As someone who has worked in, how shall I put this, "secret squirrel" environments I have to appreciate the skilful way you avoided and skirted around those areas that would have you looking at sharing accommodations with 9 other men in a 10' x 30' room if you misspoke. well done.
It's also usally attached to a warship, and a heavy shore systems. Like said, size and power...and theirs not much limit on that when you not have to account for a ground veichle. You can make way way bigger and use many times as much electrical power.
@@BlitzFromBehind only if you’re talking about Greek shields. When referring to Advanced Electronic Guided Interceptor System, maybe not so much. But thanks for the spelling lesson in the middle of an ADA discussion
Thank you for that public release breakdown. I didn't know the low fidelity issue with the S-300/400 series and am glad to know it. I bet the jammers on some F-35s could overwhelm it right quick. I have an 11B background so it is good to see another vet talk about the systems they trained on and used, especially when I know damn little about it.
The US has S-300 in our possession for full exploitation and forecasted upgrade exploitation, just like we did with MiG-29 and Su-27. S-300 performance is great against Russian and Ukrainian aircraft, if you don’t mind the IFF not working. Russia shot down 4 of their own aircraft in one day recently, including another Su-35, which has their latest and greatest avionics in any of their operational fighters. Israelis, US, and UK have been defeating S-300s over Syria for years now. S-400 is meant for ballistic missile defense and bombers primarily.
The “jammers” on all F-35s are the AESA Radars. The F-35’s AESA has high-capability to jam other Radars. As soon as the USMC started getting operational squadron F-35Bs, they retired their EA-6B prowlers, after the F-35B pilots took as many lessons they could from the Prowler community. Also notice that the USAF did not replace the EF-111A with a new offensive EW platform because the F-22A was coming online. There was a brief gap where the USAF relied on USN EA-6Bs during the war in Yugoslavia, which were not able to fly the night the F-117A was shot down. F-35s have more EW capability than legacy EW platforms because they can’t be detected until within visual range basically, meaning trey can bring their jamming arrays within very close distances to threat emitters. A Stealth jamming aircraft is a very insidious combination, especially when that aircraft can also deliver precision munitions and share networked sensor-fused data about all the threats it sees with other F-35s. Additionally, F-35s bring a new cyber-attack capability that has not existed before.
@@showtime1004 Any 4th Gen platform that can carry decoy missiles and employ them against IADS can confuse S300 and S400, although S-400 is meant for long range intercepts of incoming ICBMs and bombers. S-300 is more of a tactical system for intercepting fighters and cruise missiles. The US was employing decoy missiles from fighters in Desert Storm over 32 years ago, and now has given them to Ukraine. Ukrainian Su-24s have been upgraded to carry the Storm Shadow missile, so when these 2 types of systems are used together (decoy missiles and Storm Shadow), S-300 is screwed.
Need more AEGIS!! I live near a Lockheed facility that does a lot with AEGIS and I've always been fascinated by the system. I get a lot of my information from declassified stuff they give out to recruit potential engineers. Just piecing together what was classified in the 90s and early 00s says a lot about American Air defense systems.
Phased arrays are not going anywhere. there are so many ways that electronic beam steering is so much vastly better than mechanical I never see mechanical ever dominating the radar scene again.(with the possible exception of long range and relatively low resolution search radar. Those will still probably be a big rotating "hyperbolic parabaloid" (That is what they called the shape and said it is saddle like. I disagree, it does not look like a saddle. Just look for a large and fairly slowly rotating shaped kind of like a smooshed oval that has been bent forward on both ends, that is a hyperbolic paraboloid. Anyway for long range radar I suspect those aren't going anywhere . Also the aegis system used to (I don't know it it still does) hand off from the phased array to a conventional mechanical track radar when actually firing a missile at a target. I was not a aegis guy but I suspect that this was due to technical issues with trying to keep the hard continuous beam on the object that you are trying to shoot down and the super neato 360 view of the battlespace at the same time using the system as it was designed. Incidentally when you watch movies where the pilot hears a solid buzzing or long beeping noise and starts getting excited yelling about "SAM Inbound" or something like that. It is his electronics warfare package has detected a continuous beam on them which means that you are either being painted by or for a missile. Either way break hard and fast or you are going to be confetti in a couple of seconds. You can also hear this in the famous footage from a F 16 that dodged 6 Iraqi sams over the course of as many minutes. You can hear that as well as hear what a pilot really sounds like when he is dodging for his life under high G forces. Including a very impressive "OH SHHHHI..." that is cut off as you see his G force indicater rocket past 6 Gs and his afterburner indicator light up. It turns out that you can't really scream at 6 Gs. Still 6 sams dodged. That speaks well of both the pilot and the plane.
@@Snipergoat1You won't know you're being targeted by the Patriot until it's too late and there's not a damned thing you can do except eject because that missile is going to bias its impact on the cockpit and it will kill you. Flare. Chaff. Breaking hard all you want. If you don't eject immediately, you're dead. Period.
14:21 To be honest, I feel like the United States is doing a pretty damned good job of asserting its position at the top of the food chain with what we’ve been letting the Ukrainians play around with, as well as the capabilities we’ve been giving them the means to manufacture on their own. With them getting a single patriot system, I genuinely feel like it’s going to make China take a whole other step back in their plans for Taiwan, just as the beginning of the Ukrainian war did. Make no mistake, the United States owns the sky, it owns the night, and it doesn’t take very long having those two spaces in our possession to own the ground that the sun rises on in the morning. Btw, love the videos man, love the format, and I especially loved your convo with Animarchy. Just killer shit all the way around.
That's a primary reason to support Ukraine that *is* a direct national interest of the United States. You automatically "win" the war you *don't* have to fight because the woild-be aggressor is deterred by your capabilities and never starts the war. As the philosopher Will Smith said, *"Don't start none, won't BE none."*
I'm sure the US convinced people we were the top dog when The US became the country that can park a nimitz class supercarrier right in your driveway when you Annoy the US enough
Ukraine has been a live fire weapons demonstration of the US vs Russia. But Russia is also a warning. Russia is an example of corruption run amuck. We need to get a handle on the corruption we have here at home. It's nowhere near as much as Russia, but it's obvious how devastating it can be to the populace of a nation.
It's something that I love to push into Z-shithead's faces: Ukraine has received a wild mishmash of NATO hand-me-downs, some decade old systems like the Gepard, some top shelf stuff like the Patriot and a whole metric shitton of stuff in bewteen. And every single piece of equippement performed above and beyond expectations. The Gepard, for instance, works great to shoot down Shahed drones, making it exceptionally cheap to shoot down these drones... and the Gepard is ancient by modern standards. The Patriot system swats Kinzhals from the sky like it was nothing, and that's only a small number of systems, not even the most modern ones or the full range of available missile types. Modern NATO artillery is fucking up anything close to the frontline, anything further away is getting turned into swiss cheese by HIMARS and the Storm Shadow has taught the Russians that the Dildo of Consequences won't be lubed up before use. Ukraine receives small numbers of, for lack of a better word, basic weapon systems, some fancy stuff like ATACMS are still off the table _and Russia is getting its ass kicked seven ways from sunday with just that._ Meanwhile, every single Russian wonder weapon was a giant nothingburger. A far cry from similar Western systems. The US is supporting Ukraine with unfathomable amounts of ammo, weapons, supplies on a monthly basis and the US hasn't even had to enter war-time production to keep up with the demands. Just think about how _scary_ that is to its enemies: The USA has not yet even begun to play serious, and is already delivering enough stuff to Ukraine to slap Russia's shit rather devisively.
@@geodkyt Starship troopers (the book not the movie) addresses this actually. You don't always have to fight and destroy your enemy, you just have to hit the enemy so hard and fast they recognize that you could destroy them.
