@John G Not necessarily, considering Seven is bisexual: in Picard she starts dating Raffi Musiker and it’s implied she had previously had a relationship with Bjayzl. It’s logic to asume her initial relation with Chakotay was not a long term one. Personally I have always shipped Seven and Janeway.
Seven could be a "good" Borg Queen....There's no automatic requirement for the Borg to be evil. In fact, they are not even truly evil, they are just without any type of 'moral' guidance. Seven has had the chance to relearn right from wrong thanks to Janeway's guidance.
The next evolution of the Borg would be to assimilate Seven's experiences and as a result, she would become Mother/Queen to the new collective. THIS would be a great premise for her own spin-off and would DEFINITELY set her at odds with not only her old friends but also the entire Federation itself. It would definitely destroy this good vs evil myth-- of which the Borg as seen as evil or the enemy-- and really put the Prime Directive to the fore. Morality is a human quality and as a human quality is subjective based on so many different factors, mostly cultural. The closet to a unified code of Morality would be the Prime Directive and the laws around that. So it would be nice to see this being challenged without being preachy or hypocritically sanctimonious; like some of the earlier series tended to be. It would also showcase what it means to be human in a bio-mechanical construct.
They need to assimilate to evolve. Not assimilating means stopping to grow and to evolve. Not sure if they'd be able to work with something like "voluntary assimilation".
Maybe by 7 of 9 becoming the new keeper of the Borg, it changes the nature of the Borg. The Borg always had an interest in humanity, even from their first encounter in TNG. The even turned Picard into a sort of "representative". That in of itself was very unusual for them. Also in all seriousness, the Borg Collective is enormous as we saw in Voyager. If they really had wanted to assimilate not just the Federation, but the entire alpha quadrant, they could have swarmed in and done it on mass. But they never did that, it was only small incursions, given what they would actually be capable of. Its possible that 7 of 9 was intentionally groomed to take on the role of queen. The Borg might have seen something in humanity that perhaps is so worth their interest in a higher pursuit of "perfection", a new step for the entire Collective. There is so much to consider. The Borg would know "Q" has an interest in humanity. Voyager helped them defeat Species 8472. I think the Borg decided not to fully assimilate humanity because there is a "quality" that they want but it must be done in a way that had not been able to fully grasp, and mere assimilation in their methods is incapable of attaining that new quality. So I see the entire thing with the Borg and 7 as they need her to be who she is to take the Borg to the next level.
Here's a theory: 7 changes the nature of the collective so that while still seeking perfection, it recruits members who agree to be assimilated rather than forcing it upon sentient beings.
It would make sense, a new queen basically meaning a paradigm shift in the operation of the collective, a new approach, adapting to the previous failed approach, which is in keeping with their nature.
@@SalinaMoonfall OMG we think alike.. she'd be a Queen/Mother to the NEW collective.. that would DEFINITELY create a huge power shift. It would also ensure that should a drone ever be disconnected from the collective, they would not lose their essence. In short, it's returning to the mindset of humans before this sacrosanct notion if Individualism. Before humans were part of tribes (collectives) and shared resources, energies, etc, though they were "individuals".. Match that times 1 million with unlimited resources and you got the new Borg.. A collective of those with the possibility of individualism. It doesn't have to be a dichotomy or a paradox.. in the former collective it was the will over the mind... this is would be minds BECOMING the will. The queen after all is the one who directs it, becomes the conduit/vestige/cynosure/voice of the collective. With the New Collective, they become the children of the Mother.
They are going to have to be very careful how they treat Seven if they make her a Borg queen. She will have to be a good queen if this happens.The long time fans will totally despise the show writers if this happens if she becomes an evil queen, most of us long time fans will not like this one bit, but a good queen is a different thing altogether, or one that wants justice. Seven is now into justice for wrongs.
You have to have the best of both worlds, the Romulans have proven to have cloneing technology and the borg have the ability to speed up maturation plus their is the lantern of the Jem'Hadar (Cloning and stable groth acceleration) Seven becomes Queen and in order to temper the collective in a solution created by her friends trying to help her she makes a clone of Picard to revive Locutus. The Queen rules the Collective with Locutus at her side. That way they can still make it about Picard in the end.
@@nickm9102 Interesting story idea Nicholas. This might work creating a clone of Picard, if they still have access to his cells or DNA. However the real conscience of Picard in the android body would still have to survive at the end of the series. The only way a Borg with Seven would work for fans is if these Borg were different than the rest of the collective and were not trying to assimulate everyone in sight. Reformed Borg as it were with their humanity restored ideally as what was happening at the start of the Picard series.
@@ThePopcast I think your possible storyline in your video is a good idea! ... of Seven struggling with whether to help the Borg who are disconnected by being a queen even if only temporary, and possibility risk loosing her humanity, or to prevent the Borg from taking over the quadrant again would be an interesting storyline. I would love to see any of the Voyager cast back again even as guest roles and Seven get her own limited series. In the end, fans would not like Seven loose her individuality I think and they would prefer she remain a champion of justice. Let's hope the writers get her story right.
Having a Borg Queen who isnt out for complete genocidal amalgamation of all life in the galaxy would be a very good thing. Imagine if the entirety of the Borg Collective was a force for Good and formed the backbone of a grander, actually free-er, more powerful Federation. A Federation of peoples who gain a unique insight into other citizens by being able to share in their most intimate emotional states (consensually of course), share insights over lightyears with a sort of subconscious "Hive Mind" that can be called upon to solve the deepest questions of the Universe. Here is something I am supposing. Let's harken back to when Q first appeared to Picard and then later he focused ever so briefly on Riker and they had the discussion as found here: th-cam.com/video/5rEsbhVr6aE/w-d-xo.html This was in one of the earliest TNG episodes, where Q offered Riker the greatest "gift" he could conceive, that of becoming a Q. The Q, bear in mind, are basically the very epitome of Biological Evolution and have seemingly total and limitless power over the very universe itself. But there was a cost. They were all "cut off" from one another and while they lived together in the Q Continuum they were all still just themselves. They had no real Unity. They had no common purpose to bring them together. They had no purpose at all in fact. They exist just to exist and while the Q we had the most contact with as that Imp who loved to annoy Star Fleet Captains the others seemed almost stagnant and edified. Perhaps the fear that Q had was two-fold. He would obviously have known of this competing "Collective" of Artificial Lifeforms which seem to be another group for which they have become the epitome of purely Artificial Lifeforms with no biological component and while they may have Unity, they would also lack Individuality. The two competing concepts of Individuality and Unity brought to their logical extremes are embodied by these two "competing" Pantheons of what amount to supremely powerful Beings who both suffer the costs of their isolation due to their overindulgence of the concept of Unity or the concept of Individuality. In both cases it has led to inevitable stagnation. Maybe the fear of Humanity that Q spoke on was the idea that they may serve as the bridge between the Biological and the Artificial and that one day we would be the vanguard of a new Collective born of both the biological and the synthetic. A Unity not of 1 singular mind and purpose but a Unity of Equals who while we may seek our own goals we are still capable of understanding one another at a much, much deeper level than could ever really be achieved without the synthesis of organic and synthetic. Maybe that game series Mass Effect had it right with its finale in which the opportunity was presented to imbue all life in the Universe with both organic and artificial components. Perhaps the doom of all life is born of the despair between two extremes and the only way forward is to embody the best of both organic and artificial and become something....More.
