2022 Toyota Tundra Hybrid vs Turbo MPG Challenge - Is the Hybrid Really Worth It?
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- We try and get the best possible mileage from the Toyota Tundra Hybrid on an identical route that we used to test the twin-turbo V6 Tundra, to see exactly how the fuel economy compares between the two. The results could surprise you...
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the hybrid for power is such bullshit. nobody wants that except in sports cars. we want hybrid for fuel economy when not towing.
Mike Spears said they tried to copy a diesel's power output with the Hybrid because when they were developing the 3rd Gen the question was asked can we get a Diesel motor in the 2022. Cooperate said no
@@PHILLIPS8822 hey Yota Corporate I'd like a diesel taco or tund please
The hybrid was made to produce more power not be no more efficient, it gives a boost without a big hit to exononmy. Maybe they’ll make a decent truck that gets 28 mpg one day.
They need to develop aluminum technology like Ford had first, the F150 is one thousand pounds lighter
@@mkyhou1160 Body shops cannot work with aluminum.
@@dundeeecroc it hasn’t been an issue - actually cheaper to repair. Easier to mold aluminum than steel,
@@mkyhou1160 how’ does the aluminum work out for safety?
@@kaweka260 it’s stronger than steel - F150s do well in safety tests.
And you are still the best presenter on the web,, Period!!
Does 1MPG gain enough to cover the extra price on the Hybrid?
It's been stated by Chief engineer Mike Sweers that existence of the hybrid option was purely for HP and Torque gains and that they reversed their philosophy on hybrids which was to prioritize MPG's over performance.
DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! What’s put me off replacing my 25-year-old pickup is a desire for better MPG (24 mpg). Why would I spend for this tech if it doesn’t make the vehicle more effective for daily driving.
DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! What’s put me off replacing my 25-year-old pickup is a desire for better MPG (24 mpg). Why would I spend for this tech if it doesn’t make the vehicle more effective for daily driving.
Sweers should have been shit canned over this pile of junk truck.
Just like the landcruiser it just sat there in thed dealership. Sure the engine and transmission was guaranteed 1 million miles but the price was way too much. Similar to the new hybrid SUV the cost is way too out of reach. Lower the price.
What i would like to see is not a top power/torque spec hybrid truck. Take something like either 2.7 from ford or GM which are already very potent engines and pair it to a hybrid for fuel economy and you’d still have something like 350hp and 480lbft.
That is exactly what all these manufacturers should be making. A truck that will get 26-28 MPG while being able to tow 7-8000 lbs is just what a lot of us are looking for. Not the most powerful truck with a hybrid motor grafted on or a hybrid solely designed for maximum fuel economy with no towing capability. Middle ground, people! That is what we all need.
@@TheBarbellBandit lol wrong bud. You don’t have to like it, but facts are facts. The 2.7 has 100hp more and over 100lbft at lower and flatter RPM which is exactly what you want when towing. It’s going to be WAY faster and tow stronger. That era of Ford V8 you have too was a dog shit
The problem is, people think they need 1,000HP in their commuter cars, when in reality they only need 50HP.
@@TheBarbellBandit That's not how the 10 spd operates and the 10spd has a more aggressive first and second gear than your old 4spd first gear, and then more agressive 3-4-5 than the second gear in the 4 speed. And so on and so on. I'd wager you actually haven't driven the 2.7 ecoboost. I'm not even a huge fan of it, but talking out your ass is still talking out your ass.
The Triton V8s ate spark plugs and were a bitch to change. It's really the era where GM's small block pulled ahead in the truck segment.
Hopefully they do just that with the Lexus GX/4Runner and Tacoma
If you happen to find yourself with another Powerboost F150, I’d love to see the same route done in that to compare, considering they both have similar torque, power, and similar sized batteries - yet ford claims 24 mpg combined. Why didn’t Toyota benchmark that?