I was a 14-E from 2005-2011. Brother, you have no idea how good it is to hear someone who KNOWS what they are talking about, and has the ability to explain it to the lamen. Keep em coming bro. I am just sad I have only recently found you through the shorts.
You were recommended to me by Alex from Sand boxx... He was right about you... Your content is really good and accurate Keep doing what you’re doing, ur channel is going to grow pretty soon and it’s gonna be one of the biggest
It's always nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. One thing I think is important to keep in mind when reading specs of these systems (especially for those of us just reading stuff online without professional experience to put this into context) is that most 'specs' are not as simple as a single number. A radar system's range for example: there's a difference between detecting the existence of an object and getting a lock on it. Stealth doesn't need to prevent detection to prevent targeting. Similarly, RCS depends on frequency of radar used etc. Even assuming Russia's published figures are accurate (which is a pretty big assumption) there's not enough nuance in the headline figures to simulate an engagement.
Too many people get the two confused. Just because you see something the size of a humming bird flying March 1.3, doesn't mean you can shot it down. All to often people point the the F-117 nighthawk that was shot down. That was never a complete plan. It was a proof of concept that was fielded into production. It required support electronic warfare planes to operate.
Assume nothing with Russia. They are the same country that brought ICBMs back to the start of a parade, painted on new numbers, and rolled them back through. If they don’t show it, they don’t have it.
Announced specs get so twisted & muddied in manipulative verbage that you may as well as well sit back a while to wait for the verifiable sources. That may be a fair bit of waiting as well, but it's better than getting burned badly. You're spot on.
It's because the Russian weebs that want Russia to win gobble Putin and his Defense Ministry's word like it's the gospel. Everytime Russia opens its mouth the US can prove 3 times over how they're incompetent liars.
@@Morally_Immoral2 Patriot had a pretty poor record in Desert Storm. Aside from the fratricide incidents, it had about a 50/50 success rate against the Scuds that Iraq fired (single missile average success rates, obviously we can fire more than one to improve the odds, and we did). The issue with applying that spotty record to today is that was Patriot PAC-1, which has about as much in common with the current PAC-3 and PAC-2 GEM+ families as S-400 has with S-300. The reputation issue has also been exacerbated by the fact the Saudis have been the most prolific user of the system since Desert Storm, and they had a couple of high-profile failures with the system: one where an interceptor missile circled and killed civilians, and the other where 6 full Patriot batteries didn't even detect, never mind engage, the incoming drones and cruise missiles that struck their oil facilities. With the benefit of hindsight (and experience in Ukraine) it's pretty clearly a case of them just sucking in particular, but at the time nobody knew better, and so the narrative spread.
When Aegis first came out pilots used to joke that if you flew too close to it you produce FLKs from all the energy coming out of that system. You might ask what an FLK is. I'm glad you asked, it means you produce funny-looking kids. As in chromosome damage. You know missing limbs that kind of thing.
@@LRRPFco52it fucks up mammals that live in the ocean and have ears. At least the high power systems do. So like whales and dolphins. It doesn’t both fish etc, they don’t really have ears. It doesn’t kill outright but a whale or dolphin that can’t hear its own sonar because it’s ears got blown out are 100% going to die eventually if they can’t heal before they starve.
@@LRRPFco52😂 that is how you deal with diver's! Also shock waves from explosion are just sound waves, do you need papers that proves that bombs kill things?
As glad I found your channel. As an AFATDS for 6 years this shit gets me excited. Thank you for your continued service. I started out with the M198 fielded the M777 and finished with the M101.
Ive heard that term before. 'Frequency hopping' 1940's acttress Hedy Lamarr with the American composer George Antheil came up with an extraordinary new communication system used with the intention of guiding torpedoes to their targets in war. The system involved the use of “frequency hopping” amongst radio waves, with both transmitter and receiver hopping to new frequencies together. Doing so prevented the interception of the radio waves, thereby allowing the torpedo to find its intended target. After its creation, Lamarr and Antheil sought a patent and military support for the invention. While awarded U.S. Patent No. 2,292,387 in August of 1942
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877es. She would have been extremely rich if the FBI had not disrupted the patent. It's used in cellphones and many many other applications.
Awesome, I am a former Stinger Gunner and Avenger Crew member, I enlisted into active duty in 1992, and I was stationed at Fort Polk and the new JRTC in La. I trained to fight Soviet doctrine and American Doctrine. went to a few Vulcan Gunneries and trained on the Hawk when we got to my unit. Ahhh, ADA. Transferred to the infantry, retired out due to being combat wounded from Afghanistan. I can only imagine the new Kit. Kinda Jelly, but then again, retirement! Keep it up! Climb to Glory!
Hey from Israel. Great video, i like a guy of Air-defense that knows what he's talking about. Why people compare Iron dome to Patriot? 2 different roles systems, Iron dome is a C-RAM while Patriot covers so many other threats (TBM,ABT,TBM,CM and more...) As far as i can tell, Israel defense force are using David sling and Patriot PAC-2 for backup, these systems works below the Arrow-2 and 3. Great to see videos like yours, making a lot of sense of this important subject. Take care.
It's because people are comparing the concept of interception over the exact system specificities. It's one of those "Go with what they mean, and not what they say" on the subject.
People are just referencing the most well-known systems. Comparing Patriot to Iron Dome is like comparing an F-35 to a Switchblade drone. They’re both very good for their intended purposes, but those purposes are very different. PAC-2 is really more of an anti-aircraft missile with upgrades, software, and sensors that give it some anti-ballistic missile capabilities. But it will always be limited because the missile body itself it wasn’t built to intercept missiles. That’s why the PAC-3 was designed. It is much smaller, faster, and more maneuverable than the PAC-2 missile, and was designed from the ground up to intercept ballistic missiles. And it has been a stunning success in its first real action in Ukraine (the Saudis only had PAC-2). I suspect that the collaboration between Israel and the US on David’s Sling, etc. also involved the design of the PAC-3.
Only recently found your channel but as someone who's parents help build these systems, it's great to hear your option on how effective these systems can be
I think you made a really good point about them being different philosophies. tbh based on what we know I’m willing to bet they’d be extremely strong if we somehow integrated them together.
In the USAF I worked on the computer that ran the SLBM (sea-launched ballistic missile) radar. I worked at two different sites. Our radar was putting out about 1.5 megawatts. It used a sixty-foot parabolic ant. We could track a 1-meter satellite at 960 nautical miles. This was in the 70's in the 80's it was replaced with a phased array radar. I saw a briefing on the new system but never worked on it. The system was in a six-story building and the array covered about half the top part of the face of the building. They said it would cover about 200 degs.
Great information! I was a medic, but now I know more than every before about incepting MRBMs, and ICBMs. There a lot of "SMALL" people on the web that think better of themselves by correcting slightest misspeak or piece of information that disagrees with the ten minute article they just online. Keep up the good work. The vast majority of us appreciate it. A lot!
You were a medic, I was not. Why in the hell would I ever try to imply I knew more than you ? That's some fukkin stupid ass shit. I don't understand why people do this kind of stuff. It's really bizarre dude. I was in the infantry a long time ago, so I appreciate the hell out of medics. They're some incredibly creative folks when circumstances require rapid ingenuity. Respect from 🇨🇦
I don't understand what you're getting at. My remarks were meant to complement HLC for the information he puts out in this and in many of his other videos. And to express my disapproval of people who seem to have nothing more to do with their lives than pick at minor miss-speaks and minor errors in videos that people like HLC take the time to do. Glaring mistakes are one thing. But all the nitpicking that goes on, on the internet, gets annoying after a while. I don't think I addressed my comments to you. Lastly, I appreciate the respect! And like you I was in a long time ago in a hot bug-infested smelly country,.@@badgermacleod5588
As someone who has ran TDAs such as Builder and AREPS, i love hearing you talk about these things, cause it makes it easier to realize that my wprk actually meant something.
