he was performing the role of father/husband, only by this point is his mentality and personal sense of purpose really aligned with that role. In a sense, it was a long journey for him to get there psychologically
@@DeathMessenger1988”It’s clear that he loves his family.” The scene at dinner where he’s not even present with what’s going on around him and the immediate 360 when Lucious arrives and he’s off to “bowling night.” That doesn’t really display a love for his family. He’s going through the motions. Showing up is 90% of the battle, but that last 10% is effort and you don’t see that from Bob until he’s playing superhero with Syndrome.
Men are expected to sacrifice everything. Bob is appreciated when he can do the job and family AND stay in shape AND fulfill his interests. Success for men is to be the complete package at all times. There is no off time.
This is the best analysis of The Incredibles I’ve ever seen. There’s something about protecting your family that’s built into most men. Is been over 7 years since a few people came together to try to tear may family apart, and partially succeeded. To this day I still fight back tears when I watch the scene when Bob says “I can’t lose you again”. And yet, since then my wife has been diagnosed with cancer that she will either die with or from. I can’t win the fight what will happen to her, our child, and me. But it means I have a desperate need to make the most of whatever time is given to us together
May God grant you the fortitude, strength and wisdom to manage the time you have left with her wisely, bring the family closer, prepare for what is to come, and help you with life afterwards. May God heal her as well so this would be your testimony. I am saddened that you are going through this.
I know what you said but I sincerely hope she fully recovers and that cancer is in remission. But if that doesn't happen, I hope you guys make the most of it together and are truly happy in the time you do have together. I wish you two the best.
Jesus Christ, David... I don't know what to say but I felt compelled to say something. Anything. My mind is drawing a blank but my heart aches for you. I wish I could give you and your wife every nanoangstrom of excess strength I have within me. I am sincerely hoping for the best, most miraculous outcome for your family.
The quote “I’m not a basketballer, I’m just someone who enjoyed playing basketball” had a huge impact on me. I am in the same situation you were in all those years ago. I don’t have time for basketball anymore but feel guilty for giving it up because I also felt I had a gift. This relieved me of soo much stress. Thank you!
Just like Bob's story hit close to home for you, your analysis at the end hit close to home for me. I'm 26 and already feeling that guilt and pressure you talked about, trying to figure out which talents and pursuits I should get back into and which ones it's okay to leave behind. Either way, I guess having more appreciation for what you have now, especially family and friends, is really important.
Tough thing to navigate for sure. Just think about the life you want and what makes you happy. If it doing it falls into that keep it, if it doesn’t then scrap it
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 I dont know if I'm the most qualified to answer that, but I'm guessing you have things you at least enjoy or things that you value. Finding ways to meet people who share those interests is a good place to start. I know that's pretty basic advice but a little human connection really can help make things clear.
Any man who has settled down can relate to this. I was a paratrooper. After doing that, a lot of things feel kinda dull. But, with that being said, it's up to all of us to find a new purpose. One of the blessings in disguise for me was the fact that my unit was constantly training and out in the field. So, while I do miss it, the fact we went so hard for so long without a break, the calm life I live now provides a lot of peace and rest. I found a new calling. I can look back at the glory days and smile without feeling a piece of myself missing very often.
If he wanted, he could try going the Luke Cage route and be a merc hero with his powers, for the right amount for the people and not corporations that abuse and oppress.
@@jasperzanovich2504 hero sure, but super, he had to keep his powers under wraps in the first half of the movie. Did you notice and listen to the commentary?
@jasperzanovich2504 He didn't even stop with the laws, though.. or family. Him and Frozone still went out to be superheroes, that's why "bowling night" is actually them going out to listen to police scanners and respond to the emergencies. That's how they ended up in the burning building at the start of the movie.
It's so obvious but genius at the same time. Ive seen it countless times (as a kid i went through a phase where i wouldnt sleep without watching it) but that never occurred to me
That last summary sounds exactly why the Bible says that the leaders in the church ought not to be referred to as their title. It gives you a swelled head and when you inevitably make a mistake you’ve gotten your pride in it and try to protect your ego when you should’ve never attached your ego to it in the first place
I've realised lately that as I have become angry, I have become much more careful to not do the things that others have done to make me angry. Now I appreciate my anger for what it is and also allow it to transform me into someone that does not transgress against others. Whereas before I would make excuses for my behaviour, I am now able to admit that I am wrong and want to be held accountable to the same standard I want in others.
It’s not really the glory days he missed it was more so the intrinsic purpose he saw in being a hero. Him being able to pursue that purpose made him think more clearly and was then able to see his family bc he got what he needed when the chance for being a hero came back and everything else fell into place. I’m not sure how far you went with basketball but if you played until 25 I’m assuming at least semi pro or overseas pro for a bit but idk. Regardless, my point is you were gifted with the capability to understand the game, play it well, and enjoy it. In that case you’d still be in the same space with different responsibilities but the reason I’m assuming coaching works is bc you find value in being able to coach in the sport you love. In Mr.incredibles case he didn’t get that option working in an office, that’s like an intelligent person working fast food or retail or any mundane task or an athlete working a “regular job”, your completely out of your element and in a mismatch of what you find important
And when you think about it, Bob's probably not allowed to do mundane heroic jobs, like EMT or police officer due to not being able to reasonably hide his powers in such situations. He's obviously not going to let somebody be crushed to death or something just to maintain his cover, so no service jobs for him.
9:06 thanks buddy.. i was asked a similar question in my promotion interview.. For context i shifted from Lighting industry where i spent 11 years to Banking IT sector 1.5 years .. i was offered an AVP position The interviewer (VP) asked me a similar question.. which industry you truly Love.. "Lighting industry or this banking operations?" And i told him I can't choose.. but the panel was pretty adamant on to choose one answer.. I simply replied "Sir, i wasn't born to be a lighting designer I was just best at it.. nor was I born to be a IT PROFESSIONAL ... I was born to be the best version of myself and that's what I strive for.." Guess who is starting at a AVP OPERATIONS position on 15 Dec 😊😊😊
It's very simple. Men derive their self worth and very identity from how valuable they are to society. Mr. Incredible used to be a hero both in the literal and in the social sense, and those things were taken away from him and replaced with an occupation that is the very antithesis of what he was. Look at the absolutely insane rate at which men who go through divorce and parental alienation take their own lives.
We should not derive our value from what soceity thinks our value is. We should derive our value from God alone and ask God to fulfill our hearts so that we can have the strength to give selflessly however we choose within the specific giftset God endowed us with. And don't let anyone take that from us.
I believe in God and there are many who believe as well. Do not let the media control you. One thing I learned from covid isolation is no man is an island unto themselves. We need others and we need God. I'm appreciative when brothers care for their brother.
@@Ryan_Woods7 I care for others, and I respect your belief, but one cannot simply will oneself into believing in God, just as you most likely don't believe in Krishna and the many thousands of Hindu Gods, you either think Muhammed is a prophet or not, or that Jesus was a prophet or not. You can't just simply will yourself to believe in something you don't.
Mate, I've never seen a video of yours, and the last time I watched this movie was maybe when it came out, I was a kid back then, now I'm a father and your revisiting Bob's life honestly made me cry. Just as you were a basketball player, I'm a singer songwriter who has just had their first child. I intend to watch the Incredibles again because of course I don't remember those scenes where Bob sacrifices his dream life for his family. Thanks for this.
The Incredibles is easily my favourite Pixar movie. It resonated with me on so many levels. At the time it came out, I was beginning my family so Mr Incredibles journey really hit something in me. Now I'm the same age as Mr Incredible was in the movie, it resonates even more.
This is the most I’ve ever related to a video. In my early twenties I had a lot of regional acclaim as a performer. It seemed obvious to everyone in my life that I was going to be a big star. Even college professors would say things like “remember me when you’re famous!” But I had a kid young and chose the single dad life. I have a good job and a great kid and I’d make the same call a million times again, but that feeling you describe, that feeling that I didn’t live up to my own potential haunts me. Not 24/7 like Bob. Mostly at night when I try to fall asleep. Incredible video. When my podcast starts soon I’d love to have you on sometime.
My first time seeing a video of yours and I just want to say you’ve made a great impression. Your voice was very easy to listen to and the pace at which you speak was engaging. Loved the interlacing of the film and resource footage. 10/10
30 years old musician , done it since I was 12. It was such apart of my identity for a long time , and though I still love it . That’s not all that I am . I appreciate the message at the end . 🔥
5:09 mirage is literally a mirage, and could be a reflection of external stimuli people seek outside of marriage and the mundane I.e gambling, or even realistically speaking, affairs… It’s why it’s important to maintain a healthy balance in one’s own life, and do things you actually enjoy. 6:03 ah, called it 😂
Hey, this was a great analysis. I had missed the importance of Mirage as a bridge to catastrophe, but also truth. Bob hears what he want to hear, but refuses to see what’s in front of him: a mistake. But that mistake HAD to be made, or else he doesn’t see his life, his wife and his family for what they are either. The mirage is also Bob’s resentment.
What a great take. Honestly, as a father of two young boys and someone who is well past my best before date as an athlete, your analysis and personal experience made this a great watch.
Trying to cultivate intrinsic self worth is honestly the story of a lot of men’s lives. Takes a lot of self awareness, vulnerability, and the right community to get there though. It’s tough if people around you only value you for what you can provide
I love these kind of deep dives into great media, and I've been looking for stuff on masculinity for my son. This was excellently done, subscribed. 6:35 One thought from a feminine perspective. This always fascinated me from a Helen's flaws perspective. It's amazing that she just sacrificed everything she loved just for her children to protect them to be their mom. But in the process she actually sacrificed them as well to protect them. Bob wanted them trained in their powers. He did it for the wrong reasons but that instinct is actually good. In this moment, Helen realized she should have prepared her children for the world instead of just sheltering. You have to do both as a parent. It's a critical balance. In this moment her old instincts took over and she realized she hadn't prepared Violet at the last second and left them all in danger because of it. And she amends this instantly when they get on the island and starts to prepare her children like she was supposed to. It was a little easier with Dash because the father had interfered. She grew in that moment as well because it almost cost her her children too. Her daughter seemed very quickly to show the growth of being allowed to embrace who she was and be independent, strong.
