Also, The Great Issac Hayes had the deep, sexy voice FIRST!! However, his IRS troubles literally caused him to be forced to STOP singing according the press at that time. Allegedly, it seems that not paying his taxes properly that organization allegedly entitled them to prevent him from using his own voice if he could Not pay that bill. That is how it was told.in the media . REMARKABLY, AT THAT VERY SAME TIME THE GREAT BARRY WHITE brought his SEXY, DEEP VOICE ON THE SCENE N ROCKED THE' WORLD' !!!! Then also a thinker, Issac Hayes started the celebrity' DJ on the radio phenomena that others have followed. Moreso, Issac Hayes became a VERY' well known and beloved Actor on the big screen," I' m gonna hit you sucka", "Truck Turner" and possibly " Original Gangstas" with the great Jim Brown and on some TV shows. He also, was on "South Park."
Whitney had the most wonderful voice awful learning how she was a victim of the Hollywood predators. R.I.P. love Barty White too his music so romantic .
No there are beautiful artists out there, they're just not at the top of the charts. Your words reminded me of the song Music by Leela James, it's a true gem that I just know you're going to love.
I have to admit, I bought tickets to see him perform in 1993 without knowing much about Luther, but knew he'd have a superb band and his back-up singers.....! OMG!
Barry was from around Compton so he stood up as his own man he had his own company and not too many black men in that time own any record company that's why he made his own music 🎵🎶 whatever he liked not anyone else could tell him what to write ✍️
Barry was an old school LA Ganster from the Slauson Business Men. Barry was a big, strong dude too with connections to the LA streets. Clive couldn't punk him. Luther on the other hand....???? 👀
Barry also got his start in the music industry at Del-Fi Records in California. The label was founded by the legendary Bob Keane, who was regarded as both a genius and a crook. Having seen how Del-Fi operated, there was NO chance of cheating Barry, because he knew the industry too well! 🤔
This guy Luthur increased the population. I wonder how many ppl were conceived by his music What a singer he left some amazing music for us. Salute sir 🙏
I must say that Luther Vandross’s sexual orientation was his business as far as I am concerned, but his music transcended all of that! Back in the day when I was trying get next to a girl I liked, I wasn’t concerned about Luther’s sexuality, I just liked the mood that his voice and music created. All I needed was my “Hoopty”, a bottle of “Swiss Up” and a “fine sister” and some 🎵 Barry, Luther and “Smokey” music playing, and it let the fun begin!!! I appreciate this video which has given me just a small look behind the scenes about what these artists had to endure back then. Very enlightening, thank you! RIP Barry and Luther. 🙏🏾💐✊🏾✌🏾
My mother loved Luther also, we went to see him in AC for her birthday. Oh my stars what a performance, she talked about that concert for months. RIP. We will always LOVE you
That's not true. Both Luther and Barry were hospitalized and died after each other. Their deaths dominated the news. How do I know this? I was one of the journalists who attended and covered a prayer vigil for both of them, and the stars who came to pay tribute was a who is who of music. It's important to make your point without including false information.
@orralandathomas8420 o wish the government could make it legal and public who collects on who when they die especially when entertertainers die Clive davis must be chief recipient ,like how much money do you need to live this short life ,at a 100 it's still short..😮and you die ,,,unless they are vampires.
I remember seeing Luther in the early 90s, and that was a concert to remember. We took a bus from MD to NY to a theater that had a stage that was in the round.
People knew it, we loved his music. He suffered in silence for nothing. Maybe his mother would have still loved him. Being a mother myself, you love your children no matter what.
I remember when Luther Vandross career really got started and he was with the group called Change.Where is there any publication,conversation that any body had that Luther Vandross was gay ?I never heard of any of this until after he passed in 2005.And from his on race mostly.
RIP L Vandross. His first album Never Too Much is a classic. IMO!! The song Never Too Much from his 1st album is my all time favorite song by Vandross. Bruh Vandross is gone but not forgotten. I play the song Never Too Much every time I think about that song. 🗣♊️👤Rising
@@MattyNelson-rs3ik - I think he also said he didn't want to come out because of his mother. But what he didn't understand is mother's always know - they have that mother's sense and intuition!
By the way. Black people are not homophobic nor do we have a deep obsession for toxic masculinity. Just because we don't agree or embrace homosexuality as a community, doesn't mean we are homophobic. We just don't agree with it or believe it's best for us. And our men being men is NOT toxic masculinity. I don't know about the rest of the Black people who watched this, but those statements are a crazy disrespectful in my opinion and thumbing the video down. You all are going to learn that you can't just say what you want about us. Just like jewish people and gays, you are going to learn to keep our people out your mouth or suffer the consequences. You will learn that today.
