I'm not quite sure why you're harping on about it being like the Roma, they're sister ships, in the same class, they would be identical in almost every way with the only differences being what light AA guns they've got and where. Its like looking at the Iowa's and going "Well they all look the same" yes, because they're a class, each ships not an individual :p
Vittorio Veneto had a lot of differences between her and Roma tho, different bow height, 3 anchors instead of 2, no FCS between the funnels, different side FCS and almost completely different bridge. WG just used the same model as ROMA and uncovered some railings thats it.
@@dylanwight5764 No, Roma is the better ship. - Roma has better dispersion (1.8 sigma vs 1.5) - Roma has better concealment by 1km - Roma can use her better concealment in a better synergy with Deadeye, meaning she gains even more on accuracy - One big problem with smoke on BBs is that, as the way smoke works on them, when you fire the detection range grow even beyond the base detection range. At the end of the day, having better concealment is arguably better than smoke. - Roma is less powerful against cruisers because she hasn't SAP, but against all other classes she's almost identical to VV, and, also, it's not like she can't deal with cruisers at all (the trick is to wait when they are angled, then the AP has enough time to detonate)
They gave a ship that could out range an iowa class irl range less than some cruisers.....and her citadel is modelled poorly. And you're surprised they didn't change the bow model.
15:59 afaik SAP with a caliber of 280mm or more did 10% max damage since the cruiser SAP got buffed way back when the IT cruisers were in testing in mid 2019
I thank you for the impression's man it give's me some insight towards what the new ship's are, and what I should do with them... and, one interesting thing about the Vittorio-Veneto, is that bedside's it having accurate secondary's for brawling you can actually make a viable secondary build with accurate fire starter's for secondary's that reload fast, and can shoot from 10.0 klm away... and combine that with the crawling smoke, it becomes a real "MEME".
Interesting naming... there is some ambiguity between naming the class Littorio or Vittorio Veneto, as both ships were laid at the same time, but Littorio is maybe the more famous one... but maybe "Littorio" (lictor) was too much tied to the whole fascist symbolic that Italians poured into the naming at that time...
@@ryanli5803 True but its nice at least knowing those willing to play it will (probably) accept getting smashed into oblivion for misplays instead of whining Though if it is max range (unspotted) slava the rage is perfectly understandable
Was def. disappointed tonight after just the first two matches in the new Tier IV Italian early access BB. Granted, so far I've only experienced the Tier IV as that's all that I've unlocked so far, so I can only hope that this BB line improves in the higher tiers in regards to their ability to deal decent damage against DDs specifically. I was expecting to slap the very first enemy DD I shot at with my SAP just like you can in Italian cruisers currently, buuuuuut no, my jaw hit the floor when I landed multiple full pens on the DD at close range but literally only dealt 750 damage per shell.... Figured ahhhh, that must have been a fluke but no when I followed those up with the next salvo, it was the same result with each full penetration only netting me 750 damage per shell maximum.... We're talking about 13"-14" diameter heavy a** battleship shells tearing through a small little DD, but only scratching it for 750 damage each max? I realize this is not a historically accurate real life naval warfare ship simulator and therefore not everything will be 100% realistic by any means. However, something is simply not right if I can hop into a petty Tier III Katori, which is a whole tier lower with small little 5.5" guns, and deal upwards of 2-3k damage to that same DD with a single HE salvo of only 4 shells while 2 or 3 full pens with BB sized shells which are well over twice the size and weight of Katori's 5.5" shells only nets you 1,500-2,250 damage max.... It's just one or two steps too far beyond the line of believability when 5.5" HE shells are basically dealing nearly twice the damage against DDs than a friggin 14" battleship shell.
I take fighter because you know cvs continues to get dropped by cv never uses consumable just take the spotter plane you can always use range and ability to see over islands and the fighters are pretty much shit anyway
Yeah you get 4 planes and it doesn't even has to be from the fighter attack they count plane kills from your aa while they are up and if they engage or not if 4 or more planes die they vanish plus cvs have plenty more attack planes and they regen so yes they are useless more of a mild annoyance to cvs if anything spotting planes can be useful in every game what good is a fighter in a non cv game
@@edwardmonken4562 yes... Your right we are all going to die dont bother even logging in. Its not like like ships run out of ammo or anything. Never mind. CV evil got it
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The Italians did make some good looking ships..
Then again, they are Italians. I also love the Russian designs.
