Best Router for Custom Car Audio - Porter Cable 890
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
- The Porter Cable 890 Series router and accessories is in my opinion the BEST choice for custom car audio. Variable speed, plenty of power, 1/4" and 1/2" collets for router bits, but best of all... The base design allows you to easily make a cost effective router table. Pickup one of these and you will have a GREAT start for building custom audio.
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UPDATE: Porter Cable has discontinued this router, BUT I HAVE A NEW SOLUTION!
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UPDATE: Porter Cable has discontinued this router, BUT I HAVE A NEW SOLUTION!
The Bosch Router below is nearly identical in performance and features and now my new go to!
Bosch Router: amzn.to/3c5I8yF
Router and Plunge Base Combo: amzn.to/3ecPgMk
As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Mark, does the Bosch still have the height adjustment if you mount it under instead of using a true router lift to make a router table?
@@erikmartin8383 In the link you will find the "Under-mount/ Under-table Base w/ Hex Key" option... I have the PC-892 setup and the Bosch-1617 and both work great!
A couple Amazon reviews hinted at issues using this router inverted in a table? Have you had any issues? In another video, I was amazed at how quiet your router was! My older cheaper craftsman is obnoxiously loud... great helpful videos - thank You!
I had a craftsman one for $45
Back in the day that lasted a long time where the cheap suckers at?
Just bought the whole kit for the 890 series router! Building a router table and designing it as we speak! These informative videos seriously helped boost my woodworking hobby! Thanks CAF
Nice! Enjoy it!
4yrs later and still very helpful. Thanks for the videos..
I love my PC 890. I have it mounted on my homemade CNC, and it takes everything I can throw at it. I've been a big fan of Porter Cable routers for 30 years, and know professionals who use the same Porter Cable routers we can get in their shops daily. Some of these routers are over 40 years old, too. Blow the motor out with compressed air when you're finished using it that day, put brushes in it when they wear out, and it'll outlive all of us.
A couple of tips for the use of a PC 890. It's main weak point is the spindle lock. I would respectfully suggest you don't even use it. Use two 1 1/8" wrenches to tighten and loosen the collet. Next, take the bit and collet out of the router when you're finished using it. It's much easier to get out than it is if you leave it in until you need to use it the next time. You can get 1/8" (as well as other sizes) collets for it from Elaire Corp, if you use smaller bits like I do. I would also suggest keeping a spare set of motor brushes on hand. They're not expensive, and they're real easy to replace. All motor brushes wear out, and having a set on hand, ready to go, means less down time when it suddenly decides not to work.
Great video! I've really been enjoying your work! Please keep 'em coming!
Great point on the spindle lock, I didn’t think to mention that, I too always use two wrenches rather than bothering with the lock. Good idea on having some extra brushes on hand too. Time to order some!
I build all kinds of things in my shop. What I like about your videos is that it doesn't matter if I build a bookcase, speaker box or wine rack your techniques are always a help. I've been building for years, but I have learned a lot from these videos. You turned my router into a center piece of my shop. Before I just used it for edge details and occasional dove tails.
Oh, I have several routers, but my 890 is my fav! Great video Mark! Keep them coming!
great work man... as others have said, your description of this router is better than most woodworking videos I've seen. thank you! I actually bought this router already but had no idea how to use it. Thank you!
I just picked up my Porter Cable 890 kit with plunge attachment and two hard cases!! Thank you Mark for putting out such great videos and teaching me techniques I would of otherwise never known of. Starting to get back into mobile car audio and this channel has been a huge help!!
the fab kitchen puts out good videos constantly... but this is down right one of the best ones for home DIYers yet.. you've earned a sub from me 👍
Thanks! I really would love to see more guys diving into this!
grizzlybear702 FAB Lab represent‼️I just wish he had more time to put out more! But I know it takes a long time to make and edit these videos so I'm not hatin👍👍
Yes the Porter cable 890 is badass it uses a PID controller for speed control. By the way you can get it as a package with both fixed and plunge bases.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller
I have several routers and I always wondered why guys had more than a couple routers. I have 4 and now I know! Not changing bits and having a dual lift setup has sped production so much. Now I'm trying to build a collection of bits and templates
I've been in the market for a router but didn't know where to start. This helped a lot! Way more explanation than any other video I've seen. Thank you!
My 2 favorite things, Car Audio and Tool reviews! Great video as always.
Thanks for watching!
