The Author Who Tried to END The World (Watchmen / Alan Moore) - Wisecrack Edition

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  • @UltimateKyuubiFox
    @UltimateKyuubiFox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +981

    Dr. Manhattan’s father was a watchmaker. Jon learned how to take things apart and put them back together again. When he does this to his atomically disassembled body and becomes Dr. Manhattan, he has turned a human being into a sum of parts. He now views human life as a mere assemblage of components. Like he learned to perceive a watch.
    That’s where we get the title of the book. It’s not just a play on “Who watches the watchmen?” It’s also because, to Dr. Manhattan, all people are like watches. They’re watchmen. And, in a sense, so too is that the perspective of Ozymandias with his plan. New York’s population is a small part of a larger calculation. Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias are Watchmen (watchmakers), and they view all humans as simple watchmen (component parts strung together). The tragedy being, the moment Dr. Manhattan learns the holistic value of human life from Laurie on Mars, Ozymandias has committed an irreversible act based upon the opposite notion. It’s perhaps one of the starkest contrasts of the book-in the end, the god takes the perspective of a human, and a human takes the perspective of the god. The god is ultimately powerless and the human ultimately cataclysmic. Yet, in the end, it will have made little impact regardless. But what little impact it will make, Dr. Manhattan now values enough to kill Rorschach to preserve. Quite grim.

    • @KlaxontheImpailr
      @KlaxontheImpailr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      UltimateKyuubiFox I feel like I should have seen this before.

    • @KlaxontheImpailr
      @KlaxontheImpailr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Is it weird that I find the next to last sentence kind of uplifting? Like this is the only thing Dr Manhattan could care about no matter how brief?

    • @emmanueloluga9770
      @emmanueloluga9770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Meh, good point. I think even better, is that once looked at simply Dr. Manhattan is the absolute embodiment of determinism. No other further explanation may be as simple. His choice at the end reflects the ultimate tragedy of such a philosophy/concept. This is evident throughout his actions and decision and prior view of human life. so much so that when he eventually gets a glimpse of the concept of free will from his epiphany due to his discussion with Laurie on Mars, this does little to overcome his innate existence based on determinism.

    • @zachariahhanson1792
      @zachariahhanson1792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Recursion, being/s and comparison.

    • @trentknutson2970
      @trentknutson2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @b_a_z_e_dv.2.067
    @b_a_z_e_dv.2.067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +788

    Alan Moore lives in my home town, and while I loved his work, I never found out till I notice him on the street.

    • @arsenylee7805
      @arsenylee7805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      B_A_Z_E_D V.2.0 oh i began to be jealous.....how he looks like?is he unemotional?

    • @keikoyukimura06
      @keikoyukimura06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      B_A_Z_E_D V.2.0 no one cares

    • @b_a_z_e_dv.2.067
      @b_a_z_e_dv.2.067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@keikoyukimura06 ok.

    • @branwithoutclaws
      @branwithoutclaws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      110 people care. What is wrong w people. That is pretty cool! You should get to know him somehow.

    • @john_unforsaken
      @john_unforsaken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Met him, shook hands etc, he is a good bloke. Lives about 10 min walk from me.

  • @TooSplicedUp13
    @TooSplicedUp13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +712

    After seeing this, I understand now why Alan Moore hates adaptations of his work.

    • @WhatWouldNinjaDo1
      @WhatWouldNinjaDo1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Likewise

    • @spiderjerusalem4009
      @spiderjerusalem4009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      he has been pissed of everything since the moment he started to realise hollywood.

    • @Peramiiy
      @Peramiiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Nope not every adaptation, except for the JLU episode "for the man who has everything"

    • @mr.dalerobinson
      @mr.dalerobinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He also rejected the idea of celebrity because he wasn't comfortable with its dark side.
      Its one of the reasons why he said he 'became a magician'.
      They wanted him to be another player on the talk show circuit etc and he made himself incompatible with the narrative.
      Thats his 'magic', he uses his words to create reactions from readers to create the world he is more comfortable with.
      When he says 'magic' it creates the result he wants from those who are wired with preconcieved opinions about it.
      theres more about it here th-cam.com/video/MFHn-HzacxY/w-d-xo.html

    • @alanjudd7537
      @alanjudd7537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spiderjerusalem4009 What do u mean?

  • @jdjdknxxbx991
    @jdjdknxxbx991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    "when everyones way of viewing the world one way ends, the world ends" that's mind blowing

    • @thesymphonyoflife3950
      @thesymphonyoflife3950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Technically, Moore wasn't wrong about the world ending as we knew it. He was just 3 years early.

    • @shrekstaint8709
      @shrekstaint8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That because World is a term to suggest what a singular person lives in. Earth is the word to describe the planet we live in. World is subjective, Earth is Scientific

    • @cg1906
      @cg1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thesymphonyoflife3950 id say that 2017 was the beginning of the end of the way we once viewed the world

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cg1906 why

    • @alessandromorelli5866
      @alessandromorelli5866 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shrekstaint8709 I won't come in saying that you can't trust your senses on the veracity of the existence of Earth or anything other than yourself...however....that "scientific" fact holds no value to humanity. It's just what we make out of it what matters.
      If we didn't shape it, it would be as good as nothing for us.