Spoiler Alert! After all this speculation about Seven being the new Borg Queen it turns out that Agnes is Assimilated by the Borg Queen and their minds melded, Agnes is on the way to become the new Borg Queen. Even Seven says to Raffi "You're witnessing the birth of a new Borg Queen."
There was an episode where she crash lands on a primitive planet and a playwright finds her, mistakes her for an "eternal (god/demigod/angel thing)" and be'lanna helps him write a play where 7 is secretly the Borg queen. When seven firsts arrives on voyager be'lanna refers to her as "the drone."
If Seven of Nine became the Borg Queen, innovation and imagination would sweep through the collective! New ship designs that were stylish and unique! Different kinds of armour for different kinds of drones! (Three guesses where I got THAT from!) New and downright frightening adaptation strategies would emerge! I want to see it!
Regarding the question of the Borg being destroyed by Janeway. I remember that in Voyager, it was never said that they had destroyed the Borg, but rather it was said, by someone, that they had "dealt a crippling blow" to the Borg. I think it likely that an empire as vast as what the Borg had, even taking into account the damage species 8472 had done, would have at least some kind of protection against data corruption at key points in the network so that they couldn't all be wiped out in an attack to a single point.
I think that with the Borg having a belief in the Collective being superior to all species they encounter, the bulk of their defensive capability is directed at those the plan to assimilate. The threat coming in the form of data corruption would not be given as much attention. The Borg concept of superiority extends beyond weaponry, tackle skill, to cyborg bioartificial intelligence superiority. That is the Borg Achilles heel. The hive mind is not capable of "thinking outside the box".
Interesting idea. I think one thing that Seven has learned is that the Borg path of assimilating others is not enough. You need creativity to form the future. Spontaneously I think of the vikings. They are remembered for their raids but they were settlers and traders too. The Borg could become much more if they stop only assimilating.
Doing that is denaturing the Borg... The Borg Collective is all about assimilation. No good nor evil, just getting closer to perfection through assimilation.
While I agree that we will see that Seven's arc and with her being the Borg queen, I think she will be the queen of a much different collective from what we've seen.
@@ThePopcastthe idea of perfection through assimilation seemed asinine. What I envision is a collective of *former drones: They still have their enhancement and still can work and communicate with the hive mind when needed, but are free to pursue personal perfection. Be the best Borg you can be type stuff through learning, exploration, living life, love, and loss. Stuff Seven of Nine has already learned. As the former queen once said, 'without order there is chaos' Seven is able to put everybody in order if they start to get too chaotic, kind of like yelling at the kids for jumping on the couch. I always assumed the Borg Queen kept her individuality. The Alice Krige version sure did. She was an "I" who had emotions like anger and lust.
I think you're onto something here. I expect there will be moments where Seven will be tempted and on the brink of becoming what the Borg have been, but will (through a scene like the video mentions with Chekote) overcome the temptation and birth a new kind of collective. At least I _hope_ so. The idea of Borg power and resource being expressed through *free* agents has intrigued me since childhood.
You give the writers on Picard too much credit. They wouldnt know Trek if it slapped them in the face. You however have an amazing story idea and would be lucky to have someone like you on their team. Nice job 😀
That's an interesting theory a dam good one, it definitely plausible and if done right would make one hell of a storyline. I can only hope the writers have something as good
I was wondering how she disconnected herself from the hive so easily. Now I can see that she was "created" for this moment and was able to come and go as she pleases....at least we hope. Now that she got a taste of her old home and the control she has over the Borg, she could easily jump into the queen role.
We’ve seen that the Borg fracture and break in the past. We can still have the perfection focused, amoral Borg collective we all love and fear while seven gathers ex-Borg and like minded allies into a different type of collective to which she is queen and individuality is retained, only briefly surrender in time of need for the New Collective. And thus the great Borg war begins… You can still have her struggle with the two sides of herself, how far she goes and her battles to stop herself going down the route of the original Borg collective. But you can’t turn Seven into a bad guy she fought so hard for her individuality. Undoing all that would be flat and disappointing.
I'll always liked Star Trek since I was a small child. This video was so well done and so informative. I really loved how your commentary got me so excited for the future. 7 was always a favorite on Voyager for me. I hope does happen, without becoming evil, which I think it will.
In Star Trek Online she is the queen of a group known as the Liberated Borg. She keeps her humanity and is still able to command the ragtag group while searching out other Borg disconnected from the main collective.
Interesting... now that Picard is a synth. He would easily access the the memories as Locutus without fear or barriers from his subconscious. What you suggest in Sevens plot maybe what's going on with Picard in the preview. Picard could be fighting himself from his memories as Locutus.... maybe he did like to be a borg at the time he was Locutus. If those feelings emerges to the surface, who would win... the human side or the borg? Q being there is perfect since it was him that brought this Borg arc in the first place... and maybe deliberately. Since his trail of humanity is ongoing... it makes sense. Guinan role in the story, I would assume be Picards advocate on his humanity. Ultimately I can wait for Season 2 and which other favorites.may show up.
halfway through season 2 and i just came across this. Enjoyable video, very good research and inductive deductions. it feels like this season will provide the origin of the borg, which bookends the introduction of the borg by Q in TNG's Encounter at Farpoint. The only critique is that the borg growth is more ikely logarithmic and not linear.
I had always wondered if the Borg Queen on the Voyager series was Seven's human mother and that was why the Queen seemed so enamored with Seven. I'd like some of these questions answered at some point. Such as what happened to Seven's human parents after they became assimilated? What if anything Seven remembers about being in the maturation chamber and becoming a drone. We've seen much of her path of regaining her humanity, but what are her thoughts about having that taken away from her again if she chooses to become the next Queen? It would probably take a spin-off series just to answer these questions.
What if...she holds onto her humanity after struggling with losing it only to become the new queen and effectively changes the Borg in a positive way where the regain the individual identities thus ending their reign of terror. Ya thats going to happen.
