Thank you for creating How to Beatgrid Track video. Very detailed video, very well explained and informative. I have been searching for video how to Beatgrid Track many months . Your video is way better than many other TH-cam videos. Subscribed your channel and Like. Looking forward for more videos from Digital DJ Tips. Thank you.
Just got back into DJing after nearly 10 years and upgraded from CDJ 800s mk1 to xdj-xz and rekordbox. What a foreign program to me, but this video helped me figure out how to change the best grid in the middle of a song with a variable tempo! Loving all the helpful videos for noobs like me. Thank you!
I have rekordbox and the one reason I don't use it is because of the beat grids..Thank you for showing me the correct way of using the beat grid controls. I might use rekordbox box more now.
Can you elaborate on this button? 8:12 I mainly deal with recordings that are not perfectly on time. It is a problem because I cannot beat match, well I can beat match but the song literally speeds or slows down.
One question, im not sure if this can be done in performance mode ? After altering the beatgrid in export mode and you move to performance mode it usually gets back to earlier state. How to correct this? Thanks.
I have experienced your issue, too. Once back in performance mode the beatgrid seems to be not edited at all. However, the changes made in export mode just don't seem to appear visually in performance mode. Once you eject the track there and load it again, the beatgrid now is like you edited it in export mode :)
This was really helpful as I am really new to this. My one question over time I’m sure I’ll build up a library of tracks. Do I have to sort the grid out on every track in my library? As well as hot cues, it look very time consuming. Is there quicker ways?
No, but if you get into the habit of doing it whenever you add new tracks, you can treat it as part of getting to know your music, which is of course an essential task for DJs.
So when I adjust the beat grid for all tunes in my rekordbox and put them on a usb, I can then stick the usb in a CDJ3000 and the changes I made are still intact? I just manually edited the beat grid of a song on 1 laptop, and loaded it in another laptop, but the changes were not saved, so it seems like the changes you make are device specific. I'm wondering if this is also the case when I use a deck with usb input
The beatgrids stay in your Rekordbox library database on your DJ laptop, so you cannot take the MP3 and load it on another piece of DJ software an expect the beatgrid to be there. That said, when you export to USB to play on CDJs, Rekordbox also exports the beatgrids etc for that track, so in that case, yes they will be there.
If I fix the grid on the fly using xdj700(using the knob selecta on the device) will this be saved on my stick or I have to do it in Rekordbox if I want it saved once adjusted?
If you change the BpM in the “grid” section, that is what affects the actual track, and it will change automatically. The BpM that displays in the “collection” is strictly a label, (it does not affect the actual speed) and you have to change it manually.
I'm facing situations in which I adjust the grid to the first beat of the track, but at the drop the grid does not stick to the beat, although the bpm is correct. Any idea of what is happening? I know that producers usally dont stack the kick with other percussion element, even if both are meant to sound together (just a slight difference between the kick and the other percussion, pretty much unnoticeable when the track is being played alone). So usually the drop's transient for each track differs, and by using the SYNC button the tracks do not sound syncronized. I have ajusted the beatgrid of my tracks more than once: taking the transient of the drop beat as a reference, or using the peak of the drop's kick. Anyway, the problem insists: or the beatgrid is adjusted to the drop's kick, and the it's off the intro's kick, or the beatgrid is adjusted to the intro's kick and get's off in the drop's kick. Of course, that issue is perceived when mixing and trying to beatmatch. (I know that this is a great opportunity of refining the by ear beatmatching, and this issue can make this debate arise). Any clue on what it's happening? Anyone would like to share how they approach this? Thanks!
With modern electronic music this shouldn't happen, with older music or music ripped from vinyl it does, and you need to use flexible beatgridding by adding extra markers to "pull" the beats in line throughout the track (all software except Traktor can do that).
Your Analyze setting may be the issue. Dynamic mode creates changing beat grids to accommodate tempo shifts in case the track has live instruments, multiple timing or actual BPM changes. Normal Analyze grids stay the same through the track
I'm pretty sure older versions of rekordbox allowed for custom placement of the red marker without it locking into a 4/4 time signature, to the point where you could have multiple red-markers in a row! lol But now I have to use the iOS app just to be able to do that (in cases of short 3/3 breaks, or phase-shifts caused by drum-fills, breaks, or any number of other reasons). It's a hassle.
Just want to confirm something because I started out on Serato. Serato has it's own set of issues the main one being that it is not mainstream for standalone CDJs used by pros. However, their beat grid editor and analyzer is actually simple to use and works pretty well with AI built in or whatever. Most likely I just have to play around with the editor. However my question is, Serato as adjust and slip. Adjust like expands or contracts the grid based on position whereas slip moves the entire grid. The main thing is if you are on beat 1 it will expand or contract the whole grid but if you are in a different section of the song it will expand or contract only in that area. Is this feature like this and basically that shift is like slip on Serato and expand/contract is like adjust on Serato?