  • @DrWub
    @DrWub 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1647

    He already nailed the fantasy villain look.

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Dr . Wub imagine his pubic hair.....

    • @joesiemoneit4145
      @joesiemoneit4145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      to tohers he may look like jesus.. perception, dude!

    • @EagleZtoTheGrave
      @EagleZtoTheGrave 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Joe Siemoneit John the Baptist...? lol 😁

    • @joesiemoneit4145
      @joesiemoneit4145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      probably.. but jesus was the only religious freak i know ;)

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should look up Aron Ra videos. He's awesome and also some sort of god-demon

  • @tojiroh
    @tojiroh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    You want me to watch this video.
    I did it thirty-five minutes ago.

    • @frostywasp1743
      @frostywasp1743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hehe
      Okay dude cut it out
      Are you serious?

    • @frostywasp1743
      @frostywasp1743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@spiderjerusalem4009 no i got it. Nite Owl legit thought Ozymandias was joking and asked if he was serious after he reported to him his plan already happened a minute after they where seen on his base.

    • @trentknutson2970
      @trentknutson2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spiderjerusalem4009 Æ1 f2f g o lll

    • @Delicashilous
      @Delicashilous ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HAUHUCJCJIDJSJYHAHAHAA

  • @jjmblue7
    @jjmblue7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1158

    Hah, jokes on you, I was picturing Dr.Manhattans junk *before* you mentioned it.

    • @djsvideodiarys
      @djsvideodiarys 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      jjmblue7 Then you affected *his* mind. Magic.

    • @Zeithri
      @Zeithri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Don't worry.
      Dr. Manhattan's Junk pictured you long before you mentioned it.

    • @luciferangelica
      @luciferangelica 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Zeithri wow, going deep!

    • @jjmblue7
      @jjmblue7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice.

    • @aleksandarpejcic2077
      @aleksandarpejcic2077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Zeithri :D

  • @grndragon7777777
    @grndragon7777777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I believe that "end the world" means to end a way of thinking and change of an idea.

    • @jamesburk8145
      @jamesburk8145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      end of one world, beginning of another.

    • @DawnHub666
      @DawnHub666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      World was the wrong translation of aeon in the bible. It should of been aeon

  • @felicia6162
    @felicia6162 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Stephen King once explained that writing is both magic and time travel. Writing is able to take out thoughts from one time and place to another. We can see Anne Frank and Shakespeare’s thoughts and stories, despite their deaths, and the distance of time and place.

    • @TheJacklwilliams
      @TheJacklwilliams ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beautifully stated. I’ll add, it is in and of itself, immortality. Your voice, lives on.

  • @SimplyMavAgain
    @SimplyMavAgain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    Wait a second... are we Wisecrack?
    I only noticed now that Jared addresses *us* as Wisecrack.

    • @tralfamadorious
      @tralfamadorious 6 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      SimplyMav We are Wisecrack. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

    • @Zelkiiro
      @Zelkiiro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      We do not forgive. We do not forget. We only wax philosophical about pop culture.

    • @VitorMouraoddvtr
      @VitorMouraoddvtr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      .........magic

    • @simoncarlsson4841
      @simoncarlsson4841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Hey wisecrack, jared here.

    • @Lazypackmule
      @Lazypackmule 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I mean, think about it
      Have you ever seen wisecrack and vsauce in the same place

  • @jetspalt9550
    @jetspalt9550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +610

    the problem with human imagination is reality has an annoying habit of getting in the way

    • @Stoney-Jacksman
      @Stoney-Jacksman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro..that reminded me of this soundcloud.com/scruffnuk-dust/scruffnuk-new-tape-coming-up

    • @MissBaghira
      @MissBaghira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You said it perfectly!

    • @MonologueManiaWithER
      @MonologueManiaWithER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Disagree. Everyone perceives reality differently. Its the similarities shared in the multiple perceptions which most begrudgingly compromise to as reality.

    • @towermoss
      @towermoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This is a hollow statement.

    • @thescarecrowman
      @thescarecrowman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@MonologueManiaWithER We can perceive a hot stove to be cold, yet we will still burn ourselves when we touch it. Philosophical nonsense doesn't change how the world works.

  • @gewitterhund3164
    @gewitterhund3164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    "For the magician expectation creates perspective"
    Same applies to those who research quantum mechanics.
    So in this light the Clarke's quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" matches perfectly here.

    • @matthewhearn9910
      @matthewhearn9910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ritual magicians have all been EXTREMELY into quantum mechanics ever since the field was first proposed. You see writings by Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons about how exciting it was that science looked like it might give proof to the fundamental points of their philosophy. And the variety of magick that Grant Morrison practices, chaos magick, was mostly developed by physicians and mathematicians working in the field of quantum mechanics.

    • @pacotaco1246
      @pacotaco1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matthewhearn9910 when you say physicians do you mean physicists?

