073_1: Conflict Between Vaishnavism and Shaivism
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- Shaivite-Vaishnavite conflict which is now… is not a surface level but it's definitely below surface level still exists in India.
Gujarat and part of Madhya Pradesh … part of Rajasthan…part of UP and Delhi these I would consider as a cow belt.
These are predominantly upper caste strata of society … they worship Vaishnavism and they also worship cows.
If you take the other geographical regions … say Maharashtra, Ganesha is the most prominent deity and this naturally Ganesha is the son of Shiva so, it is a symbol of Shaivism… same thing in Goa and Kerala is Bhadrakali.
Bhadrakali is the most prominent powerful deity in Kerala and if you take Tamil Nadu also Shaivite shrines are more than Vaishnavite shrines but it is coexist.
The beauty is in this part people will go to the Vaishnav… people who practice Vaishnavite… Vaishnavism will go to Shiva temples and people who worship Shiva and think that Shaivite deity is the patron deity they go to the Vaishnavite temple also. So, they coexist… there is no conflict
But if you take the inherent way for this people's attitude which is in their mind they always get distracted by these two systems.
Stop spreading Hatred among Hindus, we are not shia-sunni!
I have Vishnu as well as Shiva's photo in my home temple.
TRUTH IS ALWAYS BITTER
@@jayantanag7736 yeah Periyyar cok suckers
Right these foreign funded motherfuckers started working on their agenda against Hindus and Hinduism by creating this section based division among Hindus which is the part of abrahamics religions we shouldn't fall in this trap. At my home also we have all gods and goddesses.
@@jayantanag7736 So you propagandists will tell hindus what Hinduism is and what their section and problem is while hindus are themselves saying it is not our problem and we have nothing to do with your nonsense it is just your agenda and propaganda which you created it has nothing to do with us or hindus then why don't you understand you are still running foreign and colonizers propaganda against Hindus,what nonsense is this.
Remember truth is bitter or not we don't care but lie makes you angry that's true that's why we will break all your teeth if you again did this kind of propaganda against us.
But we have Rajput and Dalit... And a Lot of Caste systems.
Nonsense. Most brahmins in North India are Shaiva.
They also coexist in North.
Stop this please.
U stop ur hate
you can't take it 😂
Lmao😂😂stop crying
Are only Brahmins Hindus??
In South, all Non-Brahmins are Shaivas. Brahmins are either Vaishnava or Smartha only.
Stop this nonsense.
There is no particular region where there is only shaiv Or there is only Vaishnav in my own household 50% of the people are Vaishnav 30% of are shaiv rest r smarthas Or shakt... But our kuldevi is kali
Nonsense, all India worship Shiva,Vishnu,Ganesha, Shakti and Agni.
Nonsense he tell real history .
Nonsense he tell real history
In South we don't have that much Vishnu worship.
@@goldenparrotschannel2369 I’m from Tamil Nadu but I’m Telugu and we are vaishnava. I think most Telugu ppl are vaishnava too
@@ehahaproductions680 you are fools...Shiva Vishnu all are one
Every hindu household in India contains images of different dieties. Krishna and Ram were shiva devotees.
Only a shivite would say or believe this non sense.
And vice versa
No, Madhvas brahmins and Srivaishnav Iyengars don't believe in it. You have only limited exposure of differnet pholosphies.. They don't even step in Shiva temples.
To the extent that they don't even eat in Smarthas/ Iyers households, which are brahmins themselves.
Shiv is part supreme lord vishnu
Not were ...its are
This non sense is spreaded by Kamal Hasan in his movie dashaavataram
Just go and search in Google chola king throw Vishnu in the ocean... it's true chola Dynasty was strict shaivites
@@debjitborah7090 Give some authentic text not wikipidia like source.
Adi shankacharya vs madvacharya hahahah
@@mmabasava.7844 Adi Shankaracharya was a shaivite and he wrote bhaja govindam ...now apologise
Read history
Most vaishnavas in south india are dalits, ramanujacharya converted many shudras into brahmins...vaishnavism is all inclusive
In our Bengal too most of the Vaishnavs are from lower cast background. What he is saying is nonsense.
Shaivism is the native religion of Dravidian Mulniwasis. Vaishnavism is Aryan foreign religion came with Central Asian Brahmin nomads.
@@goldenparrotschannel2369 yes
@@goldenparrotschannel2369 interesting point there. Where did you get that information? Is there an article or something that I can read?
@@goldenparrotschannel2369 and with that theory how can you explain the fact that kashmiri pandits follow shaivism mostly?