Artist are worth dead than alive. Whitney Houston, Phyllis Hyman, Michael Jackson to name a few were all under the Clive Davis umbrella and others who died.....coincidence?🤔 I think not.
@@shirleyeaglin9075that slavery and ownership of another’s persons person that’s a slave holder mentality … and don’t think they won’t reap what was sown.
This was misleading and clickbait. But I enjoyed seeing Barry White. I wish I knew more about him. The big strong black man. That is the kind of man we need around here right now. Rest in Peace Mr. Barry White. You are missed. 😢❤😊
Well.......Luther was just as gay as Clive..Clive is a genius no doubt but is also shady......I thought we all knew that......Nevertheless, gay or not, Luther is still my top 5 best male vocalist of all times.
Yes I think it was - he knew deep down inside he was lying to straight women , women thought he was singing to them without a doubt . Had women been ridiculed by their men , boyfriends , brothers , fathers for sweating over a homosexual man sleeping and singing to other men is an abomination hoax and slap in the face contradictional lie .... sales would've went down dramatically or come to a stop by 50% in a short period !
@@darkgableco.7237 Yeah I think you're right. A completely different situation to someone like Freddie Prince who's fame didn't come from their sex appeal to their female fans. Also being gay wasn't necessarily celebrated by the black community; people might have speculated that Luther was gay, but without confirmation one could ignore it if they chose.
" When you take the first bite" of the big apple of greed. Yep the tree of knowing good and evil...your soul will "surely die" Eat from the tree planted in the all glorious paradise- the revelation of God and His scriptures. You can't get in the garden? Oh sorry...that takes effort desire and guidance, "O seeker of truth."
Rolling Stones Magazine started out in the 1960`s as a magazine that covered rock and roll music and rock and roll entertainers.They certainly see Vandross as number 50.To me it is a joke.
Oh yes Barry White and Luther vandross they left behind from a very strong legacy how could anyone ever forget them this is very unfortunate again that Luther just didn't want to listen to what very white had to tell him 🪅🪅 because after all Barry White has already been out there in the industry and he was only trying to look out for brother man Luther😮❤❤
I believe that Luther's fear of owning his sexual identity during the 80s was largely due to the experiences that informed his views. Black people knew Sylvester was openly gay and threw mad support his way. We showed up for all of his concerts and bought his albums. Many of us in the hood, especially the ladies, knew Luther was gay. And even still, we bumped his music like it was an addiction!✊🏿💯
i was working the Diana Ross benefit tour(2000?) and met Luther during one of her performances in Philly. After the show,Luther said,wanna meet Diana? The rest is a historical visit,with Ms.Ross in her dressing room.! She must have thought Luther and I were childhood friends,she was so attentive to me during that tour,that everyone seemed to notice it,she even had her chef Robbie cook for my step parents in miami...too many stories to tell...Luther was a regular guy.
It’s crazy how he hated being a big guy and his fans loved his music more so when he was a bigger guy..he was loved just the way he was, yet I understand that being slimmer is what he truly desired.
He should've stopped eating pork bread cheese and mayonnaise he would've been alright .. baked crock potted roasted food and vegetables would've seen him achieve his goal
Yeah, I hated that...and here's the kicker or this is where it gets juicy. Plus definitely clickbait. Never really showed any proof of the supposed reason for the title. But it was nice to get more history about Barry and Luther and see some pics I hadn't seen.
This was a huge loss and I never really got over this and Whitney's death either. It's been a lot of talk about unexplained death in the industry lately!
You omitted the very important fact that Luther had a very successful career creating and signing commercial jingles.... that is how he got started in the music industry.
Berry White and Luther Van dross were one in a Million pure souls that pass through this world , that Loved to make other's happy with their sincere soul touching lyrics in song....... They were ( 100 %) Perfection in their harmony and their concerts for anyone who had an opportunity to see and hear them.❤❤
Luthers private life was his private life. He has to answer to God for his personal sins and struggles, just like we all have to do. We all struggle with sin. He was talented. RIP Mr. Vandross.❤
@@dennismclaurin1487Hebrews 9:27 Let us believe and repent before our time is up. Death is a one way ticket to eternity. I would rather believe my Maker.
That duet with Gregory Hines cinched it for me. That was the 80s. Ten years later. His hit, "Here And Now" was my number one pick for my wedding processional.
This "Inside The Industry" video is misleading, to say the least! It spoke not one word of the "warnings" that Barry White supposedly offered Luther Vandross!!!