One of the key advantages the Aegis system has over literally every other air defense system is CEC (Cooperative Enagement Capability), which creates a science fiction level synthetic holistic picture of the battlespace that can tie together multiple *non fire control quality tracks* into a consolidated data point that *is* a fire control grade track... and then pass that data so that *any* CEC equipped Aegis platform can fire the mission just as accurately as any other platform - even if the firing platform has exactly *no* visibility on the target. And no, this isnt the same as lofting a laser guided weapon over a hill and having it pick up the spot being lased by the snake eaters on the other side. The launching platform is guiding the weapon to the target the entire time with a level of fidelity high enough for a skin on skin intercept - they've literally just "outsourced" the tracking, and by combining the probable errors in non-fire control radar pictures until they have a small enough error to act as a fire control radar, fire the mission without ever turning on a fire control radar... Just the open source data on CEC gives away the creepy scary capabilites of the system. What i wrote above was just a simplification of the unclassified, "Distro A" Death by PowerPoint "CEC 101" the CEC program has for incoming interns and secretaries (the classified stuff, aside from drawings and software to actually build the hardware and make it work, is mostly about hard numbers like max number of target tracks, etc.)
CEC is only the missile control aspect of that capability. The actual networking side where multiple tracks are amalgamated is just part of the base Aegis system's capabilities; it gets that info through Link-16. But yes, this is a capability we definitely have, and are working on improving - the USN's goal is to eventually be able to hit any target with any missile, from any platform, cued by any sensor in the inventory.
Listen I’m a Saudi and I have to say our lives our culture our everything was saved by Americans we know your sacrifices in the gulf war we know what you have done for us and you have our upmost gratitude let me tell you a couple of things 1-Saudi Arabia became less religious because of your help and what I like to call (American dose in the culture) now more than ever shakes are mad because we have taken the power from them and gave it back to the people 2-we are now more educated because of your professors I thank each and every professor that helped me become who I am thank you for your support 3-my girlfriend life has been saved by the American patriot system from hothi missiles and one final thing don’t believe what you hear on the news Saudi Arabia won’t leave the dollar or the us as an ally thank you to every American taxpayer your sacrifice made us who we are and don’t worry we will repay you with the best oil in the Middle East
@@Alloy682 cant even fuckin win a fight against Yemeni militia, they would collapse if even a 3rd tier army took them head on. Too bad they have the US and literally any country reliant on oil backing them.
I'm not a Saudi nor I am defending them. But Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries like Qatar and uae literally keep production lines open for multiple US weapon systems. It's not a secret read American media and congress reports. It's because of the gulf countries that the Abrams the f15 and f16 is still being made.
I have just started watching your videos and you are an excellent host...Ever video either I learn something or laugh for every video..usually both..keep up the magnificent work
I was a NH fire control technician (24Q) and helped work on first Patriot turnups (before they had a maintainer MOS or AIT). I’m glad to see that puppy is still effective. Of course, in ADA, we think (true or not) “if it flies, it dies”.
I know someone that worked in Missiles and Fire Control for Lockheed for nearly thirty years. It's always enlightening getting his take on missile systems used by other nations.
Thank you so much!!! I was waiting for someone with true expertise to chime in on topics like this. It really puts the “Wikipedia Pilots” to shame. I had to share this. I’m sure this was very cathartic for you!
I misread the title and thought it said "Is the $400 Better than Patriot". And for the record: NO!, $400 is not better than Patriot. I'm pretty sure there are more than $400 worth of bolts, screw, duct tape, and other fasteners on a Patriot. Still, this was a very well researched and detailed, as much as possible without being arrested for giving out military secrets. So, well done Mr. HLC and keep up the good work.
I love how animated you get. I have the same feeling when people feel the need to discuss anti tank and infantry tactics or systems. When you use things live, study it to death, use it in combat younger fucking good at it. I love the talking plane vids but these are actually better ❤
trust me bro i love your content i can just tell your very well versed in what you educate people on....tell them you might be the writer of a book but the student is the one who learns it😂😂
OUTSTANDING JOB BROTHER , I do enjoy seeing your content . Your style is awesome and very straightforward . Got your six without a question , am retired and I know that the guy's in the Unsubribed would also have your six
Till now all I’ve seen are your silly videos where you do the mouth and eyes over the f22 of whatever. This is a pretty cool side of this channel. Words coming from someone that is specialized in a certain field is refreshing
Hi. Thanks for making these videos. That raf tornado 🌪 incident you mention. I think that one was shot down because a army base was on high alert and thought the tornado was a incoming missile due to a US soldier who attended the base from inside. A sad day. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Radars used with the AEGIS system are currently the SPY 1 and the SPY 6 there is another system called the SPY 7 but it isn't used on US ships at this time.
Random side note, but I just want to point out something I thought you might find cool-- Even though you're using pretty complex words/complicated names (just due to the nature of the topics at hand) and are speaking pretty quickly, the auto generated captioning system from TH-cam works better with your videos than anyone I've ever seen. As someone who watches nearly everything with captions, I really appreciate the clarity with which you speak. Makes following along as someone with 0 knowledge on any of this way way easier.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the IRIS-T system. It's a completely different niche than Patriot, but I think it'd be very interesting nonetheless. Also: I thought Ukraine having a wild hodgepodge of air-defense systems would be bad, now I wonder if that's actually a good thing, cause it means Ukraine will be able to have a well-layered defense system in places. Or in other words: The number of different systems is good, the low numbers of those individual systems, on the other hand, is bad, cause it means Ukraine can't put up an umbrella across their entire territory.
My Turkish-Canadian friend pronounces Erdogan as "Air-you-gone", if I remember correctly. When I last looked up a pronunciation guide, that looked about right.
Yes but when speaking of radar resolution the big wigs who design them often view that in conjunction with the frequency band. For example 2 radars looking at the same track in different frequencies one will have better resolution than the other
@@habitual_linecrosser And yet you are the only nation that nuked civilian cities in the world! You are responsible for so many wars and deaths to people around the world that there is no point of counting. Still some good content in your videos.
@@krasimirmarkov9165 #1Nagasaki and Hiroshima were industrial targets building weapons. #2 the lives of hundreds of thousands of troops on both sides were saved by those atomic bombs. #3 more people were killed in mainland Japan by napalm than both atomic bombs combined. #4 after development of the atomic bomb the US had the ability to produce 1 every 10 days but decided to stop at 2 devices and beg for the Japanese to surrender instead. President Truman himself stopped the bombing. If you're going to throw history at someone please make sure you're better at it than they are.
@@habitual_linecrosser Really you could of only googled it. Cities with hundreds of thousands of people. By saying that killing someone you gonna save another you got some kind of deception mildly said. Like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Delusional? And I was not throwing anything at you only stating the facts. Good that the fourth Geneva convention was later otherwise you know what you would of being called. Not that you are not.
@@krasimirmarkov9165 ok on that front please define a weapon of mass destruction. If you think strictly nuclear then yes we knew Iraq didn't have nukes. But chemical weapons, biological agents? We shot those down that were fired at us seems like proof to me.
What you said about constantly innovating - in biology there's something called Red Queen hypothesis which basically mean that you have to constantly adapt, evolve, and proliferate to survive.
I was communication in the army, and had to go on a deployment with 2-43ADA in 2008-2009. I learned a few things and one thing I learned and was told it wasn't a secret was our systems talk to each other. Now being comms I know that is true in comms but I even didn't put the dots together right away and had to ask the foot in mouth question which I was laughed at but it was understood why I didn't know.
