Here you go! Content Critters Small beast, unaligned Armor Class: 12 Hit Points: 10 (3d6) Speed: 30 ft. STR DEX CON INT WIS CHA 4 (-3) 14 (+2) 10 (+0) 2 (-4) 10 (+0) 4 (-3) Skills: Perception +2 Senses: passive Perception 12 Languages: - Challenge: 1/4 (50 XP) Traits Pack Tactics The Content Critter has advantage on an attack roll against a creature if at least one of the Content Critter's allies is within 5 feet of the creature and the ally isn’t incapacitated. Keen Hearing and Smell The Content Critter has advantage on Wisdom (Perception) checks that rely on hearing or smell. Actions Bite Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (1d4 + 2) piercing damage. Scratch Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (1d4 + 2) slashing damage. Content Creator (1/day) The Content Critter can create a 10-foot radius area of bright light as a bonus action. Every creature within the area must make a Wisdom saving throw (DC 10). On a failed save, the creature is charmed by the Content Critter for 1 minute. While charmed, the creature must use its turn to move towards the Content Critter's position or to take the Dash or Disengage action, if it cannot move closer. A creature can repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns, ending the effect on itself on a success.
Remember, Microsoft said that Windows 10 was the last edition of Windows there would ever be, all you will get are updates, with two major upgrades each year. We all saw how that worked out.
What do you expect from the same people who brought you that lie? But look on the bright side. You will own your D&D materials like you own your Microsoft Office materials.
To be more accurate, they had a technical issue that delayed their presentation so to avoid "dead air" they opened up to accept questions from the content creators. And boy did that backfire beautifully.
Everything they've done to "fix the problem" has only made things worse! You'd think SOMEONE in a multi-BILLION dollar company would realize that they just need to STOP trying to "fix" the problems, most people have gone right on back to D&D anyway, sadly! I don't know what the hell she's seen on Bob World Builder's Channel to make her think he's stopped with 5E, he's done a FEW videos about other games but still is pumping out that D&D content as if nothing has changed. Perhaps I missed something and she wasn't trying to imply that Bob had changed his content. DM Lair(Is it singular or possessive DM?) has only RECENTLY started to do videos that aren't D&D related, though it could just be a one off for him too!
@@JacksonOwex I just found my way here here from the DM Lair video that said he's consciously moving away from D&D in favour of Pathfinder and details his reasons why: th-cam.com/video/H9rEJiAFXY4/w-d-xo.html P.S. It's "The DM Lair".
@@JacksonOwex ideological stances are all well and good but money is money. Also as third-party you’re not necessarily giving WOTC money in fact, you’re definitely not unless you are on DMsguild
I get the feeling like Wizards wants to get into the mobile game realm of nickle and diming you for a ton of stuff you can only keep using if you keep using thier software. It was ok with ttrpg because we could use our set pieces and minis however wanted to, make up our own, whatever. Now it'd be a walled garden where everything costs extra all of the time.
Just watch the physical book releases become rarer and rarer, as all the player-facing content gets released as D&D Beyond-exclusive DLC. Maybe we'll get a "Tasha's Cauldron of Everything Else" physical compendium eventually, but book releases will go from quarterly, to yearly, before we know what's hit us. The quality won't improve, cuz they'll still be rushing out content online, but we'll just get less books. I'd bet money on this.
@@nowayjosedaniel no it’s not. The digitization aside, the play is inherently different. A video game doesn’t let you not-quite play by its rules for the sake of rule of cool. Or fail to let you do what’s in the rules cause the DM has a preference against that.
@@nowayjosedaniel but they’ve already seen with pissing off the main niche audience gets them games gotta sell. Either way they won’t be trying to convert a vtt into a video game.
The CEO actually said so. She is a fan of monetizing the game in the same way video games are monetized. She is a terrible leader. She doesn’t understand the product or community.
My theory is that someone understands the power that "5e" has on the web. It's literal shorthand on the internet, and giving that up gives up some kind of virtual real estate that few companies have access to. It's really smart not to want to give up "5e".
So was 3e, in its day. 3.5 was pretty well accepted, but 4e... That was what Hasbro/WotC are trying all over again. Because all the people who know better have retired.
It is. As "5e" has become a common Brand and thus looses Protection by Law even more - which they wanted to counteract with that ridiculous "newOGL". "ONE D&D" is burned beyond recognition as "Unifying" did not go well - so now a better approach, a more lenient and casual - is demanded - "Just D&D". Just D&D will be then Brand to the "5e" as "3.5" is to many others. If they just lable their Books "5e compatible" it is a free Ad Slogan coming along the Rebranding they did - and it changed a lot, and we all can parttake in shaping that Future with hate and disdain or with careful trust and covered creidit we give - as we ought to be the "Heroes" here and not the "Villians" - and Wizzard is the King, so to speak.
@@nowayjosedaniel You can basically type any string of words into google while including "5e" and the results will prioritize trying to find D&D content.
You are the highest quality example of the "person unreasonably emphatic next to a microphone" genre I have come across and I look forward to your future D&D focused rants. Subscribed!
The change from "ONE D&D" to "Just D&D" is a bait and switch, IMO. They wanted to use the OGL change to monopolize their game. They got caught. They were likely going to use the new edition to promote their monopoly and VTT and create their walled garden with Whales they could milk for the coming decade. But since they flopped, they now are pretending that ONE D&D wasn't anything more than a rules update. They will wait a few years, draft up a license similar to the 4e GSL (since they can't do the OGL anymore, and the ORC is going to be a stable replacement anyway), then start releasing "D&D Premium" as a new edition ONLY available to digital subscribers (Why pay for print when you can replicate PDFs for free?), and have this truly new edition, which will probably look more like 4e than 5e (but will "feel" evolved from 5e) made under the stringent new license they make. Which will probably also have clauses for not sharing PDFs, if they can get away with it...
100% this. It also means they can stop putting much effort into it (since it isn't going to earn them lots of money), and instead focus secretly on their new evil plan. And trust me, with their new hires such as the former Microsoft CEO, they have evil plans. The first of which will be insane microtransactions associated with their VTT.
They really won’t though. Not because of any sudden growth of conscience, but pure pragmatism. What you describe is sticking your hand back in the flame after 2nd degree burns. It won’t work and they actually know that now. Any new license will simply trigger this again no matter what name it falls under. Creative Commons was a self-crippling to prove they couldn’t do what you just described Also they won’t make it like 4e because 4e was their biggest flop.
@kagato23 WotC has made multiple "flops" in business despite proof that these moves are unsuccessful. Proof of that is 4e directly. 4e was made to monopolize D&D and create a VTT that would ultimately make WotC the premiere TTRPG. In addition, in doing so, they created the GSL in the hopes that it would make obsolete the OGL 1.0a The result was that 4e pushed extant fans away to their biggest competitor, which used the OGL 1.0a to maintain the product line of WotC's most successful edition, 3.5 So what did WotC just try to do? Monopolize D&D and make it the premiere TTRPG that functions simultaneous to a VTT. They also tried to remove their previous mistake of leaving the OGL available for competitors to use by trying to effectively kill it. You say that they used the CC license as a pragmatic move to show good will. I say they used the CC to attain their goal, and 5e was a sacrifice to do exactly what they intended all along: kill the OGL. Now that the OGL is no longer in primary use, aka effectively defunct, they can determine to withhold FUTURE content from being placed under the CC in order to make it impossible for competitors to monetize, and they have been released from the obligation to use the OGL anymore. What's more is that they have a big sugar daddy (Hasbro) to pay to scoop up creators that used to work for their primary competitors. Which foolishly published under the OGL, and will also publish under the ORC, so WotC is free to "borrow" creativity from their competition... Which is what they intended to do with their OGL "update" anyway. Yes, this move is pragmatic. It is cheaper to use a CC because they don't have to hire lawyers to resolve any document issues, they get exactly what they want anyway (the OGL removed by default of using the CC), they are free now to use a GSL in future content without concern, they still get to steal competitors work if they want... WotC didn't stop making mistakes. They are continuing to make the same ones they have always made. They are just doing so more easily, and are enabled by circumstance. WotC's dream was content akin to 4e. Not mechanics wise, but based on the business model of it. And they will step on as many rakes as they need to to repeat their mistake and attain their goal. This is the second time, at least, that they have stepped on a rake to repeat history, and arguably the 4th time if you count the mistakes made in MtG land...
@@michaelgorham2100 less goodwill and more the only move available with the realization that 0 trust existed for any new version even if all it did was update terms. WOTC tried with 4e. Hasbro tried with 5e. Different management needing to learn the same lesson. Shareholders might be the god who needs appeasement but the shareholders don’t like it when the banks are saying the company’s making bad decisions with their IPs. And feedback where 86% dissatisfaction with a boycott attached was in the LEAST objected to change is a fairly clear picture painter. Any content they produce not using the license will immediately be red flagged, by those like you who are sure they will do it. They won’t do it because they can’t. They have run a successful business for the most part. They aren’t idiots despite making idiot moves recently, at least collectively. They didn’t need to “sacrificed the old OGL to not release stuff under it anyway? So not sure how any of this would be strategy. They just tried to do that and we are here. I struggle to see how they failed to do this as a strategy to fail to do it. Maybe if they leaned into “6.0 new rules” but they have now made a point of saying it’s a 5e revision. Empasizing they will still use their “sacrificed” system makes it much harder and they many reasons not to do that if your read is accurate. The OGL 1.0a always allowed for Wizards to use other content put under their license as their own. They even included acknowledgment of that in the 2014 FAQ. Whatever else you want to say, we can’t say they abused it yet. As to paying money to scoop up competitors, okay? That’s just good business? Why wouldn’t they want to acquire proven talent for themselves? They still need lawyers, even when your position in a document issue is rock solid, if you go to court somebody has to be there for you. The problem is this isn’t rakes anymore. They tried, and sure if they could get their goal they’d have done so, but the rakes became a thorny hedge and the hedge is on perpetual fire. They might look for a way around it (probably by monetizing the VTT as much as they can and slapping proprietary on virtually anything you put in there, making it a Dmsguild where anything on there needs be exclusive, none of this is saying I trust them) but they won’t try to go through it.
It's not like Hasbro would set up an "open" marketplace, get third-party authors dependent upon it as a revenue stream and then change the terms to something more in line with what they wanted in the first place, would they?
I honestly believe they won’t based on simple pragmatism. The attempt to change failed. The attempt to change comparatively little failed because they lost all trust. They put it in creative comments as a offering from being defeated. They can’t change it now because the cc license means the creators can outright ignore it now. There is no take back. They’d have to make an entirely new system which they also backpedaled on for the same lack of trust.
Yeah it's amazing she seems to know exactly how it went even though she wasnt there 🙄 Negative videos garner more views than positive. Shes selling you garbage and you're eating it up. Be better.
@@rickbruner5525 I'm not. D&D has been a part of my life for over 30 years now. I dont throw that away so easily. Plus these videos are pure conjecture and others have come out with first hand experience that completely debunks all this bs. She sounds like a jaded ex girlfriend and I find it annoying. What exactly did WotC ACTUALLY DO to you? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. In fact they almost made a mistake and ended up giving us more than we anticipated. So what's to be all pissy about exactly? Everything is going into creative commons so it's not as if they can even try it again so again I ask, what exactly did they do?
Been playing a fusion of v. 1 -5e for years with my group.. we don't ever NEED to buy anything.. most of it comes from us and just the core books of most editions. People should remember DND is only supposed to be a framework for a collective exercise in problem solving and imagination. You can 100% play with a full custom rule set. Never needed any books we just "Thought" we did. A friend of mine went to college with Gary, my friends character is known as Salem (Druid). Gary asked him one day(long ago),"Are you a wizard or a druid?" To which my dear friend replied I think I'd like to be a druid. They spoke that day about high fantasy together and enjoyed storytelling... There were no dice only conversation. This friend of mine played a campaign from 1975~ until 2016 RIP friend. He taught many of us on V1 as this was the only one he cared to DM with. The best thing about V1 even with many of the appendices and extra books is that it's always presented itself as a guide, a "Suggestion". DMs and players need to collectively get back to the roots. Pick or create a set of rules you all agree on per each group and have fun, make experiences and memories. DnD is the most inexpensive game I own, I can play with only a 20sided and 2 d10 no books necessary. The framework for RPGs is there, explore it. Cheers, thanks for content as always~
I totally agree. Takes like this day in day our are really getting exhausting. Sadly, chucking hand grenades inspires more interaction and traffic than simply informing ppl. The rate at which pplz channels started to get noticed and increased in subs wasn't lost on reaction farming style channels.