Yep.. Have absolutely loved the 890.. Took a chance on your recommendation maybe a year and a half ago, and have been thrilled ever since. From just speaker rings to my full infinite baffle build, and various projects, along with being able to do a nice job with an IB rear-deck baffle as a "thank you" for a great seasoned competition pro who helped me learn to fiberglass. The 890 is THE router I would recommend.
Just get the one he has. By cheap by twice.
Tools are one thing you don't want to skimp on. You can do home wood working too, it will pay for it's self.
buy cheap buy twice you mean?
I thought I would get the best review about this product from a carpenter.. but no.. it came from a Car Audio Fabrication... great video... I bought this router... and I need some pointers... best video out there.
YES!! Thank you SO MUCH for this awesome video! I was wondering what the cheapest (easiest) method of converting an area of my workbench into a router table. This will work perfectly, thanks again Mark!
Thanks Mark for this vid. I always wanted a router table, but i never knew how to make a really cheap one, that would work. I did search on you tube on how to make a router table and it is so complicating or to much work to make one. You have just made my life easier about 6 hrs easier in making a router table. with only one tool and a few holes and a piece of wood. thanks again.
Im buying this so i can make my amp rack and subwoofer box when i get home. Ive watched tons of your videos and have learned so much.
Dude, i think i love you. Thank you so much. I know it almost been a year, but you have just saved me soo much money and time
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i like that it dos not have to turn to go up down. the power cord dos not rap around it to go up down in the table.
Thanks alot i bought this exact router cant wait to start doing custom car audio!
Holy crap I need that adjuster, have the same router and didn't even know this existed! I just figured the extra holes where for some other router but that will make it so much easier than what I was doing. The plunge base is nice and it does make it slightly safer to use as you don't have to rock the base when you're starting. Another advantage with the PC is my local tool repair company stocks the parts and the bearings so I can get back up same day.
Dude read my mind. I bought some tools and some wood and built my own. Came out impressive enough for others to ask me to build for them. I'm my case, the tools got the job done but they would not do for an actual builder. Sometimes its best to spend the extra few dollars on a better tool the first time than having to buy another because the lower priced model may make you work harder than you have to. Love the video. Keep em coming bro
Thanks a lot for this video! I wish I found your channel earlier so I could avoid a lot of mistakes I've made in my previous projects
Great video what looking into getting one and you made it easy thank you!
Just purchased Thanks for the review and demo!
Your the best and greatly appreciated for all your hard work and dedication
Thank you for making this video! Exactly what I was looking for :)
Nice! May have to pick this up. I sooo want to do more custom things!
Thanks Mark. I bought a cheap Craftsman router table with no speed adjustment, and only accepts quarter inch bits. I love my Porter Cable drill and impact driver.
I used my router to cut a wire access channel behind the trim moulding to hide wires joining RGB LED steps under my kitchen cabinets. I know, unrelated to car audio. But man I'm thanking this hobby for the tools I've collected and find many uses for!
I build non car audio stuff all the time, the lady loves the skill set, benches, chair cushions, etc!
Great Video as always Mark! I have a Craftsman 320.17543 which appears very similar to your Porter Cable. I've been saving up for a JessEm lift but after seeing this I might be able to do something similar to what you did here. Great ideas as always!
Thanks Mark. Just what I needed to know before I brought one.
This video is so helpful and informative. Thank you!
Hey man thanks a lot for all your videos you’re been very helpful to me in so many way and I can say enough about your ideas basically you answer all my questions hope all the best for you and keep going , cheers from Montreal 🇨🇦
Fantastic! I really like the custom built router table with dust collection idea.
Thanks for sharing! As always very informative, and I'm appreciative for you sharing your knowledge. Till next time!
Thank you! Great video. That table DIY is brilliant. I have been shopping for routers, so timing works well for me. I watch all your videos as they come out, this one was perfect timing! Any tips on bits? Brands/types/materials?
I just bought a bosch router pretty much has all the features of this router from what i can see i did get the porterhouse 690 but i made my own router table and i realized i couldnt adjust from above it
I been thinking about building something like this. Nice video...
Dude I Deadass love watching this channel late at night🔊😎
Bru'h, I just bought this router kit thanks to one thing I didn't see on any of the other router reviews, YOU CAN UNLOCK TO BASE WITH THE SAME TOOL YOU ADJUST THE HEIGHT! YEESS!!!!
Yes I love this feature. Makes making into a cost effective router table all on its own very possible
great video mark! Thank you
WOW! That's actually pretty cheap :O I was always under the impression that routers cost well over $600-700 :D Will deffinetly consider buying one =)
I need to buy all of these soon.