Too bad they turned Helen into a Mary Sue protag in the second movie and heavily regressed the character growth of the rest of the family. Helen’s still sexy hot so I guess it’s okay for to do all of the feminist cliches according to fans and SIMPs…
Vvomen are ruled by fear. Whereas men are protectors so they want others to conquer fear and be empowered. Vvomen want others to be safe as well, but at the cost of their self development. My own wife did this with our son. Countless times. She would not even let him sleep in his own bed.
Yeah, you can imagine Helen’s guilt if something happened to Violet because she never learnt how to use her force fields because Helen insisted she had to “fit in”
Funny, I got the exact opposite read on Bob... I mean yeah; he DOES start out inattentive and disengaged but that's because the world had left him behind and Helen was trying to make him accept something that just fundamentally ran counter to his spirit. Hero it up, gentlemen, and when the world makes you choose between 'true' and 'safe' consider carefully what you're willing to sacrifice... or better yet, make the world stuff its 'choice' right up the pooper.
Strongly agree, Bob is a hero who is forced to be an NPC, less than a nobody, working for a soulless boss that demands he be a mindless cog and abandon his principals... Looking into the eyes of Eddie Knights, his empty eyes, the very definition of Friedrich Nietzsche's Last Man, who has no ambitions or goals, it makes sense why the conclusions he comes to must fit his herd morality. And Herd Morality is always the danger of dangers and inferior to Master Morality, that which Bob had in spades. Sheep are afraid of sheepdogs and demand they remove their teeth, but the wolf still has teeth and the sheep are now feeling pretty morally superior in their false sense of security thinking by removing the heroes they'll be fine, just fine.
I loved the movie as a kid, but watching it again after my enlistment was over was a gut-punch. Seeing it as a listless 23 y/o, stuck inside during the pandemic, 2 rough deployments done and a stack of medals in my closet, feeling like my best times were behind me, wondering where I was supposed to go from there and how I could feel useful again. But I got better, found new purpose, found a partner I love, and I'm happier than I've ever been. It was a rough time, and I really needed this film.
Thats how I am in my early 20s man... Big into cars and stuff but what happens when you take your hobbies and interests away. What's left when everything that can be taken from you, is?
In my 30s with a wife and my first kid, that "I can't lose you again" hits so hard. Had this on in the gym and had to stop and wipe my eyes for a seconr
Honestly, something about the way you said being careful about what you let become part of your identity hit me hard. I've always defined myself by my friendships and relationship, and seeing those drift apart and decay over the years has been incredibly disheartening. But those don't make up anyone's identify as much as any job or other part of the past defines us. This movie has always been one of my favorites just for how connected I've always felt to Bob, and your dissection of this movie has been one of the best I've seen on the platform.
The Incredibles is about how Mr. Incredible didn't know what he had, until it was almost gone. And all it took was a dangerous mission, on a remote island, for him to figure that out. It contains some pretty mature and complex themes, that most kids wouldn't understand. The sequel focused more on Mrs. Incredible, and securing her place in the spotlight, so it didn't really give him much room for character growth. It was more about him having to take a backseat to her. Also, Evelyn being the villain? Should've expected that.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408of course the reason in the movie is that Bob was too destructive and too costly, but we all know the real reason is the "modern audience" girl boss movement in Hollywood.
Thank you man, I’m 25 in a 4 year relationship rn, and I’m struggling to find the balance of my identity to myself and my identity as partner. It always feels like making time for yourself is a detriment to others and it is, your putting your own needs first but it has a ripple effect you can’t see til much later. I appreciate the time you put into this video and the work you do to explain your thoughts out man ❤
Idk how but I kind of felt this way before I even got to my twenties. By the time I was halfway through university, I didn’t know what I wanted to do. As a kid I was really bright-eyed and enthusiastic about a lot of things but by the time I was 21 my grades were slipping and the degree I was studying for just didn’t seem appealing anymore. I tried several hobbies. I needed something to make me feel alive again. I’m 24 now and done with school. Graduating in a couple days. I make music now. I love but I fear a day will come when I won’t anymore. What then?
That spark is a bit like physical fitness: when you're young, you get a boost, but it can easily go downhill as you get older. And just like physical fitness, the key is never to take it for granted and instead treat it as something you put effort into and make time for, if you want to keepnit strong.
Insightful. The really cool thing about this movie is the layers for kids and adults. When it came out, I was maybe 6 and didn't get all the layers. When Bob is apologizing to Helen, Violet is escaping the restraints. So when there's conversations that kids wouldn't connect to, the film has something for the kids to watch that advances the plot in a way they understand. There's the plot about being cool superheroes (that kids can get) and the plot about being a better father and husband (which adults appreciate). You pointed out a lot of things that I definitely didn't think of even upon rewatches - the contrast between him getting "everything he wanted" back (7:00) while losing his family, what he really valued... then he says "what more can you take from me" - we see those priorities even he didn't know he had!
3:51 I think all dads do this to some degree(children are biologically tied to us after all) but it’s good to humble ourselves and understand that our children have their own destiny and that we have an opportunity to aid them when needed.
This is a well done video essay. I feel like most video essays nowadays are either shallow and don’t go deep, or they go “deep” and span three hours. Well thought out, concise, and personal. Well done!
Having never watched the Incredibles your video makes me want to check it out. I really liked your take. I’m someone resistant to change too so it’ll be interesting if I find this movie as helpful/relatable, especially as a woman with no plans to have a family.
Very good video. I like how you included the clip of him saying "I'm not strong enough" very classic guy trying to solve things by himself and the line is almost cathartic cuz of how real it is.
"The things that were the center of my existence in my 20s are pretty much non-existent in my 30s" This really struck, man. I rarely journal, but when I do, I write affirmations. A year ago, those affirmations were things like, "I am a strong weightlifter," or "I produce music I love." Over the course of the past year, I've developed neuropathy and tinnitus that have basically made it incredibly difficult to continue producing music, lifting weights, or run. This has been really hard to accept, as I've lost a bit of who I identified as. However, I've still been able to enjoy cycling. I intend to rediscover photography. I can still take care of myself and express myself, it's just going to look a little different in my 30s than in my 20s. Cheers to being grateful for the things we have and embracing change!
Very well made video with extremely interesting points, and an amazing message that I cannot thank you enough for. I'm in my early 20s, carving my way through life and assumed responsibility for myself and my family almost couple of years ago, the dissociation that you get from that transition to becoming a man who needs to provide and get things done from someone who had aspirations and certain plans and a way of life that has been demolished within a day because of the economic downfall of my country, sometimes I think back, and I imagine if that hadn't happen, sometimes I even have dreams that I went back to the college that I had to drop out from because we couldn't afford it anymore and I get that feeling of freedom, and even though I've well accepted who I am now, the thrill of the old days still lingers in my head. Even though I never thought I needed it, this message reassures me that whatever steps I had to take do not take away from what I was, and what I will be will still add on and I am grateful for that. Thanks chief, great video.
Purposes change. In my early 20s it was career, gaming and martial arts. Now in my late 20s/early 30s its my wife/kid/career first, and then gaming. Still time for both, just gotta allocate the right amount of time and attention. Gotten injured etc but just need to adapt my strategy at the gym to ease into things. Happy to say never felt I lost a central purpose which is core as a man. Because ive never completely dropped any of it, just adapted the strategy as life changes
I hope that when I’m in my thirties I can still find the strength and courage to keep doing what I love while prioritizing my family. Bob may have thought he was doing his family a great service by lying low and having a 9-5, but was seriously neglecting himself in the process, which had a seriously negative impact on his family dynamic. My father did the same, as did his father before him. I just hope, for my family’s sake and my own, that I’m the one to break the cycle and stay true to who I am and continue to have a sense of purpose and identity throughout fatherhood.
I really enjoyed this dialogue and how you intertwined some of your story within the themes you discussed from the incredibles. You are talented creator and just earned a new subscriber!
Thanks Eddie, this channel continue to evolve not only with well thought out analysis of Superhero media, but also much-needed positive masculinity messaging. I love the Incredibles and I love the work you're doing in this space!
I wanna say thanks for making this video, definitely one that I personally needed at this stage of my life. Similar to what you were saying, in my case it was MMA/Boxing which made me feel alive for than anything, but sustained a rotator cuff injury at 23, and more injuries on top. The amount of sacrifices I had to make in order to get better, including not doing what I love breaks me everyday, was depressed for over a year and now im 25, feeling like all my prime years are going to waste (still sufferring from those injuries now) and can never realise my potential or just go past my limits. Not saying I can never get better but the patience is hard especially in your 20s and 30s but also understand its not my whole life. Just at a point now where I do have things going for me but they don't make me feel alive but literally like Bob in the movie. Just personally at a point where i'm still quite lost in life. This helped me to reflect though a little how training or MMA/Boxing isn't my life but I just really love engaging/training in it. I guess at this point I just need to find other passions in life, as I resonate a lot with Bob and yourself, and can see myself having that lifestyle, where im stuck doing something i dont want to do and being miserable despite having a family etc. Anyways I hope anyone who read this that can relate with your own personal struggles can get through this, and i'm that guy as well, where I am very pessimistic and dont honestly (or very hard) to see light at the end of the tunnel, but just keep trying 💪🏾
Was a very good wrestler but decided to turn down college offers. These things can leave a chip on your shoulder and I never realized how relatable this movie was until I recently started coaching. I love the last thing you said, your identity can be flexible and you will be happier for it.
Hey, thank you for making this. I seriously injured my back on a deadlift which threatened me with paralyzation, and I had to give up barbell lifts and judo. I’m not a professional athlete, but I love these things. Now I’m coming to peace with a newer, safer life and it’s difficult. I miss the raw energy and the push to always be better, but I’m grateful I can still walk and go to the bathroom.