Hi, is there a way to display the beat count until the next hot cue? Not the memory cue. It's the hot cues that make sense to me while playing and which I need to pay attention to
Hi, Thanks for the video . My genre of music is Soul, Motown, Funk and Disco. You already know about the problem with beatgrid. In serato if you do the fixe as you propose on your video with Rekorbox , it will make a distorsion to the sound when you listening to it where there's more major difference between the BPM (because it's not constant). So my question is, if it's do the same on Rekorbox when you Edit the song ? Thanks and advance for your time.
I think the beatgridding on Serato is very good. It works in a similar way on Rekordbox, so if you do not like what you hear in Serato, you may not like what you hear in Rekordbox either! I’d say give it a go and find out for yourself.
Nobody has been able to answer this for me, what if you want to add additional beats like a song that changes from 4/4 timing just for like an extra 2 beats for a drum fill before going back into 4/4 timing. It doesn't seem like Rekordbox is smart enough to let you add your own beatgrid markers into the song it just rigidly follows 4/4. HELP!
No, because that would imply you want the playing song to "correct" itself back to the first beat of the bar, meaning it would effectively have to jump 2 beats or speed up. Just disregard the bar markers from that point on in those songs - the beat markers are of course still going to be correct.
It's only 4/4 right now, but if you want to dig deeper and do some configuration changes, it's possible. forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360025613991-Change-Beat-Grid-Time-Signature
I have not noticed any bugs. No DJ software makes perfect beat grids 100% of the time. Rekordbox is correct at least 95% of the time with modern songs (in my experience). Making little adjustments is easy. Rekordbox does an average job with original versions of old disco and funk and rock songs. But same is true with Serato, Traktor, etc.
The more i try to get involved with Rekordbox, more it seems like its not fully ready. So are we expected to adjust all 3-4k files on your SSD.. Madness
"how to beatgrid tracks in rekorbox" and you give a ridiculously long intro about how to understand common time. Then when we get to the solution, you overexplained a basic idea. Please take as advice to simply just get to the point.
I'm just learning to dj and this is a game changer for all those tracks that are just off a bit
Nice one :)
finally! we have a beat grid tutorial for Rekordbox...
:D
Thank you for creating How to Beatgrid Track video. Very detailed video, very well explained and informative. I have been searching for video how to Beatgrid Track many months . Your video is way better than many other TH-cam videos. Subscribed your channel and Like. Looking forward for more videos from Digital DJ Tips. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Just got back into DJing after nearly 10 years and upgraded from CDJ 800s mk1 to xdj-xz and rekordbox. What a foreign program to me, but this video helped me figure out how to change the best grid in the middle of a song with a variable tempo! Loving all the helpful videos for noobs like me. Thank you!
No problem! Glad to help
I started 35 years ago, getting backnin the game, thanks for the quick tips
No problem!😌
For some reason when I play in performance mode it doesn’t fix it. Only in export mode is fine. Thanks for your help
I dont use Rekordbox but I just clicked & like because you guys are awesome
Amazing, cheers :)
Good vid, very helpful !
Thanks
No problem John!
I have rekordbox and the one reason I don't use it is because of the beat grids..Thank you for showing me the correct way of using the beat grid controls. I might use rekordbox box more now.
Awesome, happy to help!
What other software can you use with Pioneer hardware?
@@tunesyouneed-freshmixeswee1140 Some with Serato, but you will have to check which ones.
Bro this is a massive help
Glad to help
Can you elaborate on this button? 8:12 I mainly deal with recordings that are not perfectly on time. It is a problem because I cannot beat match, well I can beat match but the song literally speeds or slows down.
Great tutorial
Thanks a lot!
That was really good and digestible for a beginner like me ... Shall practice. Thank you :)
Awesome, glad to hear it
Will it automatically save the new positioning of the beat grid on the specific track once you have edited it?
Yes
That's what I wanted to hear
appreciate it thank you !
No problem!
One question, im not sure if this can be done in performance mode ? After altering the beatgrid in export mode and you move to performance mode it usually gets back to earlier state. How to correct this? Thanks.
This can be done in Performance Mode too - I haven't had an issue with edited beatgrids in Performance Mode :)
I have experienced your issue, too. Once back in performance mode the beatgrid seems to be not edited at all. However, the changes made in export mode just don't seem to appear visually in performance mode. Once you eject the track there and load it again, the beatgrid now is like you edited it in export mode :)
@@digitaldjtips I have exactly the same trouble!
@@milaheavenly8415 Lock the grid after you adjust it.
Great video! Thank you so much! :)
you're welcome
This was really helpful as I am really new to this.
