Should INLAND EMPIRE have got a 4K disc in your opinion? Psst, by the way, you can watch my top NOIR films in the Criterion Collection here - th-cam.com/video/prU2RvNZ1aY/w-d-xo.html
It is my favorite lynch film, as controversial as that may be. It allows for so much imaginative interpretation that the film can mean a million things to each person.
A masterpiece. I had the chance to see it in the theatre. As with Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway, one of the greatest experiences I’ve had as a filmgoer.
You must have a hell of an imagination then cause…just no. I mean ok you somehow like it? Fair enough. Better than mulholland drive? Blue velvet? The elephant man? Even wild at heart if you just love Laura Dern THAT much? This isn’t a hot take… it’s an insult to objectively superior films. I’m sorry I never flame somebody over a movie preference but you must be having a laugh.
I think the low quality digital look fits the film's story amazingly. It's hard to explain why but Inland Empire is one of the only films where the bad quality makes it better.
Hello! Just found your channel while searching for reviews of the new Inland Empire release. Back in 2007, I found DVD release difficult to get through. However, through the years, this one has become one of my favorite of Lynch films. I hope you've gotten around to watching it (the entire way through).
Not SUPER disappointed with Inland Empire not being presented on 4K disk, as it’s the same restoration shown in theaters. Haven’t personally seen it but I’ve heard great things (obviously all things considered). The weird thing is I saw an AMA several months ago with Sabrina Sutherland who is Lynch’s assistant. And she replied to a post asking about this very thing and she indicated that it would have a 4K disk. Im wondering if they’ll do an Uncut Gems and announce the 4K in a month or 2 and release them both at once. As far as the special features I really wish they included Rabbits, which is a 40 min short that is used in bits in Inland Empire. Also the cover art could’ve been better. I’ll definitely be getting it but it’s a bit lacking of a release unfortunately
I watched Inland Empire only once when it first came out and found it absolute torture to sit through but may give it another chance because I love everything else Lynch and it's been many years.
On a related issue does anyone know why criterion releases in the UK like Double indemnity only come as Blu-ray and the 4k is only an option in the US effectively doubling the cost? I have wondered whether it may be something to do with rights outside of the US?
I think it’s almost certainly that. You can get some releases here that Criterion have released on 4K but by other studios (Studiocanal, Warner etc), such as The Piano, Citizen Kane etc. How much their packages overlap or differs to that of Criterion’s I don’t know.
@@analogueanorak1904 yeah, it’s just annoying for us here as yes we could import it and play it, but the extras blu-ray disc is useless unless we fork out for a region-free player
@@tompoynton I forked out for a region free after the Fellini boxset came out. My absolute favourite director so totally worth it for me. So I can watch the extras but have only imported the Red shoes and Raging Bull, needs to be exceptional to warrant the cost
Love to see a John woo box set in 2023, with: Better tomorrow 1 and 2 Killer Hard boiled Bullet in the head Face off Red cliff The Crossing PT 1 and Pt2
I noticed a 4K release of George Romero's early, slightly rough around the edges, film Martin is being released? Next it will be Darren Aronofsky's Pi in Ultra 4K.
I have not 'upgraded' any of the previous 4K scans that were released as Bluray partially due to the fact that Criterion had explicitly told me they weren't going to UHD media. And, then they did. So, my Blue Velvet, Mullholland Drive I've decided to keep as these are the same scans. I think I may do the same with my prior Inland Empire Bluray; no real incentive to triple-dip.
Here after I ordered the Blu-ray since there is no 4k release. Before watching the video, I find it interesting that Janus Films restored it in 4k, so it’s baffling why they didn’t release that version. Hoping they don’t release it a few months down the line like Crimes of the Future.
I go to film school in upstate New York and saw the 4k restorations of Lost Highway and Inland Empire at Cornell Cinema. They honestly both looked equally amazing! Sure, the digital technology used in the latter gives it an "uglier" look, but it is a beautiful ugly that perfectly fits the mood of the film in my opinion. The new 4k restoration of Inland Empire is surely the best it has ever looked and probably ever will look. Sadly, I'm assuming that Criterion will continue to do what boutique labels have been doing for quite some time now and that is re-releasing the same title in 4k months to a year or more after the standard blu-ray was already released, forcing collectors to double dip on the same titles. I'm extremely disappointed I am not able to own the version of Inland Empire I saw in theaters upon release of the HD blu-ray.