    • @jejetube7667
      @jejetube7667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pacotaco1246 he does

  • @jaylittle6465
    @jaylittle6465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    This just sold me Promethea

    • @0oidiedinatimemachineo024
      @0oidiedinatimemachineo024 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      its really good definitely check it out..its interesting writing basically explaining hermeticism and moores philosophy in comic format also the art and layout of each issue is fucking INCREDIBLE.

    • @arlosteiner8382
      @arlosteiner8382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Promethea is great as it's basically just Moore telling you his beliefs

    • @bevrosity
      @bevrosity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      enjoy! its my fav comic of all time, and i have read a lot of comics lol

    • @rumorcontrol7873
      @rumorcontrol7873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are in to Satanism sure, but get fucked if so

    • @dannyzep92
      @dannyzep92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I bought the 5 hardcover books of the series and it's a fantastic read.

  • @SD-qt1fs
    @SD-qt1fs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Philosophy of Niel Gaimann should be the next one after Alan Moore.

  • @adil8402
    @adil8402 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Definitely one of the most profound videos I've seen in a long time. This is why I love Wisecrack

  • @TomFinsterMusic
    @TomFinsterMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I love "V for Vendetta" - the comic is even better than the movie!

    • @dweetsauce8513
      @dweetsauce8513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      “If the movie is the same as the comic, there’s no reason to watch the movie at all”. Just saying. Even though the movie isn’t like the comic, its still great.

    • @dwainpannell8366
      @dwainpannell8366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most comics are better than their media adoptions

    • @TighelanderII
      @TighelanderII ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dweetsauce8513 The number of people that will watch a movie is much larger than those that have read the comic.

    • @TighelanderII
      @TighelanderII ปีที่แล้ว

      I think an audio book or a radio play would have been a better choice than a movie.

  • @vicenteortegarubilar9418
    @vicenteortegarubilar9418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +628

    This is MOORE of what I love from this channel.
    I don't only want MOORE' I need MOORE.

    • @conorgildea1163
      @conorgildea1163 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This took me way to long to get the joke

    • @dadeleemurphy85
      @dadeleemurphy85 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol. Womp Womp.

    • @Mananpicar
      @Mananpicar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Some people get by with a little understanding.
      BUT I WANT MOORE

    • @dadeleemurphy85
      @dadeleemurphy85 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is good, I'm going to treat you all to lunch . Dinty -MOORE beef stew anyone ? There's MOORE to it than Campbells .

    • @patrickholtz
      @patrickholtz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      more! Moore!

  • @gurulaghima6518
    @gurulaghima6518 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Alan Moore signed my copy of watchmen babies

    • @austineaton2646
      @austineaton2646 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeevan Singh When? I thought he doesn’t do that.

    • @WouterCloetens
      @WouterCloetens 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did he do it with magic? I.e. did you imagine it? 😉

    • @tameston5467
      @tameston5467 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jeevan Singh is that a Simpson's reference ?

    • @YasirMAnjum
      @YasirMAnjum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which one is your favorite?

    • @V4W
      @V4W 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Lloyd signed my copy of V for vendetta... maybe one day i come across Allan Moore.

  • @Cthulhuman
    @Cthulhuman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a student of Hermeticism this made me so happy. People are so blind to the "immaterial" aspects of life and because of this blindness they walk like those who are asleep, as though they are the body and nothing more. To be awake is to be aware of not just your body and your surroundings but of your MIND and your SPIRIT. To ignore both is a fallacy, you are not your thoughts, but instead are a receiver of thoughts from points throughout your body. You are judge over these thoughts and it is your job to tend to them. However, most people are unaware that they should be judge over their thoughts, and instead they perceive that their thoughts are their own. This then essentially makes all of man kind like sleep walkers that are being driven by these unseen forces thinking that they are in control all along. So be Woke and judge your thoughts as if they are suggestions from your neighbor instead of a creation of your own.

  • @EnricoRodolico
    @EnricoRodolico 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    15:20 I'm pretty sure it's "Professor Einstein," not "Her father in his time."

    • @M05tly
      @M05tly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't the point be that their neither and both at the same time?

    • @EnricoRodolico
      @EnricoRodolico 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@M05tlyper=her? Facer=father? How are those phonetically related?

    • @pedroalmodovar6087
      @pedroalmodovar6087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I was thinking the same

    • @nodiggity9472
      @nodiggity9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Einstein had no academic Degrees or Doctorates, so that would be "Mr Einstein".

  • @silentknightjeffries8372
    @silentknightjeffries8372 6 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    #MoreMoore That was amazing and slightly trippy. You have started me on my own path of research into hermeticism and reading more of Alans work.

  • @meisam9592
    @meisam9592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This demands a Terence McKenna episode.

    • @JBBost
      @JBBost 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh shit!

    • @JBBost
      @JBBost 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd like to see a Robert Anton Wilson episode!

