Laugh all you want..... when Starbuck ain't around to save you from the Klingons attacking in their Vorlon ships..... you and all your friends will be down at the local train station running head first into pylons trying to find your way to the secret platform to take you to the Lylat system to find Samus to save you!
Yeah, I’m sorry if I was an operator with a laser on top of my vehicle, there would definitely be a trigger wire connected to a relay connected to a microphone set up with a continuous phaser beam sound from Star Trek or Star Wars. It would be very simple to do.
Lexus and BMW have to pipe simulated engine sound into the cabin to make people feel like they got their money's worth. So there is precedent. But if my experience working near RF and high voltage equipment is any gauge, the generator will rev up to meet the electrical demand, and the transformers will buzz like angry bees. Not satisfying but something. And if the claymore is any indicator, they will probably have to put a strobe and a siren on the think to tell dismounts it is firing.
My father was part of the Phalanx/Ciws team over at Raytheon (or as he called it Uncle Ray's Missle Barn) and I do have to inform you of one important upgrade the army version got when importing the weapon from the navy. The Navy version fires massive bullets that rip apart into tiny bullets that move super fast. However this dumps a lot of metal bits around the area which works better in the Ocean than in the middle of a base/town. So the Army solution was to make the bullets explosive so al lof that debris turns to ash etc. before landing. TLDR: The army Phalanx uses explosive bullets for safety!
How to defend against drones from the ground - Infantry on foot : shotguns ( AA12 ) with depleted uranium pellets , the XM-25 , EW . - Vehicles : laser , microwave , APKWS , AA 30mm cannons and you have to weigh the 75mm , 127mm , 155mm with laser guidance systems , AA missiles , EW .
There's quite a few systems out there that take out drones. You really only mentioned a small portion of them. LMADIS is personally my favorite because it counters the "small and cheap" drones (like quadcopters) that people like to worry about. It's an even cheaper system than M-Shorad, usuing a Polaris that took too much protein powder as one of the chasis. LMADIS also has a version fixed to a JLTV which has a machine gun attached to engage kinetically and a static version that is mounted on a tripod. It's really funny that people claim the west is lacking capability without doing any research to see if there actually is a capability gap.
I think one good thing for every infantry platoon leader or platoon sergeant to have would be a simple device that can passively scan for the signals that go between a drone and it's operator. Just something they can keep on their wrist, like a Garmin. Actually getting a distance, altitude, and heading for the drone might be a little more difficult (at that point, it's asking for an AESA Radar system that's serviceable by an infantry platoon), but just being able to detect if a drone is within a kilometer of you could be really useful.
They actually have a 'rifle' with a several km range that will overwhelm and scramble the drones control frequency and literally force it to land just aim and pull the trigger line of sight and speed of light. Aliexpress sells the Chinese version with a 2 km range for about $3000 to anyone. I imagine the dept of mad scientists (DARPA) already has come up with an even better soldier portable set up
@@michaelmclaughlin2663 The concern here is detection. The biggest trouble with quadrotor drones is the fact that against the backdrop of the sky, they're difficult to detect visually or audibly. Electronically, it'd be incredibly easy.
The laser zippy zappy thing is ok but I like boom then partials raining down. Bunch of us backwoods peeps would love to give it a go with 12 and 20 pews with sights =).
"phasers from Star Wars": When I did detainee ops in Iraq, the guard towers had less-than-lethal microwave guns that had a "pew pew pew pew" sound added (like Plan 9 From Outer Space special effects) so we could tell when they were firing. It was hilarious. Almost as hilarious as when the Air Force Security Forces put less-than-lethal claymores (stuffed with rubber balls) on the sides of their vehicles and then let them sit in 120° sun for months: when they fired the rubber balls had fused so they pulled up to a riot and plopped out a bunch of solid rubber bricks then drove off.
I was told by a guy that ran maitenance on a cram that the radar could track 50 cal or 12.7 mm dshk rounds it couldnt hit em but it could see em clearly he said smallest they ever hit was 40mm mortar hit it apmost imediately as it launched... also on boats they regularly lovk onto and track overhead traffic just remember that next time you fly over an ocean a robot probably has your life in its hands and one of those hands is a gau-8 30mm
Ive seen vids of what happens when they leave the CIWS in passive tracking mode under skylanes, nothing more tempting to the intrusive thoughts than a self-aiming chaingun
I moved over to AF Security Forces and, while the shotguns are still around, we do have a lot of other directed energy C-SUAS options as well. Great video, love your stuff.
