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I feel like I should tell you that Hunter didn't come up with the name Caleb, if you look back in the episode Any Sport In A Storm, Flapjack flew on his shoulder and tweeted and Hunter asked him "Caleb?", it was Flapjack who told him the name
Luz, S1 E14: "This mama is ready for trauma!" Ooh, boy that did not age well. I think we were all pretty traumatized, especially poor Hunter. This is the episode that truly changed the course of the series.
Ah yes, the episode that screamed "HEY! BELOS IS A PSYCHO! JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW!" "Oh also make sure to pause at every painting to get even half of the full story!" **Wink** XD
so glad you went back and looked at the paintings! a lot of reactors didn’t and without it you can have a whole different outlook/miss important parts of belos’ story. plus since it’s a pretty dark backstory for disney and/or we don’t have many episodes left, I don’t know if a lot of the full story will reappear again. we’re lucky we got it in this way!
This one was too important for me to not do that, especially because I could tell those portraits were very important. I was too caught up in the hype of the episode to really analyze them during the reaction, so I knew I wanted to rewatch it right away
When Luz & King were talking back and forth on the walkie-talkies, King actually did speak Spanish, Luz was just saying that her lingo she said wasn’t Spanish
@@MikeyVenture Luz said she's with "Echo Delta Alpha" which in the NATO phonetic alphabet, just means "Eda". King thought that she was speaking Spanish. Whoever wrote that joke did a great job
The way that Hunter stayed deep in denial about Belos true nature even when evidence was presented straight to his face just showed him how much he admired and looked to him. All that love, all that loyalty… and for what? To realize that he’s a pawn? That he doesn’t care about him? That he’s not the first of his kind and he probably won’t be the last? Goddamn, this show really knows how to hit us where it hurts…
Don’t forget that learning you’re not human to being with is kind of scary. Your biology is suddenly not what you’d expect it to be, and you don’t know what could happen
especially when he says "Who knows how mind scapes work anyways" after claiming to have studied them... he was conditioned to denounce everyone else including his own expertise in favor of making Belos good
8:33 There's a lot to love about this episode, a lot of lore and reveals and drama, but I always really liked this tiny scene too. The moment Hooty mentions Hunter Darius goes from "we can't get involved, sorry" to "Wait, that's MY angry blonde kid, we have to help!". He *does* care :3
Back in "Yesterday's Lie", we were told "Two brothers were lured into a realm of evil by a real witch", and there was a picture, and two statues earlier in the episode. The two brothers looked like Philip and Hunter, down to the bird on Philip's brother's shoulder looking like Flapjack, so it's fairly reasonable to go ahead and say "brother"...
An interesting detail about the grimwalker book, one of the ingredients is the "bone of ortet" which is a fancy name for the original that a clone is made from. Also in "Elsewhere and Elsewhen" when Phillip crawls back to his home cave, in the back there's a skeleton under a sheet by a picture of grimwalker ingredients, so we are left to assume that he was literally living with his corpse for years while he figured out how to make grimwalkers.
"They're still alive" "Then we still have some work to do" Idk why but thats a terrifying line. Just casually revealing the purpose of the coven sigils
Some intresting details: Hunter's name isnt a name at all its a title, short from Witch Hunter Collector is surely one of the best characters he has such fantastic,, Bill Cipher energy". And finally this episode has shown us how good of an villan Belos truly is. I think I can go ahead and guess that this was probably your favourite episode of season 2
i bet if we ever meet all the previous guards, they're all named killer or destroyer or something. Philip is the kind of douche to keep repeating the same joke over and over
This is the episode that made Belos/Phillip one of absolute favorite Disney Villains of all time. He's Powerful, Cunning, Manipulative, Very Charismatic, and he can be pretty Scary when he wants to be. Plus he has a really cool design and a great voice actor. And as an added bonus, he's an irredeemable sociopath that the protagonist can't just Talk-no-Jutsu into losing. He checks all of my boxes, and then some, for Favorite Disney Villains.
The pain, the trauma, the emotions. Nothing says a show for kids aged 7-11 like that... huh This has to be one of my favourite episodes, the story telling was fantastic here and the fact that we were shown that Belos was Philip before this makes the reveal to Luz feel more emotional in my opinion
(SPOILERS BELOW FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET) Belos is an absolutely terrifying villain and actually one of my favorite villains of all time because he's just so realistic. His backstory aligns with real history very well, the way he manipulated everyone and came to power in the Boiling Isles is really believable, his personality is perfect for a manipulator/tyrant and him killing his brother for betraying his goals after trying to change his mind for a while is the icing on the cake. There are also a lot of parallels between Luz/Hunter and Philip/Caleb that make me like Belos even more. And I also really like how the Collector is basically the opposite of him. He's childish, gets manipulated easily, hurts people for the hell of it because he's too immature to know any better, doesn't need long complex plans to do what he wants and is probably one of the strongest beings in the realm with a crazy strong version of that magic Philip hated so much. And yet Philip managed to "get along" with him for centuries to achieve his goals.
The binging of the "shit gets real" part of owl house. This is one of the best episodes of the whole show IMO, so many things. This really is an episode you need to rewatch and pay attention to the details and more specifically the background. Seriously theres a whole second story burried in the paintings in this episode and its really cool. And fun fact, you said this could be a season finale. And for a while i thought it was because I watched it on Disney plus and for whatever reason Disney waited a long while to bring the last few episodes over so for almost a month I though this episode with hunter running off and such was the end of the season.
"Nobody wants to believe they wasted their whole life being wrong" Paraphrased, but that line so perfectly encapsulates this episode. The citizens of the Isles, Hunter, Luz, even Belos himself, all fall victim to this in some way or another.