Yes that would be interesting. That being said I only 21 Powerboost, I can easily get 26 in the city and on occasion have gotten 29, just depends on what type of highway you're running on but that's very easy to get, it's also finicky in the wind, but it's pretty big and heavy so it's to be understandable, but it has tons of power. To be able to run my RV for a week off the back of my truck, and turn around and weld a repair out in the field is very awesome.
@@MrFordguy73I put 1500 miles on a 22 Powerboost, mixed hwy, backroad and city miles. Drove it normally no babying, got 24mpg. Did the same with the Tundra capstone and got 18. The Ford had way better power feel across the whole rpm range. I think Toyota is holding the truck back somehow. These two are nearly idenical, same displacement, similar weight, same fuel injection type, same hybrid setup. Something is off on the tundra.
Just another reminder to the viewers, the Tundra is NOT, i repeat, NOT made to have better fuel economy, the motor is there to give it an extra umph of power (you know, to do truck stuff), to the exact same engine. Vast majority of better fuel economy hybrids have downsized engines or detuned, that is the biggest factor, not so much the electricity part of it. That being said, the more often the engine shuts off, and the more the motor regenerates, it's gonna be better, but that's just a bonus, not directly intended in this Tundra.
Except for its much slower than Fords Power boost and even GMs 6.2.
Combined power numbers on hybrids are a bit of a shell game. The electric motor isn't giving you a boost at wide open throttle. It will give you a boost from a stop and slow speeds. Throw any of these hybrids on a dyno, they won't put more power to the ground than the Gas version.
@@terrencejones9817 we already watched TFL drag race the TRD Pro against the GM 6.2 and the 3.0 and both were way slower than the Tundra. Ford's powerboost was the hot rod.
@@CACressida TFL is a mile above sea level. Check out Car and Drivers #s power boost and GM are tied.
@@terrencejones9817 yay congrats, you understand how hybrids should work in a truck, and yes, that's the intent. Except nobody cares about speed, or at least shouldn't, in a truck when it's already more than fast enough.
@@gwot in your post you mentioned that the Tundra Hybrid is about power not fuel economy. As I pointed out, it's not faster than the competition, it doesn't tow more, and it doesn't get as good as fuel economy.
So explain to me why anyone would buy this truck? It's reliability hasn't been proven yet, and it doesn't beat the competition at anything.
only getting 13.9mpg on my hybrid. I have 35's on it but seems super low.
Nice fail
That's 100% you driving poorly.
@@Dethred1 And the 35" tires.
That's worse fuel economy than my 2008 Tundra with the 5.7L V8 got in town...but I didn't have ridiculously oversize tires on it either....just a plain work truck double cab 4x4.
@@julioviloria3289 With 35" tires it don't matter how you drive a full size truck, they get crappy fuel economy...especially when you have a too small engine with turbos trying to do the work of a V8.
If I drive my 20 Tundra real frugal like, i have seen 11.4 litres per 100 k....so when you consider this new Tundra is 30 K more than my 2020...I will keep my V8. It isn't terrible on fuel.
My old high mileage 2012 5.3 6spd Silverado cruising 100km like Stephen did can easily get under 10L. But then again this Tundy has 100hp more and a whopping 250lbft. So it is still impressive of this new tundra given what’s on tap.
60hp and 185lbft over yours, and that hammer of torque comes in at a much lower rpm.
It’s like the guys with a mid 90s truck that say they can get similar MPG. Well half ton trucks are twice the size and twice the power now lol
@@C_H_U_ I drive to work 22 kms and 1/3 is city. I still get 13.4 litres per 100 km at 90 kph. If you see 5 to 6 litres per 100...your vehicle is very very efficient.
I have average 16mpg per 30k i have 2021 tundra sr5 tss
My 08 sequoia RWD 5.7 gets 12-14 city and 16-18 mpg hwy at roughly 75mph
Driving my 2022 Tundra just regularly on the main land I was seeing about 9.5L/100km (24.7MPG for us americans). If I drive it frugally I get about 8.8L/100km. For you to be getting 11.4L/100km in the 5.7L is pretty good. How much did you pay for the 2020 and was it new or used?
