The last MP5K I see for sale was about 3 years ago. $38,000. I can't even Imagine how much a MP5SD would go for these days. That was a great investment you made!
@@arcuz7862repeal the firearm owners protection act's ban on manufacturing new NFA transferable machine guns, and those $100k machine guns will back down to $3-10k.
Tom Clancy referred to the MP5 SD as loud as bugs farting. I have shot them and the action is louder than the bullets spraying down range. I LOVE the MPSD2. If I win the lottery the very first impulse buy is one of them. For real, that thing was a joy to shoot. I went to the Foreign Weapons course at Ft Hood waaaaay back in the day as a reservist. We ran into a Secret Service team at the mess hall. They were there doing an advance scouting/screening for a VIP (the VP, if I remember correctly) and we invited them along. They brought their toys and let us all shoot them. The MP5K in a briefcase was a joy to shoot. The SD? That was a damned miracle. 30 rounds in a four inch pattern, bottom to top at 25 meters.
I shot a full auto MP5 SD at Battlefield Vegas about a year ago and confirm - it's as loud as bugs farting. Shoots/handles like a .22 LR. Nearly zero recoil and is accurate as all get out. The best weapon I've ever had the pleasure to shoot.
@cabbynate the average American can own it full auto in Pennsylvania, without any FFL, as long as you pay for the tax stamp through ATF and follow the process.
How many regular civilians do you know that own any Select Fire Firearms then? They are heavily restricted as you know. Less than 1% of Gun owners have any select fire guns. As for being superior to the MP5SD.. That is just the biased fake opinion of a man being paid to sell this product. When Police and Military Worldwide have all ordered this gun for decades then I will accept the claim of it being a better gun than and MP5. Also the MP5 is famously 'Roller Delayed' which make it much more accurate in Auto and Burst.
They are literally supplying police and military services, these are the target buyers of B&T. But as a civilian, you can also go to their flagship store (if you live in or visit Switzerland) and buy these awsome guns as long as you have the required paperwork. I own two B&T products so far and I'm very pleased, they make exceptional hardware.
i doubt the democrat president would have locked us out of this in the 80's. can't believe reagan did this but the more i research about reagan the more he seems like one of the biggest overrated presidents.
3 round burst was introduced because NOBODY had finger control with full auto. think vietnam.....after the war, changed it to 3 round burst. Finger control and combat DO NOT GO TOGETHER. Sorry but in a fire fight, you could have 100000 hours of just practicing finger control, just throw all that out the window. Fundamentals and becoming masters of them are needed but when the SHTF, all that goes to h*ll.
Dude, Colion just seems like such a fun dude to hang out with. His laugh is contagious. Not to mention, I'm constantly taking notes from all his knowledge, anyway! 🤣
Colion in my book is at the top 5 of the firearm reviewers, besides he also releases videos on strong 2nd Amendment Rights and not very many others do that. He has some very awesome builds. It's very entertaining watching his videos when he gets giddy with excitement shooting them, makes me smile and laugh also.
Agree. It'd take some training and work to get used to full-auto (not the recoil here, so much as it's just a different strategy for implementing your firearm), but once that mental step is made, WHAT A TOOL to have available!
@@vipe650r I can only imagine the outrage the anti gunners would have if you used full auto for defence. OOOH you murderer you used a machine gun weapon of war to murder an innocent man who only wanted your tv you monster you shot him 15 times. But seriously full auto low recoil and dead quiet would be amazing for home defence as long as you have a good backstop or live far away from neighbors. Really hard to not at least hit a few rounds on target.
I love my APC9 Pro... it just doesn't have the giggle switch like yours does. :) Mine also takes Glock mags w/I prefer over the proprietary B&T mags. Plus they take AR Grips and Triggers, but the BT trigger is quite good to go.
I have been a huge supporter of you thur the years. You're a big part of the gun community, and you're also a lawyer. I want to know your thoughts on alan colie case and ussca
Idk about that… I own all 3. APC9, SPC9 PDW, and APC9 SD. The SPC9 had such a design flaw it upset me and I don’t use it anymore. You can’t mount anything by the front charging handle. Once you do (Ala a light switch) you cannot use it anymore bc it gets in the way. Also the T charging handle is another escape route for gas when you shoot suppressed. I mag dumped and had to stop about 20 rounds into it bc my eyes couldn’t take it. Vs APC. I have no problems like that. Only one gripe about the APC lineup, the picatinny rail is NATO spec. So some mounts don’t fit since it’s to wide. Like my g43 does not fix unless I use a 3rd party mount.