Do you know if the theatrical version was actually shown in 4K with HDR or if it was just the 4K restoration upscale. Because the Blu-ray will pretty much be from the same thing
I'm sure the bluray'll look perfectly ugly-great. It's coming from the same 4k upscale of the SD source so if anything it'll uglify it slightly more, and probably for the better concerning the films themes and tone. That movie was never meant to look pretty
I just wish it had been a digipak so it matched all his other Criterion releases. I was disappointed that the Lost Highway Blu-ray was just in a standard Criterion case. The 4k version was a digipak so I bought that and was planning to do the same with Inland Empire until I found out they weren't releasing the 4k.
This is really irritating, it feels like Criterion are going to re-release it at 4K. I watched it a few years back, and sat through the 3 hours of running time. By the end of it, I was shook, it took me to places I'd never seen before with film. It's not Lynch's best, and it's quite messy, but I'd recommend trying to get through it all, as I found it at least, rewarding.
It was shot using a Sony PDF-150, which was standard definition digital video. I did have some concerns about the 4k restoration only because I didn’t want it to become something that it wasn’t (i.e. like making an 8mm film into a 65mm). However, this was going to be supervised by DL and if something didn’t“look right” to him, it wouldn’t be used. I managed to see this theatres during its tour and … yeah it was definitely a wild ride. It was definitely the missing link between Mulholland Drive and Twin Peaks: The Return. I also think that it could have also been DL’s call for Blu only as he has *very* insistent and involved in home video presentation. (Hell, he could have presented this as a DVD if he wanted to 😆)
Owned it on DVD. I saw it in the theaters back in 2007 in Austin, Tx at Paramount theater (with Lynch in attendance to talk about the film). Inland Empire was shot on a Sony PD150. Its just part of the esthetic of the movie is its look. It was project in 35mm, which you think okay logical lateral leap to 4K. No its just how Inland Empire is. It's special and unique even to him I find. It was the last feature film he did. Like why was Pink Flamingos in 4K. Yes I understand it got a 4K upgrade, but Lynch is directly approving this so I guess he is going for more of the experience I saw. I dunno, but I'm getting it.
I read a pretty good interview with him a few days ago, explaining that while he liked the novelty & freedom of the format that he shot on, the the outcome of the finished look made him "sad" in many ways--loss of colors, etc. You should check it out and see what he said; I found it pretty intriguing. Same interview he also sort of hints at being open to taking another look at Dune..
Hey Elliot Coen can you explain to me why Family Guy hasn't been getting anymore DVD releases since 2019 or 2020 or something like that and will they be released by either one of the mainstream physical media distributors or the independent boutique physical media distributors and when they ever get physical media releases sometime in the future
Would a 4k release be preferred? Yeah, probably. But Inland Empire was shot on pretty low-end digital cameras, and its pixilation is just part of it, for better or worse, and I doubt a 4k restoration could really improve it all that much (or, like you say, perhaps even make it worse). I've only ever owned the standard DVD, so a blu-ray will still be an upgrade for me, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.
I have seen some amazing AI 4k upscaled standard definition TV and made for TV movie clips, but I have also seen clips of the appalling 4k upscaled version of T2 which made a Laser Disc version look hi-def… Now it might cost far too much time, as well as money, to produce a high quality 4k upgrade for a film that was purposely filmed in standard def (possibly for artistic reasons) so a good quality high def version sounds okay to me. My concern would be the single new extra when the original point of Criterion discs, from the days of Laser Discs, was not just the transfer quality but also the number of exclusive extras included with the movie. I will admit that was when studios were producing ‘bare-bones’ discs, but we were given to expect that buying a Criterion disc meant better transfer, (more) extras and upgraded/new artwork. I also am not enthusiastic about the 4k ‘digi-pack’ packaging. Whilst the ‘Hard Day’s Night’ disc arrived from the US in excellent shape, the ‘Citizen Kane’ box arrived damaged. The disc was fine, and was the corrected version, so I didn’t bother returning it (great movie). Compared to the (decades old) packaging for my DVD version of Brazil, which was and still is amazing, I doubt the longevity of the newer boxes. Rant over. Anyway, thanks for keeping us up to date.
Love Mildred Pierce. But I’m sticking with my blu ray. If Criterion want to get punters excited, a 4K UHD release of The Rock and Armageddon… think the latter was Criterion’s last ever Laserdisc. For John Woo. I agree The Killer and Hard Boiled would be great, and boy after watching the Tartan DVD from the late 90s this film truly needs a total remaster.
