This podcast was so thought-provoking. The idea of geographical location and how people developed caused different thought processes and how that is even expressed through language is fascinating. I look forward to reading more deeply into this with your book and the recommended reading! The way you expressed about categories in Western culture is so apt and I see it some times as we are all categorised and ‘play the part’ like in a movie. But we are not a character, we are human with so many elements. The idea of this raw humanity is so refreshing. The monk wants a beer, just yes!! Thank you.
TIL i'm an eastern thinker who grew up in a western world. I resonate with this video and I'm happy that I've been finding balance in my thinking. Thank you.
Hi Jason! I found it amusing that we also have a concept of 'Indian' time in the Philippines and it is seen as a negative thing here but we sometimes joke about it. Didn't know it was rooted in eastern way of thinking, haha. Thank you and keep making wonderful conversations like this one. Hoping the future will have adapted more of the eastern way of thinking, or maybe a balance of both east and west.
Thank you my friend. Yes, it is strange that a lot of Eastern thought is frowned upon in the East, considering that is the original cognitive style there. Only love for the Philippines my friend. Great to have you with us.
I read Chuang Tzu today. Because of your channel it made me read your book. I start thinking about categories and names. It is totally trippy for me, how much it re value a lot of my thinking. Then after hours of intersection, this video comes up. I get you guys to think for me. I just sit back and absorb. I tried to live the way for a time now. I smiled a lot. Which is weird feeling for me. Your line to trust the world was key for me personally. It was way to bypass my intellectual part. It is alien for me to trust world because of how I think and my life experiences. But it just clicked because it was scary it was challenge I had no reason to not take. Thank you both providing me with this. I hope you continue
Who is the person your speaking with Jason. Since you haven't introduced her in the video. Could you please introduce her in the Text. 2 hours ha, Thanks - brother
@@JasonGregoryAuthor Cheers thanks for that. I admin The Alan Watts & Buddhism Study Group, FB, Gayoung in a member and posts your vids there. I wondered about the connection. Maybe we'll be able to get a discussion on the FB page if enough people watch your talk. Thanks again Jason, and of course Gayoung. It's good to see the australian cultural influence in buddhism. A little different from other flavours. Earthy. Some of that earthiness is apparent in this talk. Yep one has to do travel, not just read about it. It's a practice
These are some classic videos. It's good to watch somebody corroborating your ideas especially when we come from east where these kind of subjects are looked down upon, if one is in their youth. I admire your discussions. Only downside, these need to be watched sometime later due to time constraints. But it's okay...
How can a person live and thrive both as an individual at the same time as a member of the society??? Is there a balance between the west/individualistic and east/collective worlds that can be applied to both east and west?
I kind of wonder how an artist would react to the background/foreground picture test. Working in paint, most people start with the background, working their way both top to bottom and background to foreground on the image they're trying to paint. There are exceptions, of course, but I wonder how thinking in terms of a painting might change how they see stuff.
Hi Jason.....I wish everyone in the world would study the differences between thinking of east and west. At least this knowledge would promote more understanding and tolerance of the fact that there are differences in society and cultures. Collectivism vs indivituality....interesting. However it seems to me Lao Tzu, promoted tolerance, but also seemed to suggest that the (path) is achieved by individual thinking. Mainland China today seems to bring collectivism to an extreme to the point of slavery. I guess i think that extremes can be taken to controlling levels. Anyway, a profound conversation that I wish everyone would listen to. You talked about Jesus towards the end. Sometime I hope you tackle that subject. He seemed to have to have a mixture of western and eastern thought. It can be confusing. Alan Watts seemed to think his teachings were marginalized and changed from the beginning. Anyway Brother, extremely interesting talk.
You are right about China, but that extremism these days is not due to Taoism, but rather Communism. Since the cultural revolution, as you know, Taoism and Buddhism have been thrown out the window in favor of Marxism. It is a longer discussion. As for Lao-tzu, the path f the individual is to realize the individual doesn't exist. That is the crux of Taoism.
Most Asian languages are "topic-comment" oriented, which is very different from English Also, not all Asian religions feature reincarnation. Early Chinese folk religion and some forms of Shinto don't teach this, for instance.