Love the positive thought on this, but I think we need the Borg to scare the crap out of us. A temporary ally against a big foe might be interesting though :)
It could be both. She could lead the free Borg, letting them control their own lives except in cases of severe emergency where one mind has to guide them all to save them. Then their could be the "classic" Borg that are the scary unfeeling monsters as well, since I doubt they're totally wiped out by Janeway.
Borg Queen? If Seven of Nine becomes Borg Queen it could destroy her character development and her arc. A former Borg who found her humanity. This could make Trek fans more and more angry and they've been angry enough with the Kelvin Timeline Star Trek movies. Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Picard.
Honestly, Picards Second Season can do naught but worse than this glorious scenario you sketched in this Video. KUDOS! Almost made me cry in the end. "What would Janeway think?"
I thought that too. To balance out Q and his power struggle... between The Q, Humans and The Borg. Someone will have to bring order back to the Borg. Q started the conflict with the Borg and humans. He should end it there or at least introduce a more civilized peace, between all of them.
Nothing made me more happy as a casual trek fan and go "That is cool." Yet also actually fill me with dread like I was a child again seeing Darth Vader. Than, when Seven's eyes went black, to green and we heard. "We are borg." It was a great moment, terrible, but great. Your theorycraft/speculations are amazing. Would love to see them come to flourishion.
The character Seven of Nine and Jeri Ryan making the character the brilliance from the beginning and what we see present day , is the greatest single character in the history of all the Star Trek's ... everything about her character and storyline , is golden .....
Remember what Q, who’s the protagonist this season said, “The trial never ends Mom Capitan”. Maybe he takes them back to the Borg controlled space. But I bet he’s got other hoop for Picard and crew to jump through that don’t completely involve the Borg.
Seven has certainly come a long way since she was a teacher at Boston Public. Amazon is selling a T-Shirt that says "Resistance is not Futile, it's Voltage divided by Current." (That's Ohm's Law.)
It is hard to imagine the Picard Production team allowing this, but the real question is, do you think the way we laid it out would be interesting? Make sure you watch how we wrapped it up before answering.
Enjoyable fanfiction and yeah, would be great to see her have her own series for this but...I have a feeling she's just going to end up human, in a relationship with some lovely lady and realize (perhaps through Guinan/Q) that she's not in her proper timeline ;)
@@TheNeonRabbit But the queen bee is not an "individual" in the sense of a matriarch or patriarch. She is an integral part of the hive, a cog in the machine. In bee hives drones and workers are also different as well, but all of them work together to form a greater body. Bees after all are eusocial insects. With that said, the concept of a borg queen never bothered me, but more how she was depicted, she was depicted as too individualistic, but I think a queen could have worked had it been done better.
Since Q is back, everyone forced into old habits or random situations, to see how they react and if they've grown? Force 7/Annika to pick between being Borg queen and humanity again?
As a huge fan of Voyager, just finished watching all 7 seasons, for the 7th time, I always loved the 7 of 9 character, to see her become the Borg queen would be an interesting move, but as stated, it does appear she's been groomed for this all along perhaps 7 can bring a more human element into the collective, it could have been the missing link to the Borgs "perfection " all along, let's just hope that, 7 can become a queen, without loosing her individual thought, the original Queen always had individual thought, but she lacked the compassion so needed in a good leader, this could very well be the turning point for the Borg. I'm now intrigued in the Picard series, just a shame it isn't available on Netflix.
The role of the blonde should be defendant. Anyway... I like the idea of Seven becoming Queen. I don't think she'll become bent on perfection but she'll be willing to do anything to save the Borg. Probably crossing the line into killing anyone that threatens them. She won't need to lose her individuality because her individuality has changed over the years. She went from drone to crewmember on a lost ship (small group of close family members), and when she was introduced to the larger "Home" of her family it was rotten, she became a hunter of the worst people the galaxy has to offer. The family on Voyager gave her hope she'd never experienced... Only for it to be taken away when they returned to the home she thought Voyager represented. The Federation failing to protect those in need, criminals roaming free and killing innocents (and her family) with no repercussions, Tal Shiar turning the Federation into a criminal element itself. As Queen she could start collecting the severed Borg until some minor race or political entity attacks them out of fear, she's forced to destroy their ship and all of the major powers decide the new Borg threat is too great (ignoring that it was self defense) and that could send her into an antagonistic arc. If she did anything truly evil, it would end her. She's already too damaged. Death would be her only atonement and I don't want to even consider that option. Although Paramount doesn't hold anything in Trek sacred anymore... It's just a cash cow they're going to milk until it dies then have a steak dinner. I wouldn't put anything past them now.
seven becomes the new queen, however, due to her experience with humanity, the collective that she controls isn't like the previous borg, they would be more like the borg from descent TNG, and maybe JUST maybe they become live in the alpha quad on a remote planet somewhere with the drones she's taken control of and helped them regain some of their memories and becoming a good version of the borg, but the OG borg queen would still control the Delta Quad Borg and seven would be Queen of the Alpha Quad Borg... Almost like Good vs Evil Borg.
That would be what I hope for if they do take her down a queen path. Seven has always been my favourite character I’d hate it if they undid all the progress she’s made. I think they could do allot of interesting things with maybe a partial mental connection to the oh delta Borg like seven going about teaching her Borg to be people again and helping people and she ‘sees’ the other queen who’s like why do you try theses futile efforts order would be more efficient. Probably ending up with the old Borg battling sevens new Borg and not understanding why the new Borg wins. Basically poking further at how individuality is beneficial and how hard it it’s for seven to fight her own people for it even though it’s not their fault and not being able to save all of them. If they turned her evil I’d probably never forgive them and I don’t think it’d go down well with other fans
It's possible, but I could also see her using the queen position to spread individuality and set up XB colonies or possibly even as a rival Borg faction that allies itself with the Federation.
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great video but am surprised you missed this huge point supporting your video. when 7 crashes with her original unimatrix she choses to take on the role of a queen to control the 3 other drones thats when i always assumed after that she was bein groomed as a queen
I would love to see the Picard season 1. I have to many damned Subscription services as it is. Roddenberry would want his show available to EVERYONE, not just the people that pay for it.
An interesting thoery. One note, Picard takes place in the Kelvin timeline. Direct comparisons to VOY aren't a good measure because that show, along with TNG, are in the Prime timeline (or Primeline, as I call it). Since Picard is the first show post Kelvin, we don't know how the new timeline altered the events we watched in TNG, VOY, or even DS9. Though the events in the shows may be the same, the outcomes and experiences of our favorite heroes may have been very different in the new timeline. As for why 7 is missing her implants in the STP2 trailer, I'm guessing that Q is responsible. Since series 1 dealt with mortality, I've wondered if this next series will deal with being comfortable with you are. What do y'all think?