It’s always interesting to see the solutions we come up with when our bases range from those with lots of resources and funding to those where they’re told “No budget. Just figure it out Jack”.
Good topic of "cuñadeo" as we say in Spain. Let's define what a " drone " is , it can be a Black hornet or an X-37B . So we need a table of size / operating altitude / speed / radar section .
The dome thingy is probably a laser turret similar to what was on the Boeing YAL-1 (ie., let's try and shoot down ICBMs with a multi-megawatt chemical laser built into the spine of a 747) - which basically just uses a few sets of mirrors to bounce the laser from the actual laser inside the vehicle to the focusing optics in the "dome", which then handle fine adjustment to ensure maximum damage on target. At which point the IR beam makes anything on the target that it can ignite burst into flames like a heat ray out of War of the Worlds (not even joking - Wells actually made one of the most accurate depictions of an IR laser weapon in sci-fi roughly 62 years before lasers were invented).
Yup shotguns work, but so do 50 cal and the occasional maxim gun. Was a video last year that the Ukrianians who chainlinked it and it did shot down 7 drones in one night.
For drone use, could we see a rebirth of VADS but using M134 7.62 or perhaps the xm214 in 5.62? Also, can you discuss the functional difference between LPWS and VADS?
If you know the frequency of the C2 link Gaming that will PROBABLY cause it to RTB (return to base/launch site) using GPS for navigation. And jamming GPS will PROBABLY crash the UAV.
The CIWS uses solid sub caliber sabot rounds. Does the Armies system actually use HE? I would be very surprised since there is no proxy fused/programmable 20mm as far as I know.
Had a Chief that was station in Bagdad Green Zone on one that said they used a round that will just exploded into non harmful "dust" so people on the ground down range wouldn't get extra 20mm air holes.
Massed drone attacks may be a real threat if they get the swarm numbers into the thousands because then you may not have enough missiles in the area to shoot them all down even with a 100% PK but that would require an insane amount of computing power for them to all operate together so not likely.
@@habitual_linecrosser I still think it's crazy that the US is using lasers as combat weapons, next thing you know we're going to have infantry equiped with gauss rifles and power armor.
@@Theonlyoneleft1000 For the US yes, for many of our enemies it would be difficult and expensive. China could do it but they would most likley just use missiles as they are more effective.
LOL! my first thought was: 12 gauge! for those little handheld drones, should be fine. i have one, and it won't even stand up to birdshot. more military grade ones might need something with a little more oompf: 00 buck should do.
i am skeptical about laser, it works on paper, but in the process may burn the retinas of all soldier that happen to even vaguely look at the target, add some chrome on that drone to maximize soldier irradiation, and increase survivability. I really think you need a drone to catch a drone, a hobbist drone can be build for less than $300, can fly 5-30 minutes depending how much you push it and payload, multiple G of acceleration, easily reaching 100km/h (60 miles/h)and we saw them already able to drop grenade or suicide. There are very good object detection algorithm that can easily run on the chip used by those drones in standard hobbist flight controller (stm32h7) and has very low error rate and can even track multiple object (one of them is called YOLO), so one could literally create a homing drone with less than a thousand dollar.. and a lot of free time (honestly, some skilled guy in opencv and arducopter may pull it off in a rainy weekend) Also to note that many "swarm" drone are not actually swarm, by swarm the system has to be able to communicate with a centralized "queen" or in a distributed fashion between each other, share information and optimize strategy of engagement.
I share some of your concerns, but I think some of them may be misplaced. I had friends who worked with lasers in school, and they had stories about the slightest contamination causing their ultra high precision, first surface mirrors to overheat and shatter. While chrome plating would offer SOME protection, I would be very surprised if it made any practical difference. Anyone in the area does have to be wary of specular reflection. I don't know of anyway to get around that.
OK first that lasers may hurt soldiers thing yeah no. To actually bounce a laser you need 2 things high reflectivity and a flat surface. If you lack those you will either absorb it which is energy transfer or scatter it which renders it mostly harmless. So as far as danger to soldiers being blinded by reflecting light from drones it is not a realistic concern. Could it happen? Yeah but you can also be struck by lightning right after winning the lottery. Neither is likely what so ever but there is no law of reality that says no. Next on chrome that is a issue that is actually grounded in some reality. Polished chrome can get upwards of 90% ir reflectivity. Issue there is chrome plating is actually pretty expensive. And the bigger issue is you can't really chrome the parts that actually do things. The camera is still destroyable. The propellers will not be chromed so they can still be destroyed. So on and so forth. But that one is still a grounded worry albeit something more likely for specialist drones.