Don't think they will do that. Negativity sells and that's all they've been doing since the OGL fiasco. Although Social Blade does say their views are dwindling and they haven't had a video hit 100k since the OGL discourse. Honestly hope channels like this go the way of the dinosaur. Its just tripe drama to get clicks.
@@nowayjosedaniel its click bait and negativity. you're just to strung up in it to see that. a lot of what you and this channel is saying sounds like " DnD too popular now gerrrr play other game!" comes off as very " you cant like that and you should feel bad for liking it"
@@nowayjosedaniel More reason to promote other alternatives to D&D, highlight their differences and avoid oversaturation of drama channels that cover the TTRPG industry.
@@tiamatspawn4597 yeah but negativity can only take you so far in results. It also damage your mental health, limiting your ability to enjoy positive yhing outside your work and getting you trapped in a viciously cirvle of hate and cinicism. I am not asking to stop covering news, but a variety of content would be welcomed.
You noticed WotC's legerdemain did you. Glad someone did, they also said the only way to get hardcopy books going forward would be if you signed up for DnDBeyond. While we are whinging on about coporate control of market places and about WizBro's ham handed machinations, what about the near monopoly of OneBookShelf hmm... Good video Discourse, thanks for keeping us informed!
Once Chris Cox and the Tobacco Industry lady leave, some new executive will come in and want to leave their mark. Which will mean a new edition. This ALWAYS happens with live services.
Then we should make it clear what we want and how the new one can cvontribute, leave his mark and do not harm rather than enrich the whole Shebang - like Gamers should do, right? But hey, New Players are always Spotlighthoggers, lets hate our GM for the new Player he might bring one day - that sure is healthy, right?
Im not worried about third parties going to D&D Beyond, theres enough players in the world who know how to buy books from other storefronts, My main fear is players becoming over reliant on D&D beyond. Its literally the only way I keep track of D&D spells.
I have several apps on my phone for character sheets and spells but it doesn't look like the guy who made it has kept up with it. As I have not seen anything from Tasha's or later for it. He only gave basics for making your own stuff so kinda time consuming to input new information. As for beyond I like it but now that WotC has it I'm more concerned about its usability for anything not "Official WotC" mainly because I don't want to manually input a subclass Feat or Item and find out WotC claimed it as their own.
@@nickm9102 I imagine he hasn't updated it because he doesn't have permission from WotC to do so and he needs that for legal reasons. It'd be cool to make a simple 'make your own in my app' option where you could just fill in everything from the books you own. It'd take a little work, but WotC never needs to know or care. HE didn't publish their works, THEY did.
Well, It seems to me that the new VTT is in beta/pre-beta in terms of development so flexibility and customizability would be basically nil much like prerelease games that people buy and test. I am glad that the creators were holding their feet to the fire though. Edit Really got a laugh out of the female version of Ozzy princess of darkness as the Dr. evil of the Hasbro Corp lol.
I'm still gonna call it D&D 6th edition for 3 reasons. 1, it's been almost 10 years since 5th came out, as opposed to the time between 3 to 3.5. 2, yes the 2014 PHB will still be "relevant" but at the same time they have changed too much. 3, 3.5 was a lot of fixing really broken things like nerfing spells like haste and time stop.
Wizards will never run out of content for this edition, just look at how they have been putting content for it so far. Each book simply recycles (often with changes) content from other books. This is Wizard's plan for dnd going forward. They will never run out of content, because they can always just use old content to fill it! And if people like he old content, they will just like this new stuff more in an infinite feedback loop of money. . . I mean love!
I'm just a Grognard, but I've seen the game I love get destroyed as it's popularity gets bigger. Started as a group of people who got made fun of for playing a game that we loved. Then, those people want in on it and decide to completely ruin it. Bring back my half-elf fighting evil orcs. Stop bringing your real life into the fantasy story. Leave it at the door.
Have you ever considered that you never leave your real life? Nor does anyone? You just don't have anything in D&D that would pull you out of character and make you think about your own life experiences, and think that having such things is wrong somehow?
I really need the Pleasure Prison cover as a wall sized postern now. can you vector that up so I can get it printed as a 4 ' x 7' poster? That way I can cover the front door of my gaming room with it so my players know where they are going. And, what to expect once there.
I am a Forever GM and I am in the process of transitioning from 5e to Pathfinder 2e. Third party creators make content that has a tendency to fix the bloated mess that is 5e that at least makes it playable. The OGL was the last straw with 5e, I'm out...
Pathfinder trades bloat for convolution. Which admittedly is great if your an older D&D edition fan, that was its point. But it’s definitely harder to learn and draw in new people. The real rub is without getting too complicated it fixes some 5e balance issues and could be converted but won’t cause even if the license allows it it’s still pathfinder and pathfinder already did it.
@@tripp4130 Golden Thrones: ICRPG, OSE, ShadowDark, D&D B/X, Low Fantasy Gaming, EZD6, Hyperboria. American Standards: Cthulhu Darkages, Savage Worlds, Deathbringer, DungeonWorld, Fantasy Age, Witcher, Toto Bidets: GURPs, HarnMaster, WHFRP, DCC
Please don't call it Advanced fifth edition. That's an insult to AD&D and I'm calling my improved 5th edition home ruleset that. I'd call WOTC version WOKE 5TH EDITION.
I'm still pretty convinced that they will be doing the service sooner with the move to beyond and that books will be released well after the rules are live on the subscription online services. I also wouldn't doubt all books will be "collector grade" and have a markup, so it drives folks to use the online versions and spend more money on microtransactions there.
Saying half races are inherently racist is basically saying interracial relationships are wrong/no longer going to be in the system... Which is ACTUALLY kinda racist lmao. Dude put his whole foot in his mouth with that one
The problem is not with the existence of mixed-race people, but with how they're described in DnD. "Half-elf" assumes that human is the default (otherwise we'd call them "half-elf half-human", but half-human part is ignored because humans are default). What is racist is the idea that some race is the "default" and others are some obscure edge cases. I belive *that* was what the WotC people meant, although I guess the wording was not perfect.
@@dzmitry_k so their solution is to have hard racial bonus mechanics locked to a specific race so that half race characters are not "actually" half but SOLELY one or the other... which is even more bio-essentialist and downright victorian eugenicist lmaooo
@@dzmitry_k Since when? I've always wondered about Half-orc Dwarves, and half-elf gnomes(though gnomes are kind of just half elf and half dwarf anyway). I never realized how simple minded the rest of the world was! But yeah, you keep letting WotC/Hasbro gaslight you into thinking they are just despicable pieces of crap!
@@JacksonOwex "Since when?" - this discourse is several decade long, if not longer. People have been criticising the concept of race in fantasy, and in DnD specifically, for decades. Maybe you ignored them, but really, there has been a lot of discourse around it for ages. And if you're talking about WotC, see what they actually said: "the half construction is inherently racist". The problem is *not* with mixed races, the problem is with the construction DnD is using to represent them. You're totally overblowing it.
@@JacksonOwex That you've "always wondered about half-orc Dwarves and half-elf gnomes" after some 50+ years of the game is *because* D&D has never covered them and "half-X" has always assumed the other half is human. IIRC, some sources even say that humans are the only race that can interbreed with others.
SO glad I just sold off the last of my 5e stuff. Indie games, whether their systems are crap or not, just feel like they have more heart to them than the corporate stuff.
as someone who owns D&D books from Dungeons and Dragons, Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 3.0, 3.5 and 5..0.. Hasborg is past due for a flaming death or monopoly breakup...
The sad part is that well, you're right about everything you mentioned yet it won't matter at all: They still got the movie and that is doing rather well, so they actually *can* afford to burn down a couple of 100k influencers if they play their cards right and capitalie on the movie.
@@MuRpHyKn0t It also doesn't make profit for WotC, just attention. It makes profit for Paramount (pretty sure it was Paramount) who paid WotC for a license to make such a movie.
@@Badjujubee Timing has little to do with it. I a world where D&D is no longer ostracized as much as it used to be(there ARE still people out there that will hate on it) and most people have at least heard about it you're not going to draw people from outside in with a movie! If people wanted to check out D&D, they HAVE, if they don't want to check out D&D, no movie is going to make them think "Oh my God this movie was amazing! Now I HAVE to go spend 100 dollars to play this game!"
Something about the half-race removal that some friends of mine pointed out... Teiflings. They are THE Half-Race and the most popular one. Sooo.. if they're doing away with them,. does that just make Teiflings full playable Devils?? Not too great on WotC's part if they're still fighting the whole 'Satanic Panic'. That'll go over well. 'Hey Billy what are you playing?' 'Oh you know, the literal spawn of satan.' '.. Oh.'
It's not that mixed parentage don't/won't exist. The term "half-XYZ" has racist connotations of some race being considered the 'default' or "normal" race. "Half-breed" was (and still is in some areas) common real world slur against people with mix parentage. People kind of need to slow down for 10min to understand what is actually going on & what the context is. But what I see a lot of is people falling in to some variation of 'their taking away this thing I like!' with out further examination. And I get it, a lot of people resist letting go of familiar things when the change is nuanced in its genesis & they have an strong emotional investment.
@@maeve615 With respect, you're talking rubbish. "Half-breed" hasn't even been considered an offensive term for very long (and still isn't, by most people who don't have a problem with human comingling or an ideological axe to grind), let alone a phrase that has long-standing use as a slur. There are other, much worse and much more common, much more specific slurs that were used for people of mixed ancestry in times and places where this was both common and viewed with disapproval. On the contrary, "half-breed" was seen as clinical or neutral language to the point where governments chose that as suitable phrasing for incorporation into the language of bills designed to promote the welfare of people of mixed ancestry, and some groups of people with mixed ancestry who wanted to advocate for their rights saw the term as fitting enough to use in the name of their organization, as when a group comprised of the children of indigenous Canadians and white settlers decided upon the name "Halfbreed Association of Northern Alberta" in 1932. It's almost as though the professor of language who originated the use of the term "half-elf" in fantasy knew more about the connotation of words than some rando at Wizards of the Coast did. Imagine that!
I thought that the title "One D&D" was some kind of inside joke, because THAT was the answer to the challenge that my fellow gamers would ask of a poser: "Yeah, I've played D&D before. I didn't think it was all that great, or all that difficult.." "Oh yeah? You played? But did you win..?! "Sure, yeah, I Won D&D.." "Oh, look fellas, he Won D&D.." And that's how we immediately knew he was a poser.. So when I saw the term "One D&D" used, I had to suspect the use of it was actually a joke.. Guess not.. Or maybe it's a big joke on corporate D&D executives that have never actually played the damn game.. Thanks for the "rant inside of a rant" content - I find it informative, insightful and amusing.
@@nowayjosedaniel unfortunately it IS that popular but I agree, I couldn’t make it past the first episode of campaign one because it was SOOO boring. Like, why would I want to watch other people that I don’t know play dnd??? Why wouldn’t I just go play it myself?
@@TheAchilles26 There is only anecdotal evidence of this. None of the information that we have points to a major increase in search engine traffic or sales for 5e around the time of Critical Role. In contrast, 5e's boom lines up very well with Stranger Things.
@@nowayjosedaniel Bob the Worldbuilder did some search engine research and there is no evidence of CR being significant from there, nor do the sales really line up temporally. Stranger Things appears (from very limited data) to have been the real major point of increased interest.
Did no-one catch that selling on their platform or marketplace, same difference will be using the same rules as DM's guild? This means you give up not only half the $ but they own the rights to it. Did I misunderstand this because I'd think everyone would be up in arms about Hasbro/WOTC taking your rights to your product, like in the first OGL "draft." Why isn't anyone fighting or mentioning this?
Most platforms like that already do demand exclusivity. What I worry about is that there will be a clause in the contracts to put your material on the site that says WotC is free to use ANY and ALL material published on their site WITHOUT knowledge or compensation to the person who actually created it. This get's WotC what they wanted with the "License back"(I think that's what it was called) clause or whatever they tried to get into the "draft" OGL. Though this time it's not completely disgusting, only mostly! People beware signing ANY contract, but ESPECIALLY ones that have anything to do with things related to WotC!
@@jamestaylor3805 So making a direct comparison isn't comprehension? Not sure what dictionary you use. Please focus on not being a troll. (Dang it, feeding the trolls again.)
That’s a pretty and flashy VTT, but I’ll stick to Foundry it has a lot more stuff I can customize and open to many different systems. All these new systems coming out need a VTT they can play on. D&D flubbing their base is so refreshing because of all these new options coming out, and opening new existing options.