Seven as a queen! i believe she would feel more at home than anywhere else. i believe her more recent found individuality would be in conflict with her desire and to feel like she "belongs".. i believe that as a borg queen, she would feel that her life has purpose. either way, i cant wait to see what the writers come up with.
Picard has a artificial heart since his "accident" in Academy times, so he was partly synthetic in TNG and even more so after his assimilation. So not that big of a news.
@@matteloht He had an artificial heart which is like a newer pacemaker we have now so its nothing like to being fully synthetic. Also after Wolf 356 all his implants and stuff were removed.
At the end of Season one Picards mind is transfered into a synthetic body. Still played by Patrick Stewart, so i'm unsure what was the Point. But that question sums of most of my Picard viewing experience.
@@comentedonakeyboard there was no point or reason to kill off Picard which has been done, same as killing Hugh who could have been great over a few seasons.
Given the woke filter being applied to everything now, it makes perfect sense for a female character to become ultra powerful. This is a good theory; I'm glad I saw this video. I'm now a subscriber.
Wow! That was fascinating! Lot of thought based on lore went into this. Too bad the writers at Paramount won't take this kind of effort to develop the character. 3 seasons of Discovery and 1 season of Picard is proof of that.
So, is "admiral" Janeway still a Borg drone? What did assimilating her do to the collective? Was she destroyed at the end of "Endgame" or just assimilated. I cant remember. And what happens when we get to the point in the timeline where "Admiral" went back in time. Wouldn't she have to do that again in order to ensure the creation of this new timeline where 7 lives ? Where is "Admiral"Janeway during the events of Picard?
With 7of 9 as the Borg Queen, the narrative possibilities are just shy of endless! Whether by intention or accident, Star Trek has created an intensely complex, conflicted character that deserves further exploration. Hell yeah, long live the Queen!
I can see the writing on the wall, she becomes queen of the Borg and liberates al the victim female drones keeps all the male drones as servants and leads the feminist movement across the galaxy.😅
As the character of TOS, Mr. Spock would say, "fascinating"; the greatest risk indeed would be the character Seven in her sacrifice to save the broken Borg to become that she fought so hard not to revert.
I would LOVE to see a Seven Spin off! I love her character.
@John G LMFAO
It will be interesting as she may be sympathetic to life to leave it alone.
@John G whats wrong with that ?
7 of 9 killed Star Trek
@John G Not necessarily, considering Seven is bisexual: in Picard she starts dating Raffi Musiker and it’s implied she had previously had a relationship with Bjayzl. It’s logic to asume her initial relation with Chakotay was not a long term one. Personally I have always shipped Seven and Janeway.
Seven could be a "good" Borg Queen....There's no automatic requirement for the Borg to be evil. In fact, they are not even truly evil, they are just without any type of 'moral' guidance. Seven has had the chance to relearn right from wrong thanks to Janeway's guidance.
Outstanding point. Think of the technology she could give the Federation
But if the timeline gets reset then Seven isn’t Seven as she never encounters the Borg and is never assimilated….
The next evolution of the Borg would be to assimilate Seven's experiences and as a result, she would become Mother/Queen to the new collective. THIS would be a great premise for her own spin-off and would DEFINITELY set her at odds with not only her old friends but also the entire Federation itself. It would definitely destroy this good vs evil myth-- of which the Borg as seen as evil or the enemy-- and really put the Prime Directive to the fore. Morality is a human quality and as a human quality is subjective based on so many different factors, mostly cultural. The closet to a unified code of Morality would be the Prime Directive and the laws around that. So it would be nice to see this being challenged without being preachy or hypocritically sanctimonious; like some of the earlier series tended to be. It would also showcase what it means to be human in a bio-mechanical construct.
@@creativewriter3887 : Oooooo! VERY nicely stated! Excellent thoughts on this potential avenue of development for Seven's character.
They need to assimilate to evolve. Not assimilating means stopping to grow and to evolve. Not sure if they'd be able to work with something like "voluntary assimilation".
Seven spin-off? Oh, yes, please.
With Kurtzman? No.
Borg drones are not villains, they're victims.
Eh, I see it more as Stockholm syndrome
Yes, they're victims, and the new Borg Queen will set them free. Whoever wants to become Borg will do it by free will.
It's not the people it's the AI that started the Borg. Basically SKYNET instead of destroying biological life it embraces it and is better with both.
2 partie system isnt a choice. America is a 3rd world country
@@ultrasometimes8908 Vote third-party then.
I love Seven of Nine as a character and Jeri Ryan who plays her is amazing 🤩
@Asim Malik And you wasted your time watching this video. What does that say about you? It makes one wonder...
Maybe by 7 of 9 becoming the new keeper of the Borg, it changes the nature of the Borg. The Borg always had an interest in humanity, even from their first encounter in TNG. The even turned Picard into a sort of "representative". That in of itself was very unusual for them. Also in all seriousness, the Borg Collective is enormous as we saw in Voyager. If they really had wanted to assimilate not just the Federation, but the entire alpha quadrant, they could have swarmed in and done it on mass. But they never did that, it was only small incursions, given what they would actually be capable of. Its possible that 7 of 9 was intentionally groomed to take on the role of queen. The Borg might have seen something in humanity that perhaps is so worth their interest in a higher pursuit of "perfection", a new step for the entire Collective. There is so much to consider. The Borg would know "Q" has an interest in humanity. Voyager helped them defeat Species 8472. I think the Borg decided not to fully assimilate humanity because there is a "quality" that they want but it must be done in a way that had not been able to fully grasp, and mere assimilation in their methods is incapable of attaining that new quality. So I see the entire thing with the Borg and 7 as they need her to be who she is to take the Borg to the next level.
to the next level...& Beyond...huh?
I would love a show focused on 7. Love that character!
Here's a theory: 7 changes the nature of the collective so that while still seeking perfection, it recruits members who agree to be assimilated rather than forcing it upon sentient beings.
So... basically Borg Cooperative from that one episode of Voyager?
I work on it❗
So the federation?
It would make sense, a new queen basically meaning a paradigm shift in the operation of the collective, a new approach, adapting to the previous failed approach, which is in keeping with their nature.
@@SalinaMoonfall OMG we think alike.. she'd be a Queen/Mother to the NEW collective.. that would DEFINITELY create a huge power shift. It would also ensure that should a drone ever be disconnected from the collective, they would not lose their essence. In short, it's returning to the mindset of humans before this sacrosanct notion if Individualism. Before humans were part of tribes (collectives) and shared resources, energies, etc, though they were "individuals".. Match that times 1 million with unlimited resources and you got the new Borg.. A collective of those with the possibility of individualism. It doesn't have to be a dichotomy or a paradox.. in the former collective it was the will over the mind... this is would be minds BECOMING the will. The queen after all is the one who directs it, becomes the conduit/vestige/cynosure/voice of the collective. With the New Collective, they become the children of the Mother.