An interesting fact about the CIWS: it uses APDS ammo for longer range, since even a small APDS round will rip something apart at that much rpm Edit: should clarify this is as far as we know publicly, obviously
In the maritime enviroment thats true but CRAM uses exploding ammo so the countryside around the system aren’t pepper with nonexploding rounds tha didnt hit their target. The exploding tounds detonate when they reach a certain range from the system so only fragments fall to the ground not intact shell with a higher velocity.
I had hoped you would spend more time on a technical analysis of the S400 and its interceptors. It would also be nice to learn more about the different "effectors" available for the Patriot.
Fun Fact: the first phased array Radar systems were built by Germany. Based on trials of directional radio communications, done bei Karl Ferdinand Braun in 1905, the GEMA built the FuMG 41/42 "Mammut" (Mammoth). It could steer its beam 60° in any direction electronically. It was also a combination of multiple existing smaller radar units, making it one of the few examples of efficient design and production in wartime Germany. Until after the war the British and Americans didn't believe such a system could be realised at the time and were totally gobsmacked when they got to stealing and reverse engineering it. Interestingly enough Luis Walter Alvarez used electronic beam steering to develop a radio landing guidance system for the USAF during WW2. But he didn't think of using it for airspace control and targeting.
@habituallinecrosser I have a question about patriot in reference to this video, if it had only been fired somewhere around 200 tumes when you posted this, how many has it been fired now since it's deployment in Ukraine has been... eventful
I was thinking about your comment of "asserting it's place on top of the food chain through extreme violence" and that sums up my thoughts on China and the Pacific. At some point the PLA Navy and the USA Navy are going to duke it out. It's inevitable. When that day comes, I wouldn't want to be a Chinese sailor.
@VoidTempering it may be technically a blue water navy, but they have no experience using it because of the brit and Japanese smashed them in the 1800s
Because at the end of the day, what wins battles is two things: practical experience in the field and traditions. The Royal Navy, after defeating the French at Trafalgar, built a tradition of being the uncontested master of the waves that wasn't broken until World War One and Jutlands failiure to defeat the High Seas Fleet, and when World War Two left them bankrupt. The Chinese have never had a modern steel Navy capable of blue water operations, unlike the U.S. Navy, which built ours in the late 1800s. With respect to experience, we have been involved with major fleet engagements with steel ships at the same time, 1898, with the Spanish American War, and especially in World War Two. This becomes important when considering Flattops and Submarines. Beating the shit out of the Japanese with both weapons systems gave us important operational experience, which we still use to this day, while a nation like China with no practical experience has a much more difficult time, because of a lack of institutional knoledge.
Old school 24T here. Quick correction. Patriot wasn’t designed for short to medium range missiles. It was originally designed for air breathing targets aka aircraft. It was later adapted for missiles. PAC3
I worked with ordnance in the navy (no where near the high level stuff you do), but my 'favorite' radar related weapon has always been the HARM. Specifically the self protect mode. I always thought that shit was absolutely badass.
And unlike Russia, we don't remove the bad stats from the early life of the Patriot and just spread the newer numbers . We give the whole picture and show how far it has come and how good it is.
Dude for half of you video, all I could do was just nod my head in agreement. I hate when people who know nothing about stuff try to talk about topics like they know what's what. For me, it's about the aircraft that I have worked on for 11 years the A-10.
I suspect we will someday see the army get loyal wingman type drones and add them to the air defense system. A big part of these missiles is packing enough fuel onboard to get them up to speed and altitude fast. If they were already at 40,000 ft, you just get the plane point in the direction of the target and now it has a big chunk of the altitude and energy needed to intercept. You can't do this well with manned aircraft because people get tired, and they don't like staying in a known location. Drones don't care if they work a 50-hour shift and are in constant threat of being shot down. This would also be great for extending sensor coverage and extending the system quickly to different areas. You can't replace ground based missiles completely with lottering systems, but they could definitely help the logistics of air defenses in some environments
USN: "We have a radar watching the Pacific."
The world: "What part?"
USN: "Yes."
Maybe that is what "Sea-Based X-Band Radar (SBX-1) " is doing?
@@jamesanderson6882 isn't that the ugly golf ball looking mofo I see half the year at pearl harbor
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea-based_X-band_Radar
Pretty much
And that's why you don't Fuck with Uncle Sugar Navy.
As someone who has worked in, how shall I put this, "secret squirrel" environments I have to appreciate the skilful way you avoided and skirted around those areas that would have you looking at sharing accommodations with 9 other men in a 10' x 30' room if you misspoke. well done.
Secret Squirrel environments. hahahahahaha That is creative use of metaphor. Game face only determined reticence is a highly valued operational trait.
Just remember kids, every time he ends a quote with, “on the wiki” it means, it’s wrong, he knows the answer, and it’s classified.
For those who want to know what "F Me" translates to regarding AEGIS - We shot down a satellite in low orbit. Roughly around 200 miles up.
F Yeah! 😂 That’s awesome!
It's also usally attached to a warship, and a heavy shore systems.
Like said, size and power...and theirs not much limit on that when you not have to account for a ground veichle. You can make way way bigger and use many times as much electrical power.
Aegis, only one letter capitalized.
@@BlitzFromBehind only if you’re talking about Greek shields. When referring to Advanced Electronic Guided Interceptor System, maybe not so much. But thanks for the spelling lesson in the middle of an ADA discussion
@@onerider808 AEGIS Weapon System is a part of Aegis Combat System. But yes the system was named after a greek shield.
Thank you for that public release breakdown. I didn't know the low fidelity issue with the S-300/400 series and am glad to know it. I bet the jammers on some F-35s could overwhelm it right quick. I have an 11B background so it is good to see another vet talk about the systems they trained on and used, especially when I know damn little about it.
Or even an EA-18G.
@@diamondflaw a Growler could confuse the shit out of an S400, I'm sure about that. Especially after hearing HL share his insight.
The US has S-300 in our possession for full exploitation and forecasted upgrade exploitation, just like we did with MiG-29 and Su-27. S-300 performance is great against Russian and Ukrainian aircraft, if you don’t mind the IFF not working. Russia shot down 4 of their own aircraft in one day recently, including another Su-35, which has their latest and greatest avionics in any of their operational fighters. Israelis, US, and UK have been defeating S-300s over Syria for years now. S-400 is meant for ballistic missile defense and bombers primarily.
The “jammers” on all F-35s are the AESA Radars. The F-35’s AESA has high-capability to jam other Radars. As soon as the USMC started getting operational squadron F-35Bs, they retired their EA-6B prowlers, after the F-35B pilots took as many lessons they could from the Prowler community. Also notice that the USAF did not replace the EF-111A with a new offensive EW platform because the F-22A was coming online. There was a brief gap where the USAF relied on USN EA-6Bs during the war in Yugoslavia, which were not able to fly the night the F-117A was shot down.
F-35s have more EW capability than legacy EW platforms because they can’t be detected until within visual range basically, meaning trey can bring their jamming arrays within very close distances to threat emitters. A Stealth jamming aircraft is a very insidious combination, especially when that aircraft can also deliver precision munitions and share networked sensor-fused data about all the threats it sees with other F-35s. Additionally, F-35s bring a new cyber-attack capability that has not existed before.
@@showtime1004 Any 4th Gen platform that can carry decoy missiles and employ them against IADS can confuse S300 and S400, although S-400 is meant for long range intercepts of incoming ICBMs and bombers. S-300 is more of a tactical system for intercepting fighters and cruise missiles. The US was employing decoy missiles from fighters in Desert Storm over 32 years ago, and now has given them to Ukraine. Ukrainian Su-24s have been upgraded to carry the Storm Shadow missile, so when these 2 types of systems are used together (decoy missiles and Storm Shadow), S-300 is screwed.