Probably not. The web says it's allegedly recoil operated. That means two things: First, it needs a KICK to get the action moving - that won't be either soft or smooth feeling. Second one of the main advantages of a suppressor is recoil reduction. It absorbs a lot of that initial burst, and releases it over a longer period of time.
I have a B&T APC308 (larger brother of this gun)…. There’s a patented hydraulic buffer on all B&T guns… might be as smooth as the MP5 but if it can really tame a .308 round… a 9mm should feel like an air soft gun.
Having worked with both the MP5 and semi-auto versions of the APC9, I agree that it's an improvement. MP5 killer? Maybe not, given the price, availability and some of the ergos demonstrated right here in this video. Additionally, the B&T mags are far more fragile than the H&K mags. Both are useful tools - I wouldn't call the MP5 "lazy"! It may be telling that despite having opportunities to purchase various B&T models, there isn't one in my safe... but there IS an SP5.
I have both the B&T and an MP5 and my B&T is better in every way. Shoots smoother, has better ergo’s, has better modularity and a better manual of arms.
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood If you own both and seriously think that a hydraulic buffer system is "smoother" than the roller delayed masterrace, you're out of your mind and no reliable source.
A few things to significantly improve the APC 9 Pro family: Form 1 SBR the APC 9 pro. Replace the lower with a Lingle lower - this has a VASTLY improved magazine release and uses Magpul Scorpion magazines which are better than the B&T magazines. In the Lingle lower, use an Elftman Trigger - they have one that specifically says it will work for the APC 9 family. The aforementioned Scorpion magazines from Magpul are better than the B&T mags and have slightly more capacity. Add a Forward Controls Design short throw safety. Add an A3 Tactical stock and make it fold to the left side - better in that it does not block the ejection port and is customizable. Add a cheek riser from A3 Tactical for a better ergonomic setup. Add an EoTech EXPS 3.0. Replace the B&T pistol grip with the Magpul K2. Add the A3 Tactical vertical grip with the H&K style grip to the front. Add a modlight and mod button. Add your preferred Sling. If not suppressed add either a Silencerco Omega 9K or a Dead Air Wolfman (I know some do not like Dead Air, choose the Silencerco instead). Add a bunch ammo of your preferred type to complete this build. Enjoy.
The GHM9/APC9 models are great. I switched to the Glock lower because it was hard to find B&T mags and at a reasonable price. It would seem that many European arms don't want the mags to drop free. I've heard that the B&T mags start to drop when they're worn in. The Glock mags drop free and insert nicely. The SD model seems cool-ish. You lose compact storage. The APC9/GHM9 both have a tri lug.
The Scorpion doesn't even compete in the same league. Direct blowback on a polymer gun? Good luck with that. That same concept was so sucessful in the UMP that pretty much nobody bought a fucking UMP.
@@scotopicvision I would hope so. There is also plenty of material at the base of the mag well to open it up and taper/flare it for easier magazine insertions. To have so many failures to drop & feed magazines in the 14-minute video is again, unacceptable.
I would highly suggest not buying the civilian variant of this. It is incredibly inaccurate and inconsistent in its shooting. It was impossible to get a consistent zero, I had some colleagues shoot it and found the same issues. Sent it back to B&T and after getting the run around for almost 6 months they finally said they got around to it and was having the same issue but then said the next day "never mind we got it to group at 3 inches at 25 meters from a vice and thats industry standard." Unfortunately I was deployed at the time they were ready to send it back, so I had to wait until I got back. They sent the target that they "zeroed" on and clearly they had the same issues as only one of them met the "3 inch industry standard" (there were two other groups that had 1-2 fliers of group of 5). For context I can easily shoot 1.5 inch groups with my hk sp5. Finally got to shoot it again and had the same problems. Essentially you never know when you'll have a flier. "Perfect for home defense" is certainly not the case for me. Essentially for me I have a 3200 dollar plinker. Thanks for listening to my rant.
The HK MP5 fires from a closed bolt as does the AR15/M16. They are far more precise and accurate even though they heat up a bit faster in both rapid fire and in 3-round burst/full auto. This is a open bolt machine gun like a UZI or a MAC.