Awesome info!! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for another awesome how to vid and i hope u make more video like this to help us car audio guys step our game up. 😎👍👍
your tools is so good thenx mark
Thank you so much for this Mark!!!
Thank you my man! What do you think of the simple table set up?
I think it's awesome! I pretty much mentally crossed off the possibility of ever doing router table work because of their cost, but $250?? SOLD! Plus, porter cable makes awesome products so it's really a win-win.
Great advice thanks
keep the videos coming zukerberg.. we loves u
I have a Skil brand router. it came with a fixed and plunge base. It gets the job done but it has a few flaws. it is nearly impossible to adjust when it is upside down in a router table. I mostly keep it attached to its plunge base and mounted in my Jasper Circle jig. I definitely would have been better off with a better router.
So it works like a governor throttling as load changes! Except in electrical. Cool I have a old craftsman.
Great video mark....
You are the man!!
Great video like always Mark! Just wondering if you were to suggest some basic router bits from mobile solutions, which one would you recommend?
Excellent Vid. Now on to make a dust collector
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Very helpful video☺
Hello,
I was wondering if you can make a youtube video tutorial on the different types of wood found at Home Depot for Car Audio box builders. I know a lot like to use "Birch and MDF" but there are so many different sizes and types of wood at Home Depot and confuses me. I'm a total newb when it comes to wood and cutting it. My Electrical side of Car Audio is all I know. I was thinking about slapping a piece of wood onto my door so I can screw down one of my eBay speaker pods.
I need one if these
Cool review! 💥💥💥
definitely going to get one of these soon! i had a ryobi router and table and i hated it, returned it the next day after i was done using it lol.
You will be blown away by this router.
great! I just bought a Bosch. lol
What speed do you set your router to when using your 1/4” flush trim bit
Nice tool review
Great Video. great Advice
Thanks! I wish someone would have told me about this years ago!
As someone who almost bit on a cheapo router this weekend I'm glad I didn't. I'd be on my way back to the store to return it now.
A common saying for anything tool realted is "Buy cheap, buy twice" because you always end up going back and replacing the cheap tool...
looks awesome! too bad they don't sell it anymore. . need an update video!
Can you do the same thing with a craftsman plunge router?
excelente
pena q aqui no Brasil seja tão difícil encontrar tão ferramental
Man i bought a cheap router today lol my mom always tells me u can’t just start at the best all the time just use one that will get you by. But the one that got me by didn’t work at all so 😂 i just need to get the bosch
Does the router have overheating issues having the dust collection container sealed underneath the router table like that? I see in other videos people have a clamped on fence behind the router and have it vacuum from behind
I know what my next toy purchase is going to be. I've been wanting a router table for a while, but I guess I'm selling my Ryobi RE180 and buying this!
On a side note...I do paint and body and I use a lot of electric tools. (Most guys use compressor tools.) I have been using the Porter Cable 6 in sander/polisher as a sander for probably 15, 16 years, maybe more...and I do a LOT of sanding with it. I had to replace one because it got run over, another one I can't remember why, actually, I think it's only been 2! The last one I was sanding the _____ out of something, and it literally sheered off from the orbit part where it connects to the motor.
On a second side note...I work once in a while with people I know in my business, I take really good care of my tools, and I have reason to believe since he has the same sander as me, that we mixed them up and I got his...still it lasted years after that.
Here's the short version...that Porter Cable for the money is AWESOME!
wish i would have seen this when i was googling for a month about the cheapest router with above-table adjustment. lol.. i think i may have to replace that harbor freight one that i just put in my table :/
Just curious as I don't see the option on your website. Could you (and how much would it cost) design me a blueprint for a 6th order bandpass box for 1 15" CT Sounds Meso?
What kind of bit is hood for cutting circles with the router?
Did you build your router cabinet and why did you install three routers>
Please help
wath is the using route bits .odel
It's a shame porter cable got bought out, and then eliminated. Their routers were the best in my experience. Now all we have to choose from are mostly throw aways, with electronics that are prone to break.
I noticed the router kit is no longer available via link, what do you recommend as an alternative?
Love this video! The only issue I’m having is this router is unavailable now. Can you please recommend another one that is equivalent to the porter cable? Thank you so much for your time!
I have same question, 890 no longer available
Ha. "Take the plunge." 👍
Triton routers have a feature like this built in, but they probably do cost a little more than the Porter Cable.
I wanted to make my own box for 2 rockford fosgate p3 12s but I don't know how to "tune" my boxes port frequently if anyone could tell me how that would be much appreciated
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use WinISD Pro Alpha
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How easy is it to create good looking parts without a table? I already have a router and some basic bits don't can't justify buying a table.