Need more AEGIS!!
I live near a Lockheed facility that does a lot with AEGIS and I've always been fascinated by the system. I get a lot of my information from declassified stuff they give out to recruit potential engineers. Just piecing together what was classified in the 90s and early 00s says a lot about American Air defense systems.
Phased arrays are not going anywhere. there are so many ways that electronic beam steering is so much vastly better than mechanical I never see mechanical ever dominating the radar scene again.(with the possible exception of long range and relatively low resolution search radar. Those will still probably be a big rotating "hyperbolic parabaloid" (That is what they called the shape and said it is saddle like. I disagree, it does not look like a saddle. Just look for a large and fairly slowly rotating shaped kind of like a smooshed oval that has been bent forward on both ends, that is a hyperbolic paraboloid. Anyway for long range radar I suspect those aren't going anywhere . Also the aegis system used to (I don't know it it still does) hand off from the phased array to a conventional mechanical track radar when actually firing a missile at a target. I was not a aegis guy but I suspect that this was due to technical issues with trying to keep the hard continuous beam on the object that you are trying to shoot down and the super neato 360 view of the battlespace at the same time using the system as it was designed.
Incidentally when you watch movies where the pilot hears a solid buzzing or long beeping noise and starts getting excited yelling about "SAM Inbound" or something like that. It is his electronics warfare package has detected a continuous beam on them which means that you are either being painted by or for a missile. Either way break hard and fast or you are going to be confetti in a couple of seconds. You can also hear this in the famous footage from a F 16 that dodged 6 Iraqi sams over the course of as many minutes. You can hear that as well as hear what a pilot really sounds like when he is dodging for his life under high G forces. Including a very impressive "OH SHHHHI..." that is cut off as you see his G force indicater rocket past 6 Gs and his afterburner indicator light up. It turns out that you can't really scream at 6 Gs. Still 6 sams dodged. That speaks well of both the pilot and the plane.
I live next to Huntington-Ingalls. I see Aegis ships every day. Beautiful fucking vessels.
@@Snipergoat1You won't know you're being targeted by the Patriot until it's too late and there's not a damned thing you can do except eject because that missile is going to bias its impact on the cockpit and it will kill you.
Flare. Chaff. Breaking hard all you want. If you don't eject immediately, you're dead. Period.
You aren't piecing together anything... stop trying to hype yourself up to others.
@thomgizziz really? You know all about me?
"A pissed off R2D2...", I love how your comments keep getting better daily. Keep up the good work.
14:21 To be honest, I feel like the United States is doing a pretty damned good job of asserting its position at the top of the food chain with what we’ve been letting the Ukrainians play around with, as well as the capabilities we’ve been giving them the means to manufacture on their own. With them getting a single patriot system, I genuinely feel like it’s going to make China take a whole other step back in their plans for Taiwan, just as the beginning of the Ukrainian war did.
Make no mistake, the United States owns the sky, it owns the night, and it doesn’t take very long having those two spaces in our possession to own the ground that the sun rises on in the morning.
Btw, love the videos man, love the format, and I especially loved your convo with Animarchy. Just killer shit all the way around.
That's a primary reason to support Ukraine that *is* a direct national interest of the United States.
You automatically "win" the war you *don't* have to fight because the woild-be aggressor is deterred by your capabilities and never starts the war.
As the philosopher Will Smith said, *"Don't start none, won't BE none."*
I'm sure the US convinced people we were the top dog when The US became the country that can park a nimitz class supercarrier right in your driveway when you Annoy the US enough
Ukraine has been a live fire weapons demonstration of the US vs Russia.
But Russia is also a warning. Russia is an example of corruption run amuck. We need to get a handle on the corruption we have here at home. It's nowhere near as much as Russia, but it's obvious how devastating it can be to the populace of a nation.
It's something that I love to push into Z-shithead's faces:
Ukraine has received a wild mishmash of NATO hand-me-downs, some decade old systems like the Gepard, some top shelf stuff like the Patriot and a whole metric shitton of stuff in bewteen.
And every single piece of equippement performed above and beyond expectations.
The Gepard, for instance, works great to shoot down Shahed drones, making it exceptionally cheap to shoot down these drones... and the Gepard is ancient by modern standards.
The Patriot system swats Kinzhals from the sky like it was nothing, and that's only a small number of systems, not even the most modern ones or the full range of available missile types.
Modern NATO artillery is fucking up anything close to the frontline, anything further away is getting turned into swiss cheese by HIMARS and the Storm Shadow has taught the Russians that the Dildo of Consequences won't be lubed up before use.
Ukraine receives small numbers of, for lack of a better word, basic weapon systems, some fancy stuff like ATACMS are still off the table _and Russia is getting its ass kicked seven ways from sunday with just that._
Meanwhile, every single Russian wonder weapon was a giant nothingburger. A far cry from similar Western systems.
The US is supporting Ukraine with unfathomable amounts of ammo, weapons, supplies on a monthly basis and the US hasn't even had to enter war-time production to keep up with the demands. Just think about how _scary_ that is to its enemies: The USA has not yet even begun to play serious, and is already delivering enough stuff to Ukraine to slap Russia's shit rather devisively.
@@geodkyt Starship troopers (the book not the movie) addresses this actually. You don't always have to fight and destroy your enemy, you just have to hit the enemy so hard and fast they recognize that you could destroy them.
I was a 14-E from 2005-2011. Brother, you have no idea how good it is to hear someone who KNOWS what they are talking about, and has the ability to explain it to the lamen. Keep em coming bro. I am just sad I have only recently found you through the shorts.
You were recommended to me by Alex from Sand boxx... He was right about you...
Your content is really good and accurate
Keep doing what you’re doing, ur channel is going to grow pretty soon and it’s gonna be one of the biggest
Thank you for being here he's a great guy I love his video
It's always nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. One thing I think is important to keep in mind when reading specs of these systems (especially for those of us just reading stuff online without professional experience to put this into context) is that most 'specs' are not as simple as a single number. A radar system's range for example: there's a difference between detecting the existence of an object and getting a lock on it. Stealth doesn't need to prevent detection to prevent targeting. Similarly, RCS depends on frequency of radar used etc. Even assuming Russia's published figures are accurate (which is a pretty big assumption) there's not enough nuance in the headline figures to simulate an engagement.
Too many people get the two confused. Just because you see something the size of a humming bird flying March 1.3, doesn't mean you can shot it down.
All to often people point the the F-117 nighthawk that was shot down. That was never a complete plan. It was a proof of concept that was fielded into production. It required support electronic warfare planes to operate.
Assume nothing with Russia.
They are the same country that brought ICBMs back to the start of a parade, painted on new numbers, and rolled them back through.
If they don’t show it, they don’t have it.
Announced specs get so twisted & muddied in manipulative verbage that you may as well as well sit back a while to wait for the verifiable sources. That may be a fair bit of waiting as well, but it's better than getting burned badly. You're spot on.
The internet makes s300/400 systems seem impenetrable, thank you for sharing your knowledge on the subject!
It's because the Russian weebs that want Russia to win gobble Putin and his Defense Ministry's word like it's the gospel. Everytime Russia opens its mouth the US can prove 3 times over how they're incompetent liars.
Nah! the internet makes patriot seem impenetrable.
@@omniscient702because it is like it's been once patriot has you say your prayers
@@Morally_Immoral2 Patriot had a pretty poor record in Desert Storm. Aside from the fratricide incidents, it had about a 50/50 success rate against the Scuds that Iraq fired (single missile average success rates, obviously we can fire more than one to improve the odds, and we did). The issue with applying that spotty record to today is that was Patriot PAC-1, which has about as much in common with the current PAC-3 and PAC-2 GEM+ families as S-400 has with S-300.