Whatever thought when they watched this episode. TRAUMA! TRAUMA EVERYWHERE! Spoilers beyond this point: So major stuff to explain 1. Belos was theorized to be Human from the moment we saw his staff. And him being Philip was also theorized. Plus the scene with Hunter.... Yeah the Grimwalker/Clone thing was foreshadowed I think in the same episode that Belos had a casual face reveal. Which could have been Esclipse lake since there could have been an open book showing off the eyes of a Grimwalker matching the color of Hunter's eyes. 2. For who Hunter is a clone of, Belos... Philip... Philos?(I just wanna see what weird name I can give him)... said to Hunter: "Out of all the Grimwalkers you look the most like him." Him could refer to Philip' brother who we see as a statue in the town of Gravesfield during the episode Yesterday's Lie. 3. Flapjack seeing Hunter's face for the first time back in Hunting Palasmin also supports that the Red Cardinal had seen him before. Hinting that the Palasmin belonged to the guy that Hunter is a clone of. Philip's brother who is unnamed at this point. Which makes Flapjack be one of the oldest Palasmin to exist aside from the Bat Queen herself. Since Philip is a Witch Hunter. Which was something back in the 1600s. Famous example being the witch trials of Salem but they also occured in Connecticut years before the ones in Salem. So that's historically accurate regarding when and where Philip is from. 4. Philip f***Ing killed his own brother for marrying a witch! As in the background we see painting of events that Philip had experienced. One of which shows Philip's brother and a witch together. The latter looking pregnant and is theorized to be a Clawthrone. We also see Philip and his brother fighting with knifes. And we see his brother dead on the ground laying in the same position as the Titan. -The last one pretty much tells us that Philip never had a connection with the titan while his brotehr could have had one.
The owl house isn't a good place for Hunter to be right now, he's confused and scared, he doesn't trust them and he needs to talk to people he does trust, now, who does he trust again?, hmmm....
More like Full Mind, the amount of information they gave us this episode... I remember exactly where I was when this came out, it really hit that hard. It's interesting the way they do reveals here, obviously it's not a surprise to the audience that Belos is Philip, and that Philip is from 1600s Connecticut (where they actually had the first witch trials in the colonies, decades before Salem!), and the fan theorists had also already decided that Hunter was a grimwalker. Though, the fact he wasn't the *first* did still come as a shock. But I think the biggest reveal we get in this episode is that Belos... really is just that evil. He doesn't have good intentions gone wrong, they're not trying to excuse his actions with a tragic backstory, he isn't even after money or power like many other villains; he literally just wants to kill everyone. He disguises himself as a scared child in his mindscape to elicit sympathy from Luz specifically, because he knows she doesn't trust him, but he also knows she's a kind and sympathetic person who's helped him before. He even points it out to Luz, she may not have fallen for his 'charismatic leader' act, but she still has been very much manipulated by him as well. He's been using everyone around him for centuries and he has no remorse about it because he believes he is right.
I love when Hooty says Hunter is in the mind scape Darius is instantly concerned like "Oh no! My kid!". He's the father figure Hunter deserves. Also, in the book for Grimwalkers it said Selkiedomous scales are needed to make one. In the selkiedomous episode, Hunter was sent to slay one for the emperor. Basically he was being sent to get the parts for his future replacement.
Just imagine the pain and turmoil we felt due to having to wait a week to see what happened next. What an ending! What an episode! You know already since you're caught up and all, but, Them's the Breaks, Kid was quite literally the calm before the storm, considering the show does not slow down after that episode 😛 Also, there is tons of Phillip lore hidden in the background images of this episode, namely in the paintings. Did you catch them all? Hint: they provide a clue as to whom this "old friend" Belos mentions might be. Possibly.
Welcome to the beginning..... Of an end. Acronym: Seek The Key Fear T *_H_* *Slaps hands together* now now now, where oh where do we begin :) Obviously this will be a long one! Let's start.... From the beginning. You see those paintings in the background? It tells a story, and a dark one at that. Philip and his brother, young children. Then one day, his brother (calling him Wittebro until further notice) is lured into this world by a witch. Philip goes after him, maybe to save him. Somewhere along the way, he gets his goop curse, but it doesn't hinder him. After years of searching, he finds his brother, and despite his fear over his younger brother's curse, is happy that his brother is here.... And introduces him to his wife. The very witch who brought him here in the first place. A fight breaks out. Wittebro dies, the witch chases him away. But he doesn't leave. He stays in the Demon Realm, for _centuries_ trying to perfect his brother, to rid him of whatever corruption this world gave him. And that's where the Grimwalkers come in. The fandom has had this theory since Eclipse Lake. The book at the beginning? Look closely. The diagram shows the exact same eye color as Hunter. The statues in Gravesfield? One looks exactly like him, while the other looks like Philip when he was younger (we see that in a painting). And finally, the nail in the coffin, Elsewhere and Elsewhen, we see the instructions and a dead body on the table. Add the fact that Wittebro looks exactly like Hunter..... Meaning that he not only killed his brother, but used his body to create a dozen or so clones of him (search up ortet, it was in the book during EL). All that he murdered because they "betrayed" him. Now, Hunter's a good kid. He wants to do what's best for the Isles. He thought that Belos had the same intentions. But not only did that turn out wrong (you can practically see him doing the mental gymnastics to prove that he's good despite the contrary), but his entire identity, his life, _everything_ he thought was real got stripped away and torn apart. Just. Like. That. Now onto Luz. She could have been collateral damage if it weren't for a single event. Helping Philip find the Collector. She thought that she was doing something good, just like Hunter. And just like him, that was torn apart. She probably thought that Philip died years ago, considering that he's from the 1600s, she didn't expect him to be alive. She didn't expect him to be Belos. She didn't expect this _at all._ And of course she's going to try to deny it until she can't, she's going to blame herself for everything that happened despite it not being her fault. Probably one of the most disturbing parts of this episode is the fact that when Luz didn't "do him a favor and call him by his real name", Belos proceeded to use the memory of her in EaE just to hear her say "Philip." And you know that Eda and the rebellion trio (Raine, Eber, and Darius) are going to blame themselves for not being able to protect the kids from the horrors that they went through.