What other router do you recommend since this 1 isn't available any more?
I have a serious question for you/other commenters, i ordered a sundown 15" 750w rms sub for $278. I just realized that i can get a bass line PSI 15" 750w for $220. Should i return the sundown to get the PSI? Which brand do you prefer? P.S. if i returned what ive already ordered id have to pay return shipping on a 15" sub and a 3.2ft^3 box
I ordered one of these a few months ago with the web site saying there is a back order. Figured I could wait a while. Just got told by the company I ordered it from that it has unfortunately been discontinued. Got any advice for an alternative? I'm considering a Triton but I like the Porter Cable "lock height from above the table" function
Hey Mark, could you someday do a project using Valchromat? It's an engineered wood that's moisture resistant, higher mechanical strength, good for machining in three dimensions, has a greater resistance to bending, easier to finish, and is easier on tools. It also uses a bonding resin instead of formaldehyde based glue or whatever most MDF uses, comes in a variety of colors, and is supposedly superior to MDF, and claimed to be an evolution of MDF.
The 3d machining would be good for internal surfaces, and since it's stronger you might be able to get away with using thinner pieces? I'm also curious to the acoustic properties, since MDF is almost acoustically dead, I wonder if this would have better or worse properties.
For a video idea; Do the same design of box with same sub that's hooked up to the same amp, only variable being the material. It'd be interesting to see the results and see if there's really a difference between Valchromat and MDF, then see if there's really a difference between MDF, plywood, hard/soft woods, drywall (I've heard of someone using a drywall box but not sure if it was legitimate), and other building materials.
Hmm interesting, Ill have to check it out, thanks for the comment.
I found this router at my local pawn shop it seems to be in almost new condition, is this still a good unit to purchase?
Need one of those but not available in UK :(
Im sure someone would ship if you dug around enough.
How does the Bosch 1617EVSPK compare? Am looking to maybe get that one. Thanks!
I'd stick with Porter Cable
@@CarAudioFabrication I ended up going with the one you reccomend!... 895PK. Found a decent deal & it seems like it should be good enough! Also how the base attaches to the perfect circle template & the bottom mount situation. I didnt want to go wrong with that stuff
If I purchase this kit do I still need a jigsaw?
Hello.. I live in Finland and we use here 230v.. can I use that with that voltage or do I need some kind of converter?
Check out the DeWalt DWP 611 it should work for you! They are made by the same people and both are great brands.
Jim Elam can it use like this?
Jani Kumlander actually I take that back that one is two small but both companies make European versions that you should be able to find.
Also in the U.S. we have both 115/120v and 230/240 electrical systems. I'm not sure how your electrical system works but in the U.S. we can hook a 120v line on to a 240 line at the breaker/fuse buy only hooking up to one side. A 240 has 3 wired one neutral and two supplies that are 120v each that combined make 240 volts check with your local electrician this is something you may be able to do!
I think it goes straight with 230v only connects two wires and ground.. not an electrician but have an line at school with some of it
what was your first router? i'm looking to upgrade from a makita trim router
Some cheapo, I can't even remember I think it was around $90. It was on it last leg when I stopped using it. Higher quality tools often mean more longevity, My 890s have been going strong for years!
bad ass buddy
2.25 hp from 15 amp breaker?
Looks pretty close 746 watts/hp * 2.25hp = 1678.5watts/120v puts us at a hair under 14amps. The spec sheet reads 12 amps which is the consistent pull. While 14 amps looks pretty close that's only peak draw and circuit breakers are designed to overload for short periods of time. Theoretically you should be fine but you might trip it every now and then. Definitely would bump to 20 to be safe but this should work.
That router has electronic feedback speed control. Always buy a router with feedback speed control. Porter cable, Hitachi, both excellent choices for routers. SPEND THE MONEY ON A GOOD ROUTER. At least 2 HP. 3 HP even better.
This router in the video is perfect for car audio
@@CarAudioFabrication can't find it ....any updated recommendations?
I am from Romania and it says the shipping is 90 usd is that real? Can u give me another site that sells same product but with a lower shipping cost? Pleasee?
Turns out shipping heavy things across the world costs a bit...
@@CarAudioFabrication =(( im a bit mad because i don't know with what i can start making boxes because im just a 13 year old kid and i want to make some preety cool enclosures and sell them for money and like tat i can buy what i want but just to be on my budget
Tools, as with car audio, you get what you pay for.