The problem of child suicide is awful yet when we consider the abuse and exploitation of our worlds no wonder it happens. Mother of 5. Thriugh 80. 90 till present have seen pressure of adult pushed onto child. Then the lies that they see through but may struggle to communicate. And then it develops very sad very very sad. Listening with you 2 has given me breath
I have relatives who really like their weed, even to the point of having some legal difficulties (lives in a different state where it's not legal). During that particular conversation, I said some unkind things. Once it became legal in my state, I tried it for the first time in my thirties, because I figured that it was common at my high school and it seemed like I'd missed out on some sort of rite of passage. After that experience, I think it's not for me in general, though I do find it an amusing story to tell about playing a video game (Skyrim, Dragonborn DLC) and getting lost in the map, then sampling my way through the kitchen while texting my sister about how chocolate/giardineira was a terrible combination, but peanut butter with whipping cream was delicious. Lesson learned: don't be a judgemental asshole. I've since taken a much more relaxed approach to things. If they're not doing harm, there's no problem.
As an easterner who grew up in the west, I would argue that thinking about the collective is good in times of true crisis but bad when a crisis is manufactured to benefit radical changes to society. When is a crisis true and when is it not true? That's where individual thinking comes in. Sheep mentality is a risk in societies that promote the collective. I did not listen past the 36 minute mark to find out if you talk about the other side of being collective minded. I hope you did.
It is more intelligent to respond after watching the whole podcast. Maybe you didn't listen carefully. We explained everything you said. We explain the good and bad side to both cognitive styles. It is better to listen and think deeply first before reacting without consuming the whole content. My channel is not for triggered responses my friend. I hope you can respect that mature way of behaving on future videos.
This podcast was so thought-provoking. The idea of geographical location and how people developed caused different thought processes and how that is even expressed through language is fascinating. I look forward to reading more deeply into this with your book and the recommended reading!
The way you expressed about categories in Western culture is so apt and I see it some times as we are all categorised and ‘play the part’ like in a movie. But we are not a character, we are human with so many elements. The idea of this raw humanity is so refreshing. The monk wants a beer, just yes!! Thank you.
TIL i'm an eastern thinker who grew up in a western world. I resonate with this video and I'm happy that I've been finding balance in my thinking. Thank you.
That's awesome my friend. Thank you for watching.
Hi Jason! I found it amusing that we also have a concept of 'Indian' time in the Philippines and it is seen as a negative thing here but we sometimes joke about it. Didn't know it was rooted in eastern way of thinking, haha. Thank you and keep making wonderful conversations like this one. Hoping the future will have adapted more of the eastern way of thinking, or maybe a balance of both east and west.
Thank you my friend. Yes, it is strange that a lot of Eastern thought is frowned upon in the East, considering that is the original cognitive style there. Only love for the Philippines my friend. Great to have you with us.
I just loved this podcast. It really helped me understand better these differences and brought more peace to my mind. Thank you!
I read Chuang Tzu today. Because of your channel it made me read your book. I start thinking about categories and names. It is totally trippy for me, how much it re value a lot of my thinking. Then after hours of intersection, this video comes up. I get you guys to think for me. I just sit back and absorb. I tried to live the way for a time now. I smiled a lot. Which is weird feeling for me. Your line to trust the world was key for me personally. It was way to bypass my intellectual part. It is alien for me to trust world because of how I think and my life experiences. But it just clicked because it was scary it was challenge I had no reason to not take. Thank you both providing me with this. I hope you continue
It was effortless living I read by you. I check your other books to. So you get rich 😜
Thank you for your wonderful appreciation Sunesha. I'm so glad you found my work and resonate with the natural way.
Very helpful video guys. As usual I learn't a lot. fascinating stuff!
Thank you Bernardo. We always enjoy your appreciation brother.
Excellent episode. Very informative. My love to you both.
Thank you dearly, James. We appreciate you.
Who is the person your speaking with Jason. Since you haven't introduced her in the video. Could you please introduce her in the Text.