Excellent! Hasbro/WotC plays to win. The losers will be the players. I thought there was no "winning" in D&D? Allowing the Hasbro/WotC corporation to control the narrative, is like that adversarial DM who can smite you with the "hand of god" or "falling rocks" whenever the player doesn't stick to that pre-written narrative. This is definitely a break-up point, people gotta go explore those other game systems - and not just Pathfinder. There's more to RPGs than medieval high fantasy swords and sorcery.
THANK YOU!!! I wish more people talked about the HUNDREDS of other games that exist but everyone is too Gods damned obsessed with D&D(thanks pop culture) to bother trying to learn ANY new games! It's always "I don't have the time" or "It's too hard" and other shit like that! If you had the time to play D&D you have time to learn a new system!
@@JacksonOwex For sure! And for that, they either miss out on one of those other gems, or they are forever stuck in d&d-land. Most games are learnable in under 30 minutes. Mastery, of course, will take more time. Even if they do want the swords and sorcery, there's other systems out there (that some may claim) do it even better. D&D is but the gateway. Perhaps, there's more RPG "casuals" out there than we realize. They're the ones inflating the numbers, and are the cause of Hasbro/WotC's salivation at potential earnings. Marketing brought them in, and these players are happy to flounder around in D&D, with no desire to try other game systems.
The people who still willingly continue to support Wizards of the Coast are now to be considered the scum of the Earth. I play DnD literally my entire life from the time I was a tiny teenager, And I mean that literally because I was a scrawny runt Constantly bullied throughout my life DnD was my escape and I've played since the very beginning of 2nd Edition. I have nearly every 2nd edition product. If it wasn't for a fire at a friend's house where I left the books I'd have many many of the 3rd and 3.5 edition stuff. By the time 4th edition came out I was adulting. But got back into it for 5th edition. And then the woke mob like it came for so many other of the properties I grew up with finally attached itself to the game that literally saved my life from committing suicide DnD. I've moved on to Pathfinder learning a whole new system a whole new way to play. And will not be spending any more of my hard earned money on a company That decides chasing after the victims of a mind virus is more lucrative than providing Good wholesome entertainment where people can be what they want To the true geeks and nerds and otaku's out there! If you're not a woke idiot if you have any semblance of a soul in you If you Refuse to serve the inhabitants of the abyss, Move on to another system. Don't buy their products or anything they license. Let the company go into bankruptcy until they have no choice but to sell off all of their properties to cover their debt and maybe just maybe the next owner of DnD will treat it with reverence and love and respect that it deserves!
7:55 AHHHHH! THAT'S how they get all the money and material from the creators that they wanted before!!! Good move, Hasbro, good move! Also, isn't this what DM's Guild already is?! Though like Beyond(used to be at least), I don't know how much, if any, control WotC/Hasbro has over DM's Guild!
DM's Guild goesn't belong to Wizards of the Coast, it's a partnership between WotC and OneBookShelf (the people behind DriveThruRpg). If they switch to using DnD Beyond instead of DM's Guild, WotC won't have to pay OneBookShelf.
@@dzmitry_k Well my point was that WotC profits from DM's Guild so basically all your info does is prove my statement, they will now be able to get EVEN MORE money! I'm sure they're also trying to weasel a nice clause that gives the USAGE of things created by others as well, like they tried with with the "draft" of the new ogl!
As far as living editions, can you tell me what edition world of warcraft is on? D&D is going the route of living editions just like blood bowl was at one point. They are doing that with pdf updates for monster’s and classes via beyond. It’s easy to change rules in the system. Fantasy flight did that with x-wing when they developed the app for it. They could adjust all the ships across the board at any point without requiring a reprint. Privateer press rules are all one edition now free and a living edition online downloadable and app. Just a couple examples of living edition games out there
so i have a question about the renaming of one d&d to 5e does this mean they can release the new 5e with a new ogl which would effectively overwrite anything using the old ogl or partially so?
I've seen the playtest changes. Thinking back to 3.5, yep, we are getting 5.5. Sorry, Revised 5th Edition. Whatever. Love the energy in this video. When 'SUMMIT' first appeared I spit out my coffee.
Some of us have been calling it 5.5 since we saw the first playtest. Cause it clearly was whatever they were going to call it. In fairness DnDnext was the 5e name and they also claimed that was also the playtest and they did it before.
The Content Creator Summit was an absolute success! Everything is relative, I'm comparing it to Fyre Festival, not the first season of Real World on MTV.
Here is a big question I've had on my mind for a long time but never knew how or when to ask it...until now. So, here it goes Since so many people have proclaimed that D&D has become a mess and have migrated over to other tabletop RPGs to satisfy their fantasy cravings. Is it possible for someone like me to create their OWN kind of fantasy game with mechanics, classes, creatures and so on near similar to that of D&D? I know some people say Pathfinder is already a good replacement but upon doing research on the game, I see many things lacking that keeps it from being as memorable as D&D has been
Why not simply switch to pathfinder and add in the things you want? Or there has to be a system that would suit what you need, building a system from scratch is a difficult undertaking
@@davidburns9766 Among the things I consider to be lacking in Pathfinder are the following. There are zero bards (which is like one of the coolest fantasy classes around) The race selection is sorely limited (and I stand by the use of that word because "species" and "ancestry" just doesn't seem to fit in a fantasy setting) There are no barbarians, no dragon-like races, no unique settings like Strixhaven or the one belonging to Dimension 20's Fantasy High Finally, the designs of all the creatures and races seem lackluster compared to what D&D has given us. As for creating my own campaign; I would do one set in world of dragon-like peoples, one inspired by Guillermo Del Toro's fantasy ideas (like maybe Pan's Labyrinth,) one loosely based off of Brian Griffin's Space Shire 7 or a sort of fantastical yet modern setting like Disney's Onward or Fantasy High
@@sadlobster1 That's totally fair if Pathfinder doesn't gel with you but as someone who has started playing and GMing 2e quite recently; Bards and barbarians are core character classes in pathfinder and have been since its first edition? They operate very similarly to their 5e counterparts and in fact I've found the bard to be even more of a supportive useful member of the party in pathfinder, not to mention martial classes actually being able to keep up with spellcasters in the awesome department! The race/species thing is kind of semantics isn't it? And regardless, you can be anything from an automaton to a child of the planes of chaos and order, as well as having aasimar or tiefling heritage as someone like an orc which is far more freeing and frankly way more customisable! I do very much get you with the sadness at the lack of dragon bornesque options!! 😢 As for settings, they have kept their official settings to Golarion, but on there you have a mega city, a steam punk rebel nation, mammoth fighting giant slaying barbarian tribes, ancient Egyptian inspired fantasy, a series of pirate nations, as so much more to play around with, or you just do what I did and homebrew stuff. It isn't the end of the world and as much as I enjoyed strixhaven as a concept a. Magical school ain't exactly a novel concept and b. There are far better systems that aren't even pathfinder to play a magic school like game in Whatever you chose to do, I hope you have an amazing time playing the games you like, I'd just suggest giving it a chance! :D
@@sadlobster1 Did you pick up the Beginner Box Set from PF2E and think that was all there was? Your claims about the limitations of PF2E don't really make any sense. Play it or don't but I think you are very confused as to what PF2E is.
Imagine steam only selling valve games… pretty sure that idea would be dead on arrival 😅 I don’t see this as a threat. Let Hasbro inject all those new customers into the TTRPG community, the seem to believe they can convert millions of outsiders. Once those tried DnD, they’re inevitably going to look up resources online and find the breadth of what is available on the other side of the paywall. I see millions of new players as a win, no matter their beginning trajectory. 😊
@@lukasl3440 City of Mist(is it "of the" or just "of"?) looks AWESOME! Wish I had money to get some of the books, and that I actually live somewhere that I could find people to play games with!
@@mrgunn2726 I enjoy watching what they are doing. I already plan on staying in PF 2e systems for the next couple years for now. I am 5 sessions into a new campaign and my players are loving the system.
"Not a new edition" B.S. coincidentally makes their VTT easier to build and manage, as they can just bake the ruleset in and change it when new books come out, removing the requirements of ruleset version management, selectable rule set editions, etc. Also would explain their lack of support for other games in the VTT. Of course, if they're doing this, it would make baseline 5e impossible to play, and you'd be prepping games for an ever-shifting pile of changing rules. At least on D&D Beyond VTT or whatever they name it.
"Half-races are being included via the 2014 Players Handbook". That's going to be made out of print. And the PDFs for it will no longer be sold. This is like how TSR ditched the assassin and half-orc for 2e to appeal to the blue-haired church ladies. Except it's now for purple-haired lxdies.
completely agree this lets wizards pick winner's and losers' in the 3rd party space, but I really don't think that many companies are going to go to 5.5 we are about to see a new edition war and a diversification of the market, at first I was concerned that VTT was going to railroad the market but that thing is going to be so buggy and take so long to come out
You sure about that?! It hasn't changed nearly as much as she makes it sound like in this video! Most channels that did D&D content before are STILL doing at least MOSTLY D&D content, same as they did before the bs that Hasbro pulled. People don't care that WotC was literally trying to steal material and money from the hard working people that were keeping their game afloat for past few years! Critical Role making their own game MIGHT help sway people though. I didn't know they were doing this because I told myself their weak stance was not enough(don't argue with me fanbois, I don't give a shit about any NDAs because WotC employees ALSO have them and their jobs were ALL they had to keep them afloat. Critical Role has MILLIONS of fans and plenty of other projects to pay their bills)! I hadn't watched much of campaign 3 anyway because there are just too many G.D. ads in their videos and they always seem to come at the most intense times and COMPLETELY kill the mood.
@@JacksonOwex yeah Wotc is planning for a day that may never come, one in witch they have a 100% functioning VTT that works with their new rules and an integrated marketplace, if theses things were all ready to go and deployed on the market place at once, then yes i can see their plan working but we are going to get rules, new books first and a drawn out roll out of the VTT and breaking in the VTT or any new software endeavor this complex is going to be slower than they think it will be, i fully expect them to shoot themselves in the foot many more time's as well, this mass buy in for the new editor is not going to be as quick as they want especially with out the VTT at launch, at that point all another VTT has to do is cater to people that want to play old style 5E and other game systems, they might not be as flashy but if they make some improvements over what is on the market now they will likely be able to hold a good share of the market, WotC's plan isn't bad but its too ambitious and they have shot any player good will out the window
Race as a term yes. Half-something I’ve seen the opposite. Admittedly the latter is anecdotal from my wife, who’s Biracial and pretty far left on the spectrum, thing is, she’s opposed to it. She knows a lot of people who identify as half-whatever, and while yeah the implication is the other is white, that’s assumed cause that’s usually the case! The people it’s not the case for say half-this/half that. But they are still using half-x for the term. So this decision ignores the reality for many people and she thinks she won’t be alone resenting it if they don’t revise: many biracial get a lot of societal pressure to “choose” a race, they won’t appreciate the implication that they have to do so on the mechanical side of these kinds of characters either. She’s fine with species as a term but wants to see the common half species as a thing even if you can’t do them all (all the humanoids able to mix is 36 half combos). When I told her about all this she said “is thier diversity team actually a bunch of white people overthinking this? Cause that’s usually who comes up with these kinds of ‘not a problem for us’ solutions.”