That's because some of the 'warnings' are subliminal. Read between the lines!! He's talking about the same man that hosted a party after Whitney's death. SMH!
@@johnbarnett4036 "Subliminal warnings" and reading between the lines ain't getting it for me, neither was I expecting to do one or the other as it relates to this video! I was expecting CONCRETE FACTS and QUOTES coming from Barry White's mouth! The people behind the video call themselves "Inside The Industry" and I was expecting the "Inside-Scoop!" It was all a conniving game, just like the majority of the videos on TH-cam: a lot of sensationalistic titles to get ratings and they offer very little, if anything in return!
The only thing that matters is the music Luther made, he was indeed " the voice of a generation" who to this day is still sorely missed and so is the great Barry White, sadly that era of music is gone but never forgotten by those of us who were blessed to have witnessed it...
Loved me some Luther, he got me through some broken hearts. I saw him in person, no words can explain how awesome he was. I didnt care about him being gay, i was there for the music. Forever, for always Luther.
Luther Vandross signed to Epic Records in the early 80s, not J Records. Clive Davis was the boss at Arista Records, so this information is not chronologically correct. J Records was created in 2000.
I love Patti…but that was not for her to say anything…..she was wrong…ppl will do anything for money & to be something of importance….she lost a lot of points with me….she had no right at all…
My late father went on a date to a Luther concert and told me he had front row seats and Luther was staring at him while he was singing on stage and definitely said he was gay.
Yes we Black people need to make them broke,Black singers,actors,actresses, sports people no music ,no acting no sports for 1 year..sit your asses down.
I can't believe that Mimi said that it was intimidating standing next to Luther vandross when they were making their duet together wow Mariah Carey said that 💄💘💞🪅
Anyone who didn't know Luther and Clive were gay just wasnt paying attention. Now to the important stuff. The first time I heard Luther sing was in the eighties when he dropped "Never Too Much" That voice was pure velvet gold. May God rest his soul and let us thank him for all his great music. Rest in peace Luther! 🙏🏻❤️🕊️
Absolutely loved Barry White, smart guy too having his own label, wasn't corrupted by other sources it seems. His music will still be around for a long time to come
Simple. Barry White was never Greedy. Greed didn't rule his life! He was one of the Best singers ever. He knew it and refused the B/S !!!
Yes Shirley! He did not have to be greedy! His talent spoke for him! ❤😎
I agree ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Barry White was a Man Man….RIP Barry White and Luther
Plus Barry, who grew up in South Central Los Angeles, had plenty of street sense. He knew BS and called BS when he saw it.
@@mhampton8358
NOBODY CAN TOUCH BARRY WHITE AND HIS LOVE UNLIMITED ORCHESTRA, FULL STOP!
True ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
facts
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️👏🏽👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
Yessssssss I love that song
Berry White was just My everything, Fabulous!!
Barry was so bright, a man way ahead of his time.
He had wisdom......👍
That comes from God Almighty.❤
Yes
Also, The Great Issac Hayes had the deep, sexy voice FIRST!! However, his IRS troubles literally caused him to be forced to STOP singing according the press at that time. Allegedly, it seems that not paying his taxes properly that organization allegedly entitled them to prevent him from using his own voice if he could Not pay that bill. That is how it was told.in the media . REMARKABLY, AT THAT VERY SAME TIME THE GREAT BARRY WHITE brought his SEXY, DEEP VOICE ON THE SCENE N ROCKED THE' WORLD' !!!! Then also a thinker, Issac Hayes started the celebrity' DJ on the radio phenomena that others have followed. Moreso, Issac Hayes became a VERY' well known and beloved Actor on the big screen," I' m gonna hit you sucka", "Truck Turner" and possibly " Original Gangstas" with the great Jim Brown and on some TV shows. He also, was on "South Park."
R.I.P. to both Barry White and Luther Vandross🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽👑👑. Gone but will never be forgotten ♥️♥️♥️
Whitney and Luther have some of the most beautiful voices that ever grace this earth and it's unfortunate they where under Clive...imo
Oh good grief. Did Clive kill them? LOL.
Whitney had the most wonderful voice awful learning how she was a victim of the Hollywood predators. R.I.P. love Barty White too his music so romantic .
Probably knows all bout it@@tonysmith9930
Berry White was an extraordinary singer, songwriter, musician
💯
Maestro
*Barry ✌️🤓
YES, HE WAS!!!💯
@triaavery2000 that's it there baby!
All the legends are gone. This music today. Is pure trash. SAD
I totally agree
It was trash 50 years ago
Especially the Black music industry, I believe this is part of what's wrong with these young people.