@@spartanonxy I agree that it is not likely to be significant hazard in this application, but I believe that it will be a somewhat greater risk than you do. Different wavelengths of light are will reflect off of surfaces we don't normally consider "good reflectors." If I stand in front of my satin finish stainless steel refrigerator, I cannot make out any discernable reflection. However, when I use an IR camera, I see a very crisp reflection. So far as I understand, most drones this system would target are primarily plastic but with metal bits. Is it likely that one of these bits will bounce enough energy right into someone's eye? Not especially. But it's also a fairly easy thing to protect against.
I just know that there is some bored specialist waiting for that drone to float down to just below shoulder height so they can literally bat it out of the sky. Description of UAS condition, "okay until low level, then it went batty"
Kind of a hard question there are things I can say and others I can't. So for PAC2. Interceptors there is a ball of fragmentation surrounding a small explosive charge can't say how big unfortunately. And as for the PAC3 it hits the target and has things that rip through it causing as much damage as possible. The only explosive onboard is in case you have to self destruct the missile
The wiki says 84 kg blast fragmentation warhead for the PAC-2. For comparison, MIM-23B HAWK missiles have (again, wiki) a 74 kg warhead which includes 14,000 2g performed fragments, leaving about 46 kg for the casing and explosive charge. Proportionally, maybe 32 kg of fragments and 52 kg of explosive and casing, -ish?
Well, if the US have any 88s sitting around in museums, they should still be fairly effective. As a bonus they should also work well enough against Russian tanks currently in use.
Defense from the air - Aircraft: AWACS, EW, laser aircraft, fighters. - drones : drones " with sensors " , drones " armed : machine guns , shotguns , micromissiles , etc ". Emphasis should be put on having drones " polybalent / multirole " and mainly oriented to detect and destroy other drones and their operators or communication link . Ciao .
VERY glad to see US is taking 'slower, higher' recon drones seriously. BUT, what about counters to an FPV with a few oz. of explosives? Racing drones are scary manuverable, multi-mile range at 60+ mph, and cheap. Hobby Lobby-grade stuff with some explosive could do some serious anti personnel damage. Find vids of FPVing through abandoned buildings, and tell me we have a counter.
The coyote drone, because that totally isn’t a looney toons acme reference, I can practically see the wily coyote riding it holding a sign before it goes boom lol
12 ga! If nothing else! Hopefully The New? Coast Guard Cutters still have CIWS on them? From what I've seen, the new stuff DON'T HAVE THE COMBAT CAPABILITIES! of THE HAMILTON CLASS? LOVED THE CHASE! She had Missiles, torpedoes! 76mm/62cal Main Gun! 25mm Auto Cannons! And the Beloved 50's! NEW stuff, NOT so much!? SEMPER PERATUS! at my age? After a Couple cups of coffee!
Don’t give away too much information about our defensive capabilities (that shock and awesomeness “oh no you didn’t “ has been a great deterrent to those who think they can just come in and play their stupid games). Great insight
Honestly I like the option that allows me to take something down, liberate it from the other guy, slap my name on it and turn around against them but sure horribly mangling it is fun to watch.
But if they put in speakers and sound fx, the privates couldn't make the sounds with their mouths and thoroughly annoy their sergeants. And that would ruin it for everyone. From the officer anally taking the whole thing way to seriously and over reacting, the sargeants opportunity to chew out the private in question, and finally the privates fun in being able to initiate the whole thing fully knowing their lieutenant was going to completely lose his shit. lol
Falsetto voice "pew, pew pew, pew" with each trigger pull. 🤣 Lasers would be terrifying. Imagine warming a polycarbonate bubble canopy to it's deforming temp in a 450kt breeze. 😬 Clamshell packaging, but for fighter pilots.