There's alot in this to unpack... so I think I'll just comment on the smaller points... 1. Did you notice that its only the "Half-" half-races that are being called "racist"? Nothing from the Tieflings (Half-demons), Aasimar (half-celestials), Goliath's (half-giants), Genasi (half-elementals), and Dragonborn (half-dragons, but not half-dragons, but they are), etc... so its less that they dont approve of "half-races" anymore, and more that they like it when the half-race has a name... So...lets say... Tanites for the Half-Elves Orsmen for the Half-Orcs Done, great, lets move on...even though this is mostly an issue for groups who play in the WotC Forgotten Realms of 5E, where the lore is so mish-mash now, it doesn't resemble Ed Greenwood's world at all; and it was WotC who decided to make Tanis Half-Elven's backstory the CANNON LORE of how all "Half-" races come about; even though Tanis is an exception from a bad point in Krynn's timeline, and not a reflection of the world as a whole! But, c'mon, thats too much work to put in for WotC... after all, let us not forget the holy text of 5E Spelljammer "The DM decides" ...yes, words to do nothing and get paid for... 2. Yeah, so, how is this gonna be 5.5 if they are systematically changing up the way classes, spells, etc...work? So, Eldritch Blast is now a power exclusive to Warlocks...but I can just bring my 5.0E PHB and in there its a Cantrip that a Wizard or Lore Bard can learn... THIS COMPLETELY BREAKS THIS REVISION EDITION OF FIFTH EDITION! So, like everything else, WotC has broken it before release, because they didnt think it through. 3. ah... screw it... Y'know what? I dont care anymore...I moved my game to the Cypher System from Monte Cook Games a year ago (after having run several one shots for my group), so I really dont care what stupidity WotC/Hasbro come up with next. Iv seen this all before from them in 3/3.5, and then 4E... they seem incapable of learning. Oh, and when I say I moved my game...i mean that, Its the same campaign, but different game system mechanics now running it... think of it like Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2...but, backwards... Mass Effect 2 was very good at being a combat game...but Mass Effect 1 was a far better RPG (of the two). Cypher is a far better TTRPG then D&D5Era; and because of that, My world has all the mechanics it needs to function that D&D5Era just never gave us...like proper vehicle combat mechanics, crafting (if you cant find good crafting mechanics in Cypher, look in Numenera Destiny), Settlement building, hirelings, trade (both economic, and player downtime work), etc... Not to mention, Cypher/Numenera has much better "ship to ship" combat rules, and doesn't try to convince you to NOT have ship-to-ship combat in your SPACE SHIP CAMPAIGN!!! Just remember, your campaign is not your system... If you dont like D&D and the lack of rules in 5era; then just change to a new game... Pathfinder, Shadowrun, Cypher, FATE, AGE, Call of Cthulhu, Star Trek, Star Wars, etc... Chances are, you'll find a system that plays the game you WANT to play, rather then trying to conform your homebrew world into a system that doesn't accomodate it! After all, how important are classes to characters in your world? Do they define them? Or do they merely provide a character with the skills they need? AGE system by Green Ronin Gaming does D&D 5E, just better, then D&D 5E, in every way...in my opinion. Pathfinder is better if you want "5E Advanced", because its basically revised, functioning, 3.5 D&D... Cypher offers players broad customisation for characters, and focuses on roleplaying and narrative over "everything is combat". Shadowrun is for Heisting...generally, it offers more, but its the OG of "plan how to steal the thing, then improvise when it goes wrong"...LOL. And everything else is franchise-based...so instead of that Star Trek conversion for D&D5E, just go play Star Trek Adventures by Modiphius, for example.
5:09 But is the VTT actually flashy? It looks an Unreal tech demo with high-res 3d models slapped in. None of the parts actually interact with each other, and the animations for just wiggles or stock explosions inserted in. It looks on par with what TaleSpire was 2-3 years ago but without any actual game functionality.
Hi discourse talking about turning on Wizards of the coast have you watched the latest you tube video from Table top Alchemy about the use of Ai for Frost grave? If not give it a watch because I was wondering weather you think it could be used by a DM to base a campaign on. Hope to get a reply as I think it could be a way of showing Wizards they can't just use Dnd as a cash cow.
4:28 ive seen aimless speculation critical role *might* create a new ttrpg system, but nothing concrete. This made me think i missed a huge announcement, bit alas i still cant find anything on the subject.
my guess... When all these new small to mid-size rpg makers face the same reality as all the other hundreds of small to mid size rpg makers have faced... The market... as such... is not all that big nor is it really all that lucrative. Many of tghem will go back to the easy mode of making content for the big two or three brands. Esp as nostalgia is oh so powerful. Just look at Dragonbane, or as we knew it when i was little Drakar och Demoner.... What chance do they have... And they have one of the biggest publishers in Europe behind them.. It will be a short joyous burst of content.. and then most will fold.
This is Hasbro. They made a Transformers movie in the 80's and killed off most of the autobots in the first 20 minutes so they could sell more toys. There's no such thing as the end of editions. RIP Optimus Prime... until he had his rude awakening. (Anyone else watch Dr Smoov's videos? Those were the shit.)
It's normal that DnD wants to stay dominant. If they find a way to do it that serves creators and players, I'm here for it. Asking them to support any other game system is ridiculous imho. There is always Roll20 for that. Why not call races Ancestry, just like they started doing already ? It's vague enough to be PC for the foreseeable future and the ancestry system opened up a lot of PC customization. Species is bad because it implies that they cannot reproduce together as easily. PS : I loved the prequels come on I know you did too. Or now you love it for the memes
great video. got an audible laugh out of me when you mentioned "Feature creep". you give them far too much credit, tangentially related, Feats, we've gotten what, maybe 25 new feats over the course of 8+ years for 5e? the biggest issue with 5e, mechanically, is just an actual lack of options,
I mean I kinda get what you're saying about the D&D marketplace opening up to 3rd parties potentially locking out things and whatnot, but this is already what they did in 3rd edition. The reason why there were so many 3rd and 3.5e books was because they officially published 3rd party content. And I think that that was a much bigger and more restrictive deal for its time than this is for now. Like We've already gotten used to acquiring 3rd party books through other means and the internet and other storefronts won't suddenly stop existing just because of there being an official D&D Beyond storefront, just like how there are still 3rd party Character sheets and How D&D's VTT will not replace other 3rd party VTTs. While it is true that the average consumer might not be aware of these things, TTRPGs are unique in that they are mostly directed by whoever is playing the GM, and the GM is more often than not the most experienced and involved in the fandom. So even if they're running a game for 4 newbies, they're still the ones that will likely be supplying the books and whatnot, so it'll be up to them if they wanna use D&D Beyond to buy 3rd party books or go through some other source like Drivethrurpg or GM Binder or whatever. So like I honestly think that Beyond selling 3rd party books is about as threatening to form a monopoly as them launching their own VTT. Meaning that I doubt it'll affect anything. Sure it might have a bit of an impact but I don't think it's anywhere near as dramatic as you're making it out to be. And also this exact idea is something I remember a ton of people proposing as an alternative to the OGL situation. Not to mention that it is still worth pointing out that they did release 5e, SRD into the public domain, so now they can't do shit about whatever 3rd party content you wanna make anymore no matter what. Like I wanna shit on WotC as much as the next guy, but I think that thinking about this realistically, it's really not that big a deal.
Your right about Folks over Species and races by the way which in northeast fFloira my home we call people folks as a postscript thing... Like I am an Jaxson Folk... So yeah definlyy swapped it with race in my game system thanks it does fit much better!
I'm pretty sure you will be able to manually do all the calculations, and ignore most animations and shortcut buttons... Although I can't imagine why anyone would do that.
@@dzmitry_kOther than a maps, one of the big benefits of using a VTT is so it does the tedious bits and if I have to do it all manually I might as well just invite everyone over. The other VTTs have a API that lets you work with them to support your system. And since this is WoTC and they own the AD&D license, it should be them doing it if they expect people to come to their platform for D&D.
Not too worried about a D&D Beyond marketplace. They already have the DM's Guild and a lot of creators quickly realized the license terms were not creator friendly. People use it when they absolutely need access to WotC proprietary content in their content.
Yeah, they are pretty trash, though all the things like that are pretty similar! Now just think how terrible it would be if WotC/Hasbro had FULL control over the site? Remember that "license back" crap from the "draft" OGL? It rears it's ugly head again!
D&D beyond marketplace means 3rd parties now need to approach WOTC to get permission to do what is essentially in the privacy of their proverbial home, so to speak. If I want to give out free content, do charity, or retroactively change things, well better run that by corporate first. Might be an oversimplification of the problem, but you get it.
DM Lair didn't drop shit lmao. He gives 16 minutes of reasons why he's leaving DND.... but then says he'll still be running current games for the channel, releasing more of his DM content for 5e, and to the question of releasing PF2E exclusive content said it's a big maybe (lets be real probably wont pay him nearly as well) BUT HE IS GOING TO USE THE TERM GAMEMASTER INSTEAD OF DUNGEON MASTER!!!!! WAOW SO BRAVE. He is literally trying to have his cake and eat it too. Saying he doesn't support Hasbro WOTC to appear morally good but still going to make content for 5e cause it's his job. Dude is standing on a soap box made of playing cards and that video really turned me off from his brand cause it's complete bs
Agreed. Also the backpedaling and cowardice to talk about their calling “half-races inherently racist”. He wont touch it and really most including here, wont call Jeremy Crawford and WoTC out on this! They are going down with the ship and allowing this insanity to continue because it too polarizing. WoTC need called out just like they did on the OGL. We are leaving 3rd party and content creators for not calling out bull.
He's well over priced and I honestly find his stuff fairly generic anyway. Also hate the fact his characters all sound like a bratty 12 year olds common interpretation of the classes.
@@MK_ULTRA420 Yes because literally the ENTIRE video up until the end where he basically tells us he's still going to create and make money off dnd....BUT WONT USE DUNGEON MASTER (waow) was full of great information and seemed like he was really taking a stand. Not this fake ima pretend to take a stand so I look better but still making all of my money from their system
Hasbro can do whatever they want from here. I have the core books, Spelljammer and bunch of Kobold Press stuff. I can stay busy for a very long time on just a few books.
I like how her accent makes "content creators" sound like "content critters." I want the stats for content critters, because they sound delightful.
me too :D
Here you go!
Content Critters
Small beast, unaligned
Armor Class: 12
Hit Points: 10 (3d6)
Speed: 30 ft.
STR DEX CON INT WIS CHA
4 (-3) 14 (+2) 10 (+0) 2 (-4) 10 (+0) 4 (-3)
Skills: Perception +2
Senses: passive Perception 12
Languages: -
Challenge: 1/4 (50 XP)
Traits
Pack Tactics
The Content Critter has advantage on an attack roll against a creature if at least one of the Content Critter's allies is within 5 feet of the creature and the ally isn’t incapacitated.
Keen Hearing and Smell
The Content Critter has advantage on Wisdom (Perception) checks that rely on hearing or smell.
Actions
Bite
Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target.
Hit: 4 (1d4 + 2) piercing damage.
Scratch
Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target.
Hit: 4 (1d4 + 2) slashing damage.
Content Creator (1/day)
The Content Critter can create a 10-foot radius area of bright light as a bonus action. Every creature within the area must make a Wisdom saving throw (DC 10). On a failed save, the creature is charmed by the Content Critter for 1 minute. While charmed, the creature must use its turn to move towards the Content Critter's position or to take the Dash or Disengage action, if it cannot move closer. A creature can repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns, ending the effect on itself on a success.
Remember, Microsoft said that Windows 10 was the last edition of Windows there would ever be, all you will get are updates, with two major upgrades each year. We all saw how that worked out.
Oh, yeah, I remember.
I also remember calling bullshit and no one believing me.
And #WotC is full of Microsoft execs now.
What do you expect from the same people who brought you that lie? But look on the bright side. You will own your D&D materials like you own your Microsoft Office materials.
Greed wins, every time.
I can't play space marine Microsoft are bunch of heritics and it's unplayable on 11.
To be more accurate, they had a technical issue that delayed their presentation so to avoid "dead air" they opened up to accept questions from the content creators. And boy did that backfire beautifully.
Everything they've done to "fix the problem" has only made things worse! You'd think SOMEONE in a multi-BILLION dollar company would realize that they just need to STOP trying to "fix" the problems, most people have gone right on back to D&D anyway, sadly!
I don't know what the hell she's seen on Bob World Builder's Channel to make her think he's stopped with 5E, he's done a FEW videos about other games but still is pumping out that D&D content as if nothing has changed. Perhaps I missed something and she wasn't trying to imply that Bob had changed his content.
DM Lair(Is it singular or possessive DM?) has only RECENTLY started to do videos that aren't D&D related, though it could just be a one off for him too!
@@JacksonOwex I just found my way here here from the DM Lair video that said he's consciously moving away from D&D in favour of Pathfinder and details his reasons why: th-cam.com/video/H9rEJiAFXY4/w-d-xo.html
P.S. It's "The DM Lair".
@@JacksonOwex ideological stances are all well and good but money is money. Also as third-party you’re not necessarily giving WOTC money in fact, you’re definitely not unless you are on DMsguild
I get the feeling like Wizards wants to get into the mobile game realm of nickle and diming you for a ton of stuff you can only keep using if you keep using thier software. It was ok with ttrpg because we could use our set pieces and minis however wanted to, make up our own, whatever. Now it'd be a walled garden where everything costs extra all of the time.
Just watch the physical book releases become rarer and rarer, as all the player-facing content gets released as D&D Beyond-exclusive DLC. Maybe we'll get a "Tasha's Cauldron of Everything Else" physical compendium eventually, but book releases will go from quarterly, to yearly, before we know what's hit us. The quality won't improve, cuz they'll still be rushing out content online, but we'll just get less books. I'd bet money on this.
@@nowayjosedaniel That costs money. They want to make all the money while spending as little as possible.