I like Inland Empire, perhaps Lynch's best movie. I know that many will argue against that claim. However, Inland Empire does revisit and encapsulate a lot of themes that Lynch has previously explored.
1. I definitely wouldn't expect "Inland empire" on 4K. Still, it definitely makes sense on Blu-ray, not only because of greater resolution but because in general, this format offers a wider spectrum in other areas (fps variants, video & sound codecs, etc.). Concerning AI, I wouldn't compare this approach to pretty automated denoising they've done for some already released 4K. This time we're speaking of way more advanced AI (backed by Topaz labs). I think it's a new thing, and I expect solid results, but driving it to 4K release still wouldn't make much sense (it'll have to really create details there wasn't there). 2. I've recently watched "Mildred Pierce" criterion blu-ray, on a 4K projector (which does further upscaling to 8K), and it looked great already. I wouldn't expect noticeable extra detail from a 4K release, especially since the footage in many moments is intentionally foggy, and slightly out of focus (that's how they shot women back then). Still, I think added HDR can make a difference. I remember reviews of Raging Bull, where most say that HDR did a phenomenal job, I wonder how it can impact Mildred Pierce.
Sometimes, 4K restorations are very close from their 2k counterpart and there is no reason to release a 4K disc when the image quality is quite on par with the 1080p disc, and especially with old DI from the early years of the digital cinematography. Inland Empire was shot digitally with a Sony DSR-PD150. The DVCam/HDCAM SR sources files have a 720p/60 & 1080p/24 native definition. The only "restoration" of the movie could have been an upscale from the 2006 Digital Intermediate or a 4K scan of the 35mm print of the movie (made from the HD DI). A 4K presentation of the movie would have no differences from the 1080p disc.
I agree that it should not release on 4K, however, this makes me think of David Lynch's "iPhone Rant": th-cam.com/video/BcNLEwf2pOw/w-d-xo.html What makes it even funnier now is that the latest iPhones are actually 1080p!
I also bailed halfway (or less) through Inland Empire when it first came out on DVD but am excited to revisit it. The cover art is kinda trash tho IMO 😔
Criterion UHD has been real hit-or-miss. Half don’t have Dolby Vision HDR. I love ‘Inland Empire’, but let’s be real, it was shot on DV, and intentionally looks like shit. It’s not going to make any difference to have it in UHD or Blu-Ray.
Inland Empire is beyond ugly and that was exactly Lynch's intent. I don't think there will be that much of a difference between the original Blu-ray and the new one.
I just watched the Inland Empire restoration. It looks like trash. Lynch used the limitations of the SD original to a deliberate effect. This "restoration" was upscaled, which makes no sense, and actually makes it looks worse. Stick to the original.
I saw the film at the cinema when it came out. I don’t really understand how this could have been scanned in 4K as it was shot on low res DV…seems like a bit of a gimmick tbh as there’s very limited visual info! Still, I’m intrigued to see how it looks now, I thought the original DVD I have was going to be as a good as it gets.
Maybe 4k format was not a profitable market for Criterion releases. Or just several issues about 4k manufacturing / mastering in previous films were real headaches. I'm guessing.
It’s just the quality of the source . The one I couldn’t wrap my head around was millers crossing not getting the 4k but that was pretty early in 4k days for criterion. I imagine it’s profitable. It certainly costs more haha
They movie was shot on an SD video camera. There would be no point. Not sure HOW they did a “4k restoration”. I don’t like the movie at all. I didn’t like lost highway that much either but I’ll like watch that again. I won’t watch this again
For anyone that's actually watch this movie it doesn't make sense to me that they would be upset that it's not coming to 4K. Obviously we want things to look their absolute best and technology to upscale things these days is better than it's ever been, But on some level there's no getting around the fact that this movie was shot to have this sort of intentionally cruddy kind of look to it. It was quite literally shot that way. Any effort to try to make it look pristine would go against the integrity of the source. I think that sometimes they don't get so caught up in the idea of "4K everything!!" but they don't stop to think whether it mattered even makes sense. I highly look forward to the movie JFK coming to 4K, but it would be incredibly silly to try to make restoration of the Zapruder footage that's in that film look like it was shocked yesterday. The mystery and the uncertainty of the characters trying to get a better handle on the truth of what happened would be absolutely undermined if that footage was crystal clear
There's no 'reason to be excited' for any release of a film you couldn't even bear finish watching! I couldn't watch that crap all the way through either, and honestly I'm quite tired of Lynch's pretentiousness.