No there are beautiful artists out there, they're just not at the top of the charts. Your words reminded me of the song Music by Leela James, it's a true gem that I just know you're going to love.
Yep.
I don't care if Luther was gay or straight loved him for his talent & his personality seemed great. ❤
Same
I agree with all you say, too bad he's not around today
I absolutely agree with you! 💯💯💯👍🏿
I have to admit, I bought tickets to see him perform in 1993 without knowing much about Luther, but knew he'd have a superb band and his back-up singers.....! OMG!
He had Class......"point blank".❤👍
Barry is a true GOAT...love all his music...hate he is gone too😢
Oh, he must have worked for Clive because he died early too.
Me too. The love.
All Celebs are Sell Outs , there is no GOAT !!!
Omg yes bought of them died heart attack right
I BEEN LISTENING TO BARRY WHITES LOVE UNLIMITED ORCHESTRA SINCE 1974, I STILL DO. RIP MAESTRO.❤️🖤💚
A'men ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Barrys speaking and singing voice were both sensual and spectacular....He was brilliant
Sounds like Mr. Don Cornelius doesn’t he 😁
Barry was from around Compton so he stood up as his own man he had his own company and not too many black men in that time own any record company that's why he made his own music 🎵🎶 whatever he liked not anyone else could tell him what to write ✍️
Barry was not from around Compton. He was from Watts.
@@patricehughley2587 well as I said around Compton as in meaning rough parts of the city he wasn't a coward
Barry White was from Galveston Texas.
@@thomascarroll39 Yes, born in TX, raised in Watts.
@@patricehughley2587 I didn't know that, now I understand why he didn't have a Texas accent. Now I can talk noise to these Texas folks. Thanks 👍🏼
Barry was about that life so Clive was lucky. Barry doesn't get the credit he deserves...but they didn't try Barry White trust and believe.
Barry was a real life gangster back in the day
@@jarrodmurray6424Yeah I could see that.
Barry was an old school LA Ganster from the Slauson Business Men. Barry was a big, strong dude too with connections to the LA streets. Clive couldn't punk him. Luther on the other hand....???? 👀
😂
@@johnnyhall1627 aye... you know Luther was one a the "geechies." 😂🤣😂🤣
😂😂😂😂 Yep 😅😅
I haven't heard "Slauson Business Men" in a minute! I had no idea Barry was from there.
Barry also got his start in the music industry at Del-Fi Records in California. The label was founded by the legendary Bob Keane, who was regarded as both a genius and a crook. Having seen how Del-Fi operated, there was NO chance of cheating Barry, because he knew the industry too well! 🤔
This guy Luthur increased the population. I wonder how many ppl were conceived by his music What a singer he left some amazing music for us. Salute sir 🙏
Man I could listen to Barry's voice forever.
I knew Barry White personally and he was a good man. Every time I was in his presence, he was so kind.
Barry White 🤍 was the king!! His voice was like no other!! His passion was phenomenal!! God bless you
Barry 🩵 RIP🩵
I don't care what he was,or what he did I loved Luther and I still play his music today
True that
Nobody is doubting his talent ❤
Any artist who died after signing with CD should be seriously looked at.
Barry Manilow WAS ARISTA
Janis, Whitney, and Luther, for sure.
ridiculous conspiracy theory comment.
👍...... /// ......👉 Large Power with a lot of control in the music and in Hollywood world .
@@ChristChickAutistic Don't forget Phyllis (Hyman) and Angela (Bofill). Clive's got A LOT of "red ink" on his ledger, for sure...
One of the few Artists that had his own multi,-instrumental assembly, The Love Unlimited Orchestra.
Barry White IS a big name in music not WAS
I absolutely agree with you 💯💯👍🏿
I love Barry but the industry that he was part of is dead and has been replaced with something worse.
The devil has a face - Clive is his name
Henry Kissinger
Very True 💯 percent
Absolutely!! FACTS
Facts REAL facts.
Agreed- but I think the devil has MANY faces (especially in Hollyweird)!
I must say that Luther Vandross’s sexual orientation was his business as far as I am concerned, but his music transcended all of that! Back in the day when I was trying get next to a girl I liked, I wasn’t concerned about Luther’s sexuality, I just liked the mood that his voice and music created. All I needed was my “Hoopty”, a bottle of “Swiss Up” and a “fine sister” and some 🎵 Barry, Luther and “Smokey” music playing, and it let the fun begin!!! I appreciate this video which has given me just a small look behind the scenes about what these artists had to endure back then. Very enlightening, thank you! RIP Barry and Luther. 🙏🏾💐✊🏾✌🏾
Barry White couldnt be bought! He was intelligent, had street cred', and was super talented. Loved his music.