    • @sebastiand2506
      @sebastiand2506 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was thinking the same

    • @XxCorvette1xX
      @XxCorvette1xX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol I learned about hermeticism through Terence. Fucking brilliant man

  • @boblordofevil
    @boblordofevil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is my favorite work you've done so far. Excellent analysis, delving into the deeper ideas of the meta-narrative. Consistently balanced work. I came here to subscribe after watching many videos, and to comment on particular on the challenging material you've dealt with her with expertise befitting high academia. Looking forward to your work on The Sopranos.

  • @nateblack8669
    @nateblack8669 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Robert Plant's evil twin.

  • @BenMaxVideos
    @BenMaxVideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I clicked so hard on this video I am so frickin' pumped please do more videos on comics/comic creators thanks bye

  • @RetroGamePlayers
    @RetroGamePlayers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    First time I read the Watchmen I was transformed.

    • @withnail-and-i
      @withnail-and-i 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Try the Saga of the Swamp Thing. I'd seriously place it on the same level as Watchmen when it hits its peak.

    • @WickedNemesis
      @WickedNemesis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely agreed.

    • @jgchalmers
      @jgchalmers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it was good, i liked the movie ending more tho

    • @onlythequestion
      @onlythequestion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'll never forget turning the page to the blood-drenched devastation of NYC. That's powerful art.

    • @scifislack
      @scifislack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same man, it's an incredible book.

  • @chantingzhang
    @chantingzhang 6 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    As I watched this video a third time an epiphany came to me, I think Moore's prediction of "the world's end" was right, and he had at only missed the mark a year or two, not earlier, but LATER.
    the age of popular internet and the explosion of social media did indeed overwhelmed us as a species with excessive knowledge, exceeding what we can reasonably consume when we were first biologically conjured as cavemen, and the "realization" of the immaterial and the material being just as real did indeed dawned upon us, whether we like it or not, just as Moore predicted.
    Yet unfortunately, it did not occur in the way Moore, or any idealist thinker hoped, instead of waking everyone up to the possibilities of creating better things on the world through imagination, the same realization of the immaterial instead drove people into the realms of natural tribalism and fear. The extreme left started to see the entire world as a battlefield, everything can be perceived as oppression, and everyone an oppressor, closing off all possibilities communication to the other side, "helping" the oppressed without even listening to their true wishes or the effects of their own actions; mean while the extreme right started to see themselves as a tribe under siege, with everything new and unfamiliar opposing them and has to be crushed to preserve their identity, and started to see all educated elites swindlers peddling corporate interests, and fall back on their own visceral emotion as the judgement criteria for all things; meanwhile in the background, common reality started to decay and liquefy in alarming pace, as everyone retrieve to their own information bubble of social media and echo chamber new sources for "the truth"
    This is not merely happening in America, this is what is happening behind the global revolt against globalization and the new wave of anti-intellectualism.
    This is the nightmare version of everything Moore envisioned, the dark side of the coin of the immaterial, of imagination as perceived reality, I think Moore didn't predict this happening, he imagined people would be able to balance the material, and the immaterial, and thus becoming creative juggernauts while maintaining a firm grasp of objective reality, but it turns out, the minds of our human brethren are still too young, still too prone to the mechanisms of human nature: tribalism, conflict seeking, and fear.
    I only hope this is temporary, and the grasp of object reality will return to us all to balance the override of the immaterial.

    • @thunderousmountain3351
      @thunderousmountain3351 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      This is an underrated comment. My hope is that this Global Waking Nightmare is the catalyst for a metaphorical Great Awakening, a species-wide version of jolting upright in bed after a particularly horrific dream.

    • @seanburrows1220
      @seanburrows1220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I think it was more like “the end of the world... as we know it” and Moore was absolutely right. I see so many people slowly waking up to this though not many on the internet.
      Discussions about consciousness, reality, perception, awakening and enlightenment are commonplace; science and language is developing to describe consciousness in the individual which is in turn developing our understanding of it. When we apply “as above, so below” to consciousness we can conceptualise how we are a component of a grand collective consciousness and simultaneously an individual

    • @simonkim1997
      @simonkim1997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      really interesting point

    • @josephcarlo85
      @josephcarlo85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is a great comment man. Like Moore said, the world is both material and immaterial, and in this case, he was talking about the immaterial world. Or in other words, the way we perceive imagination will also change.

    • @daniel4647
      @daniel4647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I think he was right, at least to a lot of people. I've never read most of his comics, but I did read the source material as a teenager, Occult books. For a long time I thought it was all bullshit, but a little while after Trump was elected, my brain basically exploded for lack of a better analogy, overload by just vastly opposing concepts that where both equally true, and the world was destroyed, literally my entire concept of reality was gone in an instant. When this happened I realized that what I read as a teenager was not all bullshit but actually very accurate and insightful when interpreted correctly. This whole thing was a pretty big shock to me having spent most of my adult life a very rational science minded person. So to figure out what was happening I started looking around for other people who had this experience, and it turns out there are quite a lot of them. There seems to be something to what he's saying about this global awakening. I do think it will be more of a gradual change for most though, but I do think it has already happened, I think the people experiencing this ego death sort of experience has reached critical mass and the world will change quite a bit because of it. As always in our world though it will be a slow change and not without opposition or struggle, not an instant change. It's not so easy to tell anymore, but we're in a war right now, a spiritual war in many ways. Not only will it lay waste to all the dogmatic religions of old, but challenge the dogma of science as well. Once upon a time long ago, spirituality and science separated as science just went full speed ahead leaving spirituality in the dust, but it seems spirituality is catching up, and soon they must merge again so we may fulfill our destiny. The Magician dude is totally right, our imagination creates reality, in more ways than we probably understand right now. Thinking positive is not a joke, your mind literally shapes reality, so be mindful of your thoughts young Padawan. And I should probably learn to take my own advice hehe. Anyway, loved the comment, bit bleak but good, thanks for writing.