You say North India is Vaishnaivite....But the holiest site of shiva is varanasi and shiva resides in hinalayas and the river associated with shiva is Ganga which also flows in the north India....if shiva was south indian ,then south should have been the main places for shiva..North has more jyotirlingas of Shiva than south does.......If vishnu is North Indian Indian ,then why Vamana avatar is worshipped in south ,lord ayappa ,also Rama is a vishnu avatara but established Shiva temple called Rameshwaram. There are more Rama names in south than in North. Adi shankara is shaivite yet he writes bhaja govindam.....You say bhadrakali is prominent deity of kerela but kali is worshipped more in Bengal........ Indian society had allways had philosophical differences but problem is you think of differences as in rivalry.
Nonsense man you are we pray to shiva and all gods of hindus
Stop this nonsense
Shiv is devote of vishnu
And vishnu is devote of shiv
Both are One
G-GENERATOR
O-OPERATOR
D-DESTROYER
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No.
Shiva doesn't worship anyone.
He is the supreme.
@@teddy9629 as per our sahastra he is dev adi dev... And Narayan is bhagwaan
@@teddy9629 🤣🤣🤣🤣bro knows nothing
@@sulusukta3935 Siva is Parameshwar, Sarveshwar Maheshwar Vishveshwar😊
In Maharashtra majority families Kuldaivata is Khandoba, Jyotiba, Kalbhairava, all the avatars of Shiva and Tuljabhavani avatar of Parvati.
I don't like vaishnavs, as they act different around the shaivs like we r untouchables or something
Sir Rajput,Jatt and Punjabi Hindus are followers of Shaivism and Shaktism
Punjabi hindus and jatts r all vaishnav they follow vaishnav bairagis... See the no. Of vegetarians in haryana around 70%...see there greeting ram ram.. 😂haha.. What r u talking about.. Ppl of bengal follow shaktism all meat eaters.. Kashmiri pandits shaivs all meat eaters
@@sulusukta3935 so what is your problem we are shaivite and shaktism follower's or meat eater's
We are proud of our shaivism and shaktism sect and culture
And we are not cattle's that eat grass leaf vegetables
@@MightyWarrior277 but know that not most actually all jats r bairagi vaishnav. Don't make false statements...😂haha even shaiv agamas forbidden meat... Meat not a part of any sampradaye except shakts... Stuch shaivs r not meat eaters.. Only aghoris and tantriks r... Just know shaivism first...its tamsic not consider good in any agama Or upnisad even yogsutra prohibited it... People r fools who make such statements why don't u cut other human and eat.. It's sounds very much like a abrahmic statement that we r not cattels... We believe in jivatma.. Even shaivs believe in yogsutra and brhmsutra... Both prohibited meat.. Not considered good by any acharya for spiritual process. . . U guys follow vam tantra first know about ur own self....Iwhy don't u eat humans and cows??
@@sulusukta3935 wah wah what an baseless analysis..only shaktism in East...first learn things then talk bro..do u know sr Chaitanya mahaprabhu the biggest saint of vaishnaism born in west bengal ...he started spreading vaishnaism from there..u know the founder of iskon bhaktivedna Swami Prabhupada..His real name is aabhay Charan de..He is from Kolkata..U know whom he followed..Swami Sri Chaitanya..Iskon the biggest centre of vaishnaism culture was founded by a person from West Bengal..atleast learn something before u make some comments..even in North people do worship Vaishno Mata she is also a symbol of saktism..that means those who worship her they are meat eaters..food is everyone's choice..no god forbidden any food..in Hinduism nothing is forbidden except there is a karma related to it.so don't divide god based on food..
@@priyabratasingharoy6695 wait read care fully he said vaishnavs (strict vegetarians) are cattle why don't should call him a demon then..food is of course ur choice but we should promote ahimsa... Bhagwat gita and rig veda promotes vegetarianism as satvic tatv... I know very well that gaudiya sampradaye was developed in bengal... Swami gauranga, chaitnya mahaprabhu, gaudiya acharya, swami nityanda, swami ac bhakti vedanta srilapraphupad all were bangalis..did they said non veg is good, I'm not against non-veg but shastras are.. Don't debate on this... Assam and tripura both have huge vaishnav population.. Im very well aware of that.. Very simple thing dharma promotes satvic food not tamsic
Comment section is so stupid
They cant take the truth 😂
To all these gwar abhe bacho you are trolling bagwan narayana beta chanakya aryabatta bashkracharya all were vaishnava..all rajas call them desendents of shri rama or shri krishna
Om namo narayana🙏🙏
All descendants of Vishnu not krishna. Krishna and Rama are avatars of vishnu they come from Vishnu not the other way around.