Fun fact theyre usually only loaded with 200 round belts to prevent overkill in excess, but that also means they burn through it in 2.6 seconds I think the ground based phalanx might have a higher reserve, but i could be wrong. All i know is I'd hate to be the operator having to reload it during an attack
"Uncle Sam is bringing strikers with frikkin laser beams" -- So how familiar are you with Navy drones? I s**t you not, they recently retired their fleet of flying killer robot sharks with frikkin' lasers on their heads. FireScout RQ-8A / MQ-8B. Completely broke my sense of "this is too weird to exist". Replaced them last year with something that looks more like a bug, or you usual civilian helicopter.
1:40 `The UAE was shooting down $200 drones with $2.5M Patriot missiles. Just go ahead and flex that oil money.` 😳🤣 `That's like exchanging a gold for a copper` Shiki to Makoto Misumi ~ a line from Moonlit Fantasy anime, episode 10. 💀
What about jamming the frequencys bettween drone and controller bonus if disconnected the drine will return home and bang send in patriot missile take out a drone squad what i want to see is thousands of drones together with c4 packs on them with facial recognition send them out into the feild to kill targets that woukd be crazy
This is US military hardware we're talking about. Minimum 50k, for a 50mm speaker that just repeats "LASER ACTIVE" in a monotone voice. Bump it up to 100k for the licensed phaser sound effect from Paramount/CBS. EACH.
I hate that I know I’m being baited with the “Phasers from Star Wars” bit, but I can’t help myself anyway. Haha, love the content!
Laugh all you want..... when Starbuck ain't around to save you from the Klingons attacking in their Vorlon ships..... you and all your friends will be down at the local train station running head first into pylons trying to find your way to the secret platform to take you to the Lylat system to find Samus to save you!
To be bait, he had to know, and we all know that he knows
I began to twitch the moment he said it.
Star wars, ha. Star Trek is superior, especially that Han solo guy.
@@Iamthelolrus He's from Stargate, not Star Trek. Easy mistake to make.
Yeah, I’m sorry if I was an operator with a laser on top of my vehicle, there would definitely be a trigger wire connected to a relay connected to a microphone set up with a continuous phaser beam sound from Star Trek or Star Wars. It would be very simple to do.
And for reasons like that we need you to enlist today
@@habitual_linecrosser already done four years in the Navy on a submarine, and then two years army national guard as a 13 bravo
@@habitual_linecrosser and thank you for your service
Lexus and BMW have to pipe simulated engine sound into the cabin to make people feel like they got their money's worth. So there is precedent.
But if my experience working near RF and high voltage equipment is any gauge, the generator will rev up to meet the electrical demand, and the transformers will buzz like angry bees. Not satisfying but something.
And if the claymore is any indicator, they will probably have to put a strobe and a siren on the think to tell dismounts it is firing.
@@jonathanbmcdonald9245thank both of you.
"If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid" That's my new motto.
I'm Canadian but hearing about the weapon systems my southern neighbours come up with always make me smile.
My father was part of the Phalanx/Ciws team over at Raytheon (or as he called it Uncle Ray's Missle Barn) and I do have to inform you of one important upgrade the army version got when importing the weapon from the navy. The Navy version fires massive bullets that rip apart into tiny bullets that move super fast. However this dumps a lot of metal bits around the area which works better in the Ocean than in the middle of a base/town. So the Army solution was to make the bullets explosive so al lof that debris turns to ash etc. before landing.
TLDR: The army Phalanx uses explosive bullets for safety!
How to defend against drones from the ground
- Infantry on foot : shotguns ( AA12 ) with depleted uranium pellets , the XM-25 , EW .
- Vehicles : laser , microwave , APKWS , AA 30mm cannons and you have to weigh the 75mm , 127mm , 155mm with laser guidance systems , AA missiles , EW .
why uranium pellets when bird shoot will do the trick on most drone that fly that low
@@lesto12321 cause uranium pellets sounds cooler.
@Matthew Frank you can carry uranium shot next to ur nuts in your pocket. Ill just carry birdshot thank you
Half of this comment deserves to be on non-credible defense reddit post.
@@matthewfrank2498 cause uranium pellets sounds cooler.
There's quite a few systems out there that take out drones. You really only mentioned a small portion of them. LMADIS is personally my favorite because it counters the "small and cheap" drones (like quadcopters) that people like to worry about. It's an even cheaper system than M-Shorad, usuing a Polaris that took too much protein powder as one of the chasis. LMADIS also has a version fixed to a JLTV which has a machine gun attached to engage kinetically and a static version that is mounted on a tripod.
It's really funny that people claim the west is lacking capability without doing any research to see if there actually is a capability gap.