My mother loved Luther also, we went to see him in AC for her birthday. Oh my stars what a performance, she talked about that concert for months. RIP. We will always LOVE you
That's why they hardly even mentioned when Barry died. What a shame.
Wowwwww
He was mentioned a lot.
watchoo talkin' 'bout Willys
Then you don't remember him when he died. It was big news when he dies. Nit sure what you talking about? Radii played his music and he had tributes
That's not true. Both Luther and Barry were hospitalized and died after each other. Their deaths dominated the news. How do I know this? I was one of the journalists who attended and covered a prayer vigil for both of them, and the stars who came to pay tribute was a who is who of music. It's important to make your point without including false information.
every artist that clive had under him have died specially when they want out of their contract i see where diddy got it from so sad
Noticed that , huh? M sure it's all just coincidence, right??
Life insurance policy
IT'S THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY . . . . . ITS THEIR BUSINESS MODEL . . . .👀"👀"👀💯💯💯💯💯
Yes he trained diddy well.
@orralandathomas8420 o wish the government could make it legal and public who collects on who when they die especially when entertertainers die Clive davis must be chief recipient ,like how much money do you need to live this short life ,at a 100 it's still short..😮and you die ,,,unless they are vampires.
Just loved his smooth, silky tones
Clive Davis is the Wescraven of the Music Industry
I heard Clive gave Luther diabetes to kill him. [sarcasm]
@@tonysmith9930please he had a weight problem plus he was gay he done himself in
You sound like Hitler’s great grandson!
I remember seeing Luther in the early 90s, and that was a concert to remember. We took a bus from MD to NY to a theater that had a stage that was in the round.
Amen mr Barry Amen it’s GREED always 👍🏻🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
People knew it, we loved his music. He suffered in silence for nothing. Maybe his mother would have still loved him. Being a mother myself, you love your children no matter what.
His Mother knew
A mother knows
Lies, there's so many terrible mothers out. Women delete their children at a much higher rate than men
@@pamelasmith749 I agree, but out of respect for her he wasn't public. He was a major talent and a respectful son. ❤
I remember when Luther Vandross career really got started and he was with the group called Change.Where is there any publication,conversation that any body had that Luther Vandross was gay ?I never heard of any of this until after he passed in 2005.And from his on race mostly.
RIP L Vandross.
His first album Never Too Much is a classic. IMO!!
The song Never Too Much from his 1st album is my all time favorite song by Vandross.
Bruh Vandross is gone but not forgotten.
I play the song Never Too Much every time I think about that song.
🗣♊️👤Rising
Clive Davis is involved in WAAAAAAAY darker things than that!
Of course he is
"Here's where it gets juicy!!" This A.I. crap is so irritating!!
Yup!🤨🙄 I hate it!😤
I know , right !
😂😂
I was about to post take a shot 🥃 every time it says "here's where it gets juicy" loll 😆
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂it kept you watching tho because it kept me watching too 😂😂😂😂
I think most of us knew that Luther was gay a long time ago..
Yep 😮 I did!🙏🏾🙌🏾😇💝
He kept his life very private
For sure
@@MattyNelson-rs3ik - I think he also said he didn't want to come out because of his mother.
But what he didn't understand is mother's always know - they have that mother's sense and intuition!
@@MattyNelson-rs3ikIt was blatantly obvious. His sassy disputes with women in the industry was major clue
Luther is a legend in music and vocals, and we love him for that we knew, and that's his personal life, and he still carried himself with class.
Not like these rainbow brights today ***** shameful x disrespectful
Clive should be in jail!!!@
Too much money
Clive knows where all the all the skeletons are buried, going back to Sam Cooke
Oh he's going somewhere but it's going to be a firey prison for a devil like him. I believe wholeheartedly that he had Houston deleted
@@PedroTorres-ny6txSam Cooke? Please explain? Was Clive around back then?
By the way. Black people are not homophobic nor do we have a deep obsession for toxic masculinity. Just because we don't agree or embrace homosexuality as a community, doesn't mean we are homophobic. We just don't agree with it or believe it's best for us. And our men being men is NOT toxic masculinity. I don't know about the rest of the Black people who watched this, but those statements are a crazy disrespectful in my opinion and thumbing the video down. You all are going to learn that you can't just say what you want about us. Just like jewish people and gays, you are going to learn to keep our people out your mouth or suffer the consequences. You will learn that today.
