Pumpkin Cream Cold Foam | EASY recipe!

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  • @JackysJourney
    @JackysJourney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never had pumpkin anything and I so wanna try!! Looks delish! What do you think would be a good OL substitute for iced Forte?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try two capsules of Freddo Intenso

  • @brazykeezy
    @brazykeezy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    pumpkin cold foam over chai tea is so good !

  • @chelsgray01
    @chelsgray01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I like how simple this recipe is! Most of the recipes I’ve seen have sweetened condensed milk and I wanted to avoid that for the extra sugar. I just need to buy a little hand frother and some pumpkin and I’m going to try this out this weekend!!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww yay I hope you enjoy it!

    • @daphne201239
      @daphne201239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried it today but I had a sugar free pumpkin syrup I added and Mexican vanilla extract to Silk soy milk (I didn't have whipping cream) & it was good!

    • @OnlyHereToSupport
      @OnlyHereToSupport 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same! I’m gonna try this tomorrow, I’m so excited 👏

  • @marlenems1590
    @marlenems1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I made it right when I got home!! It’s yummy!! Only ingredient I needed was pumpkin pure. I like that fact that it’s simple and doesn’t have all that extra sugar. I only had sugar free vanilla syrup but it’s still yummy

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s awesome I’m so glad it worked out for you!

  • @jcollins4388
    @jcollins4388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the fall vibes are immaculate.

  • @LadyDianeH
    @LadyDianeH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have seen alot of reciepes for this and urs looks the easiest thanks again for sharing....

  • @Kay191Kay
    @Kay191Kay ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!

  • @javvycoffee
    @javvycoffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most wonder-fall drink! 😍🧡

  • @mizzmeliinspires
    @mizzmeliinspires 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t have a hand frother so I used my hand mixer and it worked!! I added a little bit of maple syrup on top and it was perfect! Thanks for the recipe!! Tastes so clean and delicious

  • @gracefulglowandco
    @gracefulglowandco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely LOVE you! 🥰 I found Pink House Alchemy because of you today, I just placed an order and I'm so thankful for your code! 🥳 You have no idea how HAPPY I am that their ingredients are some of the cleanest ingredients for coffee syrup! I could cry 😂

  • @sarahruiz1215
    @sarahruiz1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I was craving the pumpkin spice cold foam iced coffee from starbucks but they don't have it out yet and I didn't want to wait.
    I made this with a few tweaks (added stevia to my coffee, and I used half vanilla bean/caramel torani syrup for the foam) delish!!!!
    Saving this recipe for future cravings 😅 Thank you so much!!

  • @biancalaboca7866
    @biancalaboca7866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg thanks for this! You should try the brown sugar Oatmilk shaken espresso at Starbucks with pumpkin cold foam and pumpkin toppings omg sooo good!! Haha!

  • @MarissaQuiroga
    @MarissaQuiroga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay I had no idea the hyper chiller came in that pretty pink tone! Def going to order it if available!!! So cute!!! 🥺🥰

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I love this color it’s brand new so I’m sure you will find it!

  • @Bobbybluebass
    @Bobbybluebass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally got around to trying this recipe and it came out perfect👌

  • @jessicam1692
    @jessicam1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truly a financial life saver! 😂 I think I was heading for debt over Starbucks, NOT NOW! Thanks for sharing!!! LOVE IT 🥰

  • @randr4ever
    @randr4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alex, I finally got around to making this recipe. Oh my goodness its delicious!! Why did i wait so long?! I used Monin Sugar free French Vanilla and it was so good. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kateposega8098
    @kateposega8098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg that looks SO good!!! I'm definitely trying this. The pumpkin cream cold brew from Starbucks is my favorite. Side note, your hair looks really pretty lol

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you and I hope you like it!

  • @Sunflower94H
    @Sunflower94H 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to make this. Ice Forte is really good, I love it.

  • @michelleguitron433
    @michelleguitron433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made it last night and wow loved it thanks for sharing :)

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome glad you enjoyed it!