Thanks for giving them information.
I think one good thing for every infantry platoon leader or platoon sergeant to have would be a simple device that can passively scan for the signals that go between a drone and it's operator. Just something they can keep on their wrist, like a Garmin. Actually getting a distance, altitude, and heading for the drone might be a little more difficult (at that point, it's asking for an AESA Radar system that's serviceable by an infantry platoon), but just being able to detect if a drone is within a kilometer of you could be really useful.
They actually have a 'rifle' with a several km range that will overwhelm and scramble the drones control frequency and literally force it to land just aim and pull the trigger line of sight and speed of light. Aliexpress sells the Chinese version with a 2 km range for about $3000 to anyone. I imagine the dept of mad scientists (DARPA) already has come up with an even better soldier portable set up
@@michaelmclaughlin2663 The concern here is detection. The biggest trouble with quadrotor drones is the fact that against the backdrop of the sky, they're difficult to detect visually or audibly. Electronically, it'd be incredibly easy.
I got a chuckle from "and gave it a tan"
The laser zippy zappy thing is ok but I like boom then partials raining down. Bunch of us backwoods peeps would love to give it a go with 12 and 20 pews with sights =).
Yessir
Photon torpedo sound for each laser shot
agree! some sort of sound. :-)
"phasers from Star Wars": When I did detainee ops in Iraq, the guard towers had less-than-lethal microwave guns that had a "pew pew pew pew" sound added (like Plan 9 From Outer Space special effects) so we could tell when they were firing. It was hilarious.
Almost as hilarious as when the Air Force Security Forces put less-than-lethal claymores (stuffed with rubber balls) on the sides of their vehicles and then let them sit in 120° sun for months: when they fired the rubber balls had fused so they pulled up to a riot and plopped out a bunch of solid rubber bricks then drove off.
I was told by a guy that ran maitenance on a cram that the radar could track 50 cal or 12.7 mm dshk rounds it couldnt hit em but it could see em clearly he said smallest they ever hit was 40mm mortar hit it apmost imediately as it launched... also on boats they regularly lovk onto and track overhead traffic just remember that next time you fly over an ocean a robot probably has your life in its hands and one of those hands is a gau-8 30mm
Ive seen vids of what happens when they leave the CIWS in passive tracking mode under skylanes, nothing more tempting to the intrusive thoughts than a self-aiming chaingun
Hands down, favorite new find on TH-cam
It was given a one-way ticket to oblivion. Also, love the Dr. Evil reference.
great videos ,,,, thanks keep them coming !!!!!!!
Thank you again for the education.
I worked on the designs for the Perry class frigates. I loved the CIWS system... .
I moved over to AF Security Forces and, while the shotguns are still around, we do have a lot of other directed energy C-SUAS options as well. Great video, love your stuff.
It’s always interesting to see the solutions we come up with when our bases range from those with lots of resources and funding to those where they’re told “No budget. Just figure it out Jack”.
thank yo.beautiful video.mr~👋
Thank you for the support 🙏
One good thing about find a channel like yours after it's been around for a bit already, The Bindgeing!
Good topic of "cuñadeo" as we say in Spain.
Let's define what a " drone " is , it can be a Black hornet or an X-37B .
So we need a table of size / operating altitude / speed / radar section .
We have that in the army it's classes
Instead of phasers you can play the A10 BBBRRR sound
The dome thingy is probably a laser turret similar to what was on the Boeing YAL-1 (ie., let's try and shoot down ICBMs with a multi-megawatt chemical laser built into the spine of a 747) - which basically just uses a few sets of mirrors to bounce the laser from the actual laser inside the vehicle to the focusing optics in the "dome", which then handle fine adjustment to ensure maximum damage on target.
At which point the IR beam makes anything on the target that it can ignite burst into flames like a heat ray out of War of the Worlds (not even joking - Wells actually made one of the most accurate depictions of an IR laser weapon in sci-fi roughly 62 years before lasers were invented).
"phaser sounds"
Dude. Take my money.
But points deducted for saying Star Wars.
I'm glad the Army appreciates the CWIS. Damn fine system. Enjoy.
"Wait is diesel even legal there?"
You got me fucked up lmao
"If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid."
Love it.
I am so glad it is on our team
Today I learned the show Squidbillies was somewhat accurate on how to deal with drones.
Driving around a tarmack shooting at drones with 12 gauges. Sign me up for that job.