Clive Davis is a sick individual! He does not belong in the music business at all! This horrible!
Exactly now you know the deal on all of these skin walkers
It would be interesting to know if Clive Davis had a life insurance policies on all his dead artists
Of course he did. It's business, and all good business men has an insurance policy on your products should something happen where things change.
I pray that the government makes them declare who gets their money..,somebody knows..all about him..
ULI BY À-L-L MEAN 👀😲
Artist are worth dead than alive. Whitney Houston, Phyllis Hyman, Michael Jackson to name a few were all under the Clive Davis umbrella and others who died.....coincidence?🤔 I think not.
@@shirleyeaglin9075that slavery and ownership of another’s persons person that’s a slave holder mentality … and don’t think they won’t reap what was sown.
This was misleading and clickbait. But I enjoyed seeing Barry White. I wish I knew more about him. The big strong black man. That is the kind of man we need around here right now. Rest in Peace Mr. Barry White. You are missed. 😢❤😊
I saw Luther vandross at a SoCal concert
Exactly. And the voice over mispronounced a gang of names in AI-ish ways.
He did warn Luther... he told him not to get greedy
Such awful clickbait. And the idiots in this thread actually believe Clive is a serial killer. They must follow Alex Jones.
Don't we though. Men today are so soft not all but enough
R I P Barry White
WORD 🙏🏿🖤❤️💚
Well.......Luther was just as gay as Clive..Clive is a genius no doubt but is also shady......I thought we all knew that......Nevertheless, gay or not, Luther is still my top 5 best male vocalist of all times.
He is no genius, he is a greedy wwll anyway.
The music sells itself
Clive is the freaking devil
genius at what?
Who are your other top 4 singers 🎤 are Marvin Gaye and Sam Cooke on your list ,? Just wondering 🤔 / 😊
Duress and Undue Influence of Clive Davis in the entertainment industry.
Luther did not listen to Barry.
Luther's orientation was a none issue. It was his talent that really mattered.
r.i.p. Luther
True that
Exactly.
❤️true ❤
Yes I think it was - he knew deep down inside he was lying to straight women , women thought he was singing to them without a doubt . Had women been ridiculed by their men , boyfriends , brothers , fathers for sweating over a homosexual man sleeping and singing to other men is an abomination hoax and slap in the face contradictional lie .... sales would've went down dramatically or come to a stop by 50% in a short period !
@@darkgableco.7237 Yeah I think you're right. A completely different situation to someone like Freddie Prince who's fame didn't come from their sex appeal to their female fans. Also being gay wasn't necessarily celebrated by the black community; people might have speculated that Luther was gay, but without confirmation one could ignore it if they chose.
Clive is the devil and anyone that tried to leave him, left in a body bag 😢😢😢
So true! It seems like everyone is blind here no one knows that Clive murdered everyone
Whitney's death is still suspicious. Clive spoke at the funeral.
@@Mr.R-xv4lethe devil that he still is. Satan will speak yours too
@@Mr.R-xv4le phyllis Hyman, Janis Joplin…
He's just like Diddy.
" When you take the first bite" of the big apple of greed. Yep the tree of knowing good and evil...your soul will "surely die" Eat from the tree planted in the all glorious paradise- the revelation of God and His scriptures. You can't get in the garden? Oh sorry...that takes effort desire and guidance, "O seeker of truth."
This is why I stayed out of the business. And this is why the greatest talents are NOT in the business.
Yeah thats why plus you haven't talent enough to get into the biz,....
Makes 2 of us. I still have over 250 songs collecting dust.
@@DavidG.Hudson I would love if I could discover them
@@DavidG.Hudsonlet me hear something
Barry White was the man
50 what? Luther got the greatest voice I’ve ever heard.
Rolling Stones Magazine started out in the 1960`s as a magazine that covered rock and roll music and rock and roll entertainers.They certainly see Vandross as number 50.To me it is a joke.
Top 20 for sure
When you’re not humble or don’t have morals greed gets to you.
Well Whitney ain't here no more either..She worked for Clive ..
Thank you for the beautiful music. I will pray for their souls and may God do justice for all musicians.