Would also like to see an around town video of fuel economy please.
Hybrids are great if you want to have climate control sitting still. #vanlife.
The 2 click method is flawed, way too many variables.
I think the 22 inch wheels also may have reduced the overall fuel economy a bit on the specific trim of the Tundra
Wheels and probably a little more weight because its a Capstone compared to a TRD Sport.
I’m happy with 17”or 18” 20” I would hate to see the pricing of 22” tires just dumb
@@TheSlugger76 I hate the price of my 20" wheels. I can't imagine 22"s
Yeah but they look so good in the gym parking lot…
Larger wheels and tires will always reduce fuel economy, they're larger, heavier, and typically wider as well...so you have the weight, and size to try and turn...with a smaller engine to boot, gives terrible results.
Toyota should of just kept the 5.7 v8 and made it hybrid.
Or at least kept the 5.7L V8 and offered a hybrid rather than doing away with a reliable power train.
The most important part of the hybrid Tundra is not fuel efficiency, but the development of the hybrid system. New technology always has a few bugs to work out of the system. However, in a few years, this hybrid system will improve and become more efficient more powerful and more reliable for off road use. I think this hybrid system is very elegant because it mounts between the engine and transmission. This technology has the potential to convert any vehicle to a hybrid by mounting this system between the engine and transmission. When Top Gear reviewed the McLaren P1, they said that the electric motor filled in the gaps in power from the gas engine.
Right now I am driving a 2021 1/2 ton 4x4 Silverado with the 2.7L turbo in it. I am really surprised with it's power towing and the empty MPG. I easily get 24 up to 32 depending on speed and terrain.
Like the Tundra I believe GM needs to add on an inline Hybrid motor power train.
This is the better move than BEV trucks for people who actually use trucks as Intended to haul and tow any distance out of town.
I have been considering the Toyota but I am finding out that service and repair on them is going to be very expensive. They are going to need to lift the cab off just to change a turbo.
We all know that turbo replacement is expensive anyway even without lifting the cab.
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Thank you. Can someone please test the SR with lower output for pulling power and MPG?
TFL has a limited that they have been testing. And that has the same engine as the SR
@@sexyfishyphish i wish it was but the sr has less torque and horsepower actually. Please research
@@nickanderson5825 oh yeah I forgot that it is detuned. If you don't mind me asking, why not just go for the sr5 over the sr?
Stephen, As you clearly demonstrated, they tuned this Hybrid drivetrain for maximum power. There is nothing stopping them from tuning another drivetrain for efficiency.
As others have posted, I have a 2020 v8 which can get 11-12L/100km at 80 to 90 km/h. At 120km/h that goes to something like 23L/100km. But I paid $50k for my truck and only put 4000km a year on it. No way the current hybrid makes sense. I'll wait for the tundra prime with full PHEV, before I trade in my v8
@@michaelweatherby8648 I also have fingers crossed that we'll see some plug-in hybrid pickups soon. Hybrid pickups would work better for my pickup needs than place ICE or full BEV. And a plug-in hybrid would make that even better. Drive 20 - 40 miles on all electric every day by plugging in every night (depending on the battery size the manufacturer chooses) and run sections of forest service roads with no engine running, but still be able to hop in and drive across the country or tow in rural areas or the mountains by filling up at a gas station.
Fords powerboost destroys this truck in a drag race and gets better gas mileage tundra is junk
Thing is riddled with issues all these car companies struggling with new government emissions trying to make their vehicle as efficient as possible the end of the day it's only hurting us the customer
My friend is averaging 15 mpg. I don’t know 🤷♀️ f it’s a hybrid but a 1783 model. He says it’s awesome mpg for him
Pointless hybrid system. As an added bonus you also get battery, electronics and motor moneypit as it ages. Designed in the USA.
In my 22 Tundra Limited non hybrid I am lucky if I get 14L/100km in eco mode. Do they get better after break in??
nope... be ready to replace the engine.