Absolutely this movie hits hard when you want to relive your glory days and be there for your family I was a football and basketball star now I'm an MMA fighter at 30 and trying to find the work life balance between work training and family
Yup currently going through it. Powerlifiting. Not a good feeling. Sad thing is, none of my male friends can understand it either. Being an athlete and leaving it behind, just hurts.
Dude... I had a boy about a year ago, and lost my job six months ago. Got some freelances here and there but not close to pay all the bills, so our savings are sinking. It's really hard to keep it up. One side wanting to let it all go, the other holding on what I can because that will bring us another week or month of incoming. I almost never talk the whole picture with the lady because she is already putting insane work with the little dude. She says she trusts me but I don't feel like I deserve it right now. Having the boy around and watching him grow is the best thing but at the same time something is always missing. I don't even know what is my final point with this comment, just felt safe to let it here. Thanks for the video.
A few years ago, I lost my job a couple weeks before my 3rd child was due. Part of me was terrified, but another part of me felt confident for some reason that everything would be ok because I was going to dedicate every waking moment to do what I could to take care of them. That’s all anyone can do. I pray God will give you the serenity to accept the things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Trust in him that this will be enough, and it will bring you peace.
Thanks for sharing. I'm in a similar boat but instead of losing my job im working a job that i enjoy but is not what i want to make a career of because i went to school for a much higher paying field. I just havent been able to find a job in that field and I've been feeling unfulfilled and underutilized. I dont talk to the lady about it much because she's a public special ed teacher and she's got a hard enough time dealing with work and caring for our kid while i work my dead-end 2nd shift job.
6.55 my favourite scene in the whole film, which remains one of my top 5 of all time to this day. Great vid, you articulated everything I’ve always thought about this film. Well done mate.
"Be careful what you let become part of your identity." Learning this the hard way this last year but in the reverse method. I put everything into being the 100% dad and 100% husband, and all the other things, and lost my sense of self to these perfect ideals. Ironically I lost sight of my family because I was so hung up on those identity issues. I'm better at those things now that I'm behaving like a human being. Tough lessons.
Incredible video. I’m a 20 year old college student. I’m currently going through a reminiscence relapse of someone I really wanted and when I was in a “prime” of sorts. In that time I believed that because I had her gaze I had everything I wanted. Even now, mature in thought and in personal faith, it still struggle immensely with the thought of her and that nobody will be like her and that I will settle. An extremely poor and boyish thought process. I’ve let that thought process affect my studies and I live in fear that if I don’t have her the next person will be worse and my whole life will be a settlement of what could have been “better” (from a distorted perspective. Although I am not a father I certainly dream of being one and this video has called me out of my love for the glory days. There is more glory to come and more life to be lived. Thank you.
Young man, I salute your courage to be honest with yourself. My condolences on that relationship not working out. Glad you know that it doesn't have to be the end of your journey. I did not fall for my wife right away, but after all these years, it's clear how God meant us for each other. I pray He sends you the right person at the right time, and when that happens, cherish her always.
@ thank you Daniel. I believe God will meet me when I least expect it and have focused on receiving His love and allowing it to make me anew. Although I miss this girl, deep down I understand that to the extent she existed in my life, I had to endure suffering in order for a greater good to be drawn out from my testimony. I get to testify to God with greater strength, and that is a joy I seek not to squander. Thank you brother.
This video really hit me in the chest. Im turning 31 next month and three weeks ago I tore my Achilles playing basketball. Realistically I'll probably not be playing much basketball for the next two years. Between that and a shoulder injury, I'm not going to be that super athletic guy anymore. Im not an athlete. It's been a bit of a mental burden dealing with the fact that what I identified myself with is probably gone forever. You're right though, I'm not a basketball player or an athlete. Im a person who played basketball and could do some athletic things. That's not where my value lies. That's not who I am. Now it's time to find out who that person is....after a rewatch of Incredibles with my family.
I always felt Bob was going thru something where yes he loves his family and feels like he used to have been more appreciated and helpful but him talking with frozone in the car always reminded me of older guys I knew growing up who maybe played D1 college sports or served in the army or were cops at a young age. They remember the thrill and the rush and as time goes on they miss that sense of adventure that comes with being young( and probably wreckless) and wish they could ether relive it or go back and do it better.
I feel you on the family thing. Personally I never wanted kids in my 20s. I just turned 30 a couple months ago. Now I turned 30 I don’t all of a sudden want a family even though part of me does. I’m more than happy to wait until I’m in my late 30s or 40ish to have kids. Yesterday this gorgeous girl gave me her number. But idk. I’m fighting to recover from serious health problems and that’s gonna take years not months. In a few more years of rehabilitation I’ll be able to work again pt. I plan to start a food cart business and do that 4 hrs a day. Then in another few years after that I’ll be able to work a full time job or simply be out of the house working for 8ish hours a day. But frankly right now I’m quite handicapped. It depresses me. Right now I’m going from bed ridden to a few minutes of physio then back to bed on & off. That’s me at least half the day on average. Idk I suppose I’ll go out for coffee with her and tell her my situation and my plans and if she’s interested in being a part of it then cool. What do you think man?
Such a great video. Not only do you break things down on an analytical level, you also break them down on a personal level and that's not something that a lot of people can do. Love the content!
I love the lesson of not letting what you love about yourself be part of your character. I've said this same message for a while now (5 or 10 years) because you can easily feel shattered if what you identified with is suddenly no longer appreciated. Ever since the rise of the LGBT folk, I've thought that those who are freaking out the most when confronted with opposition don't feel secure about their ideas, and have let what's unique about them become their identity (just like Mr. Incredible). This was a great video essay; well done! I've always loved this movie, but I hadn't quite notice the depth of Mr. Incredible until now.
Cool now I need you to take the LGBT example and take it back to the 1950s. Same principle, Bob and everyone like him are completely and utterly unable of showing who they are, what they are and will be punished if they ever, ever do. It shouldn't be a sole part of your identity, all that you are, but is that a strong enough point to say they (LGBT as well as supers) completely shutter away that aspect of who they, definitely, are? No. And by the end Bob and his family are happier because the world they reside in ALLOWS them to show that aspect of themselves. The problem wouldn't exist if it was only the concept of vigilantism that was gotten rid of, and rather supers were afforded the ability to show their powers in their lives, Bob working a construction job where his super strength would be Extremely helpful, productive and at the end, rewarding for his sense of contribution to society would have solved the overall issues of his character. But he wasn't afforded that. It would be like never allowing gay people to walk with their partner. Especially when Bob had experienced a society where he USED to be welcomed.
@@stealthbrawler LGBT folk are allowed to be that open. Nobody is forced to hide that part of themself. I was only making the real world comparison that Mr. Incredible and LGBT folk are unique for different reasons, but there is more to each of them than a single attribute. :)
Fantastic video bro!! I’m currently a 24 year old who had my identity tied to my basketball achievements and been dealing with the regrets of my past mistakes. But your video help me feel better about everything. Thanks man, truly✊🏽
You are a thousand percent right. Never link your sense of self worth to external things, especially your career. All those things can be taken from you through no fault of your own and it's devastating.
Except it's a flawed summation. The issue wasn't Bob having a unsatisfying career, it's the fact he and his family are completely shut down from ever expressing their talents that could and should be used to help others. A construction job where Bob is allowed to show his powers would have better suited him. But he wasn't allowed to express ANYTHING. his son is frustrated Bec he can't express his talents as well and violet was extremely repressed and made an outcast of herself because society, of which her mother pushed alongside with onto Bob and her children, said they needed to hide who and what they are. That, is a breeding ground for misery. The issue wasn't some ego driven desire. It was a need to be a person, to express yourself and who you are, and by extension, have a purpose in life where you aren't shuttered away from your own person.
Used to be they couldn't, that's why it's so foreign to men. For thousands of years men were what they were. The Warrior was a Warrior, the Farmer always a Farmer. The Smith, always a Smith. Those things never changed.
Finally the algorithm tossing good stuff my way. This is very insightful and an angle I didn't consider, but definitely would if I was to watch the movie again. I had some feeling like that while watching The Last Wish (Puss in Boots) and was reminiscing how not being content with what you've got can be a spiral to losing it until you realize it is what you actually want. You got a sub, looking forward to your future work.
Bro this is such a great breakdown of how most men feel. As Joe rogan said most men live quiet lives of desperation, we need purpose and to feel useful. When bob got his purpose back, everything else in his life sprung back to life
It’s funny yet so true. When every man has purpose the world is truly full of super hero’s. Men will literally die if they believe it is worthwhile and helps other people. That’s why many have willing fought in war
I love being a dad. It is my favorite thing to do. And someone tried to take that from me. One of my friends who is a member of one of them men's groups tried to tell me that I shouldn't define myself by my children. That I should just let it go. We are not friends anymore.
@@blessing_ify He meant that I shouldn't live my life "in service" to them, that I had to live for myself. This man is an absent father himself. I told him my children mean everything to me. Without them I cannot be the man I want to be. Both of my parents were gone before I turned 16. I know what it is like growing up without them. They are my greatest achievement. As long as I live my life is for them. I don't care if I must spend the rest of my life alone because of it. It is a sacrifice I willingly make. That is also why I continue to have a good relationship with their mother. No matter what she did to me she is their mother. I will not take her from them.
@@NotSure-e8z Thank you for the explanation. You're already an amazing father for taking up that responsibility of being a parent. I'm sure your children will forever be grateful for having been blessed with a father like you in their life.
These kinds of analysis videos that look at deeper looks into things we've all watched is some of my favorite content on TH-cam. I love your work bro ❤
I like your line of thinking. About what you make a part of your identity. I'm not just solely an artist, I'm a guy who likes to make art! I'll apply it as best I can, because I think it'll help me. It resonates.
You and the guy missed one key thing. You are both an artist and a guy who makes art, but you're not: persecuted a d repressed and prevented from making, liking or showing an interest in art. That is a very key difference. Mister incredible wasn't afforded to "be a guy who is heroic* at any point. Now imagine how anyone would feel if their greatest love and passion was locked away.
7:29 this claim came out of left field. He never considered his family a burden. Never thought that’s what was holding him back. It was hero’s being forced into retirement that caused his life to go quiet. Just making that clear.