@@nowayjosedaniel no it’s not. The digitization aside, the play is inherently different. A video game doesn’t let you not-quite play by its rules for the sake of rule of cool. Or fail to let you do what’s in the rules cause the DM has a preference against that.
@@nowayjosedaniel but they’ve already seen with pissing off the main niche audience gets them games gotta sell. Either way they won’t be trying to convert a vtt into a video game.
The CEO actually said so. She is a fan of monetizing the game in the same way video games are monetized. She is a terrible leader. She doesn’t understand the product or community.
My theory is that someone understands the power that "5e" has on the web. It's literal shorthand on the internet, and giving that up gives up some kind of virtual real estate that few companies have access to. It's really smart not to want to give up "5e".
So was 3e, in its day. 3.5 was pretty well accepted, but 4e... That was what Hasbro/WotC are trying all over again. Because all the people who know better have retired.
It's literally shorthand in game stores since 3rd parties can't legally use the actual D&D logo.
Not to mention that as soon as they say 6e, sales of the current books will drop off a cliff.
It is. As "5e" has become a common Brand and thus looses Protection by Law even more - which they wanted to counteract with that ridiculous "newOGL".
"ONE D&D" is burned beyond recognition as "Unifying" did not go well - so now a better approach, a more lenient and casual - is demanded - "Just D&D".
Just D&D will be then Brand to the "5e" as "3.5" is to many others.
If they just lable their Books "5e compatible" it is a free Ad Slogan coming along the Rebranding they did - and it changed a lot, and we all can parttake in shaping that Future with hate and disdain or with careful trust and covered creidit we give - as we ought to be the "Heroes" here and not the "Villians" - and Wizzard is the King, so to speak.
@@nowayjosedaniel You can basically type any string of words into google while including "5e" and the results will prioritize trying to find D&D content.
You are the highest quality example of the "person unreasonably emphatic next to a microphone" genre I have come across and I look forward to your future D&D focused rants. Subscribed!
The change from "ONE D&D" to "Just D&D" is a bait and switch, IMO.
They wanted to use the OGL change to monopolize their game. They got caught. They were likely going to use the new edition to promote their monopoly and VTT and create their walled garden with Whales they could milk for the coming decade. But since they flopped, they now are pretending that ONE D&D wasn't anything more than a rules update.
They will wait a few years, draft up a license similar to the 4e GSL (since they can't do the OGL anymore, and the ORC is going to be a stable replacement anyway), then start releasing "D&D Premium" as a new edition ONLY available to digital subscribers (Why pay for print when you can replicate PDFs for free?), and have this truly new edition, which will probably look more like 4e than 5e (but will "feel" evolved from 5e) made under the stringent new license they make.
Which will probably also have clauses for not sharing PDFs, if they can get away with it...
It's also pretty unjust, that D&D....
100% this. It also means they can stop putting much effort into it (since it isn't going to earn them lots of money), and instead focus secretly on their new evil plan. And trust me, with their new hires such as the former Microsoft CEO, they have evil plans. The first of which will be insane microtransactions associated with their VTT.
They really won’t though. Not because of any sudden growth of conscience, but pure pragmatism. What you describe is sticking your hand back in the flame after 2nd degree burns. It won’t work and they actually know that now. Any new license will simply trigger this again no matter what name it falls under. Creative Commons was a self-crippling to prove they couldn’t do what you just described
Also they won’t make it like 4e because 4e was their biggest flop.
@kagato23 WotC has made multiple "flops" in business despite proof that these moves are unsuccessful.
Proof of that is 4e directly. 4e was made to monopolize D&D and create a VTT that would ultimately make WotC the premiere TTRPG. In addition, in doing so, they created the GSL in the hopes that it would make obsolete the OGL 1.0a
The result was that 4e pushed extant fans away to their biggest competitor, which used the OGL 1.0a to maintain the product line of WotC's most successful edition, 3.5
So what did WotC just try to do?
Monopolize D&D and make it the premiere TTRPG that functions simultaneous to a VTT. They also tried to remove their previous mistake of leaving the OGL available for competitors to use by trying to effectively kill it.
You say that they used the CC license as a pragmatic move to show good will.
I say they used the CC to attain their goal, and 5e was a sacrifice to do exactly what they intended all along: kill the OGL.
Now that the OGL is no longer in primary use, aka effectively defunct, they can determine to withhold FUTURE content from being placed under the CC in order to make it impossible for competitors to monetize, and they have been released from the obligation to use the OGL anymore.
What's more is that they have a big sugar daddy (Hasbro) to pay to scoop up creators that used to work for their primary competitors. Which foolishly published under the OGL, and will also publish under the ORC, so WotC is free to "borrow" creativity from their competition...
Which is what they intended to do with their OGL "update" anyway.
Yes, this move is pragmatic. It is cheaper to use a CC because they don't have to hire lawyers to resolve any document issues, they get exactly what they want anyway (the OGL removed by default of using the CC), they are free now to use a GSL in future content without concern, they still get to steal competitors work if they want...
WotC didn't stop making mistakes. They are continuing to make the same ones they have always made. They are just doing so more easily, and are enabled by circumstance. WotC's dream was content akin to 4e. Not mechanics wise, but based on the business model of it.
And they will step on as many rakes as they need to to repeat their mistake and attain their goal.
This is the second time, at least, that they have stepped on a rake to repeat history, and arguably the 4th time if you count the mistakes made in MtG land...
@@michaelgorham2100 less goodwill and more the only move available with the realization that 0 trust existed for any new version even if all it did was update terms.
WOTC tried with 4e. Hasbro tried with 5e. Different management needing to learn the same lesson. Shareholders might be the god who needs appeasement but the shareholders don’t like it when the banks are saying the company’s making bad decisions with their IPs. And feedback where 86% dissatisfaction with a boycott attached was in the LEAST objected to change is a fairly clear picture painter. Any content they produce not using the license will immediately be red flagged, by those like you who are sure they will do it. They won’t do it
because they can’t. They have run a successful business for the most part. They aren’t idiots despite making idiot moves recently, at least collectively. They didn’t need to “sacrificed the old OGL to not release stuff under it anyway? So not sure how any of this would be strategy. They just tried to do that and we are here. I struggle to see how they failed to do this as a strategy to fail to do it. Maybe if they leaned into “6.0 new rules” but they have now made a point of saying it’s a 5e revision. Empasizing they will still use their “sacrificed” system makes it much harder and they many reasons not to do that if your read is accurate.
The OGL 1.0a always allowed for Wizards to use other content put under their license as their own. They even included acknowledgment of that in the 2014 FAQ. Whatever else you want to say, we can’t say they abused it yet. As to paying money to scoop up competitors, okay? That’s just good business? Why wouldn’t they want to acquire proven talent for themselves?
They still need lawyers, even when your position in a document issue is rock solid, if you go to court somebody has to be there for you.
The problem is this isn’t rakes anymore. They tried, and sure if they could get their goal they’d have done so, but the rakes became a thorny hedge and the hedge is on perpetual fire. They might look for a way around it (probably by monetizing the VTT as much as they can and slapping proprietary on virtually anything you put in there, making it a Dmsguild where anything on there needs be exclusive, none of this is saying I trust them) but they won’t try to go through it.
It's not like Hasbro would set up an "open" marketplace, get third-party authors dependent upon it as a revenue stream and then change the terms to something more in line with what they wanted in the first place, would they?
I honestly believe they won’t based on simple pragmatism. The attempt to change failed. The attempt to change comparatively little failed because they lost all trust. They put it in creative comments as a offering from being defeated. They can’t change it now because the cc license means the creators can outright ignore it now. There is no take back. They’d have to make an entirely new system which they also backpedaled on for the same lack of trust.
3:18 "Something tells me like the, 'Pleasure Palace of the B'thuvian Demon Whore.'"-
*immediately pauses video to google the shit out of that*
That "Dramatization" of the QA might be my favorite thing ever 😂😂😂. Amazing job 👏
Yeah it's amazing she seems to know exactly how it went even though she wasnt there 🙄
Negative videos garner more views than positive. Shes selling you garbage and you're eating it up. Be better.
@@laughingpanda4395 So just how much is WotC paying you to shill for them?
@@rickbruner5525 I'm not. D&D has been a part of my life for over 30 years now. I dont throw that away so easily. Plus these videos are pure conjecture and others have come out with first hand experience that completely debunks all this bs. She sounds like a jaded ex girlfriend and I find it annoying.
What exactly did WotC ACTUALLY DO to you? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. In fact they almost made a mistake and ended up giving us more than we anticipated. So what's to be all pissy about exactly? Everything is going into creative commons so it's not as if they can even try it again so again I ask, what exactly did they do?
Been playing a fusion of v. 1 -5e for years with my group.. we don't ever NEED to buy anything.. most of it comes from us and just the core books of most editions. People should remember DND is only supposed to be a framework for a collective exercise in problem solving and imagination. You can 100% play with a full custom rule set. Never needed any books we just "Thought" we did. A friend of mine went to college with Gary, my friends character is known as Salem (Druid). Gary asked him one day(long ago),"Are you a wizard or a druid?" To which my dear friend replied I think I'd like to be a druid. They spoke that day about high fantasy together and enjoyed storytelling... There were no dice only conversation. This friend of mine played a campaign from 1975~ until 2016 RIP friend. He taught many of us on V1 as this was the only one he cared to DM with. The best thing about V1 even with many of the appendices and extra books is that it's always presented itself as a guide, a "Suggestion". DMs and players need to collectively get back to the roots. Pick or create a set of rules you all agree on per each group and have fun, make experiences and memories. DnD is the most inexpensive game I own, I can play with only a 20sided and 2 d10 no books necessary. The framework for RPGs is there, explore it. Cheers, thanks for content as always~
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@@JacksonOwex Haha well said.
I hope you can make a video on the ORC contents that Azura Law published, in order to not only focus on the negative parts of the TTRPG industry.
I totally agree. Takes like this day in day our are really getting exhausting. Sadly, chucking hand grenades inspires more interaction and traffic than simply informing ppl.
The rate at which pplz channels started to get noticed and increased in subs wasn't lost on reaction farming style channels.
Don't think they will do that. Negativity sells and that's all they've been doing since the OGL fiasco. Although Social Blade does say their views are dwindling and they haven't had a video hit 100k since the OGL discourse. Honestly hope channels like this go the way of the dinosaur. Its just tripe drama to get clicks.
@@nowayjosedaniel its click bait and negativity. you're just to strung up in it to see that. a lot of what you and this channel is saying sounds like " DnD too popular now gerrrr play other game!" comes off as very " you cant like that and you should feel bad for liking it"
@@nowayjosedaniel More reason to promote other alternatives to D&D, highlight their differences and avoid oversaturation of drama channels that cover the TTRPG industry.
@@tiamatspawn4597 yeah but negativity can only take you so far in results. It also damage your mental health, limiting your ability to enjoy positive yhing outside your work and getting you trapped in a viciously cirvle of hate and cinicism.
I am not asking to stop covering news, but a variety of content would be welcomed.
You noticed WotC's legerdemain did you. Glad someone did, they also said the only way to get hardcopy books going forward would be if you signed up for DnDBeyond. While we are whinging on about coporate control of market places and about WizBro's ham handed machinations, what about the near monopoly of OneBookShelf hmm... Good video Discourse, thanks for keeping us informed!
Really? That makes very little sense considering their stance on supporting your friendly local game store…
Once Chris Cox and the Tobacco Industry lady leave, some new executive will come in and want to leave their mark. Which will mean a new edition. This ALWAYS happens with live services.
Then we should make it clear what we want and how the new one can cvontribute, leave his mark and do not harm rather than enrich the whole Shebang - like Gamers should do, right?
But hey, New Players are always Spotlighthoggers, lets hate our GM for the new Player he might bring one day - that sure is healthy, right?
Im not worried about third parties going to D&D Beyond, theres enough players in the world who know how to buy books from other storefronts, My main fear is players becoming over reliant on D&D beyond. Its literally the only way I keep track of D&D spells.
Gamemaster 5 app is a great tool, or we also use 5e tools. I hate DnDbeyond with a passion
I have several apps on my phone for character sheets and spells but it doesn't look like the guy who made it has kept up with it. As I have not seen anything from Tasha's or later for it. He only gave basics for making your own stuff so kinda time consuming to input new information.
As for beyond I like it but now that WotC has it I'm more concerned about its usability for anything not "Official WotC" mainly because I don't want to manually input a subclass Feat or Item and find out WotC claimed it as their own.
@@nickm9102 I imagine he hasn't updated it because he doesn't have permission from WotC to do so and he needs that for legal reasons. It'd be cool to make a simple 'make your own in my app' option where you could just fill in everything from the books you own. It'd take a little work, but WotC never needs to know or care. HE didn't publish their works, THEY did.