Never forget a couple years ago when the HK Sp5 and the PDW came out 3200 and above was the norm and they couldn’t keep them in stock anywhere. $3200 for this wouldn’t be a bad buy if you are qualified to obtain one.
@@wailers1999 I guess I’m just poor cause wouldn’t think of spending half the cost of a used car on a PDW. The scorpion or rattler would be expensive enough.
@@cabbynate You’re a wealthy person. My father showed me that PCC when I was younger. I couldn’t believe it actually existed. Didn’t get to shoot till 2012 or so. Spent my USN years in the engine room making water, air, and electricity. I’m just now enjoying real freedom.
Yes! It’s a roller delayed blowback like the MP5 so very, very smooth! I have 1000’s of rounds thru my semi auto version of this. Everyone falls in love with it after shooting it.
@@jzaeighty first you told me to learn how to mount a suppressor as if the accuracy issues running an MPX are correlated to that. Now you’re assuming I’m offended you own one. You’re messy bro. If that gun brings you joy, awesome.
Dancing, humming and singing as he works (and plays) like a child with its first toy -this guy is the Christian Williams of the gun range. He obviously loves what he does, and it shows.
I looked at this PCC today. The SBR version and the pistol variant with the collapsible brace going back tomorrow to have another look… it’s amazing and I looked at the Sig rattler. This is an amazing platform.
I'll also point out that it is easier to clean than the MP5SD. For example, the forearm comes off and you have full access to clean the barrel (including the barrel ports) as opposed to having to work through slots in a fixed shroud.
@@jackjames3884 that's why I added a laugh emoji when I made the comment - the folding/storage of the stock may not be ambi - but the usage of the stock IS 100% ambi!.
The "SD in MP5SD stands for the German words "schalldämpfer" --- meaning sound dampened. When squeezed together into one word it simply means "silencer" in modern German. -- 13 years experience teaching the HK subgun family.
I have a B&T APC 45 pro and an Mp5. Even in 45 the B&T is a smoother shooter. It also has better ergo’s and is modular. I chose 45 because I love shooting suppressed and 45 is lethal about 50-70 yards further than 9mm. It’s in my get home bag. My MP5 is just for cool factor/nostalgia at this point.
That platform looks and sounds; insert non-technical term here "Amazaballs" great. The MSRP, not so much; however as another respondent posted if Powerball $$ came my way; it'd be an immediate purchase. I like the fact that you referenced the day/night optics [DS35(LRF)]. Bee's Knee's & the question about everything being ambidextrous [IS A POSITIVE]; again y'all are killin' it!!
I've found that when releasing a magazine like that, you'll have a much easier time pushing up on the magazine and then pressing the mag release. My MK57 Banshee, which uses FN mags has that same issue. You need the strength of an ogre to press the mag release but once you push up on the mag and then try, it goes feather easy. This isn't just a problem with the APC9, butothers like it, like my Banshee. It has to do with the mag release. Because these are pistol mags, and the retention slot is so far forward, to make them ergonomically make sense as a PCC/AR type platform, the button is where the AR would be. But the tiny mag release notch is way up front, so they have to use this... weirdo extender arm setup thing so when you push the button in, it basically pivots the retainer notch out of the slot. Think like a seesaw. Unfortunately physics is a thing and the fulcrum point is way forward, you need to fight it with more force than necessary. With an open chamber or an empty mag it's no problem. But once you get some spring tension pushing down on the mag it becomes a chore. In short, release the pressure by pushing up on the mag and then try releasing the mag. Guns like this would do well to have paddle releases on the back of the mag well instead of a button on the side but that would involve redesigning the magazine.
I own an originial fully transferrable HK MP5SD which I bought in the 1980s for $3000. One of the best purchases I ever made.
cool story mr random internet dude
3k is nothing for that. A excellent investment
The last MP5K I see for sale was about 3 years ago. $38,000. I can't even Imagine how much a MP5SD would go for these days. That was a great investment you made!
@@cabbynate It's not an investment.
@@arcuz7862repeal the firearm owners protection act's ban on manufacturing new NFA transferable machine guns, and those $100k machine guns will back down to $3-10k.