  • @zaidanahnaf9431
    @zaidanahnaf9431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine Alan Moore adaptation directed by Stanley Kubrick

  • @SylvEdu
    @SylvEdu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    This video is one of the best explanations of the Bard class in D&D -- that words and art and song and memes have real magical power that influence the world in a perceivable way, and one need merely learn to tap into the power of consciousness to wield it.

    • @luciferangelica
      @luciferangelica 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Azzy they base a lot of stuff in d and d, at least loosely, on real world myths

    • @burnintrees420
      @burnintrees420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DnD is the shit to introduce teenage minds to

    • @luciferangelica
      @luciferangelica 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i also really liked the white wolf shit

    • @apokatastasian2831
      @apokatastasian2831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the bardiest thing i've ever read, no multi-classing or anything

    • @ZesPak
      @ZesPak 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Playing a wizard now, deffo want to try out bard for my next character.

  • @francisemv1788
    @francisemv1788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    More of this please.

    • @Hewhowantstoknow
      @Hewhowantstoknow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *Moore

    • @DYFortescue
      @DYFortescue 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Moore orf displease

    • @funny3291
      @funny3291 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More Moore please

    • @halkeye20
      @halkeye20 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More Moore

    • @joelhaggis5054
      @joelhaggis5054 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DY Fortescue the existence of this comment is a highly underated phenomenom.
      (Do do dodo doo)

  • @promethiamoore6462
    @promethiamoore6462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these videos that you rewatch hundreds of times from time to time unconsciously

  • @jacksonw453
    @jacksonw453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Alan Moore never ceases to blow my mind

    • @alanjudd7537
      @alanjudd7537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Your Mind is Blown' you can get Tablets for that' though they are cheaper from Down the Vets. Just Don't touch the purple ones

  • @RobRJW
    @RobRJW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm glad I've been watching your channel since 2015 because if this was my first video from you guys I would be having a existential crisis right now.

  • @jimbolimboboy
    @jimbolimboboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I’m 100% down for further analysis of Alan Moore! Would you guys ever be interested in running a book club as I’d love to read a chapter(s) along with weekly analysis by yourself in video / audio format. Hearing you talk of Promethea and jarousailm seems like there’s potential!

    • @prince_dogboy
      @prince_dogboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jimbolimboboy i have to agree with you that a "book club" would be pretty cool.

  • @MinaTess
    @MinaTess 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! You explained the subject (Alan Moore's viewpoint of hermeticism) extraordinarily well in a brief period of time, plus you kept me entertained. Thank you. 🤔

  • @JuanDavidBedoyaR
    @JuanDavidBedoyaR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need more of this, thankyou for this awesome video

  • @gonzapra1
    @gonzapra1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    At 2:23 the ad ends.

  • @damiensiemer9780
    @damiensiemer9780 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a fantastic video. I'm always impressed by your videos Wisecrack team, but this one really shines.

  • @lizardking939
    @lizardking939 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work!

  • @rogeriorodrigues4210
    @rogeriorodrigues4210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You totally killed it at 1:17
    [...] If you want Moore (Suspense theme) hahahaha
    Great video by the way!

  • @tricky1800
    @tricky1800 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is and forever will be one of my favorite videos of yours

  • @LouchiLouchiano
    @LouchiLouchiano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have been trying to explain this to people and it scares me. But this guy has done what I don’t have the tools and know how. Thank u

    • @thewolfin
      @thewolfin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It scares you because it scares them

  • @regretto
    @regretto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I forgot what it felt like to read watchmen years ago - like reading one of the greatest works of literature, which it is. thanks for reminding and telling more - the man is fascinating and his ideas are grandiose (i find). you've got one of the gratest channels on youtube, keep up the good work.

  • @thecomprehensionhub4612
    @thecomprehensionhub4612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos to the editing effects. Raw creativity

  • @solidkingcobra
    @solidkingcobra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tom Strong, Promethea, Top Ten, and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are one of his highly underrated works that everyone should check out.

  • @richardadams1913
    @richardadams1913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Holy shit this is my favorite video to date. I love Alan Moore!