@@davidburns9766 My current DM relies on it. I refuse to use it.
Unless you have books and spell cards
Well, It seems to me that the new VTT is in beta/pre-beta in terms of development so flexibility and customizability would be basically nil much like prerelease games that people buy and test. I am glad that the creators were holding their feet to the fire though.
Edit
Really got a laugh out of the female version of Ozzy princess of darkness as the Dr. evil of the Hasbro Corp lol.
My guess is that they pulled back about the new OGL and now trying to bring it around the other way in a sweeter looking way
I'm still gonna call it D&D 6th edition for 3 reasons. 1, it's been almost 10 years since 5th came out, as opposed to the time between 3 to 3.5. 2, yes the 2014 PHB will still be "relevant" but at the same time they have changed too much. 3, 3.5 was a lot of fixing really broken things like nerfing spells like haste and time stop.
I don't understand how 3.0 Haste made it out of playtesting.
It’s a 5.75! 😂😊
Wizards will never run out of content for this edition, just look at how they have been putting content for it so far. Each book simply recycles (often with changes) content from other books. This is Wizard's plan for dnd going forward. They will never run out of content, because they can always just use old content to fill it! And if people like he old content, they will just like this new stuff more in an infinite feedback loop of money. . . I mean love!
Your mr Hasbro dramatization was amazing. Totally nailed, the way I imagine it.
6:20 SEGA!
Okay, the joke doesn't really work in print, but to those that remember the adverts...
I'm just a Grognard, but I've seen the game I love get destroyed as it's popularity gets bigger.
Started as a group of people who got made fun of for playing a game that we loved. Then, those people want in on it and decide to completely ruin it.
Bring back my half-elf fighting evil orcs. Stop bringing your real life into the fantasy story. Leave it at the door.
Amen Brother! I miss the days of being ostracized and having to hide that I play D&D, and other TTRPGs(even back then I wanted more)!
🤘
The third party OSR community is the only thing that keeps the game alive for me.
Astonishing Swordsmen and Sorcerers of Hyperborea is life.
Have you considered trying other games? If so, which one would you recommend?
Have you ever considered that you never leave your real life? Nor does anyone? You just don't have anything in D&D that would pull you out of character and make you think about your own life experiences, and think that having such things is wrong somehow?
@@TenositSergeich I think you have entirely missed homies point. 😅
Sorry for whatever your investment in this is.
So, when they realised part of their company was making profit, they set out to destroy that part.
It wasn't making 'enough' profit was the issue.
Great video! I always enjoy your snark.
I didn't think I would find myself agreeing with the creator so much 🤣
This is the first video I've watched and...
My kinda humor and anarchy.
I really need the Pleasure Prison cover as a wall sized postern now. can you vector that up so I can get it printed as a 4 ' x 7' poster? That way I can cover the front door of my gaming room with it so my players know where they are going. And, what to expect once there.
I am a Forever GM and I am in the process of transitioning from 5e to Pathfinder 2e. Third party creators make content that has a tendency to fix the bloated mess that is 5e that at least makes it playable. The OGL was the last straw with 5e, I'm out...
@Tripp I guess going from pooping in a field to pooping in an outhouse is an improvement. 🤨
Pathfinder trades bloat for convolution. Which admittedly is great if your an older D&D edition fan, that was its point. But it’s definitely harder to learn and draw in new people.
The real rub is without getting too complicated it fixes some 5e balance issues and could be converted but won’t cause even if the license allows it it’s still pathfinder and pathfinder already did it.
@@kagato23 is there a game system you prefer over 5e?
@@tripp4130 right now, no. I miss 3.5 in a lot of ways but admit it has some of the same problems.
@@tripp4130
Golden Thrones: ICRPG, OSE, ShadowDark, D&D B/X, Low Fantasy Gaming, EZD6, Hyperboria.
American Standards: Cthulhu Darkages, Savage Worlds, Deathbringer, DungeonWorld, Fantasy Age, Witcher,
Toto Bidets: GURPs, HarnMaster, WHFRP, DCC
So when do you think they're going to actually just name it 5.5? I'm already calling it Five Point Five or Advanced Fifth when it comes up
Please don't call it Advanced fifth edition. That's an insult to AD&D and I'm calling my improved 5th edition home ruleset that. I'd call WOTC version WOKE 5TH EDITION.
Way to keep speaking the concerns that some of us older players have. Keep fighting the good fight. Solidarity.
I'm still pretty convinced that they will be doing the service sooner with the move to beyond and that books will be released well after the rules are live on the subscription online services. I also wouldn't doubt all books will be "collector grade" and have a markup, so it drives folks to use the online versions and spend more money on microtransactions there.
Saying half races are inherently racist is basically saying interracial relationships are wrong/no longer going to be in the system... Which is ACTUALLY kinda racist lmao. Dude put his whole foot in his mouth with that one
The problem is not with the existence of mixed-race people, but with how they're described in DnD. "Half-elf" assumes that human is the default (otherwise we'd call them "half-elf half-human", but half-human part is ignored because humans are default). What is racist is the idea that some race is the "default" and others are some obscure edge cases.
I belive *that* was what the WotC people meant, although I guess the wording was not perfect.
@@dzmitry_k so their solution is to have hard racial bonus mechanics locked to a specific race so that half race characters are not "actually" half but SOLELY one or the other... which is even more bio-essentialist and downright victorian eugenicist lmaooo
@@dzmitry_k Since when? I've always wondered about Half-orc Dwarves, and half-elf gnomes(though gnomes are kind of just half elf and half dwarf anyway). I never realized how simple minded the rest of the world was!
But yeah, you keep letting WotC/Hasbro gaslight you into thinking they are just despicable pieces of crap!
@@JacksonOwex "Since when?" - this discourse is several decade long, if not longer. People have been criticising the concept of race in fantasy, and in DnD specifically, for decades. Maybe you ignored them, but really, there has been a lot of discourse around it for ages.
And if you're talking about WotC, see what they actually said: "the half construction is inherently racist". The problem is *not* with mixed races, the problem is with the construction DnD is using to represent them. You're totally overblowing it.
@@JacksonOwex That you've "always wondered about half-orc Dwarves and half-elf gnomes" after some 50+ years of the game is *because* D&D has never covered them and "half-X" has always assumed the other half is human. IIRC, some sources even say that humans are the only race that can interbreed with others.
Words are wind, except when they’re written, then they’re en-light-ending.
Seriously, I’m gonna use that next time someone says some bs.
SO glad I just sold off the last of my 5e stuff. Indie games, whether their systems are crap or not, just feel like they have more heart to them than the corporate stuff.
SOME of your stuff MIGHT have still been useful. Though as crappy as 5E is as a system it's not very likely!
as someone who owns D&D books from Dungeons and Dragons, Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 3.0, 3.5 and 5..0.. Hasborg is past due for a flaming death or monopoly breakup...
Its getting harder for me to get worked up about stuff since the creative commons thing. D&D has essentially become an a la carte system.
@@nowayjosedaniel let people play what they want
The sad part is that well, you're right about everything you mentioned yet it won't matter at all: They still got the movie and that is doing rather well, so they actually *can* afford to burn down a couple of 100k influencers if they play their cards right and capitalie on the movie.
The movie still hasn't made it's production budget back at the box office.
@@MuRpHyKn0t It also doesn't make profit for WotC, just attention. It makes profit for Paramount (pretty sure it was Paramount) who paid WotC for a license to make such a movie.
The movie has had a catastrophic drop off in sales. They just timed it really bad between JW4 and Super Mario.
@@colinsmith1495 Depends on what kind of agreement was made for the usage of the property owned by Hasbro.
@@Badjujubee Timing has little to do with it. I a world where D&D is no longer ostracized as much as it used to be(there ARE still people out there that will hate on it) and most people have at least heard about it you're not going to draw people from outside in with a movie!
If people wanted to check out D&D, they HAVE, if they don't want to check out D&D, no movie is going to make them think "Oh my God this movie was amazing! Now I HAVE to go spend 100 dollars to play this game!"
Something about the half-race removal that some friends of mine pointed out...
Teiflings.
They are THE Half-Race and the most popular one. Sooo.. if they're doing away with them,. does that just make Teiflings full playable Devils?? Not too great on WotC's part if they're still fighting the whole 'Satanic Panic'. That'll go over well.
'Hey Billy what are you playing?'
'Oh you know, the literal spawn of satan.'
'.. Oh.'
I will now exclusively play trans teifling lore bards (librarians). Take that Florida/Texas/Tennessee/et al.
@@cronykil74 Hell yeah!!!
It's not that mixed parentage don't/won't exist. The term "half-XYZ" has racist connotations of some race being considered the 'default' or "normal" race. "Half-breed" was (and still is in some areas) common real world slur against people with mix parentage. People kind of need to slow down for 10min to understand what is actually going on & what the context is. But what I see a lot of is people falling in to some variation of 'their taking away this thing I like!' with out further examination. And I get it, a lot of people resist letting go of familiar things when the change is nuanced in its genesis & they have an strong emotional investment.
@@maeve615 With respect, you're talking rubbish. "Half-breed" hasn't even been considered an offensive term for very long (and still isn't, by most people who don't have a problem with human comingling or an ideological axe to grind), let alone a phrase that has long-standing use as a slur. There are other, much worse and much more common, much more specific slurs that were used for people of mixed ancestry in times and places where this was both common and viewed with disapproval. On the contrary, "half-breed" was seen as clinical or neutral language to the point where governments chose that as suitable phrasing for incorporation into the language of bills designed to promote the welfare of people of mixed ancestry, and some groups of people with mixed ancestry who wanted to advocate for their rights saw the term as fitting enough to use in the name of their organization, as when a group comprised of the children of indigenous Canadians and white settlers decided upon the name "Halfbreed Association of Northern Alberta" in 1932.
It's almost as though the professor of language who originated the use of the term "half-elf" in fantasy knew more about the connotation of words than some rando at Wizards of the Coast did. Imagine that!
I thought that the title "One D&D" was some kind of inside joke, because THAT was the answer to the challenge that my fellow gamers would ask of a poser:
"Yeah, I've played D&D before. I didn't think it was all that great, or all that difficult.."
"Oh yeah? You played? But did you win..?!
"Sure, yeah, I Won D&D.."
"Oh, look fellas, he Won D&D.."
And that's how we immediately knew he was a poser..
So when I saw the term "One D&D" used, I had to suspect the use of it was actually a joke..
Guess not..
Or maybe it's a big joke on corporate D&D executives that have never actually played the damn game..
Thanks for the "rant inside of a rant" content - I find it informative, insightful and amusing.
Once CR drops their own system, it’s over for the 5e hype, Wizards Hasbro will be GUTTED. 😆
God I hope so!
@Carter Gabriel most of 5E's new players were brought in by Critical Role
@@nowayjosedaniel unfortunately it IS that popular but I agree, I couldn’t make it past the first episode of campaign one because it was SOOO boring. Like, why would I want to watch other people that I don’t know play dnd??? Why wouldn’t I just go play it myself?
@@TheAchilles26 There is only anecdotal evidence of this. None of the information that we have points to a major increase in search engine traffic or sales for 5e around the time of Critical Role. In contrast, 5e's boom lines up very well with Stranger Things.
@@nowayjosedaniel Bob the Worldbuilder did some search engine research and there is no evidence of CR being significant from there, nor do the sales really line up temporally. Stranger Things appears (from very limited data) to have been the real major point of increased interest.
Hated the prequels?! Mutiny! lol
Careful. The shills and fanboys are probably going to rage on this one.
It's a great video. Keep speaking the truth. ❤👽😁
@@chipsalom At least it's not the CIA.
Did no-one catch that selling on their platform or marketplace, same difference will be using the same rules as DM's guild? This means you give up not only half the $ but they own the rights to it. Did I misunderstand this because I'd think everyone would be up in arms about Hasbro/WOTC taking your rights to your product, like in the first OGL "draft." Why isn't anyone fighting or mentioning this?
Obviously some people are, you just did! I did in one of the first few comments on the video.
The ownership part also matches how DDB functioned even before they were bought.
The bigger concern, if you sell on the official page they may demand exclusivity, limiting the creation of other markets.
Most platforms like that already do demand exclusivity. What I worry about is that there will be a clause in the contracts to put your material on the site that says WotC is free to use ANY and ALL material published on their site WITHOUT knowledge or compensation to the person who actually created it.
This get's WotC what they wanted with the "License back"(I think that's what it was called) clause or whatever they tried to get into the "draft" OGL. Though this time it's not completely disgusting, only mostly!
