I'm planning to get these for my 2020 Offroad, but I'm torn between the sport and SAE. Personally, I'm not worried about the sports being too bright. Here in Ohio every jackass with a truck has a light bar and they run them all the time on the road. Cops couldn't care less. I work nights and my commute is on a couple very dark roads with lots of deer, so I'm leaning toward the Sports. That said, now that I know they are the same exact lights underneath, I may go with the SAE version and see if it's bright enough. If not, I can simply remove the black shield and basically have the sports.
@@drmalenko Did you even read my comment? My primary concern is MY safety. If the cops don't give a sh*t, I certainly don't. In any case, I got rid of this truck, so it's no longer an issue for me.
@@dlg5485 old news and you got rid of truck and all, but there is a good reason those lights are illegal on road. Oncoming drivers are blinded and it can and has caused accidents. Just because cops don't care to do their job doesn't mean we should break laws. Know what I mean?
Just installed a pair of amber SAE Squadrons in my 4Runner's factory fog positions and I am concerned something is wrong with them- it is hard to see if the lights are even on or not because all they do is produce a dim amber fill light to some surrounding area. They do not have a beam pattern like the ones shown in this video and they certainly aren't nearly as bright as the SAE Squadrons shown in this video.
The SAE squadrons are actually dimmer than your factory halogen lights. If you want a true performance fog light, look into the SS3 lights by Diode Dynamics. Here's a shootout thread: www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/
I've been stopped before when I had LED bulbs. The Trooper didn't blame me for having them on as the fog was so thick, you could only see 4ft in front of you.
No the SAE is still called the SAE. Baja Designs has 3 different options they make the Squadron lights. SAE, Sport and Pro model versions, in that order is the brightest (highest lumens) models.
I feel like I'm having trouble positioning my sae lights. Everytime I adjust them too high I get little ground coverage. Everytime I adjust then lower I get little distance. It doesn't help that I had to custom mount them. I did expect them to be a little brighter especially with how yours look on video
Every thing looks really good I was on line I seen these LED lights bats and the company once I found out what the name was the LEDs bulbs are a different look then any other lights that I seen before LAZER LAMPS that’s the name of the company
Great video. Lots of detail. Next part of my comment is not aimed at you 🤣. God forbid manufactures would make their products more modular. Yes, I understand why. More $. Why not make a kit that has clear and yellow lenses, metal and clear cone inserts, with the diffuser. People could pick and choose their layout whenever they want. Instead, we would have to spend $700 to essentially get silver cone inserts of or clear, depending on what set you have. This message applies to everyone from bed rack manufacturers, roof tents, KC lights. Etc etc etc. Rant over 🤣
Whatever about the laws and offroad lights. Common sense not to use them if there’s cars around. Off-road conditions hit no matter where you are. Street legal won’t save you when you are in the shit and blind.
How do the stock rigid fog lights compare to the Squadrons? I've got a 19 TRD Pro, but light the amber optics. Would you buy the lens to upgrade the stock Rigid lights or buy the Baja Designs?
I hope you got comped Bro. That's a pointman review on those 2 lights, I was comparing both for my 4Runner. What are those other pair fogs you got ??? Thanks man.
Love the Baja lights for the Tacoma you are right about the Street legal and off-road light pretty much depends on your state and local law enforcement and DOT regulate headlights and fog light output
Amber reduces reflection/glare. I've driven in the fog off and on for 20+ yrs. Amber reduces eye strain and stress. During the summer I'd replace the amber lens with white/clear lens... I remember driving in tule fog. Couldn't see the road but you were sitting in sunshine.... I've driven in fog that formed a tunnel over the road. Like driving in a tunnel that you know doesn't exist. It's Eerie at night. The heat rising from the road causes the fog to lift and go over the road but as the road cools, the fog lowers...