Tom Clancy referred to the MP5 SD as loud as bugs farting. I have shot them and the action is louder than the bullets spraying down range. I LOVE the MPSD2. If I win the lottery the very first impulse buy is one of them. For real, that thing was a joy to shoot. I went to the Foreign Weapons course at Ft Hood waaaaay back in the day as a reservist. We ran into a Secret Service team at the mess hall. They were there doing an advance scouting/screening for a VIP (the VP, if I remember correctly) and we invited them along. They brought their toys and let us all shoot them. The MP5K in a briefcase was a joy to shoot. The SD? That was a damned miracle. 30 rounds in a four inch pattern, bottom to top at 25 meters.
I love it when you have a suppressed weapon that’s so quiet that the bolt is louder than the round pop!
I'd go with either the SD3 or SD6 myself. I prefer the retractable stock. Though a MP5K would ve pretty sweet to have.
@@MikeDCWeld Your talking about the stock that rides the indents in the receiver like the HK91/G3??? That’s my favorite.
I shot a full auto MP5 SD at Battlefield Vegas about a year ago and confirm - it's as loud as bugs farting. Shoots/handles like a .22 LR. Nearly zero recoil and is accurate as all get out. The best weapon I've ever had the pleasure to shoot.
@@KonaLife Awesome. Do you know what exact load you where shooting??
looks like an awful lot of ATF paperwork
yup. probably borrowing it
I guess that depends..... lol
The government extortion and registration is OK! Taxing a right, perfectly legal...
The average American that dosen't have a class 4 FFL can't have it in full auto.
@cabbynate the average American can own it full auto in Pennsylvania, without any FFL, as long as you pay for the tax stamp through ATF and follow the process.
Looks sick, and not from a company that hates civilians
ok peon
Have you seen their prices?
How many regular civilians do you know that own any Select Fire Firearms then? They are heavily restricted as you know. Less than 1% of Gun owners have any select fire guns.
As for being superior to the MP5SD.. That is just the biased fake opinion of a man being paid to sell this product.
When Police and Military Worldwide have all ordered this gun for decades then I will accept the claim of it being a better gun than and MP5.
Also the MP5 is famously 'Roller Delayed' which make it much more accurate in Auto and Burst.
They are literally supplying police and military services, these are the target buyers of B&T. But as a civilian, you can also go to their flagship store (if you live in or visit Switzerland) and buy these awsome guns as long as you have the required paperwork. I own two B&T products so far and I'm very pleased, they make exceptional hardware.
Thankfully my father secured my inheritance.😎
Wow, Full auto happy switch, maybe some day if America goes full on Freedom
Used to be full on freedom until 1986 came
And I continue to curse Reagan for locking us out of stuff like this...
Yep!
Neocon vs true conservative.
@@dashcammer4322 both are socialist that really don’t want a constitutional government
i doubt the democrat president would have locked us out of this in the 80's. can't believe reagan did this but the more i research about reagan the more he seems like one of the biggest overrated presidents.
@@paultaylor9498 hunting
Finally no uscca commercials at the end of the videos. Thank you for walking away from them
Trigger control with the full auto is what we used to use before the 3 round burst.
In the Bundeswehr we were taught trigger control, especially when using the high rate bolt in the MG3..1500 RPM.
3 round burst was introduced because NOBODY had finger control with full auto. think vietnam.....after the war, changed it to 3 round burst. Finger control and combat DO NOT GO TOGETHER. Sorry but in a fire fight, you could have 100000 hours of just practicing finger control, just throw all that out the window. Fundamentals and becoming masters of them are needed but when the SHTF, all that goes to h*ll.
The production and quality of your videos are top-notch. The effects and everything.
Dude, Colion just seems like such a fun dude to hang out with. His laugh is contagious. Not to mention, I'm constantly taking notes from all his knowledge, anyway! 🤣
Colion in my book is at the top 5 of the firearm reviewers, besides he also releases videos on strong 2nd Amendment Rights and not very many others do that. He has some very awesome builds. It's very entertaining watching his videos when he gets giddy with excitement shooting them, makes me smile and laugh also.
Looks like it would beat the ump 45 more than the mp5
The APC PRO 45 is sick
That wouldn't be a "colt"45, yer talk'in about right? 'Cause, if so, I'm in.
@@rrrt01
. 45 APC unfortunately.
Most PCC beat the UMP 45. lol
Aren't they both just blowback? They beauty of the 9mm mp5 is that roller lock. Ump is just blowback.
I own one, I can testify, so perfectly built! Works like a charm and recoil is just amazing
Been saying that for a minute. Full auto capable PCC SD would be ideal for home defense.