The reputation issue has also been exacerbated by the fact the Saudis have been the most prolific user of the system since Desert Storm, and they had a couple of high-profile failures with the system: one where an interceptor missile circled and killed civilians, and the other where 6 full Patriot batteries didn't even detect, never mind engage, the incoming drones and cruise missiles that struck their oil facilities. With the benefit of hindsight (and experience in Ukraine) it's pretty clearly a case of them just sucking in particular, but at the time nobody knew better, and so the narrative spread.
@@GintaPPE1000 because it wasn't meant for missiles
When Aegis first came out pilots used to joke that if you flew too close to it you produce FLKs from all the energy coming out of that system. You might ask what an FLK is. I'm glad you asked, it means you produce funny-looking kids. As in chromosome damage. You know missing limbs that kind of thing.
They are pretty dangerous seen plenty of birds just drop out of the sky around aegis cruisers.
@@robomonkey1018 Sonar's even worse, proliferates for insanely long distances underwater and kills a shit ton of marine life.
@@akiva344 You’re saying sound waves kill a ton of marine life? Any academic papers you can cite?
@@LRRPFco52it fucks up mammals that live in the ocean and have ears. At least the high power systems do. So like whales and dolphins. It doesn’t both fish etc, they don’t really have ears. It doesn’t kill outright but a whale or dolphin that can’t hear its own sonar because it’s ears got blown out are 100% going to die eventually if they can’t heal before they starve.
@@LRRPFco52😂 that is how you deal with diver's! Also shock waves from explosion are just sound waves, do you need papers that proves that bombs kill things?
As glad I found your channel. As an AFATDS for 6 years this shit gets me excited. Thank you for your continued service. I started out with the M198 fielded the M777 and finished with the M101.
Ive heard that term before.
'Frequency hopping'
1940's acttress Hedy Lamarr with the American composer George Antheil came up with an extraordinary new communication system used with the intention of guiding torpedoes to their targets in war. The system involved the use of “frequency hopping” amongst radio waves, with both transmitter and receiver hopping to new frequencies together. Doing so prevented the interception of the radio waves, thereby allowing the torpedo to find its intended target. After its creation, Lamarr and Antheil sought a patent and military support for the invention. While awarded U.S. Patent No. 2,292,387 in August of 1942
You're telling me...that an actress, and a composer.......came up with an amazing way to guide torpedoes?!
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877es. She would have been extremely rich if the FBI had not disrupted the patent. It's used in cellphones and many many other applications.
It's cool you know about that, not many people do.
That's Hedley, not Heddy. What are you worried about? It's 1865. You can sue her!!!
I do love your longer format content. Anybody talking about something they are passionate about will hold my attention. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome, I am a former Stinger Gunner and Avenger Crew member, I enlisted into active duty in 1992, and I was stationed at Fort Polk and the new JRTC in La. I trained to fight Soviet doctrine and American Doctrine. went to a few Vulcan Gunneries and trained on the Hawk when we got to my unit. Ahhh, ADA. Transferred to the infantry, retired out due to being combat wounded from Afghanistan.
I can only imagine the new Kit. Kinda Jelly, but then again, retirement! Keep it up! Climb to Glory!
Hey from Israel.
Great video, i like a guy of Air-defense that knows what he's talking about.
Why people compare Iron dome to Patriot? 2 different roles systems, Iron dome is a C-RAM while Patriot covers so many other threats (TBM,ABT,TBM,CM and more...)
As far as i can tell, Israel defense force are using David sling and Patriot PAC-2 for backup, these systems works below the Arrow-2 and 3.
Great to see videos like yours, making a lot of sense of this important subject.
Take care.
It's because people are comparing the concept of interception over the exact system specificities. It's one of those "Go with what they mean, and not what they say" on the subject.
People are just referencing the most well-known systems. Comparing Patriot to Iron Dome is like comparing an F-35 to a Switchblade drone. They’re both very good for their intended purposes, but those purposes are very different.
PAC-2 is really more of an anti-aircraft missile with upgrades, software, and sensors that give it some anti-ballistic missile capabilities. But it will always be limited because the missile body itself it wasn’t built to intercept missiles. That’s why the PAC-3 was designed. It is much smaller, faster, and more maneuverable than the PAC-2 missile, and was designed from the ground up to intercept ballistic missiles. And it has been a stunning success in its first real action in Ukraine (the Saudis only had PAC-2). I suspect that the collaboration between Israel and the US on David’s Sling, etc. also involved the design of the PAC-3.
Only recently found your channel but as someone who's parents help build these systems, it's great to hear your option on how effective these systems can be
I think you made a really good point about them being different philosophies. tbh based on what we know I’m willing to bet they’d be extremely strong if we somehow integrated them together.
We're trying that in Ukraine
Underrated TH-cam channel, Keep those lines crossed
In the USAF I worked on the computer that ran the SLBM (sea-launched ballistic missile) radar. I worked at two different sites. Our radar was putting out about 1.5 megawatts. It used a sixty-foot parabolic ant. We could track a 1-meter satellite at 960 nautical miles. This was in the 70's in the 80's it was replaced with a phased array radar. I saw a briefing on the new system but never worked on it. The system was in a six-story building and the array covered about half the top part of the face of the building. They said it would cover about 200 degs.
Great information! I was a medic, but now I know more than every before about incepting MRBMs, and ICBMs. There a lot of "SMALL" people on the web that think better of themselves by correcting slightest misspeak or piece of information that disagrees with the ten minute article they just online. Keep up the good work. The vast majority of us appreciate it. A lot!
You were a medic, I was not. Why in the hell would I ever try to imply I knew more than you ? That's some fukkin stupid ass shit.
I don't understand why people do this kind of stuff. It's really bizarre dude.
I was in the infantry a long time ago, so I appreciate the hell out of medics. They're some incredibly creative folks when circumstances require rapid ingenuity.
Respect from 🇨🇦
I don't understand what you're getting at. My remarks were meant to complement HLC for the information he puts out in this and in many of his other videos. And to express my disapproval of people who seem to have nothing more to do with their lives than pick at minor miss-speaks and minor errors in videos that people like HLC take the time to do. Glaring mistakes are one thing. But all the nitpicking that goes on, on the internet, gets annoying after a while. I don't think I addressed my comments to you.
Lastly, I appreciate the respect! And like you I was in a long time ago in a hot bug-infested smelly country,.@@badgermacleod5588
As someone who has ran TDAs such as Builder and AREPS, i love hearing you talk about these things, cause it makes it easier to realize that my wprk actually meant something.
One of the key advantages the Aegis system has over literally every other air defense system is CEC (Cooperative Enagement Capability), which creates a science fiction level synthetic holistic picture of the battlespace that can tie together multiple *non fire control quality tracks* into a consolidated data point that *is* a fire control grade track... and then pass that data so that *any* CEC equipped Aegis platform can fire the mission just as accurately as any other platform - even if the firing platform has exactly *no* visibility on the target.
And no, this isnt the same as lofting a laser guided weapon over a hill and having it pick up the spot being lased by the snake eaters on the other side. The launching platform is guiding the weapon to the target the entire time with a level of fidelity high enough for a skin on skin intercept - they've literally just "outsourced" the tracking, and by combining the probable errors in non-fire control radar pictures until they have a small enough error to act as a fire control radar, fire the mission without ever turning on a fire control radar...