  • @starwarsgeek1oo
    @starwarsgeek1oo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jared I love your content! Kicking ass at Wisecrack man

  • @DrTiagoLobo
    @DrTiagoLobo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best choice of video you guys have ever made.
    Also, notice how this and the Full Metal Alchemist video are basically teaching one lesson. Different ways of seeing the world enrich it, and our understanding of it. And, ultimately, they all say the same thing, from different perspectives.
    Please Wisecrack, do more videos on these concepts. It's refreshing to see how Science, Religion, Philosophy, Mathematics, Hermetism, Art, etc. can all be used to study reality from different angles, and provide different levels of interpretation.

  • @ntnl1212
    @ntnl1212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    i miss thug notes

    • @XxzanesterxX
      @XxzanesterxX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ntnl1212 yeah whatever happened to my man anyway

    • @steliostoulis1875
      @steliostoulis1875 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don't

    • @afonsolucas2219
      @afonsolucas2219 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't they do a Ready Player One recently?

    • @ZombieHitler
      @ZombieHitler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Books suck.
      Get the book. Then be a Thug Paladin.
      Nigga you can get your ass whooped with class. Detroit is doing it, I think. Paintball wars.
      That's how easy it WAS to solve gun violence, for, with, and by America, but people still think we want to emulate Australia. They think they're tough just cuz they got big spiders. Buy a gun, prick.

    • @Snardvark25
      @Snardvark25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jay Tee I can't tell what you're suggesting. Books suck so get a gun? Some people in Detroit playing paintball doesn't stop gun violence.

  • @arthameadors8952
    @arthameadors8952 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is one of the best Wisecrack videos.

  • @MyStoryQuest
    @MyStoryQuest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Video is PURE GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well Done!

  • @_step_0_
    @_step_0_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic, more content!! Wonderful video :D

  • @SLFKimosabae
    @SLFKimosabae 6 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Good stuff. I own Jerusalem but couldn't make it passed 20 pages or so. Didn't know what I was getting into at all. Gonna have to give it another go. Moore breakdowns like this and less Rick and Morty, please.

    • @diezmayfield7339
      @diezmayfield7339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I see what you did there ;)

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jerusalem was designed that way. The first 50 pages are deliberately hard to get through (Moore called it "an anti idiocy device") which he later regretted. Once you get past that and get into it, Jerusalem is an amazing work.

    • @user-uq4gr5nl5o
      @user-uq4gr5nl5o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@medes5597 That seems counter productive, considering he wants to change everyone's mind and not just some people's.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-uq4gr5nl5o his idea, not mine. Take it up with him. Probably why he regretted it though.

    • @Punaparta
      @Punaparta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@medes5597 He himself described it as being "to keep out the scum".

  • @OrionCanning
    @OrionCanning 6 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This is definitely what I am interested in seeing more of. I have read some of Moores writings on magic and I think it's basically true. It's very similar to memetics, ideas like racism or captalism are completely made up by humans, but they can be spread virally. Paradigm shifts occur when the amount of people who believe an idea to be true reaches a critical mass that allows for those ideas to be actualized in society, usually via laws and regulations, which are another sort of spell.
    Laws give justification for enforcement of those ideas upon other people and therefore reality, though more often than not many people are only superficially forced to follow a law while not believing in the ideas behind those laws. Laws are fought through civil disobedience, symbolic action that defies the so called truth behind laws, or the other side of the coin, being a criminal, which is just another way of saying the same thing.
    The only line between criminality and civil disobedience is generally whether the act is harmful to others or not, either intentionally, or through neglect or recklessness. But ultimately the line is defined by what people will allow, and what people believe to be true, or can be convinced to believe, specifically what people believe counts as harm to others. Fascist rule exists by creating a stranglehold on reality through laws and control of what people are told is true via media and education, in conjunction with laws and policies that are essentially criminal in of themselves, due to the amount that they bring harm to others.
    The battle over reality takes place in courtrooms, on TV, in movies, and in classrooms on a macro level, and on a micro level through everyday conversations about these ideas, whether face to face or online. Though a widely distributed idea in any form, whether blockbuster film, tweet, or comic book, can have a macro level effect.

    • @bruhbro9951
      @bruhbro9951 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orion Canning i

    • @OrionCanning
      @OrionCanning 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      U

    • @caramelconundrum9280
      @caramelconundrum9280 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @alexl1178
      @alexl1178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All of this is very tiring, isn't it?

    • @OrionCanning
      @OrionCanning 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kuroda Cursus the comic books and movies are cool, but yeah, the constant stream of corporate and political propoganda got old a long time ago.

  • @niirceollae2
    @niirceollae2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woah.... thank you for making this video

  • @dirtydanandthebasketballbo305
    @dirtydanandthebasketballbo305 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a good video man!

  • @crackedpince-nez131
    @crackedpince-nez131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Grant Morrison next? (Then Lynch?)

    • @bevrosity
      @bevrosity 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cracked Pince-Nez i say more wizards as well.

    • @RideASpaceCowboy
      @RideASpaceCowboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes!!! I'd love to write a philosophy of Grant Morrison! "Supergods" is my favorite autobiography I've ever read, simply because it's so insane. One chapter he talks about ascending to heaven and meeting alien angels, the next he's talking about how the original Spider-man movie performed, and the next he's talking about meeting Jesus.