  • @michellevaldez1395
    @michellevaldez1395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! Can’t wait to try this! Thank you for sharing! 💗

  • @KP-uf2qh
    @KP-uf2qh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay I tried with date syrup.. adds a caramel/warm flavor☺️

  • @itsvalcarolina
    @itsvalcarolina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg I've been seeing this everywhere but yours definitely looks the easiest - can't want to try!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay! Hope you like it

  • @sherrytruitt1028
    @sherrytruitt1028 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Alex🙋‍♀️ Tried this cold coffee recipe. Very good. Didn't put the same amount of vanilla. Probability didn't put a TBS. It was very good.

  • @sylwiap6314
    @sylwiap6314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s delicious! I love it! Thank you!!!😋

  • @matthewhuber8697
    @matthewhuber8697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this vid!! Thank you sm

  • @bethzaidavasquez6794
    @bethzaidavasquez6794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched your video and then made the coffee drink. It is phenomenal 👏 🙌 😍. Even better than other coffee shops.

  • @Trinamack7
    @Trinamack7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your reaction always make me want to try the different pods/recipes. 😂. Also your version looks much simpler than others. Definitely gonna try. Thanks a bunch! 😊😊😊

  • @charlette4419
    @charlette4419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much girly !!!

  • @daphne201239
    @daphne201239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about I just come over? Haha.
    New SUB here.
    Your kitchen is so pretty!
    I like your recipe, I bet it tastes much better and I doubt they use real pumpkin.

  • @sofiaskitchen2878
    @sofiaskitchen2878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love it!

  • @shirleychamps8416
    @shirleychamps8416 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG! I just tried it!! Sooooo good!!! Thank you so much!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yay glad you liked it!

  • @MariaGonzalez-ym1mb
    @MariaGonzalez-ym1mb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Was waiting on this one

  • @GloriaPiz
    @GloriaPiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks super simple and delicious, gonna give it a try for sure! 🥰

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know what you think!

  • @vickymc3855
    @vickymc3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are my coffee spirit sister! Boy I wish we were friends/neighbors! We would be drinking coffee like crazy!

  • @dianeguy4308
    @dianeguy4308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks so good! Trying it today!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay hope you like!

    • @dianeguy4308
      @dianeguy4308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t have regular whipping cream. Do you think the Chobani vanilla creamer would work?

  • @bubblydiana5279
    @bubblydiana5279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks absolutely delicious 🙂

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Diana 🥰

  • @annaa.5863
    @annaa.5863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You Alex! Definitely trying this 😋

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome hope you like it!

  • @kirstenfanzega8147
    @kirstenfanzega8147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Girl you know I have been waiting for this one!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay! Hope you like it!

  • @cathyseiple6517
    @cathyseiple6517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait to try this 🎃

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay hope you like it!

  • @00zianny00
    @00zianny00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay thank you for this! Trying it this weekend 🥰

  • @christined2634
    @christined2634 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooooo good…had one the last two days!😋
    Thanks Alex

  • @lisaXlunatic91
    @lisaXlunatic91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay you got the pink one! 😍 Thanks for sharing this recipe. I love the pumpkin cold foam.

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love it pink! Hope you enjoy the recipe!

    • @christined2634
      @christined2634 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed Alex had a different hyperchiller….I was sure hers used to be black

  • @dianamedina9290
    @dianamedina9290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think it would be ok to make the cream in bulk to store in fridge for the week?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes of course! It might just need to be whipped before pouring but I think you can

  • @sharongreen9703
    @sharongreen9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mmmm delicious. What else could use in place of Ice Forte for Verturo

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Odacio! Or if you want latte then double espresso Chiaro

    • @sharongreen9703
      @sharongreen9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica thanks Alex

  • @jent8426
    @jent8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m excited to try it! I have an open can I if pumpkin, but I’ve already had 2 coffees today. Maybe tomorrow. 🤞🏻

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you like!

    • @jent8426
      @jent8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica I was able to try it today! Delicious 😋 I added a little bit of sweetener to my coffee, but I do that with the Starbucks drink as well. It’s a great copy cat!