This is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen. I wasted 4 hours of the last day of one of my best years in the movie theater watching this garbage. Other than “The Straight Story” and “Mulholland Drive”, Lynch’s films are vastly overrated.
No point to a 4K version of a movie shot on SD video. It looked ugly in the cinema back in 2006. It felt like Laura Dern only had 20 minutes of screen time in a three hour picture, the rest is filler. Plotless and repetitive. I will be passing on this one.
@@nationalcoasternews5798 Admittedly I have very little recall of this movie, happily forgetting all about it and moving on to more compelling material.
Should INLAND EMPIRE have got a 4K disc in your opinion?
Psst, by the way, you can watch my top NOIR films in the Criterion Collection here - th-cam.com/video/prU2RvNZ1aY/w-d-xo.html
Inland Empire 4K would be as hilarious as 28 Days Later and The Idiots on 4K.
Shame about 28 days. I respect these big filmmakers using consumer grade cameras to show it can be done but damn these don’t age well
I saw 28 Days Later on Disney+ recently and it was like watching at 144p TH-cam video on my 55” tv
Yeah I assumed they wouldn't do it. Weird they did.
Also Festen
It is my favorite lynch film, as controversial as that may be. It allows for so much imaginative interpretation that the film can mean a million things to each person.
or nothing to no one😢
A masterpiece. I had the chance to see it in the theatre. As with Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway, one of the greatest experiences I’ve had as a filmgoer.
You must have a hell of an imagination then cause…just no. I mean ok you somehow like it? Fair enough. Better than mulholland drive? Blue velvet? The elephant man? Even wild at heart if you just love Laura Dern THAT much? This isn’t a hot take… it’s an insult to objectively superior films. I’m sorry I never flame somebody over a movie preference but you must be having a laugh.
Inland Empire sucked
The emperor has no clothes
I’d liked to have had Rabbits and Dumbland in the extras ! Maybe Criterion are considering a short films collection at some point.
I think the low quality digital look fits the film's story amazingly. It's hard to explain why but Inland Empire is one of the only films where the bad quality makes it better.
I've watched this film exactly once on DVD and still it became one of my favorite films of Lynch's
Hello! Just found your channel while searching for reviews of the new Inland Empire release. Back in 2007, I found DVD release difficult to get through. However, through the years, this one has become one of my favorite of Lynch films. I hope you've gotten around to watching it (the entire way through).
Not SUPER disappointed with Inland Empire not being presented on 4K disk, as it’s the same restoration shown in theaters. Haven’t personally seen it but I’ve heard great things (obviously all things considered). The weird thing is I saw an AMA several months ago with Sabrina Sutherland who is Lynch’s assistant. And she replied to a post asking about this very thing and she indicated that it would have a 4K disk. Im wondering if they’ll do an Uncut Gems and announce the 4K in a month or 2 and release them both at once. As far as the special features I really wish they included Rabbits, which is a 40 min short that is used in bits in Inland Empire. Also the cover art could’ve been better. I’ll definitely be getting it but it’s a bit lacking of a release unfortunately
I watched Inland Empire only once when it first came out and found it absolute torture to sit through but may give it another chance because I love everything else Lynch and it's been many years.
On a related issue does anyone know why criterion releases in the UK like Double indemnity only come as Blu-ray and the 4k is only an option in the US effectively doubling the cost? I have wondered whether it may be something to do with rights outside of the US?
I think it’s almost certainly that. You can get some releases here that Criterion have released on 4K but by other studios (Studiocanal, Warner etc), such as The Piano, Citizen Kane etc. How much their packages overlap or differs to that of Criterion’s I don’t know.
@@tompoynton I suppose it’s a big layout for Criterion to also go for other territories beyond USA when they can just let the film
@@tompoynton the film fans elsewhere soak up the extra cost.
@@analogueanorak1904 yeah, it’s just annoying for us here as yes we could import it and play it, but the extras blu-ray disc is useless unless we fork out for a region-free player
@@tompoynton I forked out for a region free after the Fellini boxset came out. My absolute favourite director so totally worth it for me. So I can watch the extras but have only imported the Red shoes and Raging Bull, needs to be exceptional to warrant the cost
Chilly scenes of Winter is a big pure cinema podcast favourite, so I’m keen to check that one out.