I have a 2011 tundra with the 5.7 V8 what I would give to get anything close to 20 mpgs. To be fair my mpg avg is better than for my truck I dance around 13 to 13.5 mpg which is unheard of to some tundra owners 😅
2017 f150 5.0... 17-21 mpg depending on if towing, highway, etc. That's figured out via the pump btw... 👍🏽
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Ford did some magic with that set up, had a rental and did mostly freeway driving, but drove it kinda fast around town and got 21mpg average, if it wasn't for the super soft, disconnected ride and the cylinder knocking I'd be all about it.
@@ultraneight hey ultra. I hear you about the knocking issue bro. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones with that. So far so good... about 65k on her. That 5.0 is sweet!
But yeah... I get better mileage than a friend of mine gets with his old Subaru Outback haha.
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14-17mpg city, 18-22mpg highway with my 08 5.7L V 4x4 DC Tundra....but I don't put the garbage ethanol low octane gas in it either...the only non-ethanol in my area is premium, you get the right fuel for max power, and you also get non-ethanol fuel....the problem is once you switch to the cheap garbage fuel, you'll never get your fuel economy back as I found out later on with my Tundra...after I made the mistake of filling up with ethanol fuel a few times, my fuel economy went to crap, and even after switching back to non-ethanol fuel, the fuel economy never returned....the damage from the ethanol was already done within a few tanks of fuel.
I sold my 08 Tundra a few years ago with 104k on it....for $18k...bought it new in Jan 08 for $32k...nope they don't hold their value any better than any other brand out there it seemed at the time...but now with Toyota jumping on the undersized engine with a turbo bandwagon the used prices on 2021 and older Tundras have gone way up.
$75,000! ouch! I bought the last 2021 Tundra sr5 double cab (old V-8 motor) Dec,29,2020 at Middletown Toyota in Connecticut USA. glad I did, I love it. I get 16-19mpg highway, 10.9 towing my 14'x7'x6'h enclosed carmate cargo trailer. I bought it for $39,000!
I'm 15 months out on a wait-list for a TRD Pro Tundra. Can't wait.
So is it better to spend $90,000 on a fuel sipper or spend maybe $50,000 on a big V8? Depending how much you drive it might be more cost effective to just pay for the higher fuel consumption. Not to mention less complexity without the hybrid system.
Higher fuel consumption but less power and torque with the V8, seems no matter how you look at it its better option to go with the Tundra Hybrid. Granted I would not shell out the money for this trim, then again it's not too much more than the TRD Pro that I am getting so maybe it isn't that crazy.
BEST of the BEST way to save fuel... Stay Home and don't drive!! Lol But, seriously, drive less. When you have to drive... go slower by reducing your speeds. Where I am from, it is so obvious that people do NOT care about fuel prices. Reason?? Well, they are still driving like maniacs'.
Man that Capstone in Super Sonic red is beautiful
Can you do a comparison between Capstone and f150 Powerboost Platinum.
Just picked up a 2022 (I'm froogle) and the gauge says I'm getting 13 mpg. I about had a heart attack. Clearly it's off but by how bad? Finding out this week
Love your channel! Have you done an I-force vs I-force max towing comparison? Interested to see if the max is really worth it in a real world comparison.
This should be considered a Mild-Hybrid not a full hybrid system. The here thing is proportions. This is a Ginormous truck with a system kind of inherited from a normal hybrid. This is to give more power at the more or less the same power consumption. This is NOT the standard Fuel Economy Hybrid systems from toyota
Really was hoping for 24mpg or better based on how amazing Toyota's midsized hybrids are.
What does this truck excel at?
For now I'd rather buy a Ram for comfort, a F-150 for power and towing, or an older Tundra for reliability.
You should check the F-150 for power and towing. Last time I did I looked at the Ford hybrid Lariat. Tundra had more hp, torque, and towing. Also better than the Ram in the same class.