New Drinking game: Take a shot everytime TPC narrator says "Lets get back to that in a moment"
Sounds like Biden's Psaki...."We'll circle back to that."
They are going to have to be very careful how they treat Seven if they make her a Borg queen. She will have to be a good queen if this happens.The long time fans will totally despise the show writers if this happens if she becomes an evil queen, most of us long time fans will not like this one bit, but a good queen is a different thing altogether, or one that wants justice. Seven is now into justice for wrongs.
You have a good point here. Let us know if you think the way we wrap it up at the end of this video would make the fans happy?
You have to have the best of both worlds, the Romulans have proven to have cloneing technology and the borg have the ability to speed up maturation plus their is the lantern of the Jem'Hadar (Cloning and stable groth acceleration) Seven becomes Queen and in order to temper the collective in a solution created by her friends trying to help her she makes a clone of Picard to revive Locutus. The Queen rules the Collective with Locutus at her side. That way they can still make it about Picard in the end.
@@nickm9102 Interesting story idea Nicholas. This might work creating a clone of Picard, if they still have access to his cells or DNA. However the real conscience of Picard in the android body would still have to survive at the end of the series. The only way a Borg with Seven would work for fans is if these Borg were different than the rest of the collective and were not trying to assimulate everyone in sight. Reformed Borg as it were with their humanity restored ideally as what was happening at the start of the Picard series.
@@ThePopcast I think your possible storyline in your video is a good idea! ... of Seven struggling with whether to help the Borg who are disconnected by being a queen even if only temporary, and possibility risk loosing her humanity, or to prevent the Borg from taking over the quadrant again would be an interesting storyline. I would love to see any of the Voyager cast back again even as guest roles and Seven get her own limited series. In the end, fans would not like Seven loose her individuality I think and they would prefer she remain a champion of justice. Let's hope the writers get her story right.
Having a Borg Queen who isnt out for complete genocidal amalgamation of all life in the galaxy would be a very good thing. Imagine if the entirety of the Borg Collective was a force for Good and formed the backbone of a grander, actually free-er, more powerful Federation. A Federation of peoples who gain a unique insight into other citizens by being able to share in their most intimate emotional states (consensually of course), share insights over lightyears with a sort of subconscious "Hive Mind" that can be called upon to solve the deepest questions of the Universe.
Here is something I am supposing. Let's harken back to when Q first appeared to Picard and then later he focused ever so briefly on Riker and they had the discussion as found here:
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This was in one of the earliest TNG episodes, where Q offered Riker the greatest "gift" he could conceive, that of becoming a Q. The Q, bear in mind, are basically the very epitome of Biological Evolution and have seemingly total and limitless power over the very universe itself. But there was a cost. They were all "cut off" from one another and while they lived together in the Q Continuum they were all still just themselves. They had no real Unity. They had no common purpose to bring them together. They had no purpose at all in fact. They exist just to exist and while the Q we had the most contact with as that Imp who loved to annoy Star Fleet Captains the others seemed almost stagnant and edified.
Perhaps the fear that Q had was two-fold. He would obviously have known of this competing "Collective" of Artificial Lifeforms which seem to be another group for which they have become the epitome of purely Artificial Lifeforms with no biological component and while they may have Unity, they would also lack Individuality.
The two competing concepts of Individuality and Unity brought to their logical extremes are embodied by these two "competing" Pantheons of what amount to supremely powerful Beings who both suffer the costs of their isolation due to their overindulgence of the concept of Unity or the concept of Individuality. In both cases it has led to inevitable stagnation.
Maybe the fear of Humanity that Q spoke on was the idea that they may serve as the bridge between the Biological and the Artificial and that one day we would be the vanguard of a new Collective born of both the biological and the synthetic. A Unity not of 1 singular mind and purpose but a Unity of Equals who while we may seek our own goals we are still capable of understanding one another at a much, much deeper level than could ever really be achieved without the synthesis of organic and synthetic.
Maybe that game series Mass Effect had it right with its finale in which the opportunity was presented to imbue all life in the Universe with both organic and artificial components. Perhaps the doom of all life is born of the despair between two extremes and the only way forward is to embody the best of both organic and artificial and become something....More.
Spoiler Alert! After all this speculation about Seven being the new Borg Queen it turns out that Agnes is Assimilated by the Borg Queen and their minds melded, Agnes is on the way to become the new Borg Queen. Even Seven says to Raffi "You're witnessing the birth of a new Borg Queen."
I remember on voyager how B'elanna refers to 7 of 9 as "the borg Queen"
I think B'Elanna called her ‘Borg princess’…
There was an episode where she crash lands on a primitive planet and a playwright finds her, mistakes her for an "eternal (god/demigod/angel thing)" and be'lanna helps him write a play where 7 is secretly the Borg queen. When seven firsts arrives on voyager be'lanna refers to her as "the drone."
Her mission to find the parts collector needs to be part of the future path
If Seven of Nine became the Borg Queen, innovation and imagination would sweep through the collective! New ship designs that were stylish and unique! Different kinds of armour for different kinds of drones! (Three guesses where I got THAT from!) New and downright frightening adaptation strategies would emerge! I want to see it!
a very specific mission two parter from STO would be my guess.
They would assimilate species 8472, cause 6 of 9 knows from the Hirogens how to stop them and assimilate them!!!!!
Regarding the question of the Borg being destroyed by Janeway. I remember that in Voyager, it was never said that they had destroyed the Borg, but rather it was said, by someone, that they had "dealt a crippling blow" to the Borg. I think it likely that an empire as vast as what the Borg had, even taking into account the damage species 8472 had done, would have at least some kind of protection against data corruption at key points in the network so that they couldn't all be wiped out in an attack to a single point.
It was already stated on Picard that the collective is nothing but a former shell of itself
I think that with the Borg having a belief in the Collective being superior to all species they encounter, the bulk of their defensive capability is directed at those the plan to assimilate. The threat coming in the form of data corruption would not be given as much attention. The Borg concept of superiority extends beyond weaponry, tackle skill, to cyborg bioartificial intelligence superiority. That is the Borg Achilles heel. The hive mind is not capable of "thinking outside the box".
Interesting idea. I think one thing that Seven has learned is that the Borg path of assimilating others is not enough. You need creativity to form the future. Spontaneously I think of the vikings. They are remembered for their raids but they were settlers and traders too. The Borg could become much more if they stop only assimilating.