Oh please don't apologise so glad you went back and noticed all of those details. Catching all those hints and backgrounds with the fandom when the episode aired was actually one of the most fun things so glad you're on the same page!
It's very interesting seeing your reaction to Hunter being a Grimwalker being revealed here because you don't like, pause to read everything. Most reactors and a lot of the fandom do so it wasn't really a surprise to most people, because it's very obvious if you pause to really look at the book in Eclipse Lake, but if you don't then it's really surprising.
I think what Luz was referring to when she said, "That wasn't Spanish," was the way she spoke to King over the walkie-talkie. He, not understanding her, thought she spoke in Spanish. I don't know if I explain myself. 😅😅
No spoilers here! Just a reminder that there's a decent amount of clues in Ep.10 about Philip and his time in Gravesfield that could clarify/add to your theories! In case you want to rewatch or dig around: look at the newspaper Vee picks up after Luz helps her out of the trap, the statue she passes by going to the coffee shop, and some of the lore that museum creep drops on her when he has her caged. We got so much dumped on us in this episode, so it was really cool to see you go back and dig into it. I really like how you take the time to analyze and theorize in your reactions and I'm already super excited for the wild ride were about to go on straight to the finale!
Actually there were witch trails in Connecticut _before_ the Salem Witch Trails. The first witch hunt was lead by Jacob Hopkins (I think that's his name) where he had 11 "witches" executed.
This is my favorite episode of the series (or well, one of them). It's so good!! I had to watch it 3 times, and the 3rd time I paused frame by frame to collect the story in the paintings. It's a very good way to tell belos' story with the short time we had. And I feel so bad for Hunter in this episode, especially because he's my favorite character.
Months later, I just realized something I've been completely overlooking: Belos' refusal to let people study more than one track is an important flaw in his plan! If Terra had known anything about Bard magic, she might have known Raine could neuter the potions she was giving them.
Well, his own coven, "the best of the best" spend their schoolyears focusing on one track too, and they seem outright incompetent a lot of the time, so it's safe to assume Belos is intentionally making witches weaker even on "his" side, regardless if it makes his plans flawed.
I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it in the comments but we have seen The Collector before! It was in Knock Knock Knocking on Hooty’s Door. The Collector is the one that captures the Owlbeast :)
This episode was incredible on so many levels. Characters, story, world building, mystery... I remember watching it on the day it aired and being in absolute shock. Emperor Belos is truly scary especially if you look deeper into his actions. Amazing reaction as always. I absolutely love the work and energy you put in all of your videos. Thank you so much. This made my day
It's weird that Hunter thinks Belos has never done anything worthy of feeling guilt, and that he has "pure intentions", even though Belos has already threatened to kill him before. In the Eclipse Lake episode, Hunter was sure Belos would kill him, to the point he was digging his own grave. How can he be so afraid of someone with pure intentions, who does nothing wrong? Obviously someone who does nothing wrong wouldn't be someone you'd expect to kill you. Unless Hunter someone believes killing people for not doing as you ask is justified (and even "pure"), which is even more messed up.
I believe the Whittebane brother's are from Connecticut. Specifically Gravesfeild, which is where Luz grew up (not an irl place but is based off of one I think). But I think they moved there from elsewhere.
Ah yes! The episode that not only was incredibly hyped up by the crew but exceeded expectations! My favorite episode no doubt. And I like that you mentioned in the beginning that Hunter knows Luz’s name but has never said it,, until he saves her life in the end of the episode. Which is a nice little touch! Because let’s be real, those two BOTH saved the other’s life this episode. So they are definitely closer than they were just a little while ago 😅
Woah, I just realised that Darius must've known that Hunter was a Grimwalker. That's crazy to me because I've watched this series twice by myself and have had a whole reactors montage to this show as well. In this episode Hunter mentions something about Darius looking sad in one of Belos's memories regarding the Golden gaurd. Perhaps this is what triggered him to feel inclined to giving Hunter the opportunity to live his own life, and maybe even motivated him to turn against the emperor..
This was a very big episode, and the point where I started to watch videos and reactions to The Owl House. One of my overall favorite episodes of this show.
Being in the mind of Belos isn’t just a wake-up call for Hunter, but more than enough for Luz to realize she unknowingly set the stage for who he really is and what he would become.
You could actually already tell Darius was working with Raine in the previous episode: the little abomination that delivered the notes to Raine had a very distinct look that only Darius' abominations have
Witch-hunting is an excuse, he's evil but likes to pretend he's a hero. Also he blames witches for his brother's "betrayal" and death, despite him having killed him
The Virgin Helluva Boss Reactor: Figures out that Blitzo is Loona's adopted dad in episode 3 because he explicitly said so out loud, even though he had ALREADY explicitly said it out loud in the pilot. The Chad The Owl House Reactor: Figures out that Hunter is a clone of Phillip's dead brother because of vague details in a book that was onscreen for 2 seconds at the beginning of season 2 episode 9, even though it wouldn't be revealed until 7 episodes (and 8 months) later.
the "king is a titan" theory had been floating around the fanbase for quite a while, even during s1, so you definitely weren't alone with those observations. though there was some debate about what that meant for the guy that gave king the letter (that hooty ate) that looked like an older member of king's species. some people said that that disproved the titan theory. other people said maybe titans live a very long time and that dude wasn't actually an adult, or that maybe titans can change sizes. but i'm not gonna tell you what group (if any) was correct.
can't reason with crazy... that same line was made by luz and that made it such a human and strong line below used that line and ignore the rest while luz used that line to try to connect to said crazy
Certainly he was influencing the Isles far longer than that, but I guess the formal office of emperor is relatively new. He took his time planting the seeds and did not rush things
Ok! Bit late, but i have two comments i was waiting for this episode so i could make: 1 - Remember in the Amity/Hunter episode, after he sees there is no blood, declares he has failed, and starts digging his own grave. Turns out, kid's got a point! 2 - I don't remember the episode, but when we first saw the "Grimwalker" recipe one the ground, could read the ingredients. One of them was the barf thing from the giant sea serpent thing that they were trying to catch in the "bounty hunters" episode. Which Hunter himself was sent to collect.
Dude this was huge, Belos is so frightening and the voice acting on hunters side was amazing. I can’t wait to see all this. It’s January 19th this is part 35/?
"Hollow Mind" is about self-deception. The fake past Phillip had created was not for others, it was for himself. He viewed himself as a hero, destroying evil. And that is why this episode is such a great episode: all of us are the heroes of our own narrative, in our minds. It's very hard to see yourself from a distance and evaluate yourself as "evil": we all find justifications for what we do.
They’re from Connecticut But just like in Salem Massachusetts they had witch trials in Connecticut to not to mention the show, picked up a Peabody award and as of right now and pick as the most popular animated series in the country by TV guide
That was a great reaction, and I really enjoyed your extended review and thoughts on this episode and its implications. I'll always be horrified about the idea of someone going through such lengths to make a grimwalker out of his own brother/friend. We know that one of the ingredients (Shown in Eclipse Lake, and we can see skeletal remains in Elsewhere and Elsewhen─although not sure if those were from Caleb) is "bone of ortet" which means bone from original source. The idea that Philip must have stolen/taken Caleb's body, and then basically cut it into pieces to use a part of it in a magic ritual is just....I can't wrap my head around it.
Just some fun info, LUZ means "light" in spanish and portugueses, which is funny cause the first magic she learns is a light glyph. Commenting now cause you already finished the whole series, but hey, if any of you didnt, stop reading here! . . . . . . . Its impresive how much you got right 😂, you are really good at theories. I remember when i was watching the first time and I got totally surprised by king. Phillip was a buit on the nose but hunter was also a little surprising of what he is and who he was.
I'm glad you picked up on the fact that Belos's plan, this whole day of unity, is genocide - like capital G genocide - on witch-kind, and that it comes from his puritanical upbringing that viewed witchcraft as this satanic temptation. That nuance is something that... basically every reactor I've watched, hasn't picked up on yet by this episode.
Without spoilers-- saying brothers is a fair assumption! In Yesterday's Lie, Jacob (the muesem dude) says that two brothers got taken to the demon realm, and in the background in the same epsiode, there's a statue of two men we assume are the brothers! They look a lot like "Caleb" and Phillip. As for "I wonder if he killed his brother" one of the background photo frames does show Phillip approaching him with a knife
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I feel like I should tell you that Hunter didn't come up with the name Caleb, if you look back in the episode Any Sport In A Storm, Flapjack flew on his shoulder and tweeted and Hunter asked him "Caleb?", it was Flapjack who told him the name
Ahhh I totally do not remember that haha. Thank you for clarifying
Luz, S1 E14: "This mama is ready for trauma!"
Ooh, boy that did not age well. I think we were all pretty traumatized, especially poor Hunter. This is the episode that truly changed the course of the series.
Ah yes, the episode that screamed "HEY! BELOS IS A PSYCHO! JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW!" "Oh also make sure to pause at every painting to get even half of the full story!" **Wink** XD
I did that! It’s in the thoughts and review section of the video
so glad you went back and looked at the paintings! a lot of reactors didn’t and without it you can have a whole different outlook/miss important parts of belos’ story. plus since it’s a pretty dark backstory for disney and/or we don’t have many episodes left, I don’t know if a lot of the full story will reappear again. we’re lucky we got it in this way!
This one was too important for me to not do that, especially because I could tell those portraits were very important. I was too caught up in the hype of the episode to really analyze them during the reaction, so I knew I wanted to rewatch it right away
I hope someone told him ahead of time to pay attention to the backgrounds this episode
He cant stop the video, so he went back and made a separate thoughts video
@@elviiralehtonen1604You are smart
That is a fact
@@kittyfallenangel5 yes thank you i am infact very smart
When Luz & King were talking back and forth on the walkie-talkies, King actually did speak Spanish, Luz was just saying that her lingo she said wasn’t Spanish
Oooooooooh. Ok I didn’t catch that. Thank you
Thanks that’s helpful
@@MikeyVenture Luz said she's with "Echo Delta Alpha" which in the NATO phonetic alphabet, just means "Eda". King thought that she was speaking Spanish. Whoever wrote that joke did a great job
@@renloureiro181 I never understood this moment before!!! But now I do, THANK you XD
@@DeathKitta glad to help! I only caught it in my second watch
The way that Hunter stayed deep in denial about Belos true nature even when evidence was presented straight to his face just showed him how much he admired and looked to him. All that love, all that loyalty… and for what? To realize that he’s a pawn? That he doesn’t care about him? That he’s not the first of his kind and he probably won’t be the last?
Goddamn, this show really knows how to hit us where it hurts…
Don’t forget that learning you’re not human to being with is kind of scary. Your biology is suddenly not what you’d expect it to be, and you don’t know what could happen
@@ma.2089 true because Hunter is human/witch which he got scared and confused because of that and because of belos
King's line: 'No one wants to think they've wasted their life following the wrong person.'
really made me think of modern life.
especially when he says "Who knows how mind scapes work anyways" after claiming to have studied them...
he was conditioned to denounce everyone else including his own expertise in favor of making Belos good
8:33 There's a lot to love about this episode, a lot of lore and reveals and drama, but I always really liked this tiny scene too. The moment Hooty mentions Hunter Darius goes from "we can't get involved, sorry" to "Wait, that's MY angry blonde kid, we have to help!". He *does* care :3
Back in "Yesterday's Lie", we were told "Two brothers were lured into a realm of evil by a real witch", and there was a picture, and two statues earlier in the episode. The two brothers looked like Philip and Hunter, down to the bird on Philip's brother's shoulder looking like Flapjack, so it's fairly reasonable to go ahead and say "brother"...
this is so important!
An interesting detail about the grimwalker book, one of the ingredients is the "bone of ortet" which is a fancy name for the original that a clone is made from. Also in "Elsewhere and Elsewhen" when Phillip crawls back to his home cave, in the back there's a skeleton under a sheet by a picture of grimwalker ingredients, so we are left to assume that he was
literally living with his corpse for years while he figured out how to make grimwalkers.
Eda managed to sum up the episode perfectly in just one sentence: "How in the world did you-- no, we don't have time for that."
In any sport in the storm Flapjack is actually the one to suggest the name Caleb
"They're still alive" "Then we still have some work to do" Idk why but thats a terrifying line. Just casually revealing the purpose of the coven sigils
Some intresting details:
Hunter's name isnt a name at all its a title, short from Witch Hunter
Collector is surely one of the best characters he has such fantastic,, Bill Cipher energy".
And finally this episode has shown us how good of an villan Belos truly is.
I think I can go ahead and guess that this was probably your favourite episode of season 2
i bet if we ever meet all the previous guards, they're all named killer or destroyer or something. Philip is the kind of douche to keep repeating the same joke over and over
Oh my god, I did NOT even think about what Hunter’s name was likely based on. 😳 That’s…horrifying!
They are from Connecticut, where witch trials took place even before the Salem ones.
This episode was wild and full of answers about belos. IS my favorite episode.
Mike, check all the painting, because is important to solve everthing
This is the episode that made Belos/Phillip one of absolute favorite Disney Villains of all time. He's Powerful, Cunning, Manipulative, Very Charismatic, and he can be pretty Scary when he wants to be. Plus he has a really cool design and a great voice actor. And as an added bonus, he's an irredeemable sociopath that the protagonist can't just Talk-no-Jutsu into losing. He checks all of my boxes, and then some, for Favorite Disney Villains.
The pain, the trauma, the emotions. Nothing says a show for kids aged 7-11 like that... huh
This has to be one of my favourite episodes, the story telling was fantastic here and the fact that we were shown that Belos was Philip before this makes the reveal to Luz feel more emotional in my opinion
(SPOILERS BELOW FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET)
Belos is an absolutely terrifying villain and actually one of my favorite villains of all time because he's just so realistic. His backstory aligns with real history very well, the way he manipulated everyone and came to power in the Boiling Isles is really believable, his personality is perfect for a manipulator/tyrant and him killing his brother for betraying his goals after trying to change his mind for a while is the icing on the cake. There are also a lot of parallels between Luz/Hunter and Philip/Caleb that make me like Belos even more.
And I also really like how the Collector is basically the opposite of him. He's childish, gets manipulated easily, hurts people for the hell of it because he's too immature to know any better, doesn't need long complex plans to do what he wants and is probably one of the strongest beings in the realm with a crazy strong version of that magic Philip hated so much. And yet Philip managed to "get along" with him for centuries to achieve his goals.
The binging of the "shit gets real" part of owl house. This is one of the best episodes of the whole show IMO, so many things. This really is an episode you need to rewatch and pay attention to the details and more specifically the background. Seriously theres a whole second story burried in the paintings in this episode and its really cool.
And fun fact, you said this could be a season finale. And for a while i thought it was because I watched it on Disney plus and for whatever reason Disney waited a long while to bring the last few episodes over so for almost a month I though this episode with hunter running off and such was the end of the season.
Great reaction. Its been a rough day and watching these really cheered me up!
I’m sorry you’ve had a bad day and I hope it improves!
I enjoyed hearing your thoughts and theories! Definitely liked how you rewatched it and heard your collective thoughts just in general.
Too much happened in this episode for me to not do that haha
"wouldn't it be funny if Caleb was his name"
Weeeeeeeell.....
25:06 Rascal gave him that name because he was previously Caleb's palisman. But his real name is Hinter
“It does feel good to hear another human say that name. I had to change it when ‘Philip’ was run out of too many towns…” - Emperor Belos
"Nobody wants to believe they wasted their whole life being wrong"
Paraphrased, but that line so perfectly encapsulates this episode. The citizens of the Isles, Hunter, Luz, even Belos himself, all fall victim to this in some way or another.
The Connecticut Witch Trials happened about 30 years before the Salem Witch Trials, so perfectly in line with Philip.
Whatever thought when they watched this episode.
TRAUMA! TRAUMA EVERYWHERE!
Spoilers beyond this point:
So major stuff to explain
1. Belos was theorized to be Human from the moment we saw his staff. And him being Philip was also theorized. Plus the scene with Hunter.... Yeah the Grimwalker/Clone thing was foreshadowed I think in the same episode that Belos had a casual face reveal. Which could have been Esclipse lake since there could have been an open book showing off the eyes of a Grimwalker matching the color of Hunter's eyes.
2. For who Hunter is a clone of, Belos... Philip... Philos?(I just wanna see what weird name I can give him)... said to Hunter: "Out of all the Grimwalkers you look the most like him." Him could refer to Philip' brother who we see as a statue in the town of Gravesfield during the episode Yesterday's Lie.
3. Flapjack seeing Hunter's face for the first time back in Hunting Palasmin also supports that the Red Cardinal had seen him before. Hinting that the Palasmin belonged to the guy that Hunter is a clone of. Philip's brother who is unnamed at this point. Which makes Flapjack be one of the oldest Palasmin to exist aside from the Bat Queen herself. Since Philip is a Witch Hunter. Which was something back in the 1600s. Famous example being the witch trials of Salem but they also occured in Connecticut years before the ones in Salem. So that's historically accurate regarding when and where Philip is from.
4. Philip f***Ing killed his own brother for marrying a witch! As in the background we see painting of events that Philip had experienced. One of which shows Philip's brother and a witch together. The latter looking pregnant and is theorized to be a Clawthrone. We also see Philip and his brother fighting with knifes. And we see his brother dead on the ground laying in the same position as the Titan.
-The last one pretty much tells us that Philip never had a connection with the titan while his brotehr could have had one.
The owl house isn't a good place for Hunter to be right now, he's confused and scared, he doesn't trust them and he needs to talk to people he does trust, now, who does he trust again?, hmmm....
Very good point
More like Full Mind, the amount of information they gave us this episode... I remember exactly where I was when this came out, it really hit that hard.
It's interesting the way they do reveals here, obviously it's not a surprise to the audience that Belos is Philip, and that Philip is from 1600s Connecticut (where they actually had the first witch trials in the colonies, decades before Salem!), and the fan theorists had also already decided that Hunter was a grimwalker. Though, the fact he wasn't the *first* did still come as a shock. But I think the biggest reveal we get in this episode is that Belos... really is just that evil. He doesn't have good intentions gone wrong, they're not trying to excuse his actions with a tragic backstory, he isn't even after money or power like many other villains; he literally just wants to kill everyone. He disguises himself as a scared child in his mindscape to elicit sympathy from Luz specifically, because he knows she doesn't trust him, but he also knows she's a kind and sympathetic person who's helped him before. He even points it out to Luz, she may not have fallen for his 'charismatic leader' act, but she still has been very much manipulated by him as well. He's been using everyone around him for centuries and he has no remorse about it because he believes he is right.
I love when Hooty says Hunter is in the mind scape Darius is instantly concerned like "Oh no! My kid!". He's the father figure Hunter deserves.
Also, in the book for Grimwalkers it said Selkiedomous scales are needed to make one. In the selkiedomous episode, Hunter was sent to slay one for the emperor. Basically he was being sent to get the parts for his future replacement.
Just imagine the pain and turmoil we felt due to having to wait a week to see what happened next. What an ending! What an episode!
You know already since you're caught up and all, but, Them's the Breaks, Kid was quite literally the calm before the storm, considering the show does not slow down after that episode 😛
Also, there is tons of Phillip lore hidden in the background images of this episode, namely in the paintings. Did you catch them all? Hint: they provide a clue as to whom this "old friend" Belos mentions might be. Possibly.
I actually talk about them more in depth in the thoughts and review section of the video after the reaction :)
I love the background paintings basically tell exactly what happened with the brothers
If it hadn't been for Disney Dana would definitely have done a full episode about them. I would have loved to have seen that.
Welcome to the beginning..... Of an end.
Acronym: Seek The Key Fear T *_H_*
*Slaps hands together* now now now, where oh where do we begin :) Obviously this will be a long one!
Let's start.... From the beginning. You see those paintings in the background? It tells a story, and a dark one at that. Philip and his brother, young children. Then one day, his brother (calling him Wittebro until further notice) is lured into this world by a witch. Philip goes after him, maybe to save him. Somewhere along the way, he gets his goop curse, but it doesn't hinder him. After years of searching, he finds his brother, and despite his fear over his younger brother's curse, is happy that his brother is here.... And introduces him to his wife. The very witch who brought him here in the first place. A fight breaks out. Wittebro dies, the witch chases him away. But he doesn't leave. He stays in the Demon Realm, for _centuries_ trying to perfect his brother, to rid him of whatever corruption this world gave him. And that's where the Grimwalkers come in.
The fandom has had this theory since Eclipse Lake. The book at the beginning? Look closely. The diagram shows the exact same eye color as Hunter. The statues in Gravesfield? One looks exactly like him, while the other looks like Philip when he was younger (we see that in a painting). And finally, the nail in the coffin, Elsewhere and Elsewhen, we see the instructions and a dead body on the table.
Add the fact that Wittebro looks exactly like Hunter..... Meaning that he not only killed his brother, but used his body to create a dozen or so clones of him (search up ortet, it was in the book during EL). All that he murdered because they "betrayed" him.
Now, Hunter's a good kid. He wants to do what's best for the Isles. He thought that Belos had the same intentions. But not only did that turn out wrong (you can practically see him doing the mental gymnastics to prove that he's good despite the contrary), but his entire identity, his life, _everything_ he thought was real got stripped away and torn apart.
Just.
Like.
That.
Now onto Luz. She could have been collateral damage if it weren't for a single event. Helping Philip find the Collector. She thought that she was doing something good, just like Hunter. And just like him, that was torn apart. She probably thought that Philip died years ago, considering that he's from the 1600s, she didn't expect him to be alive. She didn't expect him to be Belos. She didn't expect this _at all._
And of course she's going to try to deny it until she can't, she's going to blame herself for everything that happened despite it not being her fault.
Probably one of the most disturbing parts of this episode is the fact that when Luz didn't "do him a favor and call him by his real name", Belos proceeded to use the memory of her in EaE just to hear her say "Philip."
And you know that Eda and the rebellion trio (Raine, Eber, and Darius) are going to blame themselves for not being able to protect the kids from the horrors that they went through.
Oh please don't apologise so glad you went back and noticed all of those details. Catching all those hints and backgrounds with the fandom when the episode aired was actually one of the most fun things so glad you're on the same page!
Oh yeah the episode that changes everything for the rest of the season can't wait to see your reaction
One of the *BEST* episodes!!!!!!
12:40 No, he's doing the manipulating. Remember when he got the Collector and said it had a use other than getting him home?
I will never not wish Hunter hadn't run away
It's very interesting seeing your reaction to Hunter being a Grimwalker being revealed here because you don't like, pause to read everything. Most reactors and a lot of the fandom do so it wasn't really a surprise to most people, because it's very obvious if you pause to really look at the book in Eclipse Lake, but if you don't then it's really surprising.
(At 13:18) 20 masks and seven portraits (1 on how their made and 6 on how they died)? That's upsetting.
I think what Luz was referring to when she said, "That wasn't Spanish," was the way she spoke to King over the walkie-talkie. He, not understanding her, thought she spoke in Spanish.
I don't know if I explain myself. 😅😅
No spoilers here! Just a reminder that there's a decent amount of clues in Ep.10 about Philip and his time in Gravesfield that could clarify/add to your theories!
In case you want to rewatch or dig around: look at the newspaper Vee picks up after Luz helps her out of the trap, the statue she passes by going to the coffee shop, and some of the lore that museum creep drops on her when he has her caged.
We got so much dumped on us in this episode, so it was really cool to see you go back and dig into it. I really like how you take the time to analyze and theorize in your reactions and I'm already super excited for the wild ride were about to go on straight to the finale!
Actually there were witch trails in Connecticut _before_ the Salem Witch Trails. The first witch hunt was lead by Jacob Hopkins (I think that's his name) where he had 11 "witches" executed.
This is my favorite episode of the series (or well, one of them). It's so good!! I had to watch it 3 times, and the 3rd time I paused frame by frame to collect the story in the paintings. It's a very good way to tell belos' story with the short time we had. And I feel so bad for Hunter in this episode, especially because he's my favorite character.
Months later, I just realized something I've been completely overlooking: Belos' refusal to let people study more than one track is an important flaw in his plan! If Terra had known anything about Bard magic, she might have known Raine could neuter the potions she was giving them.
Well, his own coven, "the best of the best" spend their schoolyears focusing on one track too, and they seem outright incompetent a lot of the time, so it's safe to assume Belos is intentionally making witches weaker even on "his" side, regardless if it makes his plans flawed.
Poor Hunter. This episode hurts my soul for him
11:09 That's important, it shows what he did to his brother
Raine was talking to Darius, the abomination had the same hair and he's the head of the abomination coven
I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it in the comments but we have seen The Collector before! It was in Knock
Knock Knocking on Hooty’s Door. The Collector is the one that captures the Owlbeast :)
FAVORITE EPISODE
This episode was incredible on so many levels. Characters, story, world building, mystery...
I remember watching it on the day it aired and being in absolute shock.
Emperor Belos is truly scary especially if you look deeper into his actions.
Amazing reaction as always. I absolutely love the work and energy you put in all of your videos. Thank you so much. This made my day
It's weird that Hunter thinks Belos has never done anything worthy of feeling guilt, and that he has "pure intentions", even though Belos has already threatened to kill him before. In the Eclipse Lake episode, Hunter was sure Belos would kill him, to the point he was digging his own grave. How can he be so afraid of someone with pure intentions, who does nothing wrong? Obviously someone who does nothing wrong wouldn't be someone you'd expect to kill you. Unless Hunter someone believes killing people for not doing as you ask is justified (and even "pure"), which is even more messed up.
Just something else to think about: Hunter actually didn't come up with the name Caleb, it was suggested to him by Flapjack.
"The collector is giving me bill vibes" YASSSSSSSSS
I believe the Whittebane brother's are from Connecticut. Specifically Gravesfeild, which is where Luz grew up (not an irl place but is based off of one I think). But I think they moved there from elsewhere.
Luz and Philip are from Gravesfield, Connecticut.
Ah yes! The episode that not only was incredibly hyped up by the crew but exceeded expectations! My favorite episode no doubt.
And I like that you mentioned in the beginning that Hunter knows Luz’s name but has never said it,, until he saves her life in the end of the episode. Which is a nice little touch!
Because let’s be real, those two BOTH saved the other’s life this episode. So they are definitely closer than they were just a little while ago 😅
Woah, I just realised that Darius must've known that Hunter was a Grimwalker. That's crazy to me because I've watched this series twice by myself and have had a whole reactors montage to this show as well. In this episode Hunter mentions something about Darius looking sad in one of Belos's memories regarding the Golden gaurd. Perhaps this is what triggered him to feel inclined to giving Hunter the opportunity to live his own life, and maybe even motivated him to turn against the emperor..
This was a very big episode, and the point where I started to watch videos and reactions to The Owl House. One of my overall favorite episodes of this show.
psst, FlapJack actually suggests Hunter call himself Caleb
Being in the mind of Belos isn’t just a wake-up call for Hunter, but more than enough for Luz to realize she unknowingly set the stage for who he really is and what he would become.
You could actually already tell Darius was working with Raine in the previous episode: the little abomination that delivered the notes to Raine had a very distinct look that only Darius' abominations have
Witch-hunting is an excuse, he's evil but likes to pretend he's a hero. Also he blames witches for his brother's "betrayal" and death, despite him having killed him
The Virgin Helluva Boss Reactor: Figures out that Blitzo is Loona's adopted dad in episode 3 because he explicitly said so out loud, even though he had ALREADY explicitly said it out loud in the pilot.
The Chad The Owl House Reactor: Figures out that Hunter is a clone of Phillip's dead brother because of vague details in a book that was onscreen for 2 seconds at the beginning of season 2 episode 9, even though it wouldn't be revealed until 7 episodes (and 8 months) later.
“This is when I inherited my staff!” Uhhhhmmm I don’t know whether this was confirmed, but I always thought that that wasn’t…quite true. 😬
The pictures in the background throughout the episode show Belos's story
Yep! I talk about them after the reaction :)
I kinda saw the twist with Belos coming since “Keeping Up AFearances”
Oh yeah I think I predicted it 4-5 episodes before that
Mikey: let's see what hollow mind has to offer
Me: Trauma nothing but trauma
*PLOT TWIST!*
the "king is a titan" theory had been floating around the fanbase for quite a while, even during s1, so you definitely weren't alone with those observations. though there was some debate about what that meant for the guy that gave king the letter (that hooty ate) that looked like an older member of king's species. some people said that that disproved the titan theory. other people said maybe titans live a very long time and that dude wasn't actually an adult, or that maybe titans can change sizes. but i'm not gonna tell you what group (if any) was correct.
can't reason with crazy... that same line was made by luz
and that made it such a human and strong line
below used that line and ignore the rest
while luz used that line to try to connect to said crazy
“He’s been the emperor for the last 50 years” Uhhhh something tells me it’s been a LOT longer than that.
Certainly he was influencing the Isles far longer than that, but I guess the formal office of emperor is relatively new. He took his time planting the seeds and did not rush things
Holy cungadero, he understood perfectly, all he was wrong about was the collector stuff
Ok! Bit late, but i have two comments i was waiting for this episode so i could make:
1 - Remember in the Amity/Hunter episode, after he sees there is no blood, declares he has failed, and starts digging his own grave. Turns out, kid's got a point!
2 - I don't remember the episode, but when we first saw the "Grimwalker" recipe one the ground, could read the ingredients. One of them was the barf thing from the giant sea serpent thing that they were trying to catch in the "bounty hunters" episode. Which Hunter himself was sent to collect.
Dude this was huge, Belos is so frightening and the voice acting on hunters side was amazing. I can’t wait to see all this. It’s January 19th this is part 35/?
"Hollow Mind" is about self-deception. The fake past Phillip had created was not for others, it was for himself. He viewed himself as a hero, destroying evil. And that is why this episode is such a great episode: all of us are the heroes of our own narrative, in our minds. It's very hard to see yourself from a distance and evaluate yourself as "evil": we all find justifications for what we do.
first thing i thought of when i saw the collector was bill. that happy wanting to have (psychotic )fun energy
Love how you also shared your thoughts and theories after rewatching the episode! Was really interesting:)
insane how good these calls are
Yesss the traumatized kids episode
(At 13:32) six potions and four arrows? How is _THIS_ not an ambush?
Three actually.
And how many Coven heads are against Belos again?
@@rainbowangel5264 Then that means… Belos already *knows* who's going to backstab him?
@@Samgreen90 yup 👍
They’re from Connecticut But just like in Salem Massachusetts they had witch trials in Connecticut to not to mention the show, picked up a Peabody award and as of right now and pick as the most popular animated series in the country by TV guide
Not to mention number 43 as television series in the country number one for animation
And as for the collector, already appeared in an episode, knock, knock, knocking on hooty door in the owl lady dream
That was a great reaction, and I really enjoyed your extended review and thoughts on this episode and its implications. I'll always be horrified about the idea of someone going through such lengths to make a grimwalker out of his own brother/friend. We know that one of the ingredients (Shown in Eclipse Lake, and we can see skeletal remains in Elsewhere and Elsewhen─although not sure if those were from Caleb) is "bone of ortet" which means bone from original source. The idea that Philip must have stolen/taken Caleb's body, and then basically cut it into pieces to use a part of it in a magic ritual is just....I can't wrap my head around it.
I’ve been waiting for this since you first had the Phillip belos thought
Just some fun info, LUZ means "light" in spanish and portugueses, which is funny cause the first magic she learns is a light glyph.
Commenting now cause you already finished the whole series, but hey, if any of you didnt, stop reading here!
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Its impresive how much you got right 😂, you are really good at theories.
I remember when i was watching the first time and I got totally surprised by king. Phillip was a buit on the nose but hunter was also a little surprising of what he is and who he was.
Ah yes, the moment when the "kids show" turns out to be pretty freaking DARK 😘
It's crazy that covens are just used for the draining spell.
3:24 Don't feel dumb, Luz meant that she wasn't speaking spanish, King thought she was because he didn't recognize the words
I MISSED THE PREVIEW???? HELLO IM LATE BUT IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS OH YMG OFD
I don't mind at all that the commentary section is longer. That's my favorite part!
I'm glad you picked up on the fact that Belos's plan, this whole day of unity, is genocide - like capital G genocide - on witch-kind, and that it comes from his puritanical upbringing that viewed witchcraft as this satanic temptation. That nuance is something that... basically every reactor I've watched, hasn't picked up on yet by this episode.
16:03 Replacement Profile picture for some time in the future ;) One of my favorite Hooty Moments. Had to watch it like 3 times in a row XD
This is that episode I was talking about a few videos back. I wonder how the reaction will go…
I for one love long videos, it's great hearing peoples thoughts.
12:26: Thank you! I was waiting for you to say that! XD
Belos is really a trojan horse. That's crazy.
Without spoilers-- saying brothers is a fair assumption! In Yesterday's Lie, Jacob (the muesem dude) says that two brothers got taken to the demon realm, and in the background in the same epsiode, there's a statue of two men we assume are the brothers! They look a lot like "Caleb" and Phillip.
As for "I wonder if he killed his brother" one of the background photo frames does show Phillip approaching him with a knife
This is going to be fun