Love to see a John woo box set in 2023, with:
Better tomorrow 1 and 2
Killer
Hard boiled
Bullet in the head
Face off
Red cliff
The Crossing PT 1 and Pt2
I’m glad Criterion is issuing “Chilly Scenes of Winter”. It has the original ending, which mirrors the end of the novel.
I noticed a 4K release of George Romero's early, slightly rough around the edges, film Martin is being released? Next it will be Darren Aronofsky's Pi in Ultra 4K.
I have not 'upgraded' any of the previous 4K scans that were released as Bluray partially due to the fact that Criterion had explicitly told me they weren't going to UHD media. And, then they did. So, my Blue Velvet, Mullholland Drive I've decided to keep as these are the same scans. I think I may do the same with my prior Inland Empire Bluray; no real incentive to triple-dip.
Here after I ordered the Blu-ray since there is no 4k release. Before watching the video, I find it interesting that Janus Films restored it in 4k, so it’s baffling why they didn’t release that version. Hoping they don’t release it a few months down the line like Crimes of the Future.
Mini DV it was filmed on miniDV
I go to film school in upstate New York and saw the 4k restorations of Lost Highway and Inland Empire at Cornell Cinema. They honestly both looked equally amazing! Sure, the digital technology used in the latter gives it an "uglier" look, but it is a beautiful ugly that perfectly fits the mood of the film in my opinion. The new 4k restoration of Inland Empire is surely the best it has ever looked and probably ever will look. Sadly, I'm assuming that Criterion will continue to do what boutique labels have been doing for quite some time now and that is re-releasing the same title in 4k months to a year or more after the standard blu-ray was already released, forcing collectors to double dip on the same titles. I'm extremely disappointed I am not able to own the version of Inland Empire I saw in theaters upon release of the HD blu-ray.
Do you know if the theatrical version was actually shown in 4K with HDR or if it was just the 4K restoration upscale. Because the Blu-ray will pretty much be from the same thing
What we REALLY need is The Killer & Hard Boiled on 4K Ultra HD. More John Woo film's in the Criterion Collection is ALWAYS GREAT news.
I'm sure the bluray'll look perfectly ugly-great. It's coming from the same 4k upscale of the SD source so if anything it'll uglify it slightly more, and probably for the better concerning the films themes and tone. That movie was never meant to look pretty
It wasn't shot on film. It just wouldnt look good on 4K
I just wish it had been a digipak so it matched all his other Criterion releases. I was disappointed that the Lost Highway Blu-ray was just in a standard Criterion case. The 4k version was a digipak so I bought that and was planning to do the same with Inland Empire until I found out they weren't releasing the 4k.
This is really irritating, it feels like Criterion are going to re-release it at 4K.
I watched it a few years back, and sat through the 3 hours of running time. By the end of it, I was shook, it took me to places I'd never seen before with film. It's not Lynch's best, and it's quite messy, but I'd recommend trying to get through it all, as I found it at least, rewarding.
It was shot using a Sony PDF-150, which was standard definition digital video.
I did have some concerns about the 4k restoration only because I didn’t want it to become something that it wasn’t (i.e. like making an 8mm film into a 65mm). However, this was going to be supervised by DL and if something didn’t“look right” to him, it wouldn’t be used.
I managed to see this theatres during its tour and … yeah it was definitely a wild ride. It was definitely the missing link between Mulholland Drive and Twin Peaks: The Return.
I also think that it could have also been DL’s call for Blu only as he has *very* insistent and involved in home video presentation. (Hell, he could have presented this as a DVD if he wanted to 😆)
I just traded several .15 cent dvds for this film. I was wondering when it would come to the Criterion collection. Time to upgrade!
Owned it on DVD. I saw it in the theaters back in 2007 in Austin, Tx at Paramount theater (with Lynch in attendance to talk about the film). Inland Empire was shot on a Sony PD150. Its just part of the esthetic of the movie is its look. It was project in 35mm, which you think okay logical lateral leap to 4K. No its just how Inland Empire is. It's special and unique even to him I find. It was the last feature film he did. Like why was Pink Flamingos in 4K. Yes I understand it got a 4K upgrade, but Lynch is directly approving this so I guess he is going for more of the experience I saw. I dunno, but I'm getting it.