@@JIPlatium the F150 and Tundra are so close on paper that I’m sure they are damn near identical in capability.
Big 3 is junk
It did reach that, he shows an average of 25 mpg at 7:5 in the video. Plus the nearly 600 lbs/torque is nothing to scoff at.
@@crowntug I don't doubt you found that. I still found the same numbers I spoke about. which leads me to concluded we are not talking apples to apples. Matt S, pleasure chatting with you, wish you well.
You drove at 80km/h at 100-110 km/h you would get 11.4-12.2L
Congratulations on 100K subs
Cant believe the prices of gas in Canada. We have it easy in US even with what we think is expensive. I took a Trip from NJ to Nova Scotia with my 17 5.7 and averaged 17 mpg. I wasn't towing.
I live in Nova Scotia.....can you imagine if you were towing? We have some good grades here....
Yep, up and down hills will do that LOL. 17mpg isn't too bad really for a full size truck built to do truck stuff.
I own a Tundra 19’…. That new truck is ugly as sin and would rather buy a dodge…. Overpriced BIGTIME!
For Toyota to do so poorly making this tundra hybrid is pretty shocking to me.
They have over two decades of experience making hybrids across nearly all of their cars and now SUVs.
Yet they somehow forgot how to do that with this truck.
The pricing on this and what you get is frankly pathetic for Toyota.
Do you have one?
I can get this kind of mpg on my conventional non-hybrid V6 RAM with a bit of effort. But I think where hybrid really shines is at hypermiling techniques like pulse and glide. Where I'd really struggle to hit anything over 28mpg on a conventional V6 RAM, hybrid tundra owner could quite easily hit 30-35mpg if they really try.
It won't help you on the highway, but if you know hypermiling techniques, you will gain massively off the highway.
Just like regular people driving rav4 hybrid getting 30-40 mpg, or prius 40-50mpg while hypermilers getting ~50-60mpg on rav4 hybrid (off the highway) and 70-80 on prius. And it's not really slower, it's just a lot bigger following distance, so that you rarely have to touch brakes (biggest mpg killer). It does require some getting use to, as it's much more challenging, but when it comes to speed you basically want to always run at ~40-50 mph for maximum fuel efficiency which isn't all that slow.
And when you accelerate, you must ensure your engine running at the optimal RPM for fuel economy which is somewhere between 1.6k and 2k RPM usually. Run it higher than 2k = lose mpg, run it lower than 1.6k during "pulse" - also lose mpg. For Toyota hybrids it's upper end of "eco" zone.
For optimal results your driving should only consist of two "modes" = "Pulse" and "Glide". Pulse always between 1.6k and 2k RPM and Glide always with the engine off. Rince repeat.
A Hybrid with poor fuel mileage is a bad Hybrid. Hey Toyota: When you get that fixed, give me a call.
Toyota needs to fix the mechanical issues first. Appearently the infotainment is garbage as well.
Stay away from any hybrid vehicle. go with Powerstroke Diesel and or D4D by Toyota.
Toyota trucks should have catalytic converter shield already equip. Toyota catalytic converters are getting steal like hot cakes.
I been waiting on this test for awhile. This will help me decide between the hydrid and TRD sport.
How do u get 3mpg better than it is rated for? 🤔
Either this is bs or you should be driving for Toyota government fuel economy testing
Have you done the same loop in the F-150 with PowerBoost hybrid?
I’m almost certain they have
James, not the same loop - its to come.
One thing I didn't hear you mention was your speed. Your fuel economy was good because of the B roads you. were driving. In Ontario Canada that is up to 80kph. So maybe you were doing 88kph max. This the US magic 55mph. Cars get great milage at this speed. Problem is, when you get out on the highway you're not going this slow. Even just upping your speed to 100kph , your milage will drop.
You're right. Check out the fuel results video we did after our Tundra to the Arctic trip - we talk about speed and what that does to the consumption.