I really love this & your talking points, this is one of my dad's favorite films & you made me ponder how much he might identify with Bob & being a dad. May we all grow into better versions of ourselves.
never have i ever commented on a TH-cam video but Man i gotta say it, thanks' a lot for this video it really made me understand what it is like to let go of things i used to be a part of and thought that my whole life depends on
I was an infantry sniper from 23-26 and am 34 in construction in an office like Bob now. Never got deployed. I feel you on laughing if someone told you you'd quit what you were doing...
Pretty powerful take, especially with commentary from Brad Bird. It's movies like this that gives me inspiration to deep dive into alt meanings for other movies, because up until now, Incredibles was really only seen at surface level to my eyes. Maybe its the "Disney effect and just for kids" colored glasses I'm metaphorically wearing sometimes?
Also relates to old issues with jews with his boss. He is literally ubermench working for a small weak predatory jew who doesnt care about innocent people being victimized. Then dash being forced to not show his true power level. Is effectively like whites which are stopped from ethnic preference. Like how every other group can participate in ethnic nationalism just not whites. I dont think im wrong on subtext because Babylon 5 and real life Weimar germany had the whole thing where a people have fallen from greatness and seek it again but end up only being destructive. Main difference is in incredibles he is literally ubermench so after serving syndrome or whatever he is still able to defeat syndrome whereas in Babylon 5 everything goes awry and never gets fixed, same as real like Germany where they have been culturally traumatized by WW1 and WW2 and will never return to greatness. Best element of some of old pixar is how evocative it is.
Great video on the Incredibles outlook of young men identity dealing with past & present actions. Definitely wasn't a kids movie & very well written for people to relate too as once a kid; now an adult myself. Also anyone know where to buy that Incredibles shirt looks cool!
Mrs Incredible pissed me off so much. People love to overlook how her attitude hampered her children, Violet especially…she made Violet feel like a freak to the point she socially outcasted herself. She made Dash feel like his powers were bad and it caused him to act out in school. She didn’t understand how much being a superhero meant to Mr Incredible and it wasn’t all about vanity like she accused him but it was WHO he is. I feel he wouldn’t have been so quick to go to that island had Helen been a bit more understanding. Like when she demands Violet to make a force field despite NEVER training her to use her powers and telling her she can’t use them. But because she apologizes right after this we’re supposed to look over it. Now I will say her frustrations with Bob were VALID.
Her frustrations were valid but she also didn’t even realize how she was a major cause of his depression. And his depression is why he was such a poor father. I think a common trope of male-female dynamics is that sometimes a woman will unknowingly drain the life from a man and then look up and wonder where the spark has gone. The spark left when you made him sell his motorcycle and told him he couldn’t go on the campaign trip with the guys and insisted that you be involved with all his hobbies. Bob becomes a great father and partner the moment he gets his secret hero mission. She never noticed how bad her husband needed this
@ exactly! I love how you worded that. Everyone always overlooks and excuses Mrs Incredible’s behavior. The second movie she does the exact same thing she was so mad at Bob doing in the first movie! But nobody says anything.
@EggEnjoyer it's hitching a racehorse to a plow. Sure, it'll plow the field, it's YOUR horse. However, the field is NOT the best place for that horse, and it WILL show.
@@alicefreist318 If Mr. Incredible didn't want a family life he shouldn't have taken it. At some point you need to put yourself aside and realize the family is what matters and that is what happens at the end. Mrs. Incredible's actions were protecting them when they reveal how supes were getting whacked. They don't get whacked, obviously because they're the heroes of this story, but they could easily have been so. Instead of supes, a more realistic scenario would be like being in witness protection. Sorry, you don't get to be a celebrity when people are out to get you and your family.
@@Peaches-i2i it’s not that Bob didn’t want a family life, it’s that being a superhero is who he was as a person. So he was suffering from a major identity crisis and Mrs Incredible did not bother to care and took it as him being vain.
The most important thing that should be on everyone mind currently should be to invest in different sources of income that doesn't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis
Thank goodness you brought this up! Truly, investing has changed my perspective on how one can succeed in life; working multiple jobs isn't the optimal way to attain financial freedom and unfortunately, we discover this later in life. Currently earn as much as 10 grand weekly and this has improved my financial life. Great piece!
@@CHELSJAMES Wow, congratulations on your impressive investment success! Your discipline and focus on delayed gratification is truly inspiring. I'm curious, what are some of the key factors that you consider when making investment decisions? Do you have any tips for those of us who are just starting to dip our toes into the world of investing? Thanks for sharing your story!
You are right. The best approach I feel is to diversify investments- by spreading investments across different asset classes like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown.
21 years later what are your thoughts on the first Incredibles movie?
Loved this movie as a kid, and as a adult I love it even more. It hit different. Thanks for this video mate, made me feel things.
One of the best films ever made in general. ^^
Grounded.Versatile. Masterpiece for short-term and long-term experiences.
This *IS* a kids movie.
Its made to be suitable for kids and is a movie.
We shouldnt acceot the slop thats produc3d as childrens content at all. We should have standards.
This popped in my feed after just watching the movie on a free site
It's not that Bob wants to go back to the glory days because men are attached to the past, it's that Bob wants to feel useful. Men get their value from their actions. He's working a 9 to 5 and doing nothing with his life for the greater humanity. This is why husbands and fathers go around the house trying to find something to fix, because they want to hear that they are appreciated. If you want to make your mother happy, you tell her "I love you." But if you want to make your father happy, tell him "I appreciate you" or "thanks for doing that."
I agree with that! But for him being a superhero was the only way he thought he could be useful.. not being a good man, father & husband.
remember, not just working a 9 to 5: but a 9 to 5 where he has to hear people's suffering, look them in the eye and tell them "we won't help you". He has to look at people who have nothing, and know that his company can help them, but that they won't, and then get yelled at when he even DOES help people when it was really his job TO do that. I can't imagine doing that already, but someone who's whole existence was saving people? The implication that this is not the first boss Bob punched through a wall makes so much sense.
@@Zenn_Chan That's a really good point, I forgot about that part of the movie. And with all that, of course he'd be depressed because he's not being a net positive to society. Instead, he's part of the problem.
I feel bad for him. Gotten worse Everywhere. No one wants to work at a 9-5.
I don’t think he wants to feel useful, the theme is so obvious that he wants to be exceptional, and hates being conformed to a life of mediocrity when he can do more. Bob isn’t trying to be selfless to others, this is all about him
Me at 10: "Damn, Elastigirl it thicc"
Me at 24: "Damn, Elastigirl is stil thicc. Also, I have depression now."
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Me at 24 *types in google search* “real life elastigirl hot pics”
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Deviant lol. I just thought she was lookin for a tag or something
Brad Bird had the ultimate back to back that still remains 2 of my top 5 childhood movies, both that still hold up in adulthood. The Iron Giant and The Incredibles.
The iron giant is definitely a banger
Back to back to back for some who saw Ratatouille
Ratatouille too
I'd say Mulan still holds up really well too. Also The Road to El Dorado is Gangster nobody ever talks about it.
@@JesusChrist2000BC That ain't Brad Bird tho
I love how Helen responds to Bob's pleas. She still stands her ground but respects his viewpoint. When he says, "I can't lose you again! I'm not... strong enough." We can get so caught up in our problems and ideas that we forget to look out for those closest to us. While Helen has every reason to be angry at Bob's choices, he's still human and, thankfully, in a relationship with someone who understands that.
Helen wouldve divorced him and took everything in real life
@@torachan23not everyone is like that. Don’t get me wrong there’s people like that but that’s on them. The women who separate than working together
@@torachan23get therapy
Most are because spciety enables it.@@DrApolloParadoxal
@@torachan23and that wouldn’t be crazy to do so
Peak Pixar.
Tex!!!
Ey it's the Snyder glazer himself
@basedostrich Rebel Moon was so bad even HE couldn't defend Snyder
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Pixar before Disney.
watched this with my dad in theaters when I was 6. One of my favorite movies growing up and his too. He did 20 years of service and was constantly having to do some work for NSA that I knew nothing about, all while raising me and my older brother as a single parent. It was the only “kids” movie he bought on DVD and at times I would catch him just watching it by himself.
Love you dad, thanks for everything you did for us, and see you on the other side one day!
That sounds very gray and terrifying
@@Emily-the-faerie military families have different life experience than most others, but that doesn't mean they care less, just in their own unique ways based on said life experience.
@@blowedup3207 i didnt say anything about not caring
@@Emily-the-faerie so what?
he worked for the bad guys
I went from Marine to remote IT worker within the span of 2 years. I was driving tanks, going in field ops and deploying to only leaving the house 1 day a week and typing on my computer. I definitely relate to this
I feel the same. I was a 0341 and an instructor to working at a data center. I miss the boys but this life is stable for my child
0341 here as well. same here now I'm suturing to be a cs major and I feel lost
@@BrandonN3496 2146 brother, I still miss my 88. I was surgical with recoveries; but you're right family and stability comes first. I dont want my kids to have to make the choices I did and civilian life is the best way to do that.
That’s rough guys, you’re lucky to have experienced it
Motor Tuh forever
I’m 21, it wasn’t till 3-4 years ago that I realized how many deep and important the messages in this movie are. I had to click the video when I saw someone else sharing the same opinions !
You'll see it more and more as you grow, life is a continual process of learning and appreciating meaning. So long as you keep your mind open to it.
As you grow older your collection of perspectives through which to experience things also grows. Something like Finding Nemo hits much different when you have young kids. Something like Up hits different when you've been married a long time.
Bro I’m 31 and just saw it. Talk about being a late bloomer.
I'm 27, you realized it quick man hopefully that makes it easier for ya, life is a cruel mistress if you let it be.
It's true. When you're young, you'll never believe when adults tell you what's realistic and how mundane the normal adult life is. I'm 27 now, working a 9 to 5 desk job. Clinically depressed and mentally unstable. What's worse is I didn't even have a good childhood. And as a teen, I expected my adult life to be something else than a continuation of the hell I was in. Only difference now is I'm alone.