Oh yes Barry White and Luther vandross they left behind from a very strong legacy how could anyone ever forget them this is very unfortunate again that Luther just didn't want to listen to what very white had to tell him 🪅🪅 because after all Barry White has already been out there in the industry and he was only trying to look out for brother man Luther😮❤❤
All you can do is ⚠️ he did try to look after him
I believe that Luther's fear of owning his sexual identity during the 80s was largely due to the experiences that informed his views. Black people knew Sylvester was openly gay and threw mad support his way. We showed up for all of his concerts and bought his albums. Many of us in the hood, especially the ladies, knew Luther was gay. And even still, we bumped his music like it was an addiction!✊🏿💯
i was working the Diana Ross benefit tour(2000?) and met Luther during one of her performances in Philly. After the show,Luther said,wanna meet Diana? The rest is a historical visit,with Ms.Ross in her dressing room.! She must have thought Luther and I were childhood friends,she was so attentive to me during that tour,that everyone seemed to notice it,she even had her chef Robbie cook for my step parents in miami...too many stories to tell...Luther was a regular guy.
It’s crazy how he hated being a big guy and his fans loved his music more so when he was a bigger guy..he was loved just the way he was, yet I understand that being slimmer is what he truly desired.
He should've stopped eating pork bread cheese and mayonnaise he would've been alright .. baked crock potted roasted food and vegetables would've seen him achieve his goal
All the Queens in new York knew he was a Queen no big surprises.
Rip to both Barry White and Luther vandross
R.I.P LUTHER VANDROSS 😢😢😢😢
Narrator’s voice is so annoying and to top it off, repeatedly saying “this is where it gets juicy” and “here’s the kicker”.
I think it an AI program. Notice how this voice mispronounced certain words. Also those phrases you mentioned are repeatiive in some parts.
Yeah, I hated that...and here's the kicker or this is where it gets juicy. Plus definitely clickbait. Never really showed any proof of the supposed reason for the title. But it was nice to get more history about Barry and Luther and see some pics I hadn't seen.
That’s what AI does.
The credibility of the "reporting " suffers because of it.
This was a huge loss and I never really got over this and Whitney's death either. It's been a lot of talk about unexplained death in the industry lately!
This thing called Clive Davis won't last long.
@@jerrywilliams5235 yeah I hope not bc he's tied to so much. I never did trust him behind those glasses he wears
He is old now, he will be dead before he see anytime in jail.
You omitted the very important fact that Luther had a very successful career creating and signing commercial jingles.... that is how he got started in the music industry.
That’s crazy I didn’t realize that the blank tape business destroyed the record business
That's rediculous. The pie is big enough. No fork destroyed the pie.
The business is doing fine
Nothing is free, especially stardom in the music or film industry!
Everything has a price!!!!
What are you willing to pay?!
STAY AWAY FROM HOLLYWOOD.
BARRY WHITE WAS SMART. HE HAD HIS OWN RECORD LABEL.
DURESS AND UNDUE INFLUENCE OF CLIVE DAVIS.
Especially if run by demons
@@sskiddles31081their souls,,just like essau sold his birthright for a bowl of red porridge this world is full of essauites.
Sam Cooke had his own label decades before Barry. I believe so did James Brown. Please do your research before sensationalism for views.
Nobody cares, the black neighborhoods are still dilapidated and poor
Sam Cooke was killed just like so many others who's lives ended in tragedy going down the Yellow Brick Road to Hollyweird.
The video says one of the first. Not the first.
Sam Cooke was the 1st😊.
@@jalove7 Dissecting semantically doesn’t change that most people heard “the first “
We live in a world of alternative truth and selective listening.
If Luther Vandross didn’t expose himself and took “his business” to his grave, his friends should have kept quiet about “his business” as well.
We need to be careful not to pull skeletons out of other people's closets. Because ours will certainly be next!
Amen!! It's not our business!!
Word is, Clive turned Diddy out. Way back in the day, to get his deal.
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Berry White and Luther Van dross were one in a Million pure souls that pass through this world , that Loved to make other's happy with their sincere soul touching lyrics in song.......
They were ( 100 %) Perfection in their harmony and their concerts for anyone who had an opportunity to see and hear them.❤❤
Making Joyful noise in Heaven......👍❤❤
I still miss #LutherVandross
💔😥🙏🏼🙏🏼🌹
"HERE IS WHERE IT GETS JUICY" Still waiting lol
WORD SMFH
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Luthers private life was his private life. He has to answer to God for his personal sins and struggles, just like we all have to do. We all struggle with sin. He was talented. RIP Mr. Vandross.❤
Mat.1:21
God will save His people ( the outcasts of Israel Ps.147:2, described in 1COR.1:-27,28) from their sins
@@dennismclaurin1487Hebrews 9:27 Let us believe and repent before our time is up. Death is a one way ticket to eternity. I would rather believe my Maker.
Clive Davis saw the desperation in Luther's eyes to become a lead singer and that's when Clive's manipulation began
That duet with Gregory Hines cinched it for me. That was the 80s. Ten years later. His hit, "Here And Now" was my number one pick for my wedding processional.