With that battery not being very big is there a possibility of NOT having all that power if the pack isn't fully charged. Maybe say after a bunch of 0-60 runs? I'd like to see if that test
you hit it exactly. Ford powerboost is just an ecoboost when battery is low. But those numbers are not talked about when reviewed.
The new Tundra continues to be a big disappointment, seems like Toyota cut a lot of corners with this new truck.
the toyota hybrid battery warranty is terrible, buyer beware..got rid of my Prius with 99k on the odo and the batteries were failing, and toyota said to bad not failing bad enough..so I traded it in under warranty as i didnt want to spend thousands on batteries down the road soon...ill wait for the solid state batteries down the road and ive had toyota Lithium and Nimh batteries in cars..these guys didnt state that at all and both degrade over time..
GAS MPG SUCKS FOR THIS TRUCK I HAVE THE V6 TURBO 13.2 MPG CITY ITS A BIG LIE FROM TOYOTA
My Ram 2500/6.4 got 18 mpg hauling my 700 lb ATV. Highway driving doing 68 MPH over150 mile trip. Lower rear end gear 3.72 and 20 inch tires.
I'd rather have the slightly lower fuel economy, and have an engine that'll still be going in 15-20 years...today's mini-engine trucks are not gonna last long when used as a truck...
84k for a truck is (plus tax ) insane! In a few years folks may need a second mortgage to buy one !
Yet people keep flocking to dealers to order/buy them.
They need to bring the V8 back
So definitely not worth the premium over a used V8 Tundra.
Your fueling method is wrong…. Don’t do that.
Great to see “GPH” gallons per hour when idling engine all night 🎉
I drive a 2003 tundra and get 16l/100 km and 19l/100 km in the winter due to being in 4x4 and letting my truck warm up a lot more often
Sounds pretty typical. My 08 Tundra would get that too in the winter when in 4WD and below zero temps...I don't have a garage, my truck sat outside 24/7/365....you don't just jump in and drive away, you have to let them warm up, and you have to let it do so long enough so you can actually scrape the ice off the windows and oftentimes you had to do so inside and outside the windshield LOL.
I wonder why no manufacturer pairs a diesel with a hybrid?
They will never do so because the fuel economy would be insanely good...think 40-50mpg...in a pickup...that would kill all their Prius sales in an instant, and you'd actually have a truck capable of doing truck stuff even being a hybrid.
Decent number for sure here. Now if only the whole truck wasn't 80 to 90k for a hybrid I could justify the 1 liter per 100 km improvement.
U can get a limited hybrid for 60k
@@hexicalcat4937 66390 in Canada. Plus 15 percent tax, plus delivery, plus dealer fee. Plus interest ,plus, plus. Truck King is a Canadian Channel before you tell me about US prices.
Mike, I don't know which model hybrid tundra you priced , but a Limited Crew max Hybrid is $66k Canadian.
EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bought F150 powerboost not for mpg but for performance. POWERBOOST is not much greater in MPG then regular 3.5 Ecoboost. So, seems Toyota the same way.
Looks to be a pretty competitive mill. Only out a year so time will tell, but fairly impressive showing right out of the gate.
The biggest issue is that the F-150 Powerboost hybrid BEATS this Tundra i-Force Max in real world MPG. Most folks deem Toyota to be the king of hybrids, but Ford has been making strides from their hybrid tech from the ho-hum Escape hybrid, Maverick hybrid and of course the F-150 Powerboost.
They are making a RHD version for Australia
"Tundra prototypes will begin testing next month and be evaluated “against Australia's severe local conditions and tough customer use”.
Toyota Australia says that by late 2023 the final stage of the RHD re-engineering program will involve 300 Tundra vehicles testing nationwide in real-world conditions".
Thanks for the no non-sense reviews. You gave us the results of a previous video. Without expecting us to watch the video. Hurray for you. I watch TH-cam on a tv and I am not signed in. My phone has me signed in. Hate having a dead battery from watching videos and talking on the phone. Everybody watches tv and I would have recommendations about stuff I don’t care about. Keep up the good work!!!!