People beware signing ANY contract, but ESPECIALLY ones that have anything to do with things related to WotC!
So just like DM Guild. Where they get 25%(?) of the money.
@@ScottBaker_ grow up and work on comprehension without personal bias.
@@jamestaylor3805 So making a direct comparison isn't comprehension? Not sure what dictionary you use. Please focus on not being a troll. (Dang it, feeding the trolls again.)
That’s a pretty and flashy VTT, but I’ll stick to Foundry it has a lot more stuff I can customize and open to many different systems. All these new systems coming out need a VTT they can play on. D&D flubbing their base is so refreshing because of all these new options coming out, and opening new existing options.
Hasbro are doing a brilliant job advertising Pathfinder.
Kudos for referencing NWM, still the best game toolkit ever delivered...
The frame to your glasses are projecting the background!
:D
Around here we call that "getting them on the reservation".
Excellent!
Hasbro/WotC plays to win. The losers will be the players. I thought there was no "winning" in D&D?
Allowing the Hasbro/WotC corporation to control the narrative, is like that adversarial DM who can smite you with the "hand of god" or "falling rocks" whenever the player doesn't stick to that pre-written narrative.
This is definitely a break-up point, people gotta go explore those other game systems - and not just Pathfinder. There's more to RPGs than medieval high fantasy swords and sorcery.
THANK YOU!!! I wish more people talked about the HUNDREDS of other games that exist but everyone is too Gods damned obsessed with D&D(thanks pop culture) to bother trying to learn ANY new games! It's always "I don't have the time" or "It's too hard" and other shit like that!
If you had the time to play D&D you have time to learn a new system!
@@JacksonOwex For sure! And for that, they either miss out on one of those other gems, or they are forever stuck in d&d-land. Most games are learnable in under 30 minutes. Mastery, of course, will take more time.
Even if they do want the swords and sorcery, there's other systems out there (that some may claim) do it even better. D&D is but the gateway.
Perhaps, there's more RPG "casuals" out there than we realize. They're the ones inflating the numbers, and are the cause of Hasbro/WotC's salivation at potential earnings. Marketing brought them in, and these players are happy to flounder around in D&D, with no desire to try other game systems.
The people who still willingly continue to support Wizards of the Coast are now to be considered the scum of the Earth. I play DnD literally my entire life from the time I was a tiny teenager, And I mean that literally because I was a scrawny runt Constantly bullied throughout my life DnD was my escape and I've played since the very beginning of 2nd Edition. I have nearly every 2nd edition product. If it wasn't for a fire at a friend's house where I left the books I'd have many many of the 3rd and 3.5 edition stuff. By the time 4th edition came out I was adulting. But got back into it for 5th edition. And then the woke mob like it came for so many other of the properties I grew up with finally attached itself to the game that literally saved my life from committing suicide DnD. I've moved on to Pathfinder learning a whole new system a whole new way to play. And will not be spending any more of my hard earned money on a company That decides chasing after the victims of a mind virus is more lucrative than providing Good wholesome entertainment where people can be what they want To the true geeks and nerds and otaku's out there!
If you're not a woke idiot if you have any semblance of a soul in you If you Refuse to serve the inhabitants of the abyss, Move on to another system. Don't buy their products or anything they license. Let the company go into bankruptcy until they have no choice but to sell off all of their properties to cover their debt and maybe just maybe the next owner of DnD will treat it with reverence and love and respect that it deserves!
OK, where did you find that picture of the CR cast?! I can't find it, and it would make an amazing desktop...
7:55 AHHHHH! THAT'S how they get all the money and material from the creators that they wanted before!!! Good move, Hasbro, good move!
Also, isn't this what DM's Guild already is?! Though like Beyond(used to be at least), I don't know how much, if any, control WotC/Hasbro has over DM's Guild!
DM's Guild goesn't belong to Wizards of the Coast, it's a partnership between WotC and OneBookShelf (the people behind DriveThruRpg).
If they switch to using DnD Beyond instead of DM's Guild, WotC won't have to pay OneBookShelf.
@@dzmitry_k Well my point was that WotC profits from DM's Guild so basically all your info does is prove my statement, they will now be able to get EVEN MORE money!
I'm sure they're also trying to weasel a nice clause that gives the USAGE of things created by others as well, like they tried with with the "draft" of the new ogl!
As far as living editions, can you tell me what edition world of warcraft is on? D&D is going the route of living editions just like blood bowl was at one point. They are doing that with pdf updates for monster’s and classes via beyond. It’s easy to change rules in the system. Fantasy flight did that with x-wing when they developed the app for it. They could adjust all the ships across the board at any point without requiring a reprint. Privateer press rules are all one edition now free and a living edition online downloadable and app. Just a couple examples of living edition games out there
so i have a question about the renaming of one d&d to 5e does this mean they can release the new 5e with a new ogl which would effectively overwrite anything using the old ogl or partially so?
I've seen the playtest changes. Thinking back to 3.5, yep, we are getting 5.5. Sorry, Revised 5th Edition.
Whatever.
Love the energy in this video. When 'SUMMIT' first appeared I spit out my coffee.
Some of us have been calling it 5.5 since we saw the first playtest. Cause it clearly was whatever they were going to call it. In fairness DnDnext was the 5e name and they also claimed that was also the playtest and they did it before.
The Content Creator Summit was an absolute success! Everything is relative, I'm comparing it to Fyre Festival, not the first season of Real World on MTV.
"Eventually there'll be too many books" Have you seen WotC's printing record for 5e? They published 6 books in 10 years! utterly abysmal!
not even good books either. and way too big to be useful modular
Here is a big question I've had on my mind for a long time but never knew how or when to ask it...until now.
So, here it goes
Since so many people have proclaimed that D&D has become a mess and have migrated over to other tabletop RPGs to satisfy their fantasy cravings. Is it possible for someone like me to create their OWN kind of fantasy game with mechanics, classes, creatures and so on near similar to that of D&D?
I know some people say Pathfinder is already a good replacement but upon doing research on the game, I see many things lacking that keeps it from being as memorable as D&D has been
Why not simply switch to pathfinder and add in the things you want?
Or there has to be a system that would suit what you need, building a system from scratch is a difficult undertaking
There are clones for every edition of d&d out there.
@@davidburns9766 Among the things I consider to be lacking in Pathfinder are the following.
There are zero bards (which is like one of the coolest fantasy classes around)
The race selection is sorely limited (and I stand by the use of that word because "species" and "ancestry" just doesn't seem to fit in a fantasy setting)
There are no barbarians, no dragon-like races, no unique settings like Strixhaven or the one belonging to Dimension 20's Fantasy High
Finally, the designs of all the creatures and races seem lackluster compared to what D&D has given us.
As for creating my own campaign; I would do one set in world of dragon-like peoples, one inspired by Guillermo Del Toro's fantasy ideas (like maybe Pan's Labyrinth,) one loosely based off of Brian Griffin's Space Shire 7 or a sort of fantastical yet modern setting like Disney's Onward or Fantasy High
@@sadlobster1 That's totally fair if Pathfinder doesn't gel with you but as someone who has started playing and GMing 2e quite recently;
Bards and barbarians are core character classes in pathfinder and have been since its first edition? They operate very similarly to their 5e counterparts and in fact I've found the bard to be even more of a supportive useful member of the party in pathfinder, not to mention martial classes actually being able to keep up with spellcasters in the awesome department!
The race/species thing is kind of semantics isn't it? And regardless, you can be anything from an automaton to a child of the planes of chaos and order, as well as having aasimar or tiefling heritage as someone like an orc which is far more freeing and frankly way more customisable! I do very much get you with the sadness at the lack of dragon bornesque options!! 😢
As for settings, they have kept their official settings to Golarion, but on there you have a mega city, a steam punk rebel nation, mammoth fighting giant slaying barbarian tribes, ancient Egyptian inspired fantasy, a series of pirate nations, as so much more to play around with, or you just do what I did and homebrew stuff. It isn't the end of the world and as much as I enjoyed strixhaven as a concept a. Magical school ain't exactly a novel concept and b. There are far better systems that aren't even pathfinder to play a magic school like game in
Whatever you chose to do, I hope you have an amazing time playing the games you like, I'd just suggest giving it a chance! :D
@@sadlobster1 Did you pick up the Beginner Box Set from PF2E and think that was all there was? Your claims about the limitations of PF2E don't really make any sense. Play it or don't but I think you are very confused as to what PF2E is.
D&D next is going to have to prove itself compared to already existing ones. Ones that can run more than one game system especially.
Imagine steam only selling valve games… pretty sure that idea would be dead on arrival 😅
I don’t see this as a threat. Let Hasbro inject all those new customers into the TTRPG community, the seem to believe they can convert millions of outsiders. Once those tried DnD, they’re inevitably going to look up resources online and find the breadth of what is available on the other side of the paywall.
I see millions of new players as a win, no matter their beginning trajectory. 😊
One word - pathfinder
Two words - Year Zero
Four words - City of the Mist
And other TTRPGs
@@lukasl3440 City of Mist(is it "of the" or just "of"?) looks AWESOME! Wish I had money to get some of the books, and that I actually live somewhere that I could find people to play games with!
I don't care about any VTT. I am minimal in any battle maps or battle visualization. At this point I am leaning towards only physical books.
@Attrowoods Woods Well if you want DnD hard copies you are going to have to sign up for DnDBeyond.
@@mrgunn2726 I enjoy watching what they are doing. I already plan on staying in PF 2e systems for the next couple years for now. I am 5 sessions into a new campaign and my players are loving the system.
Really like the videos, just curious to know where your accent is from. I can't place it. Cheers!
"Not a new edition" B.S. coincidentally makes their VTT easier to build and manage, as they can just bake the ruleset in and change it when new books come out, removing the requirements of ruleset version management, selectable rule set editions, etc. Also would explain their lack of support for other games in the VTT.
Of course, if they're doing this, it would make baseline 5e impossible to play, and you'd be prepping games for an ever-shifting pile of changing rules. At least on D&D Beyond VTT or whatever they name it.
I still remember when people were bitching that 4e was going to use a system just like Beyond.
Now they're applauding.
Folk sounds cool. Reminds me of how Pillars of Eternity collectively called races "kith".
I know you're saying "Creators" but I'm hearing it as "Critters", and it's just delightful.
"Half-races are being included via the 2014 Players Handbook". That's going to be made out of print. And the PDFs for it will no longer be sold. This is like how TSR ditched the assassin and half-orc for 2e to appeal to the blue-haired church ladies.
Except it's now for purple-haired lxdies.
I'd assumed from the get-go that the Wizards VTT would be D&D-only.
completely agree this lets wizards pick winner's and losers' in the 3rd party space, but I really don't think that many companies are going to go to 5.5 we are about to see a new edition war and a diversification of the market, at first I was concerned that VTT was going to railroad the market but that thing is going to be so buggy and take so long to come out
You sure about that?! It hasn't changed nearly as much as she makes it sound like in this video! Most channels that did D&D content before are STILL doing at least MOSTLY D&D content, same as they did before the bs that Hasbro pulled.
People don't care that WotC was literally trying to steal material and money from the hard working people that were keeping their game afloat for past few years!
Critical Role making their own game MIGHT help sway people though. I didn't know they were doing this because I told myself their weak stance was not enough(don't argue with me fanbois, I don't give a shit about any NDAs because WotC employees ALSO have them and their jobs were ALL they had to keep them afloat. Critical Role has MILLIONS of fans and plenty of other projects to pay their bills)!
I hadn't watched much of campaign 3 anyway because there are just too many G.D. ads in their videos and they always seem to come at the most intense times and COMPLETELY kill the mood.
@@JacksonOwex yeah Wotc is planning for a day that may never come, one in witch they have a 100% functioning VTT that works with their new rules and an integrated marketplace, if theses things were all ready to go and deployed on the market place at once, then yes i can see their plan working but we are going to get rules, new books first and a drawn out roll out of the VTT and breaking in the VTT or any new software endeavor this complex is going to be slower than they think it will be, i fully expect them to shoot themselves in the foot many more time's as well, this mass buy in for the new editor is not going to be as quick as they want especially with out the VTT at launch, at that point all another VTT has to do is cater to people that want to play old style 5E and other game systems, they might not be as flashy but if they make some improvements over what is on the market now they will likely be able to hold a good share of the market, WotC's plan isn't bad but its too ambitious and they have shot any player good will out the window
Has a single person ever thought the term race or the concept of half-races were problematic before wizards put their dirty mittens on them?