    • @ProjektBurn
      @ProjektBurn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cracked Pince-Nez so much yes! Grant is the polar opposite of Moore when it comes to magick. They both come at the same thing from different sides. And both openly express magick in everything they do.

    • @crackedpince-nez131
      @crackedpince-nez131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ian Katz-Mager Man I miss there being a Disinfo Con. I remember I saw that video when I was 16 and just starting to introduce Crowley and Spare into my life. Abducted by aliens in Kathmandu Valley!!

    • @cyco7229
      @cyco7229 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lynch, and Jodorowsky

  • @KristenPimley
    @KristenPimley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I didn't realize that Wisecrack's audience was mostly men until I saw the sponsor! Cool product.
    Edit: I'd also love to see the relationship between Laurie and Sally Jupiter explored. It was the highlight of Before Watchmen for me.

    • @avinashsekhon1024
      @avinashsekhon1024 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kristen Marie Pimley it’s probably cause 80-85% of TH-cam’s viewers are men

    • @insertnamehere373137
      @insertnamehere373137 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kristen Marie Pimley Before Watchmen had its ups and downs, but the Silk Spectre and Minutemen ones were pretty darn good

    • @Illier1
      @Illier1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun fact Hims hair loss meds have ED as a side effect, which they use the opportunity to sell you the penis pills.
      Also I wouldn't reccomend taking any meds you get online from doctors who are paid to try and sell you the product.

    • @Monkeyshaman
      @Monkeyshaman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kristen Marie Pimley or their audience is solely young women struggling with social cues gifting their dads a getting old, growing bald kit for his seventieth.

    • @andersonandrighi4539
      @andersonandrighi4539 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Avinash Sekhon* I don't thnik so. There are 1.57 billion active youtube accounts. It is more like 50/50

  • @healitoon2769
    @healitoon2769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is my favourite wiscrack vid and I wish there were Moore

  • @Teliu09
    @Teliu09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Isn't the text showed at 15:30 is professor Einstein and not her father?

  • @vakreswar
    @vakreswar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Please do Philosophy of Grant Morrison

  • @Nicolas-Kage
    @Nicolas-Kage 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude, there has to be a Miracle man episode, unless it's already happened

  • @nil_blank
    @nil_blank 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a good dive. Thanks!

  • @joadic
    @joadic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more of this stuff!!!

  • @SCBarrus
    @SCBarrus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So I bought Promethea halfway through this video. Excited to read it.

  • @tylerclausen9128
    @tylerclausen9128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Hi Wisecrack folks,
    Are there still new episodes of Thug Notes being made? I miss it!

    • @aaronyandell2929
      @aaronyandell2929 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tyler Clausen Sparky Sweets may have split off to do other stuff? It's a shame, really. His series is good stuff.

    • @tylerclausen9128
      @tylerclausen9128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aaron Yandell I hope he comes back soon and continues his literary style!

  • @TheMAU5SoundsLikThis
    @TheMAU5SoundsLikThis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this!

  • @davidcarzell9081
    @davidcarzell9081 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw this coming.... You crushed this. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @RealSancez
    @RealSancez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    If you do V for Vendetta, please don't do the movie, do the comic book.

  • @GokuSnake
    @GokuSnake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Wisecrack. You're my favorite TH-cam channel. I always learn while eating dinner and watching you. Can you please do a video on House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewesky?

  • @IanDWolfe
    @IanDWolfe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve watched this three times. Really interesting

  • @LeeoJohnsonTV
    @LeeoJohnsonTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lived this video! Even got a laugh when you called Amy Adams "Lois Lane" with a straight face lol.

  • @Eudaimonia239
    @Eudaimonia239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Love moore, next do neil gainman, or grant morrison

    • @alanjudd7537
      @alanjudd7537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      or do the man with the ''Blown Mind'' first, Sounds like He needs Attention. then do the Rest of the People on here, all Holding up their arms to score points from Sir with their abstract ideas and (semi Blown Minds)

  • @rustecohle591
    @rustecohle591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Please do the philosophy of:
    Huey freeman
    Spike spiegel or cowboy bebop

    • @luciferangelica
      @luciferangelica 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brent Pilgrim good idea. boondocks is brilliant!

    • @bevrosity
      @bevrosity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they just recently did bebop

  • @JedidiahOjeh
    @JedidiahOjeh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need more of this

  • @chloezaffran3552
    @chloezaffran3552 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this video, it got me to read Promethea and got my mind blown apart in several ways. I'm not even done reading the whole comic yet!

  • @rolingk267
    @rolingk267 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Could you guys do the Philosophy of Urusawa's "Monster"?

    • @darrickfranklin7096
      @darrickfranklin7096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roling K Well it would be sort of the same as the philosophy of The Joker Atleast the interesting parts with Johan who is a nihilist.