Agree. It'd take some training and work to get used to full-auto (not the recoil here, so much as it's just a different strategy for implementing your firearm), but once that mental step is made, WHAT A TOOL to have available!
@@vipe650r I can only imagine the outrage the anti gunners would have if you used full auto for defence. OOOH you murderer you used a machine gun weapon of war to murder an innocent man who only wanted your tv you monster you shot him 15 times. But seriously full auto low recoil and dead quiet would be amazing for home defence as long as you have a good backstop or live far away from neighbors. Really hard to not at least hit a few rounds on target.
Sig MPX with a 6" silencer and extended rail covering the silencer is also really cool, especially when shooting subsonic rounds
My only issue with the MPX and MCX lineup is the bulky hand guard. So much plastic
Sig is trash
@@AFreeThinkingDawg09 There’s no plastic in the MPX?
Recently had a chance to fire APC9pro K now My SIG MPXk is going up for sale. No comparison in build quality.
I love my APC9 Pro... it just doesn't have the giggle switch like yours does. :) Mine also takes Glock mags w/I prefer over the proprietary B&T mags. Plus they take AR Grips and Triggers, but the BT trigger is quite good to go.
Same here brother, the B&T mags are look better but Glock mags are more reliable, abundant and you can get sticks (35 round magazines) for $13
you could get a binary trigger
Need to get a B&T weapon for the collection!!
Thank you Colion 👍
No giggle switch for civilians, no care.
A binary trigger is available for the APC9.
I love my B&T APC9 K Pro. I have a GSL Fatman direct thread suppressor on it.
I have been a huge supporter of you thur the years. You're a big part of the gun community, and you're also a lawyer. I want to know your thoughts on alan colie case and ussca
USCCA is one of his sponsors. His opinion will be the same as Kayle Giles' case. Whatever the USCCA opinion is, is what his opinion is.
Anyone else get Wesley Snipes / Demolition Man vibes while Colion is bouncing around giggling love it ! Keep up the FUN !
Love that PCC, the B&T SPC-9 PDW is even better.
Idk about that… I own all 3. APC9, SPC9 PDW, and APC9 SD. The SPC9 had such a design flaw it upset me and I don’t use it anymore. You can’t mount anything by the front charging handle. Once you do (Ala a light switch) you cannot use it anymore bc it gets in the way. Also the T charging handle is another escape route for gas when you shoot suppressed. I mag dumped and had to stop about 20 rounds into it bc my eyes couldn’t take it. Vs APC. I have no problems like that. Only one gripe about the APC lineup, the picatinny rail is NATO spec. So some mounts don’t fit since it’s to wide. Like my g43 does not fix unless I use a 3rd party mount.
That laugh at about 27 seconds in made me smile. Made me feel your happiness
Guaranteed no matter how much hype is pushed. If this is not roller delayed it’s not/never gonna be as soft and fun to shoot as MP5k suppresssd
Probably not. The web says it's allegedly recoil operated. That means two things: First, it needs a KICK to get the action moving - that won't be either soft or smooth feeling. Second one of the main advantages of a suppressor is recoil reduction. It absorbs a lot of that initial burst, and releases it over a longer period of time.
Yep. It's the honeymoon phase for all of these guntubers. This happens every time something new comes out.
@@lukejohnson1274
So true. Cue the 15 other Guntubers who will “fall in love” with this inferior product!
I have a B&T APC308 (larger brother of this gun)…. There’s a patented hydraulic buffer on all B&T guns… might be as smooth as the MP5 but if it can really tame a .308 round… a 9mm should feel like an air soft gun.
This is probably the most excited I’ve seen you in a while. Great content sir… Thank you
Man that’s an awesome piece Of hardware
Colion ia so goofy happy playing with this thing, he's gone full Simon Phoenix ala Demolition Man, and I'm here for it.
Having worked with both the MP5 and semi-auto versions of the APC9, I agree that it's an improvement. MP5 killer? Maybe not, given the price, availability and some of the ergos demonstrated right here in this video. Additionally, the B&T mags are far more fragile than the H&K mags. Both are useful tools - I wouldn't call the MP5 "lazy"! It may be telling that despite having opportunities to purchase various B&T models, there isn't one in my safe... but there IS an SP5.
I have both the B&T and an MP5 and my B&T is better in every way. Shoots smoother, has better ergo’s, has better modularity and a better manual of arms.