I hope you find that someone mate
08:10 That statement irks me.
'Only now is he becoming a dad and a _"real"_ husband...'
For 15 years, he works a mundane job which he resents to provide for his family and to provide his kids with an as-normal-as-possible family surrounding to grow up in.
People will argue that this isn't enough, but to completely dismiss it is certainly wrong.
Agreed. He may have been dissatisfied but he was doing what had to be done to secure his family
Exactly. And to make things clear, Bob is frustrated with his JOB and LACK OF PURPOSE, not his FAMILY. Even when he's frustrated, it's clear that he loves his family and they love him back.
The moment he has the chance to be himself and do what he loves, his family life almost literally brightens up.
Also, imagine having your career and entire lifestyle uprooted because *_you did the right thing and saved someone from committing suicide AND saved an entire train from crashing, and they made a law that prevents people from using their abilities to help others in need._*
Bob has EVERY right to be bitter. Helen too, she's just either dealing with it better (she's _flexible,_ after all XD) or repressing her own frustrations. And the same goes for Frozone, since he and Bob are constantly doing heroics in secret.
The way I heard that statement is that while he was performing the role of father/husband, only by this point is his mentality and personal sense of purpose really aligned with that role. In a sense, it was a long journey for him to get there psychologically
@@DeathMessenger1988”It’s clear that he loves his family.” The scene at dinner where he’s not even present with what’s going on around him and the immediate 360 when Lucious arrives and he’s off to “bowling night.” That doesn’t really display a love for his family. He’s going through the motions. Showing up is 90% of the battle, but that last 10% is effort and you don’t see that from Bob until he’s playing superhero with Syndrome.
Men are expected to sacrifice everything. Bob is appreciated when he can do the job and family AND stay in shape AND fulfill his interests.
Success for men is to be the complete package at all times. There is no off time.
This is the best analysis of The Incredibles I’ve ever seen.
There’s something about protecting your family that’s built into most men. Is been over 7 years since a few people came together to try to tear may family apart, and partially succeeded. To this day I still fight back tears when I watch the scene when Bob says “I can’t lose you again”. And yet, since then my wife has been diagnosed with cancer that she will either die with or from. I can’t win the fight what will happen to her, our child, and me. But it means I have a desperate need to make the most of whatever time is given to us together
May God grant you the fortitude, strength and wisdom to manage the time you have left with her wisely, bring the family closer, prepare for what is to come, and help you with life afterwards.
May God heal her as well so this would be your testimony.
I am saddened that you are going through this.
I know what you said but I sincerely hope she fully recovers and that cancer is in remission. But if that doesn't happen, I hope you guys make the most of it together and are truly happy in the time you do have together. I wish you two the best.
Jesus Christ, David... I don't know what to say but I felt compelled to say something. Anything. My mind is drawing a blank but my heart aches for you. I wish I could give you and your wife every nanoangstrom of excess strength I have within me. I am sincerely hoping for the best, most miraculous outcome for your family.
Nooo. Stay strong. Your wife WILL recover ❤️.
This is heart wrenching. I wish I had more to offer you than my prayers and condolences. I hope you and her find meaning in this suffering one day
The quote “I’m not a basketballer, I’m just someone who enjoyed playing basketball” had a huge impact on me. I am in the same situation you were in all those years ago. I don’t have time for basketball anymore but feel guilty for giving it up because I also felt I had a gift. This relieved me of soo much stress. Thank you!
8:53 "So obsessed with being undervalued that I undervalued all of you".
This hits home.
Yeah. That one hit a little too close to home.
Just like Bob's story hit close to home for you, your analysis at the end hit close to home for me. I'm 26 and already feeling that guilt and pressure you talked about, trying to figure out which talents and pursuits I should get back into and which ones it's okay to leave behind. Either way, I guess having more appreciation for what you have now, especially family and friends, is really important.
Tough thing to navigate for sure. Just think about the life you want and what makes you happy. If it doing it falls into that keep it, if it doesn’t then scrap it
I'm feeling that urge now what can I do? People say think about what you love but what if you dont have that?
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 I dont know if I'm the most qualified to answer that, but I'm guessing you have things you at least enjoy or things that you value. Finding ways to meet people who share those interests is a good place to start. I know that's pretty basic advice but a little human connection really can help make things clear.
Relatable, down to the being 26 part.
No man wants to be the robot from rick n morty that passes the butter. To summarize
But he has such a clear purpose.
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 I find that cracking me up. Having a purpose does not guarantee fulfilment.
Or Mr. Poopy butthole
I feel like that robot currently........no Purpose
@@franciscogerardohernandezR1979 knowing you have one at least is some
Any man who has settled down can relate to this.
I was a paratrooper. After doing that, a lot of things feel kinda dull. But, with that being said, it's up to all of us to find a new purpose.
One of the blessings in disguise for me was the fact that my unit was constantly training and out in the field. So, while I do miss it, the fact we went so hard for so long without a break, the calm life I live now provides a lot of peace and rest. I found a new calling. I can look back at the glory days and smile without feeling a piece of myself missing very often.
Bob's a true hero, he needs to help others. He can't spend his life increasing shareholder profit at the expense of others
I love the Incredibles g0yim boss meme for dubbing over that scene at the office 😅
If he wanted, he could try going the Luke Cage route and be a merc hero with his powers, for the right amount for the people and not corporations that abuse and oppress.
@@danyaelpecson557 No, he didn't stop being a superhero becasue he suddenly got a family, superheroes were outlawed.
@@jasperzanovich2504 hero sure, but super, he had to keep his powers under wraps in the first half of the movie. Did you notice and listen to the commentary?
@jasperzanovich2504 He didn't even stop with the laws, though.. or family.
Him and Frozone still went out to be superheroes, that's why "bowling night" is actually them going out to listen to police scanners and respond to the emergencies. That's how they ended up in the burning building at the start of the movie.
What Brad said about the powers of each family member reflecting their personality and the stereotypes is brilliant. This film is such a masterpiece.
It's so obvious but genius at the same time. Ive seen it countless times (as a kid i went through a phase where i wouldnt sleep without watching it) but that never occurred to me
That last summary sounds exactly why the Bible says that the leaders in the church ought not to be referred to as their title. It gives you a swelled head and when you inevitably make a mistake you’ve gotten your pride in it and try to protect your ego when you should’ve never attached your ego to it in the first place
What verses are you talking about?
@ Matthew 23:8-10
Amen to that, brother
I've realised lately that as I have become angry, I have become much more careful to not do the things that others have done to make me angry. Now I appreciate my anger for what it is and also allow it to transform me into someone that does not transgress against others. Whereas before I would make excuses for my behaviour, I am now able to admit that I am wrong and want to be held accountable to the same standard I want in others.
How did I never know this? Insane revelation
It’s not really the glory days he missed it was more so the intrinsic purpose he saw in being a hero. Him being able to pursue that purpose made him think more clearly and was then able to see his family bc he got what he needed when the chance for being a hero came back and everything else fell into place.
I’m not sure how far you went with basketball but if you played until 25 I’m assuming at least semi pro or overseas pro for a bit but idk. Regardless, my point is you were gifted with the capability to understand the game, play it well, and enjoy it. In that case you’d still be in the same space with different responsibilities but the reason I’m assuming coaching works is bc you find value in being able to coach in the sport you love. In Mr.incredibles case he didn’t get that option working in an office, that’s like an intelligent person working fast food or retail or any mundane task or an athlete working a “regular job”, your completely out of your element and in a mismatch of what you find important
And when you think about it, Bob's probably not allowed to do mundane heroic jobs, like EMT or police officer due to not being able to reasonably hide his powers in such situations. He's obviously not going to let somebody be crushed to death or something just to maintain his cover, so no service jobs for him.
9:06 thanks buddy.. i was asked a similar question in my promotion interview..
For context i shifted from Lighting industry where i spent 11 years to Banking IT sector 1.5 years .. i was offered an AVP position
The interviewer (VP) asked me a similar question.. which industry you truly Love.. "Lighting industry or this banking operations?"
And i told him I can't choose.. but the panel was pretty adamant on to choose one answer..
I simply replied
"Sir, i wasn't born to be a lighting designer I was just best at it.. nor was I born to be a IT PROFESSIONAL ... I was born to be the best version of myself and that's what I strive for.."
Guess who is starting at a AVP OPERATIONS position on 15 Dec 😊😊😊
It's very simple.
Men derive their self worth and very identity from how valuable they are to society.
Mr. Incredible used to be a hero both in the literal and in the social sense, and those things were taken away from him and replaced with an occupation that is the very antithesis of what he was.
Look at the absolutely insane rate at which men who go through divorce and parental alienation take their own lives.
We should not derive our value from what soceity thinks our value is. We should derive our value from God alone and ask God to fulfill our hearts so that we can have the strength to give selflessly however we choose within the specific giftset God endowed us with. And don't let anyone take that from us.
@@smokingcrab2290no one believes in God anymore, it’s not a solution for modern times.
I believe in God and there are many who believe as well. Do not let the media control you. One thing I learned from covid isolation is no man is an island unto themselves. We need others and we need God. I'm appreciative when brothers care for their brother.
@@Ryan_Woods7 I care for others, and I respect your belief, but one cannot simply will oneself into believing in God, just as you most likely don't believe in Krishna and the many thousands of Hindu Gods, you either think Muhammed is a prophet or not, or that Jesus was a prophet or not. You can't just simply will yourself to believe in something you don't.
@@smokingcrab2290 Yeah no thanks. What good has god done for any of us
Mate, I've never seen a video of yours, and the last time I watched this movie was maybe when it came out, I was a kid back then, now I'm a father and your revisiting Bob's life honestly made me cry.
Just as you were a basketball player, I'm a singer songwriter who has just had their first child. I intend to watch the Incredibles again because of course I don't remember those scenes where Bob sacrifices his dream life for his family.
Thanks for this.
The Incredibles is easily my favourite Pixar movie. It resonated with me on so many levels. At the time it came out, I was beginning my family so Mr Incredibles journey really hit something in me. Now I'm the same age as Mr Incredible was in the movie, it resonates even more.