I’ve ran with my squadron sport on the street but turn them off when around traffic. One of them actually leaked water because O- ring was not in the groove. The water turned the chrome cone black. I am sending the one back to Baja designs for a replacement. I’m not happy about having to send it back before they send another one OR repair this light. It blew the fuse that is on the harness.
Terrific comparison. I’ve got the SAE ambers from Baja installed on stock 2018 off-road. Was contemplating the switch to driving/combo version. Your video is tough to tell a drastic difference so saved me money.
So what i'm doing since i already have the squadron sports + a Switch Pro is that im going to save my money on SEA's and wire my squadron sports to the Swtich Pro. You can dim all the way down to 10% so oncoming driver dont get blinded.
Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase the SAE components (reflector cones and shield) separately? I wouldn't mind being able to switch the intended usage for street and OR when I'd like instead of adding additional lights.
Good to know. I just installed these yesterday. I was wondering why they were so bright. I bought the Sport by mistake. Can I add the black insert that the SAE has and convert my Sport lights to SAE?
so do you have a set of both sae and the xl sports on your bumper? i have the same bumper and want to get this set up i think. obviously only use the XL when im off road... thanks in advance
@@Runnin4TacosBaja Designs does now have a SAE version of the S2 lights. It might not have been available when you made your reply comment to the original comment/question about the S2.
Question do you know or have experience with the racer editions? I was going to mount the XL racer edition on the a-pillar as ultimate high beams, of course when no one is on the road.
Hey can u plz do a video on the XL80s and the SAE together, I’m planning on runnin the same set up but I’d like to see the output compared, I can’t find any videos of the two, thanks in advance! 🤘☺️🤘
Taco Twonz awesome Thankyou! I wish there was more videos on the baja designs hard to find videos on the lights I want and it’s a lot of money to spend on lights without seeing them in action😢
I hate oncoming vehicles on the road with fog lights like these. Especially when the weather isn't severe for what these are intended for. Bs calling them street legal.
I'll save you the trouble, don't bother with either the sport or SAE squadron if you want a true performance fog light. The sport isn't street legal and the SAE is actually dimmer than a factory halogen lamp, due to its poorly conceived optics. The SS3 by Diode Dynamics is a true performance fog. 4x the brightness of BD, with better optics and a cutoff.
@@maxdaddy6434 the SS3 lenses are indeed stamped. Mine say SAE F19. DOT does not set compliance standards for fog lighting, only SAE does. Please do some research. I recommend starting here: www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/
Honestly I see assholes drive around all the time with full blown 55inch light bars on all the time. The last thing I'm worried about it if my foglights are street legal..
Should have shined them on a wall to show beam pattern between the two
I'm planning to get these for my 2020 Offroad, but I'm torn between the sport and SAE. Personally, I'm not worried about the sports being too bright. Here in Ohio every jackass with a truck has a light bar and they run them all the time on the road. Cops couldn't care less. I work nights and my commute is on a couple very dark roads with lots of deer, so I'm leaning toward the Sports. That said, now that I know they are the same exact lights underneath, I may go with the SAE version and see if it's bright enough. If not, I can simply remove the black shield and basically have the sports.
Dont be part of the problem. Dont use illegal lights on public roads.
@@drmalenko Did you even read my comment? My primary concern is MY safety. If the cops don't give a sh*t, I certainly don't. In any case, I got rid of this truck, so it's no longer an issue for me.
@@dlg5485 it's a public road. You should care... You've gotta really poor attitude.
@@dlg5485 old news and you got rid of truck and all, but there is a good reason those lights are illegal on road. Oncoming drivers are blinded and it can and has caused accidents. Just because cops don't care to do their job doesn't mean we should break laws. Know what I mean?
@@drmalenko You can shove that self-righteousness where the sun don't shine.
Solid explanation and comparison of SAE vs. off road lights.
They’re called reflectors I think 🤔
Reflector cups..lol
Good to know...Great info
Can we just tap the same into the corner lights for constantight and utilize inline fuse on the 12v line.. or does it still need a dedicated relay?