Doing that is denaturing the Borg...
The Borg Collective is all about assimilation. No good nor evil, just getting closer to perfection through assimilation.
While I agree that we will see that Seven's arc and with her being the Borg queen, I think she will be the queen of a much different collective from what we've seen.
That sounds intriguing Jeremy. Perhaps each Queen has her own individual impact on the collective?
@@ThePopcastthe idea of perfection through assimilation seemed asinine.
What I envision is a collective of *former drones: They still have their enhancement and still can work and communicate with the hive mind when needed, but are free to pursue personal perfection. Be the best Borg you can be type stuff through learning, exploration, living life, love, and loss. Stuff Seven of Nine has already learned.
As the former queen once said, 'without order there is chaos' Seven is able to put everybody in order if they start to get too chaotic, kind of like yelling at the kids for jumping on the couch.
I always assumed the Borg Queen kept her individuality. The Alice Krige version sure did. She was an "I" who had emotions like anger and lust.
I agree with you
I think you're onto something here. I expect there will be moments where Seven will be tempted and on the brink of becoming what the Borg have been, but will (through a scene like the video mentions with Chekote) overcome the temptation and birth a new kind of collective.
At least I _hope_ so. The idea of Borg power and resource being expressed through *free* agents has intrigued me since childhood.
You give the writers on Picard too much credit. They wouldnt know Trek if it slapped them in the face. You however have an amazing story idea and would be lucky to have someone like you on their team. Nice job 😀
Thanks Lubie! We are waiting for CBS to reach out to us and let us help them ;) We appreciate the kind words!
I agree that was awesome man
Yeah, and you're an expert. lol
@@ThePopcast Yeah, they need your "help". lol Who are you, again?
@Kenneth Baker The writers of Picard are so creatively bankrupt they ripped off the entire plot of Mass Effect.
That's an interesting theory a dam good one, it definitely plausible and if done right would make one hell of a storyline. I can only hope the writers have something as good
that was awesome my friend. I had chills !!
I was wondering how she disconnected herself from the hive so easily. Now I can see that she was "created" for this moment and was able to come and go as she pleases....at least we hope. Now that she got a taste of her old home and the control she has over the Borg, she could easily jump into the queen role.
A great many of her implants were removed over the years, those that are left may not be able to exert as much influence over her.
Did you watch the original voyager she hardy disconnected easily.
She doesn’t want to control them, I believe she will free them and give them all back self will
Um still on the fact of good or eavel still
@@HepCatJack yrt/ft uh fff
I can't lie.... your version of this story gave me chills. Loved it
Please give her a series of her own! She’s an amazing character and a lot of people would watch it!
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@@sevenof9652 The only problem with a spin-off is to buy, yet again, another spin-off.
I'd watch it👍💪🤠
wasn't Janeway the new Borg Queen in that one novel and getting rescued by Seven?
We’ve seen that the Borg fracture and break in the past. We can still have the perfection focused, amoral Borg collective we all love and fear while seven gathers ex-Borg and like minded allies into a different type of collective to which she is queen and individuality is retained, only briefly surrender in time of need for the New Collective. And thus the great Borg war begins…
You can still have her struggle with the two sides of herself, how far she goes and her battles to stop herself going down the route of the original Borg collective. But you can’t turn Seven into a bad guy she fought so hard for her individuality. Undoing all that would be flat and disappointing.
And seven of Nine crashed the cube.
I loved your theory in this video about the Borg Queen and Seven of Nine characters.
I’ve heard some foreshadowing has occurred to this.. it will be interesting if so
High praise coming from you sir!
Well I say good for her. She worked hard to get there. She deserves it.
Seven of Nine the Hilary Clinton of The Borg HAHAHAHAHA
Big opportunities were missed with Seven at the end of season one!!! She's MONEY!!!
This isnt starwars. Squeeze every last cent out.
Love Jeri Ryan, great concept
I'll always liked Star Trek since I was a small child. This video was so well done and so informative. I really loved how your commentary got me so excited for the future. 7 was always a favorite on Voyager for me. I hope does happen, without becoming evil, which I think it will.
This is very entertaining video with some fascinating ideas. And yes the entire microcollective sequence felt very much like a Chekov's gun.
Great theory, but I think it can be a happy ending and she can still be the Queen by not loosing herself in the collective.
In Star Trek Online she is the queen of a group known as the Liberated Borg. She keeps her humanity and is still able to command the ragtag group while searching out other Borg disconnected from the main collective.
I do wish there was a cameo from Admiral Janeway who knew Seven the best and could be the only person who could reach her as a Borg Queen.
I AGREE
The Queen never lost herself in the collective
So much information and with some many different pathways to travel, it will be fascinating which way the writers of the series takes us.
Interesting... now that Picard is a synth. He would easily access the the memories as Locutus without fear or barriers from his subconscious. What you suggest in Sevens plot maybe what's going on with Picard in the preview. Picard could be fighting himself from his memories as Locutus.... maybe he did like to be a borg at the time he was Locutus. If those feelings emerges to the surface, who would win... the human side or the borg?
Q being there is perfect since it was him that brought this Borg arc in the first place... and maybe deliberately. Since his trail of humanity is ongoing... it makes sense.
Guinan role in the story, I would assume be Picards advocate on his humanity.
Ultimately I can wait for Season 2 and which other favorites.may show up.
halfway through season 2 and i just came across this. Enjoyable video, very good research and inductive deductions.
it feels like this season will provide the origin of the borg, which bookends the introduction of the borg by Q in TNG's Encounter at Farpoint.
The only critique is that the borg growth is more ikely logarithmic and not linear.
Seven so Fine can be my Queen anytime 😊
I had always wondered if the Borg Queen on the Voyager series was Seven's human mother and that was why the Queen seemed so enamored with Seven. I'd like some of these questions answered at some point. Such as what happened to Seven's human parents after they became assimilated? What if anything Seven remembers about being in the maturation chamber and becoming a drone. We've seen much of her path of regaining her humanity, but what are her thoughts about having that taken away from her again if she chooses to become the next Queen? It would probably take a spin-off series just to answer these questions.
Seven told Janeway that there was 3 or 4 of them Borg city's around. Janeway only destroyed one of them. So yes, Borg are still as strong.
Powerfull stuff thanks for the ride
7 was a swarm cell. The collective would need swarm queens in order to expand into realms out of contact with the collective.
What if...she holds onto her humanity after struggling with losing it only to become the new queen and effectively changes the Borg in a positive way where the regain the individual identities thus ending their reign of terror. Ya thats going to happen.