Pixar’s was in their BAG with this movie. It’s My favorite movie from them
Yeah top 2 or 3 for me
@@NERDYB4ITWASCOOLTV Whats your #1?
“Was in their bag” I love black people. Y’all perfectly translate your souls like no one else
"you might call yourself a huge hooper"
Narratively you have no idea how much that line changed from the context of my life.
Good video.
The fact that The Incredibles is 20 years old blows my mind love this movie also this is one of the realest videos on this channel ❤🙌🏾
This is the most I’ve ever related to a video. In my early twenties I had a lot of regional acclaim as a performer. It seemed obvious to everyone in my life that I was going to be a big star. Even college professors would say things like “remember me when you’re famous!” But I had a kid young and chose the single dad life. I have a good job and a great kid and I’d make the same call a million times again, but that feeling you describe, that feeling that I didn’t live up to my own potential haunts me. Not 24/7 like Bob. Mostly at night when I try to fall asleep. Incredible video. When my podcast starts soon I’d love to have you on sometime.
Bro don’t make a podcast lmao come up with original content
My first time seeing a video of yours and I just want to say you’ve made a great impression. Your voice was very easy to listen to and the pace at which you speak was engaging. Loved the interlacing of the film and resource footage. 10/10
Thanks! Welcome aboard
30 years old musician , done it since I was 12. It was such apart of my identity for a long time , and though I still love it . That’s not all that I am . I appreciate the message at the end . 🔥
5:09 mirage is literally a mirage, and could be a reflection of external stimuli people seek outside of marriage and the mundane I.e gambling, or even realistically speaking, affairs…
It’s why it’s important to maintain a healthy balance in one’s own life, and do things you actually enjoy.
6:03 ah, called it 😂
Hey, this was a great analysis. I had missed the importance of Mirage as a bridge to catastrophe, but also truth.
Bob hears what he want to hear, but refuses to see what’s in front of him: a mistake.
But that mistake HAD to be made, or else he doesn’t see his life, his wife and his family for what they are either.
The mirage is also Bob’s resentment.
What a great take. Honestly, as a father of two young boys and someone who is well past my best before date as an athlete, your analysis and personal experience made this a great watch.
Trying to cultivate intrinsic self worth is honestly the story of a lot of men’s lives. Takes a lot of self awareness, vulnerability, and the right community to get there though. It’s tough if people around you only value you for what you can provide
I love these kind of deep dives into great media, and I've been looking for stuff on masculinity for my son. This was excellently done, subscribed.
6:35 One thought from a feminine perspective. This always fascinated me from a Helen's flaws perspective. It's amazing that she just sacrificed everything she loved just for her children to protect them to be their mom. But in the process she actually sacrificed them as well to protect them. Bob wanted them trained in their powers. He did it for the wrong reasons but that instinct is actually good. In this moment, Helen realized she should have prepared her children for the world instead of just sheltering. You have to do both as a parent. It's a critical balance. In this moment her old instincts took over and she realized she hadn't prepared Violet at the last second and left them all in danger because of it. And she amends this instantly when they get on the island and starts to prepare her children like she was supposed to. It was a little easier with Dash because the father had interfered. She grew in that moment as well because it almost cost her her children too. Her daughter seemed very quickly to show the growth of being allowed to embrace who she was and be independent, strong.
Too bad they turned Helen into a Mary Sue protag in the second movie and heavily regressed the character growth of the rest of the family. Helen’s still sexy hot so I guess it’s okay for to do all of the feminist cliches according to fans and SIMPs…
Vvomen are ruled by fear. Whereas men are protectors so they want others to conquer fear and be empowered. Vvomen want others to be safe as well, but at the cost of their self development. My own wife did this with our son. Countless times. She would not even let him sleep in his own bed.
That is an awesome takeaway. Thanks for sharing that perspective.
Yeah, you can imagine Helen’s guilt if something happened to Violet because she never learnt how to use her force fields because Helen insisted she had to “fit in”
Funny, I got the exact opposite read on Bob... I mean yeah; he DOES start out inattentive and disengaged but that's because the world had left him behind and Helen was trying to make him accept something that just fundamentally ran counter to his spirit.
Hero it up, gentlemen, and when the world makes you choose between 'true' and 'safe' consider carefully what you're willing to sacrifice... or better yet, make the world stuff its 'choice' right up the pooper.
Strongly agree, Bob is a hero who is forced to be an NPC, less than a nobody, working for a soulless boss that demands he be a mindless cog and abandon his principals... Looking into the eyes of Eddie Knights, his empty eyes, the very definition of Friedrich Nietzsche's Last Man, who has no ambitions or goals, it makes sense why the conclusions he comes to must fit his herd morality. And Herd Morality is always the danger of dangers and inferior to Master Morality, that which Bob had in spades. Sheep are afraid of sheepdogs and demand they remove their teeth, but the wolf still has teeth and the sheep are now feeling pretty morally superior in their false sense of security thinking by removing the heroes they'll be fine, just fine.
I loved the movie as a kid, but watching it again after my enlistment was over was a gut-punch. Seeing it as a listless 23 y/o, stuck inside during the pandemic, 2 rough deployments done and a stack of medals in my closet, feeling like my best times were behind me, wondering where I was supposed to go from there and how I could feel useful again.
But I got better, found new purpose, found a partner I love, and I'm happier than I've ever been. It was a rough time, and I really needed this film.
Thats how I am in my early 20s man... Big into cars and stuff but what happens when you take your hobbies and interests away. What's left when everything that can be taken from you, is?
You keep going.
All that's left is a resolve and fighting spirit. And that's where incredibles starts turning into fight club.
@@cabnbeeschurgr Sounds like a grand old time.
In my 30s with a wife and my first kid, that "I can't lose you again" hits so hard. Had this on in the gym and had to stop and wipe my eyes for a seconr
😂pathetic
Honestly, something about the way you said being careful about what you let become part of your identity hit me hard. I've always defined myself by my friendships and relationship, and seeing those drift apart and decay over the years has been incredibly disheartening. But those don't make up anyone's identify as much as any job or other part of the past defines us. This movie has always been one of my favorites just for how connected I've always felt to Bob, and your dissection of this movie has been one of the best I've seen on the platform.
The Incredibles is about how Mr. Incredible didn't know what he had, until it was almost gone. And all it took was a dangerous mission, on a remote island, for him to figure that out. It contains some pretty mature and complex themes, that most kids wouldn't understand. The sequel focused more on Mrs. Incredible, and securing her place in the spotlight, so it didn't really give him much room for character growth. It was more about him having to take a backseat to her. Also, Evelyn being the villain? Should've expected that.
Why should Bob take the backseat to his wife? That's not the way marriages are supposed to work.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408of course the reason in the movie is that Bob was too destructive and too costly, but we all know the real reason is the "modern audience" girl boss movement in Hollywood.
I am a 16 year old teenager and I relate to this somehow, I see my father go through this everyday
Thank you man, I’m 25 in a 4 year relationship rn, and I’m struggling to find the balance of my identity to myself and my identity as partner. It always feels like making time for yourself is a detriment to others and it is, your putting your own needs first but it has a ripple effect you can’t see til much later. I appreciate the time you put into this video and the work you do to explain your thoughts out man ❤
Idk how but I kind of felt this way before I even got to my twenties. By the time I was halfway through university, I didn’t know what I wanted to do. As a kid I was really bright-eyed and enthusiastic about a lot of things but by the time I was 21 my grades were slipping and the degree I was studying for just didn’t seem appealing anymore. I tried several hobbies. I needed something to make me feel alive again. I’m 24 now and done with school. Graduating in a couple days. I make music now. I love but I fear a day will come when I won’t anymore. What then?
That spark is a bit like physical fitness: when you're young, you get a boost, but it can easily go downhill as you get older.
And just like physical fitness, the key is never to take it for granted and instead treat it as something you put effort into and make time for, if you want to keepnit strong.
Insightful. The really cool thing about this movie is the layers for kids and adults. When it came out, I was maybe 6 and didn't get all the layers. When Bob is apologizing to Helen, Violet is escaping the restraints. So when there's conversations that kids wouldn't connect to, the film has something for the kids to watch that advances the plot in a way they understand. There's the plot about being cool superheroes (that kids can get) and the plot about being a better father and husband (which adults appreciate). You pointed out a lot of things that I definitely didn't think of even upon rewatches - the contrast between him getting "everything he wanted" back (7:00) while losing his family, what he really valued... then he says "what more can you take from me" - we see those priorities even he didn't know he had!
3:51 I think all dads do this to some degree(children are biologically tied to us after all) but it’s good to humble ourselves and understand that our children have their own destiny and that we have an opportunity to aid them when needed.
This is a well done video essay. I feel like most video essays nowadays are either shallow and don’t go deep, or they go “deep” and span three hours. Well thought out, concise, and personal. Well done!
Having never watched the Incredibles your video makes me want to check it out. I really liked your take. I’m someone resistant to change too so it’ll be interesting if I find this movie as helpful/relatable, especially as a woman with no plans to have a family.
Glad you found some value in the video. And It’s definitely worth the watch!
Very good video. I like how you included the clip of him saying "I'm not strong enough" very classic guy trying to solve things by himself and the line is almost cathartic cuz of how real it is.
"The things that were the center of my existence in my 20s are pretty much non-existent in my 30s"
This really struck, man. I rarely journal, but when I do, I write affirmations. A year ago, those affirmations were things like, "I am a strong weightlifter," or "I produce music I love." Over the course of the past year, I've developed neuropathy and tinnitus that have basically made it incredibly difficult to continue producing music, lifting weights, or run. This has been really hard to accept, as I've lost a bit of who I identified as. However, I've still been able to enjoy cycling. I intend to rediscover photography. I can still take care of myself and express myself, it's just going to look a little different in my 30s than in my 20s.
Cheers to being grateful for the things we have and embracing change!