Just the open source data on CEC gives away the creepy scary capabilites of the system. What i wrote above was just a simplification of the unclassified, "Distro A" Death by PowerPoint "CEC 101" the CEC program has for incoming interns and secretaries (the classified stuff, aside from drawings and software to actually build the hardware and make it work, is mostly about hard numbers like max number of target tracks, etc.)
Underrated comment
AEGIS plus F-35C/F-35B plus RQ-4C plus P-8A = game-changing CEC.
CEC is only the missile control aspect of that capability. The actual networking side where multiple tracks are amalgamated is just part of the base Aegis system's capabilities; it gets that info through Link-16. But yes, this is a capability we definitely have, and are working on improving - the USN's goal is to eventually be able to hit any target with any missile, from any platform, cued by any sensor in the inventory.
Personally I don't think we should be supporting Saudi Arabia whatsoever but to say the Patriot missile system would do nothing is laughable
Yea screw them lol
Listen I’m a Saudi and I have to say our lives our culture our everything was saved by Americans we know your sacrifices in the gulf war we know what you have done for us and you have our upmost gratitude let me tell you a couple of things 1-Saudi Arabia became less religious because of your help and what I like to call (American dose in the culture) now more than ever shakes are mad because we have taken the power from them and gave it back to the people 2-we are now more educated because of your professors I thank each and every professor that helped me become who I am thank you for your support 3-my girlfriend life has been saved by the American patriot system from hothi missiles and one final thing don’t believe what you hear on the news Saudi Arabia won’t leave the dollar or the us as an ally thank you to every American taxpayer your sacrifice made us who we are and don’t worry we will repay you with the best oil in the Middle East
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@@Alloy682 cant even fuckin win a fight against Yemeni militia, they would collapse if even a 3rd tier army took them head on. Too bad they have the US and literally any country reliant on oil backing them.
I'm not a Saudi nor I am defending them. But Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries like Qatar and uae literally keep production lines open for multiple US weapon systems. It's not a secret read American media and congress reports. It's because of the gulf countries that the Abrams the f15 and f16 is still being made.
I have just started watching your videos and you are an excellent host...Ever video either I learn something or laugh for every video..usually both..keep up the magnificent work
New subscriber, got shown your channel by a friend - really appreciate your informative and fun content!
So glad, I just found your TH-cam! I been following your TIC Tok for a long while
I appreciate your patriotism. Your passion comes through. Being a patriotic guy myself, I’m an American first and forever. Proud of our military.
Not sure why TH-cam recommended this video but im glad it did. Very nice job Man.
Thank you for your service and dialog. I appreciate learning a bit of what you know.
I was a NH fire control technician (24Q) and helped work on first Patriot turnups (before they had a maintainer MOS or AIT). I’m glad to see that puppy is still effective. Of course, in ADA, we think (true or not) “if it flies, it dies”.
Logan Heights
From someone who was in UAE during those drone strikes I want to say thank you very much to the Air Defenders.
I know someone that worked in Missiles and Fire Control for Lockheed for nearly thirty years. It's always enlightening getting his take on missile systems used by other nations.
Thank you so much!!! I was waiting for someone with true expertise to chime in on topics like this. It really puts the “Wikipedia Pilots” to shame. I had to share this. I’m sure this was very cathartic for you!
Thank you for the information you shared! Very thorough and easy to understand.
These videos are great man. Learned so much about Air Defense from you, keep it up!
Your explanations are on point. You made this old 42A/25B understand AD stuff
I also work in the missile defense industry. Watching you avoid saying certain things about Aegis is spicy funny hahaha
I misread the title and thought it said "Is the $400 Better than Patriot".
And for the record: NO!, $400 is not better than Patriot.
I'm pretty sure there are more than $400 worth of bolts, screw, duct tape, and other fasteners on a Patriot.
Still, this was a very well researched and detailed, as much as possible without being arrested for giving out military secrets.
So, well done Mr. HLC and keep up the good work.
I love how animated you get. I have the same feeling when people feel the need to discuss anti tank and infantry tactics or systems.
When you use things live, study it to death, use it in combat younger fucking good at it.
I love the talking plane vids but these are actually better ❤
Man, your the best content i have on TH-cam by far. Keep up the awesome work 👍
Love the longer more in depth content
The short explanation about the radars was very helpful. I was always wondering why there was such a big difference between the systems thx ^-^
Great video, thanks for making this channel!
I love these educational vids you do Sergeant, Hopefully warrant officer school is going well for you.
I love your TikTok videos and was surprised to get you recommended to me here . Keep up the good work good sir
trust me bro i love your content i can just tell your very well versed in what you educate people on....tell them you might be the writer of a book but the student is the one who learns it😂😂
Thank you for the greater detail than you can give on TT
OUTSTANDING JOB BROTHER , I do enjoy seeing your content . Your style is awesome and very straightforward . Got your six without a question , am retired and I know that the guy's in the Unsubribed would also have your six
I would honestly love to see you talk more about CWIS, the R2-D2 with a murderboner as I've heard more than person call it.
It's pretty smart, in an autistic way.
Have heard R2-FU as well
Till now all I’ve seen are your silly videos where you do the mouth and eyes over the f22 of whatever. This is a pretty cool side of this channel. Words coming from someone that is specialized in a certain field is refreshing
I think you're right about the low fidelity, explains why old Soviet drones can fly deep into Russia ...
Hi.
Thanks for making these videos. That raf tornado 🌪 incident you mention. I think that one was shot down because a army base was on high alert and thought the tornado was a incoming missile due to a US soldier who attended the base from inside. A sad day. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Your immense knowledge and expertise in your chosen field is astounding.... you remind me of...... oh, me in my field 😂
Radars used with the AEGIS system are currently the SPY 1 and the SPY 6 there is another system called the SPY 7 but it isn't used on US ships at this time.
14:51 You can see almost hear thought process - "I have a number in mind, but if I say it out loud I'm definitely going to be in a lot of trouble."
I don't think you need to defend yourself to anyone. Love the videos
Random side note, but I just want to point out something I thought you might find cool-- Even though you're using pretty complex words/complicated names (just due to the nature of the topics at hand) and are speaking pretty quickly, the auto generated captioning system from TH-cam works better with your videos than anyone I've ever seen.
As someone who watches nearly everything with captions, I really appreciate the clarity with which you speak. Makes following along as someone with 0 knowledge on any of this way way easier.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the IRIS-T system. It's a completely different niche than Patriot, but I think it'd be very interesting nonetheless.
Also: I thought Ukraine having a wild hodgepodge of air-defense systems would be bad, now I wonder if that's actually a good thing, cause it means Ukraine will be able to have a well-layered defense system in places. Or in other words: The number of different systems is good, the low numbers of those individual systems, on the other hand, is bad, cause it means Ukraine can't put up an umbrella across their entire territory.
My Turkish-Canadian friend pronounces Erdogan as "Air-you-gone", if I remember correctly. When I last looked up a pronunciation guide, that looked about right.
Please keep producing these long form videos.
Thanks for the long form. The in depth coverage is more fun. Question: Could what you are referring to a fidelity also be referred to as resolution?
Yes but when speaking of radar resolution the big wigs who design them often view that in conjunction with the frequency band. For example 2 radars looking at the same track in different frequencies one will have better resolution than the other
@@habitual_linecrosser And yet you are the only nation that nuked civilian cities in the world! You are responsible for so many wars and deaths to people around the world that there is no point of counting. Still some good content in your videos.
@@krasimirmarkov9165 #1Nagasaki and Hiroshima were industrial targets building weapons.
#2 the lives of hundreds of thousands of troops on both sides were saved by those atomic bombs.
#3 more people were killed in mainland Japan by napalm than both atomic bombs combined.
#4 after development of the atomic bomb the US had the ability to produce 1 every 10 days but decided to stop at 2 devices and beg for the Japanese to surrender instead. President Truman himself stopped the bombing.