Love the positive thought on this, but I think we need the Borg to scare the crap out of us. A temporary ally against a big foe might be interesting though :)
It could be both. She could lead the free Borg, letting them control their own lives except in cases of severe emergency where one mind has to guide them all to save them. Then their could be the "classic" Borg that are the scary unfeeling monsters as well, since I doubt they're totally wiped out by Janeway.
Borg Queen? If Seven of Nine becomes Borg Queen it could destroy her character development and her arc. A former Borg who found her humanity. This could make Trek fans more and more angry and they've been angry enough with the Kelvin Timeline Star Trek movies. Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Picard.
Isn't 7 of 9 the original human daughter of the Borg queen before she was the Borg queen?? Have I missed that many Star Trek episodes?
@@colorin81colorado No. Seven of Nine was taken by the Borg and assimilated when she was 6 years old. Her parents were Erin and Magnus Hannsen.
@@colorin81colorado Seven was born as a human child who was assimilated at age 6.
@@colorin81colorado No......the borg queen is not Annika's mother......Watch VOY ep "The Raven".
Honestly, Picards Second Season can do naught but worse than this glorious scenario you sketched in this Video. KUDOS! Almost made me cry in the end. "What would Janeway think?"
I thought that too. To balance out Q and his power struggle... between The Q, Humans and The Borg. Someone will have to bring order back to the Borg. Q started the conflict with the Borg and humans. He should end it there or at least introduce a more civilized peace, between all of them.
I love this channel
We love you!!
Looking forward to S2...WTF! Seven of Nine the new Borg Queen. Nice to see Q & Guinan again! Lifelong Star Trek fan.
Nothing made me more happy as a casual trek fan and go "That is cool." Yet also actually fill me with dread like I was a child again seeing Darth Vader. Than, when Seven's eyes went black, to green and we heard. "We are borg." It was a great moment, terrible, but great.
Your theorycraft/speculations are amazing. Would love to see them come to flourishion.
This is an excellent video man, whether Seven becomes Borg Queen or not. Really great stuff, I look forward to plenty more from you :)
Thanks so much!
The character Seven of Nine and Jeri Ryan making the character the brilliance from the beginning and what we see present day , is the greatest single character in the history of all the Star Trek's ... everything about her character and storyline , is golden .....
Remember what Q, who’s the protagonist this season said, “The trial never ends Mom Capitan”. Maybe he takes them back to the Borg controlled space. But I bet he’s got other hoop for Picard and crew to jump through that don’t completely involve the Borg.
Mom? those strange french people.
WOW YOU DID THIS PRETTY WELL YOU JUST GOT A NEW SUB, IF THEY DO THIS AS THE VIDEO SAID IT WILL PUT STARTREK AT THE LEVEL OF STARWARS
Inevitable! Seven of Nine will become the Borg queen, and Picard (Locutus) will save the day.
Seven has certainly come a long way since she was a teacher at Boston Public.
Amazon is selling a T-Shirt that says "Resistance is not Futile, it's Voltage divided by Current." (That's Ohm's Law.)
Great video with some really interesting ideas!!
Thanks Dale! Keep that fuel coming. more great videos on the way!
This was fascinating 👏
She’s absolutely NOT going to become the Borg Queen.
It is hard to imagine the Picard Production team allowing this, but the real question is, do you think the way we laid it out would be interesting? Make sure you watch how we wrapped it up before answering.
@@ThePopcast I think your presentation was very entertaining. I have no doubt your channel will be successful.
@@paulmillbank3617 You sir... complete us :)
@@ThePopcast No. Not interesting at all. Go back to your day job.
Enjoyable fanfiction and yeah, would be great to see her have her own series for this but...I have a feeling she's just going to end up human, in a relationship with some lovely lady and realize (perhaps through Guinan/Q) that she's not in her proper timeline ;)
How sad 7of9 became assimilated back into the collective ...she was so special ...hope she is rescued and freed ... 7 meets Data ?!💞
I never thought it made sense for the Borg to have a queen. They're supposed to be a collective, a hive mind, not a matriarchy
Bee hives have queens.
The whole point of the Borg was absence of individuality.
@@TheNeonRabbit But the queen bee is not an "individual" in the sense of a matriarch or patriarch. She is an integral part of the hive, a cog in the machine. In bee hives drones and workers are also different as well, but all of them work together to form a greater body. Bees after all are eusocial insects. With that said, the concept of a borg queen never bothered me, but more how she was depicted, she was depicted as too individualistic, but I think a queen could have worked had it been done better.
Bee hives and ants have Queens! So why not the Borg?
"It's not a matter of if, only when. Resistance is futile."🙌🏻
Since Q is back, everyone forced into old habits or random situations, to see how they react and if they've grown? Force 7/Annika to pick between being Borg queen and humanity again?
It's been done on Voyager. Why repeat it?
@@briankocheraabcdt4628 because drama? Lol
The 7/9 Tapestry remake of sorts. NOT ORIGINAL ENOUGH ! Damn stupid writers.
As a huge fan of Voyager, just finished watching all 7 seasons, for the 7th time, I always loved the 7 of 9 character, to see her become the Borg queen would be an interesting move, but as stated, it does appear she's been groomed for this all along perhaps 7 can bring a more human element into the collective, it could have been the missing link to the Borgs "perfection " all along, let's just hope that, 7 can become a queen, without loosing her individual thought, the original Queen always had individual thought, but she lacked the compassion so needed in a good leader, this could very well be the turning point for the Borg. I'm now intrigued in the Picard series, just a shame it isn't available on Netflix.
Seven as the Queen is brilliant! Awesome awesome awesome video🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thanks Hazel! You saying so makes it worth the effort :) Blessings!
I’m pretty sure jurati just confirmed herself as the borg queen
The role of the blonde should be defendant.
Anyway... I like the idea of Seven becoming Queen. I don't think she'll become bent on perfection but she'll be willing to do anything to save the Borg. Probably crossing the line into killing anyone that threatens them. She won't need to lose her individuality because her individuality has changed over the years. She went from drone to crewmember on a lost ship (small group of close family members), and when she was introduced to the larger "Home" of her family it was rotten, she became a hunter of the worst people the galaxy has to offer. The family on Voyager gave her hope she'd never experienced... Only for it to be taken away when they returned to the home she thought Voyager represented. The Federation failing to protect those in need, criminals roaming free and killing innocents (and her family) with no repercussions, Tal Shiar turning the Federation into a criminal element itself.
As Queen she could start collecting the severed Borg until some minor race or political entity attacks them out of fear, she's forced to destroy their ship and all of the major powers decide the new Borg threat is too great (ignoring that it was self defense) and that could send her into an antagonistic arc. If she did anything truly evil, it would end her. She's already too damaged. Death would be her only atonement and I don't want to even consider that option. Although Paramount doesn't hold anything in Trek sacred anymore... It's just a cash cow they're going to milk until it dies then have a steak dinner. I wouldn't put anything past them now.