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood If you own both and seriously think that a hydraulic buffer system is "smoother" than the roller delayed masterrace, you're out of your mind and no reliable source.
Wow! Never seen you so excited!!
A few things to significantly improve the APC 9 Pro family:
Form 1 SBR the APC 9 pro.
Replace the lower with a Lingle lower - this has a VASTLY improved magazine release and uses Magpul Scorpion magazines which are better than the B&T magazines.
In the Lingle lower, use an Elftman Trigger - they have one that specifically says it will work for the APC 9 family.
The aforementioned Scorpion magazines from Magpul are better than the B&T mags and have slightly more capacity.
Add a Forward Controls Design short throw safety.
Add an A3 Tactical stock and make it fold to the left side - better in that it does not block the ejection port and is customizable.
Add a cheek riser from A3 Tactical for a better ergonomic setup.
Add an EoTech EXPS 3.0.
Replace the B&T pistol grip with the Magpul K2.
Add the A3 Tactical vertical grip with the H&K style grip to the front.
Add a modlight and mod button.
Add your preferred Sling.
If not suppressed add either a Silencerco Omega 9K or a Dead Air Wolfman (I know some do not like Dead Air, choose the Silencerco instead).
Add a bunch ammo of your preferred type to complete this build.
Enjoy.
The GHM9/APC9 models are great. I switched to the Glock lower because it was hard to find B&T mags and at a reasonable price. It would seem that many European arms don't want the mags to drop free. I've heard that the B&T mags start to drop when they're worn in. The Glock mags drop free and insert nicely.
The SD model seems cool-ish. You lose compact storage. The APC9/GHM9 both have a tri lug.
Why do companies keep pushing out these 9mm PCC "MP5 killers" for exorbitant prices? Just get a sub 800 Cz scorpion micro
Because the cz scorpion is will slow you down from shot to shot and has really bad dot bounce. There is a reason competitors in PCC games ditched them
The Scorpion doesn't even compete in the same league. Direct blowback on a polymer gun? Good luck with that. That same concept was so sucessful in the UMP that pretty much nobody bought a fucking UMP.
@@scotopicvisionobviously you haven’t shot one.
Always a pleasure to see an MP5 in action.
The magazine release issues would be a deal killer for me. In a "tight" situation, THAT could get YOU killed.
I agree! Most don’t like dropping a Full Load on them, and then having a hard time getting it out,
That could be Dangerous!
There are other magazine lowers for that gun
@@scotopicvision I would hope so. There is also plenty of material at the base of the mag well to open it up and taper/flare it for easier magazine insertions. To have so many failures to drop & feed magazines in the 14-minute video is again, unacceptable.
@@COSpacegunner not really, many pcc magazines don’t drop freely. Including MP5’s
@@scotopicvision With the MP5s manual of arms that is acceptable. With some weird AR abomination it is not.
I would highly suggest not buying the civilian variant of this. It is incredibly inaccurate and inconsistent in its shooting. It was impossible to get a consistent zero, I had some colleagues shoot it and found the same issues.
Sent it back to B&T and after getting the run around for almost 6 months they finally said they got around to it and was having the same issue but then said the next day "never mind we got it to group at 3 inches at 25 meters from a vice and thats industry standard."
Unfortunately I was deployed at the time they were ready to send it back, so I had to wait until I got back. They sent the target that they "zeroed" on and clearly they had the same issues as only one of them met the "3 inch industry standard" (there were two other groups that had 1-2 fliers of group of 5). For context I can easily shoot 1.5 inch groups with my hk sp5.
Finally got to shoot it again and had the same problems. Essentially you never know when you'll have a flier. "Perfect for home defense" is certainly not the case for me.
Essentially for me I have a 3200 dollar plinker. Thanks for listening to my rant.
“Perfect for Home Defense” 😂
The HK MP5 fires from a closed bolt as does the AR15/M16. They are far more precise and accurate even though they heat up a bit faster in both rapid fire and in 3-round burst/full auto. This is a open bolt machine gun like a UZI or a MAC.
@@JohnDoeEagle1
It is not an open bolt mechanism.