@@Thor_Asgard_ Well some of the Soviet designs were made by Italians.
I agree
Ah SAP.
The ammo specifically made to combat low armor completely made pointless by WG.
BB sap can slap smolensk , worcester , mino and the upcomming Austin tho , no overpen deal raw alpha damage and a chance to citadel(?) them
@@faynk.6247 Can SAP even citadel though?
@@thepaperbagmask yes bud it can
@@thepaperbagmask it pens 96mm so yeah, depends on the cruisers armor layout
@@thepaperbagmask I have had it citadel some cruisers before, never battleships ofc
And of course, its main weakness is the fact it is tier 8.
Vittorio Veneto Big sister the Paolo Emlio?¿
Pizza Time moment...
I'm not quite sure why you're harping on about it being like the Roma, they're sister ships, in the same class, they would be identical in almost every way with the only differences being what light AA guns they've got and where. Its like looking at the Iowa's and going "Well they all look the same" yes, because they're a class, each ships not an individual :p
Vittorio Veneto had a lot of differences between her and Roma tho, different bow height, 3 anchors instead of 2, no FCS between the funnels, different side FCS and almost completely different bridge.
WG just used the same model as ROMA and uncovered some railings thats it.
Let me save you 17mins
Roma with sap and smoke
Thank you
So a strictly better Roma in this meta then?
@@dylanwight5764 Basically. But Roma will still be a great credit earner and captain trainer
Lolol
I have always liked Roma.
@@dylanwight5764 No, Roma is the better ship.
- Roma has better dispersion (1.8 sigma vs 1.5)
- Roma has better concealment by 1km
- Roma can use her better concealment in a better synergy with Deadeye, meaning she gains even more on accuracy
- One big problem with smoke on BBs is that, as the way smoke works on them, when you fire the detection range grow even beyond the base detection range. At the end of the day, having better concealment is arguably better than smoke.
- Roma is less powerful against cruisers because she hasn't SAP, but against all other classes she's almost identical to VV, and, also, it's not like she can't deal with cruisers at all (the trick is to wait when they are angled, then the AP has enough time to detonate)
I think that the real v. Veneto bow design was different than the Roma one
the roma had a re-designed bow to allow more speed
damn they didnt bother to change the model did they? there are some major diffrences between the littorio sisters
They gave a ship that could out range an iowa class irl range less than some cruisers.....and her citadel is modelled poorly. And you're surprised they didn't change the bow model.
3:28 AP and HE?
15:59 afaik SAP with a caliber of 280mm or more did 10% max damage since the cruiser SAP got buffed way back when the IT cruisers were in testing in mid 2019
Does Vittorio also has the crazy pen values of Romas AP? I hope so.
Vittorio Veneto is not a complete copy of Roma/Littorio. There are some differences in the superstructures.
Roma is good, this seems to be almost as good, with slight nerfs to dpm and concealment, but smoke alliwing to disengage from push to kite
Or push get guns around and find that broadside and go boom
I thank you for the impression's man it give's me some insight towards what the new ship's are, and what I should do with them... and, one interesting thing about the Vittorio-Veneto, is that bedside's it having accurate secondary's for brawling you can actually make a viable secondary build with accurate fire starter's for secondary's that reload fast, and can shoot from 10.0 klm away... and combine that with the crawling smoke, it becomes a real "MEME".
Thank you so much for your video, it was very useful!
Interesting naming... there is some ambiguity between naming the class Littorio or Vittorio Veneto, as both ships were laid at the same time, but Littorio is maybe the more famous one... but maybe "Littorio" (lictor) was too much tied to the whole fascist symbolic that Italians poured into the naming at that time...
I got the Andrea Doria today and I think it's awful, the dispersion is so bad I think the shells could miss the water. On Ocean map.
I got the Doria and did fucking fantastic in her, I've been enjoying her quite a bit. You sure you're playing her right?
7:07, 3.6 roentgens “not great not terrible “
Kinda curious why you select fighter over spotter when the range isn’t great but at the same time you don’t launch the fighters
i chose fighter instead, the range is useless with shotguns
I managed to citadel the Lepanto from 15km+ with my FDG which says a lot about how easy it was to punish ....
you say that like being able to punish misplays is bad......
@@Empoleonman522the2 it's a good thing for the game but a bad thing for the ship :v especially since lots of other BBs are much harder to punish.