2 hours ha, Thanks - brother
Glad you appreciate the length brother. She is my wife and her name is Gayoung. I introduced her in earlier podcasts. Hope you enjoy the podcast.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor Cheers thanks for that. I admin The Alan Watts & Buddhism Study Group, FB, Gayoung in a member and posts your vids there. I wondered about the connection. Maybe we'll be able to get a discussion on the FB page if enough people watch your talk. Thanks again Jason, and of course Gayoung. It's good to see the australian cultural influence in buddhism. A little different from other flavours. Earthy. Some of that earthiness is apparent in this talk. Yep one has to do travel, not just read about it. It's a practice
These are some classic videos.
It's good to watch somebody corroborating your ideas especially when we come from east where these kind of subjects are looked down upon, if one is in their youth.
I admire your discussions. Only downside, these need to be watched sometime later due to time constraints.
But it's okay...
Great to have you with us Harsh. I'm so glad you are getting a lot out of our discussions.
How can a person live and thrive both as an individual at the same time as a member of the society??? Is there a balance between the west/individualistic and east/collective worlds that can be applied to both east and west?
Thank you for your te ching
Thank you for watching my friend.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor alan watts talks about this in eastern wisdom
I kind of wonder how an artist would react to the background/foreground picture test. Working in paint, most people start with the background, working their way both top to bottom and background to foreground on the image they're trying to paint. There are exceptions, of course, but I wonder how thinking in terms of a painting might change how they see stuff.
Hi Jason.....I wish everyone in the world would study the differences between thinking of east and west. At least this knowledge would promote more understanding and tolerance of the fact that there are differences in society and cultures. Collectivism vs indivituality....interesting. However it seems to me Lao Tzu, promoted tolerance, but also seemed to suggest that the (path) is achieved by individual thinking. Mainland China today seems to bring collectivism to an extreme to the point of slavery. I guess i think that extremes can be taken to controlling levels. Anyway, a profound conversation that I wish everyone would listen to. You talked about Jesus towards the end. Sometime I hope you tackle that subject. He seemed to have to have a mixture of western and eastern thought. It can be confusing. Alan Watts seemed to think his teachings were marginalized and changed from the beginning. Anyway Brother, extremely interesting talk.
You are right about China, but that extremism these days is not due to Taoism, but rather Communism. Since the cultural revolution, as you know, Taoism and Buddhism have been thrown out the window in favor of Marxism. It is a longer discussion. As for Lao-tzu, the path f the individual is to realize the individual doesn't exist. That is the crux of Taoism.
Most Asian languages are "topic-comment" oriented, which is very different from English
Also, not all Asian religions feature reincarnation. Early Chinese folk religion and some forms of Shinto don't teach this, for instance.
The problem of child suicide is awful yet when we consider the abuse and exploitation of our worlds no wonder it happens. Mother of 5. Thriugh 80. 90 till present have seen pressure of adult pushed onto child. Then the lies that they see through but may struggle to communicate. And then it develops very sad very very sad.
Listening with you 2 has given me breath
I have relatives who really like their weed, even to the point of having some legal difficulties (lives in a different state where it's not legal). During that particular conversation, I said some unkind things. Once it became legal in my state, I tried it for the first time in my thirties, because I figured that it was common at my high school and it seemed like I'd missed out on some sort of rite of passage.
After that experience, I think it's not for me in general, though I do find it an amusing story to tell about playing a video game (Skyrim, Dragonborn DLC) and getting lost in the map, then sampling my way through the kitchen while texting my sister about how chocolate/giardineira was a terrible combination, but peanut butter with whipping cream was delicious.
Lesson learned: don't be a judgemental asshole. I've since taken a much more relaxed approach to things. If they're not doing harm, there's no problem.
As an easterner who grew up in the west, I would argue that thinking about the collective is good in times of true crisis but bad when a crisis is manufactured to benefit radical changes to society. When is a crisis true and when is it not true? That's where individual thinking comes in. Sheep mentality is a risk in societies that promote the collective. I did not listen past the 36 minute mark to find out if you talk about the other side of being collective minded. I hope you did.
It is more intelligent to respond after watching the whole podcast. Maybe you didn't listen carefully. We explained everything you said. We explain the good and bad side to both cognitive styles. It is better to listen and think deeply first before reacting without consuming the whole content. My channel is not for triggered responses my friend. I hope you can respect that mature way of behaving on future videos.