Beautiful gun but extremely expensive for most people ($3200) for a 9mm. It’s more of a professional gun
Yeah its expensive but then you got the sig spear 308 at 7-8k wow haha
@@BurkMacklynFBIor a 9-10k SVI infinity double stack 1911.😉
Never forget a couple years ago when the HK Sp5 and the PDW came out 3200 and above was the norm and they couldn’t keep them in stock anywhere. $3200 for this wouldn’t be a bad buy if you are qualified to obtain one.
@@BurkMacklynFBI For an auto or just a semi auto 308 spear? Semi autos are normally around 4k.
@@wailers1999 I guess I’m just poor cause wouldn’t think of spending half the cost of a used car on a PDW. The scorpion or rattler would be expensive enough.
Peter took the words out of my mouth about the stock😂
I'm here for the people...
Nope. $2700-$3500.
That is impressive for a straight blowback system
Well, as a retired operator… the H&K mp5 was our carry Primary and P7 was our secondary. Had to beat that… but then again- that was 2001-2009.
A wealthy businessman.😎
@@conwaystern911
I wish I still had my P7M8. Heavy, low capacity but accurate and compact. Loved that pistol.
@@cabbynate You’re a wealthy person. My father showed me that PCC when I was younger. I couldn’t believe it actually existed. Didn’t get to shoot till 2012 or so. Spent my USN years in the engine room making water, air, and electricity. I’m just now enjoying real freedom.
I don't understand why they would build the mag well to look like it takes an AR mag. Makes it look like an after market adapter
Yes! It’s a roller delayed blowback like the MP5 so very, very smooth! I have 1000’s of rounds thru my semi auto version of this. Everyone falls in love with it after shooting it.
No it isn't. It's straight blowback.
APC9K for myself. Also how I feel when I see someone purchase a honey badger and I'm like the rattler is a thing now
MPX solves the magazine weirdness. Its lighter too.
In exchange for scattered groupings suppressed
@@TMJ937 Learn how to properly mount a suppressor and you'll be fine.
@@jzaeightyyou’re so far off I can’t be bothered to enlighten you. Buy your MPX, then.
@@TMJ937 I'm far off? I own one. Does someone owning something offend you?
@@jzaeighty first you told me to learn how to mount a suppressor as if the accuracy issues running an MPX are correlated to that. Now you’re assuming I’m offended you own one. You’re messy bro.
If that gun brings you joy, awesome.
That laughter at 5:30 is PURE HAPPINESS :)
As always, excellent way with words by Colion.
Dancing, humming and singing as he works (and plays) like a child with its first toy -this guy is the Christian Williams of the gun range. He obviously loves what he does, and it shows.
Only thing it won’t beat it at is the price lol
The Hornet! Because it’s quick and repetitive. Great video! And God bless you.
I looked at this PCC today. The SBR version and the pistol variant with the collapsible brace going back tomorrow to have another look… it’s amazing and I looked at the Sig rattler. This is an amazing platform.
I'll also point out that it is easier to clean than the MP5SD. For example, the forearm comes off and you have full access to clean the barrel (including the barrel ports) as opposed to having to work through slots in a fixed shroud.
Yes, the stock IS ambidextrous - you can shoulder it left or right! 😀
Hahaha...shhh
No, it only folds to one side.
@@jackjames3884 that's why I added a laugh emoji when I made the comment - the folding/storage of the stock may not be ambi - but the usage of the stock IS 100% ambi!.
5:27 Colion had his Simon Phoenix moment there 🤣... 😆NAME THAT MOViE REFERENCE!!!🤩
Demolition Man...
John Spartan!? Is that you!?
@@PeterV well done👍
@@Mk1SpitfireGuy well done 👍
B&T really should get more love then they do.
B&T APC for a 12 year old design. It is still a baby and will only get better with rolling changes and growing aftermarket support.
Need money for pew pew!
I own one but no full auto It shoots smooth as butter.
I never wanted a PCC until now, but APC45 looks crazy
LMAO! Keep Peter around forever. Great video brother.
Listen to the people Colion!
For those wondering the “SD” in MP5SD stands for “Suppressor Diameter”
The "SD in MP5SD stands for the German words "schalldämpfer" --- meaning sound dampened. When squeezed together into one word it simply means "silencer" in modern German. -- 13 years experience teaching the HK subgun family.
I doubt this, I think it stands for SchallDämpfer (german for suppressor).
B&T makes some incredible guns. Their like HK but with less contempt for civilians.
It isn't, it is a direct blow back with a shock. For that matter, so is the grass hopper. The HK feels better and is cooler by a mile.