I read a pretty good interview with him a few days ago, explaining that while he liked the novelty & freedom of the format that he shot on, the the outcome of the finished look made him "sad" in many ways--loss of colors, etc. You should check it out and see what he said; I found it pretty intriguing. Same interview he also sort of hints at being open to taking another look at Dune..
Hey Elliot Coen can you explain to me why Family Guy hasn't been getting anymore DVD releases since 2019 or 2020 or something like that and will they be released by either one of the mainstream physical media distributors or the independent boutique physical media distributors and when they ever get physical media releases sometime in the future
Would a 4k release be preferred? Yeah, probably. But Inland Empire was shot on pretty low-end digital cameras, and its pixilation is just part of it, for better or worse, and I doubt a 4k restoration could really improve it all that much (or, like you say, perhaps even make it worse). I've only ever owned the standard DVD, so a blu-ray will still be an upgrade for me, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.
I have seen some amazing AI 4k upscaled standard definition TV and made for TV movie clips, but I have also seen clips of the appalling 4k upscaled version of T2 which made a Laser Disc version look hi-def…
Now it might cost far too much time, as well as money, to produce a high quality 4k upgrade for a film that was purposely filmed in standard def (possibly for artistic reasons) so a good quality high def version sounds okay to me. My concern would be the single new extra when the original point of Criterion discs, from the days of Laser Discs, was not just the transfer quality but also the number of exclusive extras included with the movie. I will admit that was when studios were producing ‘bare-bones’ discs, but we were given to expect that buying a Criterion disc meant better transfer, (more) extras and upgraded/new artwork.
I also am not enthusiastic about the 4k ‘digi-pack’ packaging. Whilst the ‘Hard Day’s Night’ disc arrived from the US in excellent shape, the ‘Citizen Kane’ box arrived damaged. The disc was fine, and was the corrected version, so I didn’t bother returning it (great movie).
Compared to the (decades old) packaging for my DVD version of Brazil, which was and still is amazing, I doubt the longevity of the newer boxes. Rant over.
Anyway, thanks for keeping us up to date.
I'm more upset that there's still no 4K of Plan 9 From Outer Space from Criterion.
Love Mildred Pierce. But I’m sticking with my blu ray. If Criterion want to get punters excited, a 4K UHD release of The Rock and Armageddon… think the latter was Criterion’s last ever Laserdisc. For John Woo. I agree The Killer and Hard Boiled would be great, and boy after watching the Tartan DVD from the late 90s this film truly needs a total remaster.
I too never got through it. I'll probably grab the new Blu. I do wonder what 4k would do to it. Nothing wise thank getting a "barely there" upgrade.
INLAND EMPIRE IS A PURE MASTERPIECE. SAW IT IN THE THEATERS IN 2006.
Also, Criterion persists in releasing Lynch titles without chapter stops even though he has long changed his mind about that.
hard boiled in 4k that would awesome
To be fair tho Inland Empire was filmed at a low resolution. They probably see a 4k version is pointless.
A John Woo BOX SET on 4K Ultra HD in 2023.
1. A Better Tomorrow 1& 2
2. The Killer
3. Hard Boiled
Chilly Scenes fucking masterpiece!
Yes I’ve tried to watch ‘Inland Empire’ but failed - granted only once and I’m a Lynch fan. Must give it another go😊
I like Inland Empire, perhaps Lynch's best movie. I know that many will argue against that claim. However, Inland Empire does revisit and encapsulate a lot of themes that Lynch has previously explored.
1. I definitely wouldn't expect "Inland empire" on 4K. Still, it definitely makes sense on Blu-ray, not only because of greater resolution but because in general, this format offers a wider spectrum in other areas (fps variants, video & sound codecs, etc.). Concerning AI, I wouldn't compare this approach to pretty automated denoising they've done for some already released 4K. This time we're speaking of way more advanced AI (backed by Topaz labs). I think it's a new thing, and I expect solid results, but driving it to 4K release still wouldn't make much sense (it'll have to really create details there wasn't there).
2. I've recently watched "Mildred Pierce" criterion blu-ray, on a 4K projector (which does further upscaling to 8K), and it looked great already. I wouldn't expect noticeable extra detail from a 4K release, especially since the footage in many moments is intentionally foggy, and slightly out of focus (that's how they shot women back then). Still, I think added HDR can make a difference. I remember reviews of Raging Bull, where most say that HDR did a phenomenal job, I wonder how it can impact Mildred Pierce.