@@ryanli5803 True but its nice at least knowing those willing to play it will (probably) accept getting smashed into oblivion for misplays instead of whining
Though if it is max range (unspotted) slava the rage is perfectly understandable
At that distance the bullet plunge is enough to negate the 25mm turtleback
Was def. disappointed tonight after just the first two matches in the new Tier IV Italian early access BB. Granted, so far I've only experienced the Tier IV as that's all that I've unlocked so far, so I can only hope that this BB line improves in the higher tiers in regards to their ability to deal decent damage against DDs specifically. I was expecting to slap the very first enemy DD I shot at with my SAP just like you can in Italian cruisers currently, buuuuuut no, my jaw hit the floor when I landed multiple full pens on the DD at close range but literally only dealt 750 damage per shell.... Figured ahhhh, that must have been a fluke but no when I followed those up with the next salvo, it was the same result with each full penetration only netting me 750 damage per shell maximum.... We're talking about 13"-14" diameter heavy a** battleship shells tearing through a small little DD, but only scratching it for 750 damage each max? I realize this is not a historically accurate real life naval warfare ship simulator and therefore not everything will be 100% realistic by any means. However, something is simply not right if I can hop into a petty Tier III Katori, which is a whole tier lower with small little 5.5" guns, and deal upwards of 2-3k damage to that same DD with a single HE salvo of only 4 shells while 2 or 3 full pens with BB sized shells which are well over twice the size and weight of Katori's 5.5" shells only nets you 1,500-2,250 damage max.... It's just one or two steps too far beyond the line of believability when 5.5" HE shells are basically dealing nearly twice the damage against DDs than a friggin 14" battleship shell.
Does anyone have any idea why there is no tier 3-battleship for the Italians? Every other nation with battleships has one...
not sure i'd use deadeye with that short of a gun range vs. detectability range
Isn't that they have Impero also in testing?
Impero was simply to test the idea of SAP and smoke on a BB. It later became the AL Littorio.
But why are you shooting AP 🙄🤔
I can overmatch the KGV’s bow armor
Italian battleships look like a mix between german and soviet BBs.
@SEBASTIAN CORSINI Also the Sovetsky Soyuz if you inspect the hull.
I challange you to play Viribus Unitis tonight during stream!
Top Tier has a vid with the T8 with 300+sec hits.
Dont know the damage. If its Roma sec did not do much but dam it looks cool.
Vacuum cleaner time
I take fighter because you know cvs continues to get dropped by cv never uses consumable just take the spotter plane you can always use range and ability to see over islands and the fighters are pretty much shit anyway
Fighters are not garbage.
Yes, the CV will get 1 drop but with a fighter they will not get another drop.
So yes the fighters really work
Yeah you get 4 planes and it doesn't even has to be from the fighter attack they count plane kills from your aa while they are up and if they engage or not if 4 or more planes die they vanish plus cvs have plenty more attack planes and they regen so yes they are useless more of a mild annoyance to cvs if anything spotting planes can be useful in every game what good is a fighter in a non cv game
@@edwardmonken4562 yes... Your right we are all going to die dont bother even logging in.
Its not like like ships run out of ammo or anything.
Never mind. CV evil got it
you shouldve go for sap if u kiting like that imo
I hate have range disadvantage. Hated the Monarch for that.
AL Littorio
Vittorio Venito
Roma
All 3 ships of the Littorrio class of battleship in game.
Vittorio Veneto*
@@jesse8381 my bad
You're not good at remembering, to chose focus side, for the AA.
Hey you forget Littorio 😂😂
Yeah i stopped playing this event and stopped playing at all, have the roma but the team have been horrible so far
I’m sick of rank with all those FDR the FDR is beyond broken
Looks great, built like a tank, pretty fast, couldn't hit shit with a shit slinger and would take you all week to do it,.....verdict,.......sold.
Sea Lord Mountbatten - Praises SAP, never uses it. Takes fighter cos AA is bad, never uses it XD
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Definitely not a "solid" ship. Likely one of the worst ships (and it's T7 tech tree little brother) tier for tier in the game.
After several years of playing...Today I have uninstalled the game. They keep piling garbage on this dumpster fire. People that keep playing this game are like an abused wife...hoping that tomorrow they wont get slapped across the face which happens every day... yet they wont leave.
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I know you have worked hard for this achievement, so you should be proud of yourself. You have proved that hard work really pays off. I am certainly thrilled at what you’ve accomplished and looking forward to seeing you tackle even bigger things in your future.