Sir origion of shiv is from kailash parvat and people of Kashmir use to be the devotees of shiva even himachal and utrakhand we can easily see shiva parivar influence, Varanasi in up have hole area devout to shiva,gujrat somnat mandir, and Rajputs use to have war cry of ek ling ji ki jai,so how can you with confidence say what you said.
SHIV HI PARABRHAMA PARAMATMA PARAMESHWAR MAHAKAAL KI JAY 🔱🔱🔱🚩🔱
Vishnu is also parabrahma , parameshwara and paramatma hei 🥰🥰🥰
Their is only parabhraman who is narayana accepted by almost all great acharyas in our snathan history chankya was a vaishnava aryabhatta the founder of zero in surya sidhanta call narayana paravasudeva cause of the universe guru govind ji in guru granth called us to say hari nam hari naam and said the final destination in vaikyuntha..bhaskracharya ramanunja madvacharya adi shankracharya etc etc
@@cardiganbackyardigan7462not also he is only paramatma..
Vishnu is supreme Narayan is Para-Bhraman Bhagawan Ishwar.
Shiv is Para-Bhram
@@blajo3694 shiv is born from Narayan eye-brow
@@maku8075 nop Vishnu is born from shiva
@@blajo3694 nope
@@maku8075 yep
andhra is the most vaishnavite state which is a south indian state, 40 percent of tamilnadu is vaishnavite, stop your nonsense
What nonsense
U know nothing about SANATAN DHARM
@@vishnunarayan8850 yes
@@joel12388 yeah but if u study advait , everything comes in right place
You r nonsense
@@joel12388 who said u that shiva and Vishnu are not mentioned in Vedas lol. A very famous mrityunjaya mantra of shiva is from rig Veda ,oldest Veda .and even narayana is referred to as supreme Brahman along with shiva(rudra). Have some knowledge before u utter nonsense here .om namah shivay 🔱
I love the analysis on Indian religion and geography.
THIS IS TOATTLY NONSENCE OVERSIMPLIFICATION
Harmony / coexistence
Both are same ,if like vishnu its ok and vice versa ,but we always want best so we compare.
Caste in sanatan dharm? Don't bring abhrahamic things 😂😂
lord shiva favouratie kashi is in uttar pradesh
If a person reads shiv puran and another reads vishnu puran and Geeta... And they fight... They are the kali... 🤣...
So you see... Man errs... God doesn't... That's what I mean to you too.... You make mistakes I don't.... 🤣... Get it through your head.. Nothing is as it seems... It doesn't mean illusion.... It just means your way of seeing things.. Or your perspective is wrong..... And it has dire consequences.... 🤣...
That's what I have been telling everyone.... Every time you open that trap.... 🤣... I will hold it against you... And then you will regrettably say... Oh i didn't know.... That's what coming... Isme mammuka kuch nahi kar payega.. Woh apna bachha bachayega.. Ya Tumko.... 🤣 Simple question... Me to mere se itni bol chuka hai... Mera bachha... 🤣... And I always ask... Was I not somebody's kid.... See there's no answer to it... Liars... 🤣
Lord Śiva is considered the Topmost Vaishnava by our Gaudīya Vaishnava Sampradāya, so I don’t see what the conflict is…
Anyone who has read Śrīmad Bhāgavatam [Bhāgavat Purāna] would know that Lord Śiva is revered as the greatest devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa. And we also observe MahāŚivarātrī. So there should not be any conflict. If there is conflict, it is based on bodily designations, not the essence of Bhaktiyoga.
Same Mahabharata krishna is greatest shaiva
Asshøle Vaishnavite, your Tattupad has taught you wrong things. Vishnu and Krishna used to worship Shiva during their time in Sandipani Ashram.
But that was not believed in the olden times
HERE U CAN EASILY SEE GUY STARTING CONFLICT WITH HIS STUPID CONCEPT
@@kicchaabhi9798 anyway what happened in old happened we should not try to repeat it again what he said was true there was a conflict between shaivas and vaishnas
What about Buddhism...
I will accept Buddhism if this controversy will not stop
It's part of shaivism
@@borah3093 if u r reading it u should do any way dead mind are any way termites
Copy of Jainism and illogical theories
It was destroyed by saivaits 🔥🔥
Nonsense
Yes you are Right
NOPE HES NOT
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Hindu bano yeh kya h vishnu bhi humare shiv bhi