  • @Nancyvlogs33
    @Nancyvlogs33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks delicious 😋

  • @jonanncromyak4621
    @jonanncromyak4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you share the link for the hyper chiller please?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did in the description box ☺️

  • @Vanessa1723
    @Vanessa1723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg! I have been waiting for THIS video 👏🏼🙌🏼

  • @haleypeacock4013
    @haleypeacock4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get the syrup containers?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have them linked to my Amazon storefront under coffee stuff along with the pour spouts and covers I use as well

  • @princesstiaraable
    @princesstiaraable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you could only have one machine, would u choose the vertuoplus or the creatista plus?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vertuo plus 🥰 it does it all

  • @ernemtz9064
    @ernemtz9064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup that foam mustache is everything

  • @Jessica.xo1
    @Jessica.xo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a good substitute for cold brew like the one at Starbucks or how to make it?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a cold brew how to video in one of my earliest coffee videos

  • @shellylawson4407
    @shellylawson4407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos!! Can you share where you got your sweatshirt? So cute!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From @yescoffeenodecaf on insta but this one is limited edition, she has other colors

    • @shellylawson4407
      @shellylawson4407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica thanks so much!

  • @katelandking9805
    @katelandking9805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to live lattes and pumpkin spice and always will but there’s something about cold foam and cold brew I love better idk what it is!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Instant sugar gratification since the cream is up top 🤤

  • @lynnmarie3035
    @lynnmarie3035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought 7 items from your Amazon store list! I hope you get some kind of credit for that!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get a small kick back that’s awesome I truly appreciate it 🥰

  • @deliademaida8430
    @deliademaida8430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks so good!! Where do they sell pumpkin pie spice ?

    • @jacky195
      @jacky195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any grocery store ! :) in the spices aisle even target and Walmart should have some

  • @Jessica.xo1
    @Jessica.xo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried it today, super good!
    But I was wondering What can I use instead of heavy whipping cream?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Silk has a vegan alternative but the ingredients seemed trash 😣

  • @angeliquerosas9459
    @angeliquerosas9459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never froth it the right amount and i have the same frother

  • @Yvonne-ni5dj
    @Yvonne-ni5dj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you substitute the pumpkin purée with the pumpkin sauce from torani? 🤔

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah you can it just might be a different consistency but go for it!

  • @mixingwithmandy9414
    @mixingwithmandy9414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I use the original capsule do I just use one capsule and brew a lungo ? Or do I do two espresso shots with two pods.
    Also maybe you can help
    Me with the other originals if I would normally order out a double shot does that mean when using my Nespresso I need to use two capsules and poor two espresso for one drink 🙏

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! I would use two espresso shots instead of brewing the lungo. I almost always brew two capsules for alll my original drinks unless I do a lungo but it’s almost always two espresso capsules

    • @mixingwithmandy9414
      @mixingwithmandy9414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica thank you I have HD my Nespresso for four years and can never make a good coffee. always to week so will try some of your recipes with two espresso original shots when ever you using virtual ❤️

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow! Yeah I think two shots should do the trick!

  • @kikijean
    @kikijean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never seen anything but black for the hyperchiller!!!! I'm so jealous! Now they have all kinds of fun colors! Dang it. Not worth it to spend just just a color change, but so bummed. Lol

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they have black, pink, mint, and blue!

    • @kikijean
      @kikijean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica the pink and mint are so cute! But more expensive too. 🙄 Dang them for taking advantage of our weakness for cute things! Lol love your videos and recipes!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s so unfair isn’t it 😑

  • @thereserivera7691
    @thereserivera7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No coffee for me -- would this be good with chai?-- this pumpkin foam recipe looks super yummy😋

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I’m sure it would be great I’ve seen it been done

  • @ukii
    @ukii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Good & Gather pumpkin puree, is that the canned pumpkin? Just wanna make sure I buy the correct product. 🙂

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah! That’s the one

  • @rebeccalarocque6928
    @rebeccalarocque6928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which other capsule you recommand ? Since the iced capsule aren't available :)

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What? I just checked and they are Ava maybe only in US? I would use Odacio as second option 😋

    • @rebeccalarocque6928
      @rebeccalarocque6928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica Thanks ! Here in Canada they've been out of stock for a few weeks now 😅

  • @layaly8195
    @layaly8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's ice forte dupe in the OL plz

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try two capsules of Fredo Intenso! 🤗

    • @layaly8195
      @layaly8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot ♥️ love ur recipes

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and You’re welcome!

  • @mnik6189
    @mnik6189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you had any issues with the hyper chiller? I really want to get one but some of the reviews are making me hesitant. (cracking, leaking..)