So rad!
Great video!
Did you tint your headlights or buy them tinted?
Just installed a pair of amber SAE Squadrons in my 4Runner's factory fog positions and I am concerned something is wrong with them- it is hard to see if the lights are even on or not because all they do is produce a dim amber fill light to some surrounding area. They do not have a beam pattern like the ones shown in this video and they certainly aren't nearly as bright as the SAE Squadrons shown in this video.
The SAE squadrons are actually dimmer than your factory halogen lights. If you want a true performance fog light, look into the SS3 lights by Diode Dynamics. Here's a shootout thread: www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/
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I mean, who’s policing fog lights though? How is anyone going to know if they are street legal or not?
I've been stopped before when I had LED bulbs. The Trooper didn't blame me for having them on as the fog was so thick, you could only see 4ft in front of you.
It's not about legality for me... For me it's about not being a jerk to other drivers.
@@OverlandOrange that's the dumbasses that don't aim the bulbs.
How much was your rack ?
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Are the SAE now called Squadron Pro?
No the SAE is still called the SAE. Baja Designs has 3 different options they make the Squadron lights. SAE, Sport and Pro model versions, in that order is the brightest (highest lumens) models.
Please do a review on the Diode Dynamics SS3 Sport and Pro foglights
I have the sports on mine. Trust me when I say. There’s no issue at all.
Ordered the sports. Still happy with yours? I think it’s better to have more light than less when you ACTUALLY need it.
Nobody enforces lights, lots of cars with HID bulb in the standard housing and also lots of people driving on HI beams too.
Thanks for the in-depth info and explanations. Very good to know.
I feel like I'm having trouble positioning my sae lights. Everytime I adjust them too high I get little ground coverage. Everytime I adjust then lower I get little distance. It doesn't help that I had to custom mount them. I did expect them to be a little brighter especially with how yours look on video
Great video man, i appreciate the comparison.
what are the larger amber lights located next to the fog lights?
Baja Designs XL80
Every thing looks really good I was on line I seen these LED lights bats and the company once I found out what the name was the LEDs bulbs are a different look then any other lights that I seen before LAZER LAMPS that’s the name of the company
I wonder what happens if you run the projector in the sport top beams with the spot shield.
Great video. Lots of detail. Next part of my comment is not aimed at you 🤣. God forbid manufactures would make their products more modular. Yes, I understand why. More $. Why not make a kit that has clear and yellow lenses, metal and clear cone inserts, with the diffuser. People could pick and choose their layout whenever they want. Instead, we would have to spend $700 to essentially get silver cone inserts of or clear, depending on what set you have. This message applies to everyone from bed rack manufacturers, roof tents, KC lights. Etc etc etc. Rant over 🤣
Whatever about the laws and offroad lights. Common sense not to use them if there’s cars around. Off-road conditions hit no matter where you are. Street legal won’t save you when you are in the shit and blind.
How do the stock rigid fog lights compare to the Squadrons? I've got a 19 TRD Pro, but light the amber optics. Would you buy the lens to upgrade the stock Rigid lights or buy the Baja Designs?
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I hope you got comped Bro. That's a pointman review on those 2 lights, I was comparing both for my 4Runner. What are those other pair fogs you got ??? Thanks man.
so since its pretty much the same light can you buy the sae version and then just buy the lens seperate to turn it into a pro?
Love the Baja lights for the Tacoma you are right about the Street legal and off-road light pretty much depends on your state and local law enforcement and DOT regulate headlights and fog light output
Amber reduces reflection/glare. I've driven in the fog off and on for 20+ yrs. Amber reduces eye strain and stress. During the summer I'd replace the amber lens with white/clear lens... I remember driving in tule fog. Couldn't see the road but you were sitting in sunshine.... I've driven in fog that formed a tunnel over the road. Like driving in a tunnel that you know doesn't exist. It's Eerie at night. The heat rising from the road causes the fog to lift and go over the road but as the road cools, the fog lowers...