If you're going to throw history at someone please make sure you're better at it than they are.
@@habitual_linecrosser Really you could of only googled it. Cities with hundreds of thousands of people.
By saying that killing someone you gonna save another you got some kind of deception mildly said.
Like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Delusional?
And I was not throwing anything at you only stating the facts.
Good that the fourth Geneva convention was later otherwise you know what you would of being called. Not that you are not.
@@krasimirmarkov9165 ok on that front please define a weapon of mass destruction. If you think strictly nuclear then yes we knew Iraq didn't have nukes. But chemical weapons, biological agents? We shot those down that were fired at us seems like proof to me.
What you said about constantly innovating - in biology there's something called Red Queen hypothesis which basically mean that you have to constantly adapt, evolve, and proliferate to survive.
We make something to beat anything anyone else has. And then ask ourselves, how do we beat it? Upgrade that, make that, and so on.
Thank you Professor HLC.
thanks for the info, i dont understand it all but thanks for breaking it down for us
Always appreciate your words of wisdom, oh ya you play any Squad or Hell Let Loose? Love me some Squad !
Sandboxx recommended you, he's great.. so I know you'll do 👍
I was communication in the army, and had to go on a deployment with 2-43ADA in 2008-2009. I learned a few things and one thing I learned and was told it wasn't a secret was our systems talk to each other. Now being comms I know that is true in comms but I even didn't put the dots together right away and had to ask the foot in mouth question which I was laughed at but it was understood why I didn't know.
So funny that the "Low Slow Flyer" problem plagues the S-400. SPY-1 sitting here saying "Yeah, I got a patch for that" lol
I remember the Patriots first interception of a SCUD. It was mind boggling to think of & see the film.
This Canadian is happy to have our slightly unhinged, somewhat paranoid, disturbingly heavily armed downstairs neighbour.
An interesting fact about the CIWS: it uses APDS ammo for longer range, since even a small APDS round will rip something apart at that much rpm
Edit: should clarify this is as far as we know publicly, obviously
In the maritime enviroment thats true but CRAM uses exploding ammo so the countryside around the system aren’t pepper with nonexploding rounds tha didnt hit their target. The exploding tounds detonate when they reach a certain range from the system so only fragments fall to the ground not intact shell with a higher velocity.
@@jasonvant7714 yeah, I was just sharing a fun fact about CIWS, most people think it also uses HE
I think the pacific one you are talking about is the x band “Golf ball”. The thing is a beast. When it works.
I am glad he is training the people that protect my family and I. Thank you!
We used to say we bring light and warmth into the Cockpit.
At like 16 minutes the radar you're thinking of is the big ass radomes found across the Pacific Rim. There's one in Pearl Harbor @Habitual Linecrosser
Keep up the long form videos!
I was a Navy Aegis Air Warfare guy. As long as the OS's and AW's aren't asleep on watch we should be fine lol.
I understand the British refer to CIWS as the "Dalek" (from Dr Who) rather than R2-D2.
Makes sense if you think about it. The Daleks are all about extermination.
I have no interest in debating anything, I just wanna hear you explain why having one radar is a bad idea. Sounds like a great time honestly.
I agree with you about the leadership bro. We need less politicians getting commissions, and more SOLDIERS in those positions.
I had hoped you would spend more time on a technical analysis of the S400 and its interceptors. It would also be nice to learn more about the different "effectors" available for the Patriot.
Can you do a review of David Sling?
Fun Fact: the first phased array Radar systems were built by Germany. Based on trials of directional radio communications, done bei Karl Ferdinand Braun in 1905, the GEMA built the FuMG 41/42 "Mammut" (Mammoth). It could steer its beam 60° in any direction electronically. It was also a combination of multiple existing smaller radar units, making it one of the few examples of efficient design and production in wartime Germany. Until after the war the British and Americans didn't believe such a system could be realised at the time and were totally gobsmacked when they got to stealing and reverse engineering it.
Interestingly enough Luis Walter Alvarez used electronic beam steering to develop a radio landing guidance system for the USAF during WW2. But he didn't think of using it for airspace control and targeting.
@habituallinecrosser
I have a question about patriot in reference to this video, if it had only been fired somewhere around 200 tumes when you posted this, how many has it been fired now since it's deployment in Ukraine has been... eventful
Did Raytheon ever get back regarding the cardboard drones from down under?
The tism is strong with this one. He is worthy of the high council.
I was thinking about your comment of "asserting it's place on top of the food chain through extreme violence" and that sums up my thoughts on China and the Pacific. At some point the PLA Navy and the USA Navy are going to duke it out. It's inevitable. When that day comes, I wouldn't want to be a Chinese sailor.
Take em to open ocean their blue water navy is almost non existent but that's just a guess honestly.
@@habitual_linecrosserThey have the second largest blue water navy in the world, how can you call it non-existent?
@VoidTempering it may be technically a blue water navy, but they have no experience using it because of the brit and Japanese smashed them in the 1800s
@@duncanp1987 Why are you comparing their modern fleet with an event that happened over a century ago?
That doesn't make any sense.
Because at the end of the day, what wins battles is two things: practical experience in the field and traditions. The Royal Navy, after defeating the French at Trafalgar, built a tradition of being the uncontested master of the waves that wasn't broken until World War One and Jutlands failiure to defeat the High Seas Fleet, and when World War Two left them bankrupt. The Chinese have never had a modern steel Navy capable of blue water operations, unlike the U.S. Navy, which built ours in the late 1800s. With respect to experience, we have been involved with major fleet engagements with steel ships at the same time, 1898, with the Spanish American War, and especially in World War Two. This becomes important when considering Flattops and Submarines. Beating the shit out of the Japanese with both weapons systems gave us important operational experience, which we still use to this day, while a nation like China with no practical experience has a much more difficult time, because of a lack of institutional knoledge.
Hell, our layers get as miniscule as MANPADS. I've seen the new FIM-92C in action, watching the ADA guys train. That thing is INSANE.
Old school 24T here. Quick correction. Patriot wasn’t designed for short to medium range missiles. It was originally designed for air breathing targets aka aircraft. It was later adapted for missiles. PAC3
How about doing a beginners guide to phased array radar and how different things affect it. Just a thought, love yer channel buddy.
I worked with ordnance in the navy (no where near the high level stuff you do), but my 'favorite' radar related weapon has always been the HARM. Specifically the self protect mode. I always thought that shit was absolutely badass.
And unlike Russia, we don't remove the bad stats from the early life of the Patriot and just spread the newer numbers . We give the whole picture and show how far it has come and how good it is.
Doesn't the S400 use a separate radar for detection and targeting?
Were you referring to the sea based x-band radar in the Pacific?
Yes I cannot remember it's name but I know what it looks like
@@habitual_linecrosserfloating offshore oil rig with a big ass radome....I think.
@@bryanhoppe1481 that's the one 👌
Dude for half of you video, all I could do was just nod my head in agreement. I hate when people who know nothing about stuff try to talk about topics like they know what's what. For me, it's about the aircraft that I have worked on for 11 years the A-10.
I suspect we will someday see the army get loyal wingman type drones and add them to the air defense system. A big part of these missiles is packing enough fuel onboard to get them up to speed and altitude fast. If they were already at 40,000 ft, you just get the plane point in the direction of the target and now it has a big chunk of the altitude and energy needed to intercept.
You can't do this well with manned aircraft because people get tired, and they don't like staying in a known location. Drones don't care if they work a 50-hour shift and are in constant threat of being shot down.
This would also be great for extending sensor coverage and extending the system quickly to different areas.
You can't replace ground based missiles completely with lottering systems, but they could definitely help the logistics of air defenses in some environments