Race as a term yes. Half-something I’ve seen the opposite. Admittedly the latter is anecdotal from my wife, who’s Biracial and pretty far left on the spectrum, thing is, she’s opposed to it. She knows a lot of people who identify as half-whatever, and while yeah the implication is the other is white, that’s assumed cause that’s usually the case! The people it’s not the case for say half-this/half that. But they are still using half-x for the term. So this decision ignores the reality for many people and she thinks she won’t be alone resenting it if they don’t revise: many biracial get a lot of societal pressure to “choose” a race, they won’t appreciate the implication that they have to do so on the mechanical side of these kinds of characters either. She’s fine with species as a term but wants to see the common half species as a thing even if you can’t do them all (all the humanoids able to mix is 36 half combos).
When I told her about all this she said “is thier diversity team actually a bunch of white people overthinking this? Cause that’s usually who comes up with these kinds of ‘not a problem for us’ solutions.”
There's alot in this to unpack... so I think I'll just comment on the smaller points...
1. Did you notice that its only the "Half-" half-races that are being called "racist"? Nothing from the Tieflings (Half-demons), Aasimar (half-celestials), Goliath's (half-giants), Genasi (half-elementals), and Dragonborn (half-dragons, but not half-dragons, but they are), etc... so its less that they dont approve of "half-races" anymore, and more that they like it when the half-race has a name...
So...lets say...
Tanites for the Half-Elves
Orsmen for the Half-Orcs
Done, great, lets move on...even though this is mostly an issue for groups who play in the WotC Forgotten Realms of 5E, where the lore is so mish-mash now, it doesn't resemble Ed Greenwood's world at all; and it was WotC who decided to make Tanis Half-Elven's backstory the CANNON LORE of how all "Half-" races come about; even though Tanis is an exception from a bad point in Krynn's timeline, and not a reflection of the world as a whole!
But, c'mon, thats too much work to put in for WotC... after all, let us not forget the holy text of 5E Spelljammer "The DM decides"
...yes, words to do nothing and get paid for...
2. Yeah, so, how is this gonna be 5.5 if they are systematically changing up the way classes, spells, etc...work?
So, Eldritch Blast is now a power exclusive to Warlocks...but I can just bring my 5.0E PHB and in there its a Cantrip that a Wizard or Lore Bard can learn... THIS COMPLETELY BREAKS THIS REVISION EDITION OF FIFTH EDITION! So, like everything else, WotC has broken it before release, because they didnt think it through.
3. ah... screw it...
Y'know what? I dont care anymore...I moved my game to the Cypher System from Monte Cook Games a year ago (after having run several one shots for my group), so I really dont care what stupidity WotC/Hasbro come up with next. Iv seen this all before from them in 3/3.5, and then 4E... they seem incapable of learning.
Oh, and when I say I moved my game...i mean that, Its the same campaign, but different game system mechanics now running it... think of it like Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2...but, backwards... Mass Effect 2 was very good at being a combat game...but Mass Effect 1 was a far better RPG (of the two). Cypher is a far better TTRPG then D&D5Era; and because of that, My world has all the mechanics it needs to function that D&D5Era just never gave us...like proper vehicle combat mechanics, crafting (if you cant find good crafting mechanics in Cypher, look in Numenera Destiny), Settlement building, hirelings, trade (both economic, and player downtime work), etc...
Not to mention, Cypher/Numenera has much better "ship to ship" combat rules, and doesn't try to convince you to NOT have ship-to-ship combat in your SPACE SHIP CAMPAIGN!!!
Just remember, your campaign is not your system...
If you dont like D&D and the lack of rules in 5era; then just change to a new game... Pathfinder, Shadowrun, Cypher, FATE, AGE, Call of Cthulhu, Star Trek, Star Wars, etc...
Chances are, you'll find a system that plays the game you WANT to play, rather then trying to conform your homebrew world into a system that doesn't accomodate it! After all, how important are classes to characters in your world? Do they define them? Or do they merely provide a character with the skills they need?
AGE system by Green Ronin Gaming does D&D 5E, just better, then D&D 5E, in every way...in my opinion.
Pathfinder is better if you want "5E Advanced", because its basically revised, functioning, 3.5 D&D...
Cypher offers players broad customisation for characters, and focuses on roleplaying and narrative over "everything is combat".
Shadowrun is for Heisting...generally, it offers more, but its the OG of "plan how to steal the thing, then improvise when it goes wrong"...LOL.
And everything else is franchise-based...so instead of that Star Trek conversion for D&D5E, just go play Star Trek Adventures by Modiphius, for example.
Yep, still not buying any more D&D stuff while Hasbro is involved.
5:09 But is the VTT actually flashy? It looks an Unreal tech demo with high-res 3d models slapped in. None of the parts actually interact with each other, and the animations for just wiggles or stock explosions inserted in.
It looks on par with what TaleSpire was 2-3 years ago but without any actual game functionality.
Hi discourse talking about turning on Wizards of the coast have you watched the latest you tube video from Table top Alchemy about the use of Ai for Frost grave? If not give it a watch because I was wondering weather you think it could be used by a DM to base a campaign on. Hope to get a reply as I think it could be a way of showing Wizards they can't just use Dnd as a cash cow.
4:28 ive seen aimless speculation critical role *might* create a new ttrpg system, but nothing concrete. This made me think i missed a huge announcement, bit alas i still cant find anything on the subject.
Who could've guessed that dousing yourself in kerosene and then pissing off all the people with lit torches was a bad idea?
All we needed for VTT was an easy to change map layer and character markers…KISS should have been their method
Engagement for the engagement god.
my guess... When all these new small to mid-size rpg makers face the same reality as all the other hundreds of small to mid size rpg makers have faced... The market... as such... is not all that big nor is it really all that lucrative. Many of tghem will go back to the easy mode of making content for the big two or three brands. Esp as nostalgia is oh so powerful. Just look at Dragonbane, or as we knew it when i was little Drakar och Demoner.... What chance do they have... And they have one of the biggest publishers in Europe behind them.. It will be a short joyous burst of content.. and then most will fold.
This is Hasbro. They made a Transformers movie in the 80's and killed off most of the autobots in the first 20 minutes so they could sell more toys. There's no such thing as the end of editions. RIP Optimus Prime... until he had his rude awakening. (Anyone else watch Dr Smoov's videos? Those were the shit.)
14:26 Meanwhile Battletech has no edtions and is doing just fine 40 years later.
But it needs a new edition lol.
It's normal that DnD wants to stay dominant. If they find a way to do it that serves creators and players, I'm here for it. Asking them to support any other game system is ridiculous imho. There is always Roll20 for that.
Why not call races Ancestry, just like they started doing already ? It's vague enough to be PC for the foreseeable future and the ancestry system opened up a lot of PC customization. Species is bad because it implies that they cannot reproduce together as easily.
PS : I loved the prequels come on I know you did too. Or now you love it for the memes
Buying books forever, or paying for a live services forever. If only there was a meme where the guy hates one thing but loves the other :)
There is a difference though. The Live Service will turn off one day and leave you with nothing.
I come here because I want to be informed, entertained, and also slightly disturbed. The Frasier jokes were a little too much, though
never enough frasier
"I have a fever, and the only cure is MORE COWB...(I mean...) MORE FRASIER!"
i really look forward to these videos.
great video.
got an audible laugh out of me when you mentioned "Feature creep".
you give them far too much credit, tangentially related, Feats, we've gotten what, maybe 25 new feats over the course of 8+ years for 5e?
the biggest issue with 5e, mechanically, is just an actual lack of options,
Wait was there no mini in that corner or was that me?
Either that is the joke (and it's a good one if it is) or it's an editing error just as funny.
I mean I kinda get what you're saying about the D&D marketplace opening up to 3rd parties potentially locking out things and whatnot, but this is already what they did in 3rd edition. The reason why there were so many 3rd and 3.5e books was because they officially published 3rd party content. And I think that that was a much bigger and more restrictive deal for its time than this is for now. Like We've already gotten used to acquiring 3rd party books through other means and the internet and other storefronts won't suddenly stop existing just because of there being an official D&D Beyond storefront, just like how there are still 3rd party Character sheets and How D&D's VTT will not replace other 3rd party VTTs.
While it is true that the average consumer might not be aware of these things, TTRPGs are unique in that they are mostly directed by whoever is playing the GM, and the GM is more often than not the most experienced and involved in the fandom. So even if they're running a game for 4 newbies, they're still the ones that will likely be supplying the books and whatnot, so it'll be up to them if they wanna use D&D Beyond to buy 3rd party books or go through some other source like Drivethrurpg or GM Binder or whatever.
So like I honestly think that Beyond selling 3rd party books is about as threatening to form a monopoly as them launching their own VTT. Meaning that I doubt it'll affect anything. Sure it might have a bit of an impact but I don't think it's anywhere near as dramatic as you're making it out to be. And also this exact idea is something I remember a ton of people proposing as an alternative to the OGL situation. Not to mention that it is still worth pointing out that they did release 5e, SRD into the public domain, so now they can't do shit about whatever 3rd party content you wanna make anymore no matter what.
Like I wanna shit on WotC as much as the next guy, but I think that thinking about this realistically, it's really not that big a deal.
Your right about Folks over Species and races by the way which in northeast fFloira my home we call people folks as a postscript thing... Like I am an Jaxson Folk... So yeah definlyy swapped it with race in my game system thanks it does fit much better!
We all knew that a new version of the ogl was coming.
Can you even play other versions of D&D, like, oh, AD&D 1e/2e on the Wizards VTT? :(
(rhetorical, I know you can't).
I'm pretty sure you will be able to manually do all the calculations, and ignore most animations and shortcut buttons... Although I can't imagine why anyone would do that.
@@dzmitry_kOther than a maps, one of the big benefits of using a VTT is so it does the tedious bits and if I have to do it all manually I might as well just invite everyone over.
The other VTTs have a API that lets you work with them to support your system. And since this is WoTC and they own the AD&D license, it should be them doing it if they expect people to come to their platform for D&D.
D&D is now edition fluid!
Not too worried about a D&D Beyond marketplace. They already have the DM's Guild and a lot of creators quickly realized the license terms were not creator friendly. People use it when they absolutely need access to WotC proprietary content in their content.
Yeah, they are pretty trash, though all the things like that are pretty similar! Now just think how terrible it would be if WotC/Hasbro had FULL control over the site? Remember that "license back" crap from the "draft" OGL? It rears it's ugly head again!
You are a delight. Keep blasting away at our corporate evil overlords.
thank you :3
D&D beyond marketplace means 3rd parties now need to approach WOTC to get permission to do what is essentially in the privacy of their proverbial home, so to speak.
If I want to give out free content, do charity, or retroactively change things, well better run that by corporate first. Might be an oversimplification of the problem, but you get it.
D&D is the mcdonalds of tabletop RPG's. Fight me.
I agree. But i still would like to fight you.
That's needlessly pompous
DM Lair didn't drop shit lmao. He gives 16 minutes of reasons why he's leaving DND.... but then says he'll still be running current games for the channel, releasing more of his DM content for 5e, and to the question of releasing PF2E exclusive content said it's a big maybe (lets be real probably wont pay him nearly as well) BUT HE IS GOING TO USE THE TERM GAMEMASTER INSTEAD OF DUNGEON MASTER!!!!! WAOW SO BRAVE. He is literally trying to have his cake and eat it too. Saying he doesn't support Hasbro WOTC to appear morally good but still going to make content for 5e cause it's his job. Dude is standing on a soap box made of playing cards and that video really turned me off from his brand cause it's complete bs
Agreed. Also the backpedaling and cowardice to talk about their calling “half-races inherently racist”. He wont touch it and really most including here, wont call Jeremy Crawford and WoTC out on this! They are going down with the ship and allowing this insanity to continue because it too polarizing. WoTC need called out just like they did on the OGL. We are leaving 3rd party and content creators for not calling out bull.
He's well over priced and I honestly find his stuff fairly generic anyway. Also hate the fact his characters all sound like a bratty 12 year olds common interpretation of the classes.
Yeah, I've got no use for that guy.
He's a DnD player are you truly surprised?
@@MK_ULTRA420 Yes because literally the ENTIRE video up until the end where he basically tells us he's still going to create and make money off dnd....BUT WONT USE DUNGEON MASTER (waow) was full of great information and seemed like he was really taking a stand. Not this fake ima pretend to take a stand so I look better but still making all of my money from their system
Hasbro can do whatever they want from here. I have the core books, Spelljammer and bunch of Kobold Press stuff. I can stay busy for a very long time on just a few books.
Its PLEASURE PRISON! If you come into my house, you get my wife's name right!
damn, i am shamed my family for this one