My one question over time I’m sure I’ll build up a library of tracks.
Do I have to sort the grid out on every track in my library?
As well as hot cues, it look very time consuming. Is there quicker ways?
No, but if you get into the habit of doing it whenever you add new tracks, you can treat it as part of getting to know your music, which is of course an essential task for DJs.
Can this be done on the fly in performance mode? I have found a few tracks that the beat is not in sync with the grid. I use tidal.
You can shift the grid I believe but nothing more
@digitaldjtips thank you for responding. Would you happen to know how to do this? Any video that covers it?
So when I adjust the beat grid for all tunes in my rekordbox and put them on a usb, I can then stick the usb in a CDJ3000 and the changes I made are still intact? I just manually edited the beat grid of a song on 1 laptop, and loaded it in another laptop, but the changes were not saved, so it seems like the changes you make are device specific. I'm wondering if this is also the case when I use a deck with usb input
The beatgrids stay in your Rekordbox library database on your DJ laptop, so you cannot take the MP3 and load it on another piece of DJ software an expect the beatgrid to be there. That said, when you export to USB to play on CDJs, Rekordbox also exports the beatgrids etc for that track, so in that case, yes they will be there.
@@digitaldjtips Yes I tested it and it works on CDJ, thanks :)
Big thanks mate! 🙌
You're welcome
Nice video. You teach some good stuff
Thanks 😎
This definitely helped, 🙏
Glad to hear that
If I fix the grid on the fly using xdj700(using the knob selecta on the device) will this be saved on my stick or I have to do it in Rekordbox if I want it saved once adjusted?
Should go back to your Rekordbox software as long as you plug the USB back into the laptop afterward and re-sync.
Wt if we edit and export it, does it show the fixed version on cdjs
Yes, CDJs will show your edited version.
thank you! The next song is on beat but it still sounded off lol
So I had a show and I didn’t adjust the beat grid and some tracks played double time or halved time. Do I set all my beat grids to 75 or 140?
Whichever you choose, being consistent is the key thing.
Thanks guys :)
No problem!
Thx!
No problem!
After you half( or double ) the tempo how do you save it? The bmp is changed in the player but it's not changed in the collection.
Lock the grid after you adjust it.
If you change the BpM in the “grid” section, that is what affects the actual track, and it will change automatically.
The BpM that displays in the “collection” is strictly a label, (it does not affect the actual speed) and you have to change it manually.
I'm facing situations in which I adjust the grid to the first beat of the track, but at the drop the grid does not stick to the beat, although the bpm is correct. Any idea of what is happening? I know that producers usally dont stack the kick with other percussion element, even if both are meant to sound together (just a slight difference between the kick and the other percussion, pretty much unnoticeable when the track is being played alone). So usually the drop's transient for each track differs, and by using the SYNC button the tracks do not sound syncronized. I have ajusted the beatgrid of my tracks more than once: taking the transient of the drop beat as a reference, or using the peak of the drop's kick. Anyway, the problem insists: or the beatgrid is adjusted to the drop's kick, and the it's off the intro's kick, or the beatgrid is adjusted to the intro's kick and get's off in the drop's kick. Of course, that issue is perceived when mixing and trying to beatmatch. (I know that this is a great opportunity of refining the by ear beatmatching, and this issue can make this debate arise). Any clue on what it's happening? Anyone would like to share how they approach this? Thanks!
With modern electronic music this shouldn't happen, with older music or music ripped from vinyl it does, and you need to use flexible beatgridding by adding extra markers to "pull" the beats in line throughout the track (all software except Traktor can do that).
same problem here with modern songs
Your Analyze setting may be the issue. Dynamic mode creates changing beat grids to accommodate tempo shifts in case the track has live instruments, multiple timing or actual BPM changes. Normal Analyze grids stay the same through the track
hi dear
how can i get backwardloop in rekordbox6 with my DDJ400?
I'm pretty sure older versions of rekordbox allowed for custom placement of the red marker without it locking into a 4/4 time signature, to the point where you could have multiple red-markers in a row! lol But now I have to use the iOS app just to be able to do that (in cases of short 3/3 breaks, or phase-shifts caused by drum-fills, breaks, or any number of other reasons). It's a hassle.
Haven't used the iOS app in a while! Have there been any new updates? :)
Digital DJ Tips unfortunately not, but that might be okay. Otherwise, they might make the red marker restriction behave like the pc version.
Just want to confirm something because I started out on Serato. Serato has it's own set of issues the main one being that it is not mainstream for standalone CDJs used by pros. However, their beat grid editor and analyzer is actually simple to use and works pretty well with AI built in or whatever. Most likely I just have to play around with the editor. However my question is, Serato as adjust and slip. Adjust like expands or contracts the grid based on position whereas slip moves the entire grid. The main thing is if you are on beat 1 it will expand or contract the whole grid but if you are in a different section of the song it will expand or contract only in that area. Is this feature like this and basically that shift is like slip on Serato and expand/contract is like adjust on Serato?