You don't allow something that you, don't allow. It's that simple.
There are rumors that he was surrounded by butt takers during the signing.... Remaining independent is the best way to go.
This "Inside The Industry" video is misleading, to say the least! It spoke not one word of the "warnings" that Barry White supposedly offered Luther Vandross!!!
Yes it did 😂tf was u looking at
No you think. Lol😅😂😂😂
That's because some of the 'warnings' are subliminal. Read between the lines!! He's talking about the same man that hosted a party after Whitney's death. SMH!
@@johnbarnett4036 "Subliminal warnings" and reading between the lines ain't getting it for me, neither was I expecting to do one or the other as it relates to this video! I was expecting CONCRETE FACTS and QUOTES coming from Barry White's mouth! The people behind the video call themselves "Inside The Industry" and I was expecting the "Inside-Scoop!" It was all a conniving game, just like the majority of the videos on TH-cam: a lot of sensationalistic titles to get ratings and they offer very little, if anything in return!
These entertainers ignore the warning signs bcuz the thrist for fame is so strong.
The only thing that matters is the music Luther made, he was indeed " the voice of a generation" who to this day is still sorely missed and so is the great Barry White, sadly that era of music is gone but never forgotten by those of us who were blessed to have witnessed it...
Loved me some Luther, he got me through some broken hearts. I saw him in person, no words can explain how awesome he was. I didnt care about him being gay, i was there for the music. Forever, for always Luther.
Luther Vandross signed to Epic Records in the early 80s, not J Records. Clive Davis was the boss at Arista Records, so this information is not chronologically correct. J Records was created in 2000.
Rest well Luther vandross 😇 😇😇😇
I love Patti…but that was not for her to say anything…..she was wrong…ppl will do anything for money & to be something of importance….she lost a lot of points with me….she had no right at all…
Agreed!!
I took my late mother to a concert of Luther Vandross, and she immediately told me he was gay.
Ohhhhhh, she just knew. If she did, many other women like her knew, wishing the best of memories of your mom🙏🏿
My late father went on a date to a Luther concert and told me he had front row seats and Luther was staring at him while he was singing on stage and definitely said he was gay.
She's gay😂😂😂😂
@@DJWOLFLIVE😂 wow!
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When Clive Davis day comes, i can only hope he ask God for Forgiveness. So many gone, yet, Clive is still here.weird. nice video.
Christianity is a home for the. Sickening 🤢
How come no mention of CHANGE???
No one sounds like Luther ❤
PLEEEASE stop saying "here's where it gets juicy" please lol
I believe it was an AI doing the story.
😂
This BS. Been going on for decades. Disgrace. Turn off from that industry. SMH
Yes we Black people need to make them broke,Black singers,actors,actresses, sports people no music ,no acting no sports for 1 year..sit your asses down.
I can't believe that Mimi said that it was intimidating standing next to Luther vandross when they were making their duet together wow Mariah Carey said that 💄💘💞🪅
She wasn't saying it in a bad way!!!
I didn’t hear Barry say anything about Luther saying away from Clive Davis.
THIS MAN CALLED CLIVE DAVIS HAS REALLY DESTROYED MANY BLACK ARTIST IN NAME SIGNING. THAT MAN NEEDS TO BE VISITED PERIOD.
That's the agenda to destroy Melanin ppl and their Musical power .....
Anyone who didn't know Luther and Clive were gay just wasnt paying attention. Now to the important stuff. The first time I heard Luther sing was in the eighties when he dropped "Never Too Much" That voice was pure velvet gold. May God rest his soul and let us thank him for all his great music. Rest in peace Luther! 🙏🏻❤️🕊️
what I think is, and this is where it gets juicy.....
Your voice is missed, Luther. RIP, brother.
Luther was straight until he got with clive...its all makes sense.Trauma can cause stress eating...RIP Barry and Luther..
I loved & still love Barry White's music 🎶🎶🎶
"Here is where it gets juicy"...😂
Absolutely loved Barry White, smart guy too having his own label, wasn't corrupted by other sources it seems. His music will still be around for a long time to come
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Barry. Was. The. Best.....
Amazing but a jerk! My uncle was his music director and many others Benjamin Wright composer!
His. Music 🎶🎵🎶🎵. Not. The. Man. Action. Just. His. 🎶. Music.....
🙏🏽🙏🏽🎯🎯🎯 a legend that is truly missed thank you for sharing your talent with the world🙏🏽🙏🏽
So so many of them,,it breaks your heart..when you know they were all involved with that scumbag man..