Very well made video with extremely interesting points, and an amazing message that I cannot thank you enough for. I'm in my early 20s, carving my way through life and assumed responsibility for myself and my family almost couple of years ago, the dissociation that you get from that transition to becoming a man who needs to provide and get things done from someone who had aspirations and certain plans and a way of life that has been demolished within a day because of the economic downfall of my country, sometimes I think back, and I imagine if that hadn't happen, sometimes I even have dreams that I went back to the college that I had to drop out from because we couldn't afford it anymore and I get that feeling of freedom, and even though I've well accepted who I am now, the thrill of the old days still lingers in my head.
Even though I never thought I needed it, this message reassures me that whatever steps I had to take do not take away from what I was, and what I will be will still add on and I am grateful for that.
Thanks chief, great video.
Purposes change. In my early 20s it was career, gaming and martial arts. Now in my late 20s/early 30s its my wife/kid/career first, and then gaming. Still time for both, just gotta allocate the right amount of time and attention. Gotten injured etc but just need to adapt my strategy at the gym to ease into things. Happy to say never felt I lost a central purpose which is core as a man. Because ive never completely dropped any of it, just adapted the strategy as life changes
I hope that when I’m in my thirties I can still find the strength and courage to keep doing what I love while prioritizing my family. Bob may have thought he was doing his family a great service by lying low and having a 9-5, but was seriously neglecting himself in the process, which had a seriously negative impact on his family dynamic. My father did the same, as did his father before him. I just hope, for my family’s sake and my own, that I’m the one to break the cycle and stay true to who I am and continue to have a sense of purpose and identity throughout fatherhood.
That's a quality video man! You gave me a new perspective for a movie that I watched a while ago in just 10 minutes. Very short and informative.
I really enjoyed this dialogue and how you intertwined some of your story within the themes you discussed from the incredibles. You are talented creator and just earned a new subscriber!
Thanks Eddie, this channel continue to evolve not only with well thought out analysis of Superhero media, but also much-needed positive masculinity messaging. I love the Incredibles and I love the work you're doing in this space!
I wanna say thanks for making this video, definitely one that I personally needed at this stage of my life. Similar to what you were saying, in my case it was MMA/Boxing which made me feel alive for than anything, but sustained a rotator cuff injury at 23, and more injuries on top. The amount of sacrifices I had to make in order to get better, including not doing what I love breaks me everyday, was depressed for over a year and now im 25, feeling like all my prime years are going to waste (still sufferring from those injuries now) and can never realise my potential or just go past my limits.
Not saying I can never get better but the patience is hard especially in your 20s and 30s but also understand its not my whole life. Just at a point now where I do have things going for me but they don't make me feel alive but literally like Bob in the movie. Just personally at a point where i'm still quite lost in life.
This helped me to reflect though a little how training or MMA/Boxing isn't my life but I just really love engaging/training in it. I guess at this point I just need to find other passions in life, as I resonate a lot with Bob and yourself, and can see myself having that lifestyle, where im stuck doing something i dont want to do and being miserable despite having a family etc. Anyways I hope anyone who read this that can relate with your own personal struggles can get through this, and i'm that guy as well, where I am very pessimistic and dont honestly (or very hard) to see light at the end of the tunnel, but just keep trying 💪🏾
Was a very good wrestler but decided to turn down college offers. These things can leave a chip on your shoulder and I never realized how relatable this movie was until I recently started coaching. I love the last thing you said, your identity can be flexible and you will be happier for it.
Hey, thank you for making this. I seriously injured my back on a deadlift which threatened me with paralyzation, and I had to give up barbell lifts and judo. I’m not a professional athlete, but I love these things. Now I’m coming to peace with a newer, safer life and it’s difficult. I miss the raw energy and the push to always be better, but I’m grateful I can still walk and go to the bathroom.
Absolutely this movie hits hard when you want to relive your glory days and be there for your family I was a football and basketball star now I'm an MMA fighter at 30 and trying to find the work life balance between work training and family
Yup currently going through it. Powerlifiting. Not a good feeling. Sad thing is, none of my male friends can understand it either. Being an athlete and leaving it behind, just hurts.
Dude... I had a boy about a year ago, and lost my job six months ago. Got some freelances here and there but not close to pay all the bills, so our savings are sinking.
It's really hard to keep it up. One side wanting to let it all go, the other holding on what I can because that will bring us another week or month of incoming. I almost never talk the whole picture with the lady because she is already putting insane work with the little dude. She says she trusts me but I don't feel like I deserve it right now. Having the boy around and watching him grow is the best thing but at the same time something is always missing.
I don't even know what is my final point with this comment, just felt safe to let it here. Thanks for the video.
A few years ago, I lost my job a couple weeks before my 3rd child was due.
Part of me was terrified, but another part of me felt confident for some reason that everything would be ok because I was going to dedicate every waking moment to do what I could to take care of them.
That’s all anyone can do.
I pray God will give you the serenity to accept the things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Trust in him that this will be enough, and it will bring you peace.
@@shurnbrendt7581 thank you. Really, thank you!
Thanks for sharing. I'm in a similar boat but instead of losing my job im working a job that i enjoy but is not what i want to make a career of because i went to school for a much higher paying field. I just havent been able to find a job in that field and I've been feeling unfulfilled and underutilized. I dont talk to the lady about it much because she's a public special ed teacher and she's got a hard enough time dealing with work and caring for our kid while i work my dead-end 2nd shift job.
6.55 my favourite scene in the whole film, which remains one of my top 5 of all time to this day.
Great vid, you articulated everything I’ve always thought about this film.
Well done mate.
"Be careful what you let become part of your identity." Learning this the hard way this last year but in the reverse method. I put everything into being the 100% dad and 100% husband, and all the other things, and lost my sense of self to these perfect ideals. Ironically I lost sight of my family because I was so hung up on those identity issues. I'm better at those things now that I'm behaving like a human being. Tough lessons.
Incredible video.
I’m a 20 year old college student. I’m currently going through a reminiscence relapse of someone I really wanted and when I was in a “prime” of sorts. In that time I believed that because I had her gaze I had everything I wanted. Even now, mature in thought and in personal faith, it still struggle immensely with the thought of her and that nobody will be like her and that I will settle. An extremely poor and boyish thought process. I’ve let that thought process affect my studies and I live in fear that if I don’t have her the next person will be worse and my whole life will be a settlement of what could have been “better” (from a distorted perspective. Although I am not a father I certainly dream of being one and this video has called me out of my love for the glory days. There is more glory to come and more life to be lived. Thank you.
Young man, I salute your courage to be honest with yourself. My condolences on that relationship not working out. Glad you know that it doesn't have to be the end of your journey. I did not fall for my wife right away, but after all these years, it's clear how God meant us for each other. I pray He sends you the right person at the right time, and when that happens, cherish her always.
@ thank you Daniel. I believe God will meet me when I least expect it and have focused on receiving His love and allowing it to make me anew. Although I miss this girl, deep down I understand that to the extent she existed in my life, I had to endure suffering in order for a greater good to be drawn out from my testimony. I get to testify to God with greater strength, and that is a joy I seek not to squander. Thank you brother.
This video really hit me in the chest. Im turning 31 next month and three weeks ago I tore my Achilles playing basketball. Realistically I'll probably not be playing much basketball for the next two years. Between that and a shoulder injury, I'm not going to be that super athletic guy anymore. Im not an athlete. It's been a bit of a mental burden dealing with the fact that what I identified myself with is probably gone forever. You're right though, I'm not a basketball player or an athlete. Im a person who played basketball and could do some athletic things. That's not where my value lies. That's not who I am. Now it's time to find out who that person is....after a rewatch of Incredibles with my family.
You gotta explore your other talents you didn't even know you had now
@stevecooper7883 yep. My New year's resolution is to finally start writing that book that's been kicking around in my imagination all these years
This warmed my heart. Thank you for making this video, change is super hard but we are lucky to have super people like you around to help us through
Really glad I stumbled upon this channel. solid vid!
I always felt Bob was going thru something where yes he loves his family and feels like he used to have been more appreciated and helpful but him talking with frozone in the car always reminded me of older guys I knew growing up who maybe played D1 college sports or served in the army or were cops at a young age. They remember the thrill and the rush and as time goes on they miss that sense of adventure that comes with being young( and probably wreckless) and wish they could ether relive it or go back and do it better.
I feel you on the family thing. Personally I never wanted kids in my 20s. I just turned 30 a couple months ago. Now I turned 30 I don’t all of a sudden want a family even though part of me does. I’m more than happy to wait until I’m in my late 30s or 40ish to have kids.
Yesterday this gorgeous girl gave me her number. But idk. I’m fighting to recover from serious health problems and that’s gonna take years not months. In a few more years of rehabilitation I’ll be able to work again pt. I plan to start a food cart business and do that 4 hrs a day.
Then in another few years after that I’ll be able to work a full time job or simply be out of the house working for 8ish hours a day.
But frankly right now I’m quite handicapped. It depresses me. Right now I’m going from bed ridden to a few minutes of physio then back to bed on & off. That’s me at least half the day on average.
Idk I suppose I’ll go out for coffee with her and tell her my situation and my plans and if she’s interested in being a part of it then cool. What do you think man?
Such a great video. Not only do you break things down on an analytical level, you also break them down on a personal level and that's not something that a lot of people can do. Love the content!
Dude gave us the entire point of Neon Genesis in ten minutes. Noice.
Your ending monologue was beautiful and just what i needed to hear.
I love the lesson of not letting what you love about yourself be part of your character. I've said this same message for a while now (5 or 10 years) because you can easily feel shattered if what you identified with is suddenly no longer appreciated. Ever since the rise of the LGBT folk, I've thought that those who are freaking out the most when confronted with opposition don't feel secure about their ideas, and have let what's unique about them become their identity (just like Mr. Incredible).
This was a great video essay; well done! I've always loved this movie, but I hadn't quite notice the depth of Mr. Incredible until now.
Cool now I need you to take the LGBT example and take it back to the 1950s. Same principle, Bob and everyone like him are completely and utterly unable of showing who they are, what they are and will be punished if they ever, ever do.