So the coyote drone is basically a buckshot missile?
Yup shotguns work, but so do 50 cal and the occasional maxim gun. Was a video last year that the Ukrianians who chainlinked it and it did shot down 7 drones in one night.
For drone use, could we see a rebirth of VADS but using M134 7.62 or perhaps the xm214 in 5.62? Also, can you discuss the functional difference between LPWS and VADS?
If you know the frequency of the C2 link Gaming that will PROBABLY cause it to RTB (return to base/launch site) using GPS for navigation.
And jamming GPS will PROBABLY crash the UAV.
"Phaser sounds from Star Wars"... I can't even, lol
The CIWS uses solid sub caliber sabot rounds. Does the Armies system actually use HE? I would be very surprised since there is no proxy fused/programmable 20mm as far as I know.
Had a Chief that was station in Bagdad Green Zone on one that said they used a round that will just exploded into non harmful "dust" so people on the ground down range wouldn't get extra 20mm air holes.
@@earnestbrown6524 Also useful to get maximum energy Transfer at impact.
Love your stuff man
Ever since I was a kid the warthog was my favorite weapon BRRRRRTTTT. Now it's C-ram. Frickin love that psychopath
R2d2 with a hard on..
Awesome.
Massed drone attacks may be a real threat if they get the swarm numbers into the thousands because then you may not have enough missiles in the area to shoot them all down even with a 100% PK but that would require an insane amount of computing power for them to all operate together so not likely.
Exactly but also some of the systems like an LPWS can really handle a lot
@@habitual_linecrosser I still think it's crazy that the US is using lasers as combat weapons, next thing you know we're going to have infantry equiped with gauss rifles and power armor.
We've been able to track every moving object in a city since the 90s
A thousand drone drone swarm is child's play
@@Theonlyoneleft1000 For the US yes, for many of our enemies it would be difficult and expensive. China could do it but they would most likley just use missiles as they are more effective.
I mean for something so dire one could always look to the past and pull out an AIR-2. After all if everything is fucked, may as well be on your terms.
How to defend against drones:
Be good at skeet shooting.
The striker is 2 flavors then... Zappy zaps, or Dakka dakka. Fun
LOL! my first thought was: 12 gauge! for those little handheld drones, should be fine. i have one, and it won't even stand up to birdshot. more military grade ones might need something with a little more oompf: 00 buck should do.
Wonder if those 20mm explosive rounds come in air burst or just impact fuse(are they fused?)
Entertaining education!!
i am skeptical about laser, it works on paper, but in the process may burn the retinas of all soldier that happen to even vaguely look at the target, add some chrome on that drone to maximize soldier irradiation, and increase survivability.
I really think you need a drone to catch a drone, a hobbist drone can be build for less than $300, can fly 5-30 minutes depending how much you push it and payload, multiple G of acceleration, easily reaching 100km/h (60 miles/h)and we saw them already able to drop grenade or suicide.
There are very good object detection algorithm that can easily run on the chip used by those drones in standard hobbist flight controller (stm32h7) and has very low error rate and can even track multiple object (one of them is called YOLO), so one could literally create a homing drone with less than a thousand dollar.. and a lot of free time (honestly, some skilled guy in opencv and arducopter may pull it off in a rainy weekend)
Also to note that many "swarm" drone are not actually swarm, by swarm the system has to be able to communicate with a centralized "queen" or in a distributed fashion between each other, share information and optimize strategy of engagement.
I share some of your concerns, but I think some of them may be misplaced. I had friends who worked with lasers in school, and they had stories about the slightest contamination causing their ultra high precision, first surface mirrors to overheat and shatter. While chrome plating would offer SOME protection, I would be very surprised if it made any practical difference.
Anyone in the area does have to be wary of specular reflection. I don't know of anyway to get around that.
OK first that lasers may hurt soldiers thing yeah no. To actually bounce a laser you need 2 things high reflectivity and a flat surface. If you lack those you will either absorb it which is energy transfer or scatter it which renders it mostly harmless. So as far as danger to soldiers being blinded by reflecting light from drones it is not a realistic concern. Could it happen? Yeah but you can also be struck by lightning right after winning the lottery. Neither is likely what so ever but there is no law of reality that says no.