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No issues yet, I have two of them

    • @michelleortiz5784
      @michelleortiz5784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It didn’t work for me and I followed the exact instructions instead of my coffee getting cold my hyper chiller got hot smh save ur money ! and yes my hyper chiller was taken directly out of the freezer when I used it and yes it was in there for over 24 hours

  • @rayzee0285
    @rayzee0285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many calories is the pumpkin cold foam?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would have to add them yourself depending on the ingredients you use, each brand is different and I don’t remember anymore from what I used and quite frankly I don’t count calories 😬

  • @syl1382
    @syl1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang that looks good! I don’t have any of that stuff except a frother and pumpkin purée 😂
    Can you make a dupe for the Starbucks brown sugar oat milk shaken espresso?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look through my channel I made that video already 🤗

    • @syl1382
      @syl1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica awesome! Thank you!

  • @ray-v9204
    @ray-v9204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    some one help me I tried this recipe and it won't foam up for me what am I doing wrong.

  • @bee42Sad
    @bee42Sad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this something that needs to be done every time or can you make a batch and put it in the fridge?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can make a batch but it might need some re-frothing before pouring

  • @lynnmarie3035
    @lynnmarie3035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where in Target do I find Pumpkin Purée please?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In their name section is where I found it in a can by Good and Gather Brand

    • @lynnmarie3035
      @lynnmarie3035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My target did not have it but my local grocery store had organic pumpkin purée so I bought that one!

  • @hotfordmomma
    @hotfordmomma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Possible so indulgent gal. Can't wait to try it. 🤤 Do you think the original pod would work as well? If so would you suggest 2 pods? That looked like a lot of coffee.

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you can use two capsules! Freddo intenso would be the similar capsule

  • @SM-zj2ps
    @SM-zj2ps 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you do with the leftover puree, or do you just make this everyday?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put it fridge and use as I need it, my husband also asks for this drink in the morning for work

  • @maggieanaya4985
    @maggieanaya4985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, you always have me placing orders on Nespresso for new pods. I’m trying this one, but where can I get? Pumpkin pie purée ?

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Target! It’s in a can in the bake section

  • @bee42Sad
    @bee42Sad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay! It doesn’t have the pumpkin syrup which I can’t find in Canada (and Amazon’s is so expensive)

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay hope you like it

    • @wubsthecat
      @wubsthecat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got Monin's pumpkin spice syrup from buycoffeecanada recently and it's really good! You can go check it out!

    • @bee42Sad
      @bee42Sad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wubsthecat I will. I'm hesitant to buy from random websites!

    • @sharongreen9703
      @sharongreen9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bee42Sad I live in Canada and get from bycoffee Canada. Prices are good.

  • @sabi6967
    @sabi6967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I don’t like the coffee taste I shouldn’t make this right? 😅
    I always drink a latte so I don’t have the coffee taste 😂

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would stick to a latte with this cold foam on top

    • @sabi6967
      @sabi6967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica OMG YES!!! 🙏🏻

    • @sabi6967
      @sabi6967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Alexmojica i made my PSL today with the cold foam and I’m not gonna lie.. it was THE BEST thing I ever tasted. I made it with light whipping cream & light vanilla Sirup. Worked perfectly 🤝🏻

  • @antoniazena3801
    @antoniazena3801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Instead of using heavy whipping cream, could you use oatmilk or almond milk just to make it a little healthier? Let me know!!

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No harm in trying I haven’t tried that myself but I’m sure it would work

  • @Its.savedie
    @Its.savedie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My frother i found it ln Shein for 4 dollars.

  • @evannasong8356
    @evannasong8356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:00

  • @kays2435
    @kays2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is mine so watery :(

  • @alliefogarty8790
    @alliefogarty8790 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine was bitter af when I made mine like this 😢

  • @Dhakaiyacook
    @Dhakaiyacook 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    look yummy 😋❤
    🙋 Inviting in my kitchen 💛

  • @Clauds71
    @Clauds71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤍

  • @angeliquerosas9459
    @angeliquerosas9459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think i can use vanilla extract 😂😂😂

    • @_Alexmojica
      @_Alexmojica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone else mentioned they did and it wasn’t good