It shouldn't be a sole part of your identity, all that you are, but is that a strong enough point to say they (LGBT as well as supers) completely shutter away that aspect of who they, definitely, are? No. And by the end Bob and his family are happier because the world they reside in ALLOWS them to show that aspect of themselves.
The problem wouldn't exist if it was only the concept of vigilantism that was gotten rid of, and rather supers were afforded the ability to show their powers in their lives, Bob working a construction job where his super strength would be Extremely helpful, productive and at the end, rewarding for his sense of contribution to society would have solved the overall issues of his character.
But he wasn't afforded that. It would be like never allowing gay people to walk with their partner. Especially when Bob had experienced a society where he USED to be welcomed.
@@stealthbrawler LGBT folk are allowed to be that open. Nobody is forced to hide that part of themself.
I was only making the real world comparison that Mr. Incredible and LGBT folk are unique for different reasons, but there is more to each of them than a single attribute. :)
Fantastic video bro!! I’m currently a 24 year old who had my identity tied to my basketball achievements and been dealing with the regrets of my past mistakes. But your video help me feel better about everything. Thanks man, truly✊🏽
You are a thousand percent right. Never link your sense of self worth to external things, especially your career. All those things can be taken from you through no fault of your own and it's devastating.
Except it's a flawed summation. The issue wasn't Bob having a unsatisfying career, it's the fact he and his family are completely shut down from ever expressing their talents that could and should be used to help others. A construction job where Bob is allowed to show his powers would have better suited him. But he wasn't allowed to express ANYTHING. his son is frustrated Bec he can't express his talents as well and violet was extremely repressed and made an outcast of herself because society, of which her mother pushed alongside with onto Bob and her children, said they needed to hide who and what they are.
That, is a breeding ground for misery. The issue wasn't some ego driven desire. It was a need to be a person, to express yourself and who you are, and by extension, have a purpose in life where you aren't shuttered away from your own person.
Used to be they couldn't, that's why it's so foreign to men. For thousands of years men were what they were. The Warrior was a Warrior, the Farmer always a Farmer. The Smith, always a Smith. Those things never changed.
Finally the algorithm tossing good stuff my way. This is very insightful and an angle I didn't consider, but definitely would if I was to watch the movie again. I had some feeling like that while watching The Last Wish (Puss in Boots) and was reminiscing how not being content with what you've got can be a spiral to losing it until you realize it is what you actually want. You got a sub, looking forward to your future work.
Bro this is such a great breakdown of how most men feel. As Joe rogan said most men live quiet lives of desperation, we need purpose and to feel useful. When bob got his purpose back, everything else in his life sprung back to life
It’s funny yet so true. When every man has purpose the world is truly full of super hero’s. Men will literally die if they believe it is worthwhile and helps other people. That’s why many have willing fought in war
I love being a dad. It is my favorite thing to do.
And someone tried to take that from me.
One of my friends who is a member of one of them men's groups tried to tell me that I shouldn't define myself by my children.
That I should just let it go.
We are not friends anymore.
Sorry, I don't quite understand what the 'define yourself by your children" means.
Please can you explain it to me?
@@blessing_ify He meant that I shouldn't live my life "in service" to them, that I had to live for myself.
This man is an absent father himself. I told him my children mean everything to me. Without them I cannot be the man I want to be. Both of my parents were gone before I turned 16. I know what it is like growing up without them.
They are my greatest achievement. As long as I live my life is for them.
I don't care if I must spend the rest of my life alone because of it. It is a sacrifice I willingly make.
That is also why I continue to have a good relationship with their mother. No matter what she did to me she is their mother. I will not take her from them.
@@NotSure-e8z Thank you for the explanation.
You're already an amazing father for taking up that responsibility of being a parent. I'm sure your children will forever be grateful for having been blessed with a father like you in their life.
Wow, that is one toxic men’s groups… it’s stupidity to separate a father from his kids, they’re following the feminist rule book I see
I have never seen your videos before but this is one of the most thoughtful videos I’ve seen on TH-cam.
Top tier gold ✨
These kinds of analysis videos that look at deeper looks into things we've all watched is some of my favorite content on TH-cam. I love your work bro ❤
I like your line of thinking. About what you make a part of your identity.
I'm not just solely an artist, I'm a guy who likes to make art!
I'll apply it as best I can, because I think it'll help me. It resonates.
You and the guy missed one key thing. You are both an artist and a guy who makes art, but you're not: persecuted a d repressed and prevented from making, liking or showing an interest in art. That is a very key difference. Mister incredible wasn't afforded to "be a guy who is heroic* at any point. Now imagine how anyone would feel if their greatest love and passion was locked away.
@@stealthbrawler NOW that makes sense.
No clue why this popped up in my queue. However, this was phenomenal. Great video.
Father of 2 young young kids.
9:22. Real
But Bob still identifies as the superhero Mr Incredible. He still gets to do the thing he wanted to do at the beginning.
This video found me at exactly the right time man. I’m a new father fighting against all the shit you just laid out. Thanks for this, subbed
7:29 this claim came out of left field. He never considered his family a burden. Never thought that’s what was holding him back. It was hero’s being forced into retirement that caused his life to go quiet. Just making that clear.
I really love this & your talking points, this is one of my dad's favorite films & you made me ponder how much he might identify with Bob & being a dad. May we all grow into better versions of ourselves.
Eddie back with another banger!
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never have i ever commented on a TH-cam video but Man i gotta say it, thanks' a lot for this video it really made me understand what it is like to let go of things i used to be a part of and thought that my whole life depends on
No wonder this is considered one of PIXAR's Greatest Movies.
The "i'm not strong enough" line still lives with me. Ty for doing this video
I was an infantry sniper from 23-26 and am 34 in construction in an office like Bob now.
Never got deployed.
I feel you on laughing if someone told you you'd quit what you were doing...
Pretty powerful take, especially with commentary from Brad Bird. It's movies like this that gives me inspiration to deep dive into alt meanings for other movies, because up until now, Incredibles was really only seen at surface level to my eyes. Maybe its the "Disney effect and just for kids" colored glasses I'm metaphorically wearing sometimes?
Also relates to old issues with jews with his boss. He is literally ubermench working for a small weak predatory jew who doesnt care about innocent people being victimized. Then dash being forced to not show his true power level. Is effectively like whites which are stopped from ethnic preference. Like how every other group can participate in ethnic nationalism just not whites. I dont think im wrong on subtext because Babylon 5 and real life Weimar germany had the whole thing where a people have fallen from greatness and seek it again but end up only being destructive. Main difference is in incredibles he is literally ubermench so after serving syndrome or whatever he is still able to defeat syndrome whereas in Babylon 5 everything goes awry and never gets fixed, same as real like Germany where they have been culturally traumatized by WW1 and WW2 and will never return to greatness. Best element of some of old pixar is how evocative it is.
Great video on the Incredibles outlook of young men identity dealing with past & present actions. Definitely wasn't a kids movie & very well written for people to relate too as once a kid; now an adult myself. Also anyone know where to buy that Incredibles shirt looks cool!
Mrs Incredible pissed me off so much. People love to overlook how her attitude hampered her children, Violet especially…she made Violet feel like a freak to the point she socially outcasted herself. She made Dash feel like his powers were bad and it caused him to act out in school. She didn’t understand how much being a superhero meant to Mr Incredible and it wasn’t all about vanity like she accused him but it was WHO he is. I feel he wouldn’t have been so quick to go to that island had Helen been a bit more understanding. Like when she demands Violet to make a force field despite NEVER training her to use her powers and telling her she can’t use them. But because she apologizes right after this we’re supposed to look over it. Now I will say her frustrations with Bob were VALID.
Her frustrations were valid but she also didn’t even realize how she was a major cause of his depression. And his depression is why he was such a poor father.
I think a common trope of male-female dynamics is that sometimes a woman will unknowingly drain the life from a man and then look up and wonder where the spark has gone.
The spark left when you made him sell his motorcycle and told him he couldn’t go on the campaign trip with the guys and insisted that you be involved with all his hobbies.
Bob becomes a great father and partner the moment he gets his secret hero mission. She never noticed how bad her husband needed this
@ exactly! I love how you worded that. Everyone always overlooks and excuses Mrs Incredible’s behavior. The second movie she does the exact same thing she was so mad at Bob doing in the first movie! But nobody says anything.
@EggEnjoyer it's hitching a racehorse to a plow. Sure, it'll plow the field, it's YOUR horse. However, the field is NOT the best place for that horse, and it WILL show.
@@alicefreist318 If Mr. Incredible didn't want a family life he shouldn't have taken it. At some point you need to put yourself aside and realize the family is what matters and that is what happens at the end. Mrs. Incredible's actions were protecting them when they reveal how supes were getting whacked. They don't get whacked, obviously because they're the heroes of this story, but they could easily have been so. Instead of supes, a more realistic scenario would be like being in witness protection. Sorry, you don't get to be a celebrity when people are out to get you and your family.
@@Peaches-i2i it’s not that Bob didn’t want a family life, it’s that being a superhero is who he was as a person. So he was suffering from a major identity crisis and Mrs Incredible did not bother to care and took it as him being vain.
"A little boredom can be a dangerous thing"
The most important thing that should be on everyone mind currently should be to invest in different sources of income that doesn't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis
Thank goodness you brought this up! Truly, investing has changed my perspective on how one can succeed in life; working multiple jobs isn't the optimal way to attain financial freedom and unfortunately, we discover this later in life. Currently earn as much as 10 grand weekly and this has improved my financial life. Great piece!
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Wow, congratulations on your impressive investment success! Your discipline and focus on delayed gratification is truly inspiring. I'm curious, what are some of the key factors that you consider when making investment decisions? Do you have any tips for those of us who are just starting to dip our toes into the world of investing? Thanks for sharing your story!
@@SusanMelson-kk6llThings you can invest In
Real estate
Stock Crypto
Bonds
Bitcoin
You are right. The best approach I feel is to diversify investments- by spreading investments across different asset classes like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown.
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Please Do you mind sharing info on the adviser who assisted you? I'm 39 now and would love to grow my portfolio and plan my retirement.
Damn bro, sometimes the algorithm gets it all the way right. I'm subbed