I got 18.3 miles per gallon at 93 mph
My take-a-way is $75,000 for a pick-up truck is NUTS !!! Just sayin'.
So if you want V8 power then Mr. Max lol
The Eco is backwards. It should be fully green when you are driving gently. It should drop and perhaps turn red when you floor it. If you are driving Eco, you should get a full Eco guage.
Gas guzzling taco gets 14/100
You didn't do the second "clip" video..
Want to save gas get a yaris .big trucks waste gas
Great comparison, please do the same thing with the Tacoma‘s when they let you drive them that would be much appreciated !!!
I have a trd pro 2023 I get 19 city
Yeah but u forgot they shrunk it more than last years, its basically a tacundra. Less leg room, ugly trims with all that chrome, u would think mike sweers would get the point by now
Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to make this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
So if you actually use the extra power it has you probably won't get any better mileage than the non-hybrid.
Saving at least 1k per month on a payment keeping my 2014 Tundra Limited. Not worth it to get into a new truck, still loving the one I have.
1. Buy a car with more than 400KM.
2. Drive it gently.
1 + 2 = 3. But it doesn't add up! ;)
What is the model of that Tundra
I have a 2005 Tundra with 4.7 engine, get 24 mpg at 100kmh
I would have liked to see a 0-60 comparison on the two trucks. What exactly does the hybrid get you? More power, yes, but also more weight. Does the extra power overcome all the extra weight? You covered one side of the coin, but please cover the other side.
Hybrid gives you more torque at lower rpm.
5.7 ltr is faster 0-60.
@@michaelcyr3068 no … it isn’t
@Michael Cyr nope the 5.7 is slower.
My 22 GMC Sierra crew 5.3 is getting about 21 mpg doing 71. I’ve got 24 doing 65mpg on a 120 mile drive
5.3 is a dog pos motor
@@adventurefishing3190 time will tell I no more people that never had a problem with engine. They had problems with 8 speed but I have 10speed transmission so time will tell everyone has little issues my 07 gmc had 265,+ and only master brake cylinder went out.
Please don’t tell me about GM 5.3 total trash. Brought a Chevy Silverado 5.3 2021 brand new and within a year the lifters and push rod failed and had to be replaced. I sold it and brought me a 2019 tundra off road. Keep on trucking
What about around town MPG?
That electric motor may help with city driving.
All in town driving... that's a video for another day.
@@TruckKing i would also like to see the benefits of the hybrid in slow, off-road test. I have a 2018 Tundra 4x4 and my economy drops to 6-8 mpg when the going gets slow.
That's what hybrids are for is driving in the city. People keep trying to justify them for highway/towing usage, but in the real world they get worse fuel economy than a V8 or diesel pickup because you are asking that tiny engine/electric motor to do the work of a commercial/industrial engine.
Most people buying trucks today never use them as trucks, they use them for their family sedan and commuter car so once again trying to turn trucks into luxury land yachts.
But this truck is still a POS.
Does the engine turns off during entire Tim Horton drive through as we Canadians spend lots of time there.
I bet the 3.5 turbo is pretty much the same as what Ford engineered. As I recall Toy/Ford are sharing technology. Toy using Ford's eco tech and Ford using Toyota's hybrid tech. Getting 25 MPG's on a full size body on frame is impressive. This is the end of the road one could expect for hybrid design. Only way to improve on that is going full EV or a plug in hybrid design.
EV would be the worst truck choice. Check out TFLtruck channel and see how poorly the Ford Lightning did. Imagine if that truck had to pull a trailer... EV in a truck to work like a gas truck is laughable. Tech for EV needs to greatly improve.
@@JIPlatium I agree. The best they could do would be a plug in hybrid. You still need an ICE motor to charge the batteries. Otherwise I expect your right. Range would be abysmal if you started towing. All the oems think they can switch over to EV but there is many issues that have not been sorted out. One, lithium is not an element that is easy to mine in the qualities "they think" they can do. Plus battery oems like Panasonic have capacity issues. Lastly nobody wants to work together on infrastructure. Once you leave your urban environment charging stations become scarce. None of that has been thought out. Not even remotely so.