Next on chrome that is a issue that is actually grounded in some reality. Polished chrome can get upwards of 90% ir reflectivity. Issue there is chrome plating is actually pretty expensive. And the bigger issue is you can't really chrome the parts that actually do things. The camera is still destroyable. The propellers will not be chromed so they can still be destroyed. So on and so forth. But that one is still a grounded worry albeit something more likely for specialist drones.
@@spartanonxy I agree that it is not likely to be significant hazard in this application, but I believe that it will be a somewhat greater risk than you do. Different wavelengths of light are will reflect off of surfaces we don't normally consider "good reflectors." If I stand in front of my satin finish stainless steel refrigerator, I cannot make out any discernable reflection. However, when I use an IR camera, I see a very crisp reflection.
So far as I understand, most drones this system would target are primarily plastic but with metal bits. Is it likely that one of these bits will bounce enough energy right into someone's eye? Not especially. But it's also a fairly easy thing to protect against.
As for counter drones, the video explicitly mentioned the “Coyote Drone” system… which may be more than $300, but not necessarily by much.
I just know that there is some bored specialist waiting for that drone to float down to just below shoulder height so they can literally bat it out of the sky. Description of UAS condition, "okay until low level, then it went batty"
We love things that go brrrrt
Is r2d2 what Israel use for David’s sling or which ever one there low level rocket protection is
Until every squad has an jammer rifle, I'm gonna say that no, we are absolutely not ready at all.
2:57 *need to. I know why I want to. I also know I don’t need to.
Didn't Raytheon Publicly demonstrate a HUMV plaforrm energy weapon based anti-UAV system also just like 2 months ago? Small compact, extremely mobile.
It is in the name! Directed Energy Weapons should make DEW DEW DEW sounds when fired! 😂
Hey hlc just curious if you can say what's the average warhead for the patriot look like in terms of charge weight or yield?
Kind of a hard question there are things I can say and others I can't. So for PAC2. Interceptors there is a ball of fragmentation surrounding a small explosive charge can't say how big unfortunately. And as for the PAC3 it hits the target and has things that rip through it causing as much damage as possible. The only explosive onboard is in case you have to self destruct the missile
The wiki says 84 kg blast fragmentation warhead for the PAC-2. For comparison, MIM-23B HAWK missiles have (again, wiki) a 74 kg warhead which includes 14,000 2g performed fragments, leaving about 46 kg for the casing and explosive charge. Proportionally, maybe 32 kg of fragments and 52 kg of explosive and casing, -ish?
Well, if the US have any 88s sitting around in museums, they should still be fairly effective. As a bonus they should also work well enough against Russian tanks currently in use.
We use Rienmetal cannons for our Abrams,which are direct decendants of the 88's.
Defense from the air
- Aircraft: AWACS, EW, laser aircraft, fighters.
- drones : drones " with sensors " , drones " armed : machine guns , shotguns , micromissiles , etc ".
Emphasis should be put on having drones " polybalent / multirole " and mainly oriented to detect and destroy other drones and their operators or communication link . Ciao .
VERY glad to see US is taking 'slower, higher' recon drones seriously. BUT, what about counters to an FPV with a few oz. of explosives? Racing drones are scary manuverable, multi-mile range at 60+ mph, and cheap.
Hobby Lobby-grade stuff with some explosive could do some serious anti personnel damage.
Find vids of FPVing through abandoned buildings, and tell me we have a counter.
The 12 gauge idea is easy and practical.
and FUN.
Lattice counter drone system, Roadrunner, Roadrunner-M & L-MADIS. When will US develop Drone Dome?
"If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid."
They really need to add speakers X) Use the sound effect from C&C Generals
Can't wait to see the California Compliant C-RAM.
Army is going to have to figure out how to make that thing bolt action.
US Military equipment is exempt from State level stuff, stop spreading FUD.
I can make a beer can dance in the air while unloading my shotgun into it and it never touches the ground. We’re ready. 😂
Not to mention many many many Americans are sitting around with a closet full of battle rattle just waiting for an excuse.
The coyote drone, because that totally isn’t a looney toons acme reference, I can practically see the wily coyote riding it holding a sign before it goes boom lol
lmao. Now I got that image in my head.
How about some love for the older systems that we don't use anymore like the old VADS/PIVADS system chaparral
12 ga! If nothing else!
Hopefully The New? Coast Guard Cutters still have CIWS on them? From what I've seen, the new stuff DON'T HAVE THE COMBAT CAPABILITIES! of THE HAMILTON CLASS? LOVED THE CHASE! She had Missiles, torpedoes! 76mm/62cal Main Gun!