You are a funny dude.
I love how happy you are with a full auto. As most of us would be ..
Happy New Years 🎉
Clicked the LIKE button before playing the video 😍👍🏼😁
If you want to see the real killer. Check out forgotten weapons. Video on the car 15 sd Built by broad river tactical. It's awesome
from far it looks like a H&K UMP platform.
Nice video. Love the enthusiasm and that you put a lot of character into your work. Keep it up!
I have a B&T APC 45 pro and an Mp5. Even in 45 the B&T is a smoother shooter. It also has better ergo’s and is modular.
I chose 45 because I love shooting suppressed and 45 is lethal about 50-70 yards further than 9mm. It’s in my get home bag.
My MP5 is just for cool factor/nostalgia at this point.
Love the APC Pro 45 but the cost of mags is bonkers 😢
@@gearbarrel6237 true, they are expensive but at least they’re solid steel and tuff as nails.
I love Collectors, been going there for decades.
Thank you for what u do, we appreciate all the work and time u put into these videos
YOU ae the best on the net my man!
ohhhhhh, that opener had me peaked! wasn't expecting the zoom zoom shooting out the gate bro.... very noooooyce.......
That platform looks and sounds; insert non-technical term here "Amazaballs" great. The MSRP, not so much; however as another respondent posted if Powerball $$ came my way; it'd be an immediate purchase. I like the fact that you referenced the day/night optics [DS35(LRF)]. Bee's Knee's & the question about everything being ambidextrous [IS A POSITIVE]; again y'all are killin' it!!
I would call it the b&t specter. And I want this thing so badly.
Love mine!! Thanks for the video
I would be ammo broke with that thing. So smooth on full auto.
Good job on the video
"It just farts on target."
And here I was, I thought I was the only one that did that.
I need at least one B&T! That Sig Spear LT calling my name as well!
Great vid but i'll add that the B&T side folder stock only stays tight like that for the first 50 folds, after that is flops around
Totally get the Ferrari vs Porsche thing, having one of each myself….
Only one of each? That’s all your welfare checks could get you? 🙃
Save money and buy a HiTecArms or B&T SD suppressor and then get an AR9SD barrel from Broad River Tactical to convert your AR pcc.
Best intro yet from Mr Noir
Great Gun Review!
You're having way too much fun to be at work !!! We all wish our jobs were that much fun !!!
If only the PCC wasn't horribly outdated
When he starts giggling, jumping around it's a good gun
I just bought a semi auto version of this somehow still legal in Canada can’t wait to get it 🤣
Damn I need one of these .
I know what I'm asking Santa James for next year 😂 .
The stock question was hilarious 😂
as a canadian the mp5 and the m14 are the two guns I wish I could own
Keep doing what you’re doing. Love it and your journey to this point
I've found that when releasing a magazine like that, you'll have a much easier time pushing up on the magazine and then pressing the mag release. My MK57 Banshee, which uses FN mags has that same issue. You need the strength of an ogre to press the mag release but once you push up on the mag and then try, it goes feather easy. This isn't just a problem with the APC9, butothers like it, like my Banshee. It has to do with the mag release. Because these are pistol mags, and the retention slot is so far forward, to make them ergonomically make sense as a PCC/AR type platform, the button is where the AR would be. But the tiny mag release notch is way up front, so they have to use this... weirdo extender arm setup thing so when you push the button in, it basically pivots the retainer notch out of the slot. Think like a seesaw. Unfortunately physics is a thing and the fulcrum point is way forward, you need to fight it with more force than necessary. With an open chamber or an empty mag it's no problem. But once you get some spring tension pushing down on the mag it becomes a chore.
In short, release the pressure by pushing up on the mag and then try releasing the mag. Guns like this would do well to have paddle releases on the back of the mag well instead of a button on the side but that would involve redesigning the magazine.
That scope looks pretty awesome
I'm from the Philippines and I can feel your happiness from off this video 😂
Anything is possible with a private ffl
I'm in Canada, I got an apc9. It's epic! Just wish it was a greater caliber rather than ppc 😢
What song is that playing in the background?
I immediately called this weapon The Swiss 9. Not sure if there’s a weapon already called that, but that’s what came to my mind.
I bought my first .45 from collectors firearms that place is crazy with guns
Great video just one so I guess you have a SBR that gun so than you could put fore grip on the front underside. Just wondering?