I hope it’s not the same with fords cam phaser issues!
You got better than I can get in my 3.6 v6 Acura suv. Lol.
We love you Toyota 😊❤❤👍💯
how high does it go when you tow a trailer? 18l/100km?
is it me or is it to much chrome
In Canada, my 2010 Tundra gets amazingly better fuel mileage if the highway speed is kept at 80 KPH. Anything over that is quite noticeable. Obviously it's boring to go that slow but if you want better fuel numbers, stick the speed limit. I can't wait until my 2022 Hybrid comes in.
80 KPH is only 50 MPH. If I went that speed on a US highway, I would get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic.
@@SuperSnakePlissken my 17 trd 4x4 mirrors these exact numbers here in AZ
@@texasboy2005 LOL That's what I was going to say. Here in Texas the speed limit in many places is 85 mph so you would most likely cause a wreck going that slow.
For me since where I live in Central Texas is extremely flat, I get 15-15.5 city and 17-18.5 highway pretty consistently. That's at 75 on the highway.
Now, I travel quite a bit for my job (25-30k miles a year) and I love to take country roads which usually have a speed limit of 65 mph. When I take those roads I can get 19 mpg to 19.5 all day long. The rpm's hover around 1800 and my TRD Pro just sips the fuel.
Towing is where the Tundra excels. My father-in-law has a 2019 F-150 Ecoboost Fx4 and has a nice camping trailer that he allows us to borrow on a regular basis. With his F-150 he gets around 7.5-8.5 mpg all day long. My Tundra is 10-11 mpg pulling the same trailer with my kids and my dog. When he pulls its just him and my mother-from-hell...sorry mother-in-law. Once those twin turbos start spinning they drink gas.
The trailer weighs around 7,800 lbs fully loaded so my Tundra with everyone and the dog is at almost max towing.
Well he also wasn’t driving on the highway. Those were just regular roads as to what we saw. So your highway efficiency matched his city efficiency which for a 2010 tundra it is still massively impressive. I drive a 2016 tundra but it has some bigger wheels and I can only manage 16 mpg on the highway so the fact that you even get that much is crazy
@@SuperSnakePlissken I appreciate you sharing your experiences towing. I laughed at the mother in law from hell comment! 🤣
If I run my 21 Pro under 70mph i can get almost 20mpg. Hauling my 22 foot boat I got 16.2mpg. I'll stick with the naturally aspirated 5.7 liter. It is way more reliable,sounds 100% better, has tow hooks and hold it's value much better. I'll take the few less mpg's. It's well worth it!
Holds value better? Don’t be silly. Every tundra is worth a mint. The new v-6 has more power, better fuel economy, more boost, much nicer styling. And way more fun to drive.
@@dsdw30 Only 3mpg difference, more power? The 5.7 has a 6.7, 0-60. 7.2 for the 6cyl. And the turbo won't hold the value in my opinion but that remains to be seen. Hope your turbo holds up because some of them are not. And when the warranty runs out, get ready to empty your wallet 😂😂
@@michaelcyr3068 150,000 mile warranty. I will never pay for one. Has 10 more horse. I’ve never seen any tundra get better than 15 mpg. Until this new 2022.
@@dsdw30 Did you buy the 150,000 Mile warranty? Far as I know it's only a 60,000 Mile warranty...
@@michaelcyr3068 it comes with 25,000 mile warranty. Yes I purchased the extended go 150,000
Use normal mode. Eco is for high city traffic.
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To me that exactly why you would get a hybrid, a smaller engine like a 3.5 twin turbo, instead of 6.2 all juiced up to get the numbers of that Toyota....let's be honest, electric cars are not that environment friendly once you add in all it takes to get the battery in vehicle, and when the vehicle is ready for vehicle heaven, it is marginally at best better, and really it's just a side step