25mm Auto Cannons! And the Beloved 50's! NEW stuff, NOT so much!?
SEMPER PERATUS! at my age?
After a Couple cups of coffee!
"now i don't know why you'd mount a knife missile to it"
because i like it *personal.*
They are going to need to fill the Striker tires with concrete to keep that thing upright.
We should outfit the entire American Semi Fleet with CRAMs and then we have those all over the country at any given time
Whenever I hear phasers from Star Wars my little nerd brain goes "FFFFfffffFfFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" Explosion
3:31 "Phaser sounds from star wars" you just pissed of a lot of people with stament
Don’t give away too much information about our defensive capabilities (that shock and awesomeness “oh no you didn’t “ has been a great deterrent to those who think they can just come in and play their stupid games). Great insight
The Coyote drone...because it blows itself up? That'd be golden.
Never forget OPSEC. Just cause we are out, doesn't mean we can't damage our country with our (sometimes dated) information.
Honestly I like the option that allows me to take something down, liberate it from the other guy, slap my name on it and turn around against them but sure horribly mangling it is fun to watch.
The 12 gauge method aka "we used to train ball gunners like this."
Is the army actually operating the CRAM? My brother was a CWIS operator in the navy, he got sent to iraq to operate them back in the day.
Love the drones set up to return home. You jam their signal and they go home. You then follow them, and blow up the baddy
But if they put in speakers and sound fx, the privates couldn't make the sounds with their mouths and thoroughly annoy their sergeants. And that would ruin it for everyone. From the officer anally taking the whole thing way to seriously and over reacting, the sargeants opportunity to chew out the private in question, and finally the privates fun in being able to initiate the whole thing fully knowing their lieutenant was going to completely lose his shit. lol
Falsetto voice "pew, pew pew, pew" with each trigger pull. 🤣
Lasers would be terrifying. Imagine warming a polycarbonate bubble canopy to it's deforming temp in a 450kt breeze. 😬 Clamshell packaging, but for fighter pilots.
Bro, can the infantry carry them 12 gauges for drones? That shit sounds fun
I kinda like the echo
Depends on altitude .
There's half a dozen more systems that aren't mentioned in this video for anyone who's interested.
CRAM deleting in a direction... in a disturbing hail of metal and tracers. 👀
"**disgruntled sigh**... is it really too much to have phaser sounds from star wars?"
Starts handing out Mossberg 500’s
Well I have a 12 gauge shotgun with birdshot so I’m ready lol
I fucking jumped when the 75rps thing opened fire
That shits scary
Fun fact theyre usually only loaded with 200 round belts to prevent overkill in excess, but that also means they burn through it in 2.6 seconds
I think the ground based phalanx might have a higher reserve, but i could be wrong. All i know is I'd hate to be the operator having to reload it during an attack
😂😂😂😂 if it's stupid but it works it ain't stupid😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
If we have a drone war, I kno a few pilots who would love to get down!
"Uncle Sam is bringing strikers with frikkin laser beams" -- So how familiar are you with Navy drones? I s**t you not, they recently retired their fleet of flying killer robot sharks with frikkin' lasers on their heads.
FireScout RQ-8A / MQ-8B. Completely broke my sense of "this is too weird to exist". Replaced them last year with something that looks more like a bug, or you usual civilian helicopter.
1:40 `The UAE was shooting down $200 drones with $2.5M Patriot missiles. Just go ahead and flex that oil money.` 😳🤣
`That's like exchanging a gold for a copper` Shiki to Makoto Misumi ~ a line from Moonlit Fantasy anime, episode 10. 💀
What about jamming the frequencys bettween drone and controller bonus if disconnected the drine will return home and bang send in patriot missile take out a drone squad what i want to see is thousands of drones together with c4 packs on them with facial recognition send them out into the feild to kill targets that woukd be crazy
Just bring back the grape shot for artillary
I've been saying this, but why not make a modern day punt gun for this?!?! Save tons of money.
Merica!!!
Why wouldn't you knife missile it?
How much would a military grade "Pew pew pew" sound generator cost?
This is US military hardware we're talking about. Minimum 50k, for a 50mm speaker that just repeats "LASER ACTIVE" in a monotone voice. Bump it up to 100k for the licensed phaser sound effect from Paramount/CBS. EACH.