Man....that's alot of light power. Dope AF!
I’ve ran with my squadron sport on the street but turn them off when around traffic.
One of them actually leaked water because O- ring was not in the groove. The water turned the chrome cone black. I am sending the one back to Baja designs for a replacement. I’m not happy about having to send it back before they send another one OR repair this light. It blew the fuse that is on the harness.
Terrific comparison. I’ve got the SAE ambers from Baja installed on stock 2018 off-road. Was contemplating the switch to driving/combo version. Your video is tough to tell a drastic difference so saved me money.
Off subject, did you add the TRD logo to the grill?
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they use the same base board, but the diodes appear to be different sizes on the two, so they are very likely different.
Where did u get the baja amber light bar ? Or is just amber cover for your baja light bar?
What kind of bumper did have? Were the spots for the fog lights already there or did you have to cut them out?
Can you please upload the link to the headlights in the Tacoma on the video, as well as the front bumper?! Thank you so much!!
I have the bd pro’s. They are bright. Too bright for fog, snow, and oncoming traffic. I use them as brights and works fine.
Basically the shield is what cuts off the light on the lower portions of each led. Wonder if a custom shield can be made for the pros and sports.
Excellent video, sae behind my Jeep JL grille is what I'm looking at. Now to get the SAE dimensions and see if they will fit.
Baja designs makes a fog light pocket kit for the JL if that’s what you’re looking for
So what i'm doing since i already have the squadron sports + a Switch Pro is that im going to save my money on SEA's and wire my squadron sports to the Swtich Pro. You can dim all the way down to 10% so oncoming driver dont get blinded.
Jonny Anderson awesome idea. I’m stealing it👍🏻
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What kind of suspension and tire size you running
Subscribed, but what front bumper is that?
I swapped out the bd sae for the rigid sae version and now I’m getting a brighter “street legal” lights .
What headlights are those?
They are terrible lol. And out of business.
Can you do a setup of your ab6 headlights on your tacoma. I bought some for mine but they are not as bright as yours
Love your videos. Just installed the raptor lights I got from you the other day on my 4R
Anything special to wire them in to the factory switch? Did you just splice in to the factory wiring?
Hey just curious. On your ab6 headlight, does your amber drl sequential when you lock and unlock you car?
You can chose sequential or standard
Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase the SAE components (reflector cones and shield) separately? I wouldn't mind being able to switch the intended usage for street and OR when I'd like instead of adding additional lights.
Not that I’m aware of but you could most likely find parabolic reflectors that work, or just take them out entirely.
What front bumper is that one there? It looks amazing!
He doesn’t respond to questions
If it is Baja Designs, you paid too much....Great stuff, but not THAT great for the price
They have a light bar for over $6,000 dollars...
Good to know. I just installed these yesterday. I was wondering why they were so bright. I bought the Sport by mistake. Can I add the black insert that the SAE has and convert my Sport lights to SAE?
Not sure if Baja sells just that
I was wondering will the squadron sae fog lights fit on a 2021 sr5. Thanks...
The factory LED fogs on my 2021 4runner are not very bright, don’t give much coverage out in front for light
Have you been hassled by law enforcement using these lights and had to explain they were SEA?
No sir
Do the fog light have same rules apply to Washington state laws?
I am not sure what rules apply in Washington 😅
Hi guys.! Is still available the front bumper on your truck.! in you guys website.! Or were I can found it.!
We no longer sell this bumper
Thanks.! Do you know where I can found it.?
so do you have a set of both sae and the xl sports on your bumper? i have the same bumper and want to get this set up i think. obviously only use the XL when im off road... thanks in advance
also im wondering did you powder coat your trd skid plate? I want to copy the underbody as well in white !
any help would be much appreciated @r4t!