You can achieve the same results on Rekordbox. The controls are labelled slightly differently, but the principle is the same.
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Hi, is there a way to display the beat count until the next hot cue? Not the memory cue. It's the hot cues that make sense to me while playing and which I need to pay attention to
not possible unfortunately. but it makes total sense
Which version of rekordbox are you using?
No idea specifically, what's the issue? :)
Hi,
Thanks for the video .
My genre of music is Soul, Motown, Funk and Disco.
You already know about the problem with beatgrid. In serato if you do the fixe as you propose on your video with Rekorbox , it will make a distorsion to the sound when you listening to it where there's more major difference between the BPM (because it's not constant). So my question is, if it's do the same on Rekorbox when you Edit the song ?
Thanks and advance for your time.
I think the beatgridding on Serato is very good. It works in a similar way on Rekordbox, so if you do not like what you hear in Serato, you may not like what you hear in Rekordbox either! I’d say give it a go and find out for yourself.
It looks like beat grids cant be adjusted for Tidal tracks.
thank you so much.谢谢
No problem!
I have some tunes that are best gridded fine at the start of the tune but get to one beat out half way I'm. Help!
What kind of tunes are they? (live drummer vs drum machine) which mode did you analyse them in?
@@digitaldjtips it's techno. I think I may have analyzed out of their bpm range. Gonna give it a go anyway cheers
Yes that's another option, if it's getting it wrong by halving/doubling the bpm then the range might be the culprit
@@digitaldjtips yes it's solved it thank you!!
Awesome :)
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for, thanks 😊
No problem!
Thanks for this it’s really helped 👌👌
Nobody has been able to answer this for me, what if you want to add additional beats like a song that changes from 4/4 timing just for like an extra 2 beats for a drum fill before going back into 4/4 timing. It doesn't seem like Rekordbox is smart enough to let you add your own beatgrid markers into the song it just rigidly follows 4/4. HELP!
No, because that would imply you want the playing song to "correct" itself back to the first beat of the bar, meaning it would effectively have to jump 2 beats or speed up. Just disregard the bar markers from that point on in those songs - the beat markers are of course still going to be correct.
Why do you have so few original songs in you record pool? You seem to have a lot of remixes but only few original ones....
You've lost us there, we don't have a record pool (we're a DJ school) and this video isn't about a record pool either :)
Noticing the kpop playlist. Do you spin kpop? I thought I was the only one!
Yeah I do! It's big here :)
Digital DJ Tips where’s that?
Traktor is way better to sync the beat and using the grid it goes father inside the track more than rekordbox
No dynamic analysis though
How to adjust tracks in ¾ measures?
Not sure what you mean, you mean tracks in 3/4 time?
Digital DJ Tips like a waltz: 1-2-3, 1-2-3 instead of 1-2-3-4
It's only 4/4 right now, but if you want to dig deeper and do some configuration changes, it's possible. forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360025613991-Change-Beat-Grid-Time-Signature
Rekordbox box has a bug concerning auto beat grids.
I have not noticed any bugs. No DJ software makes perfect beat grids 100% of the time. Rekordbox is correct at least 95% of the time with modern songs (in my experience). Making little adjustments is easy. Rekordbox does an average job with original versions of old disco and funk and rock songs. But same is true with Serato, Traktor, etc.
Can you make video about what frquency range is
We'll consider it!
Doubling the times of hip hop tracks let’s you easily mix them with lots of dubstep and hip hop tracks! Something to think about.
I've been makin music for awhile but i just started djing. My question is what is the best set of turntables 4 a phone setup. I do not own a laptop?
Do you want turntables or a controller?
I dont have a controller...
@@IamS4t4N algoriddim djay pro. Lots of fun, costs £4.99 a month.
can't hear the metronome
The more i try to get involved with Rekordbox, more it seems like its not fully ready. So are we expected to adjust all 3-4k files on your SSD.. Madness
It does pretty well with most beatgrids and even has a dynamic mode for beatgridding to help with non-quantised tracks
Not a single thing explained fully, this video was on beat grid which you dint address properly.
Sorry it didn't help you James.
Rekordbox got about a 50% correct beatgrid placement rate, shits horrendous
🤙🤙🤙🤙
Thanks for watching
somehow it doesn't work for me
What bit doesn't work? :)
@@digitaldjtips nothing works
"how to beatgrid tracks in rekorbox" and you give a ridiculously long intro about how to understand common time. Then when we get to the solution, you overexplained a basic idea. Please take as advice to simply just get to the point.
Thanks for the feedback Kid of Space