    • @robertacojones8824
      @robertacojones8824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be far more interesting 20th Century boys

    • @legendbemyname1638
      @legendbemyname1638 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roling K yes! So underrated

    • @EagleZtoTheGrave
      @EagleZtoTheGrave 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Revoking this channel if they don't... lol

    • @BaTa-de6jn
      @BaTa-de6jn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roling K Why do people like Monster so much ? Not that it was bad manga or anything , but since there are so many other Urasawa works out there you might think that someone would mention something else (Billy bat , Yawara , Pluto , Master Keaton etc) . Can someone explain why ??

  • @remonbasu7286
    @remonbasu7286 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you wisecrack,Very cool!
    But for real tho
    Amazing analysis into what Moore is trying to preach,I don't necessarily agree(nihilistic as I am) but I will love to look into his works for the sake of art (and morbid curiosity).

  • @newleveldesign3647
    @newleveldesign3647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only watch Wisecrack when Jared presents. Thx again.

  • @Sammy-cm9ce
    @Sammy-cm9ce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm vibing so hard with Alan Moore rn 🔥✨

  • @ethanrummel7638
    @ethanrummel7638 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I think is idea of language as magic is pretty similar to some of the ideas of Wittgenstein, that we are all playing 'language games' where by we do not simply communicate our perception of reality by imbue it with meaning and form by our means of communication. The whole world ending thing though is crazy.

    • @jesusomarcastanedamendez6371
      @jesusomarcastanedamendez6371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually Moore describes the end of the world as Nietzsche describes the death of God, something necesary to take humanity on a higher ground.

    • @Singedthebrony
      @Singedthebrony 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It makes more sense if you think of it as the world (as we know it). The world will still be here, but everything that humans experience will be different.

    • @inventor121
      @inventor121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well I'm pretty sure all it takes is a few choice words from washington for the world to end

    • @inventor121
      @inventor121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well now I know what they mean by all intellectuals go to hell. And here I thought we were just starring in a crazier version of Idiocracy

    • @blehhblehh2477
      @blehhblehh2477 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, you can't deny that if we all suddenly stopped seeing things only one way, which is each individual's way, and perceived and interpreted in multiple, which is everybody else's way, while still including yours, the current state of the world would end, either for better or for worse.

  • @devinmayhew2872
    @devinmayhew2872 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how you guys presented him as a "wizard" so I would think he's a loon, then proceed to convince me of his beliefs and wonder why more people don't agree. Wisecrack, slowly making us loons.
    Anyways, do Philosophy of True Detective

  • @zulu2885
    @zulu2885 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been a transforming
    I saw myself evolve over the course of the video
    It was surreal
    Thank you for putting such immense thought and effort
    You have changed one soul for sure

    • @V4W
      @V4W 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      your thanks should go to Alan Moore...

    • @zulu2885
      @zulu2885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@V4W i got introduced to him thhrough the video and have certainly been in awe ever since, there are very little access to comics in india but from whatever i found online of his work has made me a fan for sure

  • @markw8825
    @markw8825 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible work. Well done.

  • @tylerhendrix3509
    @tylerhendrix3509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Philosophy of Cowboy Bebop, please

  • @EdStar36
    @EdStar36 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wow TH-cam recommendation been on point

  • @gianmarcozoffoli9891
    @gianmarcozoffoli9891 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting! More Moore please!

  • @Aristocracycomcis
    @Aristocracycomcis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    please moore of this !!

  • @Haggismchaggish
    @Haggismchaggish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    more please!

  • @Zokolov
    @Zokolov 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Philosophy of Watchmen/V for Vendetta?

  • @apostolidispeter2499
    @apostolidispeter2499 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video, more plz!!1!

  • @shainzen
    @shainzen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fraking amazing episode!!!!!

  • @stiltzkinvanserine5164
    @stiltzkinvanserine5164 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Please teach us the philosophy of 120 Days of Sodom!

  • @rzq100
    @rzq100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow gotta say when you hit me with the premise I was expecting nothing but pure bullshit but Moore's ideas are actually really interesting and at least somewhat grounded in reality. While I'm not sure I'm convinced of his conclusions it's certainly something to think about.

    • @Zanziebar
      @Zanziebar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ideas are better than conclusions because they can be changed.

    • @thedehypnotist
      @thedehypnotist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zanziebar underrated comment;

  • @liltaco4119
    @liltaco4119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:14
    I kid u not, these exact words came out of my mouth literally during this exact moment.

  • @lonewolfjuannieves7059
    @lonewolfjuannieves7059 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this one ❤️ a bit more each time I see it.

  • @dearpanda
    @dearpanda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    the sponsor was questionable.

    • @dejavoodu521
      @dejavoodu521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not so much when you think of Doctor Manhattan is bald and Owlman (2) has trouble getting it up. Just saying.

    • @kokopai
      @kokopai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An ad targeting super villains

  • @yokilewis4894
    @yokilewis4894 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I don't know who watches the watchmen, but I DO know the wise watches wisecrack

    • @nerdinvader6740
      @nerdinvader6740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yoki Lewis Damn right son, WE'RE WISE

  • @BeverlyChillzz
    @BeverlyChillzz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a part two. Pleeeeeease guys. Please.

  • @maximilianovaldes3694
    @maximilianovaldes3694 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the videos I love