@Taco Twonz where can I find the front bumper of your truck I really like it and would love to get it for my truck? please post link
PiGamer/Racing I believe he is running the Lil B's front bumper.
Thank you I need this review
what front bumper is that?
Would the s2’s be street legal?
The only steet legal lights would be labeled as SAE. The S2's are not street legal.
@@Runnin4TacosBaja Designs does now have a SAE version of the S2 lights. It might not have been available when you made your reply comment to the original comment/question about the S2.
Link for the lights is broken.
Link to head lights
Question do you know or have experience with the racer editions? I was going to mount the XL racer edition on the a-pillar as ultimate high beams, of course when no one is on the road.
Do you think there will be a website where I could buy the screen and the opticts lenses to convert the sports to SEA?
There isn't. There's more to it
Reflector cups..lol
Where did you get those headlights from? What are they called? Thank you.
Couldn’t you remove the blocking plate from the SAE’s whenever you wanted a wider beam?
Yeah, but then it wouldn't be SAE
@@Runnin4Tacos well yeah but if you’re wheeling, having street legal lights doesn’t really matter
Hey can u plz do a video on the XL80s and the SAE together, I’m planning on runnin the same set up but I’d like to see the output compared, I can’t find any videos of the two, thanks in advance!
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Yeah we can get that on the list
Taco Twonz awesome Thankyou! I wish there was more videos on the baja designs hard to find videos on the lights I want and it’s a lot of money to spend on lights without seeing them in action😢
What marker lights do you have in your grill?
www.runnin4tacos.com/products/2016-2019-tacoma-trd-pro-raptor-lights-3-kit
What's front bumper is that?
Twon,
Could you make a video on how you made the RCI control arm skid plates fit with your TRDPro skid plate? Can’t find a video on that anywhere!
Liana Benks These control arm skids are different than RCI’s so maybe that’s why it won’t work with the TRDP front skid?
Patrick Mortel yah, I figured that the control arm skid plates on Twon’s truck are the R4T skid plates and ordered a set myself. Thanks.
Liana Benks you won’t regret it!
What headlights are these? Do they make them for the tundra?
Kustom54
Hey there we’re can I purchased that red TRD badge in your front grill plz
Taco Vinyl sells them
Can you plz send me the link
What type of front bumper is this?
Thank u the best review. Thank u
That’s a great looking taco
What front bumper is that?
Is it me or links not working?
Thank you for making this video!
Excellent video!
Dude, you took them fully apart, wow, really good in-depth video on these bro!!! Nice job!
How much have you spent on mods total?
Nothing, its called being sponsored and advertising for those companies on youtube
what’s the exact name of your Tacoma ? I want to buy the exact same one. 😅
Eliseo Diaz its the tacoma raptor zr2
@@yomommaissofat1745 no its the Toyota Bronco Tacoma Zr2
thanks guys.
Great video!
Thanks for a very informative explanation and demonstration.
I hate oncoming vehicles on the road with fog lights like these. Especially when the weather isn't severe for what these are intended for. Bs calling them street legal.
But they are!
Frankenstein lights ideas? Thanks brotha.
Diode Dynamics has the best fog lights.
Cool Tacoma from Guam USA 👍🏻
I'll save you the trouble, don't bother with either the sport or SAE squadron if you want a true performance fog light. The sport isn't street legal and the SAE is actually dimmer than a factory halogen lamp, due to its poorly conceived optics. The SS3 by Diode Dynamics is a true performance fog. 4x the brightness of BD, with better optics and a cutoff.
But the SS3s aren't SAE either. DD says SAE but lenses aren't stamped DOT certified.
@@maxdaddy6434 the SS3 lenses are indeed stamped. Mine say SAE F19. DOT does not set compliance standards for fog lighting, only SAE does. Please do some research. I recommend starting here: www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/
Honestly I see assholes drive around all the time with full blown 55inch light bars on all the time. The last thing I'm worried about it if my foglights are street legal..