Sometimes, 4K restorations are very close from their 2k counterpart and there is no reason to release a 4K disc when the image quality is quite on par with the 1080p disc, and especially with old DI from the early years of the digital cinematography.
Inland Empire was shot digitally with a Sony DSR-PD150. The DVCam/HDCAM SR sources files have a 720p/60 & 1080p/24 native definition. The only "restoration" of the movie could have been an upscale from the 2006 Digital Intermediate or a 4K scan of the 35mm print of the movie (made from the HD DI). A 4K presentation of the movie would have no differences from the 1080p disc.
I agree that it should not release on 4K, however, this makes me think of David Lynch's "iPhone Rant": th-cam.com/video/BcNLEwf2pOw/w-d-xo.html
What makes it even funnier now is that the latest iPhones are actually 1080p!
I’m buying Inland Empire no 4k is ok with me. Not everything has to be in 4k to enjoy a movie.
I also bailed halfway (or less) through Inland Empire when it first came out on DVD but am excited to revisit it. The cover art is kinda trash tho IMO 😔
Criterion UHD has been real hit-or-miss. Half don’t have Dolby Vision HDR. I love ‘Inland Empire’, but let’s be real, it was shot on DV, and intentionally looks like shit. It’s not going to make any difference to have it in UHD or Blu-Ray.
Unfortunately not a fan of Mr. Lynch. But I did really like the simplicity of "The Straight Story" and the strangeness of "Mulholland Dr."
Inland Empire is beyond ugly and that was exactly Lynch's intent. I don't think there will be that much of a difference between the original Blu-ray and the new one.
4K Upscaling of SD digital video looks weird as fuck.
It’s a real choice alright!
I just watched the Inland Empire restoration. It looks like trash. Lynch used the limitations of the SD original to a deliberate effect. This "restoration" was upscaled, which makes no sense, and actually makes it looks worse. Stick to the original.
It is a HARD watch. And I worship Lynch.
I saw the film at the cinema when it came out. I don’t really understand how this could have been scanned in 4K as it was shot on low res DV…seems like a bit of a gimmick tbh as there’s very limited visual info! Still, I’m intrigued to see how it looks now, I thought the original DVD I have was going to be as a good as it gets.
Maybe 4k format was not a profitable market for Criterion releases. Or just several issues about 4k manufacturing / mastering in previous films were real headaches. I'm guessing.
It’s just the quality of the source . The one I couldn’t wrap my head around was millers crossing not getting the 4k but that was pretty early in 4k days for criterion. I imagine it’s profitable. It certainly costs more haha
They movie was shot on an SD video camera. There would be no point. Not sure HOW they did a “4k restoration”. I don’t like the movie at all. I didn’t like lost highway that much either but I’ll like watch that again. I won’t watch this again
For anyone that's actually watch this movie it doesn't make sense to me that they would be upset that it's not coming to 4K. Obviously we want things to look their absolute best and technology to upscale things these days is better than it's ever been, But on some level there's no getting around the fact that this movie was shot to have this sort of intentionally cruddy kind of look to it. It was quite literally shot that way. Any effort to try to make it look pristine would go against the integrity of the source.
I think that sometimes they don't get so caught up in the idea of "4K everything!!" but they don't stop to think whether it mattered even makes sense. I highly look forward to the movie JFK coming to 4K, but it would be incredibly silly to try to make restoration of the Zapruder footage that's in that film look like it was shocked yesterday. The mystery and the uncertainty of the characters trying to get a better handle on the truth of what happened would be absolutely undermined if that footage was crystal clear
Ellie, I tried twice to watched Inland Empire and stopped after 20 minutes!!! Very bad film!
There's no 'reason to be excited' for any release of a film you couldn't even bear finish watching! I couldn't watch that crap all the way through either, and honestly I'm quite tired of Lynch's pretentiousness.
This is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen. I wasted 4 hours of the last day of one of my best years in the movie theater watching this garbage. Other than “The Straight Story” and “Mulholland Drive”, Lynch’s films are vastly overrated.
No point to a 4K version of a movie shot on SD video. It looked ugly in the cinema back in 2006. It felt like Laura Dern only had 20 minutes of screen time in a three hour picture, the rest is filler. Plotless and repetitive. I will be passing on this one.
She’s in practically every scene?
@@nationalcoasternews5798 Admittedly I have very little recall of this movie, happily forgetting all about it and moving on to more compelling material.
What a waste of potential
I like David Lynch very much. But Inland Empire is just a bad movie.