Hamburger helper for borgd.Good work. You made so much out of so little.
seven becomes the new queen, however, due to her experience with humanity, the collective that she controls isn't like the previous borg, they would be more like the borg from descent TNG, and maybe JUST maybe they become live in the alpha quad on a remote planet somewhere with the drones she's taken control of and helped them regain some of their memories and becoming a good version of the borg, but the OG borg queen would still control the Delta Quad Borg and seven would be Queen of the Alpha Quad Borg... Almost like Good vs Evil Borg.
That could be fun! Nice
That would be what I hope for if they do take her down a queen path. Seven has always been my favourite character I’d hate it if they undid all the progress she’s made.
I think they could do allot of interesting things with maybe a partial mental connection to the oh delta Borg like seven going about teaching her Borg to be people again and helping people and she ‘sees’ the other queen who’s like why do you try theses futile efforts order would be more efficient. Probably ending up with the old Borg battling sevens new Borg and not understanding why the new Borg wins. Basically poking further at how individuality is beneficial and how hard it it’s for seven to fight her own people for it even though it’s not their fault and not being able to save all of them.
If they turned her evil I’d probably never forgive them and I don’t think it’d go down well with other fans
This courtesy message from Pozzy Thump.
Yes, the same Pozzy Thump drone that Seven of Nine could take control of.
Please film it for my later needs.
It's possible, but I could also see her using the queen position to spread individuality and set up XB colonies or possibly even as a rival Borg faction that allies itself with the Federation.
I feel like a Borg without a collective. Hope noone else feels that.
Join the subjunction of this unimatrix.
@@Tiberiansam I would join 6 of 9s subjunction unimatrix. All night.
Turns out it's Jurati :)
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I love your story idear!!!!!
@@Daveyk021 Thanks Davey! It was a fun one to do :)
I want to see Picard as a Borg King and 7 of 9 as his Queen
@@mikeshriver4282 Nah!
great video but am surprised you missed this huge point supporting your video. when 7 crashes with her original unimatrix she choses to take on the role of a queen to control the 3 other drones thats when i always assumed after that she was bein groomed as a queen
I'm all for it, knowing it brings tears to my eyes.
Seven of mine could possibly rescue the franchise !
Like she did for Voyager
Freudian slip?
🤣🤣🤣 good one!
I completely agree with your theory.
I would love to see the Picard season 1. I have to many damned Subscription services as it is. Roddenberry would want his show available to EVERYONE, not just the people that pay for it.
I have a question. In star trek voyager What happened to the Borg baby?
well this didnt age well.
😂😂😂
An interesting thoery. One note, Picard takes place in the Kelvin timeline. Direct comparisons to VOY aren't a good measure because that show, along with TNG, are in the Prime timeline (or Primeline, as I call it). Since Picard is the first show post Kelvin, we don't know how the new timeline altered the events we watched in TNG, VOY, or even DS9. Though the events in the shows may be the same, the outcomes and experiences of our favorite heroes may have been very different in the new timeline.
As for why 7 is missing her implants in the STP2 trailer, I'm guessing that Q is responsible. Since series 1 dealt with mortality, I've wondered if this next series will deal with being comfortable with you are.
What do y'all think?
I thought this was interesting and entertaining. Great job.
Thanks Joe! You saying this makes it worth the effort!
Seven as a queen! i believe she would feel more at home than anywhere else.
i believe her more recent found individuality would be in conflict with her desire and to feel like she "belongs"..
i believe that as a borg queen, she would feel that her life has purpose.
either way, i cant wait to see what the writers come up with.
I've now, apparently, missed too much of all of this to keep up with what's going on after hearing a phrase like "Picard a synthetic".
just watch Picard. Such a good show!
Picard has a artificial heart since his "accident" in Academy times, so he was partly synthetic in TNG and even more so after his assimilation. So not that big of a news.
@@matteloht He had an artificial heart which is like a newer pacemaker we have now so its nothing like to being fully synthetic. Also after Wolf 356 all his implants and stuff were removed.
At the end of Season one Picards mind is transfered into a synthetic body. Still played by Patrick Stewart, so i'm unsure what was the Point. But that question sums of most of my Picard viewing experience.
@@comentedonakeyboard there was no point or reason to kill off Picard which has been done, same as killing Hugh who could have been great over a few seasons.
Why not? We have seen Seven’s growth. She could easily become Queen, and use her humanity to change the collective. I’m down with that!🥰
Given the woke filter being applied to everything now, it makes perfect sense for a female character to become ultra powerful. This is a good theory; I'm glad I saw this video. I'm now a subscriber.
Have you noticed that there is no mention of Q or Borg in Discovery season 3?
How the f*** is this a surprise the old Queen actually said this was kind of 7of9's destiny in the original series
Quite an interesting theory!! I agree with a lot of it!!
Wow! That was fascinating! Lot of thought based on lore went into this. Too bad the writers at Paramount won't take this kind of effort to develop the character. 3 seasons of Discovery and 1 season of Picard is proof of that.
Thanks Anthony! We are waiting for that call from Paramount ;) Perhaps the thing they are missing in their writers room is a love of Star Trek?
This has proven wrong.
It's not Seven, but Agnes.
No she won't
So, is "admiral" Janeway still a Borg drone? What did assimilating her do to the collective? Was she destroyed at the end of "Endgame" or just assimilated. I cant remember. And what happens when we get to the point in the timeline where "Admiral" went back in time. Wouldn't she have to do that again in order to ensure the creation of this new timeline where 7 lives ? Where is "Admiral"Janeway during the events of Picard?
This isn’t Star Trek people. Get it right!
With 7of 9 as the Borg Queen, the narrative possibilities are just shy of endless! Whether by intention or accident, Star Trek has created an intensely complex, conflicted character that deserves further exploration. Hell yeah, long live the Queen!
I can see the writing on the wall, she becomes queen of the Borg and liberates al the victim female drones keeps all the male drones as servants and leads the feminist movement across the galaxy.😅
Are you triggered?
How do you explain the wedding ring in the scene of 7 without her facial implant?
Good god, they're actually doing a Season 2 of "Picard" after trashing the beloved TNG characters like they did???? Let's see what else they can ruin.
I guess we found out Seven didn't become the new Borg Queen after all.
You were wrong. LOL
As the character of TOS, Mr. Spock would say, "fascinating"; the greatest risk indeed would be the character Seven in her sacrifice to save the broken Borg to become that she fought so hard not to revert.
I love seven of nine, one of my